AVOID COILOVERS; Get LOWERING SPRINGS Instead?
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2023
- Why Josh, TCR Performance, doesn't recommend coilovers for most people and just save the money with lowering springs instead
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why the fuck i re-adjust my coilovers after dialing it perfectly?
Yeah just maintane them with wd40 😂
Coilovers were developed for racing so that springs and spring rates could be changed for differing tracks and/or conditions. Stance queens started using them to slam their suspension and now people think they have to have them without understanding that the same results can be achieved with adjustable shocks and lowered springs.
@@Retrobeemer im driving a 20 year old car to work and back lol, like most car people
@@TaylorGroat not wd40 use anti seize bro come on
I’m getting coilovers because my springs still leave a 1-2 inch gap and I now have a reverse rake making my front higher lol
I had the same problem on a 09 camry, small gap in the front and the rear was perfect. I installed the springs only and took it for an alignment
lowering springs on stock struts produce a terrible ride
Nice Springs plus nice struts will still be cheaper than nice coil overs
I’ve learned 😂
I agree 😢
100% agree. Worst ride ever. Every bump makes you think your car is going to break. Don’t do it.
@@Maddoggy2023True but anyone with some knowledge wouldn’t pair lowering springs with stock struts. You’d at least wanna change to a stiffer aftermarket. But at that point depending how much that’ll cost, you might as well just buy coilovers and be done with it 😆 What’s bad is if you lower them to the point of having no room for dampening then you basically defeat the purpose of having struts just for looks
The springs gave me whiplash so bad that I started remembering 2nd grades.
Now with coils, it’s smooth as butta.
I went from horse drawn carriage to oem-like suspension
What springs were those 😂😂
So you’ve spent all that money to make the ride soft? Ok gran
If you do just springs, replace the stocks struts and shocks with Bilstein. They are actually made for lowering springs, where stock are not. Makes a huge difference.
Exactly this.
Might as well get coil-overs then for the price
Yup, went through this on my Abarth. Coilovers were harsh and bouncy at the rear because of the twist beam and funky mounting points. Lowering springs slightly stiffer than stock and Koni Yellows fixed it right up
in general coilovers are a better option, one case where I would get springs is if your OEM shocks have electronic dampening adjustment and you want to retain that feature
I've had two different coilovers and both failed right after warranty expired. Plus, you have to send your blown coilover and wait for them to test and send yo ua new one, meaning you could be out of a ride for weeks. Just buy lowering springs and koni shocks
you dial in the coilovers how you like......with springs you just get what you get, and hope you like them. Also there are coils where you can adjust the damping. That is worth the price alone.
Depends on your oem struts and the weight of your car too. I had neuspeed lowering springs on my vw cc and the drop was ok but not worth how bouncy the ride was. thought I was in a CTS V again
I agree I want to lower my car and keep stock ride quality I think that would be so perfect. I don’t know why people want lower springs cause it drives so bad. My car bounces like a low rider and it’s not a good ride quality I have eibach with their struts and shocks. I heard HR ride just as bad.
Lowering springs aren't really saving you money when you think about it, if you are going to get the lowering springs then you would have to get the shocks to match otherwise the ride quality is going to be pretty garbage and when you buy the shocks you are paying about the same price as an entry level coilover lol
Cheap lowering springs are more comfortable than cheap coilovers 💯. And I just installed 35mm springs on 120k mile old stock shocks. Ride quality is fine tbh better than oem l. But obviously you bottom out abit sooner but still better than Cheap coilovers for handling and comfort.
Yeah most definitely, you might as well go the lowering spring route if you don’t plan on spending the extra money on a reputable brand! I’ve recently had some BC racing coilovers installed on my car and the ride quality is pretty good and it could handle corners sooo much better than before
What is bro on? I bought coilovers so i KNOW that i get the correct hight i want. I dont want to buy lowering springs just to not be happy and have to do it all over again. + coilovers where i live are basically the same price as lowering springs + you get a new shock.
you probably have a listening disability. he’s essentially saying, for MOST people, buying lowering springs is better than buying coilovers if its just to lower the car. unless youre tracking your car you really dont need coilovers. and if you need coilovers to get “correct height” than youre probably doing something wrong
Yup, you pay extra to avoid reverse rake. Any car guy knows this
This is the most accurate description in comparison.. thank you.
