My Dad owned a deli outside of Kingston near 50 years ago and had a friend named Tony Carpino. He claimed to have concocted this recipe that he actually sold or (bartered) the process. LOL! My Dad got this recipe from him for his deli. I remember making this in the kitchen (mincing the hotdogs). I'm sure he's the one who gave the recipe to Dallas Hot Weiners as well years ago. Thanks for the memories!
I lived in Kingston from ‘57 to ‘66 and used to get Texas Hot Wieners at the Anchorage Inn in Eddyville on the Rondout Creek. A big guy names Jim used to run the place back then, and every so often he’d have Texas Red Hots on the menu. I don’t think that they were a regular item…just a special. Man, they were GOOOOOD!!!
Hey Tom. great video. Being from Buffalo NY you have the recipe Almost perfect. The spices are spot on but the sauce itself is rendered down to be much thicker to almost a chili consistency. also many places that make this add ground beef. just an FYI.
+Bubba Tricks I've had comments from others that swear coffee is one of the secret ingredients. I haven't tried that but I might just have to now. Thanks.
i know this is an old video and you are proabably not gonna read it. but why do you use corn starch instead of flour? flour works way better to thicken sauce
***** I frequented Uncle George's in the 70s and I loved his hot dog sauce very much. When he passed away, and Dallas Hot Whiners took over, I thought I would never enjoy another. I was wrong. The recipes are very similar, although I remember Uncle George's being a little spicier. I went to Dallas Hot Wieners the other day (There are now 4 restaurants, 3 in Kingston and 1 in Saugerties), and unbelievably I devoured 8 of those beauties. Yum Yum. I'm sorry you missed out on the Uncle George's experience, however, Dallas Hot Wieners is just as good. "I'll have 4 on 2, please."
I grew up in South Philadelphia and in my neighborhood we had a place that sold Texas Weniers they were so good. Always wanted to know how they made the sauce. Thank you for sharing ❤ 😊
Only thing. When I heard this gentleman chew his food, I had to throw off my ear pods. 🤣. I’m sorry. It’s A Pet peeve of mine. Thanks again for the great recipe.
Well, I gotta tell ya I tried it, and I much preferred using the same spices (with the addition of a little brown sugar) in ground beef, instead of the cut-up hot dogs. Still has the great spicy flavor, but not quite so runny and sloppy.
I have been looking for this recipe for years. I lived in southwestern NY. #1 place was "Texas Lunch" (aka: Monkey House) in North East PA, second was Johnny's in Jamestown, NY. i made the sauce and it close enough to bring back a lot of great memories, thanks Tom !!
+Victoria Best That is awesome, many folks have tried it and said the same thing. I make it for my wife from time to time when she is homesick for upstate NY.
I'm gonna make some of that Tom! Man I could eat about 6 of those right now! Damn they looked good! That sauce should freeze well too, I would think? I don't add many recipes to my favorites, but this one just went in :D
Tom I made the sauce several months ago and my family loved them. We are from Danbury, Ct where we used to get them at JK's Texas Hot Wiener and they tasted identical. Great recipe! i am making a batch as I am writing this.
Hi Tom, well OMG I can’t thank you enough! I’ve lived in Florida for many years now but after tasting the sauce I was transported right back to Kingston! It’s absolutely spot on! The only problem is I’m going to be eating far too many hotdogs now!
Thanks so much, I understand how you feel. We were the same after moving to Texas 25 years ago and finding there is no such thing as Texas Hot Wiener sauce here.
A great way I’ve found to prepare the onions is to very finely chop them in the mini chopper, dump them on to a kitchen towel or a piece of cheese cloth and squeeze the living bejezuz out of them to dry them out and then voilà! The perfect Dallas hot wieners onions!
I'm from the Kingston area but I live by St Louis now. I'm making a pot for our party tomorrow. I'm modifying it though due to allergies. My wife has alpha gal syndrome and cannot have mammal products, and I can't have cinnamon. Using Applegate Farms Turkey Dogs and ground chicken. I also pureed the garlic and onions and fried them with the chicken. I'll let you know how they turn out.
Your making this too frigging complicated. The greeks that started the coney island red hots never went to the trouble that you are going to. It was a SIMPLE recipe for the sauce. Very cheap and tasty. Maybe apound of ground beef , beef bollion and some spices , lots of water VERY Little little spices because they couldn't afford them. Watered down mustard and away you went. Don't try to complicate these recipies. They were very simple at best.
Have you ever had a hot wiener from Dallas Hot Wiener's in Kingston NY? I agree that most sauces are very simple with few ingredients but I based this one on a lot of research and it's as close as you can come to the ones served in the restaurant. I have had many people over the years make this sauce and thank me for transporting them back to Kingston and Dallas Hot Wiener's.
We loved Dallas Hot wieners, I had to come up with a way to make them here in Texas. If I remember correctly the sauce is a bit runny, it's not a chili dog. If you try making let me know what you think, it's as close as we can get to a real hot wiener sauce.
Whoa, those dogs look good. I think I might mix together the spices and save the mix in a jar, then bring out enough to make, say, two ground-up dogs worth at a time. I would think that big pot of sauce would serve up 50 or so dogs, easily. They remind me of the Cincinnati style dogs but with hot dog sauce rather than ground beef. Anyway, great job. I'll give them a try when I get my weight back down from my latest round of gluttony. Rick
love the runny sauce because they seem to stay hot on your hot dog. Others made with masa flour gets cold and clumpy. Well definitely give it a shot. Only true cost are the hotdogs ,
I'm originally from wny where we have Johnny's and Aj's ( now Michael's) Texas hots...I've moved to fla and really missed grub from home, after years of looking for a copy cat recipe I stumbled on this video and it's close! I've spent the last few months tweaking this recipe and finally have it dialed in to taste like home and figured out why this is just a hair different and how to fix it. The cornstarch is the wrong thickening agent, it's fine when you first make the sauce the texture and thickness is perfect however once it gets cold either in the fridge or frozen the consistency isn't right and it doesn't reheat right and go back to the thin gel consistency it should have, it stays to thick and lumpy due to the cornstarch. Plain gelatin is the way to go for the thickener when Johnny's/Ajs sauce is cold it's like jello, when it's reheated it melts back to the perfect thin gel consistency this sauce should have. There also isn't any thyme in it and the seasoning measurements are a bit off, at least for our area of wny . I also substitute a cup or 2 of water for strong black coffee it does help the flavor and color. The recipe in this video is way to hot in my opinion, there should only be a little heat on the back end that hits you in the back of your throat rather than the stinging/burning of your lips and tongue.. jamestown area texas hots don't burn... though I get that other areas of wny have their own flavor profile of this sauce so it's going to vary by area and personal taste... Anyway ty for the base recipe, now I can have a taste of home any time the craving hits me !
