Another Huge Doping Scandal Just Discovered
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Zane Robertson, the multiple national record holder for New Zealand, has officially been busted for EPO.
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Wanted to address something very important. ONLY ZANE HAS BEEN BANNED. Jake has had no positive drug tests in his career and therefore has not been implicated in this doping scandal.
Of course Jake has no positive drug test. You don't use your own product that you sell. Jake is Zane's drug supplier. So why would he be using his own limited supply?
What are the chances, given that the brothers were so close that Jake did not know? Also given that up until very recently Kenya ,(and to a lesser extent Ethiopia) had fairly dismal drug screening standards and protocols does this raise a question of potential wider use?
They have virtually identical times. Given that, the fact they went to the extreme measure of moving to Kenya, and that they trained together, it's not a stretch to think he's involved too.
EPO or Epoetin Alpha is a red blood cell stimulator given to patients with anemia. Usually these are cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy. As an Oncology nurse I give EPO and Neupogen for WBC stimulation at least once on every shift I work. The sad fact is, if these runners can train at high altitudes, a healthy body will generate more circulating RBC's. Which is why schools like Northern Arizona University have a huge edge in distance races. Using an expensive drug for more RBC's isn't smart. You can actually have too much circulating RBC's and throw off the proper proportions needed in the blood stream between plasma and all of the other circulating cells, which can actually harm performance. Ironically EPO can cause bone marrow cancers in some case or worsen any current cancer cells as it is basically a growth factor!
"You can actually have too much circulating RBC's" - medlife crisis did a video on cyclists in the early days of epo that were taking so much their heart rate would slow to a stop in their sleep and they'd die. they started wearing a heart rate monitor to bed and it would sound an alarm when their hr got too low. they'd (hopefully) wake up and jump on an exercise bike to speed it back up.
@@hammer313 yikes. I think I would just skip the EPO overdose before having to resort to the heart monitor.
So with ur experience in the Cancer nursing field ,and Lance Armstrong's Cancer History(And obviously he had no choice with all the Rx he was on) and his eventual recovery & Legendary success in Cycle racing,was there any chance of mitigation on his behalf?
@@jerryoshea3116 Who is to say how long he was using EPO before he was diagnosed with cancer... Maybe, like original post mentions, he did the cancer to himself. Edit: I remember watching his Oprah special and he talks about using enhancing drugs for a very long time. I want to say he eventually had bone issues as well. Extra edit: I mean, and if he wasn't still using after...why did they strip him of all titles?
@@hammer313 On this point, I ran cross country and pole vaulted. I was nowhere near amazing, yet my resting HR was pretty much never over 50BPM, 45-47 was pretty average. For active professionals, who are not doping, it can be as low as 30-35. So yeah, scary stuff those bicycle racers and endurance athletes with their 20-25BPM. It doesn't always mean drugs... But I assume when you add the drugs to an already crazy itinerary it makes it worse.
Man picked a very strategic time to retire.
Bodybuilder here. Former d1 collegiate sprinter.
PED use is rampant, even at a lower university level. I never used anything while running but began using anabolics a few years after retiring from track.
From what I understand now about leveraging pharmacology for performance enhancing purposes, it is very easy to evade detection, given compound selection.
Bio-identical hormones and peptides are the name of the game.
Undetectable, as long as you keep aromatase inhibitors out of the equation.
Chances are, he was given the wrong drug, or let his EPO, which is a natural occurring hormone, go out of range.
I think the more likely of the two is he was given an EPO analog that wasnt biodentical, and therefore easily detectable on blood test. That doesn't even take into account the other shit he was probably running.
Everyone is on something.
Ran with Zane about a month ago in kenya before he broke his leg, craziest part is how he was bagging everyone else for doping during the run. Such an amazing guy and athlete, sad too see it all go.
The brothers live completely different lives up there, so convicting them both of doping is a little bit unfair.
Projection + creating a narrative that "everybody does it, so it's only equalising the playing field".
@@QronoZ713 hes right tho
@@QronoZ713 thats not what projection means…
Projection is saying someone else has a (negative) emotion, when it is actually you that have that emotion but you don’t want to deal with it
@@lumtreboreople are projecting their ideology (everyone cheats) to onto all athletes because some athletes were caught.
You don’t want to deal with it 😂
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu thats still not projection though, just because you used it in a sentence doesn’t mean you are using it correctly.
