The best Christmas of my life was getting a PS1 to share with my big brother and this game. I was only 7 years old and mostly watched him play but it's one of the fondest memories of my life, when my family was all together for a brief moment in time. I'm 34 now and still think about this game.
@@BadgersGameRoom for me it was my first video game on the playstation 1 which was also my first system. Plus the story and music are some of my favorites.
Great game! I think most people gave up after leaving Zalagoon because there is no guidance on what exactly you need to do and moving ahead too quickly only ensured getting KO'ed. I went back when I got older and decided to use a guide and finally got past that chunk of the story. One thing I would encourage anyone playing to do is to GRIND, GRIND, GRIND! Be careful moving south from Zalagoon as you can literally get stuck due to the high encounters and increasingly strong enemies. After you have some confidence, get Tont in Simone and then backtrack to the pyramid (after stacking up on consumables) to get the Moon Crescent. Things are somewhat straightforward after that. Again with the grinding, I would reccomend waiting until you can blaze through the random encounters in whatever area you are in before moving on because there are three enemies that I remember running into that just spam group spells at your party. Summoner, Sylph, and Elf.
Music for this gem of a game is composed by no other than the master himself, Sakuraba Motoi, whom according to Wikipedia also composed the music for many Camelot games including Mario Golf, Mario Tennis and the Golden Sun series. Of course, Dark Souls is another stand-out RPG series Sakuraba-sensei worked on, but Beyond the Beyond's music and gameplay hits all the right nostalgia notes.
I mean, Golden Sun almost feels like it's cut from the same cloth as Beyond the Beyond. Battle system is strikingly similar. They probably had many people from the Beyond the Beyond team working on it.
god i just remembered this game today... what a gem, not just the nostalgia talking but there are so many unique qualities about this game. it really makes you think when it comes to planning, and environmental puzzles. while some aspects/mechanics were not thought out well, the developers also didnt have the same kind of industry as today. today developers by and large have a plethora of past games to look at, knowing what mechanics work and why. but at the same time this leads to a lot of rinse and repeat "play it safe" business models. devs of the olden days with fewer preconceived notions came up with some really bizarre concepts. And i think thats what makes many old ass games very special. On a side note the kaleidoscope background for the dialogue cut scene with that music had me crackin up. what were they thinking!? its great in its own way and really fun to experience these bizarre concepts throughout the games playthrough. i remember old PS1 games that were just nuts. playing as the gecko from that insurance commercial but ur a secret agent 007 spy or some shit with bad one liners, a 2D side scroller where u play as a GMO spider in some laboratory and terrorists broke into the lab and now you gotta escape, but theres other GMO bugs you gotta fight/get past, special little armor and weapons fabricated for a spider LOL!, some dorky self aware robot in a 3rd person action/adventure shooter where u have to eliminate the evil robots only to find out they are possessed by ghosts cuz a robot figured out how to design itself to eat an apple and sustain itself like a living thing i guess? YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP LOL and last but not least this little gem, where a 14 year old fights to save the world, while trying to understand his relationship with his family, his country, his own moral identity, and whether his sister girlfriend is evil or not. bravo to this video for helping to preserve the history of this gem.
This is one of my all time fav rpg games, def in the top 10. There are so many hours to garner from this game it is amazing. When it first came out, it was actually a game both of my parents would play, and I would watch them both, as well as be their navigator, especially for my dad. "No, that's the way you came in, you haven't gone that way yet though." As it was such a long game, I never got to see either of them beat the game, as they were a bit too busy to really log the full hours the game requires. I also remember seeing the frustration from my dad as he'd thrown his controller more than once, likely from the high battle rate, and party wipes. As an adult now, I am picking my way through the game when I have time for it, and I have gotten further than either of them as well, though I still have not beaten as of yet. Definitely a game for veteran players, even my parents were veterans at the time. I remember the first rpg games I watched them play were in the Dragon Warrior series. I didn't even know it was Dragon Quest series until about a decade later, (I still prefer the Warrior in the title) which is my favorite all time rpg series. DW3 changed so much for me, and I replayed it so many times, even trying my own challenge runs, seeing how far I could go solo party. Paralyzing monsters really sucked for that. Great video, love to see that some of the old classics (god I feel old) are still appreciated. I actually like the use of VP, LP, and even the MP, as the first was a refreshing change, the second felt like people getting knocked out, and the latter being a very tactical resource.