Tom , I cut the recipe in half and it turns out perfect it was delicious thank you for this recipe I'm from New Jersey and this tastes almost like some recipe that I had there in Elizabeth New Jersey
I was raised in Elizabeth, NJ and Georges Hot dog sauce was the greatest. Been using this recipe and its very close and excellent.. Would pay cash for Georges recipe. We used to buy it from there by the gallon. Thanks for your recipe. Also fyi.. Georges hot dogs were Best Hot dogs from Newark, NJ. , much better that Nathans, Sabretts are also better.
I am def going to give this a whirl - I live in the Kingston NY area and am a big fan of Dallas Hot Wieners and their sauce. (BTW - its great on Cheeseburgers also) I will post my results. Cant wait! Thanks for taking the time to post.
Making your sauce for the umpteenth time today Tom! Just wanted to say thank you again! My whole family just loves this recipe! Takes me right back to Kingston, Woodstock, Saugerties!
The Goumas family started the business known as Texas Hot Weiners. Decades ago they sold it to the current owners who renamed it Dallas Hot Weiners. The original owners were friends of my family... we have the Goumas recipe. Without giving it up entirely, the "cheap" hotdogs (code for fatty) are boiled and the water used to boil them is used to make the sauce. After boiling the hot dogs the original recipe uses chopped onion and garlic that are browned in oil... and yes, chopped hot dogs are a key ingredient. I think the original sauce is a bit thicker than yours but that it tough to judge on video. A steamer is used to keep the hot dogs warm at the front of the store but they were actually boiled in the kitchen. I'm curious to try your recipe and compare it to the original as there are clearly differences but yours looks great too -- for one thing, not having to chop onions for the sauce would save me some tears. LOL
That has to be the oddest hot dog sauce I have EVER seen. And I would love to know who gave these a "Texas" or "Dallas" name?? Being from Texas and living in Dallas, I assure you that you will never find something like that here :O
I know, there is nothing Texas about them. One theory is because the recipe calls for chili powder. You find these all over the north east. They are tasty though.
I'd add some water to the food processor to help with the hot dog blending. I'd use less water because it's just going to be boiled off and take a lot longer with no real benefit other than a big electric or gas bill. I think the really cheap greeker/texas hot dog places don't even use hot dogs in the sauce. I'm used to the really cheap hot dog places in Bethlehem, PA.
Tom, I have worked this sauce for many years also. My grand father and uncle both worked at Texas wieners in altoona pa. They would never divulge the recipe but they would say if we were right ! The history of texas wieners begins early and thru the depression very important to remember they wasted nothing ! The left over hod dogs where used that's absolutely correct. The other thing Texas wieners was known for was coffee and buffalo burgers (boiled hamburgers). You have 6 cups of water in your recipe - substitute some of the water with black coffee! The coffee is what gives the sauce the color and adds just a bit of bitterness or reduces the sweetness. Black Coffee was a confirmed ingredient by both my grand father and uncle. Buffalo burgers surely made it into the ground hot dog sauce but never confirmed.
Tom, I must admit, this is the first recipe I came across that used ground up hot dogs with no hamburger meat. Up in Flint, Michigan they add the ground hot dogs to their beef for their famous chili sauce. I have my own Chili Sauce recipe, but I will have to make a batch of this right here to try it out. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, that is interesting to hear that they use ground hot dogs as well as ground beef. Rus over at SmokeyRibs used my sauce as a base and added ground beef. His might be closer to what you have in Flint.
Tom, this looks great. There is a place in Rochester NY that has these dogs /sausages called White Hots, and they put a similar sauce on them, and down here Char Hut has a similar sauce. And now I can't decide if I want to replicate your recipe or Tweak it up''My Way" Either way I love a good hot dog and these look like a winner wiener. Cheers!
This sauce is absolutely amazing. It’s so inspiring you take this sauce and mix it with a hotdog stand in a calm in town and you’ve got extravagance and brilliance.
The actual true 'weiner' the dog itself is made in RI, very few stares allow it because of fat content, comes in 5' roll and cut, originated in RI, was big then in NY, it's more of a Greek meat sauce, even in RI where sell real deal is called NY system hot weiners lol, NY has more visitors, lots of people make similar sauce, I do like this one, sometimes add allspice, but it's good.
Looks like you had a little trouble getting the hot dog pieces ground-up how you wanted. I'd pour a cup of water in the blender with the hot dog pieces, it'll make it go much faster and give you the consistency you want.
It would be way cool! I really love dogs too! Sabrett and Nathans are my favorite. I grew up in the shadow of Nathans Hot Dogs in Brooklyn NY.I like Chicago dogs too.
I’m in awe! Our dad would bring me to Dallas Hot Wieners as a boy and we’d each order 2 with everything and a buttermilk. That was 45 years ago! I made this exactly how you did and Wowza it brought me right back to my childhood. Minnesota’s never had anything like this! Thank you!
That is awesome to hear! Moving to Texas many years ago I knew I would miss them as well. That is precisely why I had to come up with a version that is dead on. If someone has not had Dallas Hot Wieners, they can't fully appreciate this recipe.
I just made some, but I doctored it a little different I added pineapple juice, ground cloves,& a little coconut oil. I want to make a Hawaiian Dog on a toasted King's Hawaiian roll! . Maybe some pineapple relish?
I remember 'Uncle's Georges Hot Wiener Shop' on Broadway in Kingston NY, they were GREAT! Also the cool 3D photo of the shop, that someone crafted for them. Thanks for sharing, can't wait to make this sauce.
I just made this and the Smokey guy's Coney sauce. I'm not crazy about the cinnamon in this sauce, I kinda want to put it on pasta 🤤? The Coney Island sauce has more of a sweet, almost barbecue flavor.... I think I'm more of a Chicago dog, topped with yellow mustard, white onions, sweet pickle relish, a dill pickle spear, tomato slices, pickled peppers and a dash of celery seeds.
I know first hand your missing 1 ingredient, I used to service the appliances. And seen the cook put it in there. Send me a message and you will have the missing ingredient and will make it 99% right! I made your sauce and added the ingredient and I couldn’t tell the difference between Dallas and yours.
that is quite an interesting concept. Grinding wieners instead of ground beef. thanks for sharing. A lot of times you want to whip up some sauce and have no ground beef or just want a few. Any one who cooks much would have most of the seasonings. thank you for sharing. I'll be trying this sauce at my first cook out of the year.
monmixer Thanks, I've been trying for years to create this sauce and one of the main ingredients is ground hot dogs. There are a few more tweaks that I recently found out that I will be trying.
I was seriously hungry till the 11:30 Let down. Edit: Initial response to not seeing the sauce being applied to the dogs. Other than that I'm definitely trying this, thanks.
We got some great Texas Hots in Buffalo. Interestingly, though, the story I heard my whole life about them being invented on Seneca Street in Buffalo was debunked when I actually Googled the texas hot and found out that it goes back to Altoona PA 1918
WPEG Yea, the history of Texas Hots is very interesting. You find all kinds of variations through out the north east. Oddly enough, there are none to be found in Texas so I had to try and recreate the sauce I fell in love with back in Kingston NY.
