We are in an amazing time with so much good gear available to so many people. It really is great! For me personally, staying up on all the new stuff coming out each day is a bit exhausting and not what I got into guitar for. Many times the difference between one or the other is incredibly small and we're splitting hairs that don't really matter as a player. I get that some people are more of collectors and/or just enjoy trying things, and that's cool and fine. That's just not me. I have a few good pedals that each serve a purpose, a couple of good guitars, a good amp, and a few good amp sims. I have more than I need and have found that spending the last couple of years focussed on playing and writing has brought me more joy than any new gear could. As far as the number of guitar pedal companies, I don't think it's a real issue. If someone wants to start another pedal company, I say go for it. People will buy what they want (no one's forcing anyone). And if there is a threshold hit at some point where people aren't buying enough to support all of the companies, then I'm sure some companies will be weeded out and close as the market adjusts. That's how it goes. I don't plan on buying any pedals anytime soon though 😅
Times changes and we are living in a time of "customize your Coffee, Noodles, Pedals ... everything. A example: I bought a "litl RAT" last month. I was inspired by, how Nuno Bettencourt got his percussiv edgy tone out of a JCM800. And I remembered, the origional RAT was the first Pedal, I´d ever tried, as I played a 76 LesPaul in a RAT in a FullStack Plexi of my Unkle. I thought about: "Go original vintage, if the Vibe is first, go for Black Sectret Moeer, if it have to be cheap, Go Wampler, if you wants to be Mini and more Flexible or go for JHS "10 RATs in a box". I watched tons of UA-cam-Videos and at the End, ProCo litl RAT is for me the marriage of Vintage and Mini. Look at TC electronic Toneprint technology: The Pedals are in other Ballpark but to handle it, is TC-like. Makes that sence for you now?
I think that the modeling world, sampling, and capturing is the new thing, and when it is perfected, all the old studio gear will sound identical to the old tube or analog gear we cant afford, so it is an exiting time for me a 50 year veteran to the guitar. Thanks Joey for what you do. I love your playing and your tone is "KILLER" sho us how you dial it in on an episode. 🤪
You bring up some valid points... however I would present that more selection is always better than a market where it's slim choice. The solution in my view is simple... Consumers should simply buy the pedals that do stand out from the crowd to them. Example of a few stand out pedals I own are... Walrus Audio Lore Reverse Soundscape Generator. Walrus Audio Julia. Boss SL-2 Slicer. It's all about personal taste, but I find there are lots of stand out amazing pedals out here and I love the huge selection. Of course every company is going to have their own (somewhat similar version) of a distortion pedal for example. However I find that all part of the fun, exploring and discovering the subtle differences that each company does that just might make the difference in the exact tone you're looking for.
I see what you're saying. the thing that might sway me to try a pedal is if it's a local maker, with some interesting ideas and high quality so it lasts. MI audio, Australian, makes a buff and boost pedal, similar to the tc idea, no bass and treble. it had a flat freq boost or mid bump boost or treble boost. i leave it on mid bump for solo's or cut in certain parts and that's the only drive option i have on top of my mesa rec amp drive options.
I originally wanted to include that in the video. Now that everyone makes all pedals, why not support your local pedal maker? He probably nails a tubescreamer circuit as good as anyone..
I personally don't feel like I ever need to see, try, or read about another 'overdrive' pedal again. Expensive or dirt cheap, the differences are miniscule and easily lost in a live mix. And yes, 90% of the time, a simple boost pedal will do the job just as well, if not better. Find one you like and get back to playing.
yep , but it's not only pedals , it;s guitars , amps , modelers , plug ins or whatever guitarrelated thingy , form a low pricepoint to super expensive its out there by the millions , total overkill , in the end most guitarist use 3 - 5 different sounds during a gig so there is no need for all these "options " , maybe nice to fool around with at home while creating wierd sounds , but pratical for everyday gigging , i don;t think so .
Yeah they all sound the same. I really don’t get the pedal worship for things like Klons and King of Tone etc. They’re circuits every builder uses and in a blindfold test with proper EQ for tolerance differences, no guitar player can tell the difference within a category between a $400 and $40 pedal, and neither can the audience.
Pedal manufacturers cashing in on the covid guitar boom. That's the only thing i can think of, likewise though I can't see them all lasting. As a beginner myself I started looking and just as quick stopped. It's too confusing.
