Woj details what went into the Hornets firing James Borrego | NBA Today
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Adrian Wojnarowski joins NBA Today to give the details on why the Charlotte Hornets decided to fire their head coach James Borrego after four seasons.
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In my opinion, James Borrego's poor player management skill got him the sack.
No strategy. Was his biggest downfall. Benching players. 🤣 I fired him on nba 2k22 too
@@beats4life971 True. It falls under player management on and off the court. The guy seemed lost most times on the sidelines.
His rotations were trash and other coaches destroyed him with matchups and adjustments.
The two back-to-back years of improvements followed the trajectory of Ball and Bridges added/improving.
@@danielhaney9992 they should trade PJ for a center.
@@danielhaney9992 I agree.
Oh please. The Borrego stat of him increasing his wins is literally only due to the increased number of games each year because of the pandemic. The coaching move was necessary and those who follow the team know it.
Winning% of the past 3 years. 35% in 2019. 45% in 2020. 52% in 2021.
Thats an amazing job for the simple fact that he's done that with players in their early 20s leading the team.
😂😂
The win% increase was from the addition of LaMelo Ball, not off the strength of his coaching ability.
@@NegiZero Not just lamelo lol, miles bridges took a huge leap.
What would you say was his biggest fault ? (for a general nba fan who doesn't follow the hornets as much)
Of the teams with coaching vacancies the Hornets job is the most attractive job out there. There's a lot of talent on the team, trade pieces, and moves to be made in the next few years while Melo is on his rookie deal.
ok wannabe GM
Knock it off he was a good young coach. Now they gonna bring a old white dude who's coached other teams and not win anything. Jordan was a great player but as an owner not so much.
@@xxxxbigrich5752 Oh, they might also bring in an old coach of a different color, but you can bet it will be some dude has been that already been fired somewhere else, just in time to convince LaMelo not to resign...... you are right about Jordan, even after lucking into finally having a few decent players they are going to screw it up.
lol yeah Lakers def arent a marquee team to coach ... Hornets definitely is the most attractive.. clown.
@@xxxxbigrich5752 He was trash. he put all his chips in this year and came up small. he played NONE of his draft picks from this past year. Bouknight was the 11th pick overall and he saw no tick. it was a point whne Bouknight looked like he was going to sucker punch the coach and ball had to hold him back. he played vets instead. Then, he was constantly benching Ball in the 4th quarter of games. However, it was not all on him. Mitch Kupchuk should get the boot as well.
He wanted to implement that Spurs system and mentality, which may work on traditional players like Tim Duncan, but if you have an unorthodox player like Lamelo Ball, you need to be a bit more flexible and let him off the reins a bit so he can be creative and maximize his potential
This is more spot on and intelligent than anything said on ESPN about the firing
@@obnoxiouslakerfan agreed👌🏼💯
Yes! You should not implement a rigorous system, like all the dynasties do (Spurs, Lakers, Bulls, Warriors). What you need to do is to let your 20yo-no-defense-20ppg-with-20-shots run wild. That's how you win.
@@riccardoferrazzo8283 You’re exaggerating what was said. All I have to say is, look at what the Warriors did with Curry.
@@kijungpaik8515 you mean, to make Curry be disciplined and 100% focus on defense in one of the best NBA defense ever? Or do you mean building a offensive system based motion and intelligent reading and not dribbling the ball for 30 minutes to accumulate stats?
Also, please let's not talk about LaMelo Ball as if he could be even in the same conversation with Curry.
This is Mark Jackson year to be hired as a head coach.
Bad gm
Him and MJ aint that tight
FACTS
Jackson never adapted to the offenses in the NBA. That's why he was fired with Golden State.
@@DIVISIONINCISION wrong. He was fired for other reasons.
Hornets also need to find away to trade Hayward. The hornets need a center as well. A myles turner, Christian wood, or jusef nurkic would help them
With how the Jazz are imploding before our eyes, the Hornet's might get a shot at trading for Gobert
The hornets need an interior who can defend and mostly have an impact offensively.
We need to get better on perimeter defense more than we need a center
christian wood would be great ima rockets fan
@@TheKendeHD we shouldn’t have ever gotten rid of him. He played for us and the swarm. I’m from Greensboro and I seen him play before. He was decent then.
