I believe it's $32.50 per active or engaged hr... NOT straight per hour. Meaning if utilization is 50%, it's $16.25 per hour before expenses. So not great.
Agree. Also for long rides not worth it. In in CA/ not MA but sometimes i get $60/70 hr rides for long trips. Just make it simple $ x mile plus $ x minute = total comp
A 3 hr trip on the highway would pay you 97.50+tip, deduct the gas of round trip mileage and the tear and wear on your car. Food, hotel logging if you can get back home. How much do you take home at the end of that trip? 😂😂😂😂 We should fight for a 90/10 split , uber and lyft can pay all their fees with with just 20% of thier 10 %. We should fight for that. F??k hourly and vacation bullshit i want freedom.
For better or worse, this $32.50 is only while driving to a passenger or with a passenger in the vehicle. Therefore, if driver demand is low, they're not beholden to the minimum pay as drivers won't be earning that minimum (since there are no rides).
Those drivers are screwed 😂 good luck with getting online anytime you want. Imagine getting into the gig business just to become an employee again 😭 the average driver will have to drive a 50 mile 1hr trip just to make $32 and then drive 50 miles back EL OH EL
You don't want the same if it only engaged hours. Think about it, a long 100 mile trip would only pay you for the 100 miles. It probably pay you the 100 miles back.
A similar thing happened here in New York State. There was a settlement between the Attorney General and the rideshare companies. Drivers are supposed to earn $26.78 per "active" hour, and there was supposed to be a settlement payment. This was instituted on February 29th, 2024. So far I have not seen a check, but what I have seen is a significant slowdown on lyft. I suspect this is because the hourly rate clock starts when you accept the ride, and ends when you drop off. Sitting idle pays nothing, even if online. These companies always find workarounds.
In California, I believe it should be $40 an hour. The cost of living here and the cost of living in Massachusetts. I’m sure it is completely different.
According to one of the comments, Drivers may need to get ready for another lawsuit… It looks like Uber in NY force logs drivers off the platform during downtime to avoid minimum pay… They always have a scheme…
Yeah, quite a contrast between how MA and MN played out. Maybe the MN weather makes people cold inside. Like they are entirely devoid of empathy. I honestly can't understand otherwise how MA's leaders understood the importance of paying drivers a livable wage, and but the ones in MN can not.
If your not an independent contractor you get no tax write off .67c/mile (in your defense uber should not be allowed to punish drivers for low acceptance rate - which would increase fares, uber should also reward drivers for high acceptance rates) www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-the-411-on-who-can-deduct-car-expenses-on-their-tax-returns
1:02 so far following this logic, is better take short trips in heavy traffic, than take long trip through the highway, because in this case 45 miles in 40 min it will be like $21.67. For me it will worth if they guarantee $32.50/h on trip plus $1.00+/mile.
Yes we are super happy here in Massachusetts i hope that every state does the same or better for the Drivers all of us we deserve a better wage stay strong 💪🏻
👏 👏 👏… once that start…let me/us know how that works… because if they are going to start giving u only long trips where they still going to be charging to riders 80 bucks and you are getting $35 out of that ride and you end that trip in 50 min; maybe you will have a little bit more than $32.50 dollars an hour. Now if you give 3 to 4 , $3 real short trips in 1 hour; they going to have reimbursed you more money to complete your $32.50 dollars an hour, and that sounds much better cuz you don’t use your vehicle that much and don’t spent so much gas. … omg it sound complicated lol … ✌🏼 from Cali
Are you guys employees, if so do you still get your $.67/mile TAX deduction? www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-the-411-on-who-can-deduct-car-expenses-on-their-tax-returns
Per active hour while activity driving passengers. So it's not that good unless you're getting paid waiting for rides, too. But i doubt that. It should only be per mile and / or😂 per minute
But we have to fight for it. Even if it means shutting off our apps in protest. What we REALLY need is to form a specialized union specifically for the gig workers. A strong union is the best way we can fight for what we deserve.
I’m here in Massachusetts and many of us are still left wondering what it all means for us. Are we going back to a rate card? Because that pay is just a minimum for active hours. We have been getting upfront info since August 11th, 2022. And that was a major pay cut. I like the health insurance part though.
Unfortunately I live in Fort Wayne Indiana and the market here is basically take what they give you . That is why next month I will drive for FedEx. Such a shame because if they were more fair to the drivers it would’ve been the perfect job for me and my family.
