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The Best GRAND SEIKO Spring Drive! Owner's Review Of The SLGA007 (Lake Suwa)
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- For this video I wanted to provide a owners review (after over 1 month) of the Grand Seiko SLGA007. This watch has the most accurate automatic movement (9RA2 Spring Drive) I've every tested!
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0:00 Introduction
1:00 WatchCrunch
2:25 SLGA007 Review
11:50 Overall Conclusions
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Thanks for the comments Watch Fam. Let's keep the conversation going with my post from WatchCrunch: www.watchcrunch.com/EverydayWatchGuy/posts/does-accuracy-matter-to-you-when-buying-a-watch-because-the-new-spring-drive-9ra2-kept-perfect-time-for-a-full-month-2381
Accuracy is an amazing feature. I prefer spring drive over traditional automatic movements. And I love the clean sweep of the second hand with the spring drive.
Wow, I am not just floored by the beauty of this timepiece, but from the accuracy of it! Just stunning.
That shot from 4:07 - 4:20 reflecting the trees is incredible! You should be doing the press photos for GS.
Many thanks for the kind words :)
I do like accuracy as it's a reflection of the exceptional engineering behind the movement. I also like accurate quartz like the 9F series for the GS 👍
Congrats on the watch btw!
Gs are definitely conservative with the accuracy guidelines. I added the sbga415 to my collection nearly 3 months ago and it has only gained 2 seconds, amazing!
The texture on that dial is stunning. And that super smooth sweep of the seconds hand catapults spring drive for the win! Gorgeous piece!
This for me, is the best release I’ve seen since the SBGH267. Thanks for sharing.
The new movement is a bit plainer that the older 9R65 spring drive. Rather have that one. As for Hi-beat movements the 9SA5 is clearly an upgrade in every way over the 9S85 and it’s variations
Great review. Love the watch. I have the White Birch. I never thought of putting it on a strap, but after seeing yours on a strap, I might try it.
That has to be most beautiful watch I’ve seen. Dial, handset and spring drive to boot. Enjoy!
Great review!! I totally agree that adding lume on the hands and markers would have been the perfect finishing touch to an otherwise perfect watch. I hope they incorporate lume into future Grand Seiko dress watches.
it's a thing of beauty. I used to think accuracy was vital but I find I'm just not bothered about it now, as long as it's reasonable. All that said, if you're spending big money on a watch then good accuracy is a must, and Spring Drive is way ahead of the competition.
Great review, and I couldn’t agree more. I have the watch as one of my 13 GS watches, and absolutely adore it.
Congrats on having such a large GS collection 👍
Only 13? I got 21.
@@MrKacperk You lucky man! Enjoy
@@bartpeterleroy8378 You guys are missing out! I have two Casio's. Want to trade GS to a big C? Both are Japanese watches, so I would call it a fair deal 🤝 😎
If I am paying north of $2000 for a watch, it should be accurate. Having said that, here are the things that I love about the Grand Seiko mechanical watches: I love the 'energy dial' feature, clean sweep of the second hand, design and quality finish of the watch, low number (35,000 units) of hand assembled watches (each year), and the fact that it is an Asian manufacturer brand with its version of high end engineering and technology.
I've watched few of your reviews now ...and really enjoy your style.
Yes I do value accuracy though I see Spring Drive as a quartz-regulated movement which means I don't compare it to purely mechanical movements. The more expensive the watch the more I like to see good relative accuracy.
Awesome watch and nice shots.
Great review and an absolutely stunning watch. I wish GS would put some lume on these sporty pieces.
Another beautiful offering from GS.
There’s about 20 different GS’s I would love to own. I have one of them in the spring shun bun, but this is no doubt, another.
what a stunner! you must be sooo happy to have that watch!
Yes sir👌. Thanks for the feedback
Absolutely stellar review and macro in the video. This piece is so versatile and well executed, GS value proposition is much better than swiss counterparts. Agreed on the strap comment, looks amazing on those straps.
Thanks for the feedback bro 👊
I agree....but ....there is no demand for the 007 and the white birch as well. I try to sell this pieces around its retail prices since 12.15.21....this is a great difference to Rolex
@@martinott638 it's not trying to be rolex. It's distinct from rolex and GS holds their own from quality in the design and creative process. The resale alue isn't the only way to quantify a time piece. These are for enthusiasts who want it for themselves not to flip
Amazing watch, and great job on the video. Well done, Toran!
