OSU Insider: Is The NCAA Moving To Destroy Michigan Football??
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Michigan fans aren't stupid, they are just incredibly arrogant. I don't know of another fan base that is so arrogant as they. Their arrogance does not allow them to see all the evidence or even consider that it matters.
Agree
It’s funny too because in the context of discussions about UMich and MSU, Umich fans run their mouths AS IF UMich is and has always been on OSU and Georgia’s level (despite the fact that the only time the program broke through in the past quarter century was concurrent with the most laughable and brazen cheating scandal in contemporary college sports) and MSU is just this punny speck who will never be on UMich’s level because of the recruiting gap (even though Mel f-ing Tucker (!!) managed a winning record against UMich and godking Harbaugh, and Dantonio largely dominated that program and lead the effort in keeping that TCUN in the dumps year after year after year), but when talking about UMich vs OSU, all of a sudden they describe UMich AS IF they are MSU: a modest program whose successes come as a result of superb development of under-the-radar talent. UMich fans are shameless and painfully lacking in self awareness. I’m fine to let them enjoy the remaining few months of being reigning champs-and let’s be real: they ARE champs who fair and square earned the number one ranking by beating teams on the field; they just earned the distinction of being THE ONLY CHAMPION and ONLY PLAYOFF PARTICIPANT whose accomplishment is sullied by (largely needless-why tf are you expending resources to cheat against Indiana???) competition-degrading cheating-a distinction that will remain for eternity while the luster of glory RAPIDLY dissipates.
@@j_r_junior well said
Nah, they pretty stupid Brodi.
@@DavidWilliams-yd4nh What I mean is this: I am completely fine with fanatic fans who think their team’s the best, like you see at Alabama, Clemson, Tennessee, and the like. It's fine to be a great fan of your team. What I see in Michigan fans is very different. It's not only a fanaticism for their team, which is fine, but it's an arrogance that they are above everybody else and superior. This has clearly come out in the response of Michigan's president and Athletic Director (who supported their coach when the allegations and proof of cheating showed up in late October, delivered by the B1G commissioner. There was no concern, no call for an investigation; simply a “we don’t care if our coaches and players did this.”), along with all its coaching staff, and all but one or two Michigan fans with whom I have interacted since the cheating scandal became known. Michigan fans don't consider themselves subject to the rules. Everyone else is a peon, in their view. There is no embarrassment for what the team did. There is no shame, even though the facts of the case are there. I have not heard a single Michigan fan say anything even close to: "I don't think this is true (in ignorance, of course), but if it is true, we owe everybody back their wins. And, I'm embarrassed. This is embarrassing." Nothing remotely like this is ever said. It's more like, “Yes, we cheated, but there's nothing you can do about it." I've had conversations with many Michigan fans along these lines, and this is the arrogance that I see. I tell them, "I have never liked Michigan, but I have always respected them. I no longer respect them, because not only have they cheated to win, but they have shown no remorse over having done so.”
Nobody cares about post-season bans. They suck now. I want those wins gone. I want that fake title stripped
Damn, this was a great comment! 👍
Naw post season bans hurts worst they can't compete in the playoffs which would hurt recruiting and current players would leave. Why stay at a school that's not competing for something.
I agree they need to be taken away. Has anyone ever seen a worse year for a team coming off a natty? They don't realize it's going to get alot worse before it gets better. Mich won't be relevant for the next 5-7 years and leaning towards the over lol
I disagree @ammielcoats9762 Post season bans suck, and doesn't mean anything to a program and team that's going to SUCK for a long time and probably not gonna make the playoffs anyway. Which is why they hired "cryin" Moore for their coach, cause they know the next few years aren't going to mean anything for TCUN anyway because they lost all the decent, cheating coaches, and most of the cheating players. Take what they did while CHEATING AWAY 🙏🏼
@buckguy1215 taking away wins doesn't matter as much as you think. Taking bowl bans can set a program back who wants to play for a program that can't compete for a natty. Taking away wins does what? It doesn't affect recruiting cause those recruits weren't there when it happened.
I don't remember a team winning a national title undefeated then everyone jumps ship. Death penalty coming? FBI involved for hacking practice film, betting odds messed up allowing huge losses, they were completely corrupt and sold out to win. Other teams lost games, revenue, coaches dismissed, the harm done is immense.
