I’ve always found this video very disturbing. I don’t know what in the world Shanann was making a video of here. I’m feeling mental, emotional abuse here. It gives me anxiety watching it. Shanann just standing there filming CeCe and CeCe looks like she’s feeling out mommies mood here. Is it nice mommy or mean mommy. She’s watching her closely and then gives a sweet little smile looking to hopefully put mommy in a good mood. But Shanann standing there just looking at CeCe saying …… mmmmh… hmmmm, mmmmh…..,,hmmmm in a very creepy way. I’m sorry but that was too strange, very weird. Something definitely was not right with that moment.
When one of your kids is yelling, It hurts, you stop doing whatever you and doing to check to see if the child is actually hurt or just saying it to get attention.
It’s called narcissism. SW had a severe case of it and NOBODY in her circle noticed because they are all narcissists too.. cuz they are all members of the “THRIVE” cult.
She is so cruel to Bella! She blatantly ignored her even to the point that she has distressed CeCe. I really think it's because Bella favors Chris not only in appearance but most likely in personality as well. She sees Bella as weak like her father. That really irritates her and she is so pissed off when Bella is needy. She's just a year older than Cece, she's still a baby! Especially in this video she seems very very young. I can see why she would start acting and speaking like Cece. She's hoping it will get her more attention to. The fact that she still wants her blankie shows you how young she is. Unbelievable!
I agree with you 💯. It makes sense now why she is so behind with that annoying baby talk and growling noises. Whatever the case, Bella had a lot going on and was incredibly jealous and needy. When CeCe would get attention she would throw herself around, or start whining anything to pull the focus right back to her. Poor Shannan
@@ChristyAnne-to7li you ever saw the video of Bella talking about missing her grandparents? She’s doing that annoying ass vocal fry whine talk the entire time and saying she wants her grandparents. But you can literally see her smile several times. That’s almost terrifying. I know that all kids “manipulate” to an extent. Learning about boundaries and all of that. But what I find extremely disturbing is that usually kids aren’t consciously aware of what they are doing. They’re just learning the world and boundaries. But Bella smiles like she knows exactly what she’s doing. She seems very pleased with herself that her fake sadness is getting her what she wants and that speaks to logic and forethought.
I agree with you 💯. Im so happy I'm not the only one that sees it. There is something very off and strange about that kid. She liked to hurt CeCe when Shannan wasn't looking. @@brookemahan8063
@nancyminui91...☆ I know. Bella was alitte carbon copy of Chris. They've shown his baby and toddler pictures. I'm sure she did remind Shannan of him. And CeCe resembled Shannan in the face except she was blonde. I don't understand Chris not having a bond with Bella when she was so much like him. But then....I don't understand a lot about him. Or Shannan.
What I feel and see in these videos is sadness and emptiness, when I watch Shannan videos I often get this sadness coming from her. The home seems empty, I do not know what is it about the home but it feels empty, cold. The home is not inviting nor comfortable.
Everyone including the police said the home was out of place to have 2 toddlers. It was a staged home. Keeping up with the Jones's. I for one can't stand her voice. And no, I don't think she or the girls deserved to be killed but I can certainly see why Chris wanted them gone. Chris had zero say. He could even have a say in how he wanted the home to look or hang up a photo.
@@poodee9395 Shanan's behaviors came from a place of insecurity, even her domineering attitude toward Chris came from a place where she needed to have control. People have mentioned that her father was an alcoholic, and her early home life must it been chaotic. Cyndi Watts stated that Shanna's mother in the first 5 mnts of meeting her mentioned his alcoholism. I can only imagen the stress Shannan must it felt growing up. When you come from such an unstable environment, you want to control everything around you including those around you. This is what rubs many people the wrong way when it comes to Shannan. She was trying so hard to be nothing like her parents. In one video in NC when they are visiting, I think her mother is talking in the background and you can tell Shannan's real feelings toward them come up. Her tone of voice changes and tries to correct her mother. That says a lot about Shannan's family dynamics. This is why is so important for us to heal and become aware of why we are responding to the world in a certain manner. Shannan become aware of this right before she passed, she understood how unbalanced her relationship was with Chris. She was willing to see herself and accept her shortcomings and make Pro solutions. Chris decided to make an antisocial solution, kill his family. All of us have the right to redemption, including despicable Chris :)
@@jackiemederos3138 interesting comment. Thank you for your input. Both my parents were placed onto foster care at a very young age. Both went through all different situation and they both chose not to live that past and live their life. Not what they were subject too. Its truly sad she didnt catch what most see looking in. She was too selfish and self involved to have children. Chris too. Both mentally immature.
@@poodee9395 Totally, what most people see is the disconnection she had toward others. The fear of failure triumphed over anything else; however, she was not aware of it. Most of us have a blind spot, we do not have the capacity to see that the trouble we are seeing in others is what we have created (we project our own demons). It really hurts when we actually see ourselves but we can also grow. I think Shannan would have matured more. Very sorry to hear about your parents, I am assuming, they tried to give you everything, and tried very hard to give you the life they never had.
When the social media audience takes more place in your life than your husband - then there is something completley wrong in your marriage. And no, this is no excuse for what happened. What I want to say: If anonymous watchers are so important for you like nothing else, then social media is a kind of self therapy - but does not work. Shanann talks in her videos like a person talks to a psychotherapist. She did not seperate: Time with her husband, time with her kids, time with the whole family, working time - and time with a psychotherapist (would have been good). She mixed it all up and did not notice that nothing of it worked.
If Chris's account of her spending is true, Shannan would've been better off as a stay at home mum without working. And I'm not sure why she was the one in charge of all their money if she landed them in bankruptcy twice.
I bet Bella was locked in her room and had to go to the bathroom therefore screaming it hurts. SW was obsessed with filming and not so concerned about her children
“She’s a monster!!” “She doesn’t stop!” “She’s a monster!!” Kids BARELY being active. Shannan recording her kids during the 3 hours a day she watched them trying to portray her kids as uncontrollable and her life as soooo stressful is ridiculous
Any mom that derives pleasure from filming their abuse and gaslighting of her children, starves them, locks them in their room for 12 hours, unable to go to the bathroom is NOT a good mom. I cant believe that you, who sees what she does, would say that. This is why children keep getting abused = because no one calls out the parent doing it, ir turns her in or tries to talk to the parent. Look at that poor Montgomery child. If u see abuse, help save them.
How anyone spend so much time and energy watching someone else’s home video over & over, analyzing it w editing headphones w the goal of criticizing and condemning the parenting of a mother who is dead and gone? Shannan was murdered and dumped half naked in a lil hole in the dirt by her own husband whom she trusted and was faithful to. He left her to rot face down in her grave in the hot August sun while she expelled her unborn son from her womb Why would you want to put effort into degrading her any further? Have some decency. Let the woman Rest In Peace already.
Thank you 👏 she’s not here to defend herself as parents we never stop learning no parent out here is perfect but that woman tried and that’s the principle don’t speak on the dead.
I believe Shannan was just as busy when her phone was off as it was when it was on. Yes, she was on the phone alot but not all the time. When the camera is on she's just as busy as most stay at home moms are, that's what we do. We don't have cell phones to record our daily lives as Shannan did..It's a hectic life, working as hard as she did. She had her monster husband to care for as he was useless doing anything without being directed, and 2 busy little kids, plus her buisness to run. To be critical about the girls behavior while Shannan was Thriving, is pointless because we have no idea what's happening and the goings on before the camera started rolling. But when it's on we judge and dissect every thing the kids are saying and Shannans attentiveness or lack of while juggling the girls and working. Not sure what the point of this video actually is.
The point is: Lessons learned- Not whose to blame- There is no blame game, this is the most unspeakable crime! Simpley put- Caution with relationships!
I totally agree with you .They are sick in the head to do these videos and trying to make a living out of this poor woman and children it needs removed.
Do good moms send their kids to daycare when they are home all day anyways? You don't even have to be a mom to do that? She didn't deserve to die but she wasn't some fantastic mother! All she does is complain about them and almost every video they are in they are begging for food to no avail.
@AMAZING TUTORIALS BY ANNA if you don't bring your kids around other kids thats another issue! Its also what school is for!!! Any self respecting parent doesn't pay others to raise their kids!!!! She was a joke of a parent in that aspect!
@Rachael Nelson It sounds like you need to go back to school with that horrible grammar. And that isn't what "normal mothers do"; I raised my kids....I never shoved them in an expensive daycare while I was at home all day, calling it "school". Small children should be at home with their mother, if her ass is at home everyday.
@Rachael Nelson well it’s amazing how the rest of us did just fine being home with our mother until kindergarten. When you have a sibling to play with especially.
I don’t think that there is anything remotely unusual about sending your kids to preschool. Where I live in NYC, most people send their kids to preschool programs. It’s encouraged and recommended by the state on top of being a great way to expand their horizons and make an easier adjustment to kindergarten. However, if you can’t afford the tuition and you are financially in dire straits, it fails to make sense. I don’t think that Shannan genuinely enjoyed being with her children. She seemed to view it as an unpleasant chore, instead of having fun with it. She seemed to think that her kids were a drain,and complained about them excessively. Therefore, I think that it’s really good that the girls were not in her care all day. I think she was actually somewhat abusive to them when she was with them and I think their sleep schedules , with 3-4 hour daily naps were patently insane for kids their age!
When I saw the awful video of the girls crying at the breakfast bar, making Christmas cookies I think it was, I couldn't believe how badly Shanann came across. I kept thinking 'neither of these poor babies survived those parents'. Neither parent stopped this from happening - they utterly failed those innocent girls.
@@WattsTheObsession Whose tragically short little lives you are HAPPY to exploit picking apart happy family videos looking for “signs” of child abuser by Shannan who CLEARLY adored them as much as they loved her. Funny how you don’t “analyze” videos of their SOCIOPATHIC father who SMOTHERED THE LIFE OUT of those precious babies that YOU spend a bizarre amount of time watching trying to find abuse WHERE NONE EXISTS and “speaking” for them in your CREEPY baby voice!! Instead you’d rather DEFAME Shannan!
Seems those “ followers” she had , worshipped her. They were “ buying “ the lifestyle, Which at its roots were “ I want to be you” They fall for the illusion of I want the husband, children, cars, house, vacations, that seemed to them to be attainable if you bought , ate, wore, “ lived” the Thrive lifestyle
A lot of these "internet celebrities" are practically worshipped by their fans. So they're blinded by adoration. Which is....weird. The whole "family on social media" thing is bizarre.
I agree. And I wish someone would have said to her when she was cutting Bella’s hair…”I thought Bella was begging for long hair, so why are you cutting it? As a matter of fact, you just cut it 2 weeks ago. Leave her hair alone and let it grow!”
@@missyann7588 Exactly! There were many other videos that she was posting for Thrive while she either abused or neglected her kids. Both of them! I wondered why no one would say anything.
It seems like SW likes getting CeCe's hopes up of getting out of the crib just to tell her NO ma'am. Like a sick pleasure of some sort. Why ignore a child calling for you just to record your other jumping in their crib for sooo long...smh
@@girlygirl1890 I think Shanann would do “these sort of things” to pretend to the viewers that she had her hands full with 2 daughters and making out as if she’s some sort of a super mother who stays cool, calm and collected no matter how much Bella and Cece played up. It was all an act, I’ve lost count over the years with the amount of times she either ignored the girls or deliberately made them upset for long periods of time just so she could point to the Thrive patch. “Look at me, I’m a mum who can tolerate anything.” Once that camera was turned off, I bet the girls got into trouble. Look how she reacted after her and Cindy had the argument over the ice cream, Cindy went to get her hair done leaving Sw and the girls at home. While Cindy was out SW phoned her and basically blew her up for “leaving her alone with her own 2 daughters”! They’re her daughters but she expected Cindy to look after them. And she wanted another baby when she couldn’t handle 2 toddlers. From what I’ve seen over the years the girls got upset because that bloody camera was on all the time, SW paid more attention to her Thrive colleagues, instead of giving the girls comfort, she would continue filming, didn’t matter if the girls were in danger of hurting themselves. She never played with the girls, they would have been so bored! And they weren’t allowed to play with their toys because then they would be chastised for the mess. In all the FB videos, she never took them shopping, to the park, to the swimming pool, for a walk UNLESS it was with her parents or Chris’s parents. My heart breaks for them all, particularly Bella and Cece, during their very short life they seemed to fear their own mother, especially Bella.
I don’t think she was a good person bc she had stolen from her old employer and had cheated on her ex husband- she had to show the world she existed in this fake, perfect life. She worked for a Ponzi scheme company & made her kids practice and perform for the camera. Honestly, her videos disgust me and I can’t stand when ppl automatically say someone was “sooo beautiful and such a wonderful person,” just bc they died. She isolated Chris from his family- shown in the texts bc his mom gave her ice cream to which there’s conflict on how “allergic she was,” as it was said that she just hates nuts.. She spoke super negatively to Chris about his parents and I DARE someone to speak negatively about mine. I know my parents flaws and every1 can improve but if u love me, then u have to show respect for the ppl who made me. My mother has pissed me off when it came to my child but to banish her is extreme. She used her illnesss consistently to garner sympathy. The most cringe videos are the ones in the car where u can see her kids are only singing bc she’s forcing them to and when she reveals to Chris they’re pregnant again on camera. His expression shows he was not happy. I think this is what happened. She came home and Chris told her he didn’t love her and didn’t want to be with her. I think they fought verbally and from her own vindictiveness shown to her parents- she probably threatened him with custody or to even ruin him. I think he was fed up and she saw he didn’t love her anymore so during those threats he choked her. I think bc her perfect world was fake and falling apart esp bc she had faked it for FB- she didn’t fight back. I think at that point, he looked at his kids as not his kids but an extension of Shannan, a woman he couldn’t stand. They were the reminder of her. He killed them next. I don’t believe it had anything to do with the affair. I think the affair is what catapulted him into hating his life. Also, they were super broke but she was online trying to sell her success. I hate ppl who exploit their kids and lie online bc there’s dumbasses that believe ppl like her and feel bad abt their lives. Truly happy ppl don’t have to post it. It’s like those perfect all out wedding videos- u know they’re not truly happy.
I totally agree !!! She should have put her energy into hearts and relationships instead of trying so hard to make them all LOOK in one accord with clothing !!!! On the inside there was no love and no time for reality !!! What a shame !!!!
You said everything perfectly and listed every bullet point that I and I'm sure many other people feel thank you! I was going to comment but you literally took the words out of my mouth
It seems strange to film CeCe for so long in this clip. Is CeCe jumping because she wants her mother to pick her up? What exactly is going on here? And poor Bella calling Mommy for such a long time with nothing more than an "ok, baby" response. It's almost as Bella's request for help didn't matter. This isn't the first time that I have seen sweet Bella's requests ignored.
@@karengirl52 don’t forget Cw is the one that shoved them down into those big Oil tanks which took skin off Bella & CeCe,s. Back side.. and put a pillow over there face to kill them before that … and Poor Bella was begging for her life…. Can you imagine the Horror he put Bella through by killing her mother and sister in front of her before he killed her to…. So before you make snide remarks about shannann and how she raised her kids think about..
@@sassygirl5422 How can no one “think” about this case or forget it? Just because people don’t think or feel what you do, or agree with you doesn’t make them wrong- we’re all our own person with our very own thoughts, opinions, and expressions. Of course we all think about it! But the truth is she did post her life and her family’s lives 24/7- all the videos are out for the world to see as she obviously wanted- why else does anyone post things without a “private” status- people see what she posted, it’s there to see as well as herself as a parent and person she was. No one’s making anything up- she put it out there. We all see what she put out here- no one is perfect or a saint period- wether they’re here or they’re gone. It’s life and a hard truth. You don’t have to agree with anyone, feel or think like anyone- And we’re all entitled to our own opinions, thoughts, and feelings. That doesn’t involve you or what you feel or think. 🙏🏼 RIP to SW and her innocent children. And may he suffer every second and rot in his cell every second! He’s an evil, demented monster! He doesn’t deserve to live at all! I don’t think he was ever a genuine good guy- I think he was always a dark, evil POS- and NK just brought that evil darkness out to light and exposed it and his true self! May he rot in h*ll!
She was a weirdo ,she put them to bed at 630 she didn't let the girls run there energy out ,this is horrible those poor girls speech wasn't good at the time of there perspective ages ,Shannon was a lunatic who drove chris to silent insanity!!!
The girls went to bed from 6:30pm to 6:30am. They would lock their jack and Jill bathroom of the girls. They were not allowed to get up or go to the bathroom and they even would lock them in their bedrooms. Shannan and Chris had a key. They were not allowed to sleep with stuffed animals and a loud noise machine that clearly causes Cece stress. You can see her putting her blanket over her head to try to drown out the sound.
These girls were scared of their own shadows. And she wouldn’t even let them share a room. They could have comforted each other at night. My sister and I did. Some of my best memories of my sister are when we shared a room. Shannon deprived them of that.
Grandma said Shannan medicated each night before bed. She inquired and Shannan said it was Tylenol but I'm betting it was melatonin. Or God forbid Tylenol PM. There is no reason little ones would need Tylenol every night.
Heartbreaking. Two lovely and innocent children murdered by their father…unthinkable. I do wish their mother didn’t constantly film them and their lives at home. She was not perfect, but didn’t deserve this horrible ending. I think Chris literally snapped. It’s all incredibly tragic.
I used to be just like these women who are literally blind to Shanann's cruelty. It pains me to see these girls hurt like they do and suffering. Shannan should not have died but we don't know what the whole story was. She is obviously guilty of abuse and neglect of these precious children. No one spoke up for them when they were alive so there are many of us who believe they deserve a voice in it after their death. I have always spoken up for those who have no voice of their own and I will continue to do so even if these girls are no longer alive. They should not have had to suffer as much as they did at their mother's hands when they were alive. If you can't see the pain in their face you are blind!