Thanks Chaz🙏
Nice review. Spring Drive is the greatest invention since sliced bread! For me, Accuracy is not the most important thing; "Does anyone really know what time it is?" LOL! I love the Sweep Seconds Hand! I would pay out a Spring Drive but not a ROLEX. That's my two cents. 🙂
GRAND SEIKO, If this is their best, Houston we got issues!
Bought a brand new Lake Suwa Ref 021 with the Spring Drive in Japan after hearing how great GS was.
It's supposed to have a 5 day power reserve. I got the watch for a family member as a gift thinking this would truly be a watch he could enjoy for years to come.
Never wore or sized the watch. Absolutely brand new from authorized Grand Seiko dealer in Japan. I just opened it up and wound the power reserve to near full and hoped to see it last for up to 5 days. Two days later I go back to see the watch that's in the box and it's stopped running! Now this can't be normal right? Since I don't live in Japan I couldn't go back to the selling dealer. So I went to my local GS dealer in my country and he said this is not normal. He said let us bring it to our Grand Seiko watch repair center to see what they say. 4 days later they tell me oh this is something ONLY Japan can repair and because this model is so new we are not equipped to repair this!
I said so I paid about for a new watch and it has to go back to Japan for about a month or more to get repaired? I requested that Grand Seiko simply replace the unit with a new unit and he said they could not do that. I find this practice to be unethical, poor business sense, and a quick way to lose brand loyalty, of which they have not even yet established yet.
SO basically I have to pay in full, never get any use from the purchase, and it has to go to Japan for repairs for God knows how long.
Not sure Grand Seiko Marketing or Director of Sales would find this remedy to be fair.
Anyways, that's my experience with GS so far and no I won't recommend this brand to anyone. If you have any suggestions kindly let me know.
Thank you and happy holidays!
Such a beautiful GS. GREAT JOB ON THE VID 😊👊
I have one myself. There is no watch more beautiful or accurate. Even after 3 months non-stop, the accuracy is insane and absolutely comparable to a watch with radio-controlled time correction. The Minamo is really one of a kind and probably the best GS there is.
Accuracy Is important! Period
Man EDWG, you really do have great taste in watches. Honestly, I go back and forth, between the SLGA007, and the SLGH005. By that I mean that, if I could only own 1 watch, for the entirety of my life, which watch would I choose. They are both, so close to perfection, in my eyes. Even w/ the lack of micro-adjustment, on the clasp. I know that you own both (or did, at one time). Which would you choose??
Thanks for your feedback. I do own both watches. If you could only own one Grand Seiko, I would lean towards this Lake Suwa, due to it having Spring Drive. However, if the movement is not as important as the dial, the white birch is more dynamic in my opinion. Cheers
@@EverydayWatchGuy As you stated, I do find the dial of the "White Birch," to be more dynamic, and a more universal color choice, when paired w/ outfits. Aesthetically speaking, I prefer the level of finishing, and overall visual interest, of the "high-beat" movement, as well. In terms of performance, there is no topping the Spring Drive movement. I also prefer that clean sweep, of the seconds hand. There is also the SLGA009 "White Birch," which as you know, is a Spring Drive. But again, I find the movement decoration, to be a little drab, in comparison to the "high-beat." I also believe that the dimensions are slightly different from the SLHG005. Does that make sense to you???
12:00 - I was surprised to learn that the 40mm Patek Philippe Calatrava 6007A-001 also has a 22mm lug width
On the topic of loom on both my snowflakes and GMT quartz never thought I needed it the hand are so polished that just a bit of light I can read the time . My only wish is that GS makes a 41 are 42 mm GMT quartz the 39 wares just a lil small on my 7.5 in wrist
I feel you, as I also own the SBGN003 GMT (39mm). It wears fine, but I wish they had this in 41mm and with a 20mm lug spacing.
Beautiful watch , thanks
love it!!
you lucky guy. it's US only.
accuracy rocks. from berlin.
Great video, thank you for sharing.
Great review Toran, your new GS watch is striking. Have we lost you to luxury watches only going forward? 😷🇨🇦
Thanks for the feedback Kevin. I'll always have room for more affordable watches. I recently picked up a Orient Mako USA II and ordered a Traska Freediver 👍
I've had this watch a month and also lost 0 seconds timed against a G Shock multiband. I love this watch for all the reasons you said, it's about perfect for me. I like the bracelet and lucked out with a perfect fit. I would not like lume on the dial though, you can read these indices by candlelight. What is that strap at @11:05 ?
Great to hear you have the same accuracy! The strap shown is a BALTIC BLUE SAFFIANO LEATHER STRAP from Strap Mill Canada
....1 second plus after one month on the wrist
How's this for feedback, it looks stunning.
