it dépends on the person, @@Clearsignalwellness when the person has no integrative structures when back home or otherwise cannot change his/her life because personal resources are lacking, the effectiveness is reduced. Still , it definetely helps with death anxiety, to my opinion.
"The opposite of spiritual is not material, is egotistical". This has been for long overlooked and seems a necessary correction of the mainstream narrative. Good lock!
spiritual often seems about the ego to me. "I'm getting messages from the devise creator" and "we pass into the afterlife and live for eternity" are two of the most refined, egotistical statements one could make.
They need to come up with a new term for it then, because for millenia, spiritualism has been directly connected to religious dogma. I mean spirits themselves have to do with the wandering souls of dead people (IE-religious bs)
I would imagine most agnostics would say there aren't souls or spirits as well. As anyone with a logical mind doesn't believe in things with no evidence. There is no physical evidence of a soul or a spirit existing within the human body. Science is not a form of faith, if you believe it is, then we all know where you fall on the religious spectrum. I guess I suppose I should've used the term "hypothetize", rather than believe, but anyone with a speck of intelligence knew what I was talking about. You don't start off believing everything that everyone says until someone proves a negative, you have things backwards. Attempting to shift the burden of truth onto others when they (usually religious individuals) are the ones making the inherent claim that souls do in fact exist.
To be frank, I'm not the one making the definitive claim, the individuals that insist that a soul or spirit exists are, the burden of truth ONLY exists upon them to provide evidence or "proof". See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot for an example of how ridiculous this thought process is. Or the Hitchens quote, "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
That's a silly comment. So cynical. Medical science is frustratingly slow - even more so when the government has a panicky reaction to "drugs" for 50 years. But there are countless medications which we have discovered and invented in the past 140 years which help people, as you should know. Psychedelics were made illegal because they scared enough of the wrong people at the wrong time.
YES. I'm a medical student who recently finished reading this book, and I absolutely LOVED it. Having a history of mental illness, anorexia, binging, depression, the ideas in this book really elucidated the mechanisms of mental illness. As I am training my mind to see it as a "snowy hill" (the analogy described in the book), I am learning to see that where thoughts go, energy flows. I also am trying strategies to reduce blood flow to my DMN, such that I can be more fully conscious, present in the beauty of life. Also created a youtube video on this if anyone is interested in a summary! It's called "what psychedelics taught me about mental illness"
Well, my immense respect for Michael Pollan has reached new heights! His curiosity about life is leading him to ask all the right questions and explore truly profound subjects. So impressive.
23 years ago I had a full blown kundalini awakening after taking psilocybin. It dramatically changed the understanding I have of myself, the world and my place in it. I was an atheist up to that point, but afterwards couldn't deny that there is a benevolent entity that at the source of all things. It speaks to us incessantly and its language is love. I no longer fear death, which gives me a totally different perspective on life. The experience changed my life in ways I can not begin to describe. I wish there were more education about psychedelics and spirituality, because there is obviously still a lot of misplaced prejudice and ignorance around.
If I may? How could you trust that the internal psychedelic experience you had purports to reality? How can you trust that the experience you had if god was reliable or accurate? I ask because different accounts of different dirties exist and how am I or anyone supposed to be convinced by that?
@@brandonEAgnew2002a little late but from my personal experience. It just feels very real, not a dream. No way to communicate that feeling convincingly and it could be argued it was just the brain chemically experiencing something but I still would say it was very real and true. I don’t think anyway to convince you without you having a first person experience.
I loved the book. I've read McKenna, Castaneda, Huxley, etc. So when I heard that a man who was famous for his books about food had written a book about his underground experiences with psychedelics, I was intrigued, but skeptical. I think I finished it in 2 days! It's an excellent read. Thank you, Michael Pollan!
I have just bought it. I did three ayahuasca ceremonies a few weeks ago and it's been an amazing experience. I'm such a fan of psychedelics and so I can't wait to read his book. I have bought also one of McKenna's books. I'm so fascinated by this subject.
@@blackmamba6046 True Hallucinations? McKenna? That one is farrrrrrrrr out there! I still enjoyed it a great deal. I hope you enjoy the Pollan book as well. There's also a Graham Hancock book on the topic as well. Take care (wish I was able to be more involved in all of this currently, but life just isn't permitting that right now. P.S. Graham Hancock has some decent videos on YT about Ayahuasca. Gabor Mate is another who has really been a pioneer on the topic. I wish I could attend a few ceremonies myself ~ very much. I have been in the realm by taking a homemade variant, but the ceremonies with proper guidance & company would be far superior. I hope your journeys continue to be fruitful (-:
I've done acid and mushrooms a few times many years ago. I always loved it and enjoyed doing them. Never had a "bad trip" although felt kinda paranoid at times temporarily but that was in response to any strange "alien" environment. I would do them again in a heartbeat if I could.
@@quadq6598 so pls give me a hand here, before my doctor convince me to take all sorts of pharma drugs to keep me under control and not actually fix my issues. May I send you my email?
I wouldn't say cured, but it definitely drastically reduces symptoms and allows you to process your emotions and situation more easily. Yes! It's annual for me
YellowFellow Honestly for a while I would say I was cured. I wasn’t depressed, I was able to accept things better, didn’t have panic attacks, for a few months. I’m just not able to get them as regularly as I’d like.
YellowFellow Okay I agree with you. Maybe cure is a bit too strong of a word. I would rephrase and say I felt more aware and in control of my emotions.
I had come to the same conclusion about time being past present and future all at the same time. It is quite apparent that we do not live in a clockwork universe.
When I was young (16 to 25) I used Psychedelics all the time. My feeling is that they are such a personal experience that making them just a clinical tool, taking them out of the hand of the voyager is, to my mind, an OK thing, but they should be available to everyone. I would never take a Psychedelic with a "guide". I don't recommend that stance for anyone but me but for me it works.
Sadly it’s extremely hard to find. Most of the “LSD” that’s being sold today are low-quality analogs that provide some nice visuals but not the same mindset. Look up Hoffman’s trip report or the video of the woman who did acid during the 60s from less than 150ug and compare it to your own experiences. It’s a completely different substance.
@Beautiful Actually today it's far easier for people in the West to find and purchase extremely pure psychoactive substances, including LSD-25. This is due to the proliferation of deep web drug markets that utilize consumer reports (user reviews), and third-party escrow payment holding services to hold sellers to their word far better than a "street" seller is held accountable, which is basically not at all. In the past, purchasers had no power and dealers on the street could put all sorts of analogues, inactive substances, or even poisons in their products and the user would be unaware until ingestion (unless they had access to GC/MS or HPLC chemical testing equipment or a test kit). Because of these Amazon-like drug markets, the purchasers of drugs are empowered over the sellers, because the marketplace is fundamentally structured to reward honest sellers who ship accurately-labeled, pure substances and punish dishonest sellers who ship laced or inaccurately-labeled substances.