Oh, great, now southern New Hampshire drivers will be offered tons of drop offs in Massachusetts, where we’re only allowed to drop off and are forced to deadhead back to New Hampshire. It doesn’t sound like we’re any part of this except getting the sh*t end of the stick.
The part that made me really happy about this is the whole deactivation review part because I know a lot of good people who got deactivated because of a Karen lying in their complaints
💩I smell something 💩!!! I need further clarification on the hours they are paying the drivers. If this law were in California, what would Uber & Lyft pay to a driver for a ride from Sacramento California to San Francisco (let's say a 100 mile trip) ??? Would they pay for the driver to come back to Sacramento California (another 100 mile trip) ??? Hypothetically speaking, lets say it took two hours do complete the trip. Let's say the driver was able to average 50 miles per hour on the freeway. That would mean they would pay the driver $65.00 to do this ($32.50 X 2 = $65.00). Would Uber and Lyft be required to pay the driver to drive back to Sacramento California (I don't think so)??? If I was a driver, I wouldn't take this ride. Taking into account todays gas prices, I would pay roughly $40 dollars in gas to go there and back. This would net me $25.00 for 4 hours of work driving there and back. This would = $25.00 / 4 = $6.25 per hour. This doesn't even take into account depreciation etc. For 2024 the IRS standard mileage rate for business is 67 cents per mile. This is the math for the IRS standard mileage deduction in 2024. The mileage deduction is 67 cents per mile for all business miles driven, this includes dead miles driving back. So the mileage deduction from Sacramento to San Francisco, there and back would be as follows. 100 miles there, 100 miles back would be 200 miles. 67 cents IRS standard mileage deduction times 200 would be a $135 IRS standard mileage deduction. I can guarantee Uber and Lyft ARE NOT paying cents per mile and cents per minute for dead miles back and between rides. There is the further question of, would Uber and Lyft pay for injury's in an auto accident when the driver is between rides and if so does the coverage change? This is a NO MONEY DEAL!!!!
The goal must have nothing to do with a minimum wage; that can be manipulated by the rideshare companies and will result in no tipping. The fight should be focused on the drivers getting 80 percent or even 75 percent of a passenger’s payment without that silly numbers game with “after expenses”. If passengers believe that the driver is getting 75-80 percent of their payment, then tips won’t be affected. I think this is not much of a W.
It's good news. It's active time, but means that pickup time is included, drive time in heavy traffic. I'm not going to cry about boston traffic anymore. BUT rider fares will go up reducing active time as % of total. It applies throughout the state, so in my market outside of amherst na I'll do well (long pickups in suburbs no longer unpaid). It will be applied as an average of all your rides hard to know if daily, weekly?
As if passengers regularly tip. Drivers already create more than enough value to Uber Corporate to get paid $32.50/hour which likely only active time driving passengers instead of just being merely online. Back in the early 2010s, this would have been money readily made until the take rate of Uber starting getting severely out of balance in relation to the value provided by the driver.
Higher pay is still better. I don't get many tips now anyways. Just had 2 trips to airport and from airport, both trips i loaded their luggage, NO tip. It happens quite often. I do it because otherwise they would scratch my bumper.
Definitely a common sense step in the right direction, which by the way should be in every single market in the United States. We as drivers should not have to beg for these things.
You begging for a tax increase. You can make $32/hr just by following their analytics. But as an employee you lose your business miles deduction ($.67/mile) www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-the-411-on-who-can-deduct-car-expenses-on-their-tax-returns
I think fighting for the right to be in whatever que you actually want to be in plus combining this with a 80/20 split would be awesome. If they want us to accept Uber x and Uber x share rides the answer is simple just pay more per ride in order to make it worth it. Acceptance rates will rise on their own - in case you weren’t aware Uber decided to combine Uber comfort with Uber x & Uber shared rides. (Terrible decision-but this should let you know they need more drivers to take those low paying fares) if all the comfort eligible cars decided to quit tomorrow they’d be in a world of trouble-that’s why they combined the ques - they “need us” to take the lower paying rides.
