Not a defense, but some clarification: In Austria and Germany, hunting is weird and a lot different from hunting in the USA and Canada. It is more like owning your own aircraft. Getting a hunting license is expensive and requires a lot of studying and passing a examination, very much so like getting a pilot license. Being a hunter in the German speaking world is a real commitment. You spend amounts of money only someone well off, at least upper middle class, can afford and then the places you can hunt at are super limited. You can't just pack your gun, a cheap one season hunting license and then just head into some forest and shoot something. You need a contract with a farmer to be allowed to hunt on his land. So even if you have the money and get that license that cost you as much as a pilots license, you still might be out of luck because you have nowhere to hunt. Another thing it has in common with being a private plane pilot. You need a place to put that plane. So that hand full of guys who get to actually do it, are very determined, older rich dudes who drive around in 150.000 Dollar G-Wagons with 5000 to 10.000 Dollar hunting rifles, usually. That is why a Austrian rifle manufacturer thinks they are being cheap and democratic when selling a 1200 Dollar rifle. It is like a private plane manufacturer selling a "cheap" 100.000 Dollar plane "for the masses".
@@DarkhalfBreed There really aren't any blue collar hunters in Germany/Austria, as far as I can tell. It really is a past time for rich people and older rich people at that. One of my German uncles was a hunter, but he had a stroke and had to give it up. I never really talked to him about it, but he wasn't a big gun nut anyways. He was in it for the tradition and the culture that surrounds hunting, sitting in a lodge with his rich hunter buddies, drinking grog or Irish coffee and talking politics. The guns were just a tool to him, like a shovel to a hobbyist gardener and I doubt he would be interested in talking guns or gun culture. Hunter culture in Germany is kind of elitist and for some of them the actual hunting is almost an afterthought. It is a lot like Golf in the USA, or Fox Hunting in the UK. It is more about networking and wearing the right clothes, breeding the right dogs and shit like that. Hunting lodges are kind of like those elite men's clubs where old, rich dudes smoke Cuban cigars and talk about their last African Safari and so on. They spend small fortunes on fancy, engraved rifles, but those are status symbols and you buy them to impress your peers, not really because they would shoot better or because you are a real gun nut, or anything like that.
@@joquin4618 Depressing indeed. I haven't even mentioned the worst thing about it yet, because it wasn't relevant in the context of Steyr selling expensive rifles. Even if the license weren't so expensive, I doubt that many people would chose hunting as a hobby in the German speaking world. I mentioned that you need a contract with a land owner to hunt. That contract isn't just about allowing you to hunt, you have to take stewardship and responsibility for that land to some extend. You can be made liable to some extend for damage caused by wildlife. If a hoard of wild pigs for example ruins crops on a field, the farmer can hold you as the designated hunter for that piece of land responsible. One of the reasons for why hunting is a rich people sport in Germany and Austria (and Switzerland too, as far as I know), is that it is kind of like a unpaid part time job and a financial liability on top of that. You need very good, very expensive insurance, not just because you could accidentally shoot someone, but also to cover you in case you get sued for not killing enough pigs or deer. I'm not sure, but I even heard that a local government can fine a hunter if too many cars run into deer on the land he is responsible for. So it is basically like being a unpaid park ranger, with the looming thread of law suits over your head. That is what I meant when I said it is only for really determined people. You need to really love hunting to put up with all that crap and you better have enough free time and the money to afford that insurance. You'll have to go out there and shoot surplus vermint even if you don't feel like it that day, if you don't want to get sued or lose your hunting rights for that piece of land. Of course the rules for what to do with the animals you shot are very strict too. That makes it so hard to keep on top of a rapidly reproducing pig population. You can't just mow them down when they get out of control, like they do in Texas and other places. You can only shoot what you can pull out of the forest and process, which makes population control a slow, steady and tedious affair.
Florian is the man. Before they shipped to the us he helped me order and shipped it anyway. Fantastic products and customer service. If you’re on the fence just buy their products
I have a Steyr Scout rifle in .308 I carry around on our family tree farm to eliminate the occasional wild hog or coyote we see wandering around (we're surrounded by cattle ranchers that love us). Bought it on a lark after returning from overseas, but damn if it's not a smooth-shooting, accurate-as-hell-when-I-do-my-part, easily-carried rifle when going through the heavy tree plots and hacking away at the thick underbrush. The action on it is still smooth as silk and the trigger break is like a glass rod even after firing several hundred rounds through it. Don't think of a Steyr bolt-action as an expensive rifle, think of it as an investment in a quality firearm that will outlast you.