No, I dont feel overwhelmed, or underwhelmed, I am perfectly whelmed! I wish there was an affordable alternative to Electronic Audio Experiments drive pedals!! I get what you are saying though lol I actually think EQD is turning into a hipster beginner brand. Their last two pedals have been mono digital effects.
There is no actual innovation in pedals, guitars, tone woods, amps, music theory, guitar lessons and even guitar UA-cam channels and content for decades and I think most people can see that. But I guess you can look at them as a way to make the industry up and going and keep some of the good music alive longer, and also keep people entertained. Just like the videos you make, are they particularly innovative? I guess not, but do we still want to watch it? yes, demo that boost please.
I disagree with the notion that staying with tradition is unique to guitar. In fact, most instruments haven't changed in hundreds of years: flute, piano, clarinet, violin, french horn, etc. E-drums pretty much just mimic a traditional drum set. Synths, electric guitars and bases are some of the few instruments that HAVE evolved.
Thanks for your comment! The instruments themselves have evolved - yes. We’re talking pedals though. And you can’t really scroll through any site of any manufacturer and find the same old same old in 90% of all cases.
Thanks for your comment! The instruments themselves have evolved - yes. We’re talking pedals though. And you can’t really scroll through any site of any manufacturer and find the same old same old in 90% of all cases.
We are in an amazing time with so much good gear available to so many people. It really is great! For me personally, staying up on all the new stuff coming out each day is a bit exhausting and not what I got into guitar for. Many times the difference between one or the other is incredibly small and we're splitting hairs that don't really matter as a player.
I get that some people are more of collectors and/or just enjoy trying things, and that's cool and fine. That's just not me.
I have a few good pedals that each serve a purpose, a couple of good guitars, a good amp, and a few good amp sims. I have more than I need and have found that spending the last couple of years focussed on playing and writing has brought me more joy than any new gear could.
As far as the number of guitar pedal companies, I don't think it's a real issue. If someone wants to start another pedal company, I say go for it. People will buy what they want (no one's forcing anyone). And if there is a threshold hit at some point where people aren't buying enough to support all of the companies, then I'm sure some companies will be weeded out and close as the market adjusts. That's how it goes. I don't plan on buying any pedals anytime soon though 😅
Times changes and we are living in a time of "customize your Coffee, Noodles, Pedals ... everything. A example: I bought a "litl RAT" last month. I was inspired by, how Nuno Bettencourt got his percussiv edgy tone out of a JCM800. And I remembered, the origional RAT was the first Pedal, I´d ever tried, as I played a 76 LesPaul in a RAT in a FullStack Plexi of my Unkle. I thought about: "Go original vintage, if the Vibe is first, go for Black Sectret Moeer, if it have to be cheap, Go Wampler, if you wants to be Mini and more Flexible or go for JHS "10 RATs in a box". I watched tons of UA-cam-Videos and at the End, ProCo litl RAT is for me the marriage of Vintage and Mini. Look at TC electronic Toneprint technology: The Pedals are in other Ballpark but to handle it, is TC-like. Makes that sence for you now?
I think that the modeling world, sampling, and capturing is the new thing, and when it is perfected, all the old studio gear will sound identical to the old tube or analog gear we cant afford, so it is an exiting time for me a 50 year veteran to the guitar. Thanks Joey for what you do. I love your playing and your tone is "KILLER" sho us how you dial it in on an episode. 🤪
Yes, consumerism run amok.
I got nothing against anyone’s pedal collection. Or collecting in general. But when it comes to playing these… you could use whatever.
I totally agree with you.
Now I need to hear your demo of the TC Spark boost !
Haha! It sounds… like anything really! 😂
When I think about guitar innovations, I think about the Boss synthesizers. Those are crazy but not all that popular.
Yes, Boss is quite innovative for an old, traditional company. EHX also brings out interesting new pedals and re-issues. I don't see MXR fading away.
True. EHX has some incredible stuff. Among the other 1500 pedal companies, they will probably be an exception, like Meris, Chase Bliss, Earthquaker…
@@joeyjooones Yes, JHS, Wampler, Strymon...
