I'm pretty much jaded with all the golf tutorials these days on Y.T., T.T., etc. What caused me to stop on this one was the unique thumbnail.....(Underhand Throw...). Found myself staying for the whole 7+ minutes. Damn if it didn't get me off the sofa and off to the range (on a 98 degree day) to try this out. When I finally got it right, the feeling I had was that of a baseball power hitter. The ball was going ridiculous distances.....thank you, sir! Got a new subscriber here! 👍🍸🥃
Thank you so much because it's a enlightening ah ha moment for me. Working hard on my game at 67 and have become way to mechanical and technical. I'm excited to go to the range and just relax.
Love the simplicity of the hand throwing. This is what I have incorporated in the swing recently and seems to be getting better. Just trying to override the bad habits formed over the years. Thanks for making it easy to understand in a few minutes of instruction.
I would just like to express my appreciation for this video! I am a left side dominant golfer who plays right handed so a lot of my focus has been on the lead wrist and the actions of the lead side for some unknown reason. I got sick and tired of people saying the golf swing was it just a throw or skipping a rock Etc because it never resonated and definitely could never execute any of that. I'm fairly coordinated with my right hand but it had nothing to do with my mechanics. I watched your video hesitantly thinking that this was just nonsense. Yet just your description of how the trail hand grips the club was an absolute game changer! Almost all of my mechanics and motions were actually pretty right on with the exception of where the trail hand was gripping the club! So literally I have easily gained two clubs with each iron just from my right hand to Trail hand actually releasing properly now. It has dramatically changed the way I see the swing and what is supposed to be happening dynamically. I find it ironic that I've read literally hundreds of books on Golf and watched almost every video that's available and nobody ever mentions this detail so simply. This was extremely valuable piece of information and I thank you very much. I have been looking into teaching Golf and have put it off because I knew my swing wasn't quite right and this was actually the final piece of a lot of that. Thank you very much for some actual quality information
I feel blessed to have helped you and I wish you well in all your teaching endeavors. Study the compound pivot as that is the secret sauce as the body supports this action
So glad you posted this. This is exactly correct. In fact, Jack Nicklaus long ago said the same thing about the swing being a "throw". This should be practiced by anyone who really wants to improve. Excellent video.
This is quite eye-opening. I always find the most useful tips are those which, like this, alter your concept or and think differently about what you're doing.
Roger, you are a gift to we tragics who have been seduced by these imposters who call themselves Golf Professionals! Our Zoom lesson was the best thing ever to happen to my golf! After 40 years of trying, I can now chip and I'm on my way down to single figures at 71. Thank You Roger: John Lyons. Grateful Aussie. P.S. please do a bunker lesson.
Very good. This makes more sense to me from playing baseball growing up. I tried some other concepts but had no feeling of control or distance in the swing. Throwing motion I can relate to.
Wow! I needed this. I just walked in the backyard at 5am to try this. It took about 5-6 swings with just my right hand to get the feel for it and once I added my left arm back in I simply kept it straight but for the first time focused on what my right hand was doing. Before I always swung with my left arm…. Now with my focus on my right arm I am sailing my irons farther and straighter than ever before. I can’t wait to get out to the course! Edit: another round driving balls with my 5 iron and I have finally crossed the line from having trouble hitting straight with any power to can’t miss! I have no idea how I never had this epiphany before…. I’m right handed, why was I trying to control my swing with my left arm??
Really good video. Been working on this type of swing, just haven’t quite got the arm throw down yet. I get down to Bowling Green for work a couple times a week, think I’ll schedule some time with you and head on down to Hendersonville soon.
I go along happily thinking that I am learning this game and then I come across some instruction like this and everything goes out the damned window. Thank you.
Yeah I heard this idea from speed golf rob it’s the one that’s helped me on striking the best, once you get your body lined up and grip down you don’t even have to think about anything besides this and tempo to hit a pretty good shot atleast it works for me
I like the idea of winding up with the right hand then throw your right arm toward the target....but ive yet to try it lol makes a lot sense though and you can really see how you get through the shot and the clubhead rises up high after impact....makes a lot sense and will defo have to try
Will do. My grips always been pretty solid(2/3knuckles) but I think this might help me get rid of my bad habit instinct to hit at the ball.....the feeling of throwing my right arm toward target sounds like the ball will be collected without trying to hit at the ball which is what im striving for and used to do years ago when i was getting lessons...will let you know how I get on. Cheers
No wonder us baseball players have trouble...it's not the base ball bat swing that gets us, it's the damned THROWING of the baseball when you pitch that engrains the over the top mistakes.... ....unbelievable ...amazing.