@@nancyminui9108 Oh so you believe she killed her daughters??? Because you seem to consider her strict and irrespective treatment worse than ending their lives forever.
It’s very difficult to watch these videos… anyone who thinks Shanaan was some kind of supermom is delusional. And NO… nobody is saying that she deserved to die for the love of God, but this is NOT normal. Those poor kids spent more time in bed than anywhere else. Who videos their child like this after a nap, especially when your other child is desperately calling for you in the other room??? I just want to puke when Shanaan keeps standing there telling Cece “No, no… no, no” and then keeps absentmindedly telling Bella “Okay… okay sweetheart” when she is literally yelling “”HURRY!!!” And poor Cece is full of energy and wanting to get out of that dark room and go play and see what’s wrong with Bella as well.
@@ArkadiaTube nobody is “raging.” People don’t automatically become promoted to sainthood just because they die. Being dead doesn’t erase the things we did when we were alive. The Watts case is a cautionary tale on many levels. People continue to discuss it not only because it’s horrific but also because we have not been told the entire truth.
@@leeprimeau7912 okay. So let’s tear the dead woman apart who isn’t here to speak for herself and call it a life lesson? I don’t understand the purpose of this exercise. She has no voice because he took it from her. I don’t hear her actual family and friends calling her a horrible mother. Just internet strangers analysing her Facebook posts as if that’s the whole picture of who she was.
Why would you keep filming when your daughter is calling you enough times for help I don’t get it I really feel for Bella She was hard to understand for a child at her age and that poor girl just wanted long hair Shannon would say In her filming that people thought Bella was a boy 😢
I'm no licensed expert, but that Shanann certainly seemed to exhibit Narcisstic Mother Syndrome. Those mothers always want to be in a constant beauty competition with their daughters!!!!
This video made me almost as uncomfortable as the Santa clause video. When Cece was literally having a nervous breakdown because she was terrified about a fat bearded stranger in their home and her mom just ignores her for soooo long. I can’t stand my son crying for even a few seconds before I scoop him up. Yes I know that’s babying him but idc. I’d rather him know I will be there if he’s scared or uncomfortable or sad rather than, if I cry mommy will just ignore me. I bet she did the cry it out method with the girls. It breaks my heart that anyone could do that to a baby, but for some reason these videos give me the vibe that she was the type to do that.
I’m just so glad that phones weren’t around when my boys were young. I had a video camera and an actual camera. Now I have pictures, and some clips of the kids when they were growing up…but I was always 100% present for my kids, and the videos were for me and my husband alone. Live in the moment people…PUT DOWN YOUR PHONES!🌹🌹🌹
Absolutely no reason for them to get murdered, its truly heartbreaking. But her constantly being online, livestreaming, filming everything is kinda scary.
I don't think these are all live stream some of these are just home videos. this looks like a stationary camera. so it was probably just a motion-activated nursery cam. let it go let them rest in peace. these little girls were not being abused for God's sake.
Rain machines and black out curtains for 2 toddlers with asthma and 4 or 5 other potentially deadly conditions? Wouldn’t it be helpful to hear and see without total reliance on a monitor? This wasn’t just Thrive’s problem, there’s something wrong here.
Wow- that's a really good point. I never thought of this from the perspective you raise. And being about to observe and monitor your babies when health is unstable is of critical importance- second to none as compared to ANYTHING! Thanks for the comment.
Nada justifica al asesino matar. Por dejar a la bebé en la cuna. Yo muchas veces deje a mis hijos en su cuna cuando cocinaba o iba al baño. Eso no significa que vas a matarme por eso.
I don’t think the kids had asthma or the other ailments she claimed they had. It’s a known fact she doctor shopped. There are instances that happened where SW didn’t react when she should have because it could have been life threatening situation.
That anguished cry for her mother at 19:07 . Bella is lost in the wilderness of Sartre's existential work "Being and Nothingness". Bella's sweet little face of content being held in her mother's arms is dashed away the next moment when put down without a thought. Again, Sartre "Being and Nothingness". Bella didn't stand a chance., She was 100% at the mercy of everything besides herself. A disposable prop in some sadistic play.
I'm shocked at these comments. Getting a video is only a brief snap shot of the life these kids led. They were OBVIOUSLY happy, easily reaching their milestones and they were loved by the very person you all are criticising when you know NOTHING about her life. I work in social services and I can tell you that neglected children so not act like Bella and CeCe. Scrutinizing and criticism of a Mother who cannot defend herself is sick
Right! They were were obviously well cared for and very loved children. Nobody is a perfect mother. If the only thing she was doing wrong, was being on her phone and social media too much, then that is nothing compared to what lots of other kids have to put up with. Chris Watts is the only one that deserves judgement.
Their horrific ending automatically catapulted Shannan to the best mother to ever exist. Realistically she was probably just an average "good mom" like the rest of us. Most people don't video their lives like she did or have a need to be on display like that. I wonder if she "wore the pants" in that marriage and Chris didn't think he could leave, but felt he had to escape. What happened is just unbelievable.
CW is a murderous Coward, *not* a man. He has a weird Mom & sister who were oddly possessive of him, and who bullied Shanann mercilessly in their efforts to destroy that marriage. Growing up w/ people like that obviously impacted his development in some terrible way. Shanann did seem to have a strong & direct personality. Which is Not a criticism - she was just more driven & outgoing than he was. With a better mate, she'd have been safe. But for a narcissist like him, that combo - shiny personality & being the go-getter that he was Not - likely triggered his deep-seated insecurities. I'd venture to guess that introverted narcs are the deadliest type. Craving the spotlight, but simultaneously uncomfortable with it, they're drawn to those who attract it naturally. Then, they punish them for it, for simply being their charming & popular selves. Notice that his bimbo mistress - who knew he was married - Also basically ruled him. She pressured him into committing this Atrocious crime. She led him around by his "little brain", and it only took her a short time working on him before he annihilated the very people he was supposed to Love & Protect. That's how incredibly WEAK he was, and is. Glad he's behind bars for the rest of his life. I hope memories of his adorable babies drive him to the deepest despair. He has loads of time to think about them now.
He is a grown man, right? If he was unhappy he could have left. You are making excuses for a man who cheated on his pregnant wife and then murdered her and his two daughters.
@@lktzu2821 There is absolutely NO excuse for what he did. My God, how could there be? Reasons are Not excuses. The reason my neighbor's home was burglarized was because the shites needed drug money. That did not excuse their actions. They did time for their crime. There's a reason for everything, including what Watts did. He will never be excused.
I have watched videos of myself and my 2 girls interacting and I was appalled at a couple of my own actions. Let's not judge her like this. She can't defend herself and her life was taken. This shouldn't be happening.
Obviously it's tragic how they died but just because she was murdered doesn't make her a saint... she had a lot of problems and skeletons in her closet
We should be able to have a discussion and not be shamed for “judging”. That’s not what I’m doing. If one parent watches this and changes the way they handle their families on social, these conversations won’t be in vain.
I wonder what was the point of her even recording that video???!!!! Wtf!! Grab the baby out of the crib and go help your other child. Some video Shanann made just blow my mind.
Shannon (her birth name) drove her family to financial ruin with her ridiculously flashy and expensive tastes and obvious shopping addiction, manipulated her entire family, mentally and verbally abused her husband, used her family as her own personal puppets with no regard for their boundaries or feelings, and had her daughters convinced and accepting of the idea that they were plagued with mental and emotional and physical illnesses. The fact that her life was cruelly snuffed out does not change the fact that she was not a nice person. She was extremely selfish. Those beautiful children did not deserve to pay the price for their mother and father's mental illnesses and soul sicknesses.
@@DM_21 I understand it all, been following this case closely since I saw CW standing at his porch and pleading for their safe return ,,, and grinning. Disgusting, . They both had mental issues
@@samg3730 it was sad and sickening. So many 'if onlys'. If only Chris did not allow the devil to get a stronghold in his life. If onlly Shannon had told Chris that she began to contemplate her bad behavior and wanted to change. If only they had gone to seek marriage counseling rather than had a time if seperation (that Shannon may have initiated as a way to begin releasing control and perhaps to facilitate somewhat of a reset on their marriage and family dynamic). This is an incredibly gripping and heartbreaking tragedy.
This video always pissed me off. It’s hard for me to watch. Put down the Effin phone and take care of your kids. To make Cece wait that long to get out of crib and make Bella knowing she was locked in her room. Like what was the point of her even recording this ?
Her poor child was begging for her but she refused to put the phone down to actually take care of her children. Sham ann should of never had children that she did not want to care for.
I don't understand why any of this is going on! Why does this even happen? Control? I'm having a difficult time with why anyone would talk to there kids in this manner! Why can't she just get out?
So many kids are being exploited on social media and it needs to stop. They are being forced to help bring in money to support their family by constantly having a camera in their face. I am not saying Shannann deserved what happened to her. I believe she had good intentions & loved her kids.
Lessons learned by those who pay attention. 1-Not all husbands want their life on social media. 2-The more we post our perfect life on social media, the more someone out there will want it or ruin it. 3-If Shannan had a tough time with two babies Why does she post a "Woops We did it again"? -kids should never be used as social, religious OR entrapment Pawns!
well channels on youtube are also exploiting this beautiful family don't you think by posting negative videos on here to gain views and subs ..so sad that people are doing this
thank you so much for your comment. It means a lot to me. I’ve caught a lot of hate for this video but I’m keeping it up because I standby it. Thank you so much.
I wonder how Bella felt about CeCe getting all the attention. It doesn’t seem like she’s resentful of her. Nobody seems to ever be paying attention to Bella. I don’t see Shannan in Bella’s room after a nap, video taping her. It’s always about CeCe. Poor Bella. I also wonder why there speech is so delayed. The parents did only spend about 2 hours with them a day. $500 a week for school. You would think that would have helped. Around here we have a free program for delayed kids called early intervention.
It breaks my ever-loving heart to see these little girls knowing what they went through. they're tragic ending 😢. I'm obsessed with this case because I feel that Justice hasn't been fully served. The fact that CW is still breathing air makes my brain want to explode.
& the LIAR WITCH That is free and clear doing whatever the heck she wants to wreck someone else’s life at any moment! Don’t tell me that ghastly woman was not involved. She was a dare her car was there you think pathetic Chris Watts could’ve done this on his own absolutely not! They both should’ve got the needle!
I think Bella was a very jealous insecure child, I think Shannan was very stressed out by the dynamic between Bella and CeCe. Unfortunately Bella was incredibly insecure and jealous of any attention given to CeCe so she was constantly placing demands on Shannans attention through tantrums, crying fits, throwing herself in front of CeCe and so on.. IMO alot of people on this channel feel that Shannan should constantly cater to Bella's many many demands right away without questions. I had 2 sisters and my mom would always say you can't always get what you want . So in this situation insecure Bella was having a meltdown knowing that CeCe was getting Shannans attention and screaming hurry hurry. This is my opinion. Shannan is trying to teach Bella you have a sister now and you can't always get what you want. Bellas constant neediness and pestering would have stressed me out too..
You are a sick twisted individual! People complain about others who speak out on Shannon's obvious abuse. But here you are criticizing a child for having needs! You are so wrong and a horrible excuse for a person and a mother! I certainly hope you don't have children! She was probably saying it hurts in reference to the rectal thermometer her mother stuck up her ass every night! Is that even necessary?
So many times I want to say “put the phone down and take care of your children who need you!!!” The “lives” can wait!!!! They went to bed at 6:30 every night. Couldn’t she do it then? She wouldn’t be able to show how “busy” her life was if she didn’t film with them though.
I also wanted to say please put phone down let the babies live free don’t direct them what to do let them play I’m not condoning what the monster did understand that
I heard somewhere they took all sorts of meds before bed too. I wonder if any were to help them sleep. They took naps and a bedtime of 6:30 is a lot of sleep for kids.
I was mistreated by my Mother in a very similar fashion. I was made fun of told I was the ugliest kid my mother had. I needed glasses when I was eight, my Mom not only called me a 4 eyed monster, but she also called me fatsie. Not an ounce of fat did I have. I was far from ugly. It took a lifetime for me to realize my Mom was not well. It caused me to make many decisions in my life that I regret. I always felt sort of a kinship to Bella, did not know why, until now, Oh and about the hair....my mom kept my hair short, I never understood why, my sisters got all the pretty things, I got hand me downs, and the weird thing about that was, I was the oldest.
thank you so much for sharing your experience and I’m sorry that you had to endure that. I know that you did not deserve it. As I was reading your message it occurred to me that perhaps I’ve always been so sensitive to the treatment of Bella, because I relate in some similar ways to what you described here. So I guess we are all kindred spirits, you me and Bella and the droves of other women and people who have that shared experience. Of all the many comments I’ve read about this case, it’s yours that spoke to me for some reason. Thank you for your honesty. I hope that today you realize how deserving you are of everything wonderful and beautiful and life and that you are wonderful and beautiful yourself. ❤️Kelly
I can't believe that some people can watch these videos of how cruel shannan is to her children like ignoring Bella when she's crying out that she hurts to the point where CC completely shuts down and looks so emotionally distraught when she cannot do anything to help her sister! Those people are the sick ones that don't see what's going on here. I don't believe that anyone deserves to be murdered for being a narcissist but to see their abuse only begs for one to question her motives and mental health. It hurts me to see how she hurts those children. People that don't see it are heartless. These are children here and she's a grown woman. There's no excuse for child abuse or neglect! Nothing at all! Ask yourself would you feel comfortable treating your children like this and seeing the same reactions on their face? If you find it acceptable there's something wrong with you!
All the people in the comments whining like babies saying crap like 'Just let them rest in peace already'......You dont have to be here, just go away. People are obviously fascinated by this family and case and want to know as much as possible. Why does that bother you so much, why even click on these vids then. Just whining just to whine. Seriously get lost.
Well said. I can't believe Kelly has to deal with these comments. I haven't read entire thread but, wow. And super rude, to boot. I don't get it. Watts is where he belongs, but like it or not, there's huge interest in this case. Everything about it will be discussed for years. It's an important case and it behooves us, as a society, to understand as much as possible.
Teaching that mommy can’t be depended on to get me out of the crib when she clearly sees what I want to do, or go quickly to my sister who has been calling out for MOMMY, over & over & says it is hurting. IMO, possibly due to the daily rectal 🌡 in place that hurts. This is so upsetting to me as both an RN & mother. I would’ve picked up CeCe & said, “come on, let’s go check on your sister & see what Bella needs.” I can’t just gloss over this posted video. I have to wonder why she would post this as cute & fun. 💔😢
I totally agree with this comment. it’s hard for me to watch and understand and i really do believe there is an important lesson to be learned through the example… Thanks for taking time to comment.
I completely agree. She was neglecting and tormenting the children by filming them and by ignoring their needs. How she could refuse to attend to her child who kept crying out is something I cannot understand. I'm sure that the children could not understand it either. All she had to do was put the camera down and be a parent.
That rain machine I only heard about until now. It sounds like an old tv that has lost reception. It is an awful noise. That is torturous. Rain can sound so peaceful on some of the meditation sleep music I listen to. It doesn’t ever sound like this. This is more than white noise. It is forceful sensory torture. Yuck who would buy that junk???
