The BEST feature coming in War Thunder's 'Alpha Strike' Update...
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2024
- How could this one little feature be a HUGE change to War Thunder? The F-20A Tigershark is cool and all but I'm all the Alpha Jets. But CAS planes are about to buffed in a big way, just not the way you might expect.
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the f5e has like all the abilitys of cas that the tigershark does
That's because they are literally the same other than engines and missiles. Well and the fact that one is 75 fkn dollars.
The tiger shark has a bomb ballistic computer
Last I checked the F-5E doesn't unless that got changed
@@nigelwigglwattle it still has the same abilities, it’s just a bit harder to hit the CAS weapons
@@nigelwigglwattle the only differences is ccip for rockets and bombs that is correct
@@nigelwigglwattle F-5E got one recently
The fuel slider appears to go from minimum load (30%) to full load (100%) which is probably why 50% is off center
But what about people who want to set their fuel load to 0%?
Yeah, what about us who wants to stay on the ground cuz height is scary! @@tomfahey2823
@@tomfahey2823 is recommend walking for them because I don't think you'll get far without fuel 🤷
shouldnt be able to do that@@tomfahey2823
@@tomfahey2823 fast bomb run
You can bind WEAPON OPTICS, TARGETING OPTICS, EXTERNAL VIEW all to the same button and they will operate like SNIPER VIEW (SHIFT) in ground. Pressing once will either go into the weapon's camera, or default to a targeting pod (if you have one) and pressing it a second time goes back to external view.
I actually just did that yesterday 😂 felt like I discovered fire 😂
It's one of those things you pick up when you bind everything and have to min max your buttons because you got none left lol@@princeachim6365
Yea i use this truck too! Same with most of my weapon locking keybinds, all set to one button. Many people have a closed mind, thinking you can only put one specific keybind to one function. But you can put multiple functions on one keybind and/or multiple keybinds to one function.
@@VEX_INC Can get kinda hairy though if you got multiple targeting weapons lol. I have my Missile to ground and air lock and fire to the same keys. It only haves with certain loadouts. But i was dropping a GBU, then went to dog fight and i fired a missile and dropped my other GBU lol. So thats where i then started using weapon selector.
@@princeachim6365 tell me more
You were able to 3rd person lock Maverick for a long time…
Yeah ive been doing it forever and its just weird that people never realised
It was just more difficult
yeah lol its what ive done forever, yeah it wasnt easy but i just activated a sidewinder to show where the lock square was and made it an improvised targeting sight lol
It wasnt camera guided, you couldnt look around with it. This makes it much easier.
yea but not really and not like that. you had to point your plane in the direction of the lock and guess where the lock indicator is. With this would can fly perpedicular to the target and lock it and fire and don't have to guess where the lock will be. It's MUCH better.
i use the F-16C for CAS, war thunder has made CAS so easy its not even funny. But with this new Maverick system it just makes it easier. Also, Mavericks are meant for 3-7 miles, not 1-3.
Thats the reason why every cas buff gives me depression. Its not like cas at top tier is already oppressive
wow CAS being even easier, this is exactly what Ground RB really really needed
@@TheCol111 anti cas is even easier so i guess its balanced?
@@TheCol111 ikr
@@epicduckyy well, not really. its SUPER easy to dodge missile after missile (and not even needing to use countermeasures) and then just see where the spaa is then drop a gbu on it.
The F-20 was meant to be the “Modern” equivalent of the F-5. A cheap option for American allies who couldn’t afford the Teen Series fighters and their advanced ground crew training and the high per flight hour costs. It was considered a great plane and probably would have been really successful. But GD had zero interest in losing out those sales and came up with a dirt cheap package for the F-16A and all the back up bits. That was the end of the F-20 program.
So it is easier to kill ground targets. Do those on the ground have any easier way to take on aircraft, or is the CAS dominance getting worse?
its getting worse
I’d bet its a fair wager that the devs only play Air
what cas dominance? the S1 just denies any sort of air spawn
@@ashrodrigues3571lower brs, mainly literally anything before radar SPAA's are a absolute joke to try to play SPAA's and try to kill CAS, worst it got for me was 6.7 ground and just kind of kept getting worser but it was tolerable because of better SPAA's, but still with the pantsir s1, CAS is still a issue. far too easy for the reward.