I know it look a lot but is not. Believe me i used to drive taxi and 5 years ago the rate was $40 a hour and that is not including driving miles all the time. Remember long trip highway we can drive abot 60 miles in a hour so wwe are guaranteed only $32 for 60 miles. but it is a start because if you get stock in traffic in a short trip you will will get pay for it
Just letting ou know in california uber anf lyf trows many x trips that pay 15-20 per hour so 30 per hour is not bad for starting if you get tips that would rise our earnings
Their gonna start locking out drivers during low demand hours. Their doing this in NYC. Drivers that were making over $300 a day are now making $180 per day.
This is the problem with Ubereats nowadays. In my area I'm averaging 5 dollars an hour being online while delivering orders! 5 dollars an hour!! That's pitiful and it's not enough. The reason why it's like this is because there's no drivers cap, basically the drivers assigned to an area can be limitless so of course anyone closest to a delivery is going to get the offer. Also, you can screw up your metrics by not keeping the highest pro-level which is diamond, and/or canceling even just one delivery request. Simple factors like this will seriously limit the opportunities you will receive in getting a delivery in an area crowded with online delivery drivers.
I drive Uber in Montreal Canada, these crocks taking HUGE advantage of drivers here, and the provincial government dont give a shit, actually is more crocked than them, imposing tons of rules on drivers just to milk money, no body will fight for us here...i am desperate...
$32.5 is only for active hours meaning if you're online but not having a customer you will not get paid for that time. If you're online for 1 hours, active for 45 min and 15 min without customer. You will get only $24. I mean they will give you the difference if you maid less than $24
Now them hiring as many drivers as possible may come to a stop. You watch there will be mass deactivation and they will simply freeze drivers out of app,to get out of paying😢 These scumbags always find the workaround 😡
WTF are step children here in CA, and how is there 360 cars in the LA LAX lot when there are on 150 parking spaces and i will give 20 for illegal parkers that still doesn't equal 360 cars or should i say phones.
I would never unionize anyway because I don't like paying union dues. I only started to work for Uber because I moved in this area, and I wanted to get the lay of the land. I live in Massachusetts, and this all sounds good. But the rate of pay per hour is only good when the passenger is in your car until you dropped them off. Half the time the ride will not last that long anyway. It takes more time to go and pick the person up. I get a lot of rides that it will take almost 15-20 minutes to pick someone up just to take them around the corner for a less then $5 ride. ~sigh~ If it takes me longer to get a person then the ride itself, and not get paid proper, I will not take that ride. I only work maybe, maybe 15-20s a week anyway. I don't think this is going to do me any good, considering the gas and the wear & tear on my car. Also, I wish they would get rid of radar trips; I never accept those.
Hey guys, boston driver here for over 8 years and a 70%+ acceptance rate. So the deceptive thing about this agreement is that any drivers who play the lyft/uber rideshare app game will already make upwards of 35 an hour on active time , i make 36 on average over all online even when not “engaged” as the agreement calls it, havent even done the math on just active time (which will obviously be much higher) so theres no real win here. im afraid they may use this to jack fare prices up and leave the drivers with same pay with this PR stunt. Only 2 things i see new here is the sick pay and the settlement money. 1hour sick pay for every 15 hours worked up to 40 hours a year. Which is a joke in itself a cold lasts over 7 days on average and people get sick more than 3 times a year but it is a step in the right direction. I feel they made this minimum guarantee just to give a basis for the sick pay rate. I was hoping for a percent increase in rates or something higher than what its been but it seems nothing will change as far as pay per ride goes. Bummer.
Also wanted to add that i know our states results are different and much better off than other states, primarily because of the strict background checks, but to call this an improvement is technically true but only for sick pay not reg pay. People outside of the city will also continue to struggle to find rides which means they still have to deal with all the downtime killing their actual hourly wage.
Your sitting in a car all day with your back turned to a customer. If you are letting a cold stop you from providing for your family, then ur just finding an excuse for more sick pay
Absolutely is a win. You might be making $35 an hour but the average Uber or Lyft driver is not making $35 an hour. Most of them probably aren’t even even making $25 an hour. Read the actual agreement. This is a good deal.
@@mattcoorey2580 the reason why they arent making 35 an hour is because of the downtime waiting for rides. This “agreement” is only paying for active hour not online hour so these people making less than 35 are still not gonna make the 32.50 if the utilization rate is less than 100%. At 50% they are only guaranteed 16.25. Very misleading
Yeah, but they thought two dollars per hour. They will count the time only when you pick up the passenger and drop it off they will not count the time when you go and waste time to pick up the passenger which should be included too, but they're snitching.