People assuming everyone cheats because some athletes were caught is called speculation, not projection.
If a person stated that everyone else feels guilty about cheating, but it is actually themselves who (secretly) feel guilty about cheating, but they wont admit it to themselves or others. That would be projection.
For example, if 2 years ago Zane said “I bet John Smith is cheating and feels like he has no other choice”, but it was actually Zane who feels that way. With hindsight we could assume Zane was projecting his feelings onto John Smith. Because it was Zane who really felt that way
Simply making an assumption (good or bad) based on evidence (strong or weak), isn’t projection.
EPO is sometimes used to treat anemia. The problem is that there is a lot of corruption in Kenya; I remember seeing a documentary about how widespread it was for doctors to supply EPO to athletes, and anti-doping officials were taking various forms of bribes. I think that perhaps the only way to effectively enforce doping rules is to have an international organization for out of competition testing.
I agree. Leaving it up to individual countries is not working
So he used Kenya to get ahead in his career and then quickly pointed finger to them when he's in trouble. Very typical...
Where do you think he got his drugs from (he is living in Kenya)?
@@greg12145 yes, but that have nothing to do with the freaking hospital staff, he knowingly took them and instead of owning his shizz, he tried to screw a whole establishment, typical colonizer behavior, "I didn't do it, these incompetent savages did".
@@greg12145 so obviously, it’s Kenya’s fault...so every drug user on the planet can blame the country they live on for their choices...👍🏾
@@mdavidom5903 Relax, I think he was implicating his brother through a different way! You took it that way... he was channeling... Capish? Another way of saying his brother isn't clean either... but he's getting the worse for the ware!
@@greg12145 ?? Whatever bro. My response was sarcastic, and to you, not the op.
...And may the best chemist win.
Erythropoietin is a type of protein called a growth factor. It is used to treat a low number of red blood cells in extreme cases (a form of anaemia) due to cancer or other medical conditions. That is it’s medical use but yes it is most known for its PED use due to its effectiveness in endurance sports.
I’m on Recormon 4000 twice a week but that’s because I’m running with end stage renal failure and on dialysis. Without EPO, my haemoglobin will fall to low 7. Everytime it reaches 11, my doctor reduces my EPO amount to prevent my blood from becoming too thick, which may bring about thrombosis and stroke. Why would anyone healthy be playing with EPOs and risking their overall health is beyond me...
Fame, glory and money.
Sorry to hear you are going through all that. In re: to EPO, steroids, HGH, and insulin (used by bodybuilders), it is all very dangerous if used incorrectly for performance enhancement. And it's dangerous even if you feel you're informed and think you are using it at the correct levels/frequency, because guess what....you or your coach might have it wrong. But that said, these top athletes think they have it down to a science in reaping the performance enhancing benefits and avoiding detection in tests, and it's so widespread, they need it to compete at top level, retain sponsorhips, and earn money, so that's why so many do it.
2 times Olympic marathon runner and multiple national champion of Denmark Abdi Ulad was also caught doping recently.
Doping is so rampant in distance running and it's good to see the governing bodies catching up just a bit recently.
Sad man. Hate to see this in the sport.
Happens all the time. In fact, I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural.
They are all doing it lol
This really sucks to keep seeing so many runners busted for doping, as much as I love the sport the more I learn about it the more it seems everyone is cheating
Kipchoge's pacers doped to the eyeballs can't keep up....
With big money prizes it's an enticement to cheat unfortunately.
Tip of the iceberg, its been going on for a long long time! you would be suprised there are training methods using this crap then they get off it to clear body for race.
Dude went to Kenya to find out their secret... well...he just let everyone in on that so called "secret" 😂
You said "they were doping" but Jake is still clean. As they live separately I still have hope as a New Zealander that Jake is clean, although his brother has put a large shadow of doubt over him now. Runners can also incur a 4 year ban for seeking coaching from Zane which is just, wow
Hope springs eternal, but the whole Kenyan T&F programme is overrun with PEDs. Kenya forms part of a small group of countries that is at risk of being excluded from international competition due to a high number of positive results and a lacks domestic drug testing programme.
@@gustaaf1892 Not just that but being ban from even allowing athletics even in country at all was the last I heard, so nobody could get contracts from the big shoe or clothing companies making running apparel at all. This might help other countries nearby that are good at distance running in other African countries but are not cheating as bad as Kenyan runners even bosting white or Asian countries like Japan who have produced a few good distance runners in recent years.