I could feel the tension in this house when I watched these videos. The one where Shannan finally got her pro bars was a hard one to watch. I felt so sad for Bella. The one where they’re all baking is hard to watch too. Shannan always pretended things were perfect when she was LIVE but that family was far from perfect. Kids feel that tension too. They know something is off. Chris loved those girls so much and I just don’t understand how he could’ve killed Then like he did. I just don’t get it at all. May those babies rest in peace. ❤❤
GREAT POST...IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THE "LIVING LIFE ON FACE BOOK LIVE" AND THE ENSUING TENSION WAS A FACTOR..IT CAUSED THE MORAL FLAW IN HUSBAND/FATHER TO MANIFEST IN THE AFFIAR..IT ALSO CAUSED UNHAPPINESS AND CONFUSION IN THOSE POOR PRECIOUS CHILDREN..I HUMBLY BELIEVE THE CONSTANT LIVE STREAMING CONTRIBUTED IN A MORE SINISTER WAY AS WELL...WHEN ONE IS CONSTANTLY LIVING ONE'S LIFE ON LIVE STREAM ONE CAN NOT BE CERTAIN WHO IS ACTUALLY WATCHING ! IS IT POSSIBLE A CERTIAN PERSON WHO HAD TRIED AND FAILED AT AN M.L.M. FOUND THIS FAMILY THROUGH THE LIVE STREAMS?? IS IT POSSIBLE THIS PERSON GREW TO HATE THE MOM DOING THE LIVE STREAMING BECAUSE THE MOM APPEARED TO BE A TRUE SUCCESS AT M.L.M AND HAD THE PERFECT HOME ,PERFECT HUSBAND , PERFECT KIDS, ETC. ?? IS POSSIBLE THIS PERSON MADE IT HER MISSION TO MANUEVER INTO THE LIVES OF THIS FAMILY AFTER TARGETTING THEM THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND GOOD OLD GOOGLE?? IS IT POSSIBLE THIS PERSON WAS RESEARCHING THIS TARGETTED FAMILY FOR WELL OVER YEAR BEFORE THIS PERSON INJECTED HERSELF INTO THEIR LIVES BY BECOMING EMPLOYED AT THE SAME PLACE THE HAPLESS , WEAK WILLED HUSBAND WORKED.??.AND THEN OUT OF ALL THE SINGLE MEN IN THE AREA DECIDES TO CHOOSE THE MARRIED GUY TO GET WITH...WITH..IS IT POSSIBLE MIND CONTROL AND PERHAPS THE DARK ARTS WERE EMPLOYED MAKING THE WILLING HUSBAND/FATHER PREPARED TO DO THE DEMONCIALLY UNTHINKABLE?? THE OFFICIAL NARRITIVE TO THIS HORROR STORY IS THE HUSBAND/FATHER RIDDED HIMSELF OF HIS FAMILY IN THE MOST HORRIFIC OF WAYS SO HE COULD SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE WITH HIS MISTRESS ! SO AFTER LIVING A LIFE THAT WAS CRIME FREE HE COMMITTS HIS FIRST CRIME BY MURDERING HIS ENTIRE FAMILY AND PRE BORN SON IN A WAY THAT MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AWAY WITH, HE THEN GOES ON TO RAMBLE ON AND ON WITH THE POLICE WHEN HE DID NOT HAVE TOO, TAKES A POLYGRAPH TEST HE HAD NO CHANCE OF PASSING , NEVER SEEKS THE AID OF AN ATTORNEY BEFORE MEEKLY CONFESSING..IN OTHER WORDS HE DOES EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO ENSURE HE WOULD NEVER SEE HIS MISTRESS AGAIN !! THIS CASE MAKES NO SENSE ..IT APPEARS HE WAS NOT ALL THAT THRILLED WITH HIS WIFE OR HE WOULD HAVE NEVER CHEATED..BUT HE LOVED HIS DAUGHTERS..AS YOU KNOW MEN ARE GENETICALLY WIRED TO PROTECT THEIR BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN SPECIFICALLY AND ALL CHILDREN IN GENERAL THIS KEEPS OUR IMPERFECT HUMAN RACE GOING..SO WE ARE TO BELIEVE THE HUSBAD / FATHER MURDERS HIS CHILDREN SO HE COULD BE WITH HIS MISTRESS YET DOES SO IN A WAY THAT ENSURES HE WILL NEVER SEE HIS MISTRESS AGAIN AFTER CONFESSING TO THE CRIMES THREE DAYS AFTER HE COMMITTS THEM..?? NO I AM SORRY THIS CASE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME UNLESS ONE ALLOWS FOR MIND CONTROL..YES I BELIEVE THE HUSBAND / FATHER WILLING ALLOWED HIS MISTRESS WHO'S ONLY MOTIVE FOR HER ACTIONS WERE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE MOM AND ALL SHE LOVED TO PLACE HIM UNDER MIND CONTROL..! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THIS UGLY MYSTERY MAKES SENSE FOR ME ! SORRY FOR THE LONG REPLY !
@@cherylmcelveen2817 just curious who do you think did and what was their motive? For me it’s the motive. I get why Chris would want to kill Shanann, but I don’t get why he’d hurt the girls.
So hard to watch. Just put the phone away - get CeCe out… you’ve acknowledged that it’s time to get up and out of the crib, yet you’re standing there filming and not assisting her - then scolding and shaming her when she attempts to get herself out… being autonomous which is actually admirable, showing that she’s a “big girl” and can do so without help. Most parents would have quickly grabbed CeCe up, set her down and then rushed to check on the second child who’s begging for assistance and screaming in pain.
@@florencedagrossa3442 are you actually for real ???? Not a great parent ?? Their father murdered them and you’re here speaking ill of the dead !! Shame on you !! Disgusting!! You’re all that’s wrong in this world
Why is she forcing her toddler to stay held in a pen and filming it? Surely they have a big garden or room full of toys? Advice to any young women who dream of having kids and a fake rich lifestyle, make sure you have a solid career where you can work for yourself like a nutritionist, physio etc where you're not beholden to Pyramid scams!
She ended rhis insipid live video rather abruptly and said the dog would be fresking out. I wonder if the repo man was there for the unpaid furniture! Or pissibly CPS of she was there alone with the children and wasnt supposed to be. She was a loser of life
What was wrong with Shanaan filming her children's suffering day to day, poor cece is so stressed in that crib, who does this? Her mommy skills are all about strict rules, tight schedules, to many naps throughout the day, in bed by 6:30-7on, restricts their water intake, day care for a stay at home mom, really !!
Let's pick apart a murdered woman and her murdered children! ALL PARENTS make mistakes and by no means is there a perfect parent. My adult daughter is a kind and considerate well-adjusted young woman and I can tell you that if I had some of my tough parent days on video I could easily be criticized!
Shannon posted this on Facebook. It's all about control and let's put my children lives on Facebook. Shannon should have put her phone down those children were suffering
Some of us recognize that Shannan was more than just an imperfect mother. She was an extreme malignant narcissist who used her family as props and choreographed almost all her life on Facebook. Too many women believe her propaganda. She was a real sicko who deserved to be ignored, but not murdered!
@@lesliepickens nah it was that dirt clod she was married to that was the covert / malignant narcissist If you're informed enough you would know that a malignant narcissist is the type that actually enjoys bringing other people pain, and or that weaponizes their narcissism And they use the covert side to cover it up, to lure and ensnare innocent people... Make them think they are kind , charming, emotionally intelligent men or women and they are not as Chris Watts was not And it can take years to catch on to who they really are they keep it hidden well But behind closed doors I'm sure she was suffering, perplexing psychological things going on, I've lived with one of these types of men before unfortunately And for a long time you'll just do the best you can to cope, because it's just so perplexing, they are really like having another child... Yes I'm sure everything she did was affected.. And hell I know mothers that do all that stuff everyday, and they don't even sell thrive or belong to MLM.. Plenty of well-adjusted wonderful mothers everyday and it depends on what your idea of a wonderful mother is anyway What I want to know is who set the damn standard for that all of a sudden? I raised two boys 14 months apart, and like one of the other women mentioned earlier, if some of my tough days as a parent were to be scrutinized, I would be judged as well, so what I know I was a damn loving mother who did my very best, so much so that my children's psychological and otherwise well-being was so important to me But since I was raised in an abusive childhood and dysfunctional, I made sure to stay in therapy all those years, and constantly educated myself, on child psychology etc But I'll tell you one thing if I'd had the technology that Shannon had or some of these girls today I would have non-stop recorded my children come oh my God how I would love to look back over 20 years and hear my baby's voices, watch them as infants and toddlers on video!!! And dang right I would post it on Facebook for my other friends to see in fact as I said earlier Many normal mothers, who love their children dearly, that I personally know Post every single day wonderful things going on with their children in fact I have watched several family members and Friends children from birth to teenage years literally grow up on Facebook! And I just adore it! , I look forward to it, it makes me so happy to see the little infants and the toddlers and the stages they go through ,the cute little things they are wearing and doing saying! my God.... 🙄🙄🙄🙄 It's something that we do, it is the age that we live in, and she was doing nothing any more abnormal than any other mother out there is still doing to this day! So what, she was doing her job sometimes at the same time and included her family in it, big deal. I'm a lot like her, and I don't sell any type of thrive, or bive or hive or any other MLM But I like my environment to be clean , orderly, well decorated I'm creative and motivated, I do have an anxiety disorder with obsessive compulsive traits, which causes me to yes Want my environment even more orderly But it does not reflect that I am on the high end of the narcissistic spectrum, that I don't care about my children! , or that I was using my family as props to be perfectionistic for some reason Not at all, and I can provide copies of my psych eval for anyone who would like to see it. ,all I have is an anxiety disorder, no personality disorders, and I am not suffering from any type of mental illness Sometimes people with anxiety disorders, or who are just particular, get so unfairly judged it's ridiculous. Furthermore, we all have some narcissism to some degree or another... So what , most of us also have compassion and empathy for others and we don't let that narcissism make us so entitled and deranged that we think we can wipe out our whole family and get away with it just to get what we want. I think people should keep the focus on the real Disturbed person and not the victims.. In some negative light. I agree, most mothers out here that are seeing these disturbing extremely scrutinizing comments of this other mother, who can't even defend herself now who had her life taken away And they're all just..... Yawn.... Give us a break...🙄 And wondering if some of these people even have children at all? They don't seem to be speaking from a place of experience.. If they had they'd be far more understanding and clued in. Save the scrutiny for the predators and the real low lifes,and the actual problems in this world... Stop supporting them and basically sending the message that they are entitled to keep getting away with horrific crimes and abuse to others by bashing their victims that's just what they want! Sorry but it's those people who have consumed the Kool-Aid of the highly manipulative narcissistic types that want you to believe that the victims are in fact the abusers and the problematic ones. Some of us have actually seen and lived through bad mothering... S*** I wish I had a mother like Shannon. In my home children were seen and not heard, and it wasn't good if you got out of line.. So, I don't see anything in any of her videos that acted abusively., In most of her videos she's extremely loving and attentive, not all of the videos were about thrive, many times just enjoying an activity being extremely loving and patient with the girls There are times in every parent's life where we cannot have all of the perfect answers, perfect patients, and we all have days where, we are going to take care of something we want to get done first Period. Just that simple, and it does not mean we're abusive or neglectful at all, it means that we spend most of our lives attending to our children's needs putting them first as a priority, giving all of our energy and love and sometimes by gosh a parent is going to take a few minutes for themselves and the little child has to wait And no, not just one incident or even every once in awhile incident of that is going to damage that child psychologically Again the people saying this it just really indicates to me that they must not be raising children or have ever had children I loved my babies with everything, and I was very in tune to their psychological well-being, extremely mindful of that at all times however Depending on their ages, they learned patience and they learned to wait Of course being mindful of it being age appropriate, when they are developing their understanding of things, it's best to have a well-balanced approach Children have to be taught both that the parents will be attentive and that they can be trusted, and they will be there for them and at the same time children also have to start learning Discipline, patience, self-soothing, because when they go to school, if they don't learn these things they're going to expect the teacher to drop everything and be attentive strictly to only their needs, and they may go into the world unbalanced I know a grown man right now who is so emotionally disregulated, that he literally expects everyone to drop everything and be there for him instantly, this man has no clue how to self-soothe, Or entertain himself, he uses people for energy and entertainment And there is nothing worse than seeing a grown man who cannot sell soothe, who somehow missed these lessons in childhood or the balance was off with the parenting or some type of trauma This is where we start seeing real narcissism... On very high levels, I'm not sure how many people have lived with the depths of it or been close to it But it's a lot more deeper, darker, and emotionally regressed, than a lot of people are aware of Almost like middle-aged toddlers and they are so ashamed of it and feel so inferior that they keep it hidden well except behind closed doors you start picking up on it There's a lot more to high narcissism than just people taking selfies and flashing about.
@@lesliepickens sounds like Bella may have been using the bathroom... I know people have made up all kinds of theories about where Bella actually was whether she was in her bedroom something about locked in the bedroom come all this different crap But it makes more sense to me that the little girl was using the bathroom And I remember back when my boys were that age, exactly close in age like CC and Bella Sometimes they would be afraid of the toilet... And in fact my younger son had a terrible anxiety disorder growing up which he later outgrew He was very phobic, and sometimes he had irrational fears of things that weren't really happening And thank goodness I was experienced in anxiety disorders, suffering from it myself, and years and years of therapy and work research And so I was very careful with my child not to invalidate him or make him feel more anxiety And most of the time I would humor his irrational phobias, and help him through it very gently, and comfort him until it passed But there would be occasions where as a mother, I just could not indulge him at that time, for whatever reason... I'm a human being, and having two children, maybe it would be a day that I was hormonal, or didn't quite have the energy There would be some days that I just didn't stop drop and run and attend to it right that second It did not mean I didn't love my child, and that I was not on a regular basis most attentive to him and his needs because I was But I can totally see me standing in the bedroom filming my younger child if I'd had this technology... While giving my other child time to finish pooping! Which is seems exactly like what she was doing.. We are not behind closed doors with them, those people know their routines... It may have been that Bella was on the potty, and Shannon knew that she was finishing up, she was perfectly fine... And I didn't hear anything that sounded like" it hurts" But if she did say that, then I think we all know what that would indicate... And well there's not really much one can do about painful potty time... Yes we can drop what we're doing and run into comfort the child, as I'm sure she did every single time I did a lot of the same myself as I said, I would drop everything and be very attentive to both of my children when they needed it But if I knew in the back of my mind, exactly what my child was doing, come on she was a mother, she had radar she knows every voice tone, just like we do with our children and our pets I knew every single different voice tone of my child whether they were truly truly in an emergency or not Just like I know every distinct sound my dog makes and hell he can't even speak and express himself But I know the difference between my dog is not okay, and oh he's fine he's just whimpering and whining, or he just wants a treat or he actually really needs to go outside, or all kinds of different things we parents know our children, and I don't feel like it was anything in this particular video that was emergency enough to where she needed to drop everything and break her neck and get in there And I feel like if it had been, she would have done so the end. And sometimes we parents just flat out take too much time doing something else, we are human, we are going to be a little slow sometimes, we are going to put our kids off on occasion oh my God How many parents haven't done that? But for the most part as long as the child is attended to, on a regular basis and cared for then the child will be fine Wow I can't even believe the way people are taking this so so far out of context. That's why I'm thinking people that haven't had children because they just don't have the same insight as a real parent Hell my kid sat on the toilet before.... Calling to me it's that same voice tone, meanwhile with a comic book on his lap, and when I would get in there he'd be just fine... Just saying rather than bash her and not give her the benefit of the doubt as just another normal mother.. I don't get it.
I always picked my kids up right away out of their cots when they were little. I never stood filming them constantly telling them off. It's very sad they were murdered but shanann wasn't a good mum she was obsessed with her phone and her kids were not her number 1 priority
who the hell do you think you are? You have no facts no way these kids were recorded nonstop. Nor abused! While I am not a fan of constant filming and esp. not putting kids faces on social media. This witch talking about a dead mom & kids should be ashamed! You have no damn idea that kids don't show things like adults scientifically. Shame on you! Making money off lying about a great mom & kids.
@@nanali7245 Right. Film her, pick her up, and walk and talk and go see Bella. None of this is natural for the kids. Telling CeCe "No, ma'am" Yes. and MmmmmHmmmm. MmmmHmmmmm. I'm a full grown adult and I don't understand what she was trying to tell CeCe, teach her, or get her to do?
Everything's a performance. CeCe was very energetic, outgoing, expressive and played to the camera or to mommy's approval. Jump if mommy likes it. Whack-a-daddy (hitting her dad's head while sitting on his shoulders) was encouraged and CeCe decided to up the ante: she spit on CW's head. SW said right away, "No spitting!" And CeCe went back to hitting. So, no spitting. Not funny Okay hitting. Hitting ppl on their heads it FUN-NEE! SW seems more like the older cousin teaching the girls not good things. Encouraging them to do things that would be a problem for them socially. No hitting. No spitting. No biting. Oh, and Daddy, no annihilating your family for the girlfriend.
I do not see how Shannan/Shannon is not accountable for the way she parented and/or the extend to which she posted. 1) she wasn’t a young mom in her 20s 2) she was t in a situation where could could not work outside the home There are lots of moms in their 20s who cannot afford daycare so they have to try to find a way to make money at home. That is not Shannan/Shannon‘s situation. There is no excuse for what Chris did. Shannon is a victim of a heinous, horrible crime. But that does not absolve her of decisions and choices that she made . Bing the victim of a crime does not instantly wash away everything that you’ve done Shannon can be the victim of a vicious, horrible man and simultaneously be a poor mother. They are not mutually exclusive.
The fact that neither of the girls can speak properly was a huge clue to the neglect and abuse they dealt with. Bella looks so sad and defeated trying to keep up with cece the golden child myst of been sad and exhausting.
I agree, Isabella. Sadly. I wish they all had more time to enjoy life more, for longer, they all deserve it and so much more. How could anyone decide they have the right to take those lives? It’s mind boggling. Always will be.
Why is that sound machine so loud jeeze holy crap. And watching her torment her girls and film it makes me so uncomfortable. How do you ignore your baby while watching the other struggle to get out and help her sister just odd and cold
yikes. This is maddening. I don't even know why she is filming so much, it seems like all it is is the kids saying "put down the phone and play with me".
I can’t believe how long she Kepted saying to Bella that she’d be right there!!! To me this is totally sad 😢!!! Bella probably couldn’t get out of her bedroom!!! RIP!!! Two Precious Little Angels 👼 👼❤️🩹💔❤️🩹💔✅💯‼️🙏🙏!!!!
She used them kids as props! Anyone seen the Santa video. Or better yet the cookies video or even worse, eating in front of the girls, when they said they were hungry. Them kids would have had PTSD by the age of 10. Chris was her personal slave.
Does no one not found it strange that she wouldn't get Bella out when she has just woke up. And Bella shouting for her mum saying it's hurting and she just carries on film ce ce. I'm sorry people there's so many videos of her being abusive to her kids! They was in bed most of the time doped up! She said she was a stay at home mum but they was at childcare all day! While she was doing there's stupid videos! Paying all that money for childcare and she's at home day! She would have been better off getting herself a full-time job so they could afford to pay there bills! And she was always saying I need me time she was at home 8 hours a day! Then she was putting them to bed at 6.30 it was just crazy!
I wish people wouldn't pull Shannan to bits in videos no matter what she did in life She didnt deserve to die let her rest in peace with her 3 babies none of us mothers are perfect and all of you commenting slagging her off shame on you all you didnt know what went on behind closed doors just what we see in videos
I do not like what I see here. I feel very sorry for these wonderful little girls. I can not imagine making my little ones wait, because my face has to be on the phone with strangers. She surely did not deserve to be murdered, but she was not prefect.