Looks good. At least you are building them the way we had them at Texas Lunch in Port Jervis, NY. Plenty of minced onion before the sauce. So many sauce variations from place to place but as long as the sauce does not contain much if any meat or beans and flows to soak into the onions and spill over to the plate like you show, you have a good start.
Being from Buffalo I can remember walking past a couple of places on Main street in the 50's that served Texas Red Hots. The grill was in the window and you could see the dogs lined up like soldiers, but they weren't red to my 11 year old eyes and I didn't know that it was the sauce that made them Texas Red Hots. I just didn't get it. It was all about charcoal broiled for me at that time. I've matured and so has my palate. Since moving to California I've eaten plenty of chili dogs but none like this. This recipe looks very really interesting and I'm going to try it this week. I'll let you know how it turns out.
I grew up in Saugerties, NY and used to go to the Texas Hot Weiner Shop on Partition Street when I was a kid. This sauce was so good and I never found it outside Ulster County. Now, I live in South Jersey and I’m 63 years old. When I found your recipe on line I was so happy. I’ve made this sauce a few times and it tastes just like I remember from childhood. Thanks for your video.
Thanks Rose, I have never found anything like this outside of the Ulster County area. Nobody has ever heard of it but when they try it they fall in love with it. I use to go to Dallas Hot Weiners in Kingston at least once a month. When we moved to Texas I had to figure out how to make this. I told my wife about your comment and she said, "Now I want Dallas Hot Weiners" so I guess I will be making up a batch this weekend.
I'd reduce the water significantly. You are just wasting energy and time removing the water in steam that you added. The spices will combine just fine and marry quite well.
Here is my recipe: GREEKER SAUCE BASE 1 c. water 6.6 to 8 oz ground all beef hotdogs ground in food processor 2 t. white vinegar GREEKER SAUCE SPICE MIX 1 T. hot paprika 3 T. chili powder 1-1/2 t. garlic powder 1 t. onion powder ½ t. oregano ½ t. cinnamon ½ t. allspice 1 t. ground cumin 1/8 t. ground cloves ¼ t. cayenne ¼ t. white pepper 1/4 t. black pepper
70 years ago a corner store opened and they only made ‘Texas Wieners’. Sadly, the store only survived for about a year and disappeared. Ten years later I married and have been trying to duplicate those wonderful dogs ever since, trying many recipes from cook books and memory. Upon looking at dozens of chili/wiener clips here on youtube, I do believe my search might be at an end. Thanks.
Crazy I was googling a texas sauce recipe because I wanted Dallas hot weiners today but its an ice age outside and this is the first one that popped up 😂
Believe it or not Im from NY and ate my share of these. Of course we had our fav place to get them. My Uncle was best buddies with the owner so was there helping his buddy cook many times. My Uncle shared recipe with me and they boiled liver then ground up like the hot dogs. One of these days Im going to have to test it out.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful sauce recipe. I love weiners also. We will definitely try this, sounds and looks great. Yeah, some people will not share their secret recipes. They carry them to the grave with them. My aunt's brother had a secret barbecue sauce. Numerous people tried to get him to share it, but he wouldn't. He told us that he had a guy come into the restaurant one day, and set down at the counter, and tried to write down the recipe as he was at the stove making it. But him being sneaky, added some of the ingredients that the guy didn't catch. Heck, he didn't even share it with my aunt or the family. So it is lost.
If I hadn't watched me make this sauce I wouldn't believe that I made hot dog sauce that tasted this good! This is ambrosia, right here. Thanks for your work in perfecting this sauce, Tom. This is my new favorite by far. Oops, forgot to say, I just made this today and I'm still high from the great taste of the stuff. Wow ...just wow.
Cool, another satisfied customer! It really is good, it's one of those types of recipes when you look at it you might think it's not going to be good. Then when you make it and put it on a dog with mustard and onions, something magical happens.
***** Here's an audio file I found at the Library of Congress. The Greek guys talking about thickening the chili sauce with a paste made from white bread and water makes a lot of frugal sense, like using hot dogs in your delicious recipe. Anyhow, I thought you might enjoy this. Notes - Interview with Chris Betts and Nick Doris at the Hot Grill, Clifton, NJ. - HTW sauce is a tomato meat sauce. Sauce ingredients include chopped beef, onion, tomato paste, and many spices, thickened with a white-bread-and-water paste. CB: the main spice is chili powder, paprika is second, others in smaller amounts, including cinnamon and cumin. Mixing it is a matter of "everything by skill;" i.e., it is done by eye and hand. Interesting with Greek hot dog guy about making the chili sauce HERE: www.loc.gov/item/afcwip004291/
Hot Dog Charlie's in Troy, N.Y. was my favorite hangout. Little mini hot dogs with mustard, chopped onions and the famous hot dog sauce. I can still taste them. Fantastic
In the early 90's, I was married to someone from Port Jervis, NY. We would go to "Texas Lunch" there and get their hot dogs with sauce. I loved it so much and was searching UA-cam for a recipe when I came upon yours. There's was less red and not spicy hot, but it had sort of the same consistency as this one. No cinnamon and I'm assuming no paprika or Red pepper. We loved your recipe too.
' i cut hot roll weiner many pieces and put on the pan... low heat until fatty / greaseey / oilly out from the pan... put hot roll weiners on the paper towel and squeeze until yellow fatty / greaseey / oilly out... that is a good healthly without yellow fatty / greaseey / oilly
Superb recipe, it transports me directly to a Texas Wiener local even I've never been in one. One thing I tweaked is by looking at your spice plate to double the amount of each, and lower the water amount (used 5 cups, still too thin). It tastes good, a bit bitter after taste, is this ok?
Rick, this may be the very same hot dog I was talking about in southwestern, ny. I've never found the recipe until now and this sure looks like it. Here, though, I'm sure that some use burger instead of hotdogs in the sauce. But this sure explains the sauce of the local icon of the Texas Hot...Johnny's Lunch in Lakewood NY. It never had the looks of beef in the sauce...I think now it was left over hot dogs! Johnny's has been around since 1936 or so. Not the same since the the founder is gone.
i never heard of texas hot weiner sauce before i landed on your video. sounds interesting, though, and i'm going to have to try it, though i will probably also make a reduced amount. that does look like a lot of sauce. based on having tried your version of ben's chili bowl chili, i am willing to try it. the ben's chili has made me a hit with family and friends, and i do keep a jar full of that seasoning mix in my pantry. thanks for posting.
they look FINE,5 star food.But NOTHING beat's A N.Y.C. Dirty Water Dogw/ the work's. gonna make me a big pot of this next and take it on vacation with us.
As a resident of Kingston, I've grown up eating Dallas Hot Wieners - for as far back as I can remember. (I'm 55 and have been going there since, literally, before I was born, since my mom's been in there since she was a teenager - she's 75.) I've never had a better hot dog. And I've spent 4 yrs. in Dallas/Ft. Worth. I used to eat up to six at a time. These days I can only handle 2 or, at the most 3. They're just as good today as when I was a kid. Once and a while we buy the sauce and make our own. But they just don't seem as good as the restaurant's. I think the steaming is an important detail.
jerriosity Thanks, I use to go there for lunch and eat 5 or 6 myself. After moving to Texas I had to try and duplicate the sauce and this is spot on, according to my wife who is a Kingston native.
