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Nobody thinks that. We do think we should take responsibility for the welfare of other peoples than our own, should protect them if they need protection from their own countries. So yes, borders should be guarded, but those fleeing prosecution, disease, or severe economic hardship deserve our help. It's not their fault they were born where they were born.
Toon Holman there is people that protest for no borders at all I’m not saying you do or everyone does but there is a pretty large number of Americans that do I to think we should help people but we have a lot of our own that need help first and if they come they should have to do it legally and go threw the screenings and legal borders crossings
i see nothing wrong with Spain, the wrong thing is the corrupted governments in those African countries. Something must be done to improve African countries.
@@herra1519 we will take it back, don't worry, we will rather fight them economically, when they claim Gibraltar from great britain we will claim mellila and ceuta
It's funny, because the far-right ultraconservative party in Spain is also called Vox. What a coincidence. (Vox is also a book publisher, here in Spain I have seen books under that publishing house, for example, it is said that their Spanish-Latin dictionary is the best)
As human beings with sufficient resources we ought to help others. This comment section is full of pro brexit right wing bots and people. The undecided voter now gets the final vote on their opinion from such unreliable and uninformed opinions of the internet.
@@kieranmctague6231 we ought to help others but this is not the way. If their countries don't evolve they'll just keep coming, we need a better long term solution than letting inmigrants in.
This is by far the best series vox has ever done. Please make a part 7 in the future. I know this took lots of time and money to make. But it truly has opened my eyes to how complex borders are, and the people they separate.
hes, as far as i know, uploading once a week. topics: boarders arround the world. what a great job he has and what creativity and message he builts into this.
Thank you for this video! I'm Moroccan and I do believe that this subject doesn't get the attention it deserves. Today numerous migrants abandoned the idea of crossing the borders to Europe and decided to settle down in Morocco as the country is experiencing a steady growth. In 2013, Morocco has launched a new migration policy to facilitate the naturalization of migrants and help them settle down in the country. However, since 2013, 2 of the 3 main reforms haven't been adopted yet and are still considered as Law projects ...furthermore my country still didn't agree on a readmission agreement with the EU commission, because Moroccan politicians don't want to be legally bound to readmit migrants from other countries. Lastly, this migration crisis is used by Moroccan authorities as a trump card to press on the Spanish authorities and the EU for settling down the Sahara conflict with Algeria and get more funds from the EU.
But why do they have to risk death going to Europe? There are many neighboring nations that would likely take them in and that aren't in conflict. Most of them aren't fleeing from war but rather are economic migrants.
+Isais Madrid Madrid Because the quality of living is much higher in Europe, they take advantage of government aid, and then get to enjoy a society neither them nor their ancestors had any part in building.
THANK YOU. I came here to post this. With this logic, St. Pierre and Miquelon are also Europe... which is clearly not the case. This story is about territory of a European country in Africa.
I think we've shed light to every corner regarding illegal immigration, but not enough light to the reason what drove them to force themselves into the continent in the first place.
I agree with you 100% because the thing behind the thing is the real thing. For the umpteenth time, let the Europeans stop stealing Africa's resources or sending weapons of mass destruction that cause wars in Africa or at the very least let the West stop meddling in the affairs of African countries. The day that the West stops all that is the day the Africans will stop climbing over those fences.
Currently Spain has one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe, as well as a deficit problem in its budget. It is literally impossible to grant inmigrants good living conditions. Most of them end up involved in ilegal activities such as drug trafficking. As we can see in the video, the ones who try to jump the fence belong to the young part of the population; by fleeing their homeland in search of a better life they end up compromising their own country's future.
Here we can't deal with Spanish people without a job, so imagine how it would be with immigrants. First of all, we have to solve all our problems(mass corruption, debt,unemployment, etc etc)then, just then, and maybe, we could help those poor people. But it would be a better solution to solve the problems they have in their contries.
A great comment. Someone who finally understands the whole situation, and doesn't resort to insulting and being racist. Someone who considers all of the facts. As said already, this deserves to be much higher up in the comments.
@@demarkish9098 we are talking about economical development. with the Afrikan population exploding. Afrikan money will simply be worth nothing. this will lead to more violence.
I'm from Melilla. You also reminded of its location because half of its population is Spanish of Moroccan origin. Also it's the secon most Modernist city in Spain. In recent events, Morocco is using people who are in a desperate and vulnerable situation as a "weapon" against Spain because of a diplomatic crisis, so sad. Also, EU dissapears in these crisis....
@@luismiguelgarcia-morato8659 No. La UE defende sus intereses. Te aconsejo que recapacites sobre quién estaría con nosotros en una crisis. Te aseguro de antemano que USA y Francia no
What I don't understand - and this sounds heartless but I mean it in good faith - is why they can't just stay in Morocco? Since they're not in danger of being deported and there's no war over there, why do they need to get to Spain?And yeah sure, for a better life I understand that, but in that case why does it matter if they're coming from a war torn country or a peaceful but dirt poor country?It just doesn't make sense to me.
I think this is a good argument to make. I have often wondered that as well. I don't want to diminish the plight of these people - but is there something stopping them from working in Morocco? Also globally - I think we need to end the sham of "Work permission" -- why should anybody decide if a person is allowed to work - if they are qualified for a job - they should just get it!
Morocco simply can't deal with the massive influx of immigrants, either. What happens right now is that they receive large aid packages from Europe of all sorts - money to build and maintain the fences, to train police, to adopt new technologies, to feed the Sub-Saharan immigrants, etc. This means that Morocco can employ more of their people and keep the Sub-Saharans moderately fed, but only as long as the EU sees a value in doing so. Basically, if Morocco gives these people any sort of legal recognition, the country would implode - there'd suddenly be thousands of homeless, unemployed Sub-Saharans that instead of being in a limbo, would become Morocco's problem. And then, the EU could easily wash their hands and leave them stranded with this massive problem. Europe doesn't want them, and Morocco only wants them as long as they're undocumented and trying to cross over.
I live in morocco,and the thing is,a lot of them chose to stay here,those who really just want peace and to look for a job to provide for their famillies do stay,those you see in the video are just chasing the eu dream,what Briss said is also true ,there are some benefits that they can get in Europe that they cant get here..
Maybe the youth unemployment rate of 20% might be a hint why Moroccans want to leave their country...or the extremely tense situation of the West Saharan conflict. All just thoughts.
You must have a lot of endurance to be able to cross the Sahara, cross that boarder, cross the Mediterranean sea into Europe, all while avoiding capture.
@Thomas Shelby Leader of the Peaky Fookin Blinders It was conquered centuries ago if Morroco wants it we can fight for it again let's see how far the Morrocans get 😁
@@Darl-ur3uq my neighborhood in Morocco south sahara is half sub africans today, they work and pay bills like any of us and they hard workers except for those who use Morocco as cross land to Europe and destroy lands steal to survive so they can sink in the mideterinian and Morocco is the one to blame for those few immigrants
StickyFingerz no it doesn’t make it right. But what are they supposed to do lol carry it over the walls and throw it in the garbage. These people are running for there life I’m sure they dgaf about plastic
They blame racism, but don't tell you that the migrants seen climbing fences can also apply for asylum at the border just like the Syrian refugees. The reason they don't is because either they don't want to go through the process and wait, and just want land feet at one of the refugee centers and then they can stay, or because they know they will be denied, as they aren't from a war torn country, aren't being oppressed etc
Spain is just protecting their own border and I think that's completely justified. If someone were trying to break into my home, I would do whatever it takes to protect my property.
Dude, that's not your home. That's like taking over my house, leaving but still claiming a room and then beating my children when they try to enter said room, which shouldn't even have been yours in the first place!
Mass immigration is just a short term solution for the immigrants, with terrible consequences for Europe. Without development in Africa, this will keep on going forever. Neo colonialism and corruption is the problem, and as soon as those two things are gone, protected borders won't be as necessary.
After a little Google search: “Several studies have shown that most African migrations are not directed towards Europe, but towards other African countries (Schoumaker et al., 2015; Sander & Maimbo, 2003) and that those moving out of Africa do not only move to Europe but also to the Gulf countries and the Americas (Bakewell & De Haas, 2007).” “Contradicting common idea that African emigration is essentially about irregular movement, previous research has suggested that most Africans migrate out of the continent in possession of valid passports, visas and other travel documentation (cf. Schoorl et al. 2000, Heering, Esveldt, Groenewold, van der Erf, Bosch, de Valk, and de Bruijn, 2000). More generally, recent scholarship has started to question the implicit assumption that African migration is ‘exceptional’ and essentially different from migration elsewhere. More and more micro-evidence emerges indicating that most Africans migrate for family, work or study (Schoumaker et al., 2015) (Bakewell & Jόnsson, 2011), as is the case in other world regions.” I always do a little Google search for my own sanity after watching western news/documentaries these days.
Correction for grammar/spelling It is a universally understood right of sovereign nations to defend their own boarders. Umm, he didn't mess up too bad.
jakub c. All fair points, but the solution is for them to stay at home and improve their own countries through their own labour. If they did that, they would see their quality of life improve. Would it be easy? No, but it’s better for their whole country and peoples if they stay and give it a go.
Yes... that is the European Union law but this does not determine if they are free. They are held in camps in Europe or elsewhere until they are approved. People are in camps from years, some are lucky and less. It depends on the countries intake.
The laws were written by people who had to seek refuge whenthey were targeted because they were jews or who fled the wars in europe. Because of this they put laws in place that made sure others would find refuge aswell when they were in a similar position...