"Hofmann's Potion" is a really good documentary about the LSD research that was going on before the sixties put an end to it all. It's here on YT for anyone who might be interested (-:
I think any psychiatrist handling these sessions must have experienced high doses of psychedelics himself at least 5 to 10 times before giving these therapies. There's no way they can ever guide anyone if they don't know what it's like. Anyone willing to argue me on this: don't. I'm right on this one.
Kind Old Raven I believe that 100% I’ve introduced several people to these experiences and I had to guide more then my share and I know that I could do a better job curing they’re issues then any psychiatrist with a pen and pad who hasn’t been into the inner consciousness themselves
I am very glad that pyschoactive substances are being researched again. All these drugs should be legalized so that they can be taken in a safe and legal set and setting, with the proper dosage and guaranteed quality. As the AI machine age is approaching, our biological brains and their capacity to experience consciousness are still the best guarantee against losing our humanity.
I seriously need to find my way to the "underground community" since just like Mr. Pollan, I fell in the "normal" category and therefore not allowed to participate in the research study. One of my bucket list in life is to have this spiritual experience that I have been longing to experience because I know I will be blown away by the idea of seeing myself as part of this great universe. If anyone who is reading this with proper information, please email me. I know the right ones will come along. :-) for the record, I am seeking to be High but rather for spiritual enlightening and awakening...
@@natureheals2 I wish there is one that is not so costly. If the intention is for spiritual enlightening, there has to be a community that governs such community.
It’s definitely true that the use of psychedelics inhibits authoritarian and conservative beliefs, and while that was a problem in the regimented days of the 60’s, i think we’ve come to a place as a society today where we value individuality and originality more than conformity and order. Psychedelics have the potential to promote those qualities that we need in an increasingly rapidly changing world, and I think they might be the only way for us as a species to avoid running off the cliff.
If you are misinformed will be a good talk... You should learn more about the origin and cultures that practised healing with SACRED PLANTS and no middle man required just the Shaman or Curandero and the person subject to be healed and SACRED NATURE of this practices.
Expected more about how psychedelics interact with serotonin or other receptors in the brain and how they modify them. I didn't completely finish the video, but so far it's just a guy talking about things he heard from someone else.
This experience he is sharing is so clinical and formulated it's like everything organic and sincere about the mushroom experience was lost and sadly he is totally unable to identify this. It's like he read the textbook on what your end goal is during the trip and then executed it and is holding up the A+ he got for it
If considered that CG Jung already described those experiences in much more sophisticated details and in scientific psychological research almost 100 years ago, should make those gentlemen feel rather humble considering that they are leaders of a talk which barely scratches the surface. Terrence McKenna would have a lot to add to their questions, he also took his learnings mostly from CG Jung. The gratitude Jung receives from the world of psychology today is "We have gone beyond those old timers and no longer need them" Modern psychology as it stands is the least informed on matters of the subjective mind and is acting like a bratty child in the sphere of the spiritual experience. How they can seriously raise the question of the distinction between the here and now and the "otherworldly" as a supposedly new question is quite sad. When the distinction between the temporal and the non temporal, of the experience that is linked to our life time in relation to the experience of the millions of years of natural development and then the transcendent on top of it, the subjective and the collective etc. , has already been elaborated in such a rich manner throughout time and again in great detail by Jung. Re-ligio ...linking back to the source, means to connect with a collective aspect if existence which did not come to be through our subjective ego but is an aspect of the experience of life which we all share and have shared for millions of years. Yes that collective entity is in fact a "source" tp which we need to connect if we don't want to lose our little minds that have been around for only a few years in relation to the eternal. If you steer a boat across the ocean and decide to ignore the waves that naturally occur on it, you will end up in serious trouble.
I have always wondered why the beings described by trippers are not definitely referred to as Archetype. I suppose it may be more complex than that, because the beings are purported to communicate profound revelations, but perhaps encountering them is not nessecary for a mystical experience.
You are asserting that Jung's theories perfectly fit and describe psychedelic experience. I don't recall Jung ever making that connection, which (by the way) still remains to be proven. Psychology is still young. The behaviorist reaction to psychoanalysis was a strong one, but likely an essential "course correction" If psychological science eventually progresses to establish that Jung's theories were, in fact, accurate, that would be a massive development. It probably won't be that he was 100% correct. (That's always unlikely if you look at the history of science or intellectual history.) But partially with some corrections and clarifications? Why not. Now, go prove it and you'll change the lives of countless people. That's the hard part.
I think it's interesting that people talk about psychedelics changing consciousness. Psychedelics change what, or how, we experience but the consciousness which has the experience is the one thing which remains constant in all of this.
Well is consciousness an extant thing separate from experience? Or is consciousness the totality of individualised experience? If the latter is the case, then psychedelics changing an experience of reality is definitionally changing consciousness.
I had this thought too. i think I am among the many people who would be more willing to try psychedelics for therapeutic purposes, if there wasn't so much sloppy spiritual and mystical hokum which surrounds it. All that jabber makes it very hard to come to a concrete understanding of how I might respond.
Congratulations to everyone who healed something with psychedelics. Unfortunately there have also been a lot of people who have had terrifying experiences with psychedelics from which they never returned and did permanent damage. Please be careful and responsible with this.
Good talk, though I find it hard to imagine someone taking psychedelics and not in the very least suspecting the existence of the universal mind. To think of the brain as the source of consciousness as opposed to it being a function of consciousness says to me that these exploratory missions he was undertaking didn't go nearly far enough to completely breakthrough the illusionary subject/object boundaries of ego based perception... As an adventurous writer I give him an A+.. As an explorer into the deeper realms of consciousness I give him a C-
Man I know what he is saying about not looking in the mirror. Had the exact same experience. Wonder what it is about that?? Same also with looking around just to make sure reality still existed.
Dr. James Fadiman in his book 'The psychedelic explorer's guide' actually recommends the guide to try to use a mirror on the person who's tripping. Emphasis on the word try. But really I just think that you're timid about seeing your face melt away, haha.
Recommendation: set up your tents among the trees, not too far from the lake, in a provincial camp ground on the May 24th long with a few hundred of your high school peers and drink a bottle of Old Sailor or two while sitting round the fire in your dozens singing House of the Rising Sun with acoustic guitar accompaniment so that when you wander down the lane to take a pee in the brush, you are in a mood to kiss the pretty girl sitting on the hood of the car in the next campsite and swallow the innocent looking little piece of blotting paper with the picture of a three-eyed-toad impressed upon it which she fetches from the nefarious looking driver of the long, wide, low, grey, Chevy which had been slowly, slowly crawling up the lane through the smokey twilight mist. Later, when your floating upside down buddha shaped self image wrapped in green fog rights itself and slowly extends, one-at-a-time, feet to the ground and the fog lifts, your adventure with the sphinx and the glowing jewel bedecked trees and the noble lions who are your brothers, is about to begin.