This is not good for drivers at all, it’s better to just get a higher mile per dollar rate, like $2 per mile or something similar to that, a hourly rate base on active time won’t be good for drivers.
Should be one union nationwide instead of one state union please brother work on this idea and we should get the whole fare instead of split fare they should get dispatching fees
We want transparent 80/20 split without insurance and other cheating! Keep going Professor!
Exactly
Uber is talking. 50% frfr
They killing us on insurance...fare is crazy $7 for 20 minute ride..like 35 cents a minute dont let u be stuck in traffic u still get paid the same..
I dont want a guaranteed hourly rate! I want a higher time and distance rate!!! They lowered it in 2021!
Dara is a Criminal
Why are we fighting for hourly rates? I would rather we get rate cards that will not limit hourly earnings.
I believe it's $32.50 per active or engaged hr... NOT straight per hour. Meaning if utilization is 50%, it's $16.25 per hour before expenses. So not great.
Agree. Also for long rides not worth it. In in CA/ not MA but sometimes i get $60/70 hr rides for long trips. Just make it simple $ x mile plus $ x minute = total comp
That is correct. It look good in slow traffic but not on long driving miles which we will still getting only about 50 cent a miles
Enjoy your incoming deactivations and scheduling
Does this affects uber eats delivery drivers or only the ride-share?
Depends if rides are available
A 3 hr trip on the highway would pay you 97.50+tip, deduct the gas of round trip mileage and the tear and wear on your car.
Food, hotel logging if you can get back home. How much do you take home at the end of that trip? 😂😂😂😂
We should fight for a 90/10 split , uber and lyft can pay all their fees with with just 20% of thier 10 %. We should fight for that. F??k hourly and vacation bullshit i want freedom.
They will start to treat mass drivers just like NY drivers. Shutting on and shutting off drivers to control rate.
Not because this is only from accepting to dropping off unlike ny which is while the driver is online
For better or worse, this $32.50 is only while driving to a passenger or with a passenger in the vehicle.
Therefore, if driver demand is low, they're not beholden to the minimum pay as drivers won't be earning that minimum (since there are no rides).
Most likely talking about active hour, not online hour
Right. Taxi active hours is from $45 a hour up to $80 a constantly driving hour
it includes time on the way to pickup, an actual ride. we still have work to do, but this is a start.
I think again will some scam , they’ll add some other “expenses” I hope that going to be really true
And they will lock you out of app to keep from paying up.
its active hour, from time accept to drop off.. but its bassed off of 2 weeks of active time, not per ride,
And watch as your minimum pay also becomes maximum pay
Those drivers are screwed 😂 good luck with getting online anytime you want. Imagine getting into the gig business just to become an employee again 😭 the average driver will have to drive a 50 mile 1hr trip just to make $32 and then drive 50 miles back EL OH EL
When do we get the same in orange and Los angeles?
You don't want the same if it only engaged hours. Think about it, a long 100 mile trip would only pay you for the 100 miles. It probably pay you the 100 miles back.
A similar thing happened here in New York State. There was a settlement between the Attorney General and the rideshare companies. Drivers are supposed to earn $26.78 per "active" hour, and there was supposed to be a settlement payment. This was instituted on February 29th, 2024. So far I have not seen a check, but what I have seen is a significant slowdown on lyft. I suspect this is because the hourly rate clock starts when you accept the ride, and ends when you drop off. Sitting idle pays nothing, even if online. These companies always find workarounds.
Yeah he must of completly missed the nys settlement from 2 years ago. This is almost a direct copy of it for upstate ny.
Spread the word 90/10 for florida.
Free tires every 6months pay from uber/lyfts 10%
I wish.
(St Pete / Tampa) here
Yes please. Tampa/St.Pete also
In California, I believe it should be $40 an hour. The cost of living here and the cost of living in Massachusetts. I’m sure it is completely different.
Very similar, actually.
Massachusetts is more then California come and try to live here a bed room apartment is 4000 dollars per month dozen of eggs is 8 dollars
It's almost the same
Massachusetts is not a cheap place to live in, specially in the Greater Boston area.
Matter fact Massachusetts especially Boston Metro as expensive or even more expensive then LA and California
Califotnia still get hamstrung by prop 22 with highest gas, registration/license/insurance fees. This is nonsense.
Sancuary city, state. Leave the work to illigals or foreingers and move.