I think that what a lot of people fail to realize it’s that both cities do not feel Moroccan nor do they want to leave Morocco. In the 18th century, Gibraltar was conquered by the British and since then it’s been British. They do not feel Spanish, they don’t wanna be Spanish. Ceuta was conquered by the Portuguese back in 1415 and had been a very turbulent area since forever. One of the things about being strategically important is that you’ll change hands a lot through history. Essentially it had been a “Moroccan” (as in controlled by what is today Modern-day Morocco) city for (non-consecutively) 200 years, but if we take the amount of time it was hold by the Visigoths of Spain and the different Spanish Taifas, it gets to roughly the same amount. Finally, if we take the actual time it’s been under Spain herself, it’s around 382 years, plus the time it was under Portugal’s and Iberian’s (former+latter) influence. Melilla was actually (as a city) under Moroccan influence by quite more time, little over 300 years. Since then, by Spain herself for 500+ years. It doesn’t matter whhere they are, but rather what their inhabitants feel like.
@@uzumaki2466 Only in Moroccan fantasies did Morocco exist before the 20th century almost like claiming Roman Hispania was Spain. Anyhow Ceuta and Melilla are not yours and never will be and even the UN does not consider these lands colonies unlike the situation with the Saharahui people .
I am Spanish and the borders in Melilla and Ceuta have always been a problem. The current situation is wrong because so many africans are suffering, but you cant simply open the borders of Europe to everyone who wants to enter. It is a very complex situation because it not only depends on Spain's interests but also on all the other nations of the EU. The only solution i can think of is to discourage people from illegally crossing the border and promote more legal asylum policies. But without the collaboration of the EU that is impossible.
@@freewal first, Ceuta and Melilla are not colonies, they are autonomous cities with representation in the Spanish Congress and second, Morocco has no justified rights over the Sahara area, they invaded it and annexed it without doing a referendum in there. Get your facts straight please.
Yeah classic west, let's blame Arabs. You mean Arabs begged the west to sell them slaves ? wasn't it Europeans who paid for it and asked for it. It's exactly the same situation as Spain Morocco borders. Europe pays Morocco to do its dirty work for them. (Almost like let's build a wall and make Mexico pay for it).
Even if Europeans slaved Africans, it's not a reason why Africa is poor. Europe faced in its history extremely high dangerous from antique to modern. Persians, Huns, Mongols, Black death, inner wars like 30 years war, I and II world war... Cold war... Not only Africans faced their troubles, Europeans had faced perhaps much more terrible events than Africans slavery and exploitation. The difference is in the mentality between Africans and Europeans. Europe always tries to rebuild itself, and strive for the future, when Africans are sitting on their asses. Compare Europe to Africa before slavery. You will see that Europeans aren't the reason of poverty in Africa.
Europeans came to America for Imperial reasons. To expand their land and wealth that's why the natives in the Americas were massacred. It was pure imperialism.
They are not Moroccans, they are subsaharans, they cross north african countries to get to Europe. let me guess. you are american? LoL. thats why your comment show how ignorant about the world you are.
Tomy Ray Spain is a shithole, just take a look at your countries economy and stability that will only worsen as time goes on with your feminist socialist government, not to mention how much worse it will get with the upcoming civil war(s) Africa is much worse than Spain obviously, but why compare a somewhat first world country to third world? Most of the immigrants from Africa go to Spain not to stay in Spain but to get to other places in Europe such as France Denmark Sweden ETC
Tomy Ray just thanks to the EU. Before joining the EU Spain was a shithole. Spain is more like Greece (actually Greece was better before joining the EU) or any other eastern european country in the EU. Not all countries benefited from the EU, such as Italy and it all because of those poor countries like Spain, who joined.
Tomy Ray I said before joining the EU. I live in Italy. Like 20 years ago there were no unemployment issues, now the situation is very bad. If you lose your job it might take you a year or more to find a new one and as I always knew Italy is far more richer than Spain. So if Italy is ruined, I am trying to imagine how is the situation in Spain. And I said Spanish was a shithole before joining the EU not now. Some countries benefit from joining the EU, others get worse, the case of Italy! Also a lot of spaniards (polish and italians as well) migrated to the UK and that’s one of the reasons brexit is happening. If it is a rich country to live in, nobody would have left for UK. There are some spaniards migrants in Morocco too and no they’re not bringing jobs, they are actually taking jobs from locals. Those who bring jobs are mostly italians and french.
No they are paying for a service, how is that bribing?? You think it's free to protect that border, you think it costs nothing to put that fence up, you think it's free to pay the soldiers and police to protect that border. Morocco aren't spending their dime to do something Spain has asked them to do.
its kinda like the Central America/Mexico/US Border. Spain is paying Morocco to keep Africans out. Just like America is paying Mexico to keep Central Americans out
I kinda feel like Europe and Moroccan are being portrait In a bad light here. Here’s just a quick reminder that Europe and Morocco are not the bad guys.
When you say that Europe and Morocco are not "the" bad guys it sounds like you think the refugees and asylum seekers are the bad guys. Do you have no sympathy for the guy who said that he was fleeing boko haram, the jihadi terrorist organization that among various other crimes against humanity, kidnaps, trains and kills children? These people are being killed for crossing a border unlawfully, what would it take for you to risk your life to cross a border? If you were plopped down in sub-saharan africa without any papers or money and being persecuted, would you try to escape persecution or get somewhere where you believe you can prosper?
Europe and Morocco are exactly the bad guys! The whole reason these desperate people are willing to risk their lives to cross the border is because making the 100m dash to the "immigration center" on the other side means safety. Europe and Morocco's policies created this mess. Why is the dude who got beat by a nail bat and stabbed in the neck still trying to find a way in? The whole situation feels like a video game, like a life-or-death level of Super Mario, and it all started because of boko haram and other terrorist groups started making life miserable for the people. Stop the wars, and you stop the migration crisis. If Europe and Morocco really wanted to stop the problem, why doesn't Spain just give Melilla back to Morocco and treat it like any other Moroccan city? Or remove the immigration center safe haven, which also removes the incentive for people to jump the death wall. Instead, they spend vast resources on building and reinforcing a silly wall, using police to bully the desperate people, and using short-term fixes like shipping them to far away cities. None of these tactics really address the underlying problem
@Chuck Norris so everybody living in poverty will steal your bags? Edit: Gucci bags? Or they'll smash your Lamborghini window to beg for food? Or they'll pick pocket your Apple Card? Hmm?
The problem is that Spain cannot absorb all the thousands of people coming from the African continent and people from other countries as well. It would be great, but unluckily, it is not possible for the moment being. It would be like pretending that Texas would do the same with all the South American people going there. This is not a continent, but a small country.
@@davidtirado818 not really, their contribution to the economy would be minimal and they're pay wouldn't be enough to solve the problem. Currently Spain has not a sufficient amount of low skill labour demand. Most of these jobs would go towards construction which doesn't have that much of a demand. In this case, immigrants with no or very low education will cause more problems than they'll solve.
@@davidtirado818 if you cut the helps yes but although that i know that the piramid is looking bad without the "relevo generacional" you cant just let in that much people and keep expending money on them at the same rate, if all where allowed to cross spain couldnt allow to mantain the help they gives them meaning that theyr conditions for the ones that cross are going to be way worse than now
They have a dream kind of illusion in that Europe is a nice place where they will have like a perfect life. So as long as they have this in mind they are not going to notice other opportunities
Don't say bullshit and think it'll magically turn to a fact. The biggest racism issues are always related to Europe. If you're ancestors didn't steal from Africa they wouldn't have been fleeing now their countries, and you wouldn't have put Morocco in such bad situation.
Damien McGonnell hahaha and all the Europeans are hardworking white collar people looking to prosper? But no. Your people are sucking their countries dry of welfare, sitting down at home with their subpar degrees or even lack off, crying to immigration to fall😂😂
It's wild that we question Spain's right to a 600 year-old territory, but levying that same criticism upon an 80-year-old country that's partaking in active genocide is taboo
@Shanti Andía *Technically* he isn't wrong.The State of Israel exists since 1948, so since 76 years, but the Israelites have lived there since ancient times. There were also the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea during the Iron Age . The Israelites were displaced many times during their history - by the Assyrians, the Romans, the Rashiduns and the Ottomans. In my opinion, they merely return to the home they were displaced from.
Could they return home without the support of imperial powers doing to others and aiding the Israelis to do themselves what has been done to them for centuries?
In a world where 95% of global wealth is consumed by few 10% this is just expected...the more Africa is kept underdeveloped the worse the problem will get..
@Aizen taicho I do not remember saying anywhere i support spanish mafia´s actions and i have no clue how helping a polisario criminal is going to bring prosperity to my country.
I feel sad for those people. I believe many of them would like to come to Europe to live their life but at the same time question of European's security arises. We cannot forget of many problems connected with imigration - mainly the illegal one. Im not saying every immigrant is bad.
@Aghilas I may be Spanish but the decolonisation committee isn't and don't consider that Spain has any colony. The ones who has a problem with colonies are the UK with 10 territories and USA with 3.
They wanna get to Europe, but what they can give us back, what useful skills or education they have, what jobs are they able to find? There is not enough jobs for local people who struggle to find anything or are working for very low salaries. Those people should fix their own countries. Why actually we have in Europe legal procedures to get into, maybe we should open borders for everyone o.O - can you imagine what a mess it would make?
Yes, aside from historical factors Europe is what it's because people are more educated than those in Africa. But once Africans go to Europe then it becomes a new Africa. Because what makes a place nice are the people who live on it
Well. Europe has millions of open jobs. The thing is that you almost always need something like a college degree to be able to apply and most of these regugees don‘t have such a degree.
I get your point, but you can’t blame them from trying. If you were starving on the street would you steal that loaf of bread to stay alive or would you say well I don’t think I have the right to steal.(metaphor)
It is not EU's responsibility to provide refuge to all those fleeing from wars and government incompetence. At the same time, I seriously hope those refugees are able to gain stability in their lives. It's really a pick your poison scenario.
the british and the french caused alot of unrest in the middle east and africa after they let go of their colonies, it is THEIR fault these countries are struggling, and should take responsibilities
@@ori6990 I don't agree, those brutal unrest and struggles were caused by the callous decisions of the upper class in France and Britain fifty to hundreds of years ago. You cannot fault everyday people of Europe to pay for their mistakes.