@@EYE_GOTCHA Isn't that the truth. I try to say that in different ways time and time again and I truly mean it... in regards to Shanann. She was a human being with strengths and flaws like the rest of us. Thanks for taking time to comment.
At least she was with her kids, my first 5 kids, was born in 5 years, and i know how challenging it was for me, and because we are only Human, i got tired
She was so miffed at their lack of tricks for the cam but she literally never taught them anything! Even when Bella counted in spanish, SW was shocked and praised the daycare. I can’t remember her ever saying “look what we learned today!” I’m so curious about her upbringing
Why was Shanann always making these girls stress more than they had to be. Just get the baby out of the crib instead of filming all that time. It's like that in all the videos which usually leads to one or both crying in the end out of frustration. It's very strange to me someone pushing their kids to those limits constantly. I don't understand.
I too have a feeling those kids were not treated well by her. Just something I have always felt … Just having her phone record so much of their lives was a bit overwhelming, to say the least. My opinion is all…
I think it’s time all mothers have a conversation about “sharenting” aka filming their kids and sharing their lives without their consent. I don’t believe in it and as much as I want to show my kids off because they’re adorable and awesome, I don’t think it’s ultimately in their best interest. There are too many creeps out there and the kids may become resentful of this intrusion of privacy as they get older.
@@user-od4zo1ow6d This is a really good point. I used to share pictures of my kids until I woke up and questioned why ... it was attention seeking. Pure and simple. Now I question every social media post that anyone posts... what is the point of this? Shameless brag? At least own it haha! I'd stopped posting by the time my kids were old enough to question it ... now if I even take a pic my son says "do not show that to ANYONE!" What I can not BEAR about Shanann was the constant "say hi!" why??? Did anyone care? Did anyone want those kids interrupting her videos to say hi? What was the point?! The worst part was when the kids would say "no" and Shanann kept going on at them to say hi until they gave a bored "hi" just so they could get on with what they were doing!
I don’t know that Bella pleading for her mom to put the phone down means that Bella is neglected. Kids plead and whine for attention whether they’re neglected or not. I was a big whiner and attention seeker and I had a mom who was with me all day every day and was a great mom. Bella seems like a major attention seeker too. She was always whining and complaining about something. If you give in to a child, like that, you will turn them into a brat. This is nothing against Bella. Many kids are like this and have to be taught. That’s part of being a kid. You have to be taught. It could very well be that Shannan was not paying attention to her kids at all, but it is equally plausible that Bella was just an attention seeker and a whiner. 🤷🏻♀️
@@joenot5746 Wasn’t blaming her at all. I only mentioned it in the context that she had issues Shannan was trying to correct. That’s a parent’s job - to correct the issues. Sometimes that involves not giving in to a child’s every demand. Every kid has issues. They’re kids. They’re supposed to. I don’t think her parents thought she was a loser.
@@LaurenSmith-e9w it’s a sad sad situation. I only recently began watching/reading about it. I shouldnt say “loser”. I guess I mean weak or frail or introverted. Thanks!
Shannan was abusing both of those girls but especially Bella. She obviously cut her hair and not very nicely most of the time. Meeting Nichol opened Chris' mind as to how fucked up his household. I think he realized that those girls were being abused and felt like he could do nothing about it.
It’s easy to criticize someone who isn’t her to defend herself. As a mother of two myself, I can honestly say that I was far from a perfect mother and had I filmed it and put it online I’m sure many would pull me apart for the way I raised my children. It’s easy to judge others from a screen. This woman and her kids are no longer with us, can’t you let her Rest In Peace??
It amazes me the hate she receives. So many people sitting on a high horse picking her whole life apart trying to find a way to blame her for her own death and the death of her children. For me, it makes this whole case that much more heartbreaking.
@@chelseamiranda6651 she is just very unpleasant person on these videos. I really wonder who would subscribe and watch her fake videos all the time? Rip , did not deserve to die, i feel sorry for her and innocent babies.
People like to overlook the fact that all those posts and interactions was her job. A job she worked hard at to provide for her kids. I was a stay at home mum and often ignored my daughters pointless whims while doing household chores. Had I not done that, she’d have lived in filth and mess and rarely got food. Had I been recorded I’d have been branded a bad mum, had the house been unkempt and no food provided I know I’d have been a bad mum. We can’t win either way.
We are all sad about this tragedy, the watts obsession channel is an observation of what Shannon shows on her Facebook videos as this one with CC looking at her mom when Bella calls out saying mom, it hurts. Even CC is aware of a stress call to her mom and Shannon just continues to not listen to Bella calling her out mom, it hurts, when a child is calling out to a mother it’s a mother‘s instinct to go run and help your child, I guess you’re a shiners channel lover, which hides all of these parts of this sad video of Bella calling for help. It’s just sad if I were her friend I would call CPS on her immediately. You don’t do that to your kids
MLMs cause a lot of pressure on families, both emotionally and financially. I detest the business structure of MLMs, they’re just glorified pyramid schemes, but I feel nothing but absolute sympathy for the people who get caught up in them :( I’ve seen so many families be ripped apart due to MLMs. Shannan obviously loved it though and it was keeping her afloat, but I can only imagine the tension it caused between her and Chris, with her being on her phone/video calls/Facebook posting etc all the time. But here’s an idea: maybe sit down and talk to your wife about the issues you feel have been popping up in your marriage, maybe do that instead of y’know…..having an affair and then literally killing your entire family. Shannan was a human being and a mother, her kids were beautiful and intelligent and had a whole life infront of them, and now none of them will ever get a chance to go on and experience life because their MONSTER of a “father” took that away from them and that makes me feel physically sick.
It's not just MLMs its also the corporate world. Things are looking up but tithe work life balance in America is shit. Kids have been suffering for a long time with lack of attention by their working parents. Fathers have missed out on raising their kids because of the corporate demands to work more hours to get more money because surely it's all about financially supporting your family. I just see this as her way of engaging with the outside world for her sanity. Being a stay at home mom isn't easy for some women.
@@melissatraficante503 Yeah, right he is a horrible, monster. It is unimaginable how horrid he is, doing something like that to his own daughters and wife. Especially his 2 extremely, young, adorable, daughters though. SMH. They had barely even begun to live life. He had 0 parental instincts to protect his young children. Disgusting!
Disturbing dynamics. It’s so hard to watch Shannan and her kids. She really was the most disconnected yet domineering parent and she truly never listened to anything that her kids tried to tell her.
Thanks for posting this and also, I have to say thank you to everyone who is actually listing concerns about Shannan. Yes, she was murdered and it is the most horrific thing to happen to a family, especially the girls. They were the truly innocent ones. My point being, that because Shannan was murdered everyone made her out to be a saint, and no one ever really talked about how disturbing it was to see that she never put her phone down. You can see in almost every video of Chris, if you watch his facial expressions, he absolutely did not want that camera in his face 24/7, and neither would I. Now, that being said, he had NO RIGHT to murder his family and there are two strong opinions out there; One being he is exactly where he should be and the other is 6ft below. I agree with one of those. Now, back to Shannan. According to family members, her girls even hated having the camera in their faces constantly. They even had to practice a whole bunch. There was a video that a family member posted on social media saying that on vacation, Shannan would tell the girls to smile and say, "Hi, everyone." and wave and just be their cute little selves, like most of us moms will say to our children when recording them, but the family member, I believe it was a cousin, said that the girls were tired and they didn't want to be filmed but Shannan was so "addicted" to the camera that she refused to stop filming "until the girls got it right". She would stop the video, delete it, coach the girls, start recording, stop the video and delete it, coach the girls, start recording, stop the video and delete it, coach the girls, start recording, stop the video and delete it, on and on and on until the girls eventually started whining leading Shannan to break down and get mad at the girls because they didn't give her that picture-perfect video and sometimes her outbursts led to the girls crying. Needless to say, she didn't get the shot she wanted and it completely changed her mood. It was said that this happened almost every time she got her phone out to record. "There was never a spontaneous moment". This family member made video was posted after the murders and I think that it was removed because the comments. They were saying that the family member(s) were victim shaming. She NEVER ONCE said anything about Shannan's murder or ever implied that Shannan's behavior led to her and her children's muders. She was just sharing her personal story about how Shannan pushed the family to their brinks with her camera and incessant behavior regarding the constant filming and coaching. She even coached Chris. The video of her showing him the pregnancy test for their third baby was such an eye-opener. He was NOT happy and you can hear her coaching him if you listen to her tone and the way he looks up at her over the camera you can absolutely tell that she was shooting him a death glare off camera because his facial expression completely changes to this very inauthentic and fake smile. In a way, it reminds me of when a parent is trying to act happy and talks through their teeth while smiling to a child while trying to keep their composure. There was something wrong with her and when that camera wasn't rolling you can bet she was not this innocent, smiling, happy, grateful mom and wife. She seemed mean-spirited in a way,especially through her texts, and it was said that she constantly complained and bitched about everything. Things like gifts she received from Chris. One example given by a member of Chris' family said one Christmas she thought she was getting something she had been hinting at for a year and when she didn't get what she thought she was getting, her whole demeanor changed and the camera gets shut off. After the camera is off, she asks why she didnt get this specific thing to which im not sure exactly and then after she grills Chris and then "thanks" him for what he actually got her, the camera is back on amd she is suddenly smiling and laughing and filming everyone else opening gifts. Why? Leave it on. If you want to show your entire life then show your real life. Not the fairy tale you wanted everyone to believe. I believe that if Chris would have divorced her instead of murdering his entire family; his wife, two beautiful, innocent, baby girls, and his innocent, unborn, baby boy, things said about her would be a lot different. But, because she's a victim of a horrendous and disgusting act, no one can seem to say what was wrong with her picture. And although I know nothing of her life because I was never a part of her life, I can't truly say what really went on behind the camera or when the camera was off. But, I don't think her friends and family that came out and said that she was demonstrating disturbing and odd behavior should be chastised for speaking the truth just because she was taken from the earth. I don't share the same opinion as some, which is that she caused Chris to snap resulting in their deaths. He's nothing but the scum of the earth that didn't want another child with her, didnt want her anymore so by killing her he eliminates that "problem". Literally killed two birds with one stone. But there's a bigger "problem" now. One of his babies witnessed it so he killed her and because he killed her, he had to kill his other beautiful baby. Monster is too nice of a word for him. For him to listen to his little, baby girl ask if he's going to hurt her and then go through with it shows how absolutely loathsome and disgusting he truly was. He could have easily divorced her. Do I believe that she drove him up the wall and do I believe that if they were still alive that the older the girls got the more annoyed with their mother's camera they would've gotten? Absolutely! Do I think from what I've seen and read that she had a personality disorder? Yes, but I'm not a doctor, psychologist, therapist, etc so my opinion holds no water. It's just that; an opinion. And lastly, do I believe in Chris' mistress' innocence? That she thought he was in the middle of a divorce? HELL NO!! Mistresses always look at the wives' social media and as we all know, Shannan had no shortage of lovey-dovey photos and videos of her and Chris. Kim will never convince me that she was innocent and wasn't scheming with Chris to get rid of the "roadblocks", by way of at least a divorce, that were in the way of their future and happiness. Do I think she wanted them dead? I can't imagine her being okay with that but again, I don't really know. She very well could've known he was going to murder them or even told Chris to do it. Who knows? Only her and Chris. Anyway, HOLY COW, guys!!! I am so sorry for the horribly, lengthy comment. I just wanted to know if anyone else had seen any of the family videos talking about Shannan and her "having to have the perfect family and life on camera" obsession? Thanks everyone!
I also forgot to mention that one of the videos mentions that Shannan had a drug problem. That she slurred her words after taking too many pain pills, had terrible mood swings, would neglect the kids during those times, become disconnected, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard this?
@@TorchAndWillowDesigns I haven’t heard that and I find I hard to believe I know lpeople with drug problems and she’s nothing like them. They tend to be smart and creative, if troubled rather than basic and unintelligent. They aren’t the type to ever try to reach 40k hawking an mlm, that’s for sure. Had she had a drug problem, I bet I would find her to have been more interesting. I’m not saying it’s not true, but I wouldn’t believe it without a reliable source.
I’ve always found this video very disturbing. I don’t know what in the world Shanann was making a video of here.
I’m feeling mental, emotional abuse here. It gives me anxiety watching it. Shanann just standing there filming CeCe and CeCe looks like she’s feeling out mommies mood here. Is it nice mommy or mean mommy. She’s watching her closely and then gives a sweet little smile looking to hopefully put mommy in a good mood.
But Shanann standing there just looking at CeCe saying …… mmmmh… hmmmm, mmmmh…..,,hmmmm in a very creepy way. I’m sorry but that was too strange, very weird.
Something definitely was not right with that moment.
When one of your kids is yelling, It hurts, you stop doing whatever you and doing to check to see if the child is actually hurt or just saying it to get attention.
Bella was pushed to the side when CeCe was born. 😢
People that film their entire lives weird me out
I think it's the new business. Sad.
I agree if you record things personally for family memorabilia that’s different but Shannan was what we call a over share 🫤
Why? How does that affect your life?
@@skel760 It's annoying and I block people who do it🙄I guess you watch this kind of garbage😑
It’s called narcissism. SW had a severe case of it and NOBODY in her circle noticed because they are all narcissists too.. cuz they are all members of the “THRIVE” cult.
I can’t pick you up BW CAUSE I REFUSE TO LET GO OF THIS ATTENTION ON THIS PHONE 🤮
She is so cruel to Bella! She blatantly ignored her even to the point that she has distressed CeCe. I really think it's because Bella favors Chris not only in appearance but most likely in personality as well. She sees Bella as weak like her father. That really irritates her and she is so pissed off when Bella is needy. She's just a year older than Cece, she's still a baby! Especially in this video she seems very very young. I can see why she would start acting and speaking like Cece. She's hoping it will get her more attention to. The fact that she still wants her blankie shows you how young she is. Unbelievable!
I agree with you 💯. It makes sense now why she is so behind with that annoying baby talk and growling noises. Whatever the case, Bella had a lot going on and was incredibly jealous and needy. When CeCe would get attention she would throw herself around, or start whining anything to pull the focus right back to her. Poor Shannan
@@ChristyAnne-to7li you ever saw the video of Bella talking about missing her grandparents? She’s doing that annoying ass vocal fry whine talk the entire time and saying she wants her grandparents. But you can literally see her smile several times. That’s almost terrifying. I know that all kids “manipulate” to an extent. Learning about boundaries and all of that. But what I find extremely disturbing is that usually kids aren’t consciously aware of what they are doing. They’re just learning the world and boundaries. But Bella smiles like she knows exactly what she’s doing. She seems very pleased with herself that her fake sadness is getting her what she wants and that speaks to logic and forethought.
I agree with you 💯. Im so happy I'm not the only one that sees it. There is something very off and strange about that kid. She liked to hurt CeCe when Shannan wasn't looking. @@brookemahan8063
Hmm wonder where she learned that from.. 🙄
@nancyminui91...☆ I know. Bella was alitte carbon copy of Chris. They've shown his baby and toddler pictures. I'm sure she did remind Shannan of him. And CeCe resembled Shannan in the face except she was blonde. I don't understand Chris not having a bond with Bella when she was so much like him. But then....I don't understand a lot about him. Or Shannan.
What I feel and see in these videos is sadness and emptiness, when I watch Shannan videos I often get this sadness coming from her. The home seems empty, I do not know what is it about the home but it feels empty, cold. The home is not inviting nor comfortable.
Everyone including the police said the home was out of place to have 2 toddlers. It was a staged home. Keeping up with the Jones's. I for one can't stand her voice. And no, I don't think she or the girls deserved to be killed but I can certainly see why Chris wanted them gone. Chris had zero say. He could even have a say in how he wanted the home to look or hang up a photo.
@@poodee9395 Shanan's behaviors came from a place of insecurity, even her domineering attitude toward Chris came from a place where she needed to have control. People have mentioned that her father was an alcoholic, and her early home life must it been chaotic. Cyndi Watts stated that Shanna's mother in the first 5 mnts of meeting her mentioned his alcoholism. I can only imagen the stress Shannan must it felt growing up. When you come from such an unstable environment, you want to control everything around you including those around you. This is what rubs many people the wrong way when it comes to Shannan. She was trying so hard to be nothing like her parents. In one video in NC when they are visiting, I think her mother is talking in the background and you can tell Shannan's real feelings toward them come up. Her tone of voice changes and tries to correct her mother. That says a lot about Shannan's family dynamics. This is why is so important for us to heal and become aware of why we are responding to the world in a certain manner.
Shannan become aware of this right before she passed, she understood how unbalanced her relationship was with Chris. She was willing to see herself and accept her shortcomings and make Pro solutions. Chris decided to make an antisocial solution, kill his family. All of us have the right to redemption, including despicable Chris :)
@@jackiemederos3138 interesting comment. Thank you for your input. Both my parents were placed onto foster care at a very young age. Both went through all different situation and they both chose not to live that past and live their life. Not what they were subject too.
Its truly sad she didnt catch what most see looking in. She was too selfish and self involved to have children. Chris too. Both mentally immature.
@@poodee9395 Totally, what most people see is the disconnection she had toward others. The fear of failure triumphed over anything else; however, she was not aware of it. Most of us have a blind spot, we do not have the capacity to see that the trouble we are seeing in others is what we have created (we project our own demons). It really hurts when we actually see ourselves but we can also grow. I think Shannan would have matured more. Very sorry to hear about your parents, I am assuming, they tried to give you everything, and tried very hard to give you the life they never had.
@@jackiemederos3138 I had a great childhood. Please take care of yourself and God bless the human race.