Why are they praising him so much? The Hornets have a ton of talent and were a disappointment.
Hornets fans always complained about the way he plays young players, and his staunch rotation without any nuance in games
Well it's pretty simple. Hes a not a great coach or even an above average coach. Hes just an ok coach that won't get your franchise anywhere
Anybody that watched one full Hornets game this season knew this was gonna happen. He seems like a good coach, but he didn't get along w the youngins on his team.
Coming from Spurs, I’d understand why he won’t get along with other players. Spurs coaches don’t tolerate VIP mentality of players and would rather they follow a certain system. Neither is at fault though.
You mean LaMelo did what ever he wanted!
@@sandyrodriguez2803 Lamelo was a team player lol tf you mean
@@sandyrodriguez2803 you mean melo was left to play as many minutes as cody martin?
D’Antoni would be a match made in heaven for this hornets team ngl.
NOOOOOOOO😢!!!!!!!
Defense is the problem not offense they don’t play defense now def wouldn’t with D’antoni 😂
Of course D’Antoni style of play would work here but if you look at the top teams in the playoffs you’ll notice it’s all about DEFENSE! The only D’Antoni knows is in his last name!!!
@@Sole_4_real exactly
True all they need to do is get a defensive minded assistant with D'Antonio like a Mike Brown Frank Vogel or someone
I guess Mike wants faster development in Charlotte, they’ll be seeking a decent coach now, maybe a Mark Jackson, or better yet a Mike D’Antoni, he’d turn LaMelo into a legitimate Superstar, similar to how he developed Harden. Plus he’d get them to the ECF or at least the semis, on a consistent basis.
Vogel would actually really help them I think
Mark Jackson😮💨
@@callumalston5755 I don’t see Vogel getting them to the playoffs quickly tbh, D’Antoni would get them at least to the 2nd rd within his first 2 years. Turning LaMelo into a James Harden type player, this style of play won’t win championships but it will keep the team exciting and consistently in the playoffs. All of this assuming they make smart trades.
Mark Jackson would be the ultimate hire imho..
Yeah, because speeding up a rebuild always works out. Mike just proved that his terrible owner reputation is not just a reputation. Great business man.. but for fucks sake, terrible at his job.
Mark Jackson would be perfect for Lamelo and the rest of the hornets
Ur not a gm
I live where the Warriors play. Mark Jackson had terrible rotations and blew games he shouldn't have. He creeped out a lot of people in management. If he was so good, why hasn't he gotten another coaching job in 8 years? All of the teams know his reputation.
Him and MJ aint that tight
Probably not, but he could be if he s not salty about their past.
Facts
Melo increased them wins not borehole
🗣
While that was a crazy stat that Malika read at the end…what she fails to realize is that we didn’t make the playoffs in his 4 years here and we got blown out of two play-in games…not to mention JB has a below .500 winning percentage..it was time to move on!
@@akendon7260 correction LaMelo is a Allstar and Miles had his best season as a pro and it’s hard to trade someone who is constantly hurt! We’re a small market team so it’s hard to get big name free agents and that’s on Mitch not JB!
@@akendon7260 Bonafide Centers aren’t just dying to come to CLT! It’s not that JB did a bad job we just need someone that can get us to the next level! Similar to when Toronto part ways with Dwayne Casey he just won coach of the year!!
gotta fill up the time...and it "seems" like important stat when half of teams in playoffs, but its a nothing stat
Woj isn’t familiar because the hornets are neither a big market nor a good team. Borrego comes from the Spurs so he’s used to structure and little flash. So, he’s been trying to get melo to play “the right way.” Obviously melo doesn’t like that because he’s so creative and unpredictable, so he feels kind of confined and as we know when it comes to coach vs star, the star will usually win.
Ginobili and Parker were high creative players and succeded in the spurs
Oh he must’ve Told u this
Yeah don’t confine your star player. Imagine if Trae Young, D Mitchell, Luka, Ja, Tatum and other young stars were confined 🤣. Coaching style matters lol.