It wasn't the EU's right or responsibility to bomb and invade foreign lands causing undue harm to the people, political structure, and infrastructure while usurping control over their resources, causing those people to have the need to flee their lands in order to avoid becoming victims of those catastrophic atrocities... But the EU and the Wester managed to invade their borders in order to do those things. Their lives were relatively stable and they were willing and more than able to stay within their borders before you all obliterated their reality. Perhaps the EU and the West should have thought about borders and rights before invading those of other nations. Since they didn't, and they are responsible for creating the situations that are causing people to flee home and to head for EU and Western borders. You made this bed, time to lay in it and pray that the strangers entering into your lands are kinder than you were entering into theirs!
nordinator89 it is the obligation of their home country to provide these people with foods and jobs, not spain nor morocco. The one violating human rights are the subsaharan countries.
+John Daly i think it's obvious at this point it's not going to happen soon, and people are attempting to do what's best for themselves. People are twisting the words "illegal" to make the people seem bad. Give or take some are, just like the citizens already inside the country. Don't pretend to believe citizens are on some magical higher standard because they were born there. Any smart person at this point understanding the situation flees, and fixes what they can later on
Never, in my whole long life have I seen so many prospective civil engineers, architects, surgeons, barristers and politicians living in a single forest camp.
There's 17% unemployment rate in Spain, so they won't find work here either. Also, if u realize, there's just young men. There's a 36% young unemployment rate.
L O So~ accurate... actually nah :/ They come here, find that it is better than were they used to live but not what they were told back in those countries and end up working as low-paying employees, selling things on the streets and beaches or simply unemployed. The unemployment rate for young people here in Spain deviates between a 35% and a 50%, even though specialiced work force are currently migrating to eastern Europe,US, Canada or in fewer cases South America and Asia. You see, the oportunities to a sub-saharian person to come here and get a job is possible, but quite low (of course the employeer can take advantage that they need the money to under-pay him/her or make him work more hours than allowed) Maybe in a few years when the economy recovers and we get to need low skilled workers (without a decree, things like that) they will have it easier like back in early 2000
blackice214 Yup. They're all speaking French too. They'll be in Spain for 5 minutes before they get paperwork, and bail to England, France, or perhaps Germany.
Yeah I don't really understand they will most likely live in extreme poverty? I don't think they can get help from the government without papers too right?
@@Nico-ig1mr Extreme poverty in Europe isn't the same extreme poverty in Africa. Besides, at least they have a chance here. A chance to change their lifes.
@@M-Maxentius economic? Overhere in Belgium there are more immigrants that comes to belgium to steal money of the government than making their own business 😂
@@arthur7814 yeah i mean that they are " economic" immigrants, they come only to live off the state without giving anything back in return, its same here in sweden. they get free apartments and money . its terrible
This video would be great aside from one glaring omission: motive. None of this makes any sense unless you discuss why these migrants are so desperate to get to Europe, and why staying in Morocco is not an option. Honestly, without that missing puzzle piece this whole episode feels like it's imposing a narrative at the end.
ohmanger but is there Boko Haram menace in Morocco? I want to know if Morocco is providing help to these migrants so that they don't have to cross over to Europe.
I don't think this issue is all black and white. You can't blame Spain for fortifying their borders with all the recent violence within Europe. Spanish government has its duty to protect its citizens and regulate illegal immigrants.
Spain is failing at even keeping its own country together. They have a massive crisis of corruption, unemployment (especially youth unemployment), a rigged educational system and many people who want their regions to be autonomous. I'm not saying they should let in all immigrants, but I disagree with the statement that the Spanish government is just protecting Spanish citizens, because it fails SO HARD at treating them right.
i'am a moroccan and the violence made by the white are at least 10 time more than the affrican so don't say that when they get there they will kill and steal and .... , if you'r country is in war and its getting worst every day why can't you live in a better place ?
I'm not saying that all the immigrants who enter other nations are involved with crime. I'm saying that Spain has a right and sovereignty to fortify its borders and regulate illegal immigrants. Still, I agree that use of violence currently taking place at the borders is unacceptable.
Hard Work now wait, let's think for a second. You said that Spain is failing right. Now WHAT if THOSE IMMIGRANTS enter spain ILLEGALLY with no permission. Doesn't just add more work to the already failing Spain ?
Easy.. you will have near 100 dead people. The US Military have been ordered to shoot on sight if they deem it necessary and they will if they see 100 people storming.
What needs to happen is for Africa to develop into a better place so that Africans can find a life there instead of taking the risk to go to Europe and probably ruining their lives there.
@@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel4638 I've been living in the west for a while and i don't envy you, but double negative in english results in a positive which means that comment above can be literally translated into: "i want more immigrants" its basic grammar. You can blame Angela Merkel for your current immigration problems, not poles. We are the smart ones.
@@bartpeter27 i'm norwegian and no not really, just really uncultural and unaccepting. But i also think it's smart. But i do like you polish painters over here tho. Doing good for our country,
She didnt say that! She made the point that unless there is a war people dont need protection in their life? Shes pointing out that dangers come in many forms not just war..Disease..Famine..Human Rights abuses..
As a Spaniard i feel a little deceived because you almost didn't talk about Melilla itself. As it has always been a military city the extreme right wing is very present there. They even have a statue of Franco ( Spain's 20th century dictator and Hitler's ally for a while). This helps to create a hostility environment for all the immigrants that get into Melilla and complicates the situation even more.
But yeah. We need soldiers to be used against invaders. No ones forcing you to cross the border. You wont let someone in your house without throwing atleast 1 punch right?
They're not merciless at all because these migrants actually have been given the right to get Moroccan citizenship and work in Morocco instead they refuse and theyre only goal is to go for Europe as they think it's some promised land where moneys found on the floor. they're also a concern for bush fires as moroccan forests are fairly drought out also the excessive ammount of filth and plastic rubble they leave around is something we have to deal with too. Most of these ''subsaharan african'' migrants are econmical refugees and the part where he says it's about his skin color is not true as alot of Moroccans are known to have dark skin colors aswell especially from Marrakech or the Sahara desert.
I love how Vox and other "PC" organizations/news outlets don't say "illegal immigration," and also make it seem if a country has a strict border policy they're the bad guy.
I see so many comments that Spain should return this land to the Africans. SPAIN OWNS THIS LAND FOR 600 YEARS. It’s not like they conquered it last week lol
To be fair, you can use the same argument to say that britain should own india during the independance movement because it was ruled for hundreds of years by the british.
Thomy Fun British still only “owned” India for 200 years (not 600). And you really can’t compare India with this small city lol. And the people speak Spanish so... Really don’t see a point why should Spain give their territory to anyone.
@@blackappleslo So before 600 years, when at that time Arabs ruled parts of France, Italy and whole of Spain for the {last} 781 years!, You really don’t see a point why should Arabs give all that territory back!?
If you have a water leak in your house: the first thing you do is not getting out the mop and cleaning up the mess. The first thing to do is shut off the source of the water..
Spain isn't responsible for accepting these people. Spain had no real Sub-Saharan colonies and weren't responsible for their situation. But 50-60 years in, African governments needs to be accountable for failing to provide for their people.
They’re not responsible, but they are assisting in a border force that has no problem killing people trying to cross. Crossing a border should result in detainment, not being hit with a wooden stick with a nail. I think Spain should allow refugees to cross through the country. Possibly not take them in because Spain isn’t rich. I wish more stayed so they could try improve their countries, but it’s a situation neither you or I will fully understand. You’re lucky you’ve not had to escape a war torn country, travelling through one of the deadliest deserts and borders in the world just for a taste of freedom.
@@cordeliathomas8787 they do have problems killing them. Every time someone dies, even with no involvement of the border patrols, theres calls for resignations in the government, and punishments imposed around
UPROAR 91 it isnt though because compared to african populations these are way smaller and africa’s native population is the fastest growing in the world.
UPROAR 91 erhm...no that is definitely not the problem when Europeans migrate to Africa they create jobs and boost the economy when African migrate to Europe they create crime
I used to live there. Melilla has been linked to whatever power dominated the iberian peninsula (Phoenicians, csrthaginians, romans, visigoths, arabs, spain) for thousands of years. It’s not like spain “conquered” it in the XVI century.
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- Johnny
Vox how this comment is 10h old when this video just came up
Thank you so much for this amazing series!
Randomizer22 TheStudentLocal Thanks for explaination
I want season 2 already!
Vox I thought you would explore india -Pakistan border too
I’m confused why people seem to think it’s wrong to have borders that are protected
Kane Fritsch liberals and their bleeding hearts
I mean even if I lived next to a country full of Mennonite pacifists I would want someone in the job checking passports and asking a couple questions.
Nobody thinks that. We do think we should take responsibility for the welfare of other peoples than our own, should protect them if they need protection from their own countries. So yes, borders should be guarded, but those fleeing prosecution, disease, or severe economic hardship deserve our help. It's not their fault they were born where they were born.
Toon Holman there is people that protest for no borders at all I’m not saying you do or everyone does but there is a pretty large number of Americans that do I to think we should help people but we have a lot of our own that need help first and if they come they should have to do it legally and go threw the screenings and legal borders crossings
Toon Holman it’s not our fault either why should they use our benefits for their problems
That fence jumping scene looks like World War Z in action.
Ikr.
@@bradch9813 Yea,zombies who were under complete colonialism by Europeans for decades.Had their natural resources stolen.Yea,those kind of zombies.
@@dreamingfustilarian282 When was the last colony relinquished?
it will only get worse.
@@IgnacioGlezCllo Last African Colony - As late as 1993 Asia - 1960 Americas - 1983.And what did you state by asking me that exactly?
*Refugees find a new secret outpost*
Vox guy:So this is their new territory
Ikr
US has a secret underground base.*
Vox: Here is a US secret underground base
US: what the??
@@persimmon93 lol
It's good we have that info so now Morocco can destroy their new camp. Hopefully they leave this time.
