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Yo, I’m actually really glad you’re mentioning this. I saw Baena post a crazy multiscale version of the shape recently from a factory tour he just did and it totally reawakened some old early guitar-browsing memories from the early 10’s. 🥹 different era back then. We have it so much better now LOL.
I was unable to find used Stargazer basses…..an older bolty version was the ONLY one I could find anywhere! I mean, I’ve heard them played but don’t live somewhere i could expect to lay hands on one and play it myself. They look cool AF and coupled with their lack of representation in the used bass market….I bought one mail order. I am impressed. I now have 3 Schecters and could sell all the rest of my basses and die happy.
No it didn't. It had different pickups, different bridge, different neck, different tuners, and vastly different sound. The original didn't sell because it didn't remotely scratch the Rick itch. and if you look at the new version it's more Rickenbacker style than ever.
The first guitar I ever spent my own money on was a 006 deluxe in satin black. That was 2005, and I still have it. It's got hipshot tuners and EMGs now, and I still play it often. Edit, I also had the s-1 with pink flames, but I sold that one years ago.
A red Stargazer bass was the first 'real' (more than a couple hundred dollars) bass I ever bought, around the time they were discontinued. It has been very heavily modified, but I still have it, and will never sell it.
Dude, I still own one of those old, gaudy emm-effs. It recently got dethroned as the most attractive guitar I have, but I STILL love the heck out of it!
I still have my Hellraiser Solo 6 that i bought about 15 years ago and still love it! Fender scale length, abalone out the wazoo, EMG 85/81, locking tuners. Just sooooo much guitar for the money!
Schecter not making an 8 string bass Stargazer but making a 12 string bass really annoys me, I love 8 string basses That said, the white 6 string guitar is so cool!
I mean, couldn't you just leave the highest strings missing and it's basically an 8 string? I was thinking it'd be like a 6 string bass with a higher string instead of like a 4 string with 2 higher strings. But I realize the distance between each pair of strings would probably be a bit wider than if it were designed to be an 8 string.
There are so many options out there for an 8 string bass in that price range if you want one. Comparitively, there are very few 12 strings you can get for around $1000 or less because it's a niche instrument. Now they more or less have a monopoly on that niche as opposed to having to compete if they made it an 8 string.
I really like the shape of the 00/ Stargazers - and the 12-string is very, very nice. The Stargazer is a refreshing shape that is different to the usual takes on S, T, LP's. I kind of want a Schecter-looking Schecter though - the old Stargazer with the abalone binding/ purfling and cross inlays.
I remember the original Stargazer launch, the basses in particular were pretty sought after. The 006 and 007 were killer as well. Schecter has and always will be one of my favorite brands. They’ve made a ton of non metal looking shapes and aesthetics and there’s some sigs that I’d love to have 🎉
Schecter is such a great company. I’ve been playing their basses almost as long as I’ve been playing bass. The Studio series basses are my go to. Great tonal variety, reliable, great quality, and they just look fantastic. Either be in a metal setting all the way to a funk setting, they will get the job done.
I was definitely someone who thought of Schecter as the brand that only made edgy metalcore guitars, until around a year ago when I started seeing more models like the hollowbody guitars, singlecuts, and more traditional strats, etc. Now I think they're just an awesome brand that has a little something for everybody
I picked up the stargazer 12 string a few months ago. Set neck and is an absolute blast to play. No regrets at all. Oh and sold my squire 12 string a VERY short time later!
I have a Schecter S-1 Elite and yes, its that blood red color. Inlove that guitar its right in-between a SG and a Les Paul. I did some under the hood mods too. It's just too good to get rid of. Its also my go to for neck feel as it feels PERFECT for my heavy handed rhythm guitar playing. I always smile when I play it. 😎👍✨
Rickenbacker has classic styling for sure. When I think of classics like gibson and fender I also lump in rickenbacker although they operate differently than their competitors
I have a Schecter 006 Deluxe VRS from 2004. That guitar has no business being as good as it is for $175 new, back in the day. I still play that guitar all the time.