I've noticed so many complaints in these RI talks comments sections, I liked this talk, it's not perfect, but these topics are still "taboo" so they can be hard to convey and discuss
Thank you. We're always looking for new voices and new topics to add to our events programme. Not everyone can like everything we put out, and that's OK.
This video has a BIG problem with getting quieter and quieter as it progresses, and it's not the only video from RI that I've noticed sound problems with. Someone at the RI needs to hire a competent audio engineer.
Props to Michael for speaking from his perspective and sharing. He is just personally speaking, to non-spiritual scientists as a way to shift and share perspective. Give yourself a chance to lower YOUR ego and be less judge-mental, jeez your acting like this dude is the freaking devil. Hes just sharing information so if you knew it already then move on. There are older people who could use someone like him, maybe more relatable to understand.
Having a spiritual experience, (here described if not defined as being "egotistical" rather than material.. This concept was demonstrated if fact to be material. For example, I drove your car right through the intersection while admiring the red color of the traffic signa. We discovered there was a material reality that indeed existed outside of our realm of perception. It was that physical , material reality of which neither the police authorities nor your insurance company, ever held any doubt. I on the other hand would never try to drive MY car when tripping.
@@ems7623 I know...that was a super nice ride you had that got T-boned...on your side...by that poor tempered Chicago bull who was acting like he was needed somewhere else....sorry.. I mean how many times can I keep being sorry? Those blue lights got me confused when I was looking at the red one...really...
What are the evolutionary paths for mushrooms that make psilocybin? People talk about the effects on us, but what does the mushroom do with it? Defence against eating doesn’t seem plausible...
Tripping is not for idiots. Knowing the fact the universe works like a gear box is vital. Having depth, basic understanding and wisdom is the key. Example: Edison or Tesla. DC Comics or Shakespeare. Who had your best interest in mind?
Strange claim - It was actually a new word coined in 1956 by British psychiatrist Humpry Osmond in correspondence with Aldous Huxley - He noted that it means 'mind manifesting' - "To fathom Hell or soar angelic, Just take a pinch of psychedelic" It is actually a incorrect spelling and blend of older greek terms...
Im an immersion journalist. I wrote about the cattle industry, so I bought a single cow. WTF does raising a single cow have to do w industrial beef production?
Bach's must be the most powerful, soul touching music ever created. And if you want your heart to melt, just look for his Erbarme dich, mein Gott aria, from St. Matthew Passion.
I'll give your recommendation a listen, but the one he referenced during his trip was boring and far too jittery to be emotionally sad. It just seems rambling.
yes i politely disagree. Terrence had alot of the psychology talk, experience discussion, but Pollan bridges modern standards of clinical research and trials to close the stigma and allow the FDA to bring these medicines to the public. There is no claims without evidence with him. I respect that. Its not always about talking about experiences. In order to get controversial medicines pushed through, we need scientists and work done by people like Pollan. Gotta appreciate that
We appreciate Pollan's contribution and also had the chance to meet Robin at the Science of Consciousness conference in Tucson, AZ. A worthy conference to check out. We are interested in altered states of consciousness as our channels deals with the intersection of science and experience. We also like to combine ideas with composition. Our latest experience in music. www.reverbnation.com/11thstory/song/29877029-psychonaut
All drugs give, and all drugs take. How will you feel when the psychedelic experience normalizes and you find out that life isnt about laying in your sweatpants and feel super-comfortable. Namaste
After a mushroom trip, you feel absolutely amazing the next day and really great for months after, its not like other drugs that take you away from reality, it connects you to it.
Experiencing eternity or what certainly passes as this regardless of our adapted shortcomings has for me been a very less than enjoyable ride, inside a grinding three-dimensional repetitive turning of the reality endlessly repeating on itself and doing this forever, the term "forever" knowingly happening not as a idea or notion but hard realization gives a Hellishness not leaving me with a desire to ever have this experience again. The cliche' of "time not existing" compounded to a unique permanence I'm not so sure it didn't take me a few lifetimes to escape. I'm left with the question; was it worth it?
'don't think' then Micheal 'Start Feeling for the change' 'let it blossom let it flow' - Eric Clapton the collective consciousness will revealed ✌🏽❤🙏🏽😌
I understood that on a personal level. My latest 540ug lsd trip, everywhere I looked, especially my copper bird cage was just, like he put it, jeweled with light. It was mesmerizing. All different colors everywhere
i have done amazing physical triumphs during trips... i am not physically able to do while sober... also ive been to another planet... it was purple, and two men on a mountain, showed me a slide, full of purple cells... anyone make sense of this?
It is possible to see your life as being both dead and alive simultaneously since time extends back (before you were born) and forward infinitely (beyond your death) you can see it is all the same.
Just to expand on this as I think it is really key to the clinical therapeutic use, how it dissolves the ego, which is that it is possible to see and reconcile the fact that ......1. You were not yet born, just infinite potential. 2. You are alive in this moment, the present. 3. You are dead, long dead. All happening simultaneously.
Nobody needs to go to deep Amazon forest to have acess to ayuasca. It is a lot cheaper go to Brasília, brazil´s capital, where you can find a lot of religious center that drink ayuasca (Daime tea). You can go to Chapada dos Veadeiros also, one of the most beatiful waterfall in the world are there.
45:21 This question is the big scary question. I doubt most governments will be on board with this even though it has great potential in fighting mental health.
Why does every experience have to be reduced to scientific understanding? “Serious professionals” pshh... just get a good friend who you trust to spend the day with
exactly! Science is all based on human theory anyways... we're all human with perspective what makes scientists evidence more valuable? Like ancients have used these plants for a reason they don't need science proving it to them. I'm glad you said that.
From watching random videos on various subjects leading onto more,somehow it's lead me to dmt and psychedlics. id never even heard of dmt 3 months ago.is this the universe calling me☺ i find it really fascinating and one love to experience it.
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If you watch thias video for the potential benefits of psychedelics, thats for you then. But if you want to learn how and why psychedelics do it;s magic, you wont find much info in the video. It lacks frontier science.
I would like to get involved in research. I definitely have PTSD, but not from war time, and depression... Nothing else qualifies me clinically, otherwise I'm a 'normal'. Due to being poor and having no course of psychotherapy, I have regulated myself using psychedelics for over 10 years. I can tolerate higher doses then I believe most 'normals' can, which could be seen as a benefit. One thing I don't completely understand is why Scientist insist on trials for illegal psychedelics. There are plenty of psychedelics that aren't illegal and could have little to no restrictions to research???? Makes no sense really...
To answer your last point. It's obvious, focus on the illegal ones because the systemic classification of such substances is flawed and due to that flaw we may be losing access to compounds that have true medicinal/therapeutic value.