😂😂😂
Who is here after fights broke out in Ceuta?
There's a city in Thailand called Chiang Mai.
i see nothing wrong with Spain, the wrong thing is the corrupted governments in those African countries. Something must be done to improve African countries.
@The Snow Nigro i don't think so, many european countries benefit from those wars, they profit of corruption, just like USA in many hispanic countries
@@herra1519 canaries and ceuta an Melilla are not in Morrocan land
@@herra1519 they are in North Africa near Morocco but no Morocco
@@herra1519 is NEAR Morocco NOT Morocco, Morrocan IS NOT the only country in North Africa
@@herra1519 we will take it back, don't worry, we will rather fight them economically, when they claim Gibraltar from great britain we will claim mellila and ceuta
I feel like a majority of the comments are not the sentiment that VOX was expecting....
It's funny, because the far-right ultraconservative party in Spain is also called Vox. What a coincidence. (Vox is also a book publisher, here in Spain I have seen books under that publishing house, for example, it is said that their Spanish-Latin dictionary is the best)
As human beings with sufficient resources we ought to help others. This comment section is full of pro brexit right wing bots and people. The undecided voter now gets the final vote on their opinion from such unreliable and uninformed opinions of the internet.
Moreover the language of the posts is echoed in many others, this is quite fishy, lots of world war Z references.....
@@kieranmctague6231 we ought to help others but this is not the way. If their countries don't evolve they'll just keep coming, we need a better long term solution than letting inmigrants in.
David Gil Thank you! I have been struggling to find people who think there’s no possible middle point. Either leave them alone or let them flood in.
This is by far the best series vox has ever done. Please make a part 7 in the future. I know this took lots of time and money to make. But it truly has opened my eyes to how complex borders are, and the people they separate.
I am 100% the same opinion. Very good job Vox
hes, as far as i know, uploading once a week. topics: boarders arround the world. what a great job he has and what creativity and message he builts into this.
he said the series is done :(
Perhaps they could start a different series about another geographic, political and cultural topic.
Anonymous Vlogger no it's not. Question who gets to make the borders in the first place. Vox is not.
Thank you for this video! I'm Moroccan and I do believe that this subject doesn't get the attention it deserves. Today numerous migrants abandoned the idea of crossing the borders to Europe and decided to settle down in Morocco as the country is experiencing a steady growth. In 2013, Morocco has launched a new migration policy to facilitate the naturalization of migrants and help them settle down in the country. However, since 2013, 2 of the 3 main reforms haven't been adopted yet and are still considered as Law projects ...furthermore my country still didn't agree on a readmission agreement with the EU commission, because Moroccan politicians don't want to be legally bound to readmit migrants from other countries. Lastly, this migration crisis is used by Moroccan authorities as a trump card to press on the Spanish authorities and the EU for settling down the Sahara conflict with Algeria and get more funds from the EU.
I'm here after you know (☞^o^) ☞
Well said!
Couldn't of said it better myself
they still go though for a reason nobody likes morroco as much as spain
@@Mark-Wilson only few of them actually stay in Spain though and Spaniards themselves are leaving Spain.
But why do they have to risk death going to Europe? There are many neighboring nations that would likely take them in and that aren't in conflict. Most of them aren't fleeing from war but rather are economic migrants.
then why don't they go to those other neighboring nations?
+Isais Madrid Madrid Because the quality of living is much higher in Europe, they take advantage of government aid, and then get to enjoy a society neither them nor their ancestors had any part in building.
farewell, i mean welfare
Gayvon Fartin Black Moors taught you people how to wash your ass STFU, we started civilization
Scary Bird go live where they do. Your puny ass wont survive an hour. These guys arent all bad just desperate.
As a moroccan I can verify that
That place has some really cheap Pringles
How cheap can I bring 6 suit cases of it. I'm joking I already have enough chips. This is just my snack break.
Morocco is a beautiful country. I want to visit Marakesh and Cassablanca. I will be going soon.
@@hnys7976 You're welcome in Morocco, there is another cities like 'Fez' and The blue city 'Chefchaouen', search for it ,you gonna like it .
@@Descart-lw1nu Yes. I will visit. All of my friends who have gone have really enjoyed Morocco❤.
@@hnys7976 You must be joking
It's not a piece of Europe. It's a piece of the European Union.
blazebluebass it's europe
THANK YOU. I came here to post this. With this logic, St. Pierre and Miquelon are also Europe... which is clearly not the case. This story is about territory of a European country in Africa.
It's foremost a piece of Spain.
blazebluebass but its not as flashy
blazebluebass it's in Africa
I think we've shed light to every corner regarding illegal immigration, but not enough light to the reason what drove them to force themselves into the continent in the first place.
I agree with you 100% because the thing behind the thing is the real thing. For the umpteenth time, let the Europeans stop stealing Africa's resources or sending weapons of mass destruction that cause wars in Africa or at the very least let the West stop meddling in the affairs of African countries. The day that the West stops all that is the day the Africans will stop climbing over those fences.
Exactly
Exploitation of the welfare
They want everything given to them for free, that's why they choose Europe
Milking western european countries for welfare and free healthcare while not working at all. 40% of immigrants in France do not work but have welfare.
When did it become "wrong" to protect your borders
Nowadays apparently
Must be nice to live a privilege life where you don’t have problems like other countries
When you colonize them destroy their civillian economy and put a resource extraction based economy and make them unable to leave in their land.
Well maybe because the border is in wrong continent? Ever thought of that?🤨
@@historiand9473 Spain didn't colonize these countries.
Currently Spain has one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe, as well as a deficit problem in its budget. It is literally impossible to grant inmigrants good living conditions. Most of them end up involved in ilegal activities such as drug trafficking. As we can see in the video, the ones who try to jump the fence belong to the young part of the population; by fleeing their homeland in search of a better life they end up compromising their own country's future.
I would also remark that most of these immigrants use Spain as a way to go to France or England.
Here we can't deal with Spanish people without a job, so imagine how it would be with immigrants. First of all, we have to solve all our problems(mass corruption, debt,unemployment, etc etc)then, just then, and maybe, we could help those poor people. But it would be a better solution to solve the problems they have in their contries.
A great comment. Someone who finally understands the whole situation, and doesn't resort to insulting and being racist. Someone who considers all of the facts. As said already, this deserves to be much higher up in the comments.
you forgot their final destination (Germoney)
danicano997 they don't stay in Spain most of them try to move to France as fast as possible
Trump: write that down write that down
Sebastian David Cuni more like Mexico needs to secure the border
Sebastian David Cuni we ain’t helping nobody we be doing it for the money we get from Europe for protecting the border 😂
@@theodoreroosevelt4260 Why secure it its Americas fault anyway that they are trying to get to europe
Underrated
@@Jaylio not our fault you guys want drugs
Anyone comes back to this video after what happened to Spain the past few days? ☝🏼
What happened?
@@AlfaGiuliaQV Morocco opened the border abd Spain got stormed.
Yesss
@@eukarya_ yooo for real? Any source?
As African, I blamed our leaders for not helping out young people after their studies
If they did no one would care abt eu
Yeah I heard Africa is beautiful now, other Africans need to know that.
@ Sorry dude but thats such an ignorance. Apparently what CIA's did was just sitting in office minding their own country business
@Ankur Garg iq is even not real
@P M noones agreeing with the migration, stoo making problems. he just said he blames the african government not eu countries
Learn from them, use this knowledge for Area 51
They can’t stop all of us
i wasn't expecting this comment here, LOL
@@001kristinesono duh doy of course it's a joke
Well it started as a joke, but seems many are into it. It is now a reality; good luck to those who go, and have a great party.
Char H. Relax lol, the most they can do is just meet up and chill with the others in the outskirts of the base
Without development in Africa, this will never stops.
Africa train subway and light rails is way more cleaner than any American train station
@@demarkish9098 we are talking about economical development. with the Afrikan population exploding. Afrikan money will simply be worth nothing.
this will lead to more violence.
Christophe Africa is rising 💪🏿
I like the positivity of this guy lol
There was development in Africa but when they got their independence they reverted.
I'm from Melilla. You also reminded of its location because half of its population is Spanish of Moroccan origin. Also it's the secon most Modernist city in Spain. In recent events, Morocco is using people who are in a desperate and vulnerable situation as a "weapon" against Spain because of a diplomatic crisis, so sad. Also, EU dissapears in these crisis....
La UE defiende a España.
Are they muslim
I totally agree as a Moroccan, it's bad for us and for them and for Spain.
@@luismiguelgarcia-morato8659 No. La UE defende sus intereses. Te aconsejo que recapacites sobre quién estaría con nosotros en una crisis. Te aseguro de antemano que USA y Francia no
@@saheb-jg9nj nope
What I don't understand - and this sounds heartless but I mean it in good faith - is why they can't just stay in Morocco? Since they're not in danger of being deported and there's no war over there, why do they need to get to Spain?And yeah sure, for a better life I understand that, but in that case why does it matter if they're coming from a war torn country or a peaceful but dirt poor country?It just doesn't make sense to me.
I think this is a good argument to make. I have often wondered that as well. I don't want to diminish the plight of these people - but is there something stopping them from working in Morocco?
Also globally - I think we need to end the sham of "Work permission" -- why should anybody decide if a person is allowed to work - if they are qualified for a job - they should just get it!
Morocco simply can't deal with the massive influx of immigrants, either. What happens right now is that they receive large aid packages from Europe of all sorts - money to build and maintain the fences, to train police, to adopt new technologies, to feed the Sub-Saharan immigrants, etc. This means that Morocco can employ more of their people and keep the Sub-Saharans moderately fed, but only as long as the EU sees a value in doing so.
Basically, if Morocco gives these people any sort of legal recognition, the country would implode - there'd suddenly be thousands of homeless, unemployed Sub-Saharans that instead of being in a limbo, would become Morocco's problem. And then, the EU could easily wash their hands and leave them stranded with this massive problem. Europe doesn't want them, and Morocco only wants them as long as they're undocumented and trying to cross over.