Yeah but nearly any worthwhile modern rifle will outlast even my grandkids as long as they don't mistreat it, it's hard to justify their pricing, you can get a good 1000yd capable rifle for about $1000 and then spend maybe another $700-$1000 on glass and you're set.
@@frankdamsy9715 I mean that doesn't make much sense either since on average Americans have more spending money. Or are you just talking import laws and costs?
All those upgrades to the base Aug and it still falls short of being more feature rich of the true Aug successor, the Atrax. I weep knowing the Atrax was pulled from its planned commercial production release.
Very disappointing. The Corvus Defensio products are nothing new, they've been available for purchase on Steyr's website for more then a year. Meanwhile the various modular parts that the AUG has been famous for since the 80's, like the 24 inch heavy barrel and the 9mm conversion kit are still unavailable. Not to mention the 300 blackout conversion that they've been teasing since 2017 isn't even mentioned here.
At the very least they'd have to start making barrels here. As it is now the AUG barrel is from FN I think, the receiver is made by Vltor. They used to import the 9mm conversion but ATF smacked them for it.
@@mr.mercury4247 it doesn't make it any less stupid tho, like I can understand having a takedown model with a can on it for backpacking and hunting, but going beyond that in a .22 is just burning cash.
What an excellent, polite and professional presentation by the austrian Steyr guy in the green polo. Excellent gun, GREAT presentation, GREAT company. :)
We are all still eagerly waiting for that. They still haven‘t got it be drop safe I believe. The safety locks the trigger, but the sear can still drop due to it‘s own inertia. Probably why the standard AUG has a stupidly heavy trigger spring that prevents that from happening.
You know who else has a military contract, but manages to sell you a complete bull pup rifle, and does give a fuck about its customers? IWI, and they make the Tavor.
That would imply that steyr knows anything about marketing....cause why would they listen to any feedback when they get those sweet sweet military contracts all i know is if they keep that idea of relying heavily on contracts like that they'll end up like colt.
For 1100 dollars you can get long range rifle and even a decent scope. And they promoting. 22 for the same amount money? I dont think this is going to be sell well in the US.
I'm going to buy the case deflector and mag release but I won't be happy about it given those are two things that should've been incorporated into the factory guns decades ago.
@@weasle2904 They keep updating the M9 pistol and keep trying to ramrod that stupid sight system that NOBODY likes and NOBODY wants. The reps were like, "Look, we've improved it. Now it's easier to buy aftermarket sights for it!"
Steyr makes great stuff but they need to get their shit together. NO parts availability, NO marketing, damn get with some Americans and see how its done.
I mean savage has always had kinda boutique prices on their bolt guns. I'd buy one if I got some money together and could stop buying other stuff for 3.5 seconds.
@@mr.mercury4247 Yeah everyone has their flavor ... I just follow what is used on a professional level ... That to me is how I justify boutique prices ... I wouldn't buy anything Steyr other then the AUG or M2/A2 pistol ... everything else is somewhat unproven in work and price .
@@mr.mercury4247 I remember them back in 03 big hype but no bite ... I couldnt see it being proved in the military , but at least in law enforcment ... even the FN PBR's went flat... but i dont believe in its price tag because i dont put blind faith into manufactures ... The price point the Scout is at ... it should come with an optic... its about $1000 overpriced
Love the corvus, I have the qd pin and case deflector, would be great to see some way to cover up ingress points and also add the bolt release to the nato stock, probably asking too much but i would definitely add those to my aug
@@bmstylee For anybody with a brain lol, you can buy an equivalently functioned rifle with equivalent quality for nearly half as much. Why would I buy this?
I wanted the Lithgow Atrax F90... or whatever it's called. But no. They were totally cool selling to civilians, until some guy did something, as if that was suppose to be impossible. Some gun companies honestly shouldn't be in business.
Just get a carbine length AR15 with a riser and red dot mount and run it fully collapsed. The difference in length between that and an Aug, or Aug Clone is about 4"(10cm).
@@ramdom_assortment I've still got bullpup and other options, but that's not the point. The point is the AUG doesn't interest me, but the F90 kinda did.
Sorry but for a bullpup that is already obsolete thanks to the Tavor and X95, these upgrades should already come standard on this rifle as they do with the aforementioned rifles.
Wild Bill It’s because of the mosque shooting in New Zealand. After that either Thales or Lithgow said they won’t export it to US on “ethical reasons”.