@@SelcraigClimbs You are contradicting yourself. Unless 'Losing Access' implies them being taken out of existence. Then 'lost access' has already taken place; being made illegal. Unfortunately due to misinformation and a complete lack of understanding by the public many compounds have been made illegal without any rationality under the guise of 'Research Chemical'. When IMO the gov. took the opportunity to just go through PHIKAL and list all the Shulgins work. . . real shame.
From childhood I have ability to catch the story tellers visual fellings of the kara - tar and even I can visuals the landscape and other things as told by story tellers.. I have share such felling with my friends and everybody aggress but just like me other friends do same felling only they need to know they can... Is it problems or natural...
A rule in mental healthcare is that someone only has a "problem" if their behaviors and perceptions are causing significant problems in their life. It sounds like your unusual perceptions do not cause you any such problems. What you describe is probably a form of hallucination which, medically-speaking, is part of a psychosis you experience. Many people inaccurately believe that all psychotic experiences are dangerous, but that isn't true. Some people (perhaps you) are not caused any distress by them. Do not worry unless your experiences change into something that causes you significant problems living your life. In the meantime, enjoy them.
the popping out and in of the mask is by will on thc..^^ .....i knew i heard the guy on sams podcast.....its a taboo that deserves a scientific and mainstream in depth discussion................but....... arent thoose old akademic guys and grade a students like sam who took 2 or 3 trips in school just too sweet?^^ " uh uh..i got something interesting here!" yeah dude... so have the underground community and virtually all other cultures besides your own and a few others ( who just thought they knew better and forgot^^) for nearly the last several thousand years..but hey....^^ just details^^ you even mention yourself^^..sry but i feel like my father is trying to sell me this totally new invention that is absolut fantastic and neat and fits in your pocket and if you push that button right there there comes a little flame out of it!!!! can you believe it??? ;) lol,,yeah dad its a miracle.;) ....................also isnt it just a wonder how enough money and the right connections can let you have this experience totally legal where as the normal guy can land in prison for a better part of his life for attempting the same and thinking he has the right to choose over his own body ?
That little red guy on my left shoulder says give them a healthy dose and no guidance, then lock them all up with the album "we're only in it for the money" by Frank Zappa and the Mothers, then repeat, until they beg for forgiveness.
Any LSD stats on people who think themselves, god? I saw a video of a guy saying he melted into the god who knows how everything works. He is teaching LSD and other drugs is a way to become a god. If you lose your ego that's who you really are, god.
how unimportant? "Plants have chlorophyll and can produce their own food, fungi live off others, and they cannot produce their own food" ....so.... quite important then, hmm?
@Tom and courgettes and butternut squash are fruits as they contain seeds and are produced for the purpose of the plant to reproduce, but hey we could argue semantics all day :)
Psychedelics cured my suicide depression and got me focused on my life again.
It is temporary.
Generic Girl really? Cuz I had an amazing psychedelic experience 5 yrs ago and I’m still happy :). Perhaps it depends on the person 🤷🏽♀️
it dépends on the person, @@Clearsignalwellness when the person has no integrative structures when back home or otherwise cannot change his/her life because personal resources are lacking, the effectiveness is reduced. Still , it definetely helps with death anxiety, to my opinion.
@@Clearsignalwellness Good on you.
@@JibberJabJones NO man I am spewing the facts out here.
"There are times when the poets get there first". That´s amazingly beautiful
"The opposite of spiritual is not material, is egotistical". This has been for long overlooked and seems a necessary correction of the mainstream narrative.
Good lock!
spiritual often seems about the ego to me. "I'm getting messages from the devise creator" and "we pass into the afterlife and live for eternity" are two of the most refined, egotistical statements one could make.
They need to come up with a new term for it then, because for millenia, spiritualism has been directly connected to religious dogma. I mean spirits themselves have to do with the wandering souls of dead people (IE-religious bs)
"Concerned with or affecting the spirit or soul" is inherently religious. Almost all atheists do not believe humans possess a "spirit" or a "soul".
I would imagine most agnostics would say there aren't souls or spirits as well. As anyone with a logical mind doesn't believe in things with no evidence. There is no physical evidence of a soul or a spirit existing within the human body. Science is not a form of faith, if you believe it is, then we all know where you fall on the religious spectrum.
I guess I suppose I should've used the term "hypothetize", rather than believe, but anyone with a speck of intelligence knew what I was talking about. You don't start off believing everything that everyone says until someone proves a negative, you have things backwards. Attempting to shift the burden of truth onto others when they (usually religious individuals) are the ones making the inherent claim that souls do in fact exist.
To be frank, I'm not the one making the definitive claim, the individuals that insist that a soul or spirit exists are, the burden of truth ONLY exists upon them to provide evidence or "proof". See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot for an example of how ridiculous this thought process is. Or the Hitchens quote, "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
No wonder why they are illegal. They help people
If top comment still existed, this would be top comment
That's a silly comment. So cynical. Medical science is frustratingly slow - even more so when the government has a panicky reaction to "drugs" for 50 years. But there are countless medications which we have discovered and invented in the past 140 years which help people, as you should know. Psychedelics were made illegal because they scared enough of the wrong people at the wrong time.
Great comment!
YES. I'm a medical student who recently finished reading this book, and I absolutely LOVED it. Having a history of mental illness, anorexia, binging, depression, the ideas in this book really elucidated the mechanisms of mental illness. As I am training my mind to see it as a "snowy hill" (the analogy described in the book), I am learning to see that where thoughts go, energy flows. I also am trying strategies to reduce blood flow to my DMN, such that I can be more fully conscious, present in the beauty of life.
Also created a youtube video on this if anyone is interested in a summary! It's called "what psychedelics taught me about mental illness"
Well, my immense respect for Michael Pollan has reached new heights! His curiosity about life is leading him to ask all the right questions and explore truly profound subjects. So impressive.
this should be every individuals goal
23 years ago I had a full blown kundalini awakening after taking psilocybin. It dramatically changed the understanding I have of myself, the world and my place in it. I was an atheist up to that point, but afterwards couldn't deny that there is a benevolent entity that at the source of all things. It speaks to us incessantly and its language is love. I no longer fear death, which gives me a totally different perspective on life. The experience changed my life in ways I can not begin to describe.
I wish there were more education about psychedelics and spirituality, because there is obviously still a lot of misplaced prejudice and ignorance around.
If I may? How could you trust that the internal psychedelic experience you had purports to reality? How can you trust that the experience you had if god was reliable or accurate? I ask because different accounts of different dirties exist and how am I or anyone supposed to be convinced by that?
@@brandonEAgnew2002a little late but from my personal experience. It just feels very real, not a dream. No way to communicate that feeling convincingly and it could be argued it was just the brain chemically experiencing something but I still would say it was very real and true. I don’t think anyway to convince you without you having a first person experience.
