Smashing Pumpkins - Jellybelly REACTION & REVIEW! FIRST TIME HEARING!

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  • @1bossdj
    @1bossdj 2 роки тому +40

    Jimmy Chamberlain is a madman on this track.

  • @kb_78
    @kb_78 2 роки тому +53

    Zero, Bodies, Where Boys Fear To Tread, X.Y.U., Everlasting Gaze, Heavy Metal Machine…so many hard progressive rock songs. They are so diverse. So underrated.

    • @LudvikM
      @LudvikM 2 роки тому +12

      The intro to Where Boys Fear to Tread is still one of the coolest things I've ever heard.

    • @GhostlyEcheveria
      @GhostlyEcheveria 2 роки тому +4

      Bodies is probably one of my favorite songs one the entire album. And thru the eyes of Ruby.

    • @glumOr
      @glumOr 2 роки тому +7

      "An Ode To No One" too, one of my favorite.

    • @wozja
      @wozja Рік тому

      @@glumOrhell yea love the chaotic solo in that track

    • @lukefenwick1607
      @lukefenwick1607 5 місяців тому

      Geek USA too

  • @MovedbyTruth
    @MovedbyTruth 2 роки тому +27

    The Smashing Pumpkins hit their peak with this album (Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness). It *IS* their magnum opus. You owe it to yourself to hear this album in it's entirety. It is often called the greatest double album of all time. Some argue it's Pink Floyd's The Wall, but it's tough to say. Two different styles, two different eras. But the fact that those are the two that are held up at such a great height should tell you something about what an album Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is.

    • @brianphilippoi349
      @brianphilippoi349 Рік тому +1

      The placement of this just after "Tonight, Tonight" and "Tales of a Scorched Earth" after "1979" is absolutely brilliant. MCIS a tasting menu full of twists and turns, always pleasing to the ears. Or mine at least.

  • @colin8007
    @colin8007 2 роки тому +17

    the fact that this song is preceded by the album opener (a piano instrumental) and Tonite, Tonite, makes the aggressive intro even better

  • @COLTRONNN
    @COLTRONNN 2 роки тому +20

    this song is pumpkins at their PEAK powers. this song is pure rock power.

  • @thetheRedundant
    @thetheRedundant 2 роки тому +48

    Billy initially wanted this to be the album’s lead single back in ‘95, but people around him convinced him to go with “Bullet With Butterfly Wings” instead.

    • @ME-xj9dy
      @ME-xj9dy Рік тому +9

      This one’s more badass

    • @gurudesu_
      @gurudesu_ Рік тому +9

      I like this song better but Bullet With Butterfly Wings is probably easier on mainstream ears.

    • @iggtastic
      @iggtastic 5 місяців тому +1

      I think Bullet was a good choice. It's very representative of the Pumpkins' work, very dynamic, hardcore, and playful. Jellybelly is awesome but it's a lot more straightforward.

    • @bigbowlowrong4694
      @bigbowlowrong4694 5 місяців тому +1

      To be fair the people around him were right. I love Jellybelly but Bullet With Butterfly Wings is definitely more radio-friendly and has more of a traditional rock “hook”.

    • @kristopherryanwatson
      @kristopherryanwatson 4 місяці тому

      Jellybelly is too extreme to be a single. sounding too metal for mainstream ears.
      Bullet has a catchy chorus and some great rock riffs. it was perfect for the launch of Mellon Collie.

  • @douglasadcock549
    @douglasadcock549 2 роки тому +19

    Oh, you just wait until you or someone requests you to hear "The Everlasting Gaze". I'm just glad there's an upper tier member throwing you these requests for SP. Thank you!

    • @Andrew-cc4vk
      @Andrew-cc4vk 2 роки тому +1

      Such a killer song

    • @douglasadcock549
      @douglasadcock549 2 роки тому

      @@Andrew-cc4vk but to really appreciate it you gotta see the music video

  • @GhostlyEcheveria
    @GhostlyEcheveria 2 роки тому +7

    This song was not a single. This album is a journey. You have to listen to the entire album to understand the vision. This is the album that shaped my entire adolescence. The Pumpkins are one of the most underrated bands around. They never got the credit they deserved.