According to one of the comments, Drivers may need to get ready for another lawsuit… It looks like Uber in NY force logs drivers off the platform during downtime to avoid minimum pay… They always have a scheme…
Exactly
As things currently stand - In California, Uber drivers might as well go to work at Burger King, In N Out, Carl’s Jr… etc 😂
And why doesn't every state do the same immediately, like today.
Wow and in Minnesota we fought hard to get $15 hour lol 1.28 mile $.39 min 😢😅
Yes but they paying good for the miles there in Massachusetts they not talking about the miles
not hard enough. keep fighting the good fight!
A completely different area. It's like comparing California to North Dakota.
Yeah, quite a contrast between how MA and MN played out. Maybe the MN weather makes people cold inside. Like they are entirely devoid of empathy. I honestly can't understand otherwise how MA's leaders understood the importance of paying drivers a livable wage, and but the ones in MN can not.
If they set our prices, we are not independent contractors.
If your not an independent contractor you get no tax write off .67c/mile (in your defense uber should not be allowed to punish drivers for low acceptance rate - which would increase fares, uber should also reward drivers for high acceptance rates) www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-the-411-on-who-can-deduct-car-expenses-on-their-tax-returns
You are, you just choose to accept the pay or not lol
We all know about shavings Uber utilizes. Next for MA will be their "active hour" shaving. Mark my words!
What about Chicago drivers
You don’t want it in Chicago the way how is happening in NYC and Seattle is not great
The original lawsuits concerning driver classification, Prop 22, were done through California and Massachusetts. Why Massachusetts?
1:02 so far following this logic, is better take short trips in heavy traffic, than take long trip through the highway, because in this case 45 miles in 40 min it will be like $21.67. For me it will worth if they guarantee $32.50/h on trip plus $1.00+/mile.
Should be like $40/hour for Chicago. It’s waaay too expensive here for the amount they pay us
Dara is a proven thief
Just because there is an agreement does not mean Uber and Lyft will actually do it
it starts august 15
It’s the law
They will have to comply but I think it comes out to about $16 per hour but I'm not sure.
dude this is so awesome. Rideshare one thing about you man you stick to your guns man, appreciate you being an advocate for us
🙏❤️👍
@@AskTorstenyes we definitely appreciate you profesor 🙌👍💪
Yes we are super happy here in Massachusetts i hope that every state does the same or better for the Drivers all of us we deserve a better wage stay strong 💪🏻
👏 👏 👏… once that start…let me/us know how that works… because if they are going to start giving u only long trips where they still going to be charging to riders 80 bucks and you are getting $35 out of that ride and you end that trip in 50 min; maybe you will have a little bit more than $32.50 dollars an hour. Now if you give 3 to 4 , $3 real short trips in 1 hour; they going to have reimbursed you more money to complete your $32.50 dollars an hour, and that sounds much better cuz you don’t use your vehicle that much and don’t spent so much gas. … omg it sound complicated lol … ✌🏼 from Cali
Are you guys employees, if so do you still get your $.67/mile TAX deduction? www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-the-411-on-who-can-deduct-car-expenses-on-their-tax-returns
Per active hour while activity driving passengers. So it's not that good unless you're getting paid waiting for rides, too. But i doubt that.
It should only be per mile and / or😂 per minute
Wow that’s a great news!! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 hope we all can get together and make this happen EVERY STATE! did you hear me uber??
Is not good news
Please do this in Texas…We’re struggling
🙏🏾
Congratulations to Massachusetts! I hope here in Florida we can get our asses going and do the same thing!!
But we have to fight for it. Even if it means shutting off our apps in protest. What we REALLY need is to form a specialized union specifically for the gig workers. A strong union is the best way we can fight for what we deserve.
If you’re in Miami, check out driving with InDrive. You can negotiate fares, and they only take 20%.
Lately gigs become a corporation of evil
They owe drivers in the $billions for how they've ripped drivers off, especially here in California!!
I’m here in Massachusetts and many of us are still left wondering what it all means for us. Are we going back to a rate card? Because that pay is just a minimum for active hours. We have been getting upfront info since August 11th, 2022. And that was a major pay cut. I like the health insurance part though.
Your earnings will be adjusted
Don't worry uber will find a work around to still screw drivers.
I pickwd up a rider from Dorchester and dropped her off in Randolph. Uber charged her 84$ and i got 32$. Crazy.
