The least 'Honda' Motorcycle of all time
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Man, as much as I may not love this motorcycle I respect all of you having so much passion for it.
At least you're producing. Let us know if you're expanding your bikes personally owned and ridden.
I put 85000 miles on mine, it was meant to be ridden. It was a monster and I loved it, said I’d never sell it, but upgraded to a helicopter.
Damn so that’s the last upgrade huh 😅
That's quite the upgrade
The ruin is all the validation I need ...
Retro modern is a thing...
Gigachad
A Mosquito XEL. A bigger engine would be nice someday ……
I have owned the Rune since new, in 2004 I had lunch in Tokyo at Hondas World Headquarters with my 12-year-old son. Over lunch I indicated that I own a Rune, the one Japanese employee with his Japanese accent said. “Oh, Rune, we won’t sell many of those, only built for corporate image, to show what we can do!”
I always felt like many that was the reason for it being built. Honda donated a large portion of both the CX Turbo and CBX models to motorcycle tech schools across the country and in the late 80's the school I went to had 6 of the CBX models and 3 or 4 of the Turbo's. At the time they did not sell well they had a delayed popularity but I think it payed off and probably inspired the Ruin.
Yep. They did the CBX in the 70s for the same reason. And Kawasaki does the H2R for the same reason. It's more of a statement than a product.
@kenwise4596 thanks for the insight that's was very interesting..... by the way you have a fascist shit stain in your profile pic..... just thought I should let you know you've been hacked obviously..... hopefully
I saw a red one of these in a parking lot randomly a few months ago while I was out shopping. Had no idea what it was but it stopped me in my tracks, it was so beautiful. I had no idea how special it actually was until I got home and looked it up. What an incredible machine.
I think it looks like the motorcycle a villain would take on a weekend. The type of villain that during the week is being driven around in a Rolls Royce Phantom 1925. It's like an alternate reality motorcycle and I think that's awesome. Love it
I’m one of those Rune fanboys. Having owned one, all I can say is that you have to ride one to understand what all the fuss is about.
@r6singh probably why Fortnine was so in love with it, he actually got to ride it without the financial pain.
That's what I tell travellers about Montezuma's Revenge
Man ur hating on the bike so hard but honestly this think is fucking sick looking
How. Its so fat and un-proportional. It looks like a turd
@@bartmotorcycle Ayo hahahaha
@@bartmotorcycle In all seriousness though, i think what ruins it for me is the REAR, its what makes it look disproportional. Had the rear been better, it would have looked even better.
@@bartmotorcycle are you kidding? the Honda Rune is so proportional for what it's going for. a long bike with a deceptively short wheelbase and the heavy weight staying low in the body.
@@bartmotorcycle Well... I agreed with you when you disagreed with Fortnine about the Katana, which actually is a very "un-proportional" bike, but such a freaking beautiful beast. And now I will disagree with you on this. Cruisers aren't my thing, but the rune is beautiful beacuse of her soft lines of design on a massive body.
You're totally wrong about its looks. It's actually beautiful, and in a classic, Art Deco, Marvel Comics sort of way.
Look are subjective, but as a designer i can tell you, the proportions are atrocious, it could’ve been much much better, but imo it’s still cool in a strange way, kinda like a pontiac aztek or an imac g3 is
Yeah, beauty is in the eye of the beholder here, for sure. This thing looks ridiculous
Agree my husband had the black tank Valkyrie when it came out but wish he would have bought the rune.
One man's trash is another man's garbage.
It looks absolutely wrong, but somehow well-engineered. It's like someone making ludicrous vehicles from comic book but it feels and handles normal. Honda always done this with their 'failed' prototypes and unlikely to stop.
I love them and I wish I was rich enough to afford them.
Honda did something Harley Davidson could never afford to do
the day that HD can afford to blow that kinda money, is the day that Honda buys the company and says, "here, now you can afford to make a good bike"
To be fair Harley doesn't have a car industry to prop up pet projects.
@@Foche_T._Schitt Honda's car manufacturing and Honda's motorcycle companies fall under a parent company, but they are separate companies. They are not linked in that manner, not propped up by the other. Honda Motorcycle is a massive company with a massive budget all on its own. Maybe it seems like that way to an American, but keep in mind that only something like 7% of Honda motorcycles are sold in the US.
Honda did everything that Harley Davidson could have done but didn't. The only thing Honda didn't do was start a successful T-shirt company.