  • @michaelkerdock4076
    @michaelkerdock4076 2 роки тому +6

    Anyone who is surprised the pumpkins sound like this haven’t listened to much of them..

    • @THEDavidHeretic
      @THEDavidHeretic  2 роки тому +10

      Until I started doing reactions to them, I honestly never listened to them at all. One of the great benefits of doing this channel is it's forcing me to listen to bands I've never given a chance (i.e. Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins) as well as discovering bands I've never even heard of before (LOVEBITES, Band-Maid, Demon Hunter, Muse).

  • @blakemeads9225
    @blakemeads9225 Рік тому +3

    This song follows a piano/orchestra intro and a pretty mellow ballad song, so when you listen to it in context to the album, that intro smacks you in the face 😂 That album is my personal favorite album by the Smashing Pumpkins. It’s a total fucking roller coaster.

  • @neilanadams5173
    @neilanadams5173 2 роки тому +3

    Songs a 12. Genre bending, drumming insanity. Pop metal alternative and punk all in one. Madness. Great take, thanks

  • @paulolapa3040
    @paulolapa3040 2 роки тому +20

    This one is from their third album "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" (1995), the follower of the one you've been reacting, "Siamese Dream" (1993).
    I think you're gonna dig this album. It's more your cup of tea. It's not as "alternative" as the previous.
    The song "Jellybelly" was not released as a single, so it was not a "hit" by itself. But all the SP fans love it.
    The album has 28 tracks. It would be difficult to release 28 singles, because all the songs are great 😄
    Nice review!

    • @Azreale
      @Azreale Рік тому

      I love Jellybelly, XYU, Bodies, Ode to no one, I mean being a hard-core pumpkin fan i feel bias about my fave band of all time! The hits they release were just okay than the real hits! Mayonaise is the Pumpkins' greatest of all time! I mean fans would agree with me there?!

    • @paulolapa3040
      @paulolapa3040 Рік тому

      @@Azreale For me, Mayonaise is my "Siamese Dream" favorite song. But the best SP song ever ... I just can't point one out

  • @LudvikM
    @LudvikM 2 роки тому +27

    If I'm not mistaken, Billy said once something like "everyone hates Jellybelly". Well, not me, and apparently not Dave either.
    The problem (?) for some people is that Mellon Collie is so monumental and diverse that you can enjoy it just fine after excluding the hardest, heaviest tracks, such as this one, X.Y.U., An Ode to No One (F.Y.) or Tales of a Scorched Earth.
    Also, Jellybelly is next to Tonight, Tonight on the 1st CD, and the change of tone and sound is BRUTAL.. I can understand that, for some people who loves Tonight, Tonight, Jellybelly may feel a little like a punch in the face. But what a great punch!

    • @paulolapa3040
      @paulolapa3040 2 роки тому +3

      I never heard any metal song with the anger that those songs have: X.Y.U., Fuck You (An Ode to No One) and Tales of a Scorched Earth.

    • @williambartholmey5946
      @williambartholmey5946 2 роки тому +3

      Bodies was always my favorite from this album. As loud as Jellybelly but more melodic, or at least I prefer the melody.

    • @THEDEEPDIVE
      @THEDEEPDIVE 2 роки тому +1

      my cohost didn't dig Jellybelly.. shrug.

    • @LudvikM
      @LudvikM 2 роки тому

      @@THEDEEPDIVE Then again, and if I recall it correctly, he didn't dig many of the other songs either, did he? :)

    • @THEDEEPDIVE
      @THEDEEPDIVE 2 роки тому

      @@LudvikM of the 28 episodes we have done on the pumpkins he has only not liked Jellybelly and was lukewarm on Snail and SIva and where the boys fear to tread.. Was surprised how much he enjoyed the pisces songs in particular.

  • @finncallahan8994
    @finncallahan8994 2 роки тому +3

    When the Pumpkins go drop Db they mean business. My favorite aspect of this song is how the chorus goes from “never” to “forever” towards the end

  • @stratyocasterson9237
    @stratyocasterson9237 Рік тому +2

    I break the speed limit in my car to this song all the time.

  • @LiesThatBind
    @LiesThatBind 2 роки тому +8

    You've been reacting mostly to tracks from Siamese Dream, so yeah Mellon Collie era Smashing Pumpkins is different. More aggressive and adventurous (tonight, tonight is a fine example). Lots of diversity off that album which I think is more alternative and less shoegazy/fuzzy.