Sorry, I live in Detroit. No one beats Detroit coney dogs. But it looked good regardless. I’m afraid that cinnamon might make it too sweet for my taste though. I can’t stand Skyline Chili sauce.
Hi . . I'm from the UK . . .The Chili powder in the recipe is it Mexican Chili con carne powder (Chilli/cumin/oregano etc ) or 100% pure Chili powder ??? Its just that 1tablespoon of pure chili powder seems like it would make the sauce very Hot/Spicy . . .Looks a great sauce and thanks for your efforts
I want to start by saying thanks. I’m going to try this recipe. But since it calls for leftover wieners, I’m going to steam them first. I think their flavor will be stronger and the texture a bit harder. It might not need the cornstarch. I’ll use breadcrumbs to thicken and slow and low to reduce the liquid. 👍🏾. Please wish me luck. 🙏🏽
***** Here is the real recipe & there is no hotdogs in it. its called Rochester meat hot sauce, From Rochester NY. Ingredients 1 medium onion, chopped (about ¾ cup) 1 teaspoon oil 1 pound finely ground beef, 80/20 1 cup water 1/4 cup tomato paste 1 tablespoon brown sugar 1 teaspoon each: black pepper, cayenne pepper, chili powder 1/2 teaspoon each: ground cumin, allspice 1/4 teaspoon each: cinnamon, ground cloves salt to taste Instructions In a large skillet, fry onion and garlic in oil until soft. Add meat, stirring constantly with fork to keep the beef broken up. Once the meat browns, add water and tomato paste. Simmer 10 minutes. Simmer 10 minutes, and then use an immersion blender to grind the beef to a finer texture. Add sugar and spices. Simmer 1 hour, adding water if necessary to keep it moist (but not soupy). ENJOY.
I've seen several comments referencing M&P Coney Island in Newcastle. I grew up in Sharon Pa and started enjoying M&P coneys as a kid, when Mary was a waitress there. Living in Ga for 35 years now I miss a good coney, which is always a stop when I'm up that way, or PO Lunch. I've got a couple recipes I make that are pretty close. Tom, I'm making yours now, thanks for sharing.
Tom if you ever get the chance to come back to NY in the capital region near albany there are 2 cities. one is Troy Ny, the other is Watervliet NY. There are some Awesome wiener places. In Troy there is Famous Lunch in my opinion they are the second best in the area. The in Watervliet there is a place called Gus's Hotdogs! They serve a variety of things, They like the other place are known for their wieners. Similar to what you made there only they both use Mini wieners. Us locals are very loyal to one or the other. I do hope that some day you get to try them out. If you search for Gus's hotdogs you can get their number and order a DIY self kit to make them at home.
My Dad owned a deli outside of Kingston near 50 years ago and had a friend named Tony Carpino. He claimed to have concocted this recipe that he actually sold or (bartered) the process. LOL! My Dad got this recipe from him for his deli. I remember making this in the kitchen (mincing the hotdogs). I'm sure he's the one who gave the recipe to Dallas Hot Weiners as well years ago. Thanks for the memories!
I lived in Kingston from ‘57 to ‘66 and used to get Texas Hot Wieners at the Anchorage Inn in Eddyville on the Rondout Creek. A big guy names Jim used to run the place back then, and every so often he’d have Texas Red Hots on the menu. I don’t think that they were a regular item…just a special. Man, they were GOOOOOD!!!
Hey Tom. great video. Being from Buffalo NY you have the recipe Almost perfect. The spices are spot on but the sauce itself is rendered down to be much thicker to almost a chili consistency. also many places that make this add ground beef. just an FYI.
I forgot to add Tom! I loved the first batch so much, I tried a second batch and added 2 heaping Tablespoons of Instant Coffee!!! Try it next time!
+Bubba Tricks I've had comments from others that swear coffee is one of the secret ingredients. I haven't tried that but I might just have to now. Thanks.
NO! Thank you! I have given most of the first batch away to family and they are very happy!
Any brand of Instant Coffee you tried that worked the best?
What coffee do u use ?
i know this is an old video and you are proabably not gonna read it. but why do you use corn starch instead of flour? flour works way better to thicken sauce
I used cornstarch because the ingredients listed on many clone recipes called for it. I believe the original recipes did call for cornstarch.
Tom, how do you compare this recipe with the sauce served at what used to be Uncle George's in Kingston?
You know, I never had Uncle George's. This sauce is pretty much like Dallas Hot Weiners, which was what I was going for.
If it's tastes like Uncle's George's, I'm in.
***** I frequented Uncle George's in the 70s and I loved his hot dog sauce very much. When he passed away, and Dallas Hot Whiners took over, I thought I would never enjoy another. I was wrong. The recipes are very similar, although I remember Uncle George's being a little spicier. I went to Dallas Hot Wieners the other day (There are now 4 restaurants, 3 in Kingston and 1 in Saugerties), and unbelievably I devoured 8 of those beauties. Yum Yum. I'm sorry you missed out on the Uncle George's experience, however, Dallas Hot Wieners is just as good. "I'll have 4 on 2, please."
I grew up in South Philadelphia and in my neighborhood we had a place that sold Texas Weniers they were so good. Always wanted to know how they made the sauce. Thank you for sharing ❤ 😊
Only thing. When I heard this gentleman chew his food, I had to throw off my ear pods. 🤣. I’m sorry. It’s
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Pet peeve of mine. Thanks again for the great recipe.
Well, I gotta tell ya
I tried it, and I much preferred using the same spices (with the addition of a little brown sugar) in ground beef, instead of the cut-up hot dogs. Still has the great spicy flavor, but not quite so runny and sloppy.
I have been looking for this recipe for years. I lived in southwestern NY. #1 place was "Texas Lunch" (aka: Monkey House) in North East PA, second was Johnny's in Jamestown, NY. i made the sauce and it close enough to bring back a lot of great memories, thanks Tom !!
+Victoria Best That is awesome, many folks have tried it and said the same thing. I make it for my wife from time to time when she is homesick for upstate NY.
I'm gonna make some of that Tom! Man I could eat about 6 of those right now! Damn they looked good! That sauce should freeze well too, I would think? I don't add many recipes to my favorites, but this one just went in :D
Tom I made the sauce several months ago and my family loved them. We are from Danbury, Ct where we used to get them at JK's Texas Hot Wiener and they tasted identical. Great recipe! i am making a batch as I am writing this.
That is awesome, glad you liked it.
An Excellent Cooking Video. Highly Recommended. Thank You Very Much For Sharing.
Jimmys in Buffalo-grew up with the sauce-and hot dogs were ABSOLUTELY in the sauce-watched them make it.
Grew up in Buffalo too. Used to go the Texas Hot Dog place down by city hall. Loved those things. Will try this recipe.