Yes, including no Heisman for C.J., who lost the trophy both years in part because of the Michigan losses; Heisman voters had no knoweldge that Michigan knew the plays C.J. was running at them, pre-snap. Proof? C.J. could only put up 23 points against Michigan in 2022, but put up 41 against Georgia a month later. TCU put up only 7 against Georgia two weeks after that, but had managed to score 51 against Michigan two weeks prior. TCU is one of the teams Michigan had not done illegal, advanced, in-person scouting and illegal recording of their play calling on the sidelines (TCU was not on the master spreadsheet the NCAA & B1G has; no tickets purchased with Connor Stalions' credit card for any TCU games). Review: an offense that can score only 7 against Georgia could score 51 against Michigan. C.J. scored not 7, but 41 against Georgia. Conclusion: without Michigan knowing OSU's plays pre-snap, the OSU-Michigan game is a blowout-not just 41 points by OSU v. Michigan, but much more.
Its not DP offense..lol
Haven't heard a word about where the gambling investigation is headed.
or the hacking and stealing practice footage, fbi got involved over that. 4 major cheating scandles at once. michigan man down bad
@@jamietwigg5152yes, there is.
Great show as always Kirk & Nevada! Go Bucks!
At this point they better not get hit until after the season. It would be super unsatisfying if we only get crippled Michigan wins for the next decade without paying them back in full.
One game isn't going to make any difference.
@@woodybear8298 It will for me and the fans base. On long term outcome, no.
Michigan fans are certain this is a big nothing. They say its done and no hammer is coming. TBD I guess.
I got you Kirk, I hate how things ended for him with coach tress! But honestly he's smart and a great person and I loved his remarks reminds me of me of talking the way he did and his points and I loved it! Just a straight up dude! He reminds me also of my one coach I had at grade school level said I will coach you later...and he did and I loved it! I just wished he would of been my coach when I was on varsity cause he knew! Are coach ahead of him at highschool level was out of loop and didn't coach with talent he coached with his son in mind and his class which hurt us bad! I think if I would of played and players with my class instead of holding the class back behind your son's things would of been better and it would of been! Guaranteed! I hate how coaches in past live off there sons and screw the program in the long run! If he would of combined like most I guarantee we would of went to state my junior year in basketball! We beat the team they couldn't beat basically same team the next year with younger players.
Woody used to drive an old beat-up station wagon that was on its last leg
All the Michigan fans talking smack better be on here once the hammer drops
As I continue to say…I’ll believe it when I see it.
I hope you guys are right. If you’re not, your cred is completely gone.
With you maybe.
@@beedevil11😂😂😂😂
@@jamietwigg5152yawn… go troll a MSU podcast. They have way more cred than any Michigan pod cast.
These are the same idiots that said 6 months ago the hammer was dropping that Friday. They also said major rape allegations and warde Manuel cover ups were happening with other sports around Michigan . These two guys get drunk and just talk out their ass
Cadillac Michigan
I literally just subscribed just to come back after nothing happens to Michigan.💯😂😂🤡’s🤫🤫
Nothing is going to happen to Michigan sorry to bring you guys the bad news 🤣✌🏽
wanna bet???
In your dream world maybe.
Cheating never pays
Give back the fake natty
@@BuckeyeScoop yeah what’s the bet ? I’ll be back after the NOA comes out to hear all the crying and whining when nothing but minor violations come out. No post season ban No vacated wins No Titles are getting stripped !!!
Really sick of all the buckeye podcasts going over and over, when is Coach Johnson leaving? It will be a sad day when he does!
Love that all ohio can talk about is the Michigan NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP 👌
And here you are watching and commenting. Thanks for the veiw dummy 😂
Xichigan CHEATED, That is all.
It is crazy how the subject dominates the podcast conversation.
That they cheated and stole signs
There taking that too. Sorry
I hope Michigan gets blasted by the NCAA… I am still a bit skeptical it will be more than a few scholarships and probation
Keep wishing on a prayerthat’s never going to happen. These two fools said 6 months ago the hammer was dropping Friday and yet you’re still visiting their 50th video on Michigans going to get destroyed nonsense they spew. I cannot wait to return to this scam artist page when Michigans gets a light slap on the wrist . This guy may seriously cry or drink himself into a coma
@@di114n2so you agree scum cheated? Nice to see you admitting to the cheating. Thus nearly the entire staff scurried off to the NFL to avoid punishment.