Unfortunately I live in Fort Wayne Indiana and the market here is basically take what they give you . That is why next month I will drive for FedEx. Such a shame because if they were more fair to the drivers it would’ve been the perfect job for me and my family.
In San Antonio, Texas will be lucky if we even see $10 an hour. Lyft and Uber are taking 70 to 80 % and leaving us with bread crumbs.
So why are you working for them ? And to make matters worse, they have y'all using y'all own cars.
Oh, great, now southern New Hampshire drivers will be offered tons of drop offs in Massachusetts, where we’re only allowed to drop off and are forced to deadhead back to New Hampshire. It doesn’t sound like we’re any part of this except getting the sh*t end of the stick.
The part that made me really happy about this is the whole deactivation review part because I know a lot of good people who got deactivated because of a Karen lying in their complaints
💩I smell something 💩!!! I need further clarification on the hours they are paying the drivers.
If this law were in California, what would Uber & Lyft pay to a driver for a ride from Sacramento California to San Francisco (let's say a 100 mile trip) ??? Would they pay for the driver to come back to Sacramento California (another 100 mile trip) ???
Hypothetically speaking, lets say it took two hours do complete the trip. Let's say the driver was able to average 50 miles per hour on the freeway. That would mean they would pay the driver $65.00 to do this ($32.50 X 2 = $65.00). Would Uber and Lyft be required to pay the driver to drive back to Sacramento California (I don't think so)???
If I was a driver, I wouldn't take this ride. Taking into account todays gas prices, I would pay roughly $40 dollars in gas to go there and back. This would net me $25.00 for 4 hours of work driving there and back. This would = $25.00 / 4 = $6.25 per hour. This doesn't even take into account depreciation etc. For 2024 the IRS standard mileage rate for business is 67 cents per mile.
This is the math for the IRS standard mileage deduction in 2024. The mileage deduction is 67 cents per mile for all business miles driven, this includes dead miles driving back. So the mileage deduction from Sacramento to San Francisco, there and back would be as follows. 100 miles there, 100 miles back would be 200 miles. 67 cents IRS standard mileage deduction times 200 would be a $135 IRS standard mileage deduction. I can guarantee Uber and Lyft ARE NOT paying cents per mile and cents per minute for dead miles back and between rides. There is the further question of, would Uber and Lyft pay for injury's in an auto accident when the driver is between rides and if so does the coverage change? This is a NO MONEY DEAL!!!!
The goal must have nothing to do with a minimum wage; that can be manipulated by the rideshare companies and will result in no tipping. The fight should be focused on the drivers getting 80 percent or even 75 percent of a passenger’s payment without that silly numbers game with “after expenses”. If passengers believe that the driver is getting 75-80 percent of their payment, then tips won’t be affected. I think this is not much of a W.
It's good news. It's active time, but means that pickup time is included, drive time in heavy traffic.
I'm not going to cry about boston traffic anymore.
BUT rider fares will go up reducing active time as % of total.
It applies throughout the state, so in my market outside of amherst na I'll do well (long pickups in suburbs no longer unpaid).
It will be applied as an average of all your rides hard to know if daily, weekly?
Wait till they freeze you out 4 hours per shift
So, General
How do we bring the fight to California!!?
Still not an independent contractor if you are dealing with hourly wages
Fucking where’s be in California???
I love the pay increase. However I'm fearful of being treated as an employee. Paid sick time off? I don't want that. I want my freedom
Still freedom. Just we might get less job now
So you want sick you want sick uber drivers spreading desease? Nice ❤
its not a pay increase , its the same at the rate card prior to upfront pricing
Unfortunately we are not independent contractors if they decide the prices.
SORRY SIR,THIS IS A VERY BAD NEWS BECAUSE THEY WILL DEFINITELY TAKE IT FROM THE DRIVERS!!!
Say good-bye to your tips. Passengers getting paid $25 an hour aren't going to tip drivers if they think they're making $32.50 an hour.
Only about 1 in 6 riders tips regularly, tips are nice and a maybe. I don't work for maybe.
Why not? I'd tip a bartender even though I know they potentially make way more than me. I tip for good service.
As if passengers regularly tip. Drivers already create more than enough value to Uber Corporate to get paid $32.50/hour which likely only active time driving passengers instead of just being merely online. Back in the early 2010s, this would have been money readily made until the take rate of Uber starting getting severely out of balance in relation to the value provided by the driver.