Dude! I totally forgot I used to have a 006 blackjack in this shape. Wow I forgot about that guitar but I remember really liking it at the time. I wound up selling it to buy a Gibson Les Paul as I thought that would make me a more taken serious player at the time lol.
This would have been the perfect model to get the VI treatment. I know they have the Hellcat VI and I think more traditional VI but this would have been the model for sure to really grab those loathe fans.
I’ve always kept Schecter in my searches but owning one has eluded me. PT always tempting. But I just picked up the white Stargazer 12 string a few weeks ago. It’s quite the guitar. I did order it “b stock” and the only issue is the tone pot needs to get rewired, but the fit and finish are almost perfect. Bridge pup is definitely a bit bright and honky for me, has its place, but the neck pup is great. Was curious about the neck feel, but it’s super comfortable and easy to play with the added strings. The bridge is clever, 6 strings through body 6 strings top mounted so it’s very adjustable. Idk the guitar just looks great and plays great. If they marketed it more I feel like we’d see them in the wild. I wanted an electric 12 string, assumed it would be a semi hollow (reverend probably) but really liked this aesthetic and needed to check off Schecter on my list.
I think it was Melechesh who use a 12 string for metal but don't have thinner octave tuned second strings. But rather tuned in unison for a thicker double tracked sound.
I own one of the older Emerald Green special runs (shown early in your vid), I think they only made 12 of them. These were built with Schecter Custom Shop pickups and TonePros Bridges, it sounds and plays great!
Jeff Ament from Pearl Jam played a 12-string bass on Jeremy. I play bass and I am not a fan of the Rickenbacker, however, Lemmy's carved 4001 is awesome and I like it. As for the switches I think one is to switch the humbucker from series to parallel and to split it. I think the other switch is to tap the neck pickup. I would like to try one out, but I would prefer the SLS evil twin if I was to get a Schecter.
Strawberry sunburst Stargazer bass was the first higher end bass I bought (the one pictured in the video at 3:27). I had an early 70s Epiphone Newport bass and an SX P bass copy. I had high expectations, but as beautiful as the bass looked, it did not resonate at all - if I played either of my other basses not plugged in, you could hear them acoustically ring out clear and rich, but if you tried that with the Schecter, even in a perfectly silent room, you couldn’t even hear it. Totally dead. And then when you plugged it in, you had to turn the active bass EQ ALL the way up and it still didn’t have as much bottom end as either of the other basses. It was a real learning experience to buy with my ears rather than my eyes.
Well, I really hope you get a chance to review the Starcaster. I have sought and have seen zilch on this one yet. I am particularly interested in the tremelo version.
Ok fun fact the street map at 3:46 that’s being shown on the left with the 3 schecter guitars is my city map, I live in Cary Nc and the streets at Southpoint is a mall, and ole apex road is like 5mins from my house lol
Id like to get the Stargazer 12 string bass!😊 I already have a Schecter Studio 8 bass , the Stargazer 12 just goes a bit farther. There is nothing like a RIC bass though😅
My favorite thing about Schecter is that so many of their models are just “metalized” versions of old teisco guitars Check out the schecter avenger and then compare it to the teisco spectrum, literally the same guitar
I would love to see a Demo of this guitar. I know Schecter put out 1 demo, but I'd like to see how it does with more classic rock tones. Maybe some Foo Fighter, Qotsa, or Nirvana type rock.
I couple of months ago I was searching specs for old she devil when I saw the 006 and 007 an fell in love anthem boom the stargazer again, is a shame no 7 string version
Something about Rickenbacker is that the FEEL of the instruments are VERY different. So while I like the look of them (mainly the 330) the feel is too off. The basses are alright but I am used to my Precisions and Jazz basses that I have played. The looks of Rickenbacker goes back to the 1950s and European aesthetics, especial with those German carves in them. To me they look cool on other players. It's also worth mentioning that Lemmy highly modified his Rickenbacker basses with Gibson Thunderbird pickups. So it's a different beast than a standard 4001 production bass.