Ja Fa Fa Hots... :)
Hi Tom, well OMG I can’t thank you enough! I’ve lived in Florida for many years now but after tasting the sauce I was transported right back to Kingston! It’s absolutely spot on! The only problem is I’m going to be eating far too many hotdogs now!
Thanks so much, I understand how you feel. We were the same after moving to Texas 25 years ago and finding there is no such thing as Texas Hot Wiener sauce here.
A great way I’ve found to prepare the onions is to very finely chop them in the mini chopper, dump them on to a kitchen towel or a piece of cheese cloth and squeeze the living bejezuz out of them to dry them out and then voilà! The perfect Dallas hot wieners onions!
Great video Tom! I remember you shared the original video with me a while back. I have so many old vids that I want to re-shoot! Thumbs up!
I'm from the Kingston area but I live by St Louis now. I'm making a pot for our party tomorrow.
I'm modifying it though due to allergies. My wife has alpha gal syndrome and cannot have mammal products, and I can't have cinnamon.
Using Applegate Farms Turkey Dogs and ground chicken. I also pureed the garlic and onions and fried them with the chicken.
I'll let you know how they turn out.
Cool, let me know how it turns out.
Your making this too frigging complicated. The greeks that started the coney island red hots never went to the trouble that you are going to. It was a SIMPLE recipe for the sauce. Very cheap and tasty. Maybe apound of ground beef , beef bollion and some spices , lots of water VERY Little little spices because they couldn't afford them. Watered down mustard and away you went. Don't try to complicate these recipies. They were very simple at best.
Have you ever had a hot wiener from Dallas Hot Wiener's in Kingston NY? I agree that most sauces are very simple with few ingredients but I based this one on a lot of research and it's as close as you can come to the ones served in the restaurant. I have had many people over the years make this sauce and thank me for transporting them back to Kingston and Dallas Hot Wiener's.
You need to try Texas hot in Wellsville New York! Greek family then in business for over a hundred years!
I have heard they are really good.
Just came across this video.. Gonna have to try this. Looks a little runny tho. Just ate Dallas Hot wieners yesterday. They have 5 locations now.
We loved Dallas Hot wieners, I had to come up with a way to make them here in Texas. If I remember correctly the sauce is a bit runny, it's not a chili dog. If you try making let me know what you think, it's as close as we can get to a real hot wiener sauce.
I have to admit it, I've never heard of this type of sauce. So it's basically a hot dog chili sauce made with hot dogs instead of beef.
exactly, it's really good
Whoa, those dogs look good. I think I might mix together the spices and save the mix in a jar, then bring out enough to make, say, two ground-up dogs worth at a time. I would think that big pot of sauce would serve up 50 or so dogs, easily.
They remind me of the Cincinnati style dogs but with hot dog sauce rather than ground beef.
Anyway, great job. I'll give them a try when I get my weight back down from my latest round of gluttony.
Rick
love the runny sauce because they seem to stay hot on your hot dog. Others made with masa flour gets cold and clumpy. Well definitely give it a shot. Only true cost are the hotdogs
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I'm originally from wny where we have Johnny's and Aj's ( now Michael's) Texas hots...I've moved to fla and really missed grub from home, after years of looking for a copy cat recipe I stumbled on this video and it's close! I've spent the last few months tweaking this recipe and finally have it dialed in to taste like home and figured out why this is just a hair different and how to fix it.
The cornstarch is the wrong thickening agent, it's fine when you first make the sauce the texture and thickness is perfect however once it gets cold either in the fridge or frozen the consistency isn't right and it doesn't reheat right and go back to the thin gel consistency it should have, it stays to thick and lumpy due to the cornstarch. Plain gelatin is the way to go for the thickener when Johnny's/Ajs sauce is cold it's like jello, when it's reheated it melts back to the perfect thin gel consistency this sauce should have.
There also isn't any thyme in it and the seasoning measurements are a bit off, at least for our area of wny . I also substitute a cup or 2 of water for strong black coffee it does help the flavor and color.
The recipe in this video is way to hot in my opinion, there should only be a little heat on the back end that hits you in the back of your throat rather than the stinging/burning of your lips and tongue.. jamestown area texas hots don't burn... though I get that other areas of wny have their own flavor profile of this sauce so it's going to vary by area and personal taste...
Anyway ty for the base recipe, now I can have a taste of home any time the craving hits me !
Ground is done with a grinder (like ground beef). A food processor makes more of a paste. Should i use a grinder or food processor?
For the hot dogs, I always use the food processor.
@@tomstestkitchen thank you for the fast reply cause I'm getting ready to make this tonight. Cheers.
Tom , I cut the recipe in half and it turns out perfect it was delicious thank you for this recipe I'm from New Jersey and this tastes almost like some recipe that I had there in Elizabeth New Jersey
I'm glad you made it an liked it. I make the full batch and freeze the leftover. It reheats really well, nice to have on hand.
@@tomstestkitchen in ice cube trays if you want to do one or two dogs at a time. I used to buy and bring back to VA. Works like a charm
I was raised in Elizabeth, NJ and Georges Hot dog sauce was the greatest. Been using this recipe and its very close and excellent.. Would pay cash for Georges recipe. We used to buy it from there by the gallon. Thanks for your recipe. Also fyi.. Georges hot dogs were Best Hot dogs from Newark, NJ. , much better that Nathans, Sabretts are also better.
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I am def going to give this a whirl - I live in the Kingston NY area and am a big fan of Dallas Hot Wieners and their sauce. (BTW - its great on Cheeseburgers also)
I will post my results. Cant wait! Thanks for taking the time to post.
Give it a try, you will be pleasantly surprised at how close it is to Dallas Hot Wieners.
Making your sauce for the umpteenth time today Tom! Just wanted to say thank you again! My whole family just loves this recipe! Takes me right back to Kingston, Woodstock, Saugerties!
That's awesome, I lived in both Kingston and Saugerties. We really miss Woodstock and Overlook Mountain. I'm glad you enjoy the sauce!
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The Goumas family started the business known as Texas Hot Weiners. Decades ago they sold it to the current owners who renamed it Dallas Hot Weiners. The original owners were friends of my family... we have the Goumas recipe.
Without giving it up entirely, the "cheap" hotdogs (code for fatty) are boiled and the water used to boil them is used to make the sauce. After boiling the hot dogs the original recipe uses chopped onion and garlic that are browned in oil... and yes, chopped hot dogs are a key ingredient. I think the original sauce is a bit thicker than yours but that it tough to judge on video. A steamer is used to keep the hot dogs warm at the front of the store but they were actually boiled in the kitchen.
I'm curious to try your recipe and compare it to the original as there are clearly differences but yours looks great too -- for one thing, not having to chop onions for the sauce would save me some tears. LOL
Hot Texas Wieners were started in Paterson NJ....Still some good places around...Rutts Hut and Hot Grille in Clifton are some of the best
That has to be the oddest hot dog sauce I have EVER seen. And I would love to know who gave these a "Texas" or "Dallas" name?? Being from Texas and living in Dallas, I assure you that you will never find something like that here :O
I know, there is nothing Texas about them. One theory is because the recipe calls for chili powder. You find these all over the north east. They are tasty though.