@@Chemically_Induced
Oh so you know for certain the parent company didn't fund this project and the manufacturing plants don't mix parts production?
Harley doesn't make mopeds, dirt bikes, scooters, sport bikes and everything else on every continent for the cheapest labor. Some of Harley's parts are sourced from Japan which parodies the US on labor costs. You going to make fun of Indian, Morgan, and Enfield for the same thing? It's a stupid criticism.
Hey Maytag why don't you make a ridiculously ugly motorcycle and lose money on it? That's the level of expectations you're operating on.
Don't think I'm a Harley fan boy. I hate corporations across the board and motorcycles over 500lb aren't my thing.
Honestly, the rune is in my top ten favourite bikes. I love it. I think it’s stunning!
i don't have the money to buy one, but, to me, the looks of the rune are really cool, and, judging from videos alone, the exhaust note is really satisfying. the styling makes me think "this is what a sci-fi anime character would ride". it makes me think of Akira, or Ghost in the Shell. the lines are so clean and that front suspension really makes the bike stand out.
I don’t want to own one or even ride one, but I love that the Rune exists. And I especially love that it still is interesting whether a person likes it or not. That’s the genius behind the $200m loss - decades of conversation among enthusiasts about Honda.
The Rune was a true work of art, and no manufacturer but Honda could produce it.
sorry man i disagree, the Valkarie is a classic, its proof honda are NOT afraid to do things different.
I remember when the Honda 305 Dream came out. We all thought they were sissy bikes. Forty years later I bought one at a junkyard for $100, did a partial resto and spent the next few years riding the snot out of it, commuting to work rain or shine. etc. Strangely enough, again and again young people would say: "What a cool bike! What is it?"
15:30 you aren't speaking for the majority there on its looks dude, its a nuts looking bike. Ive yet to keet anyone in person who doesnt like how it looks. Its just expensive
I'd say my attraction to the Rune is its exclusivity. Most Honda guys with hardly recognize a Rune from 20 feet
I’m glad you covered the Rune, it’s one of my favorite “wtf?” motorcycles of all time. Styling is a personal thing that varies wildly from one person to the next,though: I think all the classic Harley-Davidson styling is garbage, and the BMW R18 looks like an even uglier Milwaukee wannabe. I know that H-D purists are going to hate on me for saying that, and many of them might also hate me for saying that the V-Rod was the best looking model until the Pan America was introduced, and that’s ok. The Rune isn’t pretty, but it doesn’t copy anything either. Thanks for sharing this one with us, I’ll see you on the next one!😃❤
I agree. The V-Rod is the only HD I own and it runs circles around the stock Harleys moving and standing still.
Sorry mate, when you called the R18 beautiful all of your opinions became invalid.
The Honda Valkyrie Rune is the most beautiful cruiser I have ever laid eyes on. It has the beauty of a finely crafted skeleton automatic wristwatch. There is an element of beauty in how it showcases its complexity. The Rune is very much performance art. It looks just as good going down the road as it does standing still. It's futuristic and retro at the same time meaning it looks in place parked next to a 1950s classic car or a modern supercar. It is timeless. Few vehicles are so well designed that are beautiful for any age. The Honda Rune is such a vehicle.
I love that the Rune exists. I’m in my mid 60s, trolled all the local Honda dealers when it was due on the market, finally found one that had one in the showroom. It was mesmerizing. I do NOT see the BMW R18 as any kind of alternative.
I’m currently riding a Triumph Scrambler 1200 Xc. If I veer in the direction of a cruiser, it’ll likely be a Triumph Rocket 3. But I still Google “Honda Rune for sale” periodically, and I’ll never cross it off my “maybe someday” list. A ‘79 CBX is also on that list, but that’s a conversation for another day.
An acquaintance of mine is a very large man and he has 2 of these. They are one of the few bikes he can ride that don’t look he’s riding a kid’s bike. These are impressive in person. Pics and videos do not do it justice
If you grew up in the 70's and 80's this was the amalgamism of all that was good in cruisers
To me the Rune is the Ashley Graham of motorcycles. Simply gorgeous.
That rear fender is *hideous*...
you know what really irritates me, listening to some self-anointed youtube expert telling me that he is the arbiter who decides what i am supposed to think is beautiful especially when i've been polite enough not to rain on his parade every time he starts pontificating about how beautiful his rattle trap old triumph is. who died and left you in charge of deciding what's beautiful and what isn't...and the saying is "lost their ever-loving minds"
name checks out
Imagine getting so triggered by someone else’s opinion. You didn’t have to click on the video if you disagree this badly.