  • @kristopherryanwatson
    @kristopherryanwatson 4 місяці тому

    one of my favorite of their heavier songs ever.that ending with all those crazy effects is just out of control. great review, glad you liked this song of there.
    Also, really happy that they're playing Jelly belly on their current tour. Kiki Wong is a fantastic guitarist. she is a great addition to the band. she can freaking play with the best of guitarists any day. friends of mine saw them in the UK a couple weeks back in June. said they sound better than ever live.

  • @scullie69
    @scullie69 2 роки тому +3

    One of the greatest SP albums. You can forget about it for yrs and then drop it crank it up and remember why it’s so good.

  • @yourstruly9978
    @yourstruly9978 2 роки тому +4

    Billy said he wanted this song for a single but the label picked "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" instead. His words not mine.

  • @jukeofearl
    @jukeofearl 2 роки тому +3

    It was not a single. But it definitely should have been.

  • @jaimeflor4181
    @jaimeflor4181 4 місяці тому

    I’m surprised I missed this 1! Jellybelly wasn’t a radio hit, but it was a favorite amongst fans and drummers. The songwriting & the drum intro/outro were my favorites. The bridge too, how it builds up chromatically, does something similar to the verses, then switches things up and eventually goes to the chorus and outro.

  • @sydIRISH
    @sydIRISH Рік тому +1

    It wasnt a single, but it was always one of my favorites

  • @heyskipj
    @heyskipj 2 роки тому +9

    It’s hard to put a pin in smashing pumpkins. It’s kind of like they’re too pop to be shoegazer. Too gazer to be metal. Too metal to be grunge. Too grunge to be pop. Then too Tonight, Tonight… Then too Billy’s vocals. It’s a niche.

    • @colin8007
      @colin8007 2 роки тому +3

      great comment. i view them as an aggressive shoegaze band, courtesy of the Black Sabbath influence. but with nearly zero punk influence, which distinguished them from the grunge acts of the time.

    • @COLTRONNN
      @COLTRONNN 2 роки тому +3

      i always saw the pumpkins on a tiny island by themselves. billys vocals make them sound like nobody else. for better or for worse they are one of the only huge bands with THAT unique of a vocal.

  • @AdamF90
    @AdamF90 2 роки тому +2

    Mellon Collie was the SP album I grew up with so I was accustomed to the raw sound of this album before I got into their other stuff and it’s the album that got me into drumming

  • @HominidInterneticus
    @HominidInterneticus 2 роки тому +4

    This was a double album if I remember correctly. And it's all over the place genre-wise. A lot decent songs in it, and very few duds for that amount of creative output. It's probably the record company had a hard time promoting most of it. So they had to pick the ones they felt were going to be a hit. My guess is they had to pick the ones that showed the band's musical range. One of the singles (1979) sounded the cure'ish, the other had an orchestra backing, and about two were hard hitting in the same vein as this one you're reacting to. Btw, my nephews like this band far more than I do. And I think it's interesting considering how devoid of guitars modern music is. My youngest nephew picked up the guitar because of this band. The funny thing is they have no conception how popular they were. And they come to me wide eye asking me if I knew of them. As if a gen-xr had a choice not to. They were way overplayed on alt-radio and mtv.

  • @GeranIsbester
    @GeranIsbester 2 роки тому +4

    I believe there was an intention for this to be the lead off single for a long time during the recording of the album but eventually got sidelined for Bullet With Butterfly Wings as the lead single then it just never happened

  • @mouradb8030
    @mouradb8030 2 роки тому +2

    Very good choice and the review also. I'm happy that David like one smashing pumpkins song! Si tu aimes les musiques agressives, i recommand you X.Y.U, an ode to no one, bodies, Pissant, Hello Kitty Kat, Siva, i am one, the everlasting gaze, silverfuck...