I live in morocco,and the thing is,a lot of them chose to stay here,those who really just want peace and to look for a job to provide for their famillies do stay,those you see in the video are just chasing the eu dream,what Briss said is also true ,there are some benefits that they can get in Europe that they cant get here..
Maybe the youth unemployment rate of 20% might be a hint why Moroccans want to leave their country...or the extremely tense situation of the West Saharan conflict. All just thoughts.
It's a lower youth unemployment rate than Spain, though.
VOX,... give this man a raise and 5 more seasons of BORDERS. This series is AWESOME.
Agreed
backstabher infinity
AGRRED.
YASSS WE NEED MORE
You must have a lot of endurance to be able to cross the Sahara, cross that boarder, cross the Mediterranean sea into Europe, all while avoiding capture.
It's easier when a european NGO finances all of your transportation with the promise that once you get into europe you work on THEIR plantation.
French judt arm them,force them to protect their mines,then send to eu
@@mike4402 what?
@@mike4402 What madness are you babbling about?
@@mike4402 touch grass and get help
Me: Mom can we go to Spain
Mom: We have Spain at home
Spain at home:
that joke doesnt make really sense.
Doesn't make sense
Guys in other words, Spain is in Africa, not in its "rightful continent" 😂😂😂😂
The home joke always gets me
@@oblivion2755 Spain owns land in Morocco it does
"it won't stop them from coming"
looks like it's stopping them pretty well to me
@Imagine - Life hope you guys plug the hole soon before you all drown
Imagine - Life que esta pasando? Tú crees que en algún momento sean tantos que no se pueda controlar? Me interesa mucho ese tema.
@Thomas Shelby Leader of the Peaky Fookin Blinders
It was conquered centuries ago if Morroco wants it we can fight for it again let's see how far the Morrocans get 😁
@Ricky
For sure it's Part of Spain if Morroco wants it we can fight for it I'm sure Morroco would win a war with Spain 😉
@Thomas Shelby Leader of the Peaky Fookin Blinders HAHA, wrong.
Vox guy: Moroccan military are destroying these people houses.
Camera man shows plastic tents in a polluted Forrest
baguette
And what do you think happens to the plastic thrown out in western countries. Most of it goes to landfills anyway or burnt. It’s not any better
Houses !!!!!! Since when !!!!!!!
Morpcco helpping them but they prefer to do the mess as usual
@@Darl-ur3uq my neighborhood in Morocco south sahara is half sub africans today, they work and pay bills like any of us and they hard workers except for those who use Morocco as cross land to Europe and destroy lands steal to survive so they can sink in the mideterinian and Morocco is the one to blame for those few immigrants
StickyFingerz no it doesn’t make it right. But what are they supposed to do lol carry it over the walls and throw it in the garbage. These people are running for there life I’m sure they dgaf about plastic
They blame racism, but don't tell you that the migrants seen climbing fences can also apply for asylum at the border just like the Syrian refugees. The reason they don't is because either they don't want to go through the process and wait, and just want land feet at one of the refugee centers and then they can stay, or because they know they will be denied, as they aren't from a war torn country, aren't being oppressed etc
That's not true for everyone whatsoever
I suggest you watch 9:00 in the video.
Did you not watch the video? Did you not hear the educated comments?
"Europe's most fortified border is in Africa." Thumbnail of a ton of people climbing.
Lol
BAHAHA
@easter worshipper what do u mean "people"
Yes it shows then climbing that's literally the point why it's fortified and protected
Now the redditards will be going after me
@@retsreinyrelgeinthrelaveri1456 nah
Spain is just protecting their own border and I think that's completely justified. If someone were trying to break into my home, I would do whatever it takes to protect my property.
@@candidnews3611 Not Spain's case.
@Mr. poor How could Spain have stolen land from Morocco before Morocco even existed?
@@jaimethespaniard do you know when they took it though?
I agree that Ceuta and Melilla should be handed over to Morocco. But in the meantime, borders must be protected.
Dude, that's not your home. That's like taking over my house, leaving but still claiming a room and then beating my children when they try to enter said room, which shouldn't even have been yours in the first place!
Mass immigration is just a short term solution for the immigrants, with terrible consequences for Europe. Without development in Africa, this will keep on going forever. Neo colonialism and corruption is the problem, and as soon as those two things are gone, protected borders won't be as necessary.
ANDY LUMEH© Ministries, Evangelist. My Father's Kingdom, Chelsea Black Church, London Human existence is just a tug of war between different civilizations and tribes for territory, resources, and security that will ensure their survival. In this struggle, there is war and occupation against those civilizations and tribes. Because of this reality, everything that happens is fair. It’s fair that the Subsaharan Africans are trying to go to the same Europe that colonized them, and it’s also fair that the Europeans who colonized them want to keep them out.
Yea go explain that to someone who doesnt have shir to eat
What about fundamentalist cultures like Islam and Christianity where having 4-5 children is a good idea?
@ANDY LUMEH© Ministries, Evangelist. My Father's Kingdom, Chelsea Black Church, London Yeah no that is entirely not what happened.
@@augustinajackson3774 Nope, that's a twisted view of Colonialism.
After a little Google search:
“Several studies have shown that most African migrations are not directed towards Europe, but towards other African countries (Schoumaker et al., 2015; Sander & Maimbo, 2003) and that those moving out of Africa do not only move to Europe but also to the Gulf countries and the Americas (Bakewell & De Haas, 2007).”
“Contradicting common idea that African emigration is essentially about irregular movement, previous research has suggested that most Africans migrate out of the continent in possession of valid passports, visas and other travel documentation (cf. Schoorl et al. 2000, Heering, Esveldt, Groenewold, van der Erf, Bosch, de Valk, and de Bruijn, 2000). More generally, recent scholarship has started to question the implicit assumption that African migration is ‘exceptional’ and essentially different from migration elsewhere. More and more micro-evidence emerges indicating that most Africans migrate for family, work or study (Schoumaker et al., 2015) (Bakewell & Jόnsson, 2011), as is the case in other world regions.”
I always do a little Google search for my own sanity after watching western news/documentaries these days.
micro-evidence?
That doesn't sound very compelling my friend
Your evidence is almost 3 decades old. Bold of you to assume that these studies would be relevant today:D
It is a universally understood right of sovereign nations to defend their own borders.
Like one would think grammar/spelling is universally understood?
Correction for grammar/spelling
It is a universally understood right of sovereign nations to defend their own boarders.
Umm, he didn't mess up too bad.
You did though.
Borders*
Tobi: the spelling police? Really? I’m sure you’ve never been typing /commenting on your phone and misspelled anything. 🖕🏻😂
jakub c. All fair points, but the solution is for them to stay at home and improve their own countries through their own labour. If they did that, they would see their quality of life improve. Would it be easy? No, but it’s better for their whole country and peoples if they stay and give it a go.
*Vox exposes where the refugee's new camp is*
refugees: can you stop telling people our secrets?
Good reporting lol
It is implied it is common knowledge to the authorities.
@@jamesboulger8705 and straight out said
The guards already know it. Im not sure if your listening
Ah yes. As a Spaniard, I immediately knew what this video was gonna be about
Same kid
@bigricester our wall was made first and what the heck did you just wrote, check your grammar
Same here
Yeah I knew it, now we are the bad guys
DIEGO ROSENDO PÉREZ we always are the bad guys
Spain is right in protecting their borders
With bats that have nails through it?
@@NavroZ10 yes
@@NavroZ10 yes
@@NavroZ10 Yes.
@@NavroZ10 yes
so if they touch EU soil while crossing illegally they`re entitled to apply for asylums? who made this laws? lol
Yes... that is the European Union law but this does not determine if they are free. They are held in camps in Europe or elsewhere until they are approved. People are in camps from years, some are lucky and less. It depends on the countries intake.
the laws were written by globalists who believe in 'no borders' and no national soveriegnty
The laws were written by people who had to seek refuge whenthey were targeted because they were jews or who fled the wars in europe. Because of this they put laws in place that made sure others would find refuge aswell when they were in a similar position...
Decent people wrote them.
Do you know what asylum means?
How to make a border fence
1. Metal
2. Barbed wire
3. DUGHOLES
4. Barbed wire
5. Barbed wire
5. Barbed wire
6. Barbed wire
I can't believe you forgot to mention barbed wire. Go back to school
Once u start making it like D-Day then u got a good defense wall. UnleSs america and uk comes around
Gotta get those metal hedgehogs, 50 feet tall fences, and electric fences. And also, 30x the barbed wire they already have.
@@HeliosSoI sorry m8
@noziethi radon i'm sorry...
I see videos like these and i always remember how lucky i am.
Jonathan Shelton I know they just don’t know how to cross legally
@@spaky1954 no they can't, in that situation
Spaky everyone knows, its just that crossing legally requires years of hard work
I think that what a lot of people fail to realize it’s that both cities do not feel Moroccan nor do they want to leave Morocco. In the 18th century, Gibraltar was conquered by the British and since then it’s been British. They do not feel Spanish, they don’t wanna be Spanish. Ceuta was conquered by the Portuguese back in 1415 and had been a very turbulent area since forever. One of the things about being strategically important is that you’ll change hands a lot through history. Essentially it had been a “Moroccan” (as in controlled by what is today Modern-day Morocco) city for (non-consecutively) 200 years, but if we take the amount of time it was hold by the Visigoths of Spain and the different Spanish Taifas, it gets to roughly the same amount. Finally, if we take the actual time it’s been under Spain herself, it’s around 382 years, plus the time it was under Portugal’s and Iberian’s (former+latter) influence.
Melilla was actually (as a city) under Moroccan influence by quite more time, little over 300 years. Since then, by Spain herself for 500+ years. It doesn’t matter whhere they are, but rather what their inhabitants feel like.