I do value accuracy even in affordable watches... partly because ai twke public transportation all the time here in Germany, and it runs on time to the minute... so that Vostok being +20 or whatever means I'm less likely to wear it more than a day... it can make a big difference in catching trams! I also value it in quartz watches... some of those cheap Casios, if I don't wear em for a month or two... it's not even really a good grab and go because of the above reason!
Furthermore, resetting watches back a minute or whatever is anNOYing. Especially if you are rotating watches daily... it's something ao really appreciate in some of my good watches, that they maintain good accuracy for days or weeks and I don't have to reset them as often.
Accuracy only is important to me when I spend over $2 or 3 thousand. I don't really use my watches to tell the time, they're more art to me but when you get to a certain level it should be highly regulated. Paying a lot for a watch only to find its inaccurate feels lazy and makes me wonder what else they cut corners on. I don't buy luxury to cut corners, the details matter. As for this watch, wow. The only complaint I have is the hour hand but that is _minor_ its a beautiful watch.
How do we know that you are in a watch studio? I see one watch and a table.
Just kidding.
This and the diver are my two favorites. It's amazing what GS brings to the table. Unparalleled second hand sweep, attention to detail on the dial that a loupe cannot find any imperfections. Perfect hands. An unparalleled accuracy. And best of all. I can get 2 of them for the price of a glorified tool watch and most overrated watch in history. The Rolex Submariner. Ooh, the Submariner holds its value. Cars, boats, fine food and beverages, sexy women. I've enjoyed all of these and don't regret the cash they cost me.
There's way more to life than making $5k flipping a mediocre watch.
Thank you so much! When do you thing this watch design will be available in a GMT?
And yes! Accuracy is very important!
Thanks for the feedback. I image that Grand Seiko will be rolling out a 9RA-GMT movement by the end of 2022. Fingers crossed :)
BEST Spring Drive?? TBD
Saw your review of GS and the spring drive which compelled me to buy one this week ... HOWEVER ...
Grand Seiko - Quality Control and Company Response TBD!!
Heard so much about the Grand Seiko line and the Lake Suwa watch.
The Spring Drive truly is in theory a great innovation and the sweeping second hand is impressive to look at.
Quick run down: Bought one in Japan from authorized GS dealer and two days later found that the 5 day claim was inaccurate because it stopped after less than one day. Yes and the rear case back power reserve showed that it was full. Just two days and I never even sized or wore it yet. I immediately took it back to GS dealer that has offered to send it in to GS repair center to see what happened.
This is somewhat concerning because list price is over 9K and you wouldn't expect this to happen to a Grand Seiko!
I told the GS dealer if it requires opening up to repair I want a new replacement because this is brand new/never worn. So how would you feel if you bought a new watch and immediately it needed emergency care?
Let's see how Grand Seiko responds to this "hopefully anomaly" and do the right thing because if Im the manufacturer and its an internal issue I would surely want to do the right thing and replace it right away.
So far a bit disappointed to say the least and your viewers should be aware of this issue as well if they are considering this model.
I have owned a couple of the 5-day SD models from GS and never had that issue. I do hope that the GS service folks will accommodate your watch, because that's not right
@@EverydayWatchGuy yes they said they will let me know by Friday. Just odd how this could have occurred. My past spring drive GMT GS ran perfectly.
Subscribed sir . Great content .
Many thanks Sarmad👍
@@EverydayWatchGuy , U are welcome sir. Plz pay my kind regards to our dear and nice friend , Sanjay . You both are doing a great job through your channels .
Great review. I have the same watch, and I'm also experiencing the same accuracy with mine. I would be interested to know what watch bands you are wearing.
Awesome to hear that you get similar accuracy 👍. I had my SLGA007 on some different 22mm leather straps from Strap Mill Canada.
soon, very soon.
Thx !!
The thumbnail got me. Oooofh. 🤤 🤤
Question for you. Is this an "everyday watch" for an everyday watch guy?
Need this in the 9sa5 movement
Great review on this beautiful piece. I do question their decision on the bracelet width and lack of micro adjustments. It's like they do this intentionally just to annoy us enthusiasts. Does this bracelet come with half-links?
Thanks for your insight. The bracelet does at least come with a couple of half links👍
Would love for them to create this watch with a hi beat movement.
rolex datejust 36 mm lug width is 20 mm, nobody complain about this maybe because it is rolex. While grand seiko 40 mm with 22 mm, looks like the shape of enlarged version of datejust 36 with 20mm lug width.