I loved the book. I've read McKenna, Castaneda, Huxley, etc. So when I heard that a man who was famous for his books about food had written a book about his underground experiences with psychedelics, I was intrigued, but skeptical. I think I finished it in 2 days! It's an excellent read. Thank you, Michael Pollan!
I have just bought it. I did three ayahuasca ceremonies a few weeks ago and it's been an amazing experience. I'm such a fan of psychedelics and so I can't wait to read his book. I have bought also one of McKenna's books. I'm so fascinated by this subject.
@@blackmamba6046 True Hallucinations? McKenna? That one is farrrrrrrrr out there! I still enjoyed it a great deal. I hope you enjoy the Pollan book as well. There's also a Graham Hancock book on the topic as well. Take care (wish I was able to be more involved in all of this currently, but life just isn't permitting that right now.
P.S. Graham Hancock has some decent videos on YT about Ayahuasca. Gabor Mate is another who has really been a pioneer on the topic. I wish I could attend a few ceremonies myself ~ very much. I have been in the realm by taking a homemade variant, but the ceremonies with proper guidance & company would be far superior. I hope your journeys continue to be fruitful (-:
I've done acid and mushrooms a few times many years ago. I always loved it and enjoyed doing them. Never had a "bad trip" although felt kinda paranoid at times temporarily but that was in response to any strange "alien" environment. I would do them again in a heartbeat if I could.
Well why not just go online & buy some, could not be easier
@@quadq6598 so pls give me a hand here, before my doctor convince me to take all sorts of pharma drugs to keep me under control and not actually fix my issues. May I send you my email?
Here's my two cents, a few shrooms cured my depression in high school.
Histewy Cured mine in college. I still think everyone should do shrooms twice a year.
I wouldn't say cured, but it definitely drastically reduces symptoms and allows you to process your emotions and situation more easily.
Yes! It's annual for me
YellowFellow Honestly for a while I would say I was cured. I wasn’t depressed, I was able to accept things better, didn’t have panic attacks, for a few months. I’m just not able to get them as regularly as I’d like.
YellowFellow Okay I agree with you. Maybe cure is a bit too strong of a word. I would rephrase and say I felt more aware and in control of my emotions.
here's my shrooms, two cents got me another bottle of coca cola, cured my thirst temporarily
I've watched many many videos and documentaries about psychedelics, but man, this talk was the most enjoyable one.
Ahati Kalindi is the truth
I had come to the same conclusion about time being past present and future all at the same time. It is quite apparent that we do not live in a clockwork universe.
When I was young (16 to 25) I used Psychedelics all the time. My feeling is that they are such a personal experience that making them just a clinical tool, taking them out of the hand of the voyager is, to my mind, an OK thing, but they should be available to everyone. I would never take a Psychedelic with a "guide". I don't recommend that stance for anyone but me but for me it works.
UA-cam comment sections would benefit greatly from putting LSD in the water...
Sadly it’s extremely hard to find. Most of the “LSD” that’s being sold today are low-quality analogs that provide some nice visuals but not the same mindset. Look up Hoffman’s trip report or the video of the woman who did acid during the 60s from less than 150ug and compare it to your own experiences. It’s a completely different substance.
@Beautiful Actually today it's far easier for people in the West to find and purchase extremely pure psychoactive substances, including LSD-25. This is due to the proliferation of deep web drug markets that utilize consumer reports (user reviews), and third-party escrow payment holding services to hold sellers to their word far better than a "street" seller is held accountable, which is basically not at all. In the past, purchasers had no power and dealers on the street could put all sorts of analogues, inactive substances, or even poisons in their products and the user would be unaware until ingestion (unless they had access to GC/MS or HPLC chemical testing equipment or a test kit). Because of these Amazon-like drug markets, the purchasers of drugs are empowered over the sellers, because the marketplace is fundamentally structured to reward honest sellers who ship accurately-labeled, pure substances and punish dishonest sellers who ship laced or inaccurately-labeled substances.
@@Beautifulcoil its super easy to find, you can even get similar lysergamides legally online
yes definitely
@@raptornugget5385 more so there isn't any good acid
Was on the fence about tripping today.. then this autoplayed while I was doing something else so there's my sign.
SySnacc how did it go? Tell us about it
"Hofmann's Potion" is a really good documentary about the LSD research that was going on before the sixties put an end to it all. It's here on YT for anyone who might be interested (-:
Yeah, I just watched it. Very informative.
Mega Kudos to folks like Micheal Pollan, who use their relative celebrity for the greater good!
I love this topic! I had just finished my cotton candy flavour Ice Cream when I saw this video. I'm so high.
I think any psychiatrist handling these sessions must have experienced high doses of psychedelics himself at least 5 to 10 times before giving these therapies. There's no way they can ever guide anyone if they don't know what it's like. Anyone willing to argue me on this: don't. I'm right on this one.
Kind Old Raven I believe that 100% I’ve introduced several people to these experiences and I had to guide more then my share and I know that I could do a better job curing they’re issues then any psychiatrist with a pen and pad who hasn’t been into the inner consciousness themselves
This is mind blowing! ....or should I say, Mind Manifesting?
‘There are times when the poets get there first’ nice quote, il use that👌
I am very glad that pyschoactive substances are being researched again. All these drugs should be legalized so that they can be taken in a safe and legal set and setting, with the proper dosage and guaranteed quality. As the AI machine age is approaching, our biological brains and their capacity to experience consciousness are still the best guarantee against losing our humanity.
I seriously need to find my way to the "underground community" since just like Mr. Pollan, I fell in the "normal" category and therefore not allowed to participate in the research study. One of my bucket list in life is to have this spiritual experience that I have been longing to experience because I know I will be blown away by the idea of seeing myself as part of this great universe. If anyone who is reading this with proper information, please email me. I know the right ones will come along. :-) for the record, I am seeking to be High but rather for spiritual enlightening and awakening...
Very simple :look for an ayahuasca retreat
@@natureheals2 I wish there is one that is not so costly. If the intention is for spiritual enlightening, there has to be a community that governs such community.
It’s definitely true that the use of psychedelics inhibits authoritarian and conservative beliefs, and while that was a problem in the regimented days of the 60’s, i think we’ve come to a place as a society today where we value individuality and originality more than conformity and order.
Psychedelics have the potential to promote those qualities that we need in an increasingly rapidly changing world, and I think they might be the only way for us as a species to avoid running off the cliff.
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Good talk.
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If you are misinformed will be a good talk...
You should learn more about the origin and cultures that practised healing with SACRED PLANTS and no middle man required just the Shaman or Curandero and the person subject to be healed and SACRED NATURE of this practices.
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Good input
If you want to be scientific, then looking at the same problem from multiples ängles or states of consciousness seems like a great idea.