Loring Springs got some decent fitment really stiff love it wish I had quite over so I can raise it in the winter but it is what it is
what if your shocks need replaced?
idk I wouldn't agree with that generalization. I adjust mine monthly. Lowering spring WILL not give u tight fitment ever. If they do, ur ride quality is trash. I haven't seen anyone run coilovers at lowering spring height
Depends on which you get but I don’t know kind of makes sense and I have a mk6 Gti too, it’s a lot cheaper and a bit less work for the same thing
Damn. Great point .
I had suspension technique springs with KONI gas shocks . i switched to Megan Racing coilovers ( which many hate on) . not even comparable in ride quality. Megan Racing by far are better ! They have less travel which keeps the car much more stable at high cornering load and over large bumps. I have performance sway bars and few other suspension mods also , running about 3.5" of ride height to the floor of my 280z ,enough to get me over a speed bump, stiff but not a harsh ride at all.
I think coilovers are easier since you just pop them in and don’t have to compress the spring, remove the spring and put it back on.
This makes sense if you replace “coilover” with “adjustable perch”. Coilovers usually have that, but they have other advantages beyond that.
Springs can also mess up your shocks so you’ll end up needing new and peob improved ones within half the lifetime of coilovers at best
What's the best lowering springs for a chrysler 300 v8 2017
Sell the car
Anti seize
But Lowering Springs like Eibach and HR Ride really bad some people want to lower their car and keep stock Ride quality not ride like a low rider. there is got to be a system like that not ride almost like stock ride just like stock. I don’t see why there cannot be a system like that. My original springs in my car road really good if the ride quality was like that with lower springs, it’ll be perfect.
So if you want a good ride quality like stock, you shouldn’t get coilovers I thought coilovers like KW Pedders and QA Ride like stock. because lowering Springs ride really bad. I want my car lowered 1.4 inches in the front 1.5 in the back. This is gonna sound crazy, but I want stock ride quality. I don’t want to feel bump. I don’t know why somebody would want to feel every bump.No disrespect, but I want to have my car low without feeling every single bump and crack there is got to be a system out there where you can do that and keep stock Ride quality
Jokes on you, I adjust them almost every time I ride considering I live in a very poorly paved city. I either take my car out on mountain runs (lowered with a higher dampening rate) or raised up a little with a less aggressive dampening for a smoother ride in town.
Key word: Majority
@@californiaeveryday I know man, just let me flex a lil🤏
What coil overs are you ridin on? I have Eibach lowering springs with the struts and shocks and I’m very disappointed. I was told some coilovers like pedders KW and QA Ride, just as good as stock if not better that’s what I’m looking for I don’t want a stiff ride. I think it will be so cool to have your car lowered an inch and a half and still have stock ride quality if you think about it all of the newer cars ride really really well so why wouldn’t you want a lowering springs or coilovers to ride just like stock or better!! Again the new cars from 2010 all the way until now the system on those cars ride really really good so if you can have a lowering spring or coilover like that because they don’t bounce like the cars back in the 70s, I wish I had the ability to make some lowering springs and coilovers I would do it or coil over and lowering springs that rides just like stock for your car with a 2 inch air cup so you can raise it up if your car gets a flat tire.
Those people are getting coilovers for the wrong reason. If you wanna go low get springs. If you want to tune your handling better get adjustable coilovers
This guy is just misleading people to buy garbage lowering springs
ride quality.
but if i want bigger rims i can adjust 😈
Bro totally left out that you can have endless combinations of ride quality with coilovers. Lowering springs w stock struts give you one option - BAD!
W vid, and a W fucking guy
and that's why people like you get all your free swag so yeah
not everyone gets coilovers for racing
once you find that height and setting what more would most want?
i used to set mine twice annually
summer and winter with a few soft to hard setting for the dampers
it worked great
and oh i guess you don't live where the salt is eh or nice garage?
not everyone is able to freely spend
jus sayin
Naw, go with coilovers people 😂
Nah don’t listen to this advice. Coilovers will always be a better option if you want to spend the money.
Not every car can get lowering springs btw though
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about lol, first of all, I have coilovers on my car and I ain't constantly adjusting the ride height since that's the only thing mine do. And second of all not everybody buys $5000 suspension for "track" use when the car is a daily. Third of all, talking from personal experience springs make your car drive like shit, and many times they are ither too high or too low and gues what, you're going to have to take everything appart just to put the oems back in.
I run lowering springs and yes I agree it's better and very nice and cheap