When the social media audience takes more place in your life than your husband - then there is something completley wrong in your marriage. And no, this is no excuse for what happened. What I want to say: If anonymous watchers are so important for you like nothing else, then social media is a kind of self therapy - but does not work. Shanann talks in her videos like a person talks to a psychotherapist. She did not seperate: Time with her husband, time with her kids, time with the whole family, working time - and time with a psychotherapist (would have been good). She mixed it all up and did not notice that nothing of it worked.
If Chris's account of her spending is true, Shannan would've been better off as a stay at home mum without working. And I'm not sure why she was the one in charge of all their money if she landed them in bankruptcy twice.
Attention Seeking!!!!
I bet Bella was locked in her room and had to go to the bathroom therefore screaming it hurts. SW was obsessed with filming and not so concerned about her children
Shanann was so horrible, it was so hard to watch this video. SHe also sounds like she was stoned
Incorrect
Accurate!
@@nowirehangers2815 Nope very very Accurate!
You hit the nail right on the head!
“She’s a monster!!” “She doesn’t stop!” “She’s a monster!!”
Kids BARELY being active.
Shannan recording her kids during the 3 hours a day she watched them trying to portray her kids as uncontrollable and her life as soooo stressful is ridiculous
Oh shut up you bloody monster supporter.
yep
SHANANN WAS A MONSTER, AND YOU’RE SO PERFECT ❤
How did you escape, With all that evil in you I'd have thought they would have dead bolted that door a few times.
It's called histrionic personality disorder
Any mom that derives pleasure from filming their abuse and gaslighting of her children, starves them, locks them in their room for 12 hours, unable to go to the bathroom is NOT a good mom. I cant believe that you, who sees what she does, would say that. This is why children keep getting abused = because no one calls out the parent doing it, ir turns her in or tries to talk to the parent. Look at that poor Montgomery child. If u see abuse, help save them.
Exactly
How anyone spend so much time and energy watching someone else’s home video over & over, analyzing it w editing headphones w the goal of criticizing and condemning the parenting of a mother who is dead and gone?
Shannan was murdered and dumped half naked in a lil hole in the dirt by her own husband whom she trusted and was faithful to. He left her to rot face down in her grave in the hot August sun while she expelled her unborn son from her womb
Why would you want to put effort into degrading her any further?
Have some decency.
Let the woman Rest In Peace already.
Thank you 👏 she’s not here to defend herself as parents we never stop learning no parent out here is perfect but that woman tried and that’s the principle don’t speak on the dead.
Yes my thoughts exactly, she obviously doesn't have a life of her own to focus on.
I believe Shannan was just as busy when her phone was off as it was when it was on.
Yes, she was on the phone alot but not all the time.
When the camera is on she's just as busy as most stay at home moms are, that's what we do. We don't have cell phones to record our daily lives as Shannan did..It's a hectic life, working as hard as she did.
She had her monster husband to care for as he was useless doing anything without being directed, and 2 busy little kids, plus her buisness to run.
To be critical about the girls behavior while Shannan was Thriving, is pointless because we have no idea what's happening and the goings on before the camera started rolling.
But when it's on we judge and dissect every thing the kids are saying and Shannans attentiveness or lack of while juggling the girls and working.
Not sure what the point of this video actually is.
The point is: Lessons learned- Not whose to blame- There is no blame game, this is the most unspeakable crime! Simpley put- Caution with relationships!
I totally agree with you .They are sick in the head to do these videos and trying to make a living out of this poor woman and children it needs removed.
Why on earth did she continue to film CeCe as Bella was calling out. Wth was so important about filming CeCe …. This is concerning
I watched Shanann videos before her death and she was cold hearted and treated Chris like a paid maid...
If Chris didn't like it he would have left you can't blame shannan because Chris allowed her to to do it.
Support for a murdering monster is not a good look.
@@rememberme3852 Not supporting anyone, just stating a fact.
Sounds like you're trying to justify him murdering them all. Sick sick sick.
@@rememberme3852 Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about, best go take your medication sweetie
Do good moms send their kids to daycare when they are home all day anyways? You don't even have to be a mom to do that?
She didn't deserve to die but she wasn't some fantastic mother! All she does is complain about them and almost every video they are in they are begging for food to no avail.
@AMAZING TUTORIALS BY ANNA if you don't bring your kids around other kids thats another issue! Its also what school is for!!! Any self respecting parent doesn't pay others to raise their kids!!!! She was a joke of a parent in that aspect!
@Rachael Nelson It sounds like you need to go back to school with that horrible grammar. And that isn't what "normal mothers do"; I raised my kids....I never shoved them in an expensive daycare while I was at home all day, calling it "school". Small children should be at home with their mother, if her ass is at home everyday.
@Rachael Nelson my parents worked both so they gave me to day care - hated every second of it. Still remember. I m 53 now
@Rachael Nelson well it’s amazing how the rest of us did just fine being home with our mother until kindergarten. When you have a sibling to play with especially.
I don’t think that there is anything remotely unusual about sending your kids to preschool. Where I live in NYC, most people send their kids to preschool programs. It’s encouraged and recommended by the state on top of being a great way to expand their horizons and make an easier adjustment to kindergarten.
However, if you can’t afford the tuition and you are financially in dire straits, it fails to make sense. I don’t think that Shannan genuinely enjoyed being with her children. She seemed to view it as an unpleasant chore, instead of having fun with it. She seemed to think that her kids were a drain,and complained about them excessively.
Therefore, I think that it’s really good that the girls were not in her care all day. I think she was actually somewhat abusive to them when she was with them and I think their sleep schedules , with 3-4 hour daily naps were patently insane for kids their age!
She had no problem putting herself first it seems
Her obsession with her phone and filming her life is stupid. It's Luke she wanted everyone to believe she had a perfect life, proven totally false
When I saw the awful video of the girls crying at the breakfast bar, making Christmas cookies I think it was, I couldn't believe how badly Shanann came across. I kept thinking 'neither of these poor babies survived those parents'.
Neither parent stopped this from happening - they utterly failed those innocent girls.
Seriously are you saying she deserved to be murdered!
Yes, they are both failures as parents and help feed the fire that caused innocent beautiful babies to be killed
I know one thing for damn sure Bella & Cece looked out for one another! Precious babies ❤ ❤ 🕊 🌹 🙏🏼
They were precious sister in life ❤️
They were so close, bless their little hearts.
Such beautiful,sweet, precious girls. It's heart wrenching to think they're gone and that they're life ended in such a horrific way.😭😓😭
@@WattsTheObsession They truly were. They're together for eternity with their Mama, Shannan & brother Nico 💙
@@WattsTheObsession Whose tragically short little lives you are HAPPY to exploit picking apart happy family videos looking for “signs” of child abuser by Shannan who CLEARLY adored them as much as they loved her. Funny how you don’t “analyze” videos of their SOCIOPATHIC father who SMOTHERED THE LIFE OUT of those precious babies that YOU spend a bizarre amount of time watching trying to find abuse WHERE NONE EXISTS and “speaking” for them in your CREEPY baby voice!! Instead you’d rather DEFAME Shannan!
She never knew what Mama she was getting .,Bella was locked in her room
It amazes me that none of her FB live viewers called out the bs they saw Shanann doing with her kids.
Seems those “ followers” she had , worshipped her.
They were “ buying “ the lifestyle,
Which at its roots were
“ I want to be you”
They fall for the illusion of
I want the husband, children, cars, house, vacations, that seemed to them to be attainable if you bought , ate, wore,
“ lived” the Thrive lifestyle
A lot of these "internet celebrities" are practically worshipped by their fans. So they're blinded by adoration. Which is....weird. The whole "family on social media" thing is bizarre.
I agree. And I wish someone would have said to her when she was cutting Bella’s hair…”I thought Bella was begging for long hair, so why are you cutting it? As a matter of fact, you just cut it 2 weeks ago. Leave her hair alone and let it grow!”
All her viewers were Thrive cultists! They couldn't see anything.
@@missyann7588 Exactly! There were many other videos that she was posting for Thrive while she either abused or neglected her kids. Both of them! I wondered why no one would say anything.
It seems like SW likes getting CeCe's hopes up of getting out of the crib just to tell her NO ma'am. Like a sick pleasure of some sort. Why ignore a child calling for you just to record your other jumping in their crib for sooo long...smh
@APar-zz7sy OMG! I'm glad someone FINALLY said what I was thinking. She was just cruel, plain CRUEL!!!!! Thank you for your comment.
@@girlygirl1890
I think Shanann would do “these sort of things” to pretend to the viewers that she had her hands full with 2 daughters and making out as if she’s some sort of a super mother who stays cool, calm and collected no matter how much Bella and Cece played up.
It was all an act, I’ve lost count over the years with the amount of times she either ignored the girls or deliberately made them upset for long periods of time just so she could point to the Thrive patch.
“Look at me, I’m a mum who can tolerate anything.”
Once that camera was turned off, I bet the girls got into trouble.
Look how she reacted after her and Cindy had the argument over the ice cream, Cindy went to get her hair done leaving Sw and the girls at home. While Cindy was out SW phoned her and basically blew her up for “leaving her alone with her own 2 daughters”! They’re her daughters but she expected Cindy to look after them.
And she wanted another baby when she couldn’t handle 2 toddlers. From what I’ve seen over the years the girls got upset because that bloody camera was on all the time, SW paid more attention to her Thrive colleagues, instead of giving the girls comfort, she would continue filming, didn’t matter if the girls were in danger of hurting themselves.
She never played with the girls, they would have been so bored! And they weren’t allowed to play with their toys because then they would be chastised for the mess.
In all the FB videos, she never took them shopping, to the park, to the swimming pool, for a walk UNLESS it was with her parents or Chris’s parents.
My heart breaks for them all, particularly Bella and Cece, during their very short life they seemed to fear their own mother, especially Bella.
@@jayceec3178 Horrible mother...just horrible. Well...horrible human being. Thank you for your insight.
It’s very hard to like Shan’ann as a mother. This video is pretty sickening.
Yeah it is
Shannon the scammer had to change her name
Boy, what a strange family. Chris and Shanann are both weird. Bad mom - bad dad.
I don’t think she was a good person bc she had stolen from her old employer and had cheated on her ex husband- she had to show the world she existed in this fake, perfect life. She worked for a Ponzi scheme company & made her kids practice and perform for the camera. Honestly, her videos disgust me and I can’t stand when ppl automatically say someone was “sooo beautiful and such a wonderful person,” just bc they died. She isolated Chris from his family- shown in the texts bc his mom gave her ice cream to which there’s conflict on how “allergic she was,” as it was said that she just hates nuts.. She spoke super negatively to Chris about his parents and I DARE someone to speak negatively about mine. I know my parents flaws and every1 can improve but if u love me, then u have to show respect for the ppl who made me. My mother has pissed me off when it came to my child but to banish her is extreme. She used her illnesss consistently to garner sympathy. The most cringe videos are the ones in the car where u can see her kids are only singing bc she’s forcing them to and when she reveals to Chris they’re pregnant again on camera. His expression shows he was not happy.
I think this is what happened. She came home and Chris told her he didn’t love her and didn’t want to be with her. I think they fought verbally and from her own vindictiveness shown to her parents- she probably threatened him with custody or to even ruin him. I think he was fed up and she saw he didn’t love her anymore so during those threats he choked her. I think bc her perfect world was fake and falling apart esp bc she had faked it for FB- she didn’t fight back. I think at that point, he looked at his kids as not his kids but an extension of Shannan, a woman he couldn’t stand. They were the reminder of her. He killed them next. I don’t believe it had anything to do with the affair. I think the affair is what catapulted him into hating his life. Also, they were super broke but she was online trying to sell her success. I hate ppl who exploit their kids and lie online bc there’s dumbasses that believe ppl like her and feel bad abt their lives. Truly happy ppl don’t have to post it. It’s like those perfect all out wedding videos- u know they’re not truly happy.
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I totally agree !!! She should have put her energy into hearts and relationships instead of trying so hard to make them all LOOK in one accord with clothing !!!! On the inside there was no love and no time for reality !!! What a shame !!!!
You said everything perfectly and listed every bullet point that I and I'm sure many other people feel thank you! I was going to comment but you literally took the words out of my mouth
It seems strange to film CeCe for so long in this clip. Is CeCe jumping because she wants her mother to pick her up? What exactly is going on here? And poor Bella calling Mommy for such a long time with nothing more than an "ok, baby" response. It's almost as Bella's request for help didn't matter. This isn't the first time that I have seen sweet Bella's requests ignored.
Her voice wasn't the sweet shy one like she usually does.. creepy just staring and filming your kid like that day after day ??
@@karengirl52 don’t forget Cw is the one that shoved them down into those big Oil tanks which took skin off Bella & CeCe,s. Back side.. and put a pillow over there face to kill them before that … and Poor Bella was begging for her life…. Can you imagine the Horror he put Bella through by killing her mother and sister in front of her before he killed her to…. So before you make snide remarks about shannann and how she raised her kids think about..
@@sassygirl5422 How can no one “think” about this case or forget it? Just because people don’t think or feel what you do, or agree with you doesn’t make them wrong- we’re all our own person with our very own thoughts, opinions, and expressions. Of course we all think about it! But the truth is she did post her life and her family’s lives 24/7- all the videos are out for the world to see as she obviously wanted- why else does anyone post things without a “private” status- people see what she posted, it’s there to see as well as herself as a parent and person she was. No one’s making anything up- she put it out there. We all see what she put out here-
no one is perfect or a saint period- wether they’re here or they’re gone. It’s life and a hard truth. You don’t have to agree with anyone, feel or think like anyone-
And we’re all entitled to our own opinions, thoughts, and feelings. That doesn’t involve you or what you feel or think. 🙏🏼 RIP to SW and her innocent children.
And may he suffer every second and rot in his cell every second! He’s an evil, demented monster! He doesn’t deserve to live at all!
I don’t think he was ever a genuine good guy- I think he was always a dark, evil POS- and NK just brought that evil darkness out to light and exposed it and his true self!
May he rot in h*ll!
@@sassygirl5422 Chris's Apple watch and his phone both show he didn't climb any stairs that morning of murder Monday. (Not saying he's innocent.)
She was a weirdo ,she put them to bed at 630 she didn't let the girls run there energy out ,this is horrible those poor girls speech wasn't good at the time of there perspective ages ,Shannon was a lunatic who drove chris to silent insanity!!!
The girls went to bed from 6:30pm to 6:30am. They would lock their jack and Jill bathroom of the girls. They were not allowed to get up or go to the bathroom and they even would lock them in their bedrooms. Shannan and Chris had a key. They were not allowed to sleep with stuffed animals and a loud noise machine that clearly causes Cece stress. You can see her putting her blanket over her head to try to drown out the sound.
Child cruelty. Awful
These girls were scared of their own shadows. And she wouldn’t even let them share a room. They could have comforted each other at night. My sister and I did. Some of my best memories of my sister are when we shared a room. Shannon deprived them of that.
Grandma said Shannan medicated each night before bed. She inquired and Shannan said it was Tylenol but I'm betting it was melatonin. Or God forbid Tylenol PM. There is no reason little ones would need Tylenol every night.
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Yep. The other medication was benedryl. There is something in benedryl that will make you sleepy. She knew what she was doing.
That’s ridiculous! They just laying there in the bed awake 😢
Why would she just ignore Bella and stand there filming CeCe for so long??? How weird
Had they lived, i wonder if bella would of developed a resentment towards cece because of the treatment they received from SW
you know when kids don't stop? when your phones been in your face all day and they are fed up and just want some attention.
Heartbreaking. Two lovely and innocent children murdered by their father…unthinkable.
I do wish their mother didn’t constantly film them and their lives at home. She was not perfect, but didn’t deserve this horrible ending. I think Chris literally snapped. It’s all incredibly tragic.
The petito woman had a similar life with a similar ending
he did not snap, it was all done methodically and calculated
I used to be just like these women who are literally blind to Shanann's cruelty. It pains me to see these girls hurt like they do and suffering. Shannan should not have died but we don't know what the whole story was. She is obviously guilty of abuse and neglect of these precious children. No one spoke up for them when they were alive so there are many of us who believe they deserve a voice in it after their death. I have always spoken up for those who have no voice of their own and I will continue to do so even if these girls are no longer alive. They should not have had to suffer as much as they did at their mother's hands when they were alive. If you can't see the pain in their face you are blind!
He didn’t snap it was premeditated
@@nancyminui9108 Oh so you believe she killed her daughters??? Because you seem to consider her strict and irrespective treatment worse than ending their lives forever.
It’s very difficult to watch these videos… anyone who thinks Shanaan was some kind of supermom is delusional. And NO… nobody is saying that she deserved to die for the love of God, but this is NOT normal. Those poor kids spent more time in bed than anywhere else. Who videos their child like this after a nap, especially when your other child is desperately calling for you in the other room??? I just want to puke when Shanaan keeps standing there telling Cece “No, no… no, no” and then keeps absentmindedly telling Bella “Okay… okay sweetheart” when she is literally yelling “”HURRY!!!” And poor Cece is full of energy and wanting to get out of that dark room and go play and see what’s wrong with Bella as well.
Her delusional mental problems were so unfortunate and made things even worse.
Omg shut up that women is dead have some fu"" King respect you guys are so stupid .
Okay. So what are you doing online raging at a dead women?
@@ArkadiaTube nobody is “raging.” People don’t automatically become promoted to sainthood just because they die. Being dead doesn’t erase the things we did when we were alive. The Watts case is a cautionary tale on many levels. People continue to discuss it not only because it’s horrific but also because we have not been told the entire truth.
@@leeprimeau7912 okay. So let’s tear the dead woman apart who isn’t here to speak for herself and call it a life lesson? I don’t understand the purpose of this exercise. She has no voice because he took it from her. I don’t hear her actual family and friends calling her a horrible mother. Just internet strangers analysing her Facebook posts as if that’s the whole picture of who she was.