@@Ace0486 you gotta understand it from their perspective thou. Lithgow Arms is continually attacked by anti-gunners both in government and in the civ world. Ever since they announced the Atrax they have been copping shit. And the Australian government is there biggest customer. They aren't cozy in America where freedom to bear arms is a right. It's very different down under. So when the mosque shooting happened in NZ who are considered our brothers, Lithgow arms started making headlines again about selling these 'deadly weapons' to the US. New Anti-gun laws were in the talks as soon as it happened. Note too that Lithgow arms are a donater to the Australian Gov, anti-gunners know it and they see Lithgow arms and the Gov as buddy buddy. While I do agree Lithgow should have held its ground, and I have no doubt they wanted to but there's just so much going against them (wouldn't be surprised if the Australian government told them no). Anyway, they didn't say it was to be the case forever.
Congrats, you made the Aug ugly. I wanted an Aug, then I realized I could run a carbine length AR15 with the stock fully collapsed, with a raiser and red dot and the length difference is about 4"(10cm). Plus the AR platform is more reliable and waaaay cheaper. Bullpups just aren't as reliable as conventional rifles.
Steyr pistols a good price point! I could get a Savage and save a ton of my money. I don't think this is a great value. And the hair is bad on this guy. Bad! Pick one color!
When are the new M9 pistols coming out???? U guys came out with the L9 A2 last year but when are u coming out with the new M9 version which is the midsize as u promised?? Please respond?? Tnx
asking aug accessorizes prices? that's the tfb guys job but if u have to ask.... u need some gym man up time . worse yet the total wuss guy who says "i hope my wife will let me get them."
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Not a defense, but some clarification: In Austria and Germany, hunting is weird and a lot different from hunting in the USA and Canada. It is more like owning your own aircraft. Getting a hunting license is expensive and requires a lot of studying and passing a examination, very much so like getting a pilot license. Being a hunter in the German speaking world is a real commitment. You spend amounts of money only someone well off, at least upper middle class, can afford and then the places you can hunt at are super limited. You can't just pack your gun, a cheap one season hunting license and then just head into some forest and shoot something. You need a contract with a farmer to be allowed to hunt on his land.
So even if you have the money and get that license that cost you as much as a pilots license, you still might be out of luck because you have nowhere to hunt. Another thing it has in common with being a private plane pilot. You need a place to put that plane.
So that hand full of guys who get to actually do it, are very determined, older rich dudes who drive around in 150.000 Dollar G-Wagons with 5000 to 10.000 Dollar hunting rifles, usually.
That is why a Austrian rifle manufacturer thinks they are being cheap and democratic when selling a 1200 Dollar rifle.
It is like a private plane manufacturer selling a "cheap" 100.000 Dollar plane "for the masses".
Thanks for clearing that up.
That is actually pretty interesting. I would love to see a blue collar German/Austrian hunter's take on rifle prices in the US after reading this.
@@DarkhalfBreed There really aren't any blue collar hunters in Germany/Austria, as far as I can tell. It really is a past time for rich people and older rich people at that.
One of my German uncles was a hunter, but he had a stroke and had to give it up. I never really talked to him about it, but he wasn't a big gun nut anyways. He was in it for the tradition and the culture that surrounds hunting, sitting in a lodge with his rich hunter buddies, drinking grog or Irish coffee and talking politics.
The guns were just a tool to him, like a shovel to a hobbyist gardener and I doubt he would be interested in talking guns or gun culture.
Hunter culture in Germany is kind of elitist and for some of them the actual hunting is almost an afterthought. It is a lot like Golf in the USA, or Fox Hunting in the UK. It is more about networking and wearing the right clothes, breeding the right dogs and shit like that.
Hunting lodges are kind of like those elite men's clubs where old, rich dudes smoke Cuban cigars and talk about their last African Safari and so on.
They spend small fortunes on fancy, engraved rifles, but those are status symbols and you buy them to impress your peers, not really because they would shoot better or because you are a real gun nut, or anything like that.
That’s depressing. Thanks for the clarification. Peace
@@joquin4618 Depressing indeed.
I haven't even mentioned the worst thing about it yet, because it wasn't relevant in the context of Steyr selling expensive rifles.
Even if the license weren't so expensive, I doubt that many people would chose hunting as a hobby in the German speaking world.
I mentioned that you need a contract with a land owner to hunt. That contract isn't just about allowing you to hunt, you have to take stewardship and responsibility for that land to some extend. You can be made liable to some extend for damage caused by wildlife.