I wish I would have had parents who were into jrpgs. You are very lucky to have that memory. I'm also a fan of Dragon Quest/Warrior. After my next review I want to play Dragon Quest 8 on ps2
Beyond lol nice one. I had a great time with it. Very old school traditional with tons of areas. It just keeps you on your toes the whole time with battles
So much nostalgia. This was my first rpg game as kid. I got it with my ps1 for my 11th birthday and didn't touch it for at least a year because I was like what is this? When I did finally try it I got hooked on the open world role-playing aspect. The story had a lot of charm. I remember getting stuck so many times and getting frustrated. I had to look up online text walk-throughs to progress, but eventually I upgraded to a ps2 and never finished it.
this was the first jrpg i every played and beat all the way through. before FF7 and before it's time. It wasn't the best game, but it was a great jump into the jrpg scene for me. glad it happened.
These guys made so Many good games in this era. Shining Holy Ark, Shining Force 3 (all 3 parts), Beyond The Beyond…I find them all To be excellent and fun games.
I vividly recall how absolutely punishing this JRPG was as a kid. Even softlocked myself in the Spirit Cave right at the start. Turns out if you don't get the spring water earlier on a branching path in the dungeon first you can't do anything to save Anne but you also can't leave the room because you need to save her in order to leave so you have to restart.
I guess story-wise she dies no matter what. Even though Steiner says don't leave, you can still go back up and get the spirit water, then return to rescue her. It was definitely a confusing game mechanic though.
Another hidden jewel with another great review. Got it on fair condition from internet and it was totally worth it 🤩 Personally I absolutely love sprite effects on 3d environments so is a MUST HAVE. It is grindy but the battle system and charming visuals makes up for it big time however that puzzle minigame and the curse on Edward are a real pain😅 I believe it was developed by Camelot so I couldn't help but feeling like a golden sun game😌
My brother and I bought this game and we got stuck at some city looking for a grave to the water shrine for months. We super grinded and got really strong
This game was made by Camelot Software, right? You can definitely see the influence of the Shining Force games from the way the game is displayed, to the sound that chitters along to the appearing dialogue. You can also see the start of what would become the Golden Sun series too. Especially in the way the battles take place, and the summons. I haven't played Beyond the Beyond before, as it was never released in Australia (to my knowledge - I never found it anywhere). But, this video is making me want to try it. Nice review. Thanks!
Yup Camelot Software. It definitely feels like their next games like Golden Sun were heavily inspired by Beyond the Beyond. But less hardcore! Thanks for watching!
Oh man this takes me back. This game has such a special place in my heart bc it was a game my older sister bought for me. i was like 10 and it was hard af but i loved it just bc she got it for me ❤
Rented this game as a kid. Never finished it. Recall getting stuck and couldn't figure out how to proceed. I remember there being a crazy town that changed completely at Night. Amazing Game. Will play again soon. Bought it again years ago on ps1.
This was the first JRPG I ever played back when I was only 10 years old and BOY did this game kick my ass a lot. I ended up grinding to about level 65 or so before the class change because of how often I just got stuck on some of the puzzles and had to just go do something else. The only thing that stopped me from just giving the game away was how good the music was.
I remember getting this game because it was the only JRPG available on the console at the time. I never beat it, for some reason. I don't remember why. I assume maybe there was a difficulty spike that I, as a kid, was not patient enough to power through. I even had a game guide. It's a game I intend to revisit some day.