I completely agree with you Hunter, Rickenbacker’s are gross, not remotely a fan, however these stargazer’s look classy af Keep taking us down these awesome rabbit holes! 🐰💪🏻🎸🔥
The scale length is pretty negligible. What I'm looking is pickup location. I like that schecter put it closer to the bridge. That will really benefit the clarity of a 12 string bass. This thing looks awesome, not a lot of options for 12 bass. The site says the knobs are V/B/T front toggle taps the neck pickup and the rear toggle is a 3 way to put the bridge hum in series, split, or parallel. Tons of tonal variety
I like Schecters, I own an old Jeff Loomis Seven string that I love... Except for the scale length. I would be SOOO much more stoked on Schecter if they didn't insist on every seven string being a 26.5" scale length. There are those of us that still prefer 25.5", but other than that, they're good.
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Shoutout to Mike for killing the edit on this one! Been Schecter-pilled recently NGL. Crazy they're such a massive guitar brand, and yet from the 006 to Schecter Japan, there are so many overlooked aspects of Schecter..
Yo, I’m actually really glad you’re mentioning this. I saw Baena post a crazy multiscale version of the shape recently from a factory tour he just did and it totally reawakened some old early guitar-browsing memories from the early 10’s. 🥹 different era back then. We have it so much better now LOL.
I was actually looking for a used Stargazer on reverb over the summer, so I'm super glad these came out. That white one with the ebony board is nice.
I was unable to find used Stargazer basses…..an older bolty version was the ONLY one I could find anywhere!
I mean, I’ve heard them played but don’t live somewhere i could expect to lay hands on one and play it myself.
They look cool AF and coupled with their lack of representation in the used bass market….I bought one mail order. I am impressed. I now have 3 Schecters and could sell all the rest of my basses and die happy.
The bass got them in trouble with Rickenbacker. If you look at the shape now, they altered the cutaways.
No it didn't. It had different pickups, different bridge, different neck, different tuners, and vastly different sound. The original didn't sell because it didn't remotely scratch the Rick itch. and if you look at the new version it's more Rickenbacker style than ever.
The first guitar I ever spent my own money on was a 006 deluxe in satin black. That was 2005, and I still have it. It's got hipshot tuners and EMGs now, and I still play it often. Edit, I also had the s-1 with pink flames, but I sold that one years ago.
A red Stargazer bass was the first 'real' (more than a couple hundred dollars) bass I ever bought, around the time they were discontinued. It has been very heavily modified, but I still have it, and will never sell it.
Dude, I still own one of those old, gaudy emm-effs. It recently got dethroned as the most attractive guitar I have, but I STILL love the heck out of it!
That goldtop with vibrato is definitely on my radar, what's a delicious looking guitar
I have that old stargazer bass in the strawberry burst. Thing is fantastic. Got it used with a case for $650.
The old stargazer 6 was the first thing I bought with my first check at my first job. Still have it to this day 🖤
The new Stargazer is on my wishlist. Might take a while to get one, but I'll have one eventually.
I used to have the 006 Elite and I loved that guitar and still love that shape today. I wished they'd bring it back, updated.
I still have my Hellraiser Solo 6 that i bought about 15 years ago and still love it! Fender scale length, abalone out the wazoo, EMG 85/81, locking tuners. Just sooooo much guitar for the money!
Schecter not making an 8 string bass Stargazer but making a 12 string bass really annoys me, I love 8 string basses
That said, the white 6 string guitar is so cool!
I mean, couldn't you just leave the highest strings missing and it's basically an 8 string? I was thinking it'd be like a 6 string bass with a higher string instead of like a 4 string with 2 higher strings. But I realize the distance between each pair of strings would probably be a bit wider than if it were designed to be an 8 string.