A diner in Kingston NY has the best Texas weiner sauce
Which one?
@@tomstestkitchen I think it is the Kings Valley Diner down the road from Orthopedic Associates.
I'd add some water to the food processor to help with the hot dog blending. I'd use less water because it's just going to be boiled off and take a lot longer with no real benefit other than a big electric or gas bill. I think the really cheap greeker/texas hot dog places don't even use hot dogs in the sauce. I'm used to the really cheap hot dog places in Bethlehem, PA.
Tom, I have worked this sauce for many years also. My grand father and uncle both worked at Texas wieners in altoona pa. They would never divulge the recipe but they would say if we were right ! The history of texas wieners begins early and thru the depression very important to remember they wasted nothing ! The left over hod dogs where used that's absolutely correct. The other thing Texas wieners was known for was coffee and buffalo burgers (boiled hamburgers). You have 6 cups of water in your recipe - substitute some of the water with black coffee! The coffee is what gives the sauce the color and adds just a bit of bitterness or reduces the sweetness. Black Coffee was a confirmed ingredient by both my grand father and uncle. Buffalo burgers surely made it into the ground hot dog sauce but never confirmed.
That's awesome Todd, thanks for the tip about the coffee. I will have to try that.
Keep working on it i have been adjusting it for so many years omg i need drive back to pa just to get the origion taste again to see where im at lol
Tom, I must admit, this is the first recipe I came across that used ground up hot dogs with no hamburger meat. Up in Flint, Michigan they add the ground hot dogs to their beef for their famous chili sauce. I have my own Chili Sauce recipe, but I will have to make a batch of this right here to try it out. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, that is interesting to hear that they use ground hot dogs as well as ground beef. Rus over at SmokeyRibs used my sauce as a base and added ground beef. His might be closer to what you have in Flint.
Tom, this looks great. There is a place in Rochester NY that has these dogs /sausages called White Hots, and they put a similar sauce on them, and down here Char Hut has a similar sauce. And now I can't decide if I want to replicate your recipe or Tweak it up''My Way" Either way I love a good hot dog and these look like a winner wiener. Cheers!
This sauce is absolutely amazing. It’s so inspiring you take this sauce and mix it with a hotdog stand in a calm in town and you’ve got extravagance and brilliance.
The actual true 'weiner' the dog itself is made in RI, very few stares allow it because of fat content, comes in 5' roll and cut, originated in RI, was big then in NY, it's more of a Greek meat sauce, even in RI where sell real deal is called NY system hot weiners lol, NY has more visitors, lots of people make similar sauce, I do like this one, sometimes add allspice, but it's good.
Grew up in Newburgh on the Hudson. Sauce looks legit.
Me to Texas hot dogs on Broadway 👍
Looks like you had a little trouble getting the hot dog pieces ground-up how you wanted. I'd pour a cup of water in the blender with the hot dog pieces, it'll make it go much faster and give you the consistency you want.
It would be way cool! I really love dogs too! Sabrett and Nathans are my favorite. I grew up in the shadow of Nathans Hot Dogs in Brooklyn NY.I like Chicago dogs too.
Oh dear gawd!!! I love chilli dogs, and you nailed it Tom! Great recipe sir!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks, I'm a big fan too.
As a resident of Andover NY who regularly eats at the texas hot in wellsville. This is very accurate and delicious
I’m in awe! Our dad would bring me to Dallas Hot Wieners as a boy and we’d each order 2 with everything and a buttermilk. That was 45 years ago! I made this exactly how you did and Wowza it brought me right back to my childhood. Minnesota’s never had anything like this! Thank you!
That is awesome to hear! Moving to Texas many years ago I knew I would miss them as well. That is precisely why I had to come up with a version that is dead on. If someone has not had Dallas Hot Wieners, they can't fully appreciate this recipe.
I just made some, but I doctored it a little different I added pineapple juice, ground cloves,& a little coconut oil. I want to make a Hawaiian Dog on a toasted King's Hawaiian roll! . Maybe some pineapple relish?
crazybobdj That sounds interesting, have you seen my Puka Dog video? puka dog
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I remember 'Uncle's Georges Hot Wiener Shop' on Broadway in Kingston NY, they were GREAT! Also the cool 3D photo of the shop, that someone crafted for them. Thanks for sharing, can't wait to make this sauce.
I never went to Uncle George's, I was alway a fan of Dallas Hot Wieners.
Tom thank you for the heart. I just made the sauce tonight and Yum, Yum.
Tom's Test Kitchen Dallas rocks!! Awesome to find a recipe online!!
Ok Tom, you've outdone yourself with this one man. That looked like some sloppy goodness and some fine eat'n. I'm jealous man!!!
I just made this and the Smokey guy's Coney sauce. I'm not crazy about the cinnamon in this sauce, I kinda want to put it on pasta 🤤? The Coney Island sauce has more of a sweet, almost barbecue flavor.... I think I'm more of a Chicago dog, topped with yellow mustard, white onions, sweet pickle relish, a dill pickle spear, tomato slices, pickled peppers and a dash of celery seeds.
one more ua-cam.com/video/Q-R_sDQx8ow/v-deo.html look at the final touch ... a little celery salt
I know first hand your missing 1 ingredient, I used to service the appliances. And seen the cook put it in there. Send me a message and you will have the missing ingredient and will make it 99% right! I made your sauce and added the ingredient and I couldn’t tell the difference between Dallas and yours.
Hi Tim, I can't seem to message you privately. Email me at tdj_tx@yahoo.com
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that is quite an interesting concept. Grinding wieners instead of ground beef. thanks for sharing. A lot of times you want to whip up some sauce and have no ground beef or just want a few. Any one who cooks much would have most of the seasonings. thank you for sharing. I'll be trying this sauce at my first cook out of the year.
monmixer Thanks, I've been trying for years to create this sauce and one of the main ingredients is ground hot dogs. There are a few more tweaks that I recently found out that I will be trying.
One thing ! Use grilled hotdogs in sauce !!!
That would be much better.
I was seriously hungry till the 11:30 Let down. Edit: Initial response to not seeing the sauce being applied to the dogs. Other than that I'm definitely trying this, thanks.
Sorry about that, the video was shot way before I started using multiple cameras. I should make a new video because this sauce is so good.
We got some great Texas Hots in Buffalo. Interestingly, though, the story I heard my whole life about them being invented on Seneca Street in Buffalo was debunked when I actually Googled the texas hot and found out that it goes back to Altoona PA 1918
WPEG Yea, the history of Texas Hots is very interesting. You find all kinds of variations through out the north east. Oddly enough, there are none to be found in Texas so I had to try and recreate the sauce I fell in love with back in Kingston NY.