Well spain and portugal were under morocco for more than 700 years and we are not claiming the whole land
@@uzumaki2466 They…weren’t? The Mozarabics were under morrocan rule for like, 200 years?
@@uzumaki2466 Only in Moroccan fantasies did Morocco exist before the 20th century almost like claiming Roman Hispania was Spain. Anyhow Ceuta and Melilla are not yours and never will be and even the UN does not consider these lands colonies unlike the situation with the Saharahui people .
@@uzumaki2466 only Granada
@@dariomartinez459 Get ready for madrid to become the new kinshasa
That's some world war z stuff right there.
And they seem to have the same mentality as the zombies. Poor Europe.
I am Spanish and the borders in Melilla and Ceuta have always been a problem. The current situation is wrong because so many africans are suffering, but you cant simply open the borders of Europe to everyone who wants to enter. It is a very complex situation because it not only depends on Spain's interests but also on all the other nations of the EU. The only solution i can think of is to discourage people from illegally crossing the border and promote more legal asylum policies. But without the collaboration of the EU that is impossible.
the only good reply
SPain has to decolonize Sebta and Mellilia and they havec to recognize Moroccan Sahara. End of probleM.
Why you have borders in Morocco
@@freewal first, Ceuta and Melilla are not colonies, they are autonomous cities with representation in the Spanish Congress and second, Morocco has no justified rights over the Sahara area, they invaded it and annexed it without doing a referendum in there. Get your facts straight please.
Why UK left the EU lol,
You basically can’t even rule your own country if you’re in the EU. Sorta Garbage
Ah I'm sure the comments will remain civil...
Yeah, about that....
Sorry.
.
I think you deserve a like just cuz its the only normal comment
Salokin, We can hope...
Curseword
As a European I can say Trumps wall is a beginner level
stay in your own country and make it better rather than being unemployed here and hated
Well if European ancestors didn't steal everything from Africa, Maybe the situation would have been very different.
Anass Talai it wasn’t just Europeans. In fact it was mostly Arabs, they ran the trade routes and the slave trade.
many would argue that it would be a worse place than it is today... south africa is not safe, zimbabwe is becoming poor.
Yeah classic west, let's blame Arabs. You mean Arabs begged the west to sell them slaves ? wasn't it Europeans who paid for it and asked for it. It's exactly the same situation as Spain Morocco borders. Europe pays Morocco to do its dirty work for them. (Almost like let's build a wall and make Mexico pay for it).
Even if Europeans slaved Africans, it's not a reason why Africa is poor. Europe faced in its history extremely high dangerous from antique to modern. Persians, Huns, Mongols, Black death, inner wars like 30 years war, I and II world war... Cold war... Not only Africans faced their troubles, Europeans had faced perhaps much more terrible events than Africans slavery and exploitation. The difference is in the mentality between Africans and Europeans. Europe always tries to rebuild itself, and strive for the future, when Africans are sitting on their asses. Compare Europe to Africa before slavery. You will see that Europeans aren't the reason of poverty in Africa.
The problem is that these people aren't refugees, they are economical immigrants.
Just like Americans?
Anil Palan no economical migrants don’t assimilate
Anil Palan What? no... tf
Europeans came to America for Imperial reasons. To expand their land and wealth that's why the natives in the Americas were massacred. It was pure imperialism.
Melly Arvelo natives were a conquered people. No technology, no infrastructure, they lost.
It's Spain's democratic right to not let them in.
And Morroco's democratic right to let them crossing.
They are not Moroccans, they are subsaharans, they cross north african countries to get to Europe. let me guess. you are american? LoL. thats why your comment show how ignorant about the world you are.
Tomy Ray Spain is a shithole, just take a look at your countries economy and stability that will only worsen as time goes on with your feminist socialist government, not to mention how much worse it will get with the upcoming civil war(s)
Africa is much worse than Spain obviously, but why compare a somewhat first world country to third world? Most of the immigrants from Africa go to Spain not to stay in Spain but to get to other places in Europe such as France Denmark Sweden ETC
Tomy Ray just thanks to the EU. Before joining the EU Spain was a shithole. Spain is more like Greece (actually Greece was better before joining the EU) or any other eastern european country in the EU. Not all countries benefited from the EU, such as Italy and it all because of those poor countries like Spain, who joined.
Tomy Ray I said before joining the EU. I live in Italy. Like 20 years ago there were no unemployment issues, now the situation is very bad. If you lose your job it might take you a year or more to find a new one and as I always knew Italy is far more richer than Spain. So if Italy is ruined, I am trying to imagine how is the situation in Spain. And I said Spanish was a shithole before joining the EU not now. Some countries benefit from joining the EU, others get worse, the case of Italy! Also a lot of spaniards (polish and italians as well) migrated to the UK and that’s one of the reasons brexit is happening. If it is a rich country to live in, nobody would have left for UK. There are some spaniards migrants in Morocco too and no they’re not bringing jobs, they are actually taking jobs from locals. Those who bring jobs are mostly italians and french.
Make it even more fortified.
Morocco is bribing Spain, not helping.
By doing what? Adding a lava moat?
@Stephen Unnecessarily brutal
No they are paying for a service, how is that bribing?? You think it's free to protect that border, you think it costs nothing to put that fence up, you think it's free to pay the soldiers and police to protect that border. Morocco aren't spending their dime to do something Spain has asked them to do.
its kinda like the Central America/Mexico/US Border. Spain is paying Morocco to keep Africans out. Just like America is paying Mexico to keep Central Americans out
José Haber and who is paying who to keep the Mexicans out?
Mark Redfield Canada is paying America to keep the Mexicans out and Santa in the North Pole is paying Canada to keep the Americans out
José Haber NOT ALL africans just the ones from morocco which i’m only one country out of so many.
America is literally the continent tho
I kinda feel like Europe and Moroccan are being portrait In a bad light here. Here’s just a quick reminder that Europe and Morocco are not the bad guys.
Exactly
Exactly
That's Vox for you...
When you say that Europe and Morocco are not "the" bad guys it sounds like you think the refugees and asylum seekers are the bad guys. Do you have no sympathy for the guy who said that he was fleeing boko haram, the jihadi terrorist organization that among various other crimes against humanity, kidnaps, trains and kills children? These people are being killed for crossing a border unlawfully, what would it take for you to risk your life to cross a border? If you were plopped down in sub-saharan africa without any papers or money and being persecuted, would you try to escape persecution or get somewhere where you believe you can prosper?
Europe and Morocco are exactly the bad guys! The whole reason these desperate people are willing to risk their lives to cross the border is because making the 100m dash to the "immigration center" on the other side means safety. Europe and Morocco's policies created this mess. Why is the dude who got beat by a nail bat and stabbed in the neck still trying to find a way in? The whole situation feels like a video game, like a life-or-death level of Super Mario, and it all started because of boko haram and other terrorist groups started making life miserable for the people. Stop the wars, and you stop the migration crisis.
If Europe and Morocco really wanted to stop the problem, why doesn't Spain just give Melilla back to Morocco and treat it like any other Moroccan city? Or remove the immigration center safe haven, which also removes the incentive for people to jump the death wall. Instead, they spend vast resources on building and reinforcing a silly wall, using police to bully the desperate people, and using short-term fixes like shipping them to far away cities. None of these tactics really address the underlying problem
We should have brought them with us when we stormed area 51
Chuck Norris if you keep acting like that I would’ve of done the same thing
Underrated comment
Nah bro, bring the NK defectors they are real pros at that
@Chuck Norris that's so mean and insensitive
@Chuck Norris so everybody living in poverty will steal your bags?
Edit: Gucci bags? Or they'll smash your Lamborghini window to beg for food? Or they'll pick pocket your Apple Card? Hmm?
This is an affront to my parents who had to come to America the long and legal way. Jumping the border and immediately getting rights is ridiculous.
The problem is that Spain cannot absorb all the thousands of people coming from the African continent and people from other countries as well. It would be great, but unluckily, it is not possible for the moment being. It would be like pretending that Texas would do the same with all the South American people going there. This is not a continent, but a small country.
So then leave the African continent???
@@davidtirado818 Sheesh thats a dangerous mentality. And you would need a plan for those people.
@@davidtirado818 not really, their contribution to the economy would be minimal and they're pay wouldn't be enough to solve the problem. Currently Spain has not a sufficient amount of low skill labour demand. Most of these jobs would go towards construction which doesn't have that much of a demand. In this case, immigrants with no or very low education will cause more problems than they'll solve.
@@davidtirado818 if you cut the helps yes but although that i know that the piramid is looking bad without the "relevo generacional" you cant just let in that much people and keep expending money on them at the same rate, if all where allowed to cross spain couldnt allow to mantain the help they gives them meaning that theyr conditions for the ones that cross are going to be way worse than now
South Americans? Lol yeah im south america and texas share a border
I was there in the Army for 3 years, many times protecting the border (Spanish side)
killed anyone?
@@mrspoon1503 No, but the Moroccans on the other side did once in a while
@@marcok5412 Did he dab on the corpse?
Thank you for your service protecting Europe
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Why don’t these refugees try and build a life for themselves in Morocco, wouldn’t it be easier than getting into Europe?
They have a dream kind of illusion in that Europe is a nice place where they will have like a perfect life. So as long as they have this in mind they are not going to notice other opportunities
Don't say bullshit and think it'll magically turn to a fact. The biggest racism issues are always related to Europe. If you're ancestors didn't steal from Africa they wouldn't have been fleeing now their countries, and you wouldn't have put Morocco in such bad situation.
Damien McGonnell hahaha and all the Europeans are hardworking white collar people looking to prosper? But no. Your people are sucking their countries dry of welfare, sitting down at home with their subpar degrees or even lack off, crying to immigration to fall😂😂
Europeans do, too.
Anass Talai no one stole anything.
It's wild that we question Spain's right to a 600 year-old territory, but levying that same criticism upon an 80-year-old country that's partaking in active genocide is taboo
Because it's not a 80 year old country. It's a 4,000 year old country.