If a hoard of wild pigs for example ruins crops on a field, the farmer can hold you as the designated hunter for that piece of land responsible.
One of the reasons for why hunting is a rich people sport in Germany and Austria (and Switzerland too, as far as I know), is that it is kind of like a unpaid part time job and a financial liability on top of that.
You need very good, very expensive insurance, not just because you could accidentally shoot someone, but also to cover you in case you get sued for not killing enough pigs or deer. I'm not sure, but I even heard that a local government can fine a hunter if too many cars run into deer on the land he is responsible for.
So it is basically like being a unpaid park ranger, with the looming thread of law suits over your head.
That is what I meant when I said it is only for really determined people. You need to really love hunting to put up with all that crap and you better have enough free time and the money to afford that insurance. You'll have to go out there and shoot surplus vermint even if you don't feel like it that day, if you don't want to get sued or lose your hunting rights for that piece of land.
Of course the rules for what to do with the animals you shot are very strict too. That makes it so hard to keep on top of a rapidly reproducing pig population. You can't just mow them down when they get out of control, like they do in Texas and other places. You can only shoot what you can pull out of the forest and process, which makes population control a slow, steady and tedious affair.
The Steyr bolty is the same price as the Aug.
#steyr why are you not pushing your A2 pistols more? Do you even have a marketing department? Are there even professional reviews for it?
Florian is the man. Before they shipped to the us he helped me order and shipped it anyway. Fantastic products and customer service. If you’re on the fence just buy their products
I have a Steyr Scout rifle in .308 I carry around on our family tree farm to eliminate the occasional wild hog or coyote we see wandering around (we're surrounded by cattle ranchers that love us).
Bought it on a lark after returning from overseas, but damn if it's not a smooth-shooting, accurate-as-hell-when-I-do-my-part, easily-carried rifle when going through the heavy tree plots and hacking away at the thick underbrush. The action on it is still smooth as silk and the trigger break is like a glass rod even after firing several hundred rounds through it.
Don't think of a Steyr bolt-action as an expensive rifle, think of it as an investment in a quality firearm that will outlast you.
Yeah but nearly any worthwhile modern rifle will outlast even my grandkids as long as they don't mistreat it, it's hard to justify their pricing, you can get a good 1000yd capable rifle for about $1000 and then spend maybe another $700-$1000 on glass and you're set.
Wait, did I hear that right? The 1200 dollar hunting rifle is made to be the blue-collar gun?
To answer your question, Europe.
Yeah, real blue collar pricing.
Also, a small price difference is defined as nearly $300 for the Mannlicher stock on the Zephyr...
He must be color blind.
Lmao imagine thinking a steyr can compete with sub 300 dollar Savage plastic garbage rods.
@@frankdamsy9715 I mean that doesn't make much sense either since on average Americans have more spending money. Or are you just talking import laws and costs?
I just realized that this was posted on my birthday and the AUG is my favorite platform
All of these AUG upgrades are about a decade behind the curve
All those upgrades to the base Aug and it still falls short of being more feature rich of the true Aug successor, the Atrax. I weep knowing the Atrax was pulled from its planned commercial production release.
Thank the liberal ass Australian gov.
idiots at lithgow - thanks morons for cancelling the atrax
@Josh Jones kid diddling mormons? 😂😂😂
Steyr is top notch. Trust your life reliable. Accurate as hell
Very disappointing. The Corvus Defensio products are nothing new, they've been available for purchase on Steyr's website for more then a year. Meanwhile the various modular parts that the AUG has been famous for since the 80's, like the 24 inch heavy barrel and the 9mm conversion kit are still unavailable. Not to mention the 300 blackout conversion that they've been teasing since 2017 isn't even mentioned here.
At the very least they'd have to start making barrels here. As it is now the AUG barrel is from FN I think, the receiver is made by Vltor. They used to import the 9mm conversion but ATF smacked them for it.
$1100 for a .22...
*bwahahahaha
You should see how much money people spend on Gucci 10/22s....
@@mr.mercury4247 you should see the new bergara 22 lol
@@mr.mercury4247 it doesn't make it any less stupid tho, like I can understand having a takedown model with a can on it for backpacking and hunting, but going beyond that in a .22 is just burning cash.
@@Kross8761 yes expensive .22's are cash dumpsters but people still build them.
This comment didn't age well.
What an excellent, polite and professional presentation by the austrian Steyr guy in the green polo. Excellent gun, GREAT presentation, GREAT company. :)
Are they ever going to drop that trigger pack for the AUG? That's what I really want.