I just know the dogs were great as he eats just like I do....I simply must grunt and sigh while pleasing my taste buds
you know what!!? I am 5 miles from that Dallas Hot Weiner’s!!Kingston NY Thank you for this incredible recipe!!
If you are only 5 miles from Dallas Hot Weiner's then you can just go there and get them any time you want.
Looks good. At least you are building them the way we had them at Texas Lunch in Port Jervis, NY. Plenty of minced onion before the sauce. So many sauce variations from place to place but as long as the sauce does not contain much if any meat or beans and flows to soak into the onions and spill over to the plate like you show, you have a good start.
Thanks, this is exactly how Dallas Hot Wieners in Kingston built them.
I forgot the damn cinnamon &%#$%&(
This is exactly spot on. The real legitimate old Flint area Coney sauce are also made with ground hotdogs.
This looks really good. I would love to give this a try.
Being from Buffalo I can remember walking past a couple of places on Main street in the 50's that served Texas Red Hots. The grill was in the window and you could see the dogs lined up like soldiers, but they weren't red to my 11 year old eyes and I didn't know that it was the sauce that made them Texas Red Hots. I just didn't get it. It was all about charcoal broiled for me at that time. I've matured and so has my palate. Since moving to California I've eaten plenty of chili dogs but none like this. This recipe looks very really interesting and I'm going to try it this week. I'll let you know how it turns out.
+Frank Messina Let me know how you like it, many have made it and swear it's as close as you can get to the real thing in the restaurants.
in rochester @ nick tahous they use ground beef and chili oil
Hey Tom at first I said o hell no to the chopped hot dogs
Well I tried it and I now say O Hell yea! Thank you 🙏 this is friquen delicious 🤤 thank you
Yeah, everyone says that at first, glad you liked it.
I grew up in Saugerties, NY and used to go to the Texas Hot Weiner Shop on Partition Street when I was a kid. This sauce was so good and I never found it outside Ulster County. Now, I live in South Jersey and I’m 63 years old. When I found your recipe on line I was so happy. I’ve made this sauce a few times and it tastes just like I remember from childhood. Thanks for your video.
Thanks Rose, I have never found anything like this outside of the Ulster County area. Nobody has ever heard of it but when they try it they fall in love with it. I use to go to Dallas Hot Weiners in Kingston at least once a month. When we moved to Texas I had to figure out how to make this. I told my wife about your comment and she said, "Now I want Dallas Hot Weiners" so I guess I will be making up a batch this weekend.
Russ sent me he hee
I'd reduce the water significantly. You are just wasting energy and time removing the water in steam that you added. The spices will combine just fine and marry quite well.
+vanscoyoc Have you made this recipe?
Here is my recipe: GREEKER SAUCE BASE
1 c. water
6.6 to 8 oz ground all beef hotdogs ground in food processor
2 t. white vinegar
GREEKER SAUCE SPICE MIX
1 T. hot paprika
3 T. chili powder
1-1/2 t. garlic powder
1 t. onion powder
½ t. oregano
½ t. cinnamon
½ t. allspice
1 t. ground cumin
1/8 t. ground cloves
¼ t. cayenne
¼ t. white pepper
1/4 t. black pepper
+vanscoyoc Looks interesting, I'll give it a try. Thanks
Water dogs🤔I would cook sauce another 30-40 mins.
It is supposed to be thin like this, if you do want it thicker then simmer a bit longer.
70 years ago a corner store opened and they only made ‘Texas Wieners’. Sadly, the store only survived for about a year and disappeared. Ten years later I married and have been trying to duplicate those wonderful dogs ever since, trying many recipes from cook books and memory. Upon looking at dozens of chili/wiener clips here on youtube, I do believe my search might be at an end. Thanks.
Let me know if you like it, it's my family's favorite
Crazy I was googling a texas sauce recipe because I wanted Dallas hot weiners today but its an ice age outside and this is the first one that popped up 😂
This is as close of a recipe to Dallas as you will find.
Noooooo...yellow mustard
Believe it or not Im from NY and ate my share of these. Of course we had our fav place to get them. My Uncle was best buddies with the owner so was there helping his buddy cook many times. My Uncle shared recipe with me and they boiled liver then ground up like the hot dogs. One of these days Im going to have to test it out.
Could you ask your uncle for his recipe?
Good 👍 recipe
Can you make a bigger batch for one or two people? Sorry for my sarcasm, but damn.
I make a big batch because I freeze the sauce in small batches for later
Thank you for sharing this wonderful sauce recipe. I love weiners also. We will definitely try this, sounds and looks great. Yeah, some people will not share their secret recipes. They carry them to the grave with them. My aunt's brother had a secret barbecue sauce. Numerous people tried to get him to share it, but he wouldn't. He told us that he had a guy come into the restaurant one day, and set down at the counter, and tried to write down the recipe as he was at the stove making it. But him being sneaky, added some of the ingredients that the guy didn't catch. Heck, he didn't even share it with my aunt or the family. So it is lost.
I also subscribed to your channel. Again, thank you for sharing.
If I hadn't watched me make this sauce I wouldn't believe that I made hot dog sauce that tasted this good! This is ambrosia, right here. Thanks for your work in perfecting this sauce, Tom. This is my new favorite by far. Oops, forgot to say, I just made this today and I'm still high from the great taste of the stuff. Wow ...just wow.
Cool, another satisfied customer! It really is good, it's one of those types of recipes when you look at it you might think it's not going to be good. Then when you make it and put it on a dog with mustard and onions, something magical happens.
***** Here's an audio file I found at the Library of Congress. The Greek guys talking about thickening the chili sauce with a paste made from white bread and water makes a lot of frugal sense, like using hot dogs in your delicious recipe. Anyhow, I thought you might enjoy this.
Notes
- Interview with Chris Betts and Nick Doris at the Hot Grill, Clifton, NJ.
- HTW sauce is a tomato meat sauce. Sauce ingredients include chopped beef, onion, tomato paste, and many spices, thickened with a white-bread-and-water paste. CB: the main spice is chili powder, paprika is second, others in smaller amounts, including cinnamon and cumin. Mixing it is a matter of "everything by skill;" i.e., it is done by eye and hand.
Interesting with Greek hot dog guy about making the chili sauce HERE: www.loc.gov/item/afcwip004291/
***** Very interesting, thank you.
The white vinegar ruied the sauce, too sour.
Adjust it to your liking, it really adds a great flavor to the sauce
Thats a NY CONEY sauce! Yummy.
Hot Dog Charlie's in Troy, N.Y. was my favorite hangout. Little mini hot dogs with mustard, chopped onions and the famous hot dog sauce. I can still taste them. Fantastic
Just made this for my mom and I today for lunch and it was delicious. Thanks for the share.
That's awesome! Have you ever had Texas hot wieners before?
In the early 90's, I was married to someone from Port Jervis, NY. We would go to "Texas Lunch" there and get their hot dogs with sauce. I loved it so much and was searching UA-cam for a recipe when I came upon yours. There's was less red and not spicy hot, but it had sort of the same consistency as this one. No cinnamon and I'm assuming no paprika or Red pepper. We loved your recipe too.