Melo goes for highlights, and turns the ball over, and doesnt play defense. Kids dont want to be coached, they know better, until they are 25-26 and on a team that doesnt win, imo
@@melian9999 To say he doesn’t play defense on a terrible all around defensive team isn’t saying much. The whole defensive coaching scheme was horrible. LaMelo could of played top notch defensive and the defense as a team still would of been below average. Not a opinionated statement but from watching every Hornet game this season 🤷🏽♂️
The only people surprised by this is people who don’t keep up with the Hornets. Pick any random hornets social media posts in the past year and they’re littered with “FIRE BORREGO” comments
They played 72 games in 20-21 and 82 games in 21-22. They won 10 more because there were 10 more to play. That stat at the end of the video is terrible.
Winning 10 outta 10 games is still impressive 😂😂. That would still mean their overall winning percentage has increased. Hypothetically, say Charlote won 40% of their games in 2021-22, then you would expect them to win 4 more games if there was 10 more to play, not all 10.
@@fanofanimation4293 still the 10th seed. Same as last year lol
The only way your comment makes sense is if the hornets managed to go undefeated for 2 straight seasons, because then youd say it doesnt matter how many games they won they still had the same win percentage. But we all know the Hornets were far from undefeated.
@@fanofanimation4293 you're reaching hard bro
If you adjust the shortened season to 82 games, they would have had 38 wins so really it's a 5 game improvement
He pulls players when they get hot. His coaching has been questionable for a min.
Would love to see Kenny Atkinson as a replacement.
And it happened lol
@@icahnbayleh8458 Backtrack on that lol
I'm glad my heat stayed with spo through thick and thin now he is top 15 of all time
Marc Jackson to the Hornets…make it happen MJ
No. Don’t u dare
@@ILoveFood654 why? Nobody cares about what he said
The Hornets just started to walk and now they think they can jump. The front office think they're now ready to win it all. Good luck with that.
The man been holding melo back he had to go they got a amazing team should have went further
Same dude that sits your all star point guard in the 4 th
Not surprised tbh not playing lamelo right not making the playoffs not calling up gelo melo is the best player MJ has ever drafted he needs to build around him and get players that work and coach that believes in him
Can you imagine what it will do to Melo's confidence if you build around him like they have done for Steph Curry, James Harden and others if he has been able to become ROTY and an All-Star with the coach holding him back imagine what he will do if they give him the keys and let him loose.
Not calling Gelo was crazy. Every team in the NBA is trying to get Gelo. They all want to pay Gelo the max and make him their star. JB could have had Gelo for the minimum and he said not. And now Gelo will get max money in any of the other 29 teams. JB is so crazy
@@riccardoferrazzo8283 Lol I hope you’re trolling
@@riccardoferrazzo8283 literally any team could've taken him for the minimum. G league teams passed on him. Buggin..
@@smkrieg41 I think he is being blacked balled idk why tho there’s numerous nba players who have been arrested or got charged but still played in nba him shoplifting in China wasn’t even that big of deal it wasn’t like it was violent offense or drug charges he can definitely play imo he can shoot play decent defense can bring crowds and views to a team they chould put him on the worst team in nba and I guarantee they will sell hella jersey and tickets now will gelo sell out area’s by himself idk but if he plays against or with his brother definitely
Mistake. Hornets needed two things: 1) A reliable Center (while developing the rookie Centers in the G league)
2) a defense coordinator.
Firing coach B was not the solution unless you can find a coach in the mold of Celtics current coach or that of the Suns.
Mark Jackson will be the coach for them since the Lakers are playing. Mike go for Mark
LLL. Mark jackson didn’t do anything for the warriors. If anything regarding defense, it was Mike Malone…
The Hornets is a attractive job. Specially if they can manage to bring Bridges back. I think there's some great coaching candidates out there.
No one wants to go to live in a city like that lol
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby a city that doesn't have rampant crime and is somewhat affordable? Gee I wonder who would want to live there.
@@mse2130 People there farm corn and many are racist and inbreed with their siblings and in general, life there is boring. I haven’t been, just read about it. I think it’s common knowledge though.
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby if you google a picture of Charlotte you’d see it’s completely modernized and has been for a very long time so idk how it’s common knowledge. Also the cities largest employers are Large Banks and Hospitals. There’s no rural part of Charlotte for anyone to farm in but always construction. Maybe touch some grass and travel instead of making dumb assumptions
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby I see you read an article published in the 60s 🤣.