I never thought of it that way but that makes sense So now practice under I imagine a women's speed pitcher would have some of the fastest underarm motion
Not sure if it is ideal to use the dominant hand too much in the swing, if you want the swing of a scratch golfer. I think what you want is nearly dead hands, actually.
I agree 100% ... really just showing how the right hand and arm move in the swing .. most never use it correctly . Once they do then the coordinated action of feet knees and hips in a waking motion allows the club to swing with passive hands and the right makes the underhand action and the left makes a backhand action .. and that is what I think you are referring to
I figured this out literally yesterday what helped me massively was lifting my left heel up of the floor and pointing the knee towards the ball it keeps you centred then throw underhand as he said and I have honestly never hit the ball as far and straight ❤
Good video, Roger! Question: I've tried throwing motion feels many times before, but I can't seem to stop scooping and adding loft (losing distance)... What might be causing this? Where should I focus/aim the throw to improve shaft lean & compression? Are you focusing on the clubhead or grip or...? Thanks, cheers!
@@rkswingking need more consistent practice with this but took it straight to the course today and gained an extra ten yards on average with my irons if I made good contact, and this caused me to make easier swings which feels really nice. It threw off my driver though but I feel i'm on the verge of breakthrough, just need a little more muscle memory with it. Thanks!
Close .. I am teaching this with a compound pivot and he keeps his weight on left side and is more rotary ... but if your getting good results from it keep doing it !
You can have that image and do that . You will just have to open your chest more and have a heck of a lot of right lateral bend . I just want the right arm action that goes with the compound pivot . It is faster and easier on the body , but if your flexible you can do it , A current tour player that does this is Victor Hovland and so his speed is capped at a certain speed even though he is world class player with that move that works for him
No retain the lag, hold the angle here, rotate the body, that style of teaching is destroying more golfers than it helps, no wonder average handicaps haven't changed in years despite technology, it's a bat and ball game
Side arm motion will force a chest that opens to much . When throwing under your left leg straightens on the downswing which will create way more lag naturally and the lag will be higher up . Think of a baseball pitcher , if he opened his chest a bunch he would push the ball thru , no snap. Side arm throw is more like a submarine throw and that wont have as much speed
Well I don't open my chest and bend down with alot of right lateral bend to get level with the ground . I support the straight left leg which stops rotation and allows the arm to whip through. That's a big difference
Agreed it worked for hogan who had to hit 500 balls a day to maintain his form . He said I lf he missed 1 day he had to practice twice as hard .. I am just trying to make it easy on everyone 😌
Right hand is a throw Left hand is a backhand And our put them together and want to have passive hands you will have a sling with the weight counterbalancing .. like a weight on a string .. it's all the same thing , just how your brain perceives it
I feel That's not a great thing to say that your arm is coming from the side of your body. Most instructors talk about how the club and arms stays in front of your body
The right elbow does get closer to the body and the elbow , pelvis and knee and ankle joint all come into impact together and will feel like side of the body ... I can understand there could be a misinterpretation
Your right it would then be a back handed move .. like tennis backhand .. but the left hand has to be in correct grip. I went over this in one of my videos about hand action
I get what you are trying to illustrate by saying the body doesn’t move the hands and arms, and I am going to try this idea/feeling . However, when many people speak of the body moving the arms, they tend to be talking about if you keep the arms and hands structure at address; and then move the body. Just as if you were doing say a wood chopping oblique exercise with a cable or band. You would keep the structure formed at the start of the exercise and turn your body or tilt your body..at least to start the motion. Im guessing, you know this though. You are just trying to illustrate a point. I do feel/think keeping some structure to your arms would make things more consistent or powerful than just trying to move your arms and hands independently of your body. Then again, obviously my swing has issues; or I wouldn’t be looking at youtube videos. I don’t think necessarily that is what you are trying to say to do. Though, because you frequently address that the body doesn’t move the arms, it can seem like you are implying that. When you are throwing a ball though, you think about taking the hand back; but the body is what moves first. The intended motion makes the body do what it knows to do. I think the problem is that the golf swing is not what people/the body know what to do. There isn’t a specific way to do it. Or, at least one taught and then learned by most people. So, we all have these ideas of what a golf swing is, or the function of one, that is inaccurate. At least, in part. We don’t have a correct “intended motion” for our body to do. Our brain is cuing our body to do something, but at least in part, our body is doesn’t have the right blueprint or taught motion pattern.