It's very simple. Harbaugh and the coaches ran for cover in L.A. The Michigan fans are still bathing in the wins against OSU, Alabama, and Washington to win the championship. When they get the white hot poker it will hit them. Hard.
By going to the pros? dumb af
Yea I didn’t forgive osu for how they treated Tress…
I am a Michigan fan And yes the penalty is gonna be bad
Thank you. Somebody from Michigan with a brain.
Clearly you’re not a Michigan fan, you’re far too slow if you think a bad penalty is coming.😂😂🤡
Is the NCAA looking to destroy one of the most revenue generating team in the country? Stupid question
Im not a Michigan fan. And yes another penalty is coming. Michigan got caught cheating. Live with it.
4vr post season ban , vacate last 3 season! NCAA go to the shithole stadium, take all Championship banners, anything on stadium about fake Championship down ! Take all rings and Trophies away ! Make player's give back all rings etc !
There will be no vacated wins or post season bans. Just tears
I feel sorry for the good Michigan fans I really do a lot of them really enjoy their team just like we do, I have been a buckeye fan for 65 years an I would hate to see this happen to us but I would also be pissed at I my team for what they did and to those jerks at up north and around the rest of the country you deserve it because you don’t believe in doing the right thing.
Love the Show. Keep up the good work. Jersey Mike's is delicious! ( I'm jealous) 😂
Can’t wait for Hollywood to do a movie 🍿 🎥 on this whole thing in a few years!
Kirk, Neveda. Once this hammer drops don’t hold back AT ALL on these Michigan trolls. Let em have it. I’m so tired of it.
The NCAA doesn’t have the ability to destroy any school, especially a school as big and powerful as Michigan, the days of the NCAA ruling and watching over schools are over! Michigan isn’t gonna get much of a penalty in my opinion
We will find out.
IMO, the NCAA absolutely HAS TO punish michigan severely. This MUST BE the harshest penalty ever handed down in the history of sports. If they do nothing, it will give every other program the green light to copycat michigan, and cheating at this extreme will never end. Could you imagine how dominant OSU or Georgia or Bama would be if they were given the green light to cheat at this level?
If michigan gets away with it, you know how many other schools are going to start doing the same thing.
@@ohiostate614oh7 i’m not saying Michigan is going to get away with it, I’m just saying the penalty isn’t gonna be as bad as you wanted it to be or as bad as it should be.
If you put any money on those chances, you should ask for it back.
3 wins over OhioSoft, 3 Big10 Championships, National Championship. CRY MORE
Ok Connor Stallions,
Look at ASU and you cheated far worse
@@nicholasrostar5020 Here is the issue you have Michigan use “legal” information some of which they obtained by violating NCAA. A rule that was put in place as a cost saver.
Now there is no real consensus on the information that was obtained and it’s real measurable quantitative value on the outcome of the individual play or game.
So now you need to figure what games this information was used in then what percent was obtained “legally” vs “illegally”, and of the “illegal” once what percent was a net positive. Then of that net positive what was the actual effect.
With ASU this is an easier question to answer because it wasn’t the 4th string long snapper but guys who played and have an actual statically measured impact on the outcome of the game.
So you cannot say they used it in every game, you also cannot argue the impact it had on the games as they won their last 6 games under investigation so we can assume they didn’t use it then.
Now I’m not saying they didn’t break the rules and shouldn’t be punished I’m saying to what standard? Is it the same as playing ineligible players, would it be the same as hacking into a team or breaking into a building and stealing playbooks? The information they had and how it was used is perfectly within the rules how they obtained some of it is in question.
It would be like your parents saying you can take all the cookies from your brothers you want from the jar except for Tuesday’s between 3 and 4 because 30 years ago that’s when we washed the jar.
But I get it, we all pretend tattoo gate was a thing lol
Sad yall had to resort to cheating in order to win
@@Scott-gq3ii ah yes, the stolen natty. Have some patience.