@brians1793 Yeah, it's mainly just the neck width problem. You COULD just do that, but then the string spacing would be all weird :P
There are so many options out there for an 8 string bass in that price range if you want one. Comparitively, there are very few 12 strings you can get for around $1000 or less because it's a niche instrument. Now they more or less have a monopoly on that niche as opposed to having to compete if they made it an 8 string.
I really like the shape of the 00/ Stargazers - and the 12-string is very, very nice.
The Stargazer is a refreshing shape that is different to the usual takes on S, T, LP's.
I kind of want a Schecter-looking Schecter though - the old Stargazer with the abalone binding/ purfling and cross inlays.
I have a limited edition "Bulldog" Stargazer, it's a dark green color. It's one of my favorite guitars. I bought it at least a decade ago!
I remember the original Stargazer launch, the basses in particular were pretty sought after. The 006 and 007 were killer as well. Schecter has and always will be one of my favorite brands. They’ve made a ton of non metal looking shapes and aesthetics and there’s some sigs that I’d love to have 🎉
Schecter is such a great company. I’ve been playing their basses almost as long as I’ve been playing bass.
The Studio series basses are my go to. Great tonal variety, reliable, great quality, and they just look fantastic. Either be in a metal setting all the way to a funk setting, they will get the job done.
I was definitely someone who thought of Schecter as the brand that only made edgy metalcore guitars, until around a year ago when I started seeing more models like the hollowbody guitars, singlecuts, and more traditional strats, etc. Now I think they're just an awesome brand that has a little something for everybody
I collect Schecter 006’s and 007’s, I really need to add a Stargazer to the lineup. One day i’m gonna get one of the white 6-string ones
I miss my old 006 Elite so much. That was one that I regret selling.
They were boss
The 12 string looks like something I would never need but I definitely need, y’know?
I deeply DEEPLY hope they bring back the 006. Such a sick guitar
I’ve said it before, my Lambo Orange SVSS is my best playing guitar out of all of them. It alone completely changed my opinion of Schecter
I picked up the stargazer 12 string a few months ago. Set neck and is an absolute blast to play. No regrets at all. Oh and sold my squire 12 string a VERY short time later!
I have a Schecter S-1 Elite and yes, its that blood red color. Inlove that guitar its right in-between a SG and a Les Paul. I did some under the hood mods too. It's just too good to get rid of.
Its also my go to for neck feel as it feels PERFECT for my heavy handed rhythm guitar playing. I always smile when I play it. 😎👍✨
I've got a 2009 Stargazer-5 bass and it's the one I play live with. I love mine.
Rickenbacker has classic styling for sure. When I think of classics like gibson and fender I also lump in rickenbacker although they operate differently than their competitors
The 00 is underrated. Always reminded me of the old Ibanez Roadstar II’s
The Pearl Jam hit, Jeremy, has a good representation of a 12 string bass. Jeff Ament is pretty groovy, too.
I have a Schecter 006 Deluxe VRS from 2004. That guitar has no business being as good as it is for $175 new, back in the day. I still play that guitar all the time.
Man.. I need that Stargazer 12 bass in my life.
No one can deny that fender looks like a xmas sweater tho 🤣
Dude! I totally forgot I used to have a 006 blackjack in this shape. Wow I forgot about that guitar but I remember really liking it at the time. I wound up selling it to buy a Gibson Les Paul as I thought that would make me a more taken serious player at the time lol.
I loved the 00 series. I thought they were so cool and at one time had the guitar and bass version
This would have been the perfect model to get the VI treatment. I know they have the Hellcat VI and I think more traditional VI but this would have been the model for sure to really grab those loathe fans.
god that stick stickly videoclip is so ICONIC thank you for adding it to the video
I always wanted a 006, so maybe with the Stargazers coming back they'll make a return!!