  • @amassaic
    @amassaic 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks DH great review. Believe it or not, Smashing Pumpkins def has some hard hitting bangers. I think you reviewed a few (Quiet, Geek USA) but maybe forgot.
    I’ll be requesting more of them - probably Bodies and Through the Eyes of Ruby next.
    That said, JellyBelly wasn’t a single but definitely among the pantheon of beloved SP songs with the die hards (Mayonnaise, Geek USA, Ode to no One, Siva, being some of the others).
    Realistically, 1995-96 this wouldn’t be a hit single. It’s catchy but too heavy for the mainstream - especially coming off a double album with a plethora of very catchy tracks that everyone knows like 1979, Tonight Tonight, Muzzle, and Bullet with Butterfly Wings

    • @COLTRONNN
      @COLTRONNN 2 роки тому +1

      thank you for all your review requests. love watching David react to the pumpkins. cant wait for him to hear Bodies LOL

    • @ryuujin9573
      @ryuujin9573 2 роки тому +1

      Which version of Ruby would you choose - studio or Brixton Academy? I think the live version would hit home more with David.

    • @COLTRONNN
      @COLTRONNN 2 роки тому

      @@ryuujin9573 DUDE if only he saw JELLYBELLY from Brixton. or maybe SILVERFUCK london 1993

    • @ryuujin9573
      @ryuujin9573 2 роки тому

      @@COLTRONNN Silverfuck London would be great reaction material.

    • @amassaic
      @amassaic 2 роки тому +3

      @@COLTRONNN Ruby at Brixton I think is too sloppy and DH will penalize. IMO SP doesn’t really translate as well live vs the recordings…especially Billy’s voice.
      Also knowing David, he wouldn’t be able to handle the long interlude in Silverfuck lol. Trust me, I want to request that but I already know he’d bitch about it and penalize it. He berated Soma because it started mellow and ripped Hummer because it ended mellow lol.

  • @briansolo
    @briansolo 4 місяці тому

    5:50 it's interesting that you say that, because the band wanted this to be the lead single for this album. A guy they trusted at the record company thought otherwise, and the 5 songs they released as singles were all HUGE successes.

  • @ericcollette5577
    @ericcollette5577 Рік тому

    The uniqueness of Smashing Pumpkins along with how talented they are as musicians is what makes them great! The same with Korn, particularly earlier Korn.

  • @cnw8891
    @cnw8891 2 роки тому +1

    During my freshman year of high school (98-99), a kid had gotten into gangsta rap and sold me his Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness CDs for $10. I was blown away. Within a week, Smashing Pumpkins had become my 2nd favorite band (RHCP). Amazing double album.

  • @flightgravity7483
    @flightgravity7483 2 роки тому +4

    Has anyone requested Fuck You (An Ode to No One) yet? Because that one might hit you pretty hard too.

    • @THEDavidHeretic
      @THEDavidHeretic  2 роки тому

      I do not see that one in the que, so no one has made it an official request yet.

    • @leob4403
      @leob4403 Рік тому +1

      ​@@THEDavidHeretic you should do the live version of an ode to one (metro chicago 2000 farewell show) its even more hard hitting than the original!

  • @mallman4129
    @mallman4129 2 роки тому +1

    This is one that flies under the radar. It was not a single. Don’t believe they really perform it live (recently anyways). And if for not being really early in the double album, would most likely be even more forgotten. That’s a shame because it’s definitely a great track. All SP fans love it. Great reaction!

  • @jakesgr8sakiorjoe58
    @jakesgr8sakiorjoe58 2 роки тому +1

    That’s actually my favorite smashing pumpkins song. Wasn’t even a single. I love a lot of their other stuff but that beginning and end are straight up hard! The middle is great too.

  • @apparentlynot1stLeonchubbs
    @apparentlynot1stLeonchubbs 2 роки тому +4

    Just stumbled into your part of UA-cam.. Not sure if it's your style or not, but if you're a fan of guitar solos, EPIC guitar solos, there's a gem off their B sides album, Pisces Iscariot, called Starla. That song made me buy a guitar..had no choice lol

    • @GhostlyEcheveria
      @GhostlyEcheveria 2 роки тому +2

      I second this. Starla is a masterpiece.

    • @jaimeflor4181
      @jaimeflor4181 4 місяці тому +1

      @@apparentlynot1stLeonchubbs Starla made me buy a phaser and whatever else effects I thought I heard in the guitar solo. There’s so many overlapping guitar leads it’s insane! Pisces Iscariot in general was my go to during my psychedelic phase.