I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural.
Exactly. This pantomime farce is just silly. They’re all using PEDs.
Exactly. It’s who gets caught
@@gatorfishin3079 Yup
My guess is None of the non wind aided 100M times below 10.00 seconds are completely natural from birth to setting record. In my opinion. I may be wrong.
@@andre1987eph Trayvon bromell ran a legal sub 10 in highschool i’d say it was natural. Now professional level athletes I don’t know about that.
So sad, I am a New Zealander, and I thought our athletes were clean. 😢
Same
lol, hardly any elite athletes are clean. There are only those who are caught and those who manage to slip through the cracks.
Did you think they were clean because they don’t win?
I'm sure every country has athletes that cheat. Its more common that you might think.
How naive you are Harold.... lol
This news hits me hard! I've always really respected Zane and his brother for how hard they seemed to work and how much they were seemingly willing to give up by leaving NZ to move to Kenya.
So disappointing :(
They ALL trainmvery hard.... dooing give them the last boost to break their performance. One thing does not mean the contrary...but they all risk and some of them got caught
EPO was created and is primarily used for cancer patients and other patients who are red blood cell deficient.
We hear about it a lot in the endurance sports world because it effectively increases performance in these activities however that’s not what it is made for and it can be deadly in the wrong doses. Elite athletes using EPO usually have a doctor involved in the program for this reason.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Did WADA switch to the detection method developed by Martin et al in 2021? That can detect maintenance microdose up to 48 to 72 hours later. Prior to that, a 2011 paper said it's 12 to 18 hours.
Such a shame. New Zealand has been a great inspiration for me. I model my coaching on Arthur Lydiard and Peter Snell, who in 1962 ran the 800 in 1:44.3 on the back of marathon training.
When you finally realize most top pro runners dope now a days. It's just who gets caught and who doesn't
Question is how common is all of this Kenya. Was he doping before he got there, or did he pick up on the fact that a ton of Kenyan runners were doping too and so living and training in Kenya wouldn't ever be enough.
EPO is routinely used in hospitals and outpatient for people on dialysis or who have chronic kidney disease.
Can confirm epo is widely used in the hospital often for those experiencing renal failure or severe anemia as they body no longer maintains physiological epo levels
Sometimes people want success so bad they cheat. Ok a lot of the times. I'm not even sure I trust any "records" anymore.
yep.including spring board shoes that nike has somehow managed to push through. Id anything is an erogenitc aid its those shoes.
Still surprises me how many people still think most olympians aren’t on some type of steroids. Almost all are, they just don’t get caught. Having had many Olympians as couches they all same the same thing, it’s just too easy to not get caught.
And if it’s easy to get away with and yet so many as still getting busted, just imagine how many are actually on them that don’t get caught.
How do we know most are? That would clear up a lot of speculation.
Although I follow pro endurance athletes and admire them, I'm suspicious of everyone, especially the best. I'm careful not to hold anyone to high on a pedestal as I think it's reasonable to believe that there are many performance enhancing substances, techniques, etc. that just can't be detected yet.
yeaa but I think it's possible to achieve these times clean, looking at how much the training has evolved...but ofc there are always some that try to take shortcuts.
I'm at the point where I assume all the top athletes are on the gear. Some just have a better PED programme than others.
Can you do a recap on the Peter Bol saga. I’d like to hear some educated analysis of a positive A test and atypical B test, surely this is out of the ordinary.
The worst excuse I ever heard in my life about doping 🤬
The worst I’ve heard is Olympic sprinter Dennis Mitchell blaming his failed test for abnormally high testosterone on too much sex and beer !!!
surely the worst one was when Lashawn Merritt said he was trying to make his penis bigger
EPO actually has been used in the treatment of covid 19, but either way, you have to know better as a runner competing at such a high level.
Oh shut up..making excuses lol
At that level they all cheating, same as with any other physical competition. Some get caught, some won't.
@@davidh5429 I like to give the benefit of the doubt, but you may be right.
@@davidh5429not every professional athlete is on drugs
I remember i watched documentry of these twin brothers many years ago when they moved to Kenya.
This is what happening when you are independent athlete, when Rupp and Mo trained with Salazar, no one of them been caught. They knew how the system works. I can just imagine if that kind of humble guys using doping, 100% others athletes on doping as well, they are on a doping, what, at the moment, is not in a wada list. This is sad!! There is no justice in the world and even in a sports, no justice,
because of people like Zane
Was Rupp doping?