@@dsg4500 skill issue the lower AA's are very easy to use once you get the hang of it
Post-Patch watcher here: Haven't tried the new AGM system, but it looks like they might be a little better if you loosely lock with the free-cam thing, then switch to the TGP to make finer adjustments so that it hits precisely on target.
The new third person targeting also works for all TV weapons like the GBU 8. The A10a premium gets the TV guided GBU. Paveways are the laser guided bombs and both A10’s in game can’t carry them or a lighting targeting pod to use them
hopefully the graphics can be better than ps3 :/
50% fuel not being half way along the slider actually makes sense since the bottom of the bar (or rather the left of the bar) is not 0%. This way, the bar gives you a clear picture of how much of your discretionary fuel you're taking. If you put 50% in the middle, that would be a little confusing, as either you're slider would have to have a different sensitivity on one side of 50% to the other, since you've got 30%-50% on the left, and 50%-100% on the right, so different ranges, or you'd have a section of slider that you simply couldn't actually use on the left.
Speaking of the Fox i want the German Luchs (i know ones is a cainine and the other a feline), the reason the snail gave us that it is useless because of its cannon does not work anymore when the Japanese have a vehicle with the same Autocannon, i need more autocannon vehicles!
The Luchs an Leopard (Vk 16.02) would be so much fun in low tier battles lol
Panzer 2 dak is in game btw basically a luchs
The f20 was designed to fill the f16s’ role but as you may know the f16 won
Not sure what you are talking about, that feature has been here since the release of Mavericks.
The only difference is that the square is now larger.
I think it's because the seeker was caged in third view before, and now it's both uncaged and controllable
The the F20 in the dev server can cay 4 mavericks and the F5e can also carry 4 of the same maverick at 10.7
Not the same mavericks. F5e gets as, f20 gets bs
@@chrismueller956 Stop spreading misinformation
F5e carries the 65bs
@chrismueller956 5C has the bullpups. 5E has mavs, and that same GAU-13/A 30mm gun pod
TV missiles, like the mavericks, are the most expensive to spawn anyway. But not used much (unless assited by targeting pods). So now, they will get more usage.
The 3rd person aquiring was already in game just the box would apear wheb you had a lock not before, the controls for it are "activate target point" and deactivate
The canopy closing earned you a like :D
Small question, when you mention at 08:55 "that is the wrong one" (lock I assume?) what was your mistake? So what did you activate by accident in exact terms and what should you have activated?
Asking since I still have a lot of trouble correctly locking air 2 ground stuff and I feel like thats a mistake I probably already did or would likely do.
I meant to say that it locked the wrong _spot_ lol. I get my words mixed up sometimes heh
What is the control called for the camera thingy majhici?
i love how the smoke comes from the Guide Bombs/ Laser Bombs, Slowly.
like imagine you´re playing as a tank, and u see upcoming smoke trail to you. its very scary!!
4:58 that feature will change the way how the console player (like me) because always that i will try to aim the plane also moves so that will help
The third person lock ability with AGM’s has always been there, you just had to toggle zoom to see it clearly. The new method looks easier but I hope we can turn it off.
Sort of. The seeker lock box was there but not the TV window bracket. That's the new thing that also means you can control where the TV sight in 3rd person before switching to it.
Target point for tv guided munitions was always in the game from my understanding. Only difference now is the white box.
Correction: war thunder said they would not add and they made a point of it. Also the only detriment the F-20 is going to provide is to American teams. Although maybe that will balance out the F-15 being at the same BR.
*it’s supposed to say “would not add top BR premiums” but apparently UA-cam comments don’t like italicization
You missed the memo recently then
I think alpha jet already went to 8.7 quite recently, and the fact it has ccrp makes it propably pretty good with all those rockets. i dont think many others have that at 8.7
ATGM 65-K and sniper pods for A-10C matter of time then. Still missing cluster munitions. But West needs Multi-Mission-Launcher system for (Patriots) and AIM9X SAM's with 20 miles range and 15 in the launcher for ground based AA systems in the top BR's.
We don't need 20 mile launch range. I want the game to fell real. But if we can cancelling anything spawning in, then just remove jets from Top tier....