  • @RSfandude
    @RSfandude 2 роки тому

    Glad u liked this one, great reaction as always David 🤘

  • @studioredband2686
    @studioredband2686 2 роки тому

    jellybelly was supposed to be the first single off of mcis but the studio had them go with bullet with butterfly wings instead♡ great video ! subscribed..rocket is a great one too

  • @davidebonaveri1360
    @davidebonaveri1360 2 роки тому +2

    You are ready for something from Gish album like Siva or Bury me!

  • @Andrew-cc4vk
    @Andrew-cc4vk 2 роки тому +2

    Check out Tarantula. It's from their later work. It's a banger.

  • @deckofcards87
    @deckofcards87 Рік тому

    Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness has some of the best, if not the best rockers from the Smashing Pumpkins. James Iha is let off his leash and goes harder than on previous albums. The 'Bullet With Butterfly Wings' riff is obviously iconic, 'Tales Of A Scorched Earth' and 'X.Y.U.' are phenomenal stompers.

  • @nomad123ui
    @nomad123ui 3 місяці тому

    Heard this song live in Glasgow 2024 and was so good and for jimmy age 60 billy 57 and James iha 56 they can still do hard rock with precision

  • @AdamF90
    @AdamF90 2 роки тому +1

    This song was sandwiched in between Tonight, Tonight and Zero and it’s my favorite of the three

  • @MrK-wu7ci
    @MrK-wu7ci 2 роки тому

    Soundgarden - Superunknown
    Based around Black Sabbath's Paranoid riff.
    Soundgarden - Black Rain

  • @mitchbuchannon6637
    @mitchbuchannon6637 2 роки тому +1

    Always thought this sounded like Soundgarden with billy singing, could just be the riff

  • @terp4life00
    @terp4life00 2 роки тому

    I enjoyed this review of an underrated Pumpkins song. I’ve not heard this in a while so it’s a nice trip down memory lane.
    I don’t know if you’ve checked out Deftones yet. I’d recommend My Own Summer (shove it), Be Quiet and Drive (far away), Bored, Korea, Digital Bath, Passenger and their most famous song Change (In the house of flies).

  • @BPEJS24-7
    @BPEJS24-7 2 роки тому +3

    Honestly, I just wanted to hear you say the title.. LOL!

  • @wyeth1023
    @wyeth1023 4 місяці тому

    man, that whole album was a masterpiece

  • @dustingd1
    @dustingd1 Рік тому

    JELLYBELLY is pure rock fire

  • @adamcummings1862
    @adamcummings1862 2 роки тому

    It was not released as one of the singles from the album. Hidden Gem

  • @alejandrodelatorre6664
    @alejandrodelatorre6664 Рік тому

    Admit it, you're starting to love the Smashing Pumpkins, if not, let their magic catch you forever.

  • @jakeenan
    @jakeenan 2 роки тому

    Drummer Jimmy Chamberlain said that this is their most difficult song to play live and nail it on the button. He said only when they are on their absolute A game will they include it in the Set.

  • @jonathandufern7421
    @jonathandufern7421 2 роки тому +9

    Check out the song X.Y.U. From this album. It’s so sludge/ doom yet heavy metal as heck. I’m not a fan of the band but this album is soooo amazing and their Opus. They never did anything better and is one of my favorite 90s alternative albums

    • @cattlecrossing458
      @cattlecrossing458 2 роки тому +2

      X.Y.U. slaps. Probably my favorite off this album

    • @rickylsmalls
      @rickylsmalls 2 роки тому +3

      Yes, but do this live version.
      ua-cam.com/video/AS0HrXHkWA4/v-deo.html

    • @LudvikM
      @LudvikM 2 роки тому +1

      Yes! X.Y.U. would be at the very least surprising to David.
      On the other hand, Tales of a Scorched Earth would probably be too much for him. The vocals, mainly.

    • @paulolapa3040
      @paulolapa3040 2 роки тому

      @@LudvikM Just what I thought too. David will hate the vocals on "Tales of a Scorched Earth" 😁

  • @grungetea
    @grungetea 2 роки тому +2

    Everlasting Gaze is kinda similar.