Why would you keep filming when your daughter is calling you enough times for help
I don’t get it I really feel for Bella
She was hard to understand for a child at her age and that poor girl just wanted long hair
Shannon would say In her filming that people thought Bella was a boy 😢
Great point. I totally agree with you.
And making fun of her hair and different videos 😮
I thought she was a boy as well.
I'm no licensed expert, but that Shanann certainly seemed to exhibit Narcisstic Mother Syndrome. Those mothers always want to be in a constant beauty competition with their daughters!!!!
This video made me almost as uncomfortable as the Santa clause video. When Cece was literally having a nervous breakdown because she was terrified about a fat bearded stranger in their home and her mom just ignores her for soooo long. I can’t stand my son crying for even a few seconds before I scoop him up. Yes I know that’s babying him but idc. I’d rather him know I will be there if he’s scared or uncomfortable or sad rather than, if I cry mommy will just ignore me. I bet she did the cry it out method with the girls. It breaks my heart that anyone could do that to a baby, but for some reason these videos give me the vibe that she was the type to do that.
I’m just so glad that phones weren’t around when my boys were young. I had a video camera and an actual camera. Now I have pictures, and some clips of the kids when they were growing up…but I was always 100% present for my kids, and the videos were for me and my husband alone.
Live in the moment people…PUT DOWN YOUR PHONES!🌹🌹🌹
15-16 hours a day filming lives. Really
Poor Bella likely had to go to the washroom, as the Jack + Jill bathroom doors were locked
Absolutely no reason for them to get murdered, its truly heartbreaking. But her constantly being online, livestreaming, filming everything is kinda scary.
Collateral damage..one of the girls saw her dead mum in the bedroom with her father..and he wanted a new life.." no baggage" so to speak..horrific
Not to mention immature. Just look at how she attacked Chris’s parents on Facebook…like a 13 year old girl trying to get attention.
She was streaming with friends and family...Yet the one she loved the most killed her. ironic
Sadly, She was attempting to obtain some attention she was lacking in her marriage.
I don't think these are all live stream some of these are just home videos. this looks like a stationary camera. so it was probably just a motion-activated nursery cam. let it go let them rest in peace. these little girls were not being abused for God's sake.
I do feel the sleep routine to be extreme. 10-12 hours for a toddler to go without using the bathroom is just unnatural
Rain machines and black out curtains for 2 toddlers with asthma and 4 or 5 other potentially deadly conditions? Wouldn’t it be helpful to hear and see without total reliance on a monitor? This wasn’t just Thrive’s problem, there’s something wrong here.
Wow- that's a really good point. I never thought of this from the perspective you raise. And being about to observe and monitor your babies when health is unstable is of critical importance- second to none as compared to ANYTHING! Thanks for the comment.
She really did not want to be bothered with the kids....she made them sleep...a lot!!! Sw was a terrible mother and a total scammer and abuser.
Nada justifica al asesino matar. Por dejar a la bebé en la cuna. Yo muchas veces deje a mis hijos en su cuna cuando cocinaba o iba al baño. Eso no significa que vas a matarme por eso.
I don’t think the kids had asthma or the other ailments she claimed they had. It’s a known fact she doctor shopped. There are instances that happened where SW didn’t react when she should have because it could have been life threatening situation.
@@pamelasmith6221 exactfuckenactly she was a fake through and through
That anguished cry for her mother at 19:07 . Bella is lost in the wilderness of Sartre's existential work "Being and Nothingness". Bella's sweet little face of content being held in her mother's arms is dashed away the next moment when put down without a thought. Again, Sartre "Being and Nothingness". Bella didn't stand a chance., She was 100% at the mercy of everything besides herself. A disposable prop in some sadistic play.
I'm shocked at these comments. Getting a video is only a brief snap shot of the life these kids led. They were OBVIOUSLY happy, easily reaching their milestones and they were loved by the very person you all are criticising when you know NOTHING about her life. I work in social services and I can tell you that neglected children so not act like Bella and CeCe. Scrutinizing and criticism of a Mother who cannot defend herself is sick
You have a good point!!!!🤗🇬🇧
Right! They were were obviously well cared for and very loved children. Nobody is a perfect mother. If the only thing she was doing wrong, was being on her phone and social media too much, then that is nothing compared to what lots of other kids have to put up with. Chris Watts is the only one that deserves judgement.
Glad I’m not the only person who thought this x
You may wanna do a deep dive, she was only allowed 1.5 hour unsupervised with them
Had an open Cps case for medical abuse.
@@Kitty-pooh21 That’s an internet rumor that took off like wildfire.
Their horrific ending automatically catapulted Shannan to the best mother to ever exist. Realistically she was probably just an average "good mom" like the rest of us. Most people don't video their lives like she did or have a need to be on display like that. I wonder if she "wore the pants" in that marriage and Chris didn't think he could leave, but felt he had to escape. What happened is just unbelievable.
Thats actually what alot of people think in posts that I've seen.
Shannon could audibly be heard orchestrating every family member
CW is a murderous Coward, *not* a man. He has a weird Mom & sister who were oddly possessive of him, and who bullied Shanann mercilessly in their efforts to destroy that marriage. Growing up w/ people like that obviously impacted his development in some terrible way.
Shanann did seem to have a strong & direct personality. Which is Not a criticism - she was just more driven & outgoing than he was. With a better mate, she'd have been safe. But for a narcissist like him, that combo - shiny personality & being the go-getter that he was Not - likely triggered his deep-seated insecurities.
I'd venture to guess that introverted narcs are the deadliest type. Craving the spotlight, but simultaneously uncomfortable with it, they're drawn to those who attract it naturally. Then, they punish them for it, for simply being their charming & popular selves.
Notice that his bimbo mistress - who knew he was married - Also basically ruled him. She pressured him into committing this Atrocious crime. She led him around by his "little brain", and it only took her a short time working on him before he annihilated the very people he was supposed to Love & Protect.
That's how incredibly WEAK he was, and is. Glad he's behind bars for the rest of his life. I hope memories of his adorable babies drive him to the deepest despair. He has loads of time to think about them now.
He is a grown man, right? If he was unhappy he could have left. You are making excuses for a man who cheated on his pregnant wife and then murdered her and his two daughters.
@@lktzu2821 There is absolutely NO excuse for what he did. My God, how could there be? Reasons are Not excuses. The reason my neighbor's home was burglarized was because the shites needed drug money. That did not excuse their actions. They did time for their crime. There's a reason for everything, including what Watts did. He will never be excused.
I have watched videos of myself and my 2 girls interacting and I was appalled at a couple of my own actions. Let's not judge her like this. She can't defend herself and her life was taken. This shouldn't be happening.
Obviously it's tragic how they died but just because she was murdered doesn't make her a saint... she had a lot of problems and skeletons in her closet
I was thinking exactly the same. There are many things I would not be proud of either. Of course, I'm not a machine
We should be able to have a discussion and not be shamed for “judging”. That’s not what I’m doing.
If one parent watches this and changes the way they handle their families on social, these conversations won’t be in vain.
Could not agree more. This is disgusting to me.
Same here!
I wonder what was the point of her even recording that video???!!!! Wtf!! Grab the baby out of the crib and go help your other child.
Some video Shanann made just blow my mind.
Shannon (her birth name) drove her family to financial ruin with her ridiculously flashy and expensive tastes and obvious shopping addiction, manipulated her entire family, mentally and verbally abused her husband, used her family as her own personal puppets with no regard for their boundaries or feelings, and had her daughters convinced and accepting of the idea that they were plagued with mental and emotional and physical illnesses. The fact that her life was cruelly snuffed out does not change the fact that she was not a nice person. She was extremely selfish. Those beautiful children did not deserve to pay the price for their mother and father's mental illnesses and soul sicknesses.
@@DM_21 I understand it all, been following this case closely since I saw CW standing at his porch and pleading for their safe return ,,, and grinning. Disgusting, . They both had mental issues
@@samg3730 it was sad and sickening. So many 'if onlys'. If only Chris did not allow the devil to get a stronghold in his life. If onlly Shannon had told Chris that she began to contemplate her bad behavior and wanted to change. If only they had gone to seek marriage counseling rather than had a time if seperation (that Shannon may have initiated as a way to begin releasing control and perhaps to facilitate somewhat of a reset on their marriage and family dynamic). This is an incredibly gripping and heartbreaking tragedy.
@@DM_21 Your comment is the most rational real I’ve seen so far. Your spot on. 💯🙏🏼
Right! Making this video was more important than helping your other child who is clearly calling for you to come help her!
This video always pissed me off. It’s hard for me to watch. Put down the Effin phone and take care of your kids. To make Cece wait that long to get out of crib and make Bella knowing she was locked in her room. Like what was the point of her even recording this ?
She got off on how she treated bella cece
Her poor child was begging for her but she refused to put the phone down to actually take care of her children. Sham ann should of never had children that she did not want to care for.
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I don't understand why any of this is going on! Why does this even happen? Control? I'm having a difficult time with why anyone would talk to there kids in this manner! Why can't she just get out?
So many kids are being exploited on social media and it needs to stop. They are being forced to help bring in money to support their family by constantly having a camera in their face. I am not saying Shannann deserved what happened to her. I believe she had good intentions & loved her kids.
That’s right, this is an awesome comment. You said it better than I have. Thanks for the comment!
Lessons learned by those who pay attention. 1-Not all husbands want their life on social media. 2-The more we post our perfect life on social media, the more someone out there will want it or ruin it. 3-If Shannan had a tough time with two babies Why does she post a "Woops We did it again"? -kids should never be used as social, religious OR entrapment Pawns!
I agree.
@@dejavu8602 Good points.
well channels on youtube are also exploiting this beautiful family don't you think by posting negative videos on here to gain views and subs ..so sad that people are doing this
This was heartbreaking to watch but yout commentary is respectful and spot on. Ty for giving these sweet girls a voice
thank you so much for your comment. It means a lot to me. I’ve caught a lot of hate for this video but I’m keeping it up because I standby it. Thank you so much.
Sw was disgusting- she and Chris didn’t deserved those girls. Her baby voice she does “no no” is gross.
I wonder how Bella felt about CeCe getting all the attention. It doesn’t seem like she’s resentful of her. Nobody seems to ever be paying attention to Bella. I don’t see Shannan in Bella’s room after a nap, video taping her. It’s always about CeCe. Poor Bella. I also wonder why there speech is so delayed. The parents did only spend about 2 hours with them a day. $500 a week for school. You would think that would have helped. Around here we have a free program for delayed kids called early intervention.
Bella was always left out of videos no one even talked to her or held her
It breaks my ever-loving heart to see these little girls knowing what they went through. they're tragic ending 😢. I'm obsessed with this case because I feel that Justice hasn't been fully served. The fact that CW is still breathing air makes my brain want to explode.
I'm right there with you, friend!
Yes I agree not justice
@RUTHANN SMITH I completely understand how you feel.
& the LIAR WITCH That is free and clear doing whatever the heck she wants to wreck someone else’s life at any moment! Don’t tell me that ghastly woman was not involved. She was a dare her car was there you think pathetic Chris Watts could’ve done this on his own absolutely not! They both should’ve got the needle!
I feel the same way.
Bella breaks my heart every time!💔😭
I think Bella was a very jealous insecure child, I think Shannan was very stressed out by the dynamic between Bella and CeCe. Unfortunately Bella was incredibly insecure and jealous of any attention given to CeCe so she was constantly placing demands on Shannans attention through tantrums, crying fits, throwing herself in front of CeCe and so on.. IMO alot of people on this channel feel that Shannan should constantly cater to Bella's many many demands right away without questions. I had 2 sisters and my mom would always say you can't always get what you want . So in this situation insecure Bella was having a meltdown knowing that CeCe was getting Shannans attention and screaming hurry hurry. This is my opinion. Shannan is trying to teach Bella you have a sister now and you can't always get what you want. Bellas constant neediness and pestering would have stressed me out too..
You are a sick twisted individual! People complain about others who speak out on Shannon's obvious abuse. But here you are criticizing a child for having needs! You are so wrong and a horrible excuse for a person and a mother! I certainly hope you don't have children! She was probably saying it hurts in reference to the rectal thermometer her mother stuck up her ass every night! Is that even necessary?
@@m.h.6499 Cece was the next new toy/pet... How would these parents be when their third one came along.
So many times I want to say “put the phone down and take care of your children who need you!!!” The “lives” can wait!!!! They went to bed at 6:30 every night. Couldn’t she do it then? She wouldn’t be able to show how “busy” her life was if she didn’t film with them though.
I also wanted to say please put phone down let the babies live free don’t direct them what to do let them play I’m not condoning what the monster did understand that
6.30?! Thats way early.... Wtf
I heard somewhere they took all sorts of meds before bed too. I wonder if any were to help them sleep. They took naps and a bedtime of 6:30 is a lot of sleep for kids.
6:30 is absolutely insane. Shannon was a terrible mom
@@earthwaterfall1498 Yes she gave them Benadryl at bed time
I was mistreated by my Mother in a very similar fashion. I was made fun of told I was the ugliest kid my mother had. I needed glasses when I was eight, my Mom not only called me a 4 eyed monster, but she also called me fatsie. Not an ounce of fat did I have. I was far from ugly. It took a lifetime for me to realize my Mom was not well. It caused me to make many decisions in my life that I regret.
I always felt sort of a kinship to Bella, did not know why, until now, Oh and about the hair....my mom kept my hair short, I never understood why, my sisters got all the pretty things, I got hand me downs, and the weird thing about that was, I was the oldest.
thank you so much for sharing your experience and I’m sorry that you had to endure that. I know that you did not deserve it. As I was reading your message it occurred to me that perhaps I’ve always been so sensitive to the treatment of Bella, because I relate in some similar ways to what you described here. So I guess we are all kindred spirits, you me and Bella and the droves of other women and people who have that shared experience. Of all the many comments I’ve read about this case, it’s yours that spoke to me for some reason. Thank you for your honesty. I hope that today you realize how deserving you are of everything wonderful and beautiful and life and that you are wonderful and beautiful yourself. ❤️Kelly
I was my mother's scapegoat. These videos are very important, to make people more aware of abuse.
I can't believe that some people can watch these videos of how cruel shannan is to her children like ignoring Bella when she's crying out that she hurts to the point where CC completely shuts down and looks so emotionally distraught when she cannot do anything to help her sister! Those people are the sick ones that don't see what's going on here. I don't believe that anyone deserves to be murdered for being a narcissist but to see their abuse only begs for one to question her motives and mental health. It hurts me to see how she hurts those children. People that don't see it are heartless. These are children here and she's a grown woman. There's no excuse for child abuse or neglect! Nothing at all! Ask yourself would you feel comfortable treating your children like this and seeing the same reactions on their face? If you find it acceptable there's something wrong with you!
I relate
Now y'all blaming the mother WOW 🤯 she ain't here to defend herself 😡
I guess I am "heartless" and something is "wrong with" me. Thanks for the education.
@nancyminui very very very well said. I totally agree with you.
All the people in the comments whining like babies saying crap like 'Just let them rest in peace already'......You dont have to be here, just go away. People are obviously fascinated by this family and case and want to know as much as possible. Why does that bother you so much, why even click on these vids then. Just whining just to whine. Seriously get lost.
Well said. I can't believe Kelly has to deal with these comments. I haven't read entire thread but, wow. And super rude, to boot. I don't get it. Watts is where he belongs, but like it or not, there's huge interest in this case. Everything about it will be discussed for years. It's an important case and it behooves us, as a society, to understand as much as possible.
Teaching that mommy can’t be depended on to get me out of the crib when she clearly sees what I want to do, or go quickly to my sister who has been calling out for MOMMY, over & over & says it is hurting. IMO, possibly due to the daily rectal 🌡 in place that hurts. This is so upsetting to me as both an RN & mother. I would’ve picked up CeCe & said, “come on, let’s go check on your sister & see what Bella needs.” I can’t just gloss over this posted video. I have to wonder why she would post this as cute & fun. 💔😢
I totally agree with this comment. it’s hard for me to watch and understand and i really do believe there is an important lesson to be learned through the example… Thanks for taking time to comment.
I completely agree. She was neglecting and tormenting the children by filming them and by ignoring their needs. How she could refuse to attend to her child who kept crying out is something I cannot understand. I'm sure that the children could not understand it either. All she had to do was put the camera down and be a parent.
EXACTLY
That rain machine I only heard about until now. It sounds like an old tv that has lost reception. It is an awful noise. That is torturous. Rain can sound so peaceful on some of the meditation sleep music I listen to. It doesn’t ever sound like this. This is more than white noise. It is forceful sensory torture. Yuck who would buy that junk???
I noticed it to. poor Bella always tried to get attention She talked baby talked a lot too.
CeCe was still in diapers at three and couldn't even speak an intelligible sentence. Both of those girls were probably going to be in special ed.
@@a.p.3045Shannon had no time or love for them.
What was the point of just filming her like that and not letting her get out of the crib.. that was weird af
I could feel the tension in this house when I watched these videos. The one where Shannan finally got her pro bars was a hard one to watch. I felt so sad for Bella. The one where they’re all baking is hard to watch too. Shannan always pretended things were perfect when she was LIVE but that family was far from perfect. Kids feel that tension too. They know something is off. Chris loved those girls so much and I just don’t understand how he could’ve killed Then like he did. I just don’t get it at all. May those babies rest in peace. ❤❤
Yessssss I totally relate!