@@joeyjooonesthe mel9 and the micropog put EHX on another level from all those other brands
You bring up some valid points... however I would present that more selection is always better than a market where it's slim choice. The solution in my view is simple... Consumers should simply buy the pedals that do stand out from the crowd to them. Example of a few stand out pedals I own are... Walrus Audio Lore Reverse Soundscape Generator. Walrus Audio Julia. Boss SL-2 Slicer. It's all about personal taste, but I find there are lots of stand out amazing pedals out here and I love the huge selection. Of course every company is going to have their own (somewhat similar version) of a distortion pedal for example. However I find that all part of the fun, exploring and discovering the subtle differences that each company does that just might make the difference in the exact tone you're looking for.
Good point!
I see what you're saying. the thing that might sway me to try a pedal is if it's a local maker, with some interesting ideas and high quality so it lasts. MI audio, Australian, makes a buff and boost pedal, similar to the tc idea, no bass and treble. it had a flat freq boost or mid bump boost or treble boost. i leave it on mid bump for solo's or cut in certain parts and that's the only drive option i have on top of my mesa rec amp drive options.
I originally wanted to include that in the video. Now that everyone makes all pedals, why not support your local pedal maker? He probably nails a tubescreamer circuit as good as anyone..
Bro, tell me the tc spark settings to make it sounds like Duke of tone?
I dont know about the exact settings (this was months ago), but I can get it to sound 97% like that. It's really not rocket science.
I personally don't feel like I ever need to see, try, or read about another 'overdrive' pedal again. Expensive or dirt cheap, the differences are miniscule and easily lost in a live mix. And yes, 90% of the time, a simple boost pedal will do the job just as well, if not better. Find one you like and get back to playing.
Exactly my sentiment. Thank you ❤️
yep , but it's not only pedals , it;s guitars , amps , modelers , plug ins or whatever guitarrelated thingy , form a low pricepoint to super expensive its out there by the millions , total overkill , in the end most guitarist use 3 - 5 different sounds during a gig so there is no need for all these "options " , maybe nice to fool around with at home while creating wierd sounds , but pratical for everyday gigging , i don;t think so .
You can't make that spark sound like a fuzz pedal..so now you are up to 2 pedals...but I do agree it's all a rehash.
I eventually settled on 1 distortion and 1 delay. End of buying.
Yeah they all sound the same. I really don’t get the pedal worship for things like Klons and King of Tone etc. They’re circuits every builder uses and in a blindfold test with proper EQ for tolerance differences, no guitar player can tell the difference within a category between a $400 and $40 pedal, and neither can the audience.
Pedal manufacturers cashing in on the covid guitar boom. That's the only thing i can think of, likewise though I can't see them all lasting. As a beginner myself I started looking and just as quick stopped. It's too confusing.
Totally! Covid has a lot to do with it. From what I hear from store owners though, the boom seems to be over, or it’s at least fading.
@@joeyjooones good news for me I'm only about a year in so it's not a fad 😎
hm, I think I need a new pedal now … the spark booster … ;)
Bien dicho, golpe bajo para la industria
Just need a TS 9 and a Rat,you can achieve literally any tone
Can we just count the known brands? 1500 sounds like a highly inflated number.
No, I dont feel overwhelmed, or underwhelmed, I am perfectly whelmed! I wish there was an affordable alternative to Electronic Audio Experiments drive pedals!! I get what you are saying though lol I actually think EQD is turning into a hipster beginner brand. Their last two pedals have been mono digital effects.
There is no actual innovation in pedals, guitars, tone woods, amps, music theory, guitar lessons and even guitar UA-cam channels and content for decades and I think most people can see that. But I guess you can look at them as a way to make the industry up and going and keep some of the good music alive longer, and also keep people entertained. Just like the videos you make, are they particularly innovative? I guess not, but do we still want to watch it? yes, demo that boost please.
I definitely feel the same way about UA-cam channels.. whenever you do something new though, it’s usually not being watched a lot. ;-)
NexT time do some sounds man … were not here for talks
I disagree with the notion that staying with tradition is unique to guitar.
In fact, most instruments haven't changed in hundreds of years: flute, piano, clarinet, violin, french horn, etc. E-drums pretty much just mimic a traditional drum set.
Synths, electric guitars and bases are some of the few instruments that HAVE evolved.
Thanks for your comment!
The instruments themselves have evolved - yes. We’re talking pedals though. And you can’t really scroll through any site of any manufacturer and find the same old same old in 90% of all cases.
Thanks for your comment!
The instruments themselves have evolved - yes. We’re talking pedals though. And you can’t really scroll through any site of any manufacturer and find the same old same old in 90% of all cases.
Overpriced and dont really sound that good