  • @ErnestRamos
    @ErnestRamos 2 роки тому +3

    Ah Jellybelly.... Got to watch this. Such a badly mixed track IMO that pretty much hides how awesome all the underlying instruments were....
    Off to start the review then!

    • @ErnestRamos
      @ErnestRamos 2 роки тому

      Wonderful review as always!
      On this album, I'd think Tonight Tonight, Bullet With Butterfly Wings and Zero were the hits. Jellybelly was among my favorites though. I think it didn't become a hit because the song back in its original release had horrible mixing, and would probably not sound good in radio.
      I'm a big Jimmy Chamberlin fan and this and An Ode To No One were the highlights of this disc for me. Tonight Tonight was also a fun one (very different sounding) while Zero and Bullet With Butterfly Wings was something every drummer should know back in my high school days.

    • @RSfandude
      @RSfandude 2 роки тому

      Wish they do a proper remaster

    • @george9822
      @george9822 2 роки тому

      I agree. It sounds too compressed

  • @chaddubois8164
    @chaddubois8164 5 місяців тому

    What a fuckin drummer.

  • @andysanchez174
    @andysanchez174 6 місяців тому

    Never before have 50 guitar tracks on top of each other sounded better

  • @iuiijh
    @iuiijh 2 роки тому +1

    Should try "tale of schorched tale.." from the same album..

  • @ZzKevZz
    @ZzKevZz 2 роки тому +3

    I liked "Bodies" better than this song.

  • @Torthrodhel
    @Torthrodhel 2 роки тому

    Yeah that's the good stuff! Best song off Mellon Collie.

  • @pabloibarra1949
    @pabloibarra1949 Рік тому

    David , I would like to know what is your opinion of Adore album song "pug" if you want. Thanks

    • @THEDavidHeretic
      @THEDavidHeretic  Рік тому +1

      I've never heard it, so I have no opinion.

    • @pabloibarra1949
      @pabloibarra1949 Рік тому

      This album was harshly criticized but I think it's one of the best of them, it's not hard rock but it has very good songs, and the one I named you is one of them, if you listen to it and talk about it, it would be interesting, even if it's one harsh criticism. thank you

  • @johnniea4684
    @johnniea4684 10 місяців тому

    Was considered for a single iirc, but never was. Very rarely played live btw, which is strange as pretty much every Pumpkins fan really rates the song.

  • @Ghost-dj9kn
    @Ghost-dj9kn 2 роки тому

    Watch: THE END IS THE BEGINNING IS THE END please and thank you.

  • @meowtattoo7902
    @meowtattoo7902 2 роки тому

    pisces iscariot album of the smashing pumpkins is also good

  • @endocry
    @endocry 8 місяців тому

    If you've listened to SP enough, you'd recognize just the music as SP, particularly Jimmy's drumming.

  • @judgementatr0113
    @judgementatr0113 2 роки тому

    You need to listen to some of their hits to better familiarize yourself with their sound. I.e. 1979 bullet with butterfly wings and today.

  • @hardcorechristopher9174
    @hardcorechristopher9174 2 роки тому

    Good

  • @studioredband2686
    @studioredband2686 2 роки тому

    was that why from cobra1986?

  • @matthewbotha7845
    @matthewbotha7845 2 роки тому

    Good song, but no it was not one of their hits.
    Suggestion off Mellon Collie: Where Boys Fear To Tread

  • @CC-oi9mc
    @CC-oi9mc 2 роки тому

    Melon collie bugs me, I think the songwriting is second to none but I HATE the way this album is mixed, it sounds like it’s playing from a cassette tape no matter what lol 🥲

  • @toothybj
    @toothybj 2 роки тому

    Sadly, no, this song wasn’t a hit. It wasn’t even a single. I really like it as well though.
    They had 28 songs on that double album, most of which were very good, but only had a few singles…..Tonight tonight, Bullet with Butterfly wings, Zero, Thirty-three and 1979, so 5 total…

  • @nimaside
    @nimaside 2 роки тому

    Nope, not a radio hit at all. Great song though!

  • @dustingd1
    @dustingd1 Рік тому

    listen to GISH man

  • @iridescent6685
    @iridescent6685 2 роки тому

    Jellybelly would never have been a hit, cause hits cant do stuff like completely submerging the vocals.