I got this watch near release date (12/4/2021) and the watch hasn't deviated from atomic clock app on my phone.
Every time I want to pull the trigger on a GS, especially the SDs , its the same story - brilliant cutting edge tech, finishing and execution but pale old dare I say boring design (at least for me personally). This one is definitely the better of the lot, at least they put the PI on the backside. But the 22 mm lug width and chunky bracelet is absolutely crazy, the same with the high contrast date display. GS really needs to move on from their 60s-70s design. Anyhow, thanks for showcasing, its still a lovely piece.
In your photo at 12:54 of the watch looking at the bottom right lug of the watch you can see a gap. The end link is not a perfect fit for the lugs and had a space. I asked staff at the boutique about this and they said it is apparently intentional because it makes the spring bars less likely to break when there is a little wiggle room. Have you heard anything about this before?
I have not heard about that being intentional before. Not sure if that is a legit reason either, but I typically wear this watch on a strap, so I haven't noticed it
Nicely done! If you had to choose between the Lake Suwa and the White Birch, which would you choose?
Thanks for the feedback. I would likely lean towards this lake Suwa if I could only have one Grand Seiko. The white birch is a great piece though 👍
@@EverydayWatchGuy Although, of course, this is a limited edition and they’re all sold, whereas the White Birch version (either the high beat or the recently announced Spring Drive) is not. I’m looking forward to seeing the latter when it arrives in the shops: the photos make the bark texture look flatter and less characterful. It will be interesting to see the two movements side by side.
@@EverydayWatchGuy Where would you rank the Shunbun "Cherry Blossom" among these?
I love your watch. I am looking to get a GS this year. I honestly cannot decide what movement I prefer. Since you have both movements, If you could only own the new high beat or SD movement, what would you choose (let’s say price and watch are identical-only a movement decision). I like them both for different reasons.
If it's going to be your first Grand Seiko, I would suggest going for a spring drive, as it's unique to the brand, you get that smooth sweep, and it's very accurate. Kind regards
Thank you for the prompt reply. I will check you out on watch cruncher
Is this a good first luxury watch?
Does GS use the super clear coating like they do on the Sarx series? If they don’t they should.
Yeah, it appears that there is a super clear coating on the crystal of the Lake Suwa 👍
It's technically a quartz watch, so obviously you can't directly compare the accuracy to true mechanical watches. However, you can compare the engineering and watchmaking to other mechanical watches. It's a different mechanism, but every bit as impressive as some mechanical movements. If not more so. It reminds me a bit of powering a light bulb by pedaling a bicycle, although this is obviously much more complicated
Not technically no, a quartz watch uses the quartz crystal which is powered by a battery to run the watch. This watch uses a mechanical movement the quartz regulator acts as a break so it’s a hybrid of sorts but none the less a marvelous feat. But it’s okay if you don’t like it, just wanted to clear that up.
Don't like the difference of the hour hand over grand seiko's sword hands of the standard GS watches.
Unfortunately there's a couple of new design characteristics introduced with these new models that I'm not a fan. The fat blunt cut hour hand and dial layout. The narrow bezel with vertical brushing and the small lugs paired with a 22mm lug width give this case a weird composition. For these reasons I still prefer the heritage models like the SBGH273 with the added benefit of being 3000$ USD lower in price. That's where the real value resides.
I like the well balanced watch 007 and 005 especially the smaller thickness. The older references are simply to fat.....in my opinion.
@@martinott638 the slimmer case is a welcome change definitely. I agree 👍
How is this watch compared to the white birch?
Both watches are amazing. The white birch has a heavier texture to the dial and the hibeat movement is less accurate
@@EverydayWatchGuy thanks. I'm a bit of a purist and prefer a Hibeat as it's purely mechanical
There’s a ‘white birch’ version of this movement recently announced. Another distinguishing feature is the 120 (SD) vs 80hr (HB) power reserve.
@@edwardhutt1214 I saw that.
I waved back but you couldn’t see me.
Looks like it's selling over retail.
If you don’t value accuracy you might as well wear man jewelry on your wrist.
I was waiting for something like this!! You really need P r o m o S M!
Lack of lum. Instead of gold place inside watch ,cut corner to just add onto claps logo & save more time polishing in case by use more brush finish.Call this a special edition by adding more accuracy ,which already a very accurate watch that u cannot even tell! But not from the price.
lume? bad taste. would RUIN a masterpiece!!
No to lume… totally disagree
That synth deep bass sound is killing it!