Yeah and the Hondog CB 500. Jake Courts (Daily Rider) also has only an '09 KTM SM 990 and also pontificates. Kinda wish both Bart and Jake would up their game and have at least 12 bikes on the road ranging from a '67 Yamaha 180 to '89 DT 50/LC and all the RD's and RZ's in between. Plus a smattering of modern bikes. I'm a nobody and that's what's here...all plated and turn key.
Truly Big, Bold, and Beautiful.
Front wheel is a bit tricky to remove for a tire change I can say from experience. I got the chance to do a basic service and change tires on one a couple years back and since they are somewhat rare I enjoyed the experience.
Can you make a video about the Simson S51
imagine thinking the BMW looks better than a honda Rune. wow.
If you go back to the 1950's they're way ahead in styling.
and the Rune can lean more than 2 degrees.
My stepdad had one of these in red in the late 2000s and rode the crap out of it. He put it in a local motorcycle show the summer he got it and won for "best stock motorcycle". I always thought it was a gorgeous bike in person. The only thing is my stepdad put a windshield and a ostrich skin seat with a backrest on his, which looked kind of silly in my opinion.
Love the Rune - saw one at Lake Powell while on holiday and it looks even better in the flesh - Has a strange but beautiful design. Beautifully made too!
I guess it's a generational thing. I for one love the looks of the Rune. Massive, bulky, muscled. Futuristic road hog with faux-classic styling. Reminded me of a series from around the same time where Western meets SciFi; Firefly. I was 27 when it came out and it's still high on my wishlist.
I’m no fan boy, but you need to give up making UA-cam bike videos if you don’t think the Rune is BEAUTIFUL.
The very first scene is in England at Boxhill just outside Dorking in Surrey , heading up the mad mile . People would get out into the central part of the dual carriage way to get a better view of bikers pulling wheelies up the road , i think this is late 80's
I saw two of them a while back at Alice's. I found they looked intriguing. I talked to their owners a bit and they really liked them and rode them a lot. One of them had a Peterbilt metal plate welded on the engine block. It was a terrible blemish on this sacred machine.
I’m 60 years old and even remember the concept bikes being shown before the Rune came out! I’ve seen them on the road and they have a very Flash Gordon retro-futurist vibe to them. I think there’s a very capitalist/business thinking to Motorcycle design. I’m glad Honda didn’t go in this direction because many other companies at the time did. Maybe your next research should be on failed Japanese cruisers and then you’ll appreciate the Rune a lot more mainly because it’s a collector’s item and they aren’t! 🤔👍🏾 Great stuff as always!
The Rune is such a special bike, just seeing one on the road is an event. I remember the only time i have seen one on the road, a true piece of art. I get the impression that the narrator doesn't like them, that's fine, but lots of people do like them, just read the comments. I'm not sure about owning one, but i do appreciate the styling and would love to have a ride on one.
It's an anime version of an American custom motorcycle 😅
That opening clip is from Mickleham/Box Hill in Surrey, England. There is a cafe there called Ryka's that claims to be the "oldest biker cafe" in England (possibly the world). It used to be one of the most popular spots for many bikers in the London and South East areas. Sadly, this year the police constantly set up camp there and ticket every single person with anything even slightly wrong with their bikes. So many patrols and mobile speed cameras too. They've pretty much ruined the fun.
I remember when these came out. Back in the mid-late 90's I had bought two brand new bikes from my local Honda-Suzuki dealer so I was always in the dealership for parts/accessories/tire kicking etc. There was a lot of talk at the dealership and the motorcycle press when the Rune was released. Personally, I thought it was quite ugly but I never rode one. I also LOL'd when you mentioned the R1200C. I forgot all about that one.
If you want to see a Honda Rune in person, there is one at the Seba Station motorcycle museum in Warwick, Oklahoma on Route 66!
Most halo projects tend to lose money for the company that produce them. See the Bugatti Veyron, Porsche Carrera GT, 918, Lexus LFA, etc, etc.
Saying you don’t get it, but invite those who do to explain their feelings and promising to keep an open mind is a wonderfully positive reflection on you. Congratulations.
09:47 notice how the Rune guy is arriving last, after everyone has already parked 😅😂🤷♂️
Don't know where you come up with the price but every where I have read the retail price was 25K .