GREAT POST...IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THE "LIVING LIFE ON FACE BOOK LIVE" AND THE ENSUING TENSION WAS A FACTOR..IT CAUSED THE MORAL FLAW IN HUSBAND/FATHER TO MANIFEST IN THE AFFIAR..IT ALSO CAUSED UNHAPPINESS AND CONFUSION IN THOSE POOR PRECIOUS CHILDREN..I HUMBLY BELIEVE THE CONSTANT LIVE STREAMING CONTRIBUTED IN A MORE SINISTER WAY AS WELL...WHEN ONE IS CONSTANTLY LIVING ONE'S LIFE ON LIVE STREAM ONE CAN NOT BE CERTAIN WHO IS ACTUALLY WATCHING ! IS IT POSSIBLE A CERTIAN PERSON WHO HAD TRIED AND FAILED AT AN M.L.M. FOUND THIS FAMILY THROUGH THE LIVE STREAMS?? IS IT POSSIBLE THIS PERSON GREW TO HATE THE MOM DOING THE LIVE STREAMING BECAUSE THE MOM APPEARED TO BE A TRUE SUCCESS AT M.L.M AND HAD THE PERFECT HOME ,PERFECT HUSBAND , PERFECT KIDS, ETC. ?? IS POSSIBLE THIS PERSON MADE IT HER MISSION TO MANUEVER INTO THE LIVES OF THIS FAMILY AFTER TARGETTING THEM THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND GOOD OLD GOOGLE?? IS IT POSSIBLE THIS PERSON WAS RESEARCHING THIS TARGETTED FAMILY FOR WELL OVER YEAR BEFORE THIS PERSON INJECTED HERSELF INTO THEIR LIVES BY BECOMING EMPLOYED AT THE SAME PLACE THE HAPLESS , WEAK WILLED HUSBAND WORKED.??.AND THEN OUT OF ALL THE SINGLE MEN IN THE AREA DECIDES TO CHOOSE THE MARRIED GUY TO GET WITH...WITH..IS IT POSSIBLE MIND CONTROL AND PERHAPS THE DARK ARTS WERE EMPLOYED MAKING THE WILLING HUSBAND/FATHER PREPARED TO DO THE DEMONCIALLY UNTHINKABLE?? THE OFFICIAL NARRITIVE TO THIS HORROR STORY IS THE HUSBAND/FATHER RIDDED HIMSELF OF HIS FAMILY IN THE MOST HORRIFIC OF WAYS SO HE COULD SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE WITH HIS MISTRESS ! SO AFTER LIVING A LIFE THAT WAS CRIME FREE HE COMMITTS HIS FIRST CRIME BY MURDERING HIS ENTIRE FAMILY AND PRE BORN SON IN A WAY THAT MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AWAY WITH, HE THEN GOES ON TO RAMBLE ON AND ON WITH THE POLICE WHEN HE DID NOT HAVE TOO, TAKES A POLYGRAPH TEST HE HAD NO CHANCE OF PASSING , NEVER SEEKS THE AID OF AN ATTORNEY BEFORE MEEKLY CONFESSING..IN OTHER WORDS HE DOES EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO ENSURE HE WOULD NEVER SEE HIS MISTRESS AGAIN !! THIS CASE MAKES NO SENSE ..IT APPEARS HE WAS NOT ALL THAT THRILLED WITH HIS WIFE OR HE WOULD HAVE NEVER CHEATED..BUT HE LOVED HIS DAUGHTERS..AS YOU KNOW MEN ARE GENETICALLY WIRED TO PROTECT THEIR BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN SPECIFICALLY AND ALL CHILDREN IN GENERAL THIS KEEPS OUR IMPERFECT HUMAN RACE GOING..SO WE ARE TO BELIEVE THE HUSBAD / FATHER MURDERS HIS CHILDREN SO HE COULD BE WITH HIS MISTRESS YET DOES SO IN A WAY THAT ENSURES HE WILL NEVER SEE HIS MISTRESS AGAIN AFTER CONFESSING TO THE CRIMES THREE DAYS AFTER HE COMMITTS THEM..?? NO I AM SORRY THIS CASE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME UNLESS ONE ALLOWS FOR MIND CONTROL..YES I BELIEVE THE HUSBAND / FATHER WILLING ALLOWED HIS MISTRESS WHO'S ONLY MOTIVE FOR HER ACTIONS WERE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE MOM AND ALL SHE LOVED TO PLACE HIM UNDER MIND CONTROL..! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THIS UGLY MYSTERY MAKES SENSE FOR ME ! SORRY FOR THE LONG REPLY !
Maybe he didn't...
@@cherylmcelveen2817 just curious who do you think did and what was their motive? For me it’s the motive. I get why Chris would want to kill Shanann, but I don’t get why he’d hurt the girls.
@@Lindsey0007 you get why chris would want to kill Shannon? . I swear, people on here are deranged af
So hard to watch. Just put the phone away - get CeCe out… you’ve acknowledged that it’s time to get up and out of the crib, yet you’re standing there filming and not assisting her - then scolding and shaming her when she attempts to get herself out… being autonomous which is actually admirable, showing that she’s a “big girl” and can do so without help. Most parents would have quickly grabbed CeCe up, set her down and then rushed to check on the second child who’s begging for assistance and screaming in pain.
Are you talking to the dead ?!
@@Olynn10 Was there a need for your comment?
I totally agree!
Absolutely,,,,in all retrospect #Shanann was not a great parent,,,,she always was filming and totally ignored her first priorities!!!!!
@@florencedagrossa3442 are you actually for real ???? Not a great parent ?? Their father murdered them and you’re here speaking ill of the dead !! Shame on you !! Disgusting!! You’re all that’s wrong in this world
Why is she forcing her toddler to stay held in a pen and filming it? Surely they have a big garden or room full of toys? Advice to any young women who dream of having kids and a fake rich lifestyle, make sure you have a solid career where you can work for yourself like a nutritionist, physio etc where you're not beholden to Pyramid scams!
She ended rhis insipid live video rather abruptly and said the dog would be fresking out. I wonder if the repo man was there for the unpaid furniture! Or pissibly CPS of she was there alone with the children and wasnt supposed to be. She was a loser of life
What was wrong with Shanaan filming her children's suffering day to day, poor cece is so stressed in that crib, who does this? Her mommy skills are all about strict rules, tight schedules, to many naps throughout the day, in bed by 6:30-7on, restricts their water intake, day care for a stay at home mom, really !!
Let's pick apart a murdered woman and her murdered children! ALL PARENTS make mistakes and by no means is there a perfect parent. My adult daughter is a kind and considerate well-adjusted young woman and I can tell you that if I had some of my tough parent days on video I could easily be criticized!
Shannon posted this on Facebook. It's all about control and let's put my children lives on Facebook. Shannon should have put her phone down those children were suffering
@@bellpeppergreen8602 They sure were when there crazy ass sperm donor snuffed their lives out!
Some of us recognize that Shannan was more than just an imperfect mother. She was an extreme malignant narcissist who used her family as props and choreographed almost all her life on Facebook. Too many women believe her propaganda. She was a real sicko who deserved to be ignored, but not murdered!
@@lesliepickens nah it was that dirt clod she was married to that was the covert / malignant narcissist
If you're informed enough you would know that a malignant narcissist is the type that actually enjoys bringing other people pain, and or that weaponizes their narcissism
And they use the covert side to cover it up, to lure and ensnare innocent people...
Make them think they are kind , charming, emotionally intelligent men or women and they are not as Chris Watts was not
And it can take years to catch on to who they really are they keep it hidden well
But behind closed doors I'm sure she was suffering, perplexing psychological things going on, I've lived with one of these types of men before unfortunately
And for a long time you'll just do the best you can to cope, because it's just so perplexing, they are really like having another child...
Yes I'm sure everything she did was affected..
And hell I know mothers that do all that stuff everyday, and they don't even sell thrive or belong to MLM..
Plenty of well-adjusted wonderful mothers everyday and it depends on what your idea of a wonderful mother is anyway
What I want to know is who set the damn standard for that all of a sudden?
I raised two boys 14 months apart, and like one of the other women mentioned earlier, if some of my tough days as a parent were to be scrutinized, I would be judged as well, so what
I know I was a damn loving mother who did my very best, so much so that my children's psychological and otherwise well-being was so important to me
But since I was raised in an abusive childhood and dysfunctional, I made sure to stay in therapy all those years, and constantly educated myself, on child psychology etc
But I'll tell you one thing if I'd had the technology that Shannon had or some of these girls today
I would have non-stop recorded my children come oh my God how I would love to look back over 20 years and hear my baby's voices, watch them as infants and toddlers on video!!!
And dang right I would post it on Facebook for my other friends to see in fact as I said earlier
Many normal mothers, who love their children dearly, that I personally know
Post every single day wonderful things going on with their children
in fact I have watched several family members and Friends children from birth to teenage years literally grow up on Facebook!
And I just adore it!
, I look forward to it, it makes me so happy to see the little infants and the toddlers and the stages they go through ,the cute little things they are wearing and doing saying! my God....
🙄🙄🙄🙄
It's something that we do, it is the age that we live in, and she was doing nothing any more abnormal than any other mother out there is still doing to this day!
So what, she was doing her job sometimes at the same time and included her family in it, big deal.
I'm a lot like her, and I don't sell any type of thrive, or bive or hive or any other MLM
But I like my environment to be clean , orderly, well decorated I'm creative and motivated,
I do have an anxiety disorder with obsessive compulsive traits, which causes me to yes
Want my environment even more orderly
But it does not reflect that I am on the high end of the narcissistic spectrum, that I don't care about my children!
, or that I was using my family as props to be perfectionistic for some reason
Not at all, and I can provide copies of my psych eval for anyone who would like to see it.
,all I have is an anxiety disorder, no personality disorders, and I am not suffering from any type of mental illness
Sometimes people with anxiety disorders, or who are just particular, get so unfairly judged it's ridiculous.
Furthermore, we all have some narcissism to some degree or another...
So what ,
most of us also have compassion and empathy for others and we don't let that narcissism make us so entitled and deranged that we think we can wipe out our whole family and get away with it just to get what we want.
I think people should keep the focus on the real Disturbed person and not the victims..
In some negative light.
I agree, most mothers out here that are seeing these disturbing extremely scrutinizing comments of this other mother, who can't even defend herself now who had her life taken away
And they're all just..... Yawn.... Give us a break...🙄
And wondering if some of these people even have children at all?
They don't seem to be speaking from a place of experience..
If they had they'd be far more understanding and clued in.
Save the scrutiny for the predators and the real low lifes,and the actual problems in this world...
Stop supporting them and basically sending the message that they are entitled to keep getting away with horrific crimes and abuse to others by bashing their victims that's just what they want!
Sorry but it's those people who have consumed the Kool-Aid of the highly manipulative narcissistic types that want you to believe that the victims are in fact the abusers and the problematic ones.
Some of us have actually seen and lived through bad mothering...
S*** I wish I had a mother like Shannon.
In my home children were seen and not heard, and it wasn't good if you got out of line..
So, I don't see anything in any of her videos that acted abusively., In most of her videos she's extremely loving and attentive, not all of the videos were about thrive, many times just enjoying an activity being extremely loving and patient with the girls
There are times in every parent's life where we cannot have all of the perfect answers, perfect patients, and we all have days where, we are going to take care of something we want to get done first
Period. Just that simple, and it does not mean we're abusive or neglectful at all, it means that we spend most of our lives attending to our children's needs putting them first as a priority, giving all of our energy and love and sometimes by gosh a parent is going to take a few minutes for themselves and the little child has to wait
And no, not just one incident or even every once in awhile incident of that is going to damage that child psychologically
Again the people saying this it just really indicates to me that they must not be raising children or have ever had children
I loved my babies with everything, and I was very in tune to their psychological well-being, extremely mindful of that at all times however
Depending on their ages, they learned patience and they learned to wait
Of course being mindful of it being age appropriate, when they are developing their understanding of things, it's best to have a well-balanced approach
Children have to be taught both that the parents will be attentive and that they can be trusted, and they will be there for them and at the same time children also have to start learning
Discipline, patience, self-soothing, because when they go to school, if they don't learn these things they're going to expect the teacher to drop everything and be attentive strictly to only their needs, and they may go into the world unbalanced
I know a grown man right now who is so emotionally disregulated, that he literally expects everyone to drop everything and be there for him instantly, this man has no clue how to self-soothe,
Or entertain himself, he uses people for energy and entertainment
And there is nothing worse than seeing a grown man who cannot sell soothe, who somehow missed these lessons in childhood or the balance was off with the parenting or some type of trauma
This is where we start seeing real narcissism...
On very high levels, I'm not sure how many people have lived with the depths of it or been close to it
But it's a lot more deeper, darker, and emotionally regressed, than a lot of people are aware of
Almost like middle-aged toddlers and they are so ashamed of it and feel so inferior that they keep it hidden well except behind closed doors you start picking up on it
There's a lot more to high narcissism than just people taking selfies and flashing about.
@@lesliepickens sounds like Bella may have been using the bathroom...
I know people have made up all kinds of theories about where Bella actually was whether she was in her bedroom something about locked in the bedroom come all this different crap
But it makes more sense to me that the little girl was using the bathroom
And I remember back when my boys were that age, exactly close in age like CC and Bella
Sometimes they would be afraid of the toilet...
And in fact my younger son had a terrible anxiety disorder growing up which he later outgrew
He was very phobic, and sometimes he had irrational fears of things that weren't really happening
And thank goodness I was experienced in anxiety disorders, suffering from it myself, and years and years of therapy and work research
And so I was very careful with my child not to invalidate him or make him feel more anxiety
And most of the time I would humor his irrational phobias, and help him through it very gently, and comfort him until it passed
But there would be occasions where as a mother, I just could not indulge him at that time, for whatever reason...
I'm a human being, and having two children, maybe it would be a day that I was hormonal, or didn't quite have the energy
There would be some days that I just didn't stop drop and run and attend to it right that second
It did not mean I didn't love my child, and that I was not on a regular basis most attentive to him and his needs because I was
But I can totally see me standing in the bedroom filming my younger child if I'd had this technology...
While giving my other child time to finish pooping!
Which is seems exactly like what she was doing..
We are not behind closed doors with them, those people know their routines...
It may have been that Bella was on the potty, and Shannon knew that she was finishing up, she was perfectly fine...
And I didn't hear anything that sounded like" it hurts"
But if she did say that, then I think we all know what that would indicate...
And well there's not really much one can do about painful potty time...
Yes we can drop what we're doing and run into comfort the child, as I'm sure she did every single time
I did a lot of the same myself as I said, I would drop everything and be very attentive to both of my children when they needed it
But if I knew in the back of my mind, exactly what my child was doing, come on she was a mother, she had radar she knows every voice tone, just like we do with our children and our pets
I knew every single different voice tone of my child whether they were truly truly in an emergency or not
Just like I know every distinct sound my dog makes and hell he can't even speak and express himself
But I know the difference between my dog is not okay, and oh he's fine he's just whimpering and whining, or he just wants a treat or he actually really needs to go outside, or all kinds of different things
we parents know our children, and I don't feel like it was anything in this particular video that was emergency enough to where she needed to drop everything and break her neck and get in there
And I feel like if it had been, she would have done so the end.
And sometimes we parents just flat out take too much time doing something else, we are human, we are going to be a little slow sometimes, we are going to put our kids off on occasion oh my God
How many parents haven't done that?
But for the most part as long as the child is attended to, on a regular basis and cared for then the child will be fine
Wow I can't even believe the way people are taking this so so far out of context.
That's why I'm thinking people that haven't had children because they just don't have the same insight as a real parent
Hell my kid sat on the toilet before....
Calling to me it's that same voice tone, meanwhile with a comic book on his lap, and when I would get in there he'd be just fine...
Just saying rather than bash her and not give her the benefit of the doubt as just another normal mother..
I don't get it.
For God's sake let them rest in peace!!
Agree with you
Beth, Well said but obviously there is NO Godliness in this PILE OF BILGE!!
It’s UA-cam she is allowed to talk about public videos. I recommend for you not to go on youtibe channels that are going to trigger you.
@@kimmymarky9538 I recommend you keep your vapid “recommendations” to yourself!
Helt utrolig at det sitter en gjeng bedrevitere på UA-cam og analyserer alt som blir gjort og sagt i disse hjemme videoene?? SKAM DERE!!
I always picked my kids up right away out of their cots when they were little. I never stood filming them constantly telling them off. It's very sad they were murdered but shanann wasn't a good mum she was obsessed with her phone and her kids were not her number 1 priority
Kid's were not for her
I was thinking the same thing. Why doesn't SW just take CeCe out of the crib instead of recording her & go see what's going on with Bella??
@@nanali7245 I agree..It is horrific, that she allowed Bella to beg and plead like that
who the hell do you think you are? You have no facts no way these kids were recorded nonstop. Nor abused! While I am not a fan of constant filming and esp. not putting kids faces on social media. This witch talking about a dead mom & kids should be ashamed! You have no damn idea that kids don't show things like adults scientifically. Shame on you! Making money off lying about a great mom & kids.
@@nanali7245 Right. Film her, pick her up, and walk and talk and go see Bella. None of this is natural for the kids.
Telling CeCe "No, ma'am" Yes. and MmmmmHmmmm. MmmmHmmmmm. I'm a full grown adult and I don't understand what she was trying to tell CeCe, teach her, or get her to do?
Why was she so focused on CeCe when Bella kept calling for her telling her to hurry?