@@user-zu9bx2pg3b That's what Strela and Pantsir do now so it's fine.
Can't pick and choose favorites.
If I'm not mistaken, the F-20 has both the radar and the engine of the F/A-18A/B (APG-67 and F-404)
with 3 helis now having fire and forget agm's, the apache longbow should get it's hellfires. they would behave the exact same as spikes and pars, except the hellfires can reacquire the target. also, the F-20 being 12.0 is going to be amazing for top tier players, easy grinding. i almost have the flanker, went from early rank 4 to the flanker entirely during this jaguar event, so that stock grind will be so easy.
The Blackhawk gets it's gunpods finally, I haven't seen anyone cover that yet
The F-20 is DOA for air RB and a total scam by gaijin. It might get the broke af dm that the F-5C first had, but it's gonna see constant uptiers with Gripens, Su-27s, F-16s etc. that will absolutely annihilate it. Only idiots dumb enough to turnfight it (not that many at top tier) will find themselves on the losing end. Inferior missiles and gun too. The F-5C is still the superior US grinder for getting to top tier
well you know, people will still buy it. After all, its a top tier premium for usa. Even if people turn fight it, its low speed performance still isnt even as even the f16c, meaning that an average smt pilot can still kill it in a turn fight
@@DeBumBum bro wtf are you even talking about? Where are you getting that from?
@PanzerPaw what the devs said back then was not that they would never add “top tier premiums”, it was that and I’m quoting pretty much what they stated; that they will “never add maximum BR premium vehicles”
This is from that specific devblog/news post regarding implementation of premiums.
This is not a maximum BR vehicle since it is not 12.7 so this does still fit their ruling.
It to be they wouldn't add top rank prems for the longest time, Then they switched to the top BR rule they have now.
@@Maktumekal_Ilzrei it’s not like they’re breaking their logic here, top tier Rank and BR premiums have never been added in their respective rulings. Around the time of never adding top Rank premiums they added vehicles that were a rank below top rank.
Now that it’s been switched to top BR since some time 2023 I still have yet to see such a discrepancy.
@@KozenX Oh I'm not saying they have broken their logic, merely pointing out that they've changed the rule along the way from what many used to be familiar with.
@@Maktumekal_Ilzrei I wouldn’t be surprised if they keep on changing their rulings, quite frankly i remember there being an argument that Gaijin was never planning on adding such premiums after the XM-1 when they realized it’s effect on the player base WRs, but it seems they don’t have a good idea of how they remedy this problem and rather very the benefit as more important.
Why does the s2b require a data link pod to carry those missiles.....will you be able to manually guide the missiles in? If not then ehats the data link pod for?
I'm assuming that's just how those missiles connect to the plane for the TV signal but I don't really know for sure.
@@PanzerPaw hmmm. No because its directly connected on the rail. the idea was to fire the missile from beyond visual range and the rio in the back seat could link with the missile while it was in flight and using the tv camera in the missile make adjustments. So as the target came into view....then it was locked onto. I get in game it would be a bit bs to fire a missile at 30k from complete safety. Then jump between keeping the plane in map and back to missile guidence to seek out and target someone as the missile flies. But since we cant do that the data link pod is completely useless. Im ok with not making adjustments once the missile leave plane. But that data link pod takes up a slot for.....well another missile.
I think my 2 mai load outs will be. 2 missiles + aim9L.
And a 2 laser guided bomb. Pod and aim9L.
Dont think ill bother with the bomb bay. Dumb drop bombs at top tier are pretty hard to use with how good spaa is.
7:33 F-16 is infact older than the F-20. You may notice this as 16 is less than 20.
The entire point of the F-20 was to get the European sales the F-16 ended up getting.
I thought it was just some silly naming convention
@@Joe_SpierThe naming convention used be incremented sequentially, and thus made sense. Then they started to invent ways to trick congress for money. That is why F/A-18 Hornet and F/A-18 Super Hornet are two entirely different aircraft. Also why F-16G ended up being F-16C Block 40 and F-16J ended up being F-16C Block 50.
what gameode were you playing in?