This is not surprising at all.
Exactly. I’d be more surprised if anyone was natural.
@@goingmyles7681 Yes, your point is…?
@goingmyles7681 the truth hurts doesn’t it
@@ccbgaming6994 I know huh?
@@kovy689 I think he is saying you keep saying that.
Athletes should have to test monthly. Steroid use in professional sports is ridiculous nowadays.
#notgoodforthesport
You indicated that they have up so much by moving to anther country. I would argue that they saw it a gaining so much to be among the best and it worked out. Zane became famous as a result and has been well compensated as a professional athlete.
Hilarious end to Robertson brothers.
One of them, the other so far is clean read what the poster put under his name.
Wow. Shame. More to come.
Lawrance Chernono shocked me the most 2:03 is soo good
Being a banned for that long yeah he did the right thing and retire.
This makes me sad on many levels :(
This drug cheat is a hypocrite for accusing other athletes of taking drugs, yet he is a drug cheat himself.
Am so happy to be honest, I wish more athletes can be found 🙏🏼.
Some of us look stupid when we talk about Kenyan doping
Love your videos man. I'm just wondering, do you or anyone in the comments think Mo Farah was doping?
for sure he was.
They were huge inspirations to us all. So so sad
LOL
When athletes go on "High Altitude Training", the emphasis seems to be on the high part, high on drugs and being as far away from the doping testers as possible, rather than the training part. It's an unfortunate consequence of this celebration of being first that so many people are prepared to sacrifice their long term health such as getting chronic arthritis in their 30s and kidney disease just so they can get a more fancy pb.
They do where abouts testing randomly so they don't escape drug testers. Some countries might though
“They famously moved to Kenya, because in East Africa, that’s where many of the best doping programs exist”
Fixed it …
I seriously doubt that the top 1000 athletes in any sports doesn't dope.
He took advantage of Kenya's woes to shield himself the embarrassment😮
Epo is definately used medically, why would you not look that up before making that statement?
probably a strategy to make people comment
You mean to tell me that the guy who was willing to do anything to win like moving to kenya. Was actually willing to do anything to win? What is this world coming to.
Silly to pretend the use of PEDs isn’t rampant in T&F. It’s who gets caught.
wrong brother in the thumbnail?
Kenya & Ethiopia need to be held accountable for their lack of testing standards and frequency of testing
They absolutely do not have the money to dope or check for doping out there in those countries.
@ Then they shouldn’t be allowed to compete internationally
They are all doping in some way... In every sport at the top level.
Yep. It’s silly to keep pretending otherwise.
Doesn't surprise me one bit. Everyone is on drugs, including Kipchoge
Bullshit, leave Kipchoge out of this
Yep. Marathon record at age 37? Too good to be true, IMO. Shelly-Ann Frasier Price run at her best in her mid-late thirties? Yeah. Too good to be true. East Africa and Jamaica drug testing is just not there.
Honestly that’s true for every distance
I still believe in innocent until proven guilty. I'm not going to judge one man's actions by another
Why would you be a fan of a sport if you think everyone is doping?
Bu bye, Zane. Armstrong's story, a cancer survivor, was wonderful and compelling...until it was not. Cheaters are a scourge.
It ain’t cheating if everyone is in on it. Humans are limited. A lot of these “super natural” times & performances have been normalized to the degree where many arrogant/ignorant fans don’t question a thing. Super hero believers; a mindset that has been ingrained in many since childhood stage; to believe and look up to super heroes. So of course, many will do everything and anything to dismiss any allegations or to even think that the “super hero” they look up to isn’t a super hero at all, but merely human being with some ability who’s willing to do whatever it takes to be successful. Anyone that has done thwir due diligence knows and inner-stands, in todays day n age, passing a drug test is as ez as a,b,c’s unless one is really careless, gets ratted out, or they didn’t play wada a % of their running earnings in a timely manner like a former pro attested to me.
I'm not saying that Jake is clean, but maybe you should use Zane's workout footage and not Jake's.
There can be no tolerance for doping. It is so antithetical to intended spirt of true sports competition. Wining at all cost has be spiritually band, It is destroying our collective character for competition and fair play. Winning at all cost has become an epidemic. Many Americans need their moral compass recalibrated. Politics, business and sports are under attack driven by greed and avarice…
That’s Jake on thumbnail not Zane. Wouldn’t shock me if he gets caught too.