Merohill the 2020 sear is out? If that what you’re referring to
We are all still eagerly waiting for that. They still haven‘t got it be drop safe I believe.
The safety locks the trigger, but the sear can still drop due to it‘s own inertia.
Probably why the standard AUG has a stupidly heavy trigger spring that prevents that from happening.
Listen, the Steyr Aug is about $2000.... most of these “upgrades” should be standard on this gun.
They have military contracts they don't give a fuck about you.
You know who else has a military contract, but manages to sell you a complete bull pup rifle, and does give a fuck about its customers? IWI, and they make the Tavor.
@@Julius314159 Israel? Caring about others? LOL
That would imply that steyr knows anything about marketing....cause why would they listen to any feedback when they get those sweet sweet military contracts all i know is if they keep that idea of relying heavily on contracts like that they'll end up like colt.
Where do you get the new front grip that mounts to the rail?
For 1100 dollars you can get long range rifle and even a decent scope. And they promoting. 22 for the same amount money? I dont think this is going to be sell well in the US.
I like how rather than update the AUG, they just let others do it for them and basically force AUG owners to spend extra to modernize their rifles
You should see Australia's ef88 and specifically the Lithgow new MBR. It really brings Steyr to shame
@@lachlanmoore9619 Oh believe me, I know about them. Shame those aren't coming here anytime soon if ever.
@@fpsftw Although I probs wont ever get to own one of them at least I got to use them professionally
I'm going to buy the case deflector and mag release but I won't be happy about it given those are two things that should've been incorporated into the factory guns decades ago.
Come one, release the Augs in different calibers already such as 308,300 Black Out, or 6.5
Yeah, micro actions like .300blk, 6.5 Grendel, .350 Legend, 5.45, 7.62x39 etc.. should just be a barrel, mag, and bolt swap.
No. 6.5 owners go back to your holes.
Keymod... REAaaaaaaallly? Really? Steyr didn't get the memo?
I used to really like Steyr, but they seem like they don't know what they're doing anymore
@@weasle2904 They keep updating the M9 pistol and keep trying to ramrod that stupid sight system that NOBODY likes and NOBODY wants. The reps were like, "Look, we've improved it. Now it's easier to buy aftermarket sights for it!"
Did they fix the trigger and make it less mushy?
Wish i had the pocket book for "blue collar" guns
I have some of Corvus Defensio products on my Aug, gtg.
1100$ for a .22 rifle come on...
What about trigger?
Go ahead and try to order from Corvus. Let me know how it goes.
Warum sind die Preise in Österreich so hoch für die Teile! Echt schade! Der im Video genannte Preis stimmt gar nicht! Echt traurig
Steyr makes great stuff but they need to get their shit together. NO parts availability, NO marketing, damn get with some Americans and see how its done.
How do I buy this stuff?
Eigh! As usual, my favorite Austrian gun maker doesn't do marketing for anything.
PLEASE DO BETTER NEXT TIME STEYR!
Nothing on their new A2 pistols?
Ma fav gun... aug a3 is love 😍❤
2:04 Is that $1100 before the $600 mail-in rebate .... or is this an "Okay Boomer" moment.
I mean savage has always had kinda boutique prices on their bolt guns. I'd buy one if I got some money together and could stop buying other stuff for 3.5 seconds.
@@mr.mercury4247 Yeah everyone has their flavor ... I just follow what is used on a professional level ... That to me is how I justify boutique prices ... I wouldn't buy anything Steyr other then the AUG or M2/A2 pistol ... everything else is somewhat unproven in work and price .
@@cmarz6564 styer scout rifle are very well proven, they've been around for years you just don't hear about them because they are so expensive.
@@mr.mercury4247 I remember them back in 03 big hype but no bite ... I couldnt see it being proved in the military , but at least in law enforcment ... even the FN PBR's went flat... but i dont believe in its price tag because i dont put blind faith into manufactures ... The price point the Scout is at ... it should come with an optic... its about $1000 overpriced
@@mr.mercury4247 yeah but for less money you can get more power and good glass for the same weight, Steyr is just overpriced.
Love the corvus, I have the qd pin and case deflector, would be great to see some way to cover up ingress points and also add the bolt release to the nato stock, probably asking too much but i would definitely add those to my aug
I WANNA SEE" SMSRT GLASED AND SMART WATCH" FOR THE GUNNER AND MORE TECHNOLOGY IN GUNLOVER.
1200 dollar hunting rifle is made to be the everyman gun?
*nope*
is 1200 too much ?
.....um....yes?