Stargazer 7 would be sick
I’ve always kept Schecter in my searches but owning one has eluded me. PT always tempting. But I just picked up the white Stargazer 12 string a few weeks ago. It’s quite the guitar. I did order it “b stock” and the only issue is the tone pot needs to get rewired, but the fit and finish are almost perfect. Bridge pup is definitely a bit bright and honky for me, has its place, but the neck pup is great. Was curious about the neck feel, but it’s super comfortable and easy to play with the added strings. The bridge is clever, 6 strings through body 6 strings top mounted so it’s very adjustable. Idk the guitar just looks great and plays great.
If they marketed it more I feel like we’d see them in the wild. I wanted an electric 12 string, assumed it would be a semi hollow (reverend probably) but really liked this aesthetic and needed to check off Schecter on my list.
I think it was Melechesh who use a 12 string for metal but don't have thinner octave tuned second strings. But rather tuned in unison for a thicker double tracked sound.
The Stargazers have PASSIVE pickups, so I would actually buy one.
Stargazer guitar is oddly satisfying 🖤
I have a 007 elite with Duncan invaders.
I own one of the older Emerald Green special runs (shown early in your vid), I think they only made 12 of them. These were built with Schecter Custom Shop pickups and TonePros Bridges, it sounds and plays great!
Jeff Ament from Pearl Jam played a 12-string bass on Jeremy. I play bass and I am not a fan of the Rickenbacker, however, Lemmy's carved 4001 is awesome and I like it. As for the switches I think one is to switch the humbucker from series to parallel and to split it. I think the other switch is to tap the neck pickup. I would like to try one out, but I would prefer the SLS evil twin if I was to get a Schecter.
Strawberry sunburst Stargazer bass was the first higher end bass I bought (the one pictured in the video at 3:27). I had an early 70s Epiphone Newport bass and an SX P bass copy. I had high expectations, but as beautiful as the bass looked, it did not resonate at all - if I played either of my other basses not plugged in, you could hear them acoustically ring out clear and rich, but if you tried that with the Schecter, even in a perfectly silent room, you couldn’t even hear it. Totally dead. And then when you plugged it in, you had to turn the active bass EQ ALL the way up and it still didn’t have as much bottom end as either of the other basses. It was a real learning experience to buy with my ears rather than my eyes.
I bought my 006 elite new in 2001 and still have it. Hipshot tuners, Hipshot bridge, EMG's and Graphtech nut.
You should feature some Eastwood Guitars, very wide variety of designs.
Well, I really hope you get a chance to review the Starcaster. I have sought and have seen zilch on this one yet. I am particularly interested in the tremelo version.
Rickenbacker 4000 basses are notorious for the worse rate of neck dive ever due to the massive headstock which also why they sound as good as they do.
Man I’ve wanted a 006 forever
Happy new year brother！
Ok fun fact the street map at 3:46 that’s being shown on the left with the 3 schecter guitars is my city map, I live in Cary Nc and the streets at Southpoint is a mall, and ole apex road is like 5mins from my house lol
I have the 2008 12 stargazer its actually really awesome!! I didnt play it a whole lot but i liked the guitar!
I hope you get the 12 string and show us how well it chugs.
Dude I got myself a custom TSH-1 years ago because I wanted a semi hollow guitar for metal way before Wolfgang.
Rickenbacker , bass in particular , are in the design HOF….pure 60’s!!
Now take a look at the Schecter Ultras for that 60s vintage vibe
Used to have a 006 and 006 elite. They were great
Id like to get the Stargazer 12 string bass!😊
I already have a Schecter Studio 8 bass , the Stargazer 12 just goes a bit farther.
There is nothing like a RIC bass though😅
12:48 You forgot the most important, Cliff Burton.
They look like mix of a Gibson Victory and Rickenbacker 4003.
Dug pinnick from kings x has played a schecter signature 12 string bass for years. Surprised you didn’t mention or were unaware.