@Shanti Andía
I know . I just responded to the other posters claim.
@Shanti Andía *Technically* he isn't wrong.The State of Israel exists since 1948, so since 76 years, but the Israelites have lived there since ancient times. There were also the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea during the Iron Age . The Israelites were displaced many times during their history - by the Assyrians, the Romans, the Rashiduns and the Ottomans. In my opinion, they merely return to the home they were displaced from.
Israel all the way imo 🙂
Could they return home without the support of imperial powers doing to others and aiding the Israelis to do themselves what has been done to them for centuries?
If Jon Snow built trenches like this, they would still be defending the Winterfell.
Thank you for spoiling me
Ur slow
at least they wouldn't have lose edd dolorous!
That is a good one hahaha
Someone needs to tell them that there’s no job and house waiting for you in Europe! The grass is not always greener on the other side
It is in Benelux, Germany and Northern Europe. They just come and get 1000 euros every month for free.
@@ville06102 can confirm
@@ville06102 is that spain?
@@chilloha6464 In Europe there are not borderpatrols or anything you just walkt trough bordera
@@ville06102 oh ok so if a country has great relationahup with each other then it will open there border to the enighbouting country
I’m absolutely amazed at this series and continue to share it with family and friends. Please make a season 2 cause you clearly have a following :)
In a world where 95% of global wealth is consumed by few 10% this is just expected...the more Africa is kept underdeveloped the worse the problem will get..
Sorry to break it to you, but if you’re on here, you’re part of that 10% bro
@@kenos911 never said he wasn’t LOL
Lol, no. Allowing lethal fortifications on the border would end it immediately.
The way you state that looks like it is other people's duty to develop Africa
@@Solon_2 educate yourself in geopolitics and how it operates...you actually think your life is made possible through a fair play...
The fact that no one talks about the organised mafias that operate in Morrocco with the authorities not acting at all is very sad.
In many places in morocco the authorities=mafia
@Aizen taicho without mafias in Morocco who bring people here, the Spanish mafia it's dead
@Aizen taicho I do not remember saying anywhere i support spanish mafia´s actions and i have no clue how helping a polisario criminal is going to bring prosperity to my country.
Isn't it because it's irrelevant?
That's like watching a video about lakes and getting mad about why no one's talking about the ocean.
I've lived in morocco my entire life and only now learned about a moroccan mafia! can you enlighten me on the details please?
When Spain builds modern day Maginot line
@@theodorospetridis4142 The maginot was too
@@lucasthygesen1300 no at all😂😂😂😂
@@jmundi2002 Hahahahhah yes 😂😂
@@lucasthygesen1300 do u know some history?
@@jmundi2002 Yes
I feel sad for those people. I believe many of them would like to come to Europe to live their life but at the same time question of European's security arises. We cannot forget of many problems connected with imigration - mainly the illegal one. Im not saying every immigrant is bad.
@Rowan Melton "they are not bad"
I prefer not having the risk
@Rowan Melton Mass migration where ? they are in the order of hundreds thousand every year.
@@TheSkum are you aware that Europe faces a demographic chrisis, right?
@@TheSkum In the Greek Island of mytilini, that takes in refuges, the natives are 25.000 and the refuges 27.000.
@@29Valle12 so you want to replace the native population... nice
Stay strong Spain🇪🇸. Keep that border secure!
This vid makes it sound like having a strong border and wanting to protect it is a bad thing. Pffft.
@Aghilas I sincerely don't understand how could you end thinking Melilla is a colony.
@Aghilas I may be Spanish but the decolonisation committee isn't and don't consider that Spain has any colony. The ones who has a problem with colonies are the UK with 10 territories and USA with 3.
That does seem to be the narrative. Having no border security is a bad thing! If you had a nice club, you’d better have someone to work the door.
How is it not a colony when it wasn't Spanish land and native people lived and are still living there?
They wanna get to Europe, but what they can give us back, what useful skills or education they have, what jobs are they able to find? There is not enough jobs for local people who struggle to find anything or are working for very low salaries. Those people should fix their own countries. Why actually we have in Europe legal procedures to get into, maybe we should open borders for everyone o.O - can you imagine what a mess it would make?
Yes, aside from historical factors Europe is what it's because people are more educated than those in Africa. But once Africans go to Europe then it becomes a new Africa. Because what makes a place nice are the people who live on it
Well. Europe has millions of open jobs. The thing is that you almost always need something like a college degree to be able to apply and most of these regugees don‘t have such a degree.
exactly
so to correct you, europe needs people but not low skill manual workers like the very vast majority of these people would be.
I get your point, but you can’t blame them from trying. If you were starving on the street would you steal that loaf of bread to stay alive or would you say well I don’t think I have the right to steal.(metaphor)
It is not EU's responsibility to provide refuge to all those fleeing from wars and government incompetence. At the same time, I seriously hope those refugees are able to gain stability in their lives. It's really a pick your poison scenario.
the british and the french caused alot of unrest in the middle east and africa after they let go of their colonies, it is THEIR fault these countries are struggling, and should take responsibilities
@@ori6990 I don't agree, those brutal unrest and struggles were caused by the callous decisions of the upper class in France and Britain fifty to hundreds of years ago. You cannot fault everyday people of Europe to pay for their mistakes.
@@ori6990 should the colonies not take care of themselves? Why should the British have to watch and rule over them?
@@qm230 not saying that, im saying that they do need to do something about the situation since they started
It wasn't the EU's right or responsibility to bomb and invade foreign lands causing undue harm to the people, political structure, and infrastructure while usurping control over their resources, causing those people to have the need to flee their lands in order to avoid becoming victims of those catastrophic atrocities... But the EU and the Wester managed to invade their borders in order to do those things. Their lives were relatively stable and they were willing and more than able to stay within their borders before you all obliterated their reality. Perhaps the EU and the West should have thought about borders and rights before invading those of other nations. Since they didn't, and they are responsible for creating the situations that are causing people to flee home and to head for EU and Western borders. You made this bed, time to lay in it and pray that the strangers entering into your lands are kinder than you were entering into theirs!
I'm proud that our friend down there in Spain keep the border save!
I'm from Morocco the lady said it all : Morocco is doing Spain's and Europ's dirty work....so basicaly they are outsourcing human rights violation
nordinator89 just like clothing companies
yep you can google : Has this dress been to more countries than you?
nordinator89 it is the obligation of their home country to provide these people with foods and jobs, not spain nor morocco. The one violating human rights are the subsaharan countries.
+John Daly maybe send them a note and they will fix it
+John Daly i think it's obvious at this point it's not going to happen soon, and people are attempting to do what's best for themselves. People are twisting the words "illegal" to make the people seem bad. Give or take some are, just like the citizens already inside the country. Don't pretend to believe citizens are on some magical higher standard because they were born there. Any smart person at this point understanding the situation flees, and fixes what they can later on
Still,the Berlin wall was more fortified.
"your dumb"
Okay
Sami Ibrahim shut up befoe i send u and your faminly to the gulag
@@josephstalin1073 can i come too?
natuseta only if you do something bad
@@josephstalin1073 dad reform the ussr pls thx
Europés most fortified border is in Africa...well that make sense
Olji Boii Makes sense as much as Australia in Eurovision.
Also Cyprus is Asian country and EU member.
Kosta M. U cant really say Cyprus is a part of Asia. Its a part of europé but its closer to asia
Olji Boii Cyprus is geographically in Asia, although politically and culturally is European.
Kosta M. And Australia was in Eurovision cuz they are such big fans of Eurovision
Olji Boii idk, i don't watch Eurovision but in my personal opinion only European countries should participate.
Never, in my whole long life have I seen so many prospective civil engineers, architects, surgeons, barristers and politicians living in a single forest camp.
Wow they are truly inspiring and would never ever do anything bad
This is terrible but every country has the right to accept or refuse foreigners as they see fit
Pedro Gomes theyre not foreigners theyre illegal immigrants
Pedro Gomes this isn’t a question of whether they have the right, or whether they can, but whether they should.
The "right" according to who?
@@SoMonstersDoExist the ones paying the taxes for the welfare they certainly plan on using.
Exercising the sovereign authority of a democratic nation isn't "dirty."
Matter of subjective viewpoints.
Beating up and sexually assaulting people is
@@syedrehanalikhan7677 the can also shoot them cuz they are basically assaulting Spain
This is Vox we are talking about, they don't like White people
@@syedrehanalikhan7677 its not like the refugees are saints either, everyone knows what happened at cologne
There's 17% unemployment rate in Spain, so they won't find work here either. Also, if u realize, there's just young men. There's a 36% young unemployment rate.
L O
So~ accurate... actually nah :/
They come here, find that it is better than were they used to live but not what they were told back in those countries and end up working as low-paying employees, selling things on the streets and beaches or simply unemployed.
The unemployment rate for young people here in Spain deviates between a 35% and a 50%, even though specialiced work force are currently migrating to eastern Europe,US, Canada or in fewer cases South America and Asia.
You see, the oportunities to a sub-saharian person to come here and get a job is possible, but quite low (of course the employeer can take advantage that they need the money to under-pay him/her or make him work more hours than allowed)
Maybe in a few years when the economy recovers and we get to need low skilled workers (without a decree, things like that) they will have it easier like back in early 2000
David Hernández Cargol Spain is not as good as the UK or Germany they'll go there
David Hernández Cargol none of them want to go to Spain.
They're all going THROUGH Spain, to France and Anglostan.
blackice214 Yup.
They're all speaking French too.
They'll be in Spain for 5 minutes before they get paperwork, and bail to England, France, or perhaps Germany.
They want the U.K a free house and health care which our own people are struggling to have.
Can we just talk about how all these migrants think they will actually get a job/opportunity in Europe.
Yeah I don't really understand they will most likely live in extreme poverty? I don't think they can get help from the government without papers too right?
@@Nico-ig1mr they do get papers once they get over the border there is a immigrations office where they can ask for asylum
@@naizeylines why isn't there a process for seeking asylum without having to be in Europe?