Well I just looked at their sight and that sauce does look pretty red. It's been a while...lol.
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i cut hot roll weiner many pieces and put on the pan...
low heat until fatty / greaseey / oilly out from the pan...
put hot roll weiners on the paper towel and squeeze until yellow fatty / greaseey / oilly out...
that is a good healthly without yellow fatty / greaseey / oilly
Superb recipe, it transports me directly to a Texas Wiener local even I've never been in one.
One thing I tweaked is by looking at your spice plate to double the amount of each, and lower the water amount (used 5 cups, still too thin). It tastes good, a bit bitter after taste, is this ok?
Rick, this may be the very same hot dog I was talking about in southwestern, ny. I've never found the recipe until now and this sure looks like it. Here, though, I'm sure that some use burger instead of hotdogs in the sauce. But this sure explains the sauce of the local icon of the Texas Hot...Johnny's Lunch in Lakewood NY. It never had the looks of beef in the sauce...I think now it was left over hot dogs! Johnny's has been around since 1936 or so. Not the same since the the founder is gone.
i never heard of texas hot weiner sauce before i landed on your video. sounds interesting, though, and i'm going to have to try it, though i will probably also make a reduced amount. that does look like a lot of sauce. based on having tried your version of ben's chili bowl chili, i am willing to try it. the ben's chili has made me a hit with family and friends, and i do keep a jar full of that seasoning mix in my pantry. thanks for posting.
they look FINE,5 star food.But NOTHING beat's A N.Y.C. Dirty Water Dogw/ the work's. gonna make me a big pot of this next and take it on vacation with us.
Tom I have to thank you again. I am making the third batch of sauce from your recipe and my family can't wait...;-)
Reminds me of a Detroit coney island dog. Might have to give this a try, maybe with a little uncooked ground beef added to pot before cooking.
As a resident of Kingston, I've grown up eating Dallas Hot Wieners - for as far back as I can remember. (I'm 55 and have been going there since, literally, before I was born, since my mom's been in there since she was a teenager - she's 75.) I've never had a better hot dog. And I've spent 4 yrs. in Dallas/Ft. Worth. I used to eat up to six at a time. These days I can only handle 2 or, at the most 3. They're just as good today as when I was a kid. Once and a while we buy the sauce and make our own. But they just don't seem as good as the restaurant's. I think the steaming is an important detail.
jerriosity PS - another secret is to use water that's already had dogs boiled in it!
jerriosity Thanks, I use to go there for lunch and eat 5 or 6 myself. After moving to Texas I had to try and duplicate the sauce and this is spot on, according to my wife who is a Kingston native.
Looks delicious...thanks for the video
Awesome recipe!
Thanks Mike, did you make it?
Dang, looks good, gonna make it, gonna top it with some cheddar though
Why do you use corn starch when you can just add less water?
Sorry, I live in Detroit. No one beats Detroit coney dogs. But it looked good regardless. I’m afraid that cinnamon might make it too sweet for my taste though. I can’t stand Skyline Chili sauce.
Oh don't get me wrong, I love a good Detroit coney dog as well. It's just that were I lived in NY state this was my go-to hot dog joint.
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You are in luck, it is still available shirt.woot.com/offers/hot-dogs?ref=cnt_ctlg_dgn_2 I love this shirt.
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Hi . . I'm from the UK . . .The Chili powder in the recipe is it Mexican Chili con carne powder (Chilli/cumin/oregano etc ) or 100% pure Chili powder ??? Its just that 1tablespoon of pure chili powder seems like it would make the sauce very Hot/Spicy . . .Looks a great sauce and thanks for your efforts
Thanks Lenny, it is a Mexican Chili con carne powder (Chilli/cumin/oregano etc )
I want to start by saying thanks. I’m going to try this recipe. But since it calls for leftover wieners, I’m going to steam them first. I think their flavor will be stronger and the texture a bit harder. It might not need the cornstarch. I’ll use breadcrumbs to thicken and slow and low to reduce the liquid. 👍🏾. Please wish me luck. 🙏🏽
It doesn't call for left-over wieners
does it matter what kind of paprika you use? hot or sweet?
I guess it would depend on your taste, if you like it hot use that.
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Here is the real recipe & there is no hotdogs in it.
its called Rochester meat hot sauce, From Rochester NY.
Ingredients
1 medium onion, chopped (about ¾ cup)
1 teaspoon oil
1 pound finely ground beef, 80/20
1 cup water
1/4 cup tomato paste
1 tablespoon brown sugar
1 teaspoon each: black pepper, cayenne pepper, chili powder
1/2 teaspoon each: ground cumin, allspice
1/4 teaspoon each: cinnamon, ground cloves
salt to taste
Instructions
In a large skillet, fry onion and garlic in oil until soft. Add meat, stirring constantly with fork to keep the beef broken up.
Once the meat browns, add water and tomato paste. Simmer 10 minutes.
Simmer 10 minutes, and then use an immersion blender to grind the beef to a finer texture.
Add sugar and spices.
Simmer 1 hour, adding water if necessary to keep it moist (but not soupy).
ENJOY.
ThomasPaine3 Thanks, I'll have to give it a try.
I've eaten a lot of them and it's definitely ground beef. If they put any ground hot dogs in it sure doesn't taste like it.
I've seen several comments referencing M&P Coney Island in Newcastle. I grew up in Sharon Pa and started enjoying M&P coneys as a kid, when Mary was a waitress there. Living in Ga for 35 years now I miss a good coney, which is always a stop when I'm up that way, or PO Lunch. I've got a couple recipes I make that are pretty close. Tom, I'm making yours now, thanks for sharing.
Awesome, let me know how it turns out.
Looks like a lot more than a teaspoon of spice.
This is Rochester hot sauce and you keep talking about The Hudson Valley.
It's because I lived in the Mid-Hudson Valley and all of the Texas Hot Wiener joints served this type of sauce on their dogs
Secret ingredient, A1... Here in NY we have Johny's texas hots . Best ever and I always taste a hint of steak sauce
It's possible they use A1 in their sauce, I can say I have never tasted steak sauce in the sauce used at Dallas Hot Wieners.
Yum that looks so darn good tom.
Another Question Tom.....The Vinegar are we talking White wine vinegar or distilled clear malt vinegar ?
Distilled white vinegar
Tom if you ever get the chance to come back to NY in the capital region near albany there are 2 cities. one is Troy Ny, the other is Watervliet NY. There are some Awesome wiener places. In Troy there is Famous Lunch in my opinion they are the second best in the area. The in Watervliet there is a place called Gus's Hotdogs! They serve a variety of things, They like the other place are known for their wieners. Similar to what you made there only they both use Mini wieners. Us locals are very loyal to one or the other. I do hope that some day you get to try them out.
If you search for Gus's hotdogs you can get their number and order a DIY self kit to make them at home.
Yea, I've been in the part of NY. I seem to remember the big thing were this little hot dogs, I think they were called "Peewee's".