I remember at the beginning Bandore is all powerful and you slowly regain territory and learn what happened and why Bandore became evil. I preferred this style and story to the Final fantasy series which was just too abstract and out there for me to appreciate. Thus game was tough at 12 years old but I replayed it at 24 and got thru it more easily as if I had leveled up in real life. I'm 36 now and time to play it a 3rd time .
This game is of course dated, but I have a lot of fondness for it. I would definitely love if it somehow got a remaster that polished some of its rougher spots and let the good parts shine brighter.
I miss this game this game is sooooooo 90s like superhuman samurai 90s. I wish there was a game in which you can create your rgp with this kind of template. "With Save the world trope" is just like playing a Dnd game without people.
Ah yes.. I like this rpg.. I even find a glitch for infinite money early in the game.. In this villager Where you can buy random pot..and get high priced one.. Then Sell it.. Buy it again.. Sell it..
I just downloaded this game and it's file size is 43Mbs, Is this right??? LOL I expected AT LEAST 300Mbs...so how long is the game play from start to finish?
This is one of my favorite summer games, but dear Lord did it frustrate the shit out of me sometimes. I remember audibly groaning when the jarring battle sound would signal yet another battle. I love to battle and grind in JRPGs, but this one's rate is in a class all it's own. The Finn and Steiner Dual Attack sound effect has been stuck in my head all this time! Revisiting it as an adult with considerably more patience allows me to appreciate it even more, especially the music. My favorite moment of the game is that by the time you uncurse Samson, you've already got better characters available to you and he ends up sidelined anyway.
I still used Samson throughout the game beginning to end even after he's cured. He's on par with everyone else after he's cured whereas the pirate and the gypsy girl start at level 1 late in the game
If you actually want to finish this game you WILL need a guide. Unfortunately, they hid key locations (that are needed to progress in the story) completely from the view of the player. This is the worst part of the game for me as I typically like to find stuff myself but just couldn't with this one.
I agreed, i finish the game recenty and yeah is hard, i used a guide to finish the game because the direction and the ramdom fight is horrible.... But the game is ok, i mean you can say the game have issues but in the end you can enjoy in the middle of the game and have fun ps: I hate samsons is a horrible character and change for Lorele
@@BadgersGameRoom yeap, i think this is the only classic RPG i didn't actually finish playing. I might replay it again but with no random encounter code. I'm too old for that.
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The best Christmas of my life was getting a PS1 to share with my big brother and this game. I was only 7 years old and mostly watched him play but it's one of the fondest memories of my life, when my family was all together for a brief moment in time. I'm 34 now and still think about this game.
Was it wrapped in plastic?
This game is so precious to me.
thats pretty cool! What was it that makes it so?
@@BadgersGameRoom for me it was my first video game on the playstation 1 which was also my first system. Plus the story and music are some of my favorites.
Great game! I think most people gave up after leaving Zalagoon because there is no guidance on what exactly you need to do and moving ahead too quickly only ensured getting KO'ed. I went back when I got older and decided to use a guide and finally got past that chunk of the story. One thing I would encourage anyone playing to do is to GRIND, GRIND, GRIND! Be careful moving south from Zalagoon as you can literally get stuck due to the high encounters and increasingly strong enemies. After you have some confidence, get Tont in Simone and then backtrack to the pyramid (after stacking up on consumables) to get the Moon Crescent. Things are somewhat straightforward after that. Again with the grinding, I would reccomend waiting until you can blaze through the random encounters in whatever area you are in before moving on because there are three enemies that I remember running into that just spam group spells at your party. Summoner, Sylph, and Elf.
Music for this gem of a game is composed by no other than the master himself, Sakuraba Motoi, whom according to Wikipedia also composed the music for many Camelot games including Mario Golf, Mario Tennis and the Golden Sun series. Of course, Dark Souls is another stand-out RPG series Sakuraba-sensei worked on, but Beyond the Beyond's music and gameplay hits all the right nostalgia notes.