Higher pay is still better. I don't get many tips now anyways. Just had 2 trips to airport and from airport, both trips i loaded their luggage, NO tip. It happens quite often. I do it because otherwise they would scratch my bumper.
So few people tip anyway, this is not a negative in my mind.
I wonder: como le habrá quedado el recto al criminal de Dará, me imagino igual que al de su vieja: Todo desflorado
A step in the right direction
All best wishes from your brothers over the pond here in the uk🇬🇧
We appreciate you 👍🙏❤️
Definitely a common sense step in the right direction, which by the way should be in every single market in the United States. We as drivers should not have to beg for these things.
You begging for a tax increase. You can make $32/hr just by following their analytics. But as an employee you lose your business miles deduction ($.67/mile) www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-the-411-on-who-can-deduct-car-expenses-on-their-tax-returns
A Viet Namese company is getting into the Rideshare business too! Lets see how this turns out. More competition for Uber and Lyft.
Nice now we're talking business finally
I think fighting for the right to be in whatever que you actually want to be in plus combining this with a 80/20 split would be awesome. If they want us to accept Uber x and Uber x share rides the answer is simple just pay more per ride in order to make it worth it. Acceptance rates will rise on their own - in case you weren’t aware Uber decided to combine Uber comfort with Uber x & Uber shared rides. (Terrible decision-but this should let you know they need more drivers to take those low paying fares) if all the comfort eligible cars decided to quit tomorrow they’d be in a world of trouble-that’s why they combined the ques - they “need us” to take the lower paying rides.
I know it look a lot but is not. Believe me i used to drive taxi and 5 years ago the rate was $40 a hour and that is not including driving miles all the time. Remember long trip highway we can drive abot 60 miles in a hour so wwe are guaranteed only $32 for 60 miles. but it is a start because if you get stock in traffic in a short trip you will will get pay for it
what is it about Massachusetts that suddenly Uber gave in there ?
they are manipulating words again, nice
Very good!
Is it for X, or Comfort / XL drivers??
If $32.50 hourly, then what’s the sense of getting an expensive ride? Just drive a cheaper car then!
It's not enough, we still want a union! In NY there is the driver lockout!
Great to the drivers in Boston we have to do it in California
Just letting ou know in california uber anf lyf trows many x trips that pay 15-20 per hour so 30 per hour is not bad for starting if you get tips that would rise our earnings
Their gonna start locking out drivers during low demand hours. Their doing this in NYC. Drivers that were making over $300 a day are now making $180 per day.
This is the problem with Ubereats nowadays. In my area I'm averaging 5 dollars an hour being online while delivering orders! 5 dollars an hour!! That's pitiful and it's not enough. The reason why it's like this is because there's no drivers cap, basically the drivers assigned to an area can be limitless so of course anyone closest to a delivery is going to get the offer. Also, you can screw up your metrics by not keeping the highest pro-level which is diamond, and/or canceling even just one delivery request. Simple factors like this will seriously limit the opportunities you will receive in getting a delivery in an area crowded with online delivery drivers.
I drive Uber in Montreal Canada, these crocks taking HUGE advantage of drivers here, and the provincial government dont give a shit, actually is more crocked than them, imposing tons of rules on drivers just to milk money, no body will fight for us here...i am desperate...
Massachusetts whines about lack of teachers. Why teach when you can drive for $32.50 or more?
What will happen to us here in California
$32.5 is only for active hours meaning if you're online but not having a customer you will not get paid for that time.
If you're online for 1 hours, active for 45 min and 15 min without customer. You will get only $24. I mean they will give you the difference if you maid less than $24
Now them hiring as many drivers as possible may come to a stop.
You watch there will be mass deactivation and they will simply freeze drivers out of app,to get out of paying😢
These scumbags always find the workaround 😡
WTF are step children here in CA, and how is there 360 cars in the LA LAX lot when there are on 150 parking spaces and i will give 20 for illegal parkers that still doesn't equal 360 cars or should i say phones.
What about San Francisco?