Thank you . I am glad you found the channel . I try and teach images and feels . The body does respond there is force before motion and shifts and counterbalances for sure. Understand knowing all this doesn't necessarily make you better . I am just keeping it simple. I have done videos that are extensive detailed amd longer that are on my page . Force before motion and counterbalances etc . All that happens though with throwing images or swinging a rope a weight on a string . I really try and teach people to golf and not just play golf swing . I hope this helps .
It's an underhand throw with two hands gripping the object to be thrown, sideways on to the target and where the object isn't actually thrown. Looks more like a golf swing to me.
Just showing people the action of the right arm in the swing and alot of people can feel that with a Underhand Throw feeling .. just as in other videos I show the left hand is a backhand action Along with a compound pivot.. And its really more like a fling. But throw works for alot of people
Not quite .. in a skipping stone motion you have to open your cheat more and have more right lateral bend. If that image works for you though ... great 👍
I have to comment again because my game has gone to a different level,I’m hitting the ball further than I’ve ever done,and more consistent,seriously,thank you so much,🏌🏼🏌🏼🏴
I'm pretty much jaded with all the golf tutorials these days on Y.T., T.T., etc. What caused me to stop on this one was the unique thumbnail.....(Underhand Throw...). Found myself staying for the whole 7+ minutes. Damn if it didn't get me off the sofa and off to the range (on a 98 degree day) to try this out. When I finally got it right, the feeling I had was that of a baseball power hitter. The ball was going ridiculous distances.....thank you, sir! Got a new subscriber here! 👍🍸🥃
That's awesome!!!!
Thanks so much
Straight Mike Austin instruction, very good lesson Roger!!
Thank you 😊
Another great one Roger, you’re basically the only guy on here teaching golfing. Not weird body positions, teaching golfing . Much love from Canada
Thanks so much , hope you are improving 😀
And from North Dakota. I agree with this guy
Hi North Dakota.. 😎 cool thanks
Love the videos really helps visualize the golf swing. Do a video on hitting irons. Long vs short and how to not chunk or top them.
@@rkswingking you do Skype lessons? Have a setup in my garage
As an owner of Mike Austin and Mike Dunaway DVD’s You sir are an excellent teacher
Wow ... thank you . Very high praise
Thank you so much because it's a enlightening ah ha moment for me. Working hard on my game at 67 and have become way to mechanical and technical. I'm excited to go to the range and just relax.
Fantastic!
Roger is the man!! Another gold nugget!!! Keep em coming
Thank you !
Love the simplicity of the hand throwing. This is what I have incorporated in the swing recently and seems to be getting better. Just trying to override the bad habits formed over the years. Thanks for making it easy to understand in a few minutes of instruction.
Great to hear! And thanks for the comment . They all mean alot to me and love that your getting better because of it 😌
I would just like to express my appreciation for this video! I am a left side dominant golfer who plays right handed so a lot of my focus has been on the lead wrist and the actions of the lead side for some unknown reason. I got sick and tired of people saying the golf swing was it just a throw or skipping a rock Etc because it never resonated and definitely could never execute any of that. I'm fairly coordinated with my right hand but it had nothing to do with my mechanics. I watched your video hesitantly thinking that this was just nonsense. Yet just your description of how the trail hand grips the club was an absolute game changer! Almost all of my mechanics and motions were actually pretty right on with the exception of where the trail hand was gripping the club! So literally I have easily gained two clubs with each iron just from my right hand to Trail hand actually releasing properly now. It has dramatically changed the way I see the swing and what is supposed to be happening dynamically. I find it ironic that I've read literally hundreds of books on Golf and watched almost every video that's available and nobody ever mentions this detail so simply. This was extremely valuable piece of information and I thank you very much. I have been looking into teaching Golf and have put it off because I knew my swing wasn't quite right and this was actually the final piece of a lot of that. Thank you very much for some actual quality information
I feel blessed to have helped you and I wish you well in all your teaching endeavors.