I mean, Golden Sun almost feels like it's cut from the same cloth as Beyond the Beyond. Battle system is strikingly similar. They probably had many people from the Beyond the Beyond team working on it.
god i just remembered this game today... what a gem, not just the nostalgia talking but there are so many unique qualities about this game. it really makes you think when it comes to planning, and environmental puzzles. while some aspects/mechanics were not thought out well, the developers also didnt have the same kind of industry as today. today developers by and large have a plethora of past games to look at, knowing what mechanics work and why. but at the same time this leads to a lot of rinse and repeat "play it safe" business models. devs of the olden days with fewer preconceived notions came up with some really bizarre concepts. And i think thats what makes many old ass games very special. On a side note the kaleidoscope background for the dialogue cut scene with that music had me crackin up. what were they thinking!? its great in its own way and really fun to experience these bizarre concepts throughout the games playthrough. i remember old PS1 games that were just nuts. playing as the gecko from that insurance commercial but ur a secret agent 007 spy or some shit with bad one liners, a 2D side scroller where u play as a GMO spider in some laboratory and terrorists broke into the lab and now you gotta escape, but theres other GMO bugs you gotta fight/get past, special little armor and weapons fabricated for a spider LOL!, some dorky self aware robot in a 3rd person action/adventure shooter where u have to eliminate the evil robots only to find out they are possessed by ghosts cuz a robot figured out how to design itself to eat an apple and sustain itself like a living thing i guess? YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP LOL
and last but not least this little gem, where a 14 year old fights to save the world, while trying to understand his relationship with his family, his country, his own moral identity, and whether his sister girlfriend is evil or not.
bravo to this video for helping to preserve the history of this gem.
Your right in that ps1 and even PS2 developers did a lot of experimention. So the games felt unique.
This is one of my all time fav rpg games, def in the top 10. There are so many hours to garner from this game it is amazing. When it first came out, it was actually a game both of my parents would play, and I would watch them both, as well as be their navigator, especially for my dad.
"No, that's the way you came in, you haven't gone that way yet though."
As it was such a long game, I never got to see either of them beat the game, as they were a bit too busy to really log the full hours the game requires. I also remember seeing the frustration from my dad as he'd thrown his controller more than once, likely from the high battle rate, and party wipes. As an adult now, I am picking my way through the game when I have time for it, and I have gotten further than either of them as well, though I still have not beaten as of yet.
Definitely a game for veteran players, even my parents were veterans at the time. I remember the first rpg games I watched them play were in the Dragon Warrior series. I didn't even know it was Dragon Quest series until about a decade later, (I still prefer the Warrior in the title) which is my favorite all time rpg series. DW3 changed so much for me, and I replayed it so many times, even trying my own challenge runs, seeing how far I could go solo party. Paralyzing monsters really sucked for that.
Great video, love to see that some of the old classics (god I feel old) are still appreciated. I actually like the use of VP, LP, and even the MP, as the first was a refreshing change, the second felt like people getting knocked out, and the latter being a very tactical resource.
I wish I would have had parents who were into jrpgs. You are very lucky to have that memory.
I'm also a fan of Dragon Quest/Warrior. After my next review I want to play Dragon Quest 8 on ps2
This RPG was beyond any other i played, really challenging but is really fun
Beyond lol nice one. I had a great time with it. Very old school traditional with tons of areas. It just keeps you on your toes the whole time with battles
So much nostalgia. This was my first rpg game as kid. I got it with my ps1 for my 11th birthday and didn't touch it for at least a year because I was like what is this? When I did finally try it I got hooked on the open world role-playing aspect. The story had a lot of charm. I remember getting stuck so many times and getting frustrated. I had to look up online text walk-throughs to progress, but eventually I upgraded to a ps2 and never finished it.
man thats a hardcore birthday gift. I think the cover fooled everyone into thinking it was gonna be a cute little game about a boy and his sword
I fell in love with this game from day one.
Same...music, graphics, and tight controls
@@BadgersGameRoom yeah especially Shutat's theme and Arawn's theme. The castle music was great too. It really puts you in an adventuring mood
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this was the first jrpg i every played and beat all the way through. before FF7 and before it's time. It wasn't the best game, but it was a great jump into the jrpg scene for me. glad it happened.