You can lock on like this in game now with the laser in 3rd person. Its not very easy because the laser points a few feet below the gun sight. So you can lock and shoot 3rd person with mavericks still. You just have to get used to aiming above the target. When u lase you will see the dot, then lase again to compensate when you get the laser on target you get a lock. I think the big catch is yyoy need to maintain the lase to get yhe hit, i dont think you can lock multiple targets effectively. It will work in a quick pinch when your used to it. Im not claiming to be any expert by any means either. Just wanted to share my experience. Im still learning plenty
Laser bombs are my go to weapon when I don't have enough spawn points in the match (cheaper than TV). And I use it for high altitude precision bombing and not low level dive bombing.
I really dont care what you upload, because its always a good day when you do
ATG is better from far out. Then look to where the enemy is, hit the designator key. It will tell the camera to look there. Then go into the cam mode and its looking in the general area. That way you arent scrolling with your mouse looking for enemies. Im sure the way you did it is nice. But doesnt seem like youre getting a good lock.
You say that there's a tutorial for the new air-yo-ground missiles, is that just for mouse and keyboard or is the tutorial for console controller too?
Tankette at the end can barely travel US highways speed limits
Does anyone know if the AGM targeting change affects sim in any way?
Still wish the Sovs get thermals on their TV lock on the 29SMT since its absolutely terrible currently.... especially when it costs over 700 sp to spawn in but the americans Mavericks on the A10 are around 300 sp
IIRC the F-20 was designed to be a cheaper alternative to the F-16, but it wasn't that popular on the export market.
not really ment to be a cheaper option
at the time there was an export ban on the f16 so they wanted to design a new jet that could compete with the f16 that can be exported
however before any could be sold the export ban on the f16 was lifted and anyone that was considering the tigershark just went for the f16
I’m happy an aircraft which I helped many others push to be added to the game be a success
Ill be honest, none of those capabilities are new. Going in the sight for the agm65bs is better because you get thermals and can see the sams from further away. Its easy to kill sams at 8+kms even with the a models
It's the ability to aim the TV sight in 3rd person that's new. And for me at least, it makes a big enough difference to be happy about it
@@PanzerPaw I was already able to do that. It looks a little different,but you could lock off bore while in 3rd person before
3:20 Imagine flying freedom aircraft without freedom units...
ALPHA JET!! F*** YEAHH
can you confirm this is still working....its ass for me right now on live. cant lock shit, spamming the buttons and it paints targes all around and not the damn tank i want it to lock onto
The radar looks pretty good i think its better to use those aim 7f in a headon
Well, the only thing that make me doesn’t play cas is that I NEVER understand how to play cas,BUT, if they add a tutorial well, let’s go
Panzerpaw, have you seen the girls und panzer finale part 4 yet? That movie was amazing and chaotic.
Love the vids
they should make cas planes make starting on airfield in ground rb
I still not unlock any of the new tanks or planes from danger zone yet good the grind is killing my love for this game
The min load is always 30% so 50% will be near the beginning
Mavericks work ok on planes to, i love it when people relize wht they were taken out by. It can be pretty funny.
Does anyone know when this update is coming?
how do you do the massive puff of white smoke at 11:59
go mach 1
@@ptnnnnn197 ok
As a british main, i cant imagine myself using mavericks without a targeting pod X_X
You could already fire the AGM65B from third person view though.
I’m not sure what your point is, you’ve always been able to lick mavericks in third person, they just made the box bigger
The change is that you can now actually control where the camera for the mav is pointing without having to switch to the actual TV
I just realized the insane number of ge he has
ground RB stopped being easy for planes at 8.3. there is a reason why when you play below 8.3 you easily see twice the CAS in a match. because 8.3 planes have absolutely no defense against AA.
You clearly don't play this game
do you? play 6.3 or something then play 8.3 or higher sit and count the planes. tell me im wrong. but you wont because im not.@@user-em5hs8mw1g
it will make the GRB = ARB with tanks more
Already like that
Cope, its not even a new thing, it existed since whenever lmao
the gbu-8 is not laser guided but tv guieded
A long time ago MTV said it would never play Rap music. When it comes to bringing in money few have the virtue to keep their word. Easier aiming of Mavs will be nice though.