Study the compound pivot as that is the secret sauce as the body supports this action
So glad you posted this. This is exactly correct. In fact, Jack Nicklaus long ago said the same thing about the swing being a "throw". This should be practiced by anyone who really wants to improve. Excellent video.
Thank you so much
This is quite eye-opening. I always find the most useful tips are those which, like this, alter your concept or and think differently about what you're doing.
Give it a try and let me know
Roger, you are a gift to we tragics who have been seduced by these imposters who call themselves Golf Professionals!
Our Zoom lesson was the best thing ever to happen to my golf!
After 40 years of trying, I can now chip and I'm on my way down to single figures at 71.
Thank You Roger: John Lyons.
Grateful Aussie.
P.S. please do a bunker lesson.
Yes I will do a whole series on the bunker . You rock and I am so glad to have helped you ❤️
What an awesome coach! He's got a great way of conveying the golf swing ... a way that average person can relate to. Thanks so much Roger!
Your very welcome.. thanks for the kind words
Pure gold,,Ernest jones would be proud,,🏌🏼🏌🏼👊
Thank you so much
Ernest P. Worrell
Very much like Mike Austin method. Day to learn makes the game much simpler. Thanks
And Manuel de la torre ... yes agreed 👍
I like the fast paced and concise great information. Very easy to watch and understand. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very good. This makes more sense to me from playing baseball growing up. I tried some other concepts but had no feeling of control or distance in the swing. Throwing motion I can relate to.
That's great keep me posted on your progress
I’m off to the range with this. Subscribed! 😊
Awesome! Thank you!
Very helpful advice! Since I am focusing more on my right arm / hand action I am improving. The right hand is definitely key for me.
Glad I could help !
Wow! I needed this. I just walked in the backyard at 5am to try this. It took about 5-6 swings with just my right hand to get the feel for it and once I added my left arm back in I simply kept it straight but for the first time focused on what my right hand was doing. Before I always swung with my left arm…. Now with my focus on my right arm I am sailing my irons farther and straighter than ever before. I can’t wait to get out to the course!
Edit: another round driving balls with my 5 iron and I have finally crossed the line from having trouble hitting straight with any power to can’t miss! I have no idea how I never had this epiphany before…. I’m right handed, why was I trying to control my swing with my left arm??
That's just great
Thanks so much for letting me know your success !!
Marcus Enblad would be proud of this video
Thanks for the compliment ☺️
This is a fantastic video.
Your very welcome and thank you 😊
I was taught that the left hand was dominant, this is such an eye opener, thank you very much😊
The left hand makes a backhand motion while right makes underhand toss motion .
Your welcome 🙏
Really good video. Been working on this type of swing, just haven’t quite got the arm throw down yet. I get down to Bowling Green for work a couple times a week, think I’ll schedule some time with you and head on down to Hendersonville soon.
Great .. looking forward to working with you
OMG GREAT TO HEAR A SIMPLE BUT FANTASTIC COACHING VIDEO . SIMPLE AND VERY EFFECTIVE 👍👍🙏🙏
Your very welcome .. hope it helps !
I go along happily thinking that I am learning this game and then I come across some instruction like this and everything goes out the damned window.
Thank you.
Hopefully in a good way 🙏
Yeah I heard this idea from speed golf rob it’s the one that’s helped me on striking the best, once you get your body lined up and grip down you don’t even have to think about anything besides this and tempo to hit a pretty good shot atleast it works for me
That's great to hear ... thanks for the comment
I like the idea of winding up with the right hand then throw your right arm toward the target....but ive yet to try it lol makes a lot sense though and you can really see how you get through the shot and the clubhead rises up high after impact....makes a lot sense and will defo have to try
Let me know how it goes ! ...
Make sure grip is correct or won't work
Will do. My grips always been pretty solid(2/3knuckles) but I think this might help me get rid of my bad habit instinct to hit at the ball.....the feeling of throwing my right arm toward target sounds like the ball will be collected without trying to hit at the ball which is what im striving for and used to do years ago when i was getting lessons...will let you know how I get on. Cheers
Man, this is a lightbulb moment.