@@Nico-ig1mr if im not mistaken you can ask for asylum in any embassy around the world
@@Nico-ig1mr Extreme poverty in Europe isn't the same extreme poverty in Africa. Besides, at least they have a chance here. A chance to change their lifes.
"Syrian people can cross easily"
Yeah, easily cross their fingers.
Why do they come to Europe and not moving somewhere else in Asia?
@@arthur7814 Becuse most of them are economic immigrants, most of them are not even refugees
@@M-Maxentius economic? Overhere in Belgium there are more immigrants that comes to belgium to steal money of the government than making their own business 😂
@@arthur7814 yeah i mean that they are " economic" immigrants, they come only to live off the state without giving anything back in return, its same here in sweden. they get free apartments and money . its terrible
@@M-Maxentius yea I mean they're always welcome but some of them do break stuff down and that's not cool man
This video would be great aside from one glaring omission: motive.
None of this makes any sense unless you discuss why these migrants are so desperate to get to Europe, and why staying in Morocco is not an option.
Honestly, without that missing puzzle piece this whole episode feels like it's imposing a narrative at the end.
InverseAgonist it said clearly that it is because of a war, were you not paying attention?
InverseAgonist I don't know whether Morocco is providing opportunities to the migrants so that they can live in peace and security.
At 2:55 the guy mentions Boko Haram but there are many motives people would have, Africa is a huge place.
Honestly i feel like it didn't force any narrative, it just reported facts, no solutions in sight. Still i want to know it as well
ohmanger but is there Boko Haram menace in Morocco? I want to know if Morocco is providing help to these migrants so that they don't have to cross over to Europe.
#wewantseason2
*ABSOLUTELY*
What's wrong with protecting one's border? An uncontrolled influx of immigrants would be unsustainable for every country.
I don't think this issue is all black and white. You can't blame Spain for fortifying their borders with all the recent violence within Europe. Spanish government has its duty to protect its citizens and regulate illegal immigrants.
Spain is failing at even keeping its own country together. They have a massive crisis of corruption, unemployment (especially youth unemployment), a rigged educational system and many people who want their regions to be autonomous.
I'm not saying they should let in all immigrants, but I disagree with the statement that the Spanish government is just protecting Spanish citizens, because it fails SO HARD at treating them right.
i'am a moroccan and the violence made by the white are at least 10 time more than the affrican so don't say that when they get there they will kill and steal and .... , if you'r country is in war and its getting worst every day
why can't you live in a better place ?
I'm not saying that all the immigrants who enter other nations are involved with crime. I'm saying that Spain has a right and sovereignty to fortify its borders and regulate illegal immigrants. Still, I agree that use of violence currently taking place at the borders is unacceptable.
Hard Work now wait, let's think for a second. You said that Spain is failing right. Now WHAT if THOSE IMMIGRANTS enter spain ILLEGALLY with no permission. Doesn't just add more work to the already failing Spain ?
Man, this is one tangled up mess for everyone....
If 100 people can storm a secure border like that imagine what happens when a million people storm Area 51
No one will storm area 51.
Easy.. you will have near 100 dead people. The US Military have been ordered to shoot on sight if they deem it necessary and they will if they see 100 people storming.
@@Mi-rs1vl well it's predicted to be 20000 people
@@alb4150cu CT cu
@@keefer07 what
Vox Borders was a informative and one of a kind series! Please do a second season!!
What needs to happen is for Africa to develop into a better place so that Africans can find a life there instead of taking the risk to go to Europe and probably ruining their lives there.
Storm your goverment, not europe borders
Excatly i don't want no more immigrants
@@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel4638 Careful with those double negatives mate.
@@bartpeter27 coming from polish person like you, when poland don't even allow immigrants
@@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel4638 I've been living in the west for a while and i don't envy you, but double negative in english results in a positive which means that comment above can be literally translated into: "i want more immigrants" its basic grammar. You can blame Angela Merkel for your current immigration problems, not poles. We are the smart ones.
@@bartpeter27 i'm norwegian and no not really, just really uncultural and unaccepting. But i also think it's smart. But i do like you polish painters over here tho. Doing good for our country,
9:26 made no sense, this woman believes every country in Africa without a war is so bad they need international protection
In many case it is the case x)...
@@Drizzle015 I agree with you
She didnt say that! She made the point that unless there is a war people dont need protection in their life? Shes pointing out that dangers come in many forms not just war..Disease..Famine..Human Rights abuses..
As a Spaniard i feel a little deceived because you almost didn't talk about Melilla itself. As it has always been a military city the extreme right wing is very present there. They even have a statue of Franco ( Spain's 20th century dictator and Hitler's ally for a while). This helps to create a hostility environment for all the immigrants that get into Melilla and complicates the situation even more.
Pablo Pinilla well, in 1999 Mustafa Aberrachan won the elections in Melilla. First Muslim to do so in Spain
He still did a better job reporting it, than our spanish media.
Fernando López It aint Spain. It is Moroccan territory
Stay strong brothers and sisters..
Why didn't they Interview Morrocan Guards? We just saw the western Argumentation, what about the other side???
Not just interview them but also shake their hand and get their autograph. The Moroccan Guards deserve a raise, parade and medals.
Sam Ben an other stupid panarabist
But yeah. We need soldiers to be used against invaders. No ones forcing you to cross the border. You wont let someone in your house without throwing atleast 1 punch right?
They're not merciless at all because these migrants actually have been given the right to get Moroccan citizenship and work in Morocco instead they refuse and theyre only goal is to go for Europe as they think it's some promised land where moneys found on the floor.
they're also a concern for bush fires as moroccan forests are fairly drought out also the excessive ammount of filth and plastic rubble they leave around is something we have to deal with too.
Most of these ''subsaharan african'' migrants are econmical refugees and the part where he says it's about his skin color is not true as alot of Moroccans are known to have dark skin colors aswell especially from Marrakech or the Sahara desert.
Vox is a bunch of agenda driven cucks, what do you expect?
We will be patiently waiting for Vox borders S2 😊😊
I love how Vox and other "PC" organizations/news outlets don't say "illegal immigration," and also make it seem if a country has a strict border policy they're the bad guy.
the man You can't say whatever you want on UA-cam.
What's wrong with just settling in Morocco? I hear it's quite nice there.
Fr its nice in morocco especially in big cities like casablanca its nice and modern
This is the last video...Noooo..
Jay Kay ikr. They could’ve done more episodes like the border between North Korea China and Russia. The most intense borders on the world.
This was also my response, it's been a captivating series.
"most intense border in the world" its one of the most boring. nothing interesting happens there. all 3 nations are on good terms
North Korea
isnt really a border... theres no fence just a yellow line....
Jay Kay yay
I see so many comments that Spain should return this land to the Africans. SPAIN OWNS THIS LAND FOR 600 YEARS. It’s not like they conquered it last week lol
To be fair, you can use the same argument to say that britain should own india during the independance movement because it was ruled for hundreds of years by the british.
Thomy Fun British still only “owned” India for 200 years (not 600). And you really can’t compare India with this small city lol. And the people speak Spanish so... Really don’t see a point why should Spain give their territory to anyone.
@@blackappleslo With this logic, whole of Spain should be given back to Arabs since they owned that land for 781 years!
فهد سليمان for the last 800 years is spanish. It’s not the same
@@blackappleslo So before 600 years, when at that time Arabs ruled parts of France, Italy and whole of Spain for the {last} 781 years!, You really don’t see a point why should Arabs give all that territory back!?
What the hell do you want Spain to do? If like entering to other one house and now he needs to help you
Me preocupa más el trato que les dan las autoridades marroquíes, una cosa es no dejarles entrar y otra muy distinta clavarles cuchillos.
haha yeah, smashing your window and climbing in your house and now you must feed me and give me a place to sleep
@@CallumSk8er That's the main problem, if we didn't do that they wouldn't even bother to enter.
@@CallumSk8er that's the best description of this situation
@@denisescully4567 Also I have never exploited anyone so I don't have to pay for It.
If you have a water leak in your house: the first thing you do is not getting out the mop and cleaning up the mess. The first thing to do is shut off the source of the water..
Spain isn't responsible for accepting these people. Spain had no real Sub-Saharan colonies and weren't responsible for their situation. But 50-60 years in, African governments needs to be accountable for failing to provide for their people.
Well, Ecuatorial Guinea, but that's it.
@@eukarya_ The Ecuato-Gunieanos came in plane and whit his papers
Spain funds African dictators.
They’re not responsible, but they are assisting in a border force that has no problem killing people trying to cross. Crossing a border should result in detainment, not being hit with a wooden stick with a nail.
I think Spain should allow refugees to cross through the country. Possibly not take them in because Spain isn’t rich. I wish more stayed so they could try improve their countries, but it’s a situation neither you or I will fully understand. You’re lucky you’ve not had to escape a war torn country, travelling through one of the deadliest deserts and borders in the world just for a taste of freedom.
@@cordeliathomas8787 they do have problems killing them. Every time someone dies, even with no involvement of the border patrols, theres calls for resignations in the government, and punishments imposed around
We need another season of Borders!
I hate when they say Africa. You would think the whole continent is migrating to Europe in waves. When they come from like three countries.
Rimu N very true, this generalisation is very misleading. Plus thousends of Europeans and Asians move to Africa but I guess thats not an issue.
UPROAR 91 it isnt though because compared to african populations these are way smaller and africa’s native population is the fastest growing in the world.
Bram van Tongeren no it's not
+Rimu - which are the 3 countries you are talking about?
UPROAR 91 erhm...no that is definitely not the problem when Europeans migrate to Africa they create jobs and boost the economy when African migrate to Europe they create crime
I used to live there. Melilla has been linked to whatever power dominated the iberian peninsula (Phoenicians, csrthaginians, romans, visigoths, arabs, spain) for thousands of years. It’s not like spain “conquered” it in the XVI century.