Spookston gonna have an aneurysm
Ground players.*
This feature already existed, there is no buff, its just a change
CAS isn't easy and there is no CAS dominance in the game
You literally can't GBU anything from 40km. You can try your best with GBU-8 and GBU-15 (And Walleye if you are brave) but literally past certain distances the laser guidance doesn't work and GBUs don't glide
TV guidance also doesn't track moving targets over certain distances either.
Maverick missiles are EASY to destroy if SPAA player is not braindead.
Your best bet is to try to do surprise attacks, all those videos where you watch people get 5/5 kills with Mavericks by flying over the battlefield doesn't represent the average gameplay, those happen very rarely and because of bad VERY BAD SPAA.
Pantsir/FlaRak denies air-spawns instantly up to ranges of 20km - jets that can outrange pantsir are uncommon and since they now put clouds all over the most maps its almost impossible to try to do 20km PGM or Maverick shots, and not to mention Pantsir can just shoot those missiles down
There is nothing easy about CAS at this very moment.
Please stop, this is not healthy behavior. Please stop whining like a baby until things go your way. I don't know what do you guys keep crying about CAS, i know that your degenerate youtuber cry about it daily but goddamn, its not the reality you think.
I'll pay you 50$ for every succesful CAS you can do with the F20.
I miss the old walleye aimer, but they didn’t add datalink so it doesn’t matter
And they even said this game will never have Datalink aka man in the loop as Martel TV the Bucc S.2B gets this patch had it in real life.
"What a day...let's escape reality and play some game. *War Thunder is launched* Let's go for GROUND battles" *gets killed 3 times by plane in the same battle*
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG STOP THAT! Let us enjoy game, I don't care it's "realistic", game is NOT realistic...CAS is cancer even more now :V
Cas doesn’t stand any chance in naval
A german premium top tier helicopter would be incredible to he honest
The f 5e has a radar
Damn . You learn something new every day , the beauty of life
might wanna learn a bit more about how the sparrows work before trashing them lol
Love em
odd heli it looks like 2 dolphins combined to make this 1:13
Amazing, now ground vehicles will suffer even more from plane trash
great so CAS is even easier now, awesome news
The f16 was never designed to be a multirole aircraft
what i like for this update? i guess the fuel slider.
everything else? nah, no thanks.
the Gbu 8 is NOT laser guided
Good vid
F-5E has radar but it is useful only for dogfighting
F20 will be the fastest bombing plane
I wonder why the Israeli AH-64 doesn't get spikes
the f20 is actually newer than the f16
F5e has a radar and same agm65s
Can’t wait ❤❤ but want more prototype USA vehicles and more ww2 vehicles
With this, I will play the shit out of the A10 Early
Dude never played F-5E lol
So no anti-radiation missiles😞
i hate CAS so for me it got worse, tho its gonna take me a few years to get to that br...
great so I can get killed with no way to defend myself and face a threat that half the US players pre-ordered? "Best feature" my ass, keep guided munitions in air rb and sb
The fact the US blackhawk is the same br as the Israeli one is goofy. The US one should go down and the Israeli one should go up
I have f16C and this is a joke to be 12.0 should be 11
It'll probably end up going to 11.7 (which because of how much of a black hole 12.7 is wouldn't even matter) or getting 9Ms like it no doubt had in real life, not to mention the thing was literally tested with AMRAAMs as well (which is actually where the double pod for the 9Ls comes from, they actually held the 120s). Though tbf it is basically an f-16A, which also has the 9Ls instead of Ms. It even has the aim-7fs too (could probably carry 7Ms too, but again, balancing). Who knows, maybe it'll end up getting a tech tree version with all these upgrades.
Top tier is just insane right now. Anything that isn't one of the new releases just gets completely eaten alive. There desperately needs to be decompression.
Next patch gaijin dropping F4F ICE as a premium for 85$..............
Whats expensive about it? Its a tax deductable.
Should’ve been a tech tree vehicle :|
17mil GOLDEJN EABGLES WTFF
Making CAS easier is definitely the worst feature of this update
no there making cas even more op
It literally always existed, nothing new
Where are my F-20 preorder whales🙌🏻
People who que for 'Ground Battle' with no intent beyond rushing into a plane to bomb/strike all game and be the source of people's hatred for this game, are the people who think this is 'THE BEST FEATURE COMING IN THE NEXT UPDATE"