@@curly_ for the poors yes.
Lmao you can buy a ruger american with a good scope for like 600$
@@bmstylee For anybody with a brain lol, you can buy an equivalently functioned rifle with equivalent quality for nearly half as much. Why would I buy this?
Wow zoom out! Cant see Aug.... guy cant hold gun still for 2 seconds
Leave the Aug alone, just making it look weird....
To bad you can’t find any of this stuff.
Awesome , an i love the 7mm08 round !!!!!!!!!!!
I like them Tikka T3x TACT A1, save money and swap barrel for match barrel in 22 inch
So ... innovative
I wanted the Lithgow Atrax F90... or whatever it's called. But no. They were totally cool selling to civilians, until some guy did something, as if that was suppose to be impossible. Some gun companies honestly shouldn't be in business.
Just get a carbine length AR15 with a riser and red dot mount and run it fully collapsed. The difference in length between that and an Aug, or Aug Clone is about 4"(10cm).
@@ramdom_assortment I've still got bullpup and other options, but that's not the point. The point is the AUG doesn't interest me, but the F90 kinda did.
Greetz from lil´Luxembourg🇱🇺
bring back HBAR with bipod pls
Charging handle: “Sorry, this product is not available in your country” wtf?
Ooh I hope someone on Aiexpress makes a cheapo knockoff of that under barrel double sided rail for us airsofters :)
AUG still my dream firearms, but in my cuntries firearms is an ilegal do😥
I need, the Scout.
Though expensive, I love the case deflector and extended mag release on my AUG. But damn is that keymod ugly and unnecessary
the 40s called they want their over priced butter knives back also 1985 wants its over priced bullpup to
So the prices on all the AUG attachments were lies 😂
Sorry but for a bullpup that is already obsolete thanks to the Tavor and X95, these upgrades should already come standard on this rifle as they do with the aforementioned rifles.
I'm sorry but the tavor is an inferior copy of the aug in every way. Nobody in their right mind chooses a tavor over an aug. lol
1100 for a .22 and 1200 for a hunting rifle? wtf is steyr smoking?
Damn dude this is the worst salesman ever. Sure he's a great dude. Carry on
So, $85 for a piece of plastic that is not doing anything other that reflecting brass? That sounds ridiculous.
$1400 .22 LR..........nope
Sad we won’t get the lithgow f90 because of some political bull crap
Blame Bush #1 for that.
Wild Bill It’s because of the mosque shooting in New Zealand. After that either Thales or Lithgow said they won’t export it to US on “ethical reasons”.
@@Ace0486 you gotta understand it from their perspective thou. Lithgow Arms is continually attacked by anti-gunners both in government and in the civ world. Ever since they announced the Atrax they have been copping shit. And the Australian government is there biggest customer. They aren't cozy in America where freedom to bear arms is a right. It's very different down under. So when the mosque shooting happened in NZ who are considered our brothers, Lithgow arms started making headlines again about selling these 'deadly weapons' to the US. New Anti-gun laws were in the talks as soon as it happened. Note too that Lithgow arms are a donater to the Australian Gov, anti-gunners know it and they see Lithgow arms and the Gov as buddy buddy. While I do agree Lithgow should have held its ground, and I have no doubt they wanted to but there's just so much going against them (wouldn't be surprised if the Australian government told them no).
Anyway, they didn't say it was to be the case forever.
@KillgoreES sure. I wasn't making that point but I agree with you
$1200 for ultra basic bolt rifle?.... Ok Boomer.
Ok Jew, count your shekels
Now I have an upgraded machine gun. HO HO HO
Fine rifles, TERRIBLE SALES MAN on the hunting rifles - "Uh...Umm.......Uh....."
Congrats, you made the Aug ugly. I wanted an Aug, then I realized I could run a carbine length AR15 with the stock fully collapsed, with a raiser and red dot and the length difference is about 4"(10cm). Plus the AR platform is more reliable and waaaay cheaper. Bullpups just aren't as reliable as conventional rifles.
Lmao "entry level" with that msrp? Trash.
Steyr pistols a good price point! I could get a Savage and save a ton of my money. I don't think this is a great value. And the hair is bad on this guy. Bad! Pick one color!
When are the new M9 pistols coming out???? U guys came out with the L9 A2 last year but when are u coming out with the new M9 version which is the midsize as u promised?? Please respond?? Tnx
asking aug accessorizes prices? that's the tfb guys job but if u have to ask.... u need some gym man up time . worse yet the total wuss guy who says "i hope my wife will let me get them."