Athletes dont go to Kenya just to train running but to also train in doping. Kenya is notorious for very lax out to competition testing.
Where would someone find EPO. Asking for a friend
This guy has a massive ego. Not surprised.
Also, most of the patients on hemodialysis receive EPO routinely due to anemia caused by decreased EPO production in kidneys and mechanical blood cell damage due to hemodialysis. And many other "positive" uses in medicine mentioned in previous comments :). There is no such thing as performance enhancing drugs invented for the sake of being doping. All the tested for doping drugs have very specific use in medicine for ill patients.
Not as Zane's excuse, but everybody knows that in Kenia almost everyone uses EPO as performance enhancing drug as it's cheap, accessible and running is the only way out of poverty for many people so they ready to do anything just to have a chance in their life. Theoretically, when Zane came to get a covid shot, a nurse misunderstood him and just administered a dose of EPO as they use to do for all the other "patients" in this runners clinic :). But it's a bit of stretch...
Man, this really sucks
And nobody dares to talk about the real problem. In Kenya doping is widespread. Everybody knows this.
Kenya again... hope it's not because is systemic, but just a coincidence or the fact that the competition there is so steep.
Dude is from New Zealand the fuck he moved from Kenya a while back.
Sadly, several dozens of professional cyclists died of heart failure in the 90’s when the the doping doctors hadn’t yet figured out the protocols for EPO. Using these cyclists as lab research animals, they refined the protocols to prevent death and then the techniques to prevent detection. Armstrong never tested positive. So to those that say doping is not harmful are ignorant of the facts. Serena Williams has almost died twice because of doping.
I hadn't heard about Serena, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. What drugs was she on?
@@gustaaf1892 that is a question for Serena. When she went pro with her sister, they both shared the same frame. Both were world class. Serena past her sister and was achieving success. Then she lost to Sharipova and the transformation began. She exhibits all the physical and behavioral traits of steroids and testosterone use. HGH could also be a factor. Her frame now rivals most male tennis players. Very prone to injury which she managed by limiting competition. Limiting competition also minimized testing. Her best defense against testing though was becoming a celebrity that promoted the WTA. That is how Armstrong really beat the testing. The UCI didn’t want their star to fall and the WTA likewise didn’t want their key star to fall. Long live Steffi Graf, the true all time champion.
@@dieseldan5189 All of that makes perfect sense. I've long suspected her of steroid use because of her built and strength, as well as her longevity.
@@dieseldan5189you’re FOS! Serena is a small woman. She’s like 5’10 and weighs 150. That’s a size 8 for women.
Her transformation begin because she aged. Venus has always been lanky and Serna is built thicker like her mother and sisters. None of them are small women.
@@mssha1980 5’10 is quite tall for a woman. Every top athlete in every single pro sport is doping, don’t try to convince yourself otherwise. It’s still pretty much an even playing field since they all do it.
HEAR ME OUT.. Distance athletes receive lengthy bans from T&F compared to Sprinters/Field Athletes. A few American Sprinters have been hit with smaller sanctions/fines. 🤔
Move to Kenya and get on the EPO’s
So many runners getting done in Kenya. This needs to be looked into.
yes, the promotorz & coachez who make $$$$ offuv the athleetz shud recieve lifetime banz,..........
I think he is being used as a scapegoat to deflect attention from other sponsored doping, 8 years for something nearly all distance runners take? All it does it make the competition scared while the sponsored athletes enjoy a uncontested advantage
Everyone is doping in Africa. Nobody gets out of competition tested. That’s why everyone goes there to train
Why ur showing Jake in the photos and thumbnail?
One of the great doping excuses. Let's be clear. Nobody injects epo into their shoulder.
There are a lot of epo positives from Kenya so it's not hard to figure the truth
Your UA-cam cover photo is a photo of Jake not Zane and so much of the video footage is of Jake running on his own?! You really should change it!
I didn't want to believe this :-(
Every track athlete who dominates in a way that looks ridiculous IS DOPING. It does not matter that sport it is.
Hello, why do you act surprised to see that people are juicing?
No surprise he was given EPO when he went to Kenya. There are some big athletics countries which do not perform proper doping testing for their homegrown athletes inc. Russia, Kenya and Jamaica. These athletes know the odds of being tested at home are v small, so dope and hope not to be caught at a big meet
Extremely disappointed in this news. That said, you say “they”! It’s not fair to tarnish Jake also. Unless you have proof, or you turn out to be right it’s not fair.