They gonna start limiting trips to 10 a day. Watch. It’s already capped at 12 hours. Once you reach a certain amount, the app is going to lockout
I would never unionize anyway because I don't like paying union dues. I only started to work for Uber because I moved in this area, and I wanted to get the lay of the land. I live in Massachusetts, and this all sounds good. But the rate of pay per hour is only good when the passenger is in your car until you dropped them off. Half the time the ride will not last that long anyway. It takes more time to go and pick the person up. I get a lot of rides that it will take almost 15-20 minutes to pick someone up just to take them around the corner for a less then $5 ride. ~sigh~ If it takes me longer to get a person then the ride itself, and not get paid proper, I will not take that ride. I only work maybe, maybe 15-20s a week anyway. I don't think this is going to do me any good, considering the gas and the wear & tear on my car. Also, I wish they would get rid of radar trips; I never accept those.
So this is why we aren’t seeing any more promotions
Still making more than MBTA Bus driver starting pay per hour
Hey guys, boston driver here for over 8 years and a 70%+ acceptance rate. So the deceptive thing about this agreement is that any drivers who play the lyft/uber rideshare app game will already make upwards of 35 an hour on active time , i make 36 on average over all online even when not “engaged” as the agreement calls it, havent even done the math on just active time (which will obviously be much higher) so theres no real win here. im afraid they may use this to jack fare prices up and leave the drivers with same pay with this PR stunt. Only 2 things i see new here is the sick pay and the settlement money. 1hour sick pay for every 15 hours worked up to 40 hours a year. Which is a joke in itself a cold lasts over 7 days on average and people get sick more than 3 times a year but it is a step in the right direction. I feel they made this minimum guarantee just to give a basis for the sick pay rate. I was hoping for a percent increase in rates or something higher than what its been but it seems nothing will change as far as pay per ride goes. Bummer.
Also wanted to add that i know our states results are different and much better off than other states, primarily because of the strict background checks, but to call this an improvement is technically true but only for sick pay not reg pay. People outside of the city will also continue to struggle to find rides which means they still have to deal with all the downtime killing their actual hourly wage.
Already gone this way in CT without the lawsuit. Min pay has become Max pay as well
Your sitting in a car all day with your back turned to a customer. If you are letting a cold stop you from providing for your family, then ur just finding an excuse for more sick pay
Absolutely is a win. You might be making $35 an hour but the average Uber or Lyft driver is not making $35 an hour. Most of them probably aren’t even even making $25 an hour.
Read the actual agreement. This is a good deal.
@@mattcoorey2580 the reason why they arent making 35 an hour is because of the downtime waiting for rides. This “agreement” is only paying for active hour not online hour so these people making less than 35 are still not gonna make the 32.50 if the utilization rate is less than 100%. At 50% they are only guaranteed 16.25. Very misleading
where are you california government you are sleeping you are just not doing business take an example from them
Does anyone know the effective date for this new legislation? Jan 1st, 2025?
And what's so special about driving in Massachusetts?
Why can't drivers get paid like that in every state then?
Man Orlando Florida is the worst payd, and alot of Venezuelans
This is a victory for all of us. This case sets Precedence. I hope it stays hybrid. I don't want to end up as an employee of Uber.
Does that apply to Uber Eats as well?
It's terrible deal for the drivers. They should have been paid Seattle rates instead and capped Uber's cut at 20%.
What about Colorado? They are wripping us off left in right in Colorado!
We should do this in ct
Why not?!
They give u 20
Min rides 7-8 dollar
F that shit
Yeah, but they thought two dollars per hour. They will count the time only when you pick up the passenger and drop it off they will not count the time when you go and waste time to pick up the passenger which should be included too, but they're snitching.
This what uber is paying average in bay area..already..uber taking 50% frfr
I just work 5 hours here in San Diego I made 36 dollars this is disaster that’s less than 8 dollars in hour if i sty home will save more money 😂😂
Is that Active hour?
This is not good for drivers at all, it’s better to just get a higher mile per dollar rate, like $2 per mile or something similar to that, a hourly rate base on active time won’t be good for drivers.
wridz stilll better
Driver take home pay will plummet. When independent drivers want to be employees, it always happens. The state and lawyers are the only winner.
Should be one union nationwide instead of one state union please brother work on this idea and we should get the whole fare instead of split fare they should get dispatching fees
I think we could all use a short instructional video on how to take them up on the healthcare stipend
How about in California
no they'll have to block autonomous vehicles.
less rides and less tips on the way. People will just go back to using taxis.
That is fair pay but they need a guaranteed annual increase.
Could you please share the case number or details so we can write our senators and respective attorney generals?