That's great 👍 enjoy the new feels
@@rkswingking- thank you sir.
No wonder us baseball players have trouble...it's not the base ball bat swing that gets us, it's the damned THROWING of the baseball when you pitch that engrains the over the top mistakes....
....unbelievable ...amazing.
I never thought of it that way but that makes sense
So now practice under
I imagine a women's speed pitcher would have some of the fastest underarm motion
We're in trouble when you put the Left Arm on the club and shorten the backswing...
Keep working on flexibility of the left shoulder and lat . Check out latest video on how the arms work with the spine
@@rkswingking Thank You..
Not sure if it is ideal to use the dominant hand too much in the swing, if you want the swing of a scratch golfer. I think what you want is nearly dead hands, actually.
I agree 100% ... really just showing how the right hand and arm move in the swing .. most never use it correctly . Once they do then the coordinated action of feet knees and hips in a waking motion allows the club to swing with passive hands and the right makes the underhand action and the left makes a backhand action .. and that is what I think you are referring to
You the man, Roger.
Hope this helps you
I figured this out literally yesterday what helped me massively was lifting my left heel up of the floor and pointing the knee towards the ball it keeps you centred then throw underhand as he said and I have honestly never hit the ball as far and straight ❤
That's just great to hear ... so many people getting better !!!
Thanks for posting
100% , I was screwed up for a year with the body moves the club garbage. I was over the top over and over
That's good only a year .. people play that way there whole life !
Thanks for the comment 😀
Good video, Roger!
Question: I've tried throwing motion feels many times before, but I can't seem to stop scooping and adding loft (losing distance)... What might be causing this? Where should I focus/aim the throw to improve shaft lean & compression? Are you focusing on the clubhead or grip or...? Thanks, cheers!
Hope new video helps you
excellent and concise video ...
Glad you liked it!
Simply great!
Thank you !!!
Great info!!
Thanks for watching!
Good stuff Dude.
Thank you
great swing thought for me to take to the course, thanks!
Enjoy 😉 let me know how it goes ... ps must have hands in the manner I described with the grip or won't be correct
@@rkswingking need more consistent practice with this but took it straight to the course today and gained an extra ten yards on average with my irons if I made good contact, and this caused me to make easier swings which feels really nice.
It threw off my driver though but I feel i'm on the verge of breakthrough, just need a little more muscle memory with it. Thanks!
Awesome
This guy is good.
Thanks very much ... enjoy
Thank you..makes sense!
Your very welcome
As an engineer, I concur.
Thank you sir
Tom Saguto teaches this method.
Close .. I am teaching this with a compound pivot and he keeps his weight on left side and is more rotary ... but if your getting good results from it keep doing it !
I always thought the golf swing was like skipping rocks on the water.
You can have that image and do that . You will just have to open your chest more and have a heck of a lot of right lateral bend . I just want the right arm action that goes with the compound pivot . It is faster and easier on the body , but if your flexible you can do it , A current tour player that does this is Victor Hovland and so his speed is capped at a certain speed even though he is world class player with that move that works for him
Just watched a bunch of videos talking about how critical it is to keep your right elbow tucked against the body...lol. 🙄
Yeah sorry lots of conflicting information
No retain the lag, hold the angle here, rotate the body, that style of teaching is destroying more golfers than it helps, no wonder average handicaps haven't changed in years despite technology, it's a bat and ball game
100% agreed!! Enjoy 😉
Looks to me more like a side throw instead of underhand. I think of unhand throws like the women's softball.
Side arm motion will force a chest that opens to much . When throwing under your left leg straightens on the downswing which will create way more lag naturally and the lag will be higher up . Think of a baseball pitcher , if he opened his chest a bunch he would push the ball thru , no snap. Side arm throw is more like a submarine throw and that wont have as much speed
Its a Stone Skipping throw ...you proved it right here
Well I don't open my chest and bend down with alot of right lateral bend to get level with the ground .
I support the straight left leg which stops rotation and allows the arm to whip through. That's a big difference
Doesn’t that throwing motion add loft instead of delofting the clubface
No sir . You can throw it high ,medium or low ... just like throwing a ball low that is where your arm would go
Ben Hogans right elbow stayed close to his body...
Agreed it worked for hogan who had to hit 500 balls a day to maintain his form . He said I lf he missed 1 day he had to practice twice as hard ..