I like it because it harkens back to the 1950's Art Deco movement not motorcycle history specifically. It reminds me of a mini locomotive for the road. The fact they ride as well as they do is insane. Its an engineering marvel just to produce it!
Rune has always been on the list of bikes I want to take for a ride.
I am not a motorcycle person. I did not know about this until now, but it is now my favorite cruiser bike.
It remains one of the bikes I want to own someday. I asked a local motorcycle trader if I could rent one for a week. They obviously said no because they still sell for 29k euro's in the Netherlands
My buddy owned one but hated to ride it so i got it for months. Simply loved it.
I was a parts guy as a kid. The Honda identification manual had me entranced. 89 & 90 were amazing years for Honda. I had many of those bikes on my bucket list and managed to own most of them. The Hawk GT (I had 3), the Trans Alp (I out about 30k on mine), GB500, ZB 50, NX650, and more. Then, later the Rune came out and I’ve lusted over it’s ridiculousness for years. It’s an absolute behemoth and I love that about it. In the words of Wayne Campbell, “it will be mine…. Oh yes, it will be mine,” I don’t know why, but I must put 30k miles one before I’m too old to hold it up. And I will.
Honda does stuff like this from time to time. They are mostly sensible, even their superbikes and nakeds are generally a lot more user friendly than their rivals. But from time to time they come up with absolutely crazy shit like the Rune.
Looks are so much in the eye of the beholder - it's just so subjective. most of the bikes you've said are beautiful in this and other videos, I dislike. and ones you think are ugly are often my idea of attractive bikes. I'm not a sports bike guy, but I think the original Katana looks cool - and 'retro' looks: R.E., most Triumphs, Kawi W800 650 & 800, old Sportster are to me real beauties and what a motorcycle looks like. - who can account for taste? - p.s. u do great vids - thanks, keep up the good work.
The Rune is such an engineering marvel and work or art. Honda is such an incredible company and deserves to be revered for this achievement. I would love to own one but I don't think I'm worthy of it.
as a non-motorcyclist, i dont find this bike ugly at all
I usually hate Honda bikes but my gold I love the Rune. It's one of the most underated bikes ever and I can only dream of ever owning one since they are so rare and never officially came to Australia.
Honda spends $950 million annually on advertising in the US alone (includes the car division), no idea what it is worldwide. $200m loss on this bike is a part of the marketing budget, since it advertises itself. Looks like a fun project, the collectors certainly jumped at it.
“production bikes never look as cool as the concept”
Defines the Indian FTR perfectly.
I rode one, it was an incredible motorcycle..
I'm on my 3rd Valkyrie and they are definitely one of the best cruiser of all time. The rune was a progression of that.
This is the most awesome honda ever to take the road. They should reintroduce it. Bravo Honda! Plus it's reliable!!!!!!!!.....PS I'm a sportbike rider.
One of the first times I have gotten to see the rune, and now I really wish I owned one. Just something about the look of it.
Bro, you made a video of a bike you don't understand or like, Honda Rune is an awesome looking machine, one of my dream bikes
I have ALWAYS loved the Rune. When I could buy one, I couldn’t afford it. It’s a production concept, which is all but unknown, and I can pretty much count the number of production concepts on one hand. An amazing bike.
I love the way the rune looks. Almost bought one but got road king instead
Love the Rune, couldn't imagine myself on something that wild, ever 😂 just going outside to pat my CB750 on the tank and tell him what a good handsome reliable boy he is
Honda has done this numerous times, not only with motorcycles.
They do it just to stick a finger in the eye of other manufacturers to show them that they can do it.
its amazing to look at. Everyone has diffrent tastes. its something that you struggle to understand and 20.000 for 100.000 bike is a hell of a bargin in my books
I'm not sure it would be an interesting video for *everyone*, since they aren't well known globally, but would you consider at some point making a video about Jawa or some Czech/Czechoslovak bikes in general?
I, as a Czech myself (and having bought an old Czechoslovak moped a few months ago and loving it), would really apreciate it.
And i could provide/translate some information if necessary.
What i know about Rune production numbers: USA market only, one Rune per Honda dealer. So it can’t have been more then a couple thousand at most.
The Rune really does show Honda’s willingness to be unconventional and un-Honda, even if it does bite them in the ass and cost millions. Look at the DN-01 or Vultus for more examples.
Definitely sad they didn’t make the T4, but the rune is still amazing
Man, I love it, not least that you can get such a design and engineering marvel straight from factory. And it's a Honda⭐⭐⭐ If I only had some extra in my pocket...