Everything's a performance. CeCe was very energetic, outgoing, expressive and played to the camera or to mommy's approval. Jump if mommy likes it. Whack-a-daddy (hitting her dad's head while sitting on his shoulders) was encouraged and CeCe decided to up the ante: she spit on CW's head. SW said right away, "No spitting!" And CeCe went back to hitting. So, no spitting. Not funny Okay hitting. Hitting ppl on their heads it FUN-NEE! SW seems more like the older cousin teaching the girls not good things. Encouraging them to do things that would be a problem for them socially. No hitting. No spitting. No biting. Oh, and Daddy, no annihilating your family for the girlfriend.
I do not see how Shannan/Shannon is not accountable for the way she parented and/or the extend to which she posted.
1) she wasn’t a young mom in her 20s
2) she was t in a situation where could could not work outside the home
There are lots of moms in their 20s who cannot afford daycare so they have to try to find a way to make money at home. That is not Shannan/Shannon‘s situation.
There is no excuse for what Chris did. Shannon is a victim of a heinous, horrible crime.
But that does not absolve her of decisions and choices that she made .
Bing the victim of a crime does not instantly wash away everything that you’ve done Shannon can be the victim of a vicious, horrible man and simultaneously be a poor mother. They are not mutually exclusive.
The fact that neither of the girls can speak properly was a huge clue to the neglect and abuse they dealt with. Bella looks so sad and defeated trying to keep up with cece the golden child myst of been sad and exhausting.
I agree, Isabella. Sadly. I wish they all had more time to enjoy life more, for longer, they all deserve it and so much more. How could anyone decide they have the right to take those lives? It’s mind boggling. Always will be.
I agree. My niece is 3 years old and he speaks almost as we adults do.
@@LauRa-re9un and bella was supposed to start kindergarten...she would of been so far behind
@@isabellavalencia8026 Yeah
@Gela White This is not a space to hate on an innocent child.
Every video she does is an infomercial. She should do what Bella says…put the phone down and engage with your girls without an audience.
People saying how great mother she was are delusional.
Filming every personal moment
Intrusive
Voyeur
Control the narrative
Control control
Why is that sound machine so loud jeeze holy crap. And watching her torment her girls and film it makes me so uncomfortable. How do you ignore your baby while watching the other struggle to get out and help her sister just odd and cold
yikes. This is maddening. I don't even know why she is filming so much, it seems like all it is is the kids saying "put down the phone and play with me".
I can’t believe how long she Kepted saying to Bella that she’d be right there!!! To me this is totally sad 😢!!! Bella probably couldn’t get out of her bedroom!!! RIP!!! Two Precious Little Angels 👼 👼❤️🩹💔❤️🩹💔✅💯‼️🙏🙏!!!!
She used them kids as props! Anyone seen the Santa video. Or better yet the cookies video or even worse, eating in front of the girls, when they said they were hungry. Them kids would have had PTSD by the age of 10. Chris was her personal slave.
Does no one not found it strange that she wouldn't get Bella out when she has just woke up. And Bella shouting for her mum saying it's hurting and she just carries on film ce ce. I'm sorry people there's so many videos of her being abusive to her kids! They was in bed most of the time doped up! She said she was a stay at home mum but they was at childcare all day! While she was doing there's stupid videos! Paying all that money for childcare and she's at home day! She would have been better off getting herself a full-time job so they could afford to pay there bills! And she was always saying I need me time she was at home 8 hours a day! Then she was putting them to bed at 6.30 it was just crazy!
You make several GREAT points here! 🙏🏼
I wish people wouldn't pull Shannan to bits in videos no matter what she did in life She didnt deserve to die let her rest in peace with her 3 babies none of us mothers are perfect and all of you commenting slagging her off shame on you all you didnt know what went on behind closed doors just what we see in videos
It bugs me has well bev
@@christinelegallais6031 it's sad to see that they can pull a dead woman to bits especially under the horrific circumstances
I agree! I feel so sad when I read the comments here. It’s all really a tragedy and these comments are not needed!
I totally agree with you bev. People that live in "glass houses shouldn't throw stones", especially who can't speak for herself.
@@reneecalvert4153 exactly none of us are perfect it's sad to see 🥰
Its like she enjoys seeing the kids distressed,its sick sick sick sick
Those poor little babies never had a chance
I do not like what I see here. I feel very sorry for these wonderful little girls. I can not imagine making my little ones wait, because my face has to be on the phone with strangers. She surely did not deserve to be murdered, but she was not prefect.
Love.
I guess that none of us are perfect.
@@EYE_GOTCHA Isn't that the truth. I try to say that in different ways time and time again and I truly mean it... in regards to Shanann. She was a human being with strengths and flaws like the rest of us. Thanks for taking time to comment.
Are you perfect?
At least she was with her kids, my first 5 kids, was born in 5 years, and i know how challenging it was for me, and because we are only Human, i got tired
She was so miffed at their lack of tricks for the cam but she literally never taught them anything! Even when Bella counted in spanish, SW was shocked and praised the daycare. I can’t remember her ever saying “look what we learned today!” I’m so curious about her upbringing
Why was Shanann always making these girls stress more than they had to be. Just get the baby out of the crib instead of filming all that time. It's like that in all the videos which usually leads to one or both crying in the end out of frustration. It's very strange to me someone pushing their kids to those limits constantly. I don't understand.
I too have a feeling those kids were not treated well by her. Just something I have always felt …
Just having her phone record so much of their lives was a bit overwhelming, to say the least.
My opinion is all…
I think it’s time all mothers have a conversation about “sharenting” aka filming their kids and sharing their lives without their consent. I don’t believe in it and as much as I want to show my kids off because they’re adorable and awesome, I don’t think it’s ultimately in their best interest. There are too many creeps out there and the kids may become resentful of this intrusion of privacy as they get older.
@@user-od4zo1ow6d This is a really good point. I used to share pictures of my kids until I woke up and questioned why ... it was attention seeking. Pure and simple. Now I question every social media post that anyone posts... what is the point of this? Shameless brag? At least own it haha! I'd stopped posting by the time my kids were old enough to question it ... now if I even take a pic my son says "do not show that to ANYONE!" What I can not BEAR about Shanann was the constant "say hi!" why??? Did anyone care? Did anyone want those kids interrupting her videos to say hi? What was the point?! The worst part was when the kids would say "no" and Shanann kept going on at them to say hi until they gave a bored "hi" just so they could get on with what they were doing!
I don’t know that Bella pleading for her mom to put the phone down means that Bella is neglected. Kids plead and whine for attention whether they’re neglected or not. I was a big whiner and attention seeker and I had a mom who was with me all day every day and was a great mom. Bella seems like a major attention seeker too. She was always whining and complaining about something. If you give in to a child, like that, you will turn them into a brat. This is nothing against Bella. Many kids are like this and have to be taught. That’s part of being a kid. You have to be taught. It could very well be that Shannan was not paying attention to her kids at all, but it is equally plausible that Bella was just an attention seeker and a whiner. 🤷🏻♀️
I dont think the kid can be blamed. Too young. She knew her parents thought she was a loser so she kept trying. Little kid ways.
@@joenot5746 Wasn’t blaming her at all. I only mentioned it in the context that she had issues Shannan was trying to correct. That’s a parent’s job - to correct the issues. Sometimes that involves not giving in to a child’s every demand. Every kid has issues. They’re kids. They’re supposed to. I don’t think her parents thought she was a loser.
@@LaurenSmith-e9w it’s a sad sad situation. I only recently began watching/reading about it. I shouldnt say “loser”. I guess I mean weak or frail or introverted. Thanks!
Positive energy. Not when it comes to her children 🧒. She’s a mom. What did she think children do?
Yes Bella was locked inn her room they both were. Wouldn't want them getting out and disturbing her 'me time'
Thank you.
Just more of S. Munchausens syndrome control of her girls.
I agree with you completely regarding cece's expressions with bella calling out. I see it too. Great descriptions.
Shannan was abusing both of those girls but especially Bella. She obviously cut her hair and not very nicely most of the time. Meeting Nichol opened Chris' mind as to how fucked up his household. I think he realized that those girls were being abused and felt like he could do nothing about it.
If she had put that phone down, maybe her marriage wouldn’t have fallen apart!
She didn't care about being married give her time to set up for the back up
Both of you don't know what your talking about.
@@ronelllambert5394 exactly
It’s easy to criticize someone who isn’t her to defend herself. As a mother of two myself, I can honestly say that I was far from a perfect mother and had I filmed it and put it online I’m sure many would pull me apart for the way I raised my children. It’s easy to judge others from a screen. This woman and her kids are no longer with us, can’t you let her Rest In Peace??
It amazes me the hate she receives. So many people sitting on a high horse picking her whole life apart trying to find a way to blame her for her own death and the death of her children. For me, it makes this whole case that much more heartbreaking.
@@chelseamiranda6651 I absolutely agree with you.
@@chelseamiranda6651 she is just very unpleasant person on these videos. I really wonder who would subscribe and watch her fake videos all the time? Rip , did not deserve to die, i feel sorry for her and innocent babies.
People like to overlook the fact that all those posts and interactions was her job. A job she worked hard at to provide for her kids. I was a stay at home mum and often ignored my daughters pointless whims while doing household chores. Had I not done that, she’d have lived in filth and mess and rarely got food. Had I been recorded I’d have been branded a bad mum, had the house been unkempt and no food provided I know I’d have been a bad mum. We can’t win either way.
We are all sad about this tragedy, the watts obsession channel is an observation of what Shannon shows on her Facebook videos as this one with CC looking at her mom when Bella calls out saying mom, it hurts. Even CC is aware of a stress call to her mom and Shannon just continues to not listen to Bella calling her out mom, it hurts, when a child is calling out to a mother it’s a mother‘s instinct to go run and help your child, I guess you’re a shiners channel lover, which hides all of these parts of this sad video of Bella calling for help. It’s just sad if I were her friend I would call CPS on her immediately. You don’t do that to your kids
Welp shannan you got the attention you always wanted on social media now
MLMs cause a lot of pressure on families, both emotionally and financially.
I detest the business structure of MLMs, they’re just glorified pyramid schemes, but I feel nothing but absolute sympathy for the people who get caught up in them :(
I’ve seen so many families be ripped apart due to MLMs.
Shannan obviously loved it though and it was keeping her afloat, but I can only imagine the tension it caused between her and Chris, with her being on her phone/video calls/Facebook posting etc all the time.
But here’s an idea: maybe sit down and talk to your wife about the issues you feel have been popping up in your marriage, maybe do that instead of y’know…..having an affair and then literally killing your entire family.
Shannan was a human being and a mother, her kids were beautiful and intelligent and had a whole life infront of them, and now none of them will ever get a chance to go on and experience life because their MONSTER of a “father” took that away from them and that makes me feel physically sick.
What is MLM
@@kimberlyel82 multi level marketing
@@BubblemouseM thanks !! I knew it was the umbrella for pyramid schemes just didn’t know what it stood for
She was well aware the MLM was not keeping them afloat. She was buying the product to keep sales uo
It's not just MLMs its also the corporate world. Things are looking up but tithe work life balance in America is shit. Kids have been suffering for a long time with lack of attention by their working parents. Fathers have missed out on raising their kids because of the corporate demands to work more hours to get more money because surely it's all about financially supporting your family. I just see this as her way of engaging with the outside world for her sanity. Being a stay at home mom isn't easy for some women.
These kids were EXPLOITED by their mother!!
I think part of Bella’s problem was being first and now she has lost the time she had with her parents all to herself.
She was so adorable, bouncing up and down in her crib. How could anyone hurt such a beautiful family. Chris watts is a monster.
A Psychopath can do what he did smh
@@melissatraficante503 Yeah, right he is a horrible, monster. It is unimaginable how horrid he is, doing something like that to his own daughters and wife. Especially his 2 extremely, young, adorable, daughters though. SMH. They had barely even begun to live life. He had 0 parental instincts to protect his young children. Disgusting!
Disturbing dynamics. It’s so hard to watch Shannan and her kids. She really was the most disconnected yet domineering parent and she truly never listened to anything that her kids tried to tell her.
It’s hard to watch and think about, isn’t it? Those sweet girls…
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Thanks for posting this and also, I have to say thank you to everyone who is actually listing concerns about Shannan. Yes, she was murdered and it is the most horrific thing to happen to a family, especially the girls. They were the truly innocent ones. My point being, that because Shannan was murdered everyone made her out to be a saint, and no one ever really talked about how disturbing it was to see that she never put her phone down. You can see in almost every video of Chris, if you watch his facial expressions, he absolutely did not want that camera in his face 24/7, and neither would I. Now, that being said, he had NO RIGHT to murder his family and there are two strong opinions out there; One being he is exactly where he should be and the other is 6ft below. I agree with one of those. Now, back to Shannan. According to family members, her girls even hated having the camera in their faces constantly. They even had to practice a whole bunch. There was a video that a family member posted on social media saying that on vacation, Shannan would tell the girls to smile and say, "Hi, everyone." and wave and just be their cute little selves, like most of us moms will say to our children when recording them, but the family member, I believe it was a cousin, said that the girls were tired and they didn't want to be filmed but Shannan was so "addicted" to the camera that she refused to stop filming "until the girls got it right". She would stop the video, delete it, coach the girls, start recording, stop the video and delete it, coach the girls, start recording, stop the video and delete it, coach the girls, start recording, stop the video and delete it, on and on and on until the girls eventually started whining leading Shannan to break down and get mad at the girls because they didn't give her that picture-perfect video and sometimes her outbursts led to the girls crying. Needless to say, she didn't get the shot she wanted and it completely changed her mood. It was said that this happened almost every time she got her phone out to record. "There was never a spontaneous moment". This family member made video was posted after the murders and I think that it was removed because the comments. They were saying that the family member(s) were victim shaming. She NEVER ONCE said anything about Shannan's murder or ever implied that Shannan's behavior led to her and her children's muders. She was just sharing her personal story about how Shannan pushed the family to their brinks with her camera and incessant behavior regarding the constant filming and coaching. She even coached Chris. The video of her showing him the pregnancy test for their third baby was such an eye-opener. He was NOT happy and you can hear her coaching him if you listen to her tone and the way he looks up at her over the camera you can absolutely tell that she was shooting him a death glare off camera because his facial expression completely changes to this very inauthentic and fake smile. In a way, it reminds me of when a parent is trying to act happy and talks through their teeth while smiling to a child while trying to keep their composure. There was something wrong with her and when that camera wasn't rolling you can bet she was not this innocent, smiling, happy, grateful mom and wife. She seemed mean-spirited in a way,especially through her texts, and it was said that she constantly complained and bitched about everything. Things like gifts she received from Chris. One example given by a member of Chris' family said one Christmas she thought she was getting something she had been hinting at for a year and when she didn't get what she thought she was getting, her whole demeanor changed and the camera gets shut off. After the camera is off, she asks why she didnt get this specific thing to which im not sure exactly and then after she grills Chris and then "thanks" him for what he actually got her, the camera is back on amd she is suddenly smiling and laughing and filming everyone else opening gifts. Why? Leave it on. If you want to show your entire life then show your real life. Not the fairy tale you wanted everyone to believe. I believe that if Chris would have divorced her instead of murdering his entire family; his wife, two beautiful, innocent, baby girls, and his innocent, unborn, baby boy, things said about her would be a lot different. But, because she's a victim of a horrendous and disgusting act, no one can seem to say what was wrong with her picture. And although I know nothing of her life because I was never a part of her life, I can't truly say what really went on behind the camera or when the camera was off. But, I don't think her friends and family that came out and said that she was demonstrating disturbing and odd behavior should be chastised for speaking the truth just because she was taken from the earth. I don't share the same opinion as some, which is that she caused Chris to snap resulting in their deaths. He's nothing but the scum of the earth that didn't want another child with her, didnt want her anymore so by killing her he eliminates that "problem". Literally killed two birds with one stone. But there's a bigger "problem" now. One of his babies witnessed it so he killed her and because he killed her, he had to kill his other beautiful baby. Monster is too nice of a word for him. For him to listen to his little, baby girl ask if he's going to hurt her and then go through with it shows how absolutely loathsome and disgusting he truly was. He could have easily divorced her. Do I believe that she drove him up the wall and do I believe that if they were still alive that the older the girls got the more annoyed with their mother's camera they would've gotten? Absolutely! Do I think from what I've seen and read that she had a personality disorder? Yes, but I'm not a doctor, psychologist, therapist, etc so my opinion holds no water. It's just that; an opinion. And lastly, do I believe in Chris' mistress' innocence? That she thought he was in the middle of a divorce? HELL NO!! Mistresses always look at the wives' social media and as we all know, Shannan had no shortage of lovey-dovey photos and videos of her and Chris. Kim will never convince me that she was innocent and wasn't scheming with Chris to get rid of the "roadblocks", by way of at least a divorce, that were in the way of their future and happiness. Do I think she wanted them dead? I can't imagine her being okay with that but again, I don't really know. She very well could've known he was going to murder them or even told Chris to do it. Who knows? Only her and Chris. Anyway, HOLY COW, guys!!! I am so sorry for the horribly, lengthy comment. I just wanted to know if anyone else had seen any of the family videos talking about Shannan and her "having to have the perfect family and life on camera" obsession? Thanks everyone!
I also forgot to mention that one of the videos mentions that Shannan had a drug problem. That she slurred her words after taking too many pain pills, had terrible mood swings, would neglect the kids during those times, become disconnected, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else had heard this?
@@TorchAndWillowDesigns I haven’t heard that and I find I hard to believe I know lpeople with drug problems and she’s nothing like them. They tend to be smart and creative, if troubled rather than basic and unintelligent. They aren’t the type to ever try to reach 40k hawking an mlm, that’s for sure. Had she had a drug problem, I bet I would find her to have been more interesting.
I’m not saying it’s not true, but I wouldn’t believe it without a reliable source.