I think that’s jake in the thumbnail
“He would *not* be 41 until”. Not “he would be 41 until.” Content great as always, grammar still needs work.
What? "He would not be 41 until" doesn't make any sense. Better to say something like "he will not be able to compete until he turns 41".
Reread your post
Hey you can talk about doping and put kenyan runners in the video. Are you trying to insinuate something?
Maybe because Zane Robertson literally lives and trains in Kenya with Kenyan runners so you'll get footage of him running alongside Kenyan teammates??
@@LMAOMAOMAOMAOMAO that should stop. if he had no videos of him training alone no need to put other clean athletes on it. This video has been highlighted. KOT will take this up just the way they did with CNN. No insinuations wanted.
😢 disappointed
Now I wish they would catch Shelley Ann Fraser Pryce…. Miss running personal bests in 100 and 200 a full ten years after her previous PB’s. And was not running that fast before the pandemic.
Jamaican T&F fans live in denial and refuse to believe that any of their athletes dope. They try to convince themselves that their athletes from a small island with relatively few people are superior to the rest of the world.
I say it often to think that 3 girls from a country of 2million are going to be the fastest in the world is statistically impossible and SAF was not that fast as a senior in college then in 1 year bang...she is world champ!
@@Krogtheclown exactly, but people don’t like those statistics. Even USA would have 1 major sprinter at a time but never 3
I have to disagree if you have been watching shelly ann throughout the years her from has improved, she always had a fast start but she used to get caught at the line everytime, she’s learned how to better maintain her top end speed which is why she’s having personal bests at her age
@@jaydenbowles2588 Ya if only everyone could learn to get faster lol. Show me another girl at 21 who got .6 faster in 1 year? that's over 6m!
Okay guys. Let me be very clear. Every top athlete doing doping.
I’m a international and professional sprinter, that went to the olympics in 100m 2021. And i know people personally that are doing doping for both the 100 and 200m.
I have made this UA-cam account only to let people know what’s going on
Pics or it didn't happen.
I am Usain Bolt's secret juice supplier. I supply the finest juice to the greatest athletes in Jamaica back in my day. That is the reason why there were so many fast Jamaican runners in the 2010s. Once I retired, look what happened now to our athletes.
You really really should have checked online for the medical indications for EPO usage. 👎🏾. I’m surprised he was using something so old school when there are newer less easily monitored drugs. Still it’s nice he was caught. Considering the number of athletes worldwide very few fail drug tests……that we know of
Around half of your video was of Jake Robertson, even when you weren’t showing the brothers running together. Let’s be clear - It is only Zane Robertson who has tested positive for EPO doping. There are no grounds for implicating his brother Jake. Yes, they are identical twins but you should have taken more care when selecting which video to show.
It’s not that hard to tell the difference between the two brothers.
Most obvious: Jake wears his watch on his right wrist; Zane on left.
Different hair styles.
Jake runs more “upright”…
Whatever footage you can get legally you use. I am glad you were able to distinguish what he was showing.
No way you can look like that and have your organs work properly. All lungs
It's normal for long distance runners to be built like that. Once you get to the point where you can easily run 6 -10 miles a day your muscles become closer to looking like that plus their fat levels are really low making it really easy to see all the details. Also add specific weight routines in that are aimed specifically for long distance runners. Problem is you get really skinny, and fo r most people that's not very attractive.
People defending him and making excuses are delusional to what is going on with it he sport. This is happening literally everywhere
Eliud is next? Kenya seems to be revealing there secrets to why older athletes there are doing well.
He will never get caught, his big team is far to smart
no, its totally normal to run 2:55 pace for a marathon and not even be puffed at the finish line (sarcasm intended)
And more is coming 🤣
Kenyan paper trails run quicker than the athletes my bro…. Kenyan athletic corruption is deep and can be expensive
I just think all top athletes dope.
If you don't dope you won't cope
we all hope!
EPO iz DANGEROUS,.... i know we are in a different era & medicinez have improved/evolved but MANY athletes in.the 80z & 90z died at veery yioung agez after using that drug... even if some1 guaranteed me a world record i wuddn't touch the stuff.... life iz too precious & az far az we know thissiz our only time around....
Sorry you are out😢😢