Yep. Ya can't get a good take on a sculpture without looking from more than one angle.
Expected more about how psychedelics interact with serotonin or other receptors in the brain and how they modify them. I didn't completely finish the video, but so far it's just a guy talking about things he heard from someone else.
Read Terrance McKenna’s “Food of the Gods” for the shroom and DMT info u seek! Audible has it as an audiobook...loved it
Then you need to watch more of the vudeo
This experience he is sharing is so clinical and formulated it's like everything organic and sincere about the mushroom experience was lost and sadly he is totally unable to identify this. It's like he read the textbook on what your end goal is during the trip and then executed it and is holding up the A+ he got for it
@Guerrero Stella one of a kind results that can never be repeated
@Guerrero Stella a tripping syllabus will be provided for anyone interested
If considered that CG Jung already described those experiences in much more sophisticated details and in scientific psychological research almost 100 years ago, should make those gentlemen feel rather humble considering that they are leaders of a talk which barely scratches the surface. Terrence McKenna would have a lot to add to their questions, he also took his learnings mostly from CG Jung. The gratitude Jung receives from the world of psychology today is "We have gone beyond those old timers and no longer need them" Modern psychology as it stands is the least informed on matters of the subjective mind and is acting like a bratty child in the sphere of the spiritual experience.
How they can seriously raise the question of the distinction between the here and now and the "otherworldly" as a supposedly new question is quite sad. When the distinction between the temporal and the non temporal, of the experience that is linked to our life time in relation to the experience of the millions of years of natural development and then the transcendent on top of it, the subjective and the collective etc. , has already been elaborated in such a rich manner throughout time and again in great detail by Jung. Re-ligio ...linking back to the source, means to connect with a collective aspect if existence which did not come to be through our subjective ego but is an aspect of the experience of life which we all share and have shared for millions of years. Yes that collective entity is in fact a "source" tp which we need to connect if we don't want to lose our little minds that have been around for only a few years in relation to the eternal. If you steer a boat across the ocean and decide to ignore the waves that naturally occur on it, you will end up in serious trouble.
I have always wondered why the beings described by trippers are not definitely referred to as Archetype. I suppose it may be more complex than that, because the beings are purported to communicate profound revelations, but perhaps encountering them is not nessecary for a mystical experience.
You are asserting that Jung's theories perfectly fit and describe psychedelic experience. I don't recall Jung ever making that connection, which (by the way) still remains to be proven.
Psychology is still young. The behaviorist reaction to psychoanalysis was a strong one, but likely an essential "course correction" If psychological science eventually progresses to establish that Jung's theories were, in fact, accurate, that would be a massive development. It probably won't be that he was 100% correct. (That's always unlikely if you look at the history of science or intellectual history.) But partially with some corrections and clarifications? Why not. Now, go prove it and you'll change the lives of countless people. That's the hard part.
I think it's interesting that people talk about psychedelics changing consciousness. Psychedelics change what, or how, we experience but the consciousness which has the experience is the one thing which remains constant in all of this.
He meant "reality" and not Consciousness. Psychedelics changes your conscious view of reality.
Well is consciousness an extant thing separate from experience? Or is consciousness the totality of individualised experience? If the latter is the case, then psychedelics changing an experience of reality is definitionally changing consciousness.
I had this thought too. i think I am among the many people who would be more willing to try psychedelics for therapeutic purposes, if there wasn't so much sloppy spiritual and mystical hokum which surrounds it. All that jabber makes it very hard to come to a concrete understanding of how I might respond.
@@SelcraigClimbs I don't think consciousness and experience can realistically be separated.
@@neilcreamer8207 I agree. thus it would be the case that consciousness is altered in these states.
Congratulations to everyone who healed something with psychedelics. Unfortunately there have also been a lot of people who have had terrifying experiences with psychedelics from which they never returned and did permanent damage. Please be careful and responsible with this.
Good talk, though I find it hard to imagine someone taking psychedelics and not in the very least suspecting the existence of the universal mind. To think of the brain as the source of consciousness as opposed to it being a function of consciousness says to me that these exploratory missions he was undertaking didn't go nearly far enough to completely breakthrough the illusionary subject/object boundaries of ego based perception... As an adventurous writer I give him an A+.. As an explorer into the deeper realms of consciousness I give him a C-
Yes. Many are called, but few are chosen.
There are times when poets gets there first 💐 Bath of love! Beautiful quote ❤️
Man I know what he is saying about not looking in the mirror. Had the exact same experience. Wonder what it is about that?? Same also with looking around just to make sure reality still existed.
Maddox Bromley 100% agree. Anytime I’ve ever been high, I can’t look into a mirror. It freaks me out if I do.
Dr. James Fadiman in his book 'The psychedelic explorer's guide' actually recommends the guide to try to use a mirror on the person who's tripping. Emphasis on the word try.
But really I just think that you're timid about seeing your face melt away, haha.
Recommendation: set up your tents among the trees, not too far from the lake, in a provincial camp ground on the May 24th long with a few hundred of your high school peers and drink a bottle of Old Sailor or two while sitting round the fire in your dozens singing House of the Rising Sun with acoustic guitar accompaniment so that when you wander down the lane to take a pee in the brush, you are in a mood to kiss the pretty girl sitting on the hood of the car in the next campsite and swallow the innocent looking little piece of blotting paper with the picture of a three-eyed-toad impressed upon it which she fetches from the nefarious looking driver of the long, wide, low, grey, Chevy which had been slowly, slowly crawling up the lane through the smokey twilight mist. Later, when your floating upside down buddha shaped self image wrapped in green fog rights itself and slowly extends, one-at-a-time, feet to the ground and the fog lifts, your adventure with the sphinx and the glowing jewel bedecked trees and the noble lions who are your brothers, is about to begin.
I've noticed so many complaints in these RI talks comments sections, I liked this talk, it's not perfect, but these topics are still "taboo" so they can be hard to convey and discuss
well said mate, thanks for that, really. People complain to much when these others are actually trying to do their best.
Thank you. We're always looking for new voices and new topics to add to our events programme. Not everyone can like everything we put out, and that's OK.
@TV you too.besides if you have 100 workers,10 of them do half the work anyways.
"If people knew, the society would embrace it". Yeah but Big Pharma would never allow such a big market (like antidepressants) to be lost
This video has a BIG problem with getting quieter and quieter as it progresses, and it's not the only video from RI that I've noticed sound problems with. Someone at the RI needs to hire a competent audio engineer.
It's just the acid, man.. just flow with it
If I had any, it wouldn't be a problem.
Props to Michael for speaking from his perspective and sharing. He is just personally speaking, to non-spiritual scientists as a way to shift and share perspective. Give yourself a chance to lower YOUR ego and be less judge-mental, jeez your acting like this dude is the freaking devil. Hes just sharing information so if you knew it already then move on. There are older people who could use someone like him, maybe more relatable to understand.