These guys made so
Many good games in this era. Shining Holy Ark, Shining Force 3 (all 3 parts), Beyond The Beyond…I find them all
To be excellent and fun games.
Great review! I can recall playing this game when I was younger and feeling the same way. Game play was infuriating, but it had its charms.
I vividly recall how absolutely punishing this JRPG was as a kid. Even softlocked myself in the Spirit Cave right at the start. Turns out if you don't get the spring water earlier on a branching path in the dungeon first you can't do anything to save Anne but you also can't leave the room because you need to save her in order to leave so you have to restart.
I guess story-wise she dies no matter what. Even though Steiner says don't leave, you can still go back up and get the spirit water, then return to rescue her. It was definitely a confusing game mechanic though.
My first JRPG on my PS1 back in the day. This game needs a remake or sequel!
this was the first game to make me cry. ...I was 8. 😂
jrpgs have that effect 😅
My mother played the hell out of that game when i was a kid 🥹
Another hidden jewel with another great review.
Got it on fair condition from internet and it was totally worth it 🤩
Personally I absolutely love sprite effects on 3d environments so is a MUST HAVE.
It is grindy but the battle system and charming visuals makes up for it big time however that puzzle minigame and the curse on Edward are a real pain😅
I believe it was developed by Camelot so I couldn't help but feeling like a golden sun game😌
Yup! Exactly and yea Camelot went on to create the Golden Sun series on GBA which is so cool that they continued their jrpgs on there.
My brother and I bought this game and we got stuck at some city looking for a grave to the water shrine for months. We super grinded and got really strong
This game was made by Camelot Software, right? You can definitely see the influence of the Shining Force games from the way the game is displayed, to the sound that chitters along to the appearing dialogue. You can also see the start of what would become the Golden Sun series too. Especially in the way the battles take place, and the summons. I haven't played Beyond the Beyond before, as it was never released in Australia (to my knowledge - I never found it anywhere). But, this video is making me want to try it. Nice review. Thanks!
Yup Camelot Software. It definitely feels like their next games like Golden Sun were heavily inspired by Beyond the Beyond. But less hardcore! Thanks for watching!
Oh man this takes me back. This game has such a special place in my heart bc it was a game my older sister bought for me. i was like 10 and it was hard af but i loved it just bc she got it for me ❤
Rented this game as a kid. Never finished it. Recall getting stuck and couldn't figure out how to proceed. I remember there being a crazy town that changed completely at Night. Amazing Game. Will play again soon. Bought it again years ago on ps1.
The random encounters are crazy!
I remember the puzzles were so amazingly trouble some but fun. Spending hours trying till I ended up searching the internet for help
GameFaq was a life saver
This game taught me how to have true reading comprehension when I was 8-10
I have very fond memories of this game.
Awesome vid! I really enjoyed it!
This was the first JRPG I ever played back when I was only 10 years old and BOY did this game kick my ass a lot. I ended up grinding to about level 65 or so before the class change because of how often I just got stuck on some of the puzzles and had to just go do something else. The only thing that stopped me from just giving the game away was how good the music was.
I played this when I was a kid, brutal but one of the best. Definitely no kiddie gloves here
I remember getting this game because it was the only JRPG available on the console at the time. I never beat it, for some reason. I don't remember why. I assume maybe there was a difficulty spike that I, as a kid, was not patient enough to power through. I even had a game guide. It's a game I intend to revisit some day.
I remember at the beginning Bandore is all powerful and you slowly regain territory and learn what happened and why Bandore became evil. I preferred this style and story to the Final fantasy series which was just too abstract and out there for me to appreciate. Thus game was tough at 12 years old but I replayed it at 24 and got thru it more easily as if I had leveled up in real life. I'm 36 now and time to play it a 3rd time .
One of the few 3+ playable character rpgs ever
My favorite game of all time!