My favorite thing about Schecter is that so many of their models are just “metalized” versions of old teisco guitars
Check out the schecter avenger and then compare it to the teisco spectrum, literally the same guitar
I think Rob would more likely get a 16 string. 8 string version of a 12 string.
Thank you Schecter for your lefty report
I would love to see a Demo of this guitar. I know Schecter put out 1 demo, but I'd like to see how it does with more classic rock tones. Maybe some Foo Fighter, Qotsa, or Nirvana type rock.
004 for bass is sick, need the 5 string tho
I couple of months ago I was searching specs for old she devil when I saw the 006 and 007 an fell in love anthem boom the stargazer again, is a shame no 7 string version
I had a black 004 for many years, amazing bass both sounding and looking, i love that bass, get rid of it and now i will need a Stargazer 😬😬😬
I still search for 007 and 006 occasionally on reverb
I have the OG bass and guitar they r AMAZING! Will and would never sell
Cool guitar 🎸 structure 🇲🇾😊👍
Cheap Tricks, Tom Peterson, and King X's Doug Pinnick both use 12 string basses.
I dig it! Honestly, it looks cooler than a Rickenbacher. I'm a LEFTY too. It's nice having a company cater to us non-majority. Thanks Schecter!
I don’t think there’s an appreciable difference between covered and uncovered pickups that can’t be EQ’d out with a very minor bump in treble
Something about Rickenbacker is that the FEEL of the instruments are VERY different. So while I like the look of them (mainly the 330) the feel is too off. The basses are alright but I am used to my Precisions and Jazz basses that I have played.
The looks of Rickenbacker goes back to the 1950s and European aesthetics, especial with those German carves in them. To me they look cool on other players.
It's also worth mentioning that Lemmy highly modified his Rickenbacker basses with Gibson Thunderbird pickups. So it's a different beast than a standard 4001 production bass.
I have a 006 blackjack
I completely agree with you Hunter, Rickenbacker’s are gross, not remotely a fan, however these stargazer’s look classy af
Keep taking us down these awesome rabbit holes! 🐰💪🏻🎸🔥
I still have my 006 and 007 guitars both are hs loaded and set necks.. wish they would bring them back
The scale length is pretty negligible. What I'm looking is pickup location. I like that schecter put it closer to the bridge. That will really benefit the clarity of a 12 string bass. This thing looks awesome, not a lot of options for 12 bass.
The site says the knobs are V/B/T front toggle taps the neck pickup and the rear toggle is a 3 way to put the bridge hum in series, split, or parallel. Tons of tonal variety
Also want to bring your attention to the Rickenbacker 4008.
I like Schecters, I own an old Jeff Loomis Seven string that I love... Except for the scale length. I would be SOOO much more stoked on Schecter if they didn't insist on every seven string being a 26.5" scale length. There are those of us that still prefer 25.5", but other than that, they're good.
Looks like the Quest Manhattan guitars made in Japan in the 1980s
You think thats Strange you see the Schecter Genesis G6. It looks like a Guild Blade Runner.
So you're telling me that the Japanese Rathalos Telecaster has a scratch design... on the *scratch* plate??
The Ric 620 has a thru body neck - same as a Gibson Firebird - not a set neck
I like the white one but I would put a white pickguard on it. I think all white would look cool.
Awww I did not know Hisatake died....RIP
I’m pretty sure that Charles berthoud made a video playing a twelve string bass
Love me some Schecter. Lefty love always!
I own an original avenger A-7 from 1999..wouldn't give it up for anything.. it totally shreds
I think the “non-metal” Schecter guitars should get more attention and praise, they’re actually really good guitars.
I had one of the 2008 models, I should have kept it!
Energy sponsor on a Schecter video. Come to the dark side… 🤟
These are awesome guitars. Stop bringing attention to them so I can continue to get them for hella cheap on reverb 😎
You can never have enough abalone.
Saddly, always 1.5lbs too heavy for my old back....
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
I just bought a Stargazer w/vibrato from sweetwater