Treatment resistant depression here. Where do you even go to find an underground guide?
Having a spiritual experience, (here described if not defined as being "egotistical" rather than material.. This concept was demonstrated if fact to be material. For example, I drove your car right through the intersection while admiring the red color of the traffic signa. We discovered there was a material reality that indeed existed outside of our realm of perception. It was that physical , material reality of which neither the police authorities nor your insurance company, ever held any doubt. I on the other hand would never try to drive MY car when tripping.
You are mixing up the definitions of perceptual, spiritual and egotistical.
@@ems7623 I know...that was a super nice ride you had that got T-boned...on your side...by that poor tempered Chicago bull who was acting like he was needed somewhere else....sorry.. I mean how many times can I keep being sorry? Those blue lights got me confused when I was looking at the red one...really...
What good is knowing this if you can't get any mushrooms?
What are the evolutionary paths for mushrooms that make psilocybin? People talk about the effects on us, but what does the mushroom do with it? Defence against eating doesn’t seem plausible...
Where can I meet these underground guides
Yes please. How about something to help us in the here & now.
A little bit of research online and you’ll eventually find the white rabbit to follow. ;)
Search for meetup groups. There’s one that I found in Toronto.
I don't know one, but I will after her residency.
Mojo Jojo Toronto? Where exactly?
Now I know how Carlo Rovelli got his insights on time!
Tripping is not for idiots. Knowing the fact the universe works like a gear box is vital. Having depth, basic understanding and wisdom is the key.
Example: Edison or Tesla.
DC Comics or Shakespeare.
Who had your best interest in mind?
the word “psychedelic” is greek for “soul revealing”
Strange claim - It was actually a new word coined in 1956 by British psychiatrist Humpry Osmond in correspondence with Aldous Huxley - He noted that it means 'mind manifesting' -
"To fathom Hell or soar angelic, Just take a pinch of psychedelic" It is actually a incorrect spelling and blend of older greek terms...
not even close
I doubt it. Though most english words have greek or latin origin. So partial credit.
Mark Freeman it’s well documented in the literature
the last 20 mins were much more valuable than the rest of the clip.
Really? I've 20 minutes left and I was just about to leave. I hope you're right...
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 let me know if I was
@@jasongrig Yes you were. 😀
Im an immersion journalist. I wrote about the cattle industry, so I bought a single cow. WTF does raising a single cow have to do w industrial beef production?
Does spiritualism have to be bound with mysticism? I consider myself spiritualist but I have no microgram of mysticism...
The guy who explains psychedelics to yuppies
Bach's must be the most powerful, soul touching music ever created. And if you want your heart to melt, just look for his Erbarme dich, mein Gott aria, from St. Matthew Passion.
I'll give your recommendation a listen, but the one he referenced during his trip was boring and far too jittery to be emotionally sad. It just seems rambling.
great book by the way, half way through so far
Another great speaker on this subject is Terence Mckenna....imo nobody really comes close..
Edited.
Each speaker gives a unique perspective and provides countless ways of looking at one subject
yes i politely disagree. Terrence had alot of the psychology talk, experience discussion, but Pollan bridges modern standards of clinical research and trials to close the stigma and allow the FDA to bring these medicines to the public. There is no claims without evidence with him. I respect that. Its not always about talking about experiences. In order to get controversial medicines pushed through, we need scientists and work done by people like Pollan. Gotta appreciate that
Your comment in itself is one dimensional.
Your comment is highly egotistical, signalling lack of psycehdelic experience. You are now a coat of paint. Sleep.
Yeah but him being dead for years is somewhat problematical
We appreciate Pollan's contribution and also had the chance to meet Robin at the Science of Consciousness conference in Tucson, AZ. A worthy conference to check out.
We are interested in altered states of consciousness as our channels deals with the intersection of science and experience. We also like to combine ideas with composition. Our latest experience in music. www.reverbnation.com/11thstory/song/29877029-psychonaut
17:05 has someone a link to this "face"?
Hey everybody!🌈
You can buy Magic Truffles legally in Amsterdam or online 🐵📡👽
All drugs give, and all drugs take. How will you feel when the psychedelic experience normalizes and you find out that life isnt about laying in your sweatpants and feel super-comfortable. Namaste
After a mushroom trip, you feel absolutely amazing the next day and really great for months after, its not like other drugs that take you away from reality, it connects you to it.
If you think a psychedelic experience is "super comfortable" you've never had a breakthrough experience
Experiencing eternity or what certainly passes as this regardless of our adapted shortcomings has for me been a very less than enjoyable ride, inside a grinding three-dimensional repetitive turning of the reality endlessly repeating on itself and doing this forever, the term "forever" knowingly happening not as a idea or notion but hard realization gives a Hellishness not leaving me with a desire to ever have this experience again. The cliche' of "time not existing" compounded to a unique permanence I'm not so sure it didn't take me a few lifetimes to escape. I'm left with the question; was it worth it?
Are you trying to say you had a bummer?
Loved this guy on the Waking Up podcast and JRE.
London Real also had Michael Pollan on, likewise a great conversation.
'don't think' then Micheal 'Start Feeling for the change'
'let it blossom let it flow' - Eric Clapton
the collective consciousness will revealed
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thats so odd the location of here fear and hopelessness lines up with the asociated chakra interresting
"Everything jeweled with light"
I understood that on a personal level. My latest 540ug lsd trip, everywhere I looked, especially my copper bird cage was just, like he put it, jeweled with light. It was mesmerizing. All different colors everywhere
i have done amazing physical triumphs during trips... i am not physically able to do while sober... also ive been to another planet... it was purple, and two men on a mountain, showed me a slide, full of purple cells... anyone make sense of this?
The only person that can or should make sense of your trips is you.
It is possible to see your life as being both dead and alive simultaneously since time extends back (before you were born) and forward infinitely (beyond your death) you can see it is all the same.
Just to expand on this as I think it is really key to the clinical therapeutic use, how it dissolves the ego, which is that it is possible to see and reconcile the fact that ......1. You were not yet born, just infinite potential. 2. You are alive in this moment, the present. 3. You are dead, long dead. All happening simultaneously.
People who have had near death experiences describe something similar
Nobody needs to go to deep Amazon forest to have acess to ayuasca. It is a lot cheaper go to Brasília, brazil´s capital, where you can find a lot of religious center that drink ayuasca (Daime tea). You can go to Chapada dos Veadeiros also, one of the most beatiful waterfall in the world are there.
45:21 This question is the big scary question. I doubt most governments will be on board with this even though it has great potential in fighting mental health.
anyone have a link to the chelo music they are referring to?