Better than Golden Eye, Halo, Final Fantasy 7, Grandia 2, Bioshock, Half Life 2, Zelda BOTW?
This game is of course dated, but I have a lot of fondness for it. I would definitely love if it somehow got a remaster that polished some of its rougher spots and let the good parts shine brighter.
Great choice for a review. I’m loving your content!
Yea its another little talked about game so I want to spread the word about it :)
Thanks for the review
Ur welcome!
I miss this game this game is sooooooo 90s like superhuman samurai 90s. I wish there was a game in which you can create your rgp with this kind of template. "With Save the world trope" is just like playing a Dnd game without people.
omfg lmao the nostalgia!!!this game was so hard sometimes like jfc
this game kicked my behind
Ah yes.. I like this rpg.. I even find a glitch for infinite money early in the game.. In this villager Where you can buy random pot..and get high priced one.. Then Sell it.. Buy it again.. Sell it..
Always played with my Gameshark
I just googled genie codes. There's infinite everything health and magic 😆. I didn't see any to reduce random battles tho
@@BadgersGameRoom Being able to do so much damage, you get through the random battles faster. Great video btw. ✌️
i loved this game when i was a kid, too bad i got stuck and theres no internet that time.
Dude I got stuck as a kid too. I remember like a water town or something and I never got Sampson unlocked all the way.
I thought the SaGa series was the only one with LP? I learned something new today 👍🏾
One of the few times where the MC is left handed!!
I never realized 😂
Im trying to find a video explaining the whole story
Wonder how many ACTUALLY beat the game?
I remember it being so annoying that Samson was cursed for so long.
I just downloaded this game and it's file size is 43Mbs, Is this right??? LOL I expected AT LEAST 300Mbs...so how long is the game play from start to finish?
There really aren't any cutscenes or intense graphic heavy areas so the file size makes sense. It's about a 35hr game
@@BadgersGameRoom 35hrs?! Holy smokes...
This game is not as bad as you think if you give it a chance. Just think of it as a Golden Sun prequel.
This is one of my favorite summer games, but dear Lord did it frustrate the shit out of me sometimes. I remember audibly groaning when the jarring battle sound would signal yet another battle. I love to battle and grind in JRPGs, but this one's rate is in a class all it's own. The Finn and Steiner Dual Attack sound effect has been stuck in my head all this time! Revisiting it as an adult with considerably more patience allows me to appreciate it even more, especially the music.
My favorite moment of the game is that by the time you uncurse Samson, you've already got better characters available to you and he ends up sidelined anyway.
he was the worst. but really strong when he actually hit stuff during his curse phase
I still used Samson throughout the game beginning to end even after he's cured. He's on par with everyone else after he's cured whereas the pirate and the gypsy girl start at level 1 late in the game
Would look better if you used the correct 4:3 aspect ratio for the game instead of stretching it to 16:9.
Your right. I ran it thru my PS3 and Elgato. I think the Elgato stretched it out. Since then I've been trying to keep the native aspect ratios though
@@BadgersGameRoom Yeah I’ve seen a lot of capture cards screw up game footage.
If you actually want to finish this game you WILL need a guide. Unfortunately, they hid key locations (that are needed to progress in the story) completely from the view of the player. This is the worst part of the game for me as I typically like to find stuff myself but just couldn't with this one.
I agreed, i finish the game recenty and yeah is hard, i used a guide to finish the game because the direction and the ramdom fight is horrible.... But the game is ok, i mean you can say the game have issues but in the end you can enjoy in the middle of the game and have fun
ps: I hate samsons is a horrible character and change for Lorele
yea I found that one wrong turn in a dungeon and the random battle could take a serious toll on you
The random encounter rate in this game is abysmal.
😂 probably the worst ive ever seen
@@BadgersGameRoom yeap, i think this is the only classic RPG i didn't actually finish playing.
I might replay it again but with no random encounter code. I'm too old for that.
2D, 3D, Faux-D