Why bench players when they get hot? It makes no sense. You don't do that.
Here is what happened:
Jordan: *you're fired. Get out.*
Borrego: -_-
good news the lakers are open lol
Adrian Wojnarowski joins NBA Today to not give the details on why the Charlotte Hornets decided to fire their head coach James Borrego after four seasons.
Hornets need a legit big man
They've played much of every season without Gordon since he's been there. They brought him in knowing his past and gave him way too much money. He's good when he's healthy, but he's never healthy.
Sad, but true
Mark Jackson please!!!!
This was a Playoff Team not play-in Team. The Month of Februray was the worst Month of Basketball I've ever seen and silly game management.
MJ should hire Lavar Ball as coach. He will put fire into his players.
That would be so good and funny
Undefeated. Neva lost !!!!
Lmfao what a joke
This is not Mark Jacksons job . this is Frank Vogels job. I’m sorry we want a championship, soon. I think Frank would have something to prove and a young team that the league calls “developmental” can be over 50 wins
Voguel is one coach that I would like to see. Maybe he can get the Hornets to become a more defensive-minded team. So many times this season, their low defensive effort cost them.
Marks and Nash may be next....
Starting to feel KD and Ky low-key tanking because that is the only way to get rid of Nash without being blamed for his firing like Kenny.
If you think Kyrie would lose to Boston on purpose you’re crazy 😂
No way, the Celtics are just a better team. You could see that KD and Ky are trying their best
@@ronmexico7256 (Saracasm)
I had hornets +8.5 in the playin game only team i missed in my parlay woulda paid $10k I’m glad they fired him
How much you bet?
@@tainanking $524
@@moneymikemike32 you must win big a lot too if you betting that much lol. I quit betting a lot lol. That's why the payout so high. It seems like you so close but nah it's not close enough. You couldn't cash that out earlier?
@@tainanking i have my share of wins but i lose mostly lol always missing parlays by one or two. And naw it was a printed out ticket not on a app or anything so there’s no buyout
@@moneymikemike32 I was up 4k on the apps I used. then Now total is down to 2k. I left like $50 in my account. That gonna go down to 0 eventually. But I guess it's easier to control when you buy a ticket
Memphis had the 2 pick in 2018 draft, now Memphis 2 in the West Conference.. Charlotte had 3 pick in 2020 .That can be us Charlotte in the Eastern Conference. And Charlotte move up in the 2020 draft lottery
@Honest Westbrick Fan #1 yeah I thought that was the year lol
Memphis has a much better team than Charlotte does right now.
@@ajkendall2748 yea beacause Memphis has better coaching staff and they develop their players quickly. Charlotte had bust after bust in the draft lottery. They were always 8, 9 or 10. Do the research a Charlotte draft picks in the last five years. And see who came after Charlotte draft picks.. SMH ridiculous
@@anthonyjefferson3941 We've certainly had more than our fair share of draft busts. Frank Kaminsky, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist were among the worst. LOL
They need a players coach
Ain't his fault that 4/5 Hornets weren't playing D.
Thank god get a good coach now
Malika lookin exquisite today
Borrego deserved to get fired. There were many times LaMelo should have been on the court and Borrego had him on the bench.
I know an ex-Laker coach, with solid time management and ball control defense. How fortuitous! He even won a championship in the NBA IN the past 5 seasons! As far as puzzle pieces go, this is a corner piece.
You get D’Antoni in their melo gonna shine even more
He definitely didn't like LaMelo but that's the franchise now so....
D’Antoni would turn Lamelo into a Star
He coached ZERO defense, and the Charlotte players just play for Stats
LaMelo Ball is a SUPERSTAR and Borrego refuses to give the key to LaMelo (and you can see that the player isn't happy with it), See, NBA is not just about winning, it is also about building a Franchise that SELLS to the people.
His style is similar to Spurs style which is all about the team, but in this day and age, player branding is very important to keep the sales running; he failed to acknowledge it which may result in LaMelo leaving CHA if not taken action.
Next year, we will see LaMelo more and probably playing around 34 to 36 minutes.