It's not ugly, definitely not my style, but they are beautiful
You should make a video on the MT01 and how it started the whole MT craze and also how it is cooler then all the other MT models that came after it. Before i find you. Thanks!
Thanks for that. These new machines are slick, but give me an air cooled, twin shock motocrosser from the early '80's anyday. An RM 125B gives me the horn 24/7. 🇦🇺👍
Dude.....
That bike is beautiful
Interestingly, at the same time, Honda was making a *very* sensible motorcycle with the same trailing link front suspension layout - the Helix. (Which, honestly, the Helix feels like an exercise in "what if you made a small displacement cruiser for 1986, with *extremely* 80s styling instead of looking at the past, out of a scooter platform?" Cruiser ergonomics, and very similar performance to the Rebel 250 - aircooled twin instead of watercooled single, manual instead of CVT - that was introduced a year before.)
And, speaking of Honda doing very weird ugly cruiserish stuff... how about the DN-01 (with an incredibly clever transmission concept that Honda abandoned in favor of the DCT, and borrowed from a 1960s scooter design that they did, as well), and the NM4 (based on the NC700 platform, complete with DCT)?
As a bike mechanic, UK, i look at the T2, the big blue one, as see a lot, if not a F*&%$*ing lot of money if you dropped it.. even a slow trun in the cart park would write it off... just a thought
Honda did make the new Rune : The RC213V-S
I love the looks of this bike. It’s sort of like a loony toons Duesenberg.
Honda: can put a V8 on a motorcycle
Also Honda: can’t figure out that people want a rear wheel drive car that doesn’t cost 100k.
I worked in a dealership that had a Rune, a 998 Matrix and 998FE. Talk about three bikes you never see anymore.
I was never a fan of the rune's looks, but i love my 2014 f6c Valkyrie. It is much better looking and they got the performance boost above that generation Goldwing that they deserved.
Seems like a bike that you would spend more time detailing to keep all of the chrome shiny than you would actually riding it. At 900lbs I would be too worried about dropping it in a parking lot and scraping up everything.
Wasn't this motorcycle in Final Fantasy VII on Playstation? The kid with the big sword rode it.
In reality 200 million dollars to Honda is like 5 dollars to the rest of us. My word this thing is weird.
The T1 reminds me of what I always wanted Honda to do, bring back the standard Goldwing but with the 6, like a muscle cruiser today.
The new Triumph Rocket shows what a 2+ liter engined bike could be.
Ugliest goddam motorcycle I've ever seen. Seriously. I've owned half a dozen Honda motorcycles including a '75 GL1000 when it first came out. My bike was the one torn down for photos in the Clymer manual. I'd be embarrassed to ride a Rune in public. But it takes all kinds, and that's probably just me.
4:26 At this point you know it's gotta fail😅
It is a brilliant technical and engineering exercise.
I love the Rune. It's the only cruiser style bike I actually like. I'd take it over a Harley Davidson any day.
So shiny
It's like a larger shinier nm4.
I like Honda's weird bikes even though I don't like their normal ones that much
When HONDA engineers follow FORDS, rule in developing a highend car but this time for a motorcycle.
" COST BE DAMNED "
I am pretty indifferent about this particular bike but I can see what some might like about the styling. Motorcycles of all kinds have various forms of styling, from sport bikes to cruisers and even scooters. The thing is that all of it is definitely motorcycle styling and isn't confused with any other kinds. This bike on the other hand doesn't have any motorcycle styling, it has car styling. To me it looks like the guy that designed it had never seen a motorcycle in his life and previously designed cars, was then handed a bunch of money and told to design a open top coup with only two wheels and this is what he came up with. Of course that isn't what actually happened but that is definitely what the bike looks like to me. I like cars as well as bikes so I wouldn't necessarily say it is ugly, I would just say it is styled like a car. So basically I think people that don't really like bikes, the style that is, but really like cars would be more apt to think this bike looks good.
Rear mud guard!!! I would have to take a Hack saw too the rear mud guard, other than that I'm a fan.
The R18 is the ugly bike here. I thought the Rune looked like an example where the sum of the parts is less than the whole. It however isn't just ugly which the R18 is. Why do you think low mileage R18's are cheap?
Turn of the millennium is a bit easier to say than the turn of the most recent century.
If I had the extra 20k back then yes I would have bought this bike I had a Harley nightrod and loved it .
It looks like the love child of a Gold Wing Valkyrie and a Moto Guzzi V10 Centauro