I am just trying to make it easy on everyone 😌
And the lead arm is a frisbee throw
Yes sir
Where do you teach, please?
Country hills golf course
Hendersonville tn
Would love to help you
I’m from Shelbyville. I need a lesson
That's close , come see me
Rkswingking@gmail.com
And let's get together
So is the downswing all trail arm? What's the role of the lead arm?
Right hand is a throw
Left hand is a backhand
And our put them together and want to have passive hands you will have a sling with the weight counterbalancing .. like a weight on a string .. it's all the same thing , just how your brain perceives it
Check out the last video I just did ... inspired by your question
I have believed this for a long time. It’s similar to bowling.
Yes it is just the tool changed
Just like manuel de la toro said
Yes sir !
Thank you for this. I've been trying to focus on my right hand throwing the club/ball
Your very welcome
Are u saying use right elbow joint in downswing?
In a throwing motion it goes from bent to straight and it is s major power producer
Strong left hand grip?
Just how hand hangs at the side
I feel That's not a great thing to say that your arm is coming from the side of your body. Most instructors talk about how the club and arms stays in front of your body
The right elbow does get closer to the body and the elbow , pelvis and knee and ankle joint all come into impact together and will feel like side of the body ...
I can understand there could be a misinterpretation
That’s ok for right handed people but if you are a right handed player who is left handed. The underhand throw is not very easy to accomplish
Your right it would then be a back handed move .. like tennis backhand .. but the left hand has to be in correct grip. I went over this in one of my videos about hand action
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I gotta wear glasses..😞
Get the frame less or big Oakley types
@@rkswingking I could get birdie glasses..but I will still double bogey..luv your vids👍
Bahahahahaha... and thanks 😊
skipping a stone on the water
If that works for you then great !
I get what you are trying to illustrate by saying the body doesn’t move the hands and arms, and I am going to try this idea/feeling . However, when many people speak of the body moving the arms, they tend to be talking about if you keep the arms and hands structure at address; and then move the body. Just as if you were doing say a wood chopping oblique exercise with a cable or band. You would keep the structure formed at the start of the exercise and turn your body or tilt your body..at least to start the motion. Im guessing, you know this though. You are just trying to illustrate a point.
I do feel/think keeping some structure to your arms would make things more consistent or powerful than just trying to move your arms and hands independently of your body. Then again, obviously my swing has issues; or I wouldn’t be looking at youtube videos. I don’t think necessarily that is what you are trying to say to do. Though, because you frequently address that the body doesn’t move the arms, it can seem like you are implying that.
When you are throwing a ball though, you think about taking the hand back; but the body is what moves first. The intended motion makes the body do what it knows to do. I think the problem is that the golf swing is not what people/the body know what to do. There isn’t a specific way to do it. Or, at least one taught and then learned by most people. So, we all have these ideas of what a golf swing is, or the function of one, that is inaccurate. At least, in part. We don’t have a correct “intended motion” for our body to do. Our brain is cuing our body to do something, but at least in part, our body is doesn’t have the right blueprint or taught motion pattern.
Thank you . I am glad you found the channel . I try and teach images and feels . The body does respond there is force before motion and shifts and counterbalances for sure.
Understand knowing all this doesn't necessarily make you better . I am just keeping it simple.
I have done videos that are extensive detailed amd longer that are on my page .
Force before motion and counterbalances etc .
All that happens though with throwing images or swinging a rope a weight on a string .
I really try and teach people to golf and not just play golf swing .
I hope this helps .
It's an underhand throw with two hands gripping the object to be thrown, sideways on to the target and where the object isn't actually thrown. Looks more like a golf swing to me.
Just showing people the action of the right arm in the swing and alot of people can feel that with a Underhand Throw feeling .. just as in other videos I show the left hand is a backhand action
Along with a compound pivot..
And its really more like a fling.
But throw works for alot of people
Skipping a stone.
Not quite .. in a skipping stone motion you have to open your cheat more and have more right lateral bend. If that image works for you though ... great 👍
I have to comment again because my game has gone to a different level,I’m hitting the ball further than I’ve ever done,and more consistent,seriously,thank you so much,🏌🏼🏌🏼🏴
Your so very welcome. I just love hearing that this channel is helping people