LaMelo is not a superstar yet. He's still learning the pro game. Besides, he made the All-Star team in just his second year. What do you mean by "give the key to LaMelo"? Winning is what sells to the people. If you build a winning franchise, the people will be there.
Bruh why aren’t people talking about how there was also 10 extra games in the past 3 seasons. More games equals more wins. That’s so different than actually have 82 games each season and progressing wins by 10 for 3 seasons straight..
Adjust last year's season to 82 games and the Hornets were basically winning 38 games. A five game improvement really
@@ja4309 exactly, that’s a big difference
I think he did good for what he had I supported him because he's from Albuquerque where I'm from
Mike dantoni would unlock LaMelo BALLSANITY 😂😂
Got rid of coach to keep players happy that will gladly leave in free agency.
Who, for example?
let’s get mark jackson
Good the hornets should’ve been in the playoffs this year
They should hire Phil Jackson
Finally, AMEN!
D antoni perfectly fits on lamelo playstyle run n gun. Need to trade for hayward and a pick for a borderline allstar center or a defensive specialist. Needs to develop bouknight make him a starting SG. make rozier a pure score 6th man but a 28-30 mpg just like herro, clarkson. Keep harrel. Sign a duncan robinson type of player off the bench too.
PG: Lamelo
SG: Bouknight
SF: Bridges
PF: Washington
C: Gobert or Turner
Easier said than done. Will be hard to find a team to take on Hayward given his injury history. I agree with you about Bouknight, but he has got to mature. We have been wishing for a true, starting-caliber Center for years now. They are not easy to come by.
@@ajkendall2748 i guess they would be easy to come by now considering their PG is melo. I think any Bigs can be attracted with that kind of point G.
Unless there is a behind the scenes agreement of Mark Jackson and the Hornets.. this might go as one of the worst coaching firings in history of this game.. and even with Mark Jackson, its still bad.
Lmao I don’t even watch the hornets but it’s well known borrego has been holding melo back
@@handymanwitthatool2787 Your comment is like a parody of a casual fan.
"I dont watch the game but I know whats happening because I heard it somewhere by some other moron that made it up"
You're the biggest clown I've seen in a long time.
@@handymanwitthatool2787 *well rumored
Watch the games and you'll know he's not holding him back
@@handymanwitthatool2787 If you watch the Hornets, you would see this is not the case. LaMelo made the All-Star team this season. That is not indicative of him being held back.
Mj made the right choice. LaMelo was gonna leave if borrego stayed. I'm dreaming here but it'd be awesome if they got coach k.
they improved by 10 wins in 2 straight years, not 3, learn to count Woj
It was also not mentioned that while the hornets may have won 10 more games this year than last year... there was also more games played this year was there not? Not to mention the fact that making you top 2 pick come off the bench and not being injured anymore was also a thing. Respect to the coach and what he has achieved. No slander at all but come on. Take it for what it is and dont gloss over obvious facts. It was time to move on.
Adjust last year's season to 82 games and they would have 38 wins. Basically a 5 game improvement from this season
Every NBA team played 10 more games this year than the previous season. Can't say the reason the Hornets won 10 more games was that they played 10 more games. If that was the case, one could also say they lost 10 more games because they played 10 more games. I believe the purpose of not starting Lamelo right away coming off the injury was to give him time to fully heal. LaMelo still averaged 32+ minutes per game on the season and played in 75 out of 82 games and made the All-Star team in just his second season. I think Borrego did a good job with LaMelo overall.
Fully expecting Mike D’Antoni to be their next coach. Steve Clifford would be a great defensive coach, but he’s not great with young talent.
Hornets have already had Clifford as their coach
@@DeadSezSo but now they have more talent And young pieces that he can groom while still competing.
@@ChrisbeFoSerious could be, he wasn't a bad coach for then first time around
@@ChrisbeFoSerious Did Clifford get fired from Orlando?
@@ajkendall2748they mutually parted ways after Orlando finally committed to a full rebuild.
Happy to see Borrego gone. I don’t really think the players respected him and guys were getting tired of the wishy washy lineups he’d throw out there. His ego is what got him out the door.
Hornets need to go after coaches like Frank Vogel, Bryon Scott,Sam Mitchell,Mike Brown,Sam Cassell,Michael Cooper,Terry Porter, Dwayne Casey......