THEIR IS NOTHING BETTER THAN A GOOD TRIP TO CLEAN YOUR SOUL OUT
"Revolution is useful when the oppressed become tyrants." - Jenny Holzer
33:52 Insight in 3...2...1...
44 minutes in and still haven't heard anything about the science of psychedelics. Time to let this clip melt away.
Why does every experience have to be reduced to scientific understanding? “Serious professionals” pshh... just get a good friend who you trust to spend the day with
exactly! Science is all based on human theory anyways... we're all human with perspective what makes scientists evidence more valuable? Like ancients have used these plants for a reason they don't need science proving it to them. I'm glad you said that.
I feel ya, but its interesting to hear how, lets say, smart ppl filter their experiences
From watching random videos on various subjects leading onto more,somehow it's lead me to dmt and psychedlics. id never even heard of dmt 3 months ago.is this the universe calling me☺ i find it really fascinating and one love to experience it.
Woul d*
A better title might be, "The Subjective Subject of Psychedelics"... with a scientist adjacent.
Someone pls tell me how chocolate changes consciences pls
It was the best trip ever
Imagine eating shrooms Chocolate and having trip
You should try it
If you are looking for where to order for shrooms, Dmt, Lsd, psilocybin you can get them from @pat_shroomtrip on Instagram.
Highly recommended
Try him and thank me later 💯
I like these guys.
as someone coming from a 'too late' perspective, do I want to watch this?
Nope. Just woowoo pseudoscience.
bashpr0mpt established theories were pseudoscience before , dumb people every generation that dont understand how progress works
bashpr0mpt if you tried it yourself then your outlook on it will have completely changed.
If you watch thias video for the potential benefits of psychedelics, thats for you then. But if you want to learn how and why psychedelics do it;s magic, you wont find much info in the video. It lacks frontier science.
I quit drinking for two and a half years until my supply pf psychedelics ran out.
i wonder what Thiery David album or song he's talking about
Now I want a cup of coffee!
This is a good start, but it's too bad Pollan is still a materialist. Wonder how many trips he'd need to do to see the truth.
He certainly hasn't taken enough.
Vikings used these mushrooms, one thousand years ago. It's not like it's a new thing, even if it's new to every reporter.
Imagine having to go to war on shrooms
No one is claiming that they are new.
Can someone spell out that classical song he mentioned? I want to hear it...
I could be wrong, but i think it was Cello Suite No. 2 in D Minor
You can't be afraid of the reflection in the mirror.
27:40 Gordon Wasson was working for the CIA at the time for what would eventually become MKULTRA.
I would like to get involved in research. I definitely have PTSD, but not from war time, and depression... Nothing else qualifies me clinically, otherwise I'm a 'normal'.
Due to being poor and having no course of psychotherapy, I have regulated myself using psychedelics for over 10 years.
I can tolerate higher doses then I believe most 'normals' can, which could be seen as a benefit.
One thing I don't completely understand is why Scientist insist on trials for illegal psychedelics. There are plenty of psychedelics that aren't illegal and could have little to no restrictions to research???? Makes no sense really...
To answer your last point. It's obvious, focus on the illegal ones because the systemic classification of such substances is flawed and due to that flaw we may be losing access to compounds that have true medicinal/therapeutic value.
@@SelcraigClimbs You are contradicting yourself.
Unless 'Losing Access' implies them being taken out of existence. Then 'lost access' has already taken place; being made illegal.
Unfortunately due to misinformation and a complete lack of understanding by the public many compounds have been made illegal without any rationality under the guise of 'Research Chemical'. When IMO the gov. took the opportunity to just go through PHIKAL and list all the Shulgins work. . . real shame.
Take a trip without acid listen to the early Moody Blues Albums.
Take psychedelics and listen to them and you'll never be the same!! Lol!
@@TerryNails I have in the 70s changed my way of thinking forever
From childhood I have ability to catch the story tellers visual fellings of the kara - tar and even I can visuals the landscape and other things as told by story tellers..
I have share such felling with my friends and everybody aggress but just like me other friends do same felling only they need to know they can... Is it problems or natural...
A rule in mental healthcare is that someone only has a "problem" if their behaviors and perceptions are causing significant problems in their life. It sounds like your unusual perceptions do not cause you any such problems.
What you describe is probably a form of hallucination which, medically-speaking, is part of a psychosis you experience. Many people inaccurately believe that all psychotic experiences are dangerous, but that isn't true. Some people (perhaps you) are not caused any distress by them.
Do not worry unless your experiences change into something that causes you significant problems living your life. In the meantime, enjoy them.
Had to stop this and listen to that Bach piece.
the popping out and in of the mask is by will on thc..^^ .....i knew i heard the guy on sams podcast.....its a taboo that deserves a scientific and mainstream in depth discussion................but....... arent thoose old akademic guys and grade a students like sam who took 2 or 3 trips in school just too sweet?^^
" uh uh..i got something interesting here!"
yeah dude... so have the underground community and virtually all other cultures besides your own and a few others ( who just thought they knew better and forgot^^) for nearly the last several thousand years..but hey....^^ just details^^ you even mention yourself^^..sry but i feel like my father is trying to sell me this totally new invention that is absolut fantastic and neat and fits in your pocket and if you push that button right there there comes a little flame out of it!!!! can you believe it??? ;) lol,,yeah dad its a miracle.;) ....................also isnt it just a wonder how enough money and the right connections can let you have this experience totally legal where as the normal guy can land in prison for a better part of his life for attempting the same and thinking he has the right to choose over his own body ?
Would be far more interesting to do human tests with salvinorin rather than LSD.
Why all the controversey? Why is it even illegal?!
Because it's harder for the government to keep us domesticated if it's available
What they said.
Bach Cello Suite No. 2 in D minor:
ua-cam.com/video/Wa5yony2CeA/v-deo.html
What should the punishment be to those who have made & keep psychedelics illegal?
Give them a choice......jail or have a psychedelic experience.
That little red guy on my left shoulder says give them a healthy dose and no guidance, then lock them all up with the album "we're only in it for the money" by Frank Zappa and the Mothers, then repeat, until they beg for forgiveness.
Any LSD stats on people who think themselves, god? I saw a video of a guy saying he melted into the god who knows how everything works. He is teaching LSD and other drugs is a way to become a god. If you lose your ego that's who you really are, god.
@legalise nature why call it God then? If everything is "god", just call it "everything"
who is the younger guy?
I hate when someone calls fungi (mushrooms) plants.
how unimportant
how unimportant? "Plants have chlorophyll and can produce their own food, fungi live off others, and they cannot produce their own food" ....so.... quite important then, hmm?
@Tom and courgettes and butternut squash are fruits as they contain seeds and are produced for the purpose of the plant to reproduce, but hey we could argue semantics all day :)
Hating someone's imprecision is masochistic. (I don't have a problem with that - its your mind - but you could be kinder to yourself.)
@TV *it's, *don't