Out of that list I'm going with Sam.
@@Hooderaw MJ is the Goat but he sucks as an owner of a team how coaches like Coach K, Roy Williams, John Calipari,Jay Wright
@@Hooderaw Sam Cassell would be a great hire. Vogel would be decent too.
@@adryangray8393 3 of those coaches are retired after long careers in college basketball. If they wanted an NBA job I would think they certainly could have had one and not just in Charlotte.
@@ajkendall2748 I know those coaches are retired that's why the owners have money to try to get whatever coach that's best for their team
Pistons don't get him
Malika, if you see this. You’re such a baddie.
He didn’t click with Melo had horrible rotations
Steve Nash next if the nets get swept
Melo needs to workout with Zo on defense this off season
call me casual, I didn't even know his name
Jordan ain't sleeping fellows.
Bring Mark Jackson to the Charlotte Hornets
Should get Scottie Pippen a coaching job Jordan.
but players whine about the lack of loyalty, hm?
I feel sorry for this guy they're trying to bring in him in as the Lakers new coach and he can't get out of a play-in game😢
Gordon Hayward got injured reading these comments.
Malika is so fine
He needed to go. They have the talent. He was routinely getting out coached when it mattered most. Also had the stretch of games where we lost 9/10 and went from the 4 seed to the 9 seed.
True, but to be fair, we also had players out during that stretch so I would not put that all on Borrego. Who would you like to see as the next coach?
@@ajkendall2748 I truly don't think borrego was terrible. It's more about him being exposed when the time matters than anything. Just as much as I felt like we could never truly compete rolling out mason plumlee as our STARTING center, I also felt like Borrego was a liability if the game was close down the stretch or we had any less than ideal roster availability. I'm not as big on names as I am on outcomes. We need a coach who can stay ahead of the chess board with the pieces we have.
This team needs frank vogel
Wishing you the best of luck JB
Nah he can kick rocks
Bad coach
@@loveofmangos001 you can kick rocks
They fired oo7?
What growth. Melo is a star
Imagine waking up and seeing everyone saying FIRED ! lol..JB deserves to be fired. He should of been fired sooner lol
This has to to with the treatment of lamelo ball ... he was constantly undermining the kids talent
Frank Vogel to Charlotte!
Decent coach but I didn’t like the way he played the young players especially lamelo
the zone defense was trash
lamelo would average a triple double under d'antoni but wont win anything
You..the fans over there in America..are very quick on the trigger i see. He should get at least one more year to see if he can make any moves this summer and achieve something in the playoffs. Who are you getting that make you so sure THIS was the right decision for the team?!?
They increased wins in the last two years because they gained a super star Lamelo BIG BALLER. Love how they skip over that
All those bad seasons and lottery picks and all they ever got right is ball the problem is ownership not getting good scouting or not listening to them because the goat has to let people do their jobs
Good move he needs to go, the Hornets play zero defense! you can't win if you can't get stops. The playoffs are about getting key stops.
they could get vogel
Should of fired the GM who rushed to win instead of being patience with lamelo.
"rushed to win"? What do you mean by this? Also, LaMelo is coming along nicely and even made the All-Star team this year. The Hornets are not perfect but they have done a good job with LaMelo, Bridges, Washington, and others.
@@ajkendall2748 rush to win …. They stretch batum to sign Hayward instead of taking that cap space and taking on negative contracts + assets. With Hayward they were average. Made play in 2 years in a row. Think if they let lamelo get the keys from day 1. Few extra loses. Think if they had a top 5 pick last year and not 11 to pick James bouknight and if they had a top 5 pick again this year. Much brighter future. Plus they traded this years pick for Kai jones who couldn’t get on the floor
Hire Lavar Ball
Gordon Hayward need to be traded
When are they gonna fire Jordan for putting this team together?
Maybe after he puts this team together? While he has ultimate veto power, he did not make all of the personnel decisions. Besides, MJ owns the team. He cannot be "fired". 😉
@@ajkendall2748 he can be voted out
@@Chibbery05 Nah. He owns a controlling stake. He can't be voted out because he owns more of the team than the minority owners.