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The guy needs to unplug his fridge when he listens to music. Otherwise he will hear the noise of the fridge’s motor.
I somtimes do!
The fridge in my apt. has a noisy fan and when it turns on while listening to music, I become very angry. As I was experimenting with speaker placement, I moved the speakers closer to my listening position. Now when the fridge comes on, I am not as annoyed.
82 years old, he dosent hear it.
@Jingle Nuts No, the fridge belongs to the apartment. I had the maintenance man look at it but he said the fan was not operating incorrectly. The fridge must be an older and low-end model.
He'll eventually forget to plug it in after the listening session...... The next morning, reality sets in........
This person is retired. He has made his due and wants to indulge his passion before he dies... nothing wrong with that.
Agreed I think this brought him happiness just as some who splurge on expensive cars
He is sick
I doubt anyone would want to see their father live like this, and if you do; then you’re a fucked up son.
@@cd-rom. you can't pass judgement as it's a totally different culture
@@dentboxhero1717 bro, I’m Japanese and into audio.
You should call this new series "Audiophile judging other audiophiles"
He's calling out a lot of flaws and hypocrisies in those setups that cost something in the 6 digit area
It's informative
Judging would be negative if he said something like "his audio is so cheap, doesn't he have money to purchase something decent?"
Hello Jay, As an Electric Utility Executive in the USA, I just wanted you to know that it is legal for a customer to request a dedicated electric service for their residence, as long they are willing to pay for it. The overhead electric power installation (like what is shown in the video) could cost up to $30,000 US, depending on the customer's power source. Underground service cost will be higher.
As long as the gentlemen are happy, that is all what matters. One should be able to spend their hard earn cash on whatever they want to, even if we do not agree. It's their money!!!!
You should not have told us this. I figured it would be six figures and now that I see this as an option and at a fraction of my guess I am now figuring this into the budget of my next home ;)
@@gmak8052 😂
@@gmak8052I had a new house built just for this. Am I crazy?
You can also buy power regeneration gear... they literally regenerate high current perfect 60hz sine waves. PS Audio makes one that looks like a big amplifier and costs about 4 to $5k... not cheap but a lot cheaper than $30K for a new power installation.
This guy is like: Even audiophiles are judging me!!
He has 10 CDs and 15 albums.
LOL, or maybe we are reevaluating our priorities and our square footage again...I'm a little jealous of their space optimization :-)
We are all in shock because at some level we see ourselves in these Japanese audiophiles. lol at some point people around us had the same reactions seeing us going crazy on our systems.
I'm sure that dudes setup sounds great....basically the worlds highest end nearfield listening room...oh, and if you want a fresh beer, the fridge is DIRECTLY behind the listening position.
You may be kidding but in fact that's exactly what it is. People judging this video assume the people in it are stupid. Well they are obsessive but not stupid. If you want to listen at low volumes try it with a set of tiny computer speakers and then try it with La Scalas. There's a considerable difference.
His apartment is a mancave.
There's tons of those guys in Japan with huge speakers (mostly vintage JBL) in small ass rooms. Second guy probably only listen at low volumes to not bother his neighbors.
It's just one guy!
This is like me in my college years. I had a pair of JBL L-100s and a pair of JBL L-77s in a 70sf bedroom.
@@marcgabor9690 there are a lot. Power speaker and origami houses. Hahaha.
I really suggested you to have a audition or learn more before you make a judgement. First, these Reys 15” drivers (tad td-160x) does not boom, it does not have to be put far way from the back wall, he even modified the surround to increase the excursion (bass). Second, this tiny room is full of stuffs and these stuffs are best sound treatment. Cd positioned on the side to cover the windows and used as defusers, hanged big towels on fridge to make it behave as a absorber. His room is well thought out and had utilized everything.
Btw, those are super tweeters, can’t believe you don’t even know what it is.
His speakers are as big as the refrigerator!
No, bigger!
Those are the only cases we know, there are more extreme audiophiles there.
It gets worse..... trust me
"We have to step up our game. We are losing."
I think I’ve bought three new t shirts since I got into hi fi about 5 years ago lmao
Can't bear to see the fridge sitting in the same room .. Imagine the hum when it cuts in.. 😃
I’m actually more amused by your over reaction...
They started by loving music, but they have fallen into the gear rabbit hole. I know because I kinda have too.
I search for better sound and that requires trying and buying lots of gear :) Not that weird imo.
Ahhh shiit.. are you stuck man do you need help to get out? Ohh no i cant help you im stuck in too man AWWWW SHiiT!!!
I think were all in that hole!
@@chucksimonds5164 not me, minimalism saved me. 3 headphones is all I have and the most expensive are the 6xx bought from Massdrop. I'm addicted to pussy, that is my first passion.
How bad is it brotha?
Nice to see you are uploading frequent videos.
A former GF om mine said that if she had a turntable on her head maybe I'd pay more attention to her. I remarked....Wow how cool would that be? LOL
To each his own. If that makes them happy then yeah😁
That’s it...I’m gonna have a Tesla Powerwall installed just to run my stereo off the purest power known to man!
Actually, I’ve been contemplating that myself 🤔
pure DC power supply. i am thinking. any benefits. gear?
@@danielnicholls6868 My understanding that those powerwalls provide AC power to the entire house during power outages ( blackouts ). So technically, you could switch off the mains to the house and entire house runs off of the powerwall. Certainly, it can be wired to the dedicated rooms, outlets etc. I have seen the demonstration at one High End Show that Living Voice did with battery powered supply. It does make a lot of sense, but it does cost a lot of money too. I try to stay faithful to the mix of vintage and some new gear.
hope you have NO switching power supply in your home
@@toneysunny9283 nope
no different than rich people spending millions on paintings they might look at once a year. or owning 100 cars. or 30 homes.🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
I remember seeing that video some time ago. Pretty obsessive isn't he? In lieu of having your own power grid, I know there are some audiophiles who take themselves OFF of the power grid by way of battery-operated systems. I think Ron (NRD) noted this when he and his brother visited Danny Richie of GR Research. Danny's system (as I recall) was off the power grid / battery operated.
I believe in the U.S. the closest thing to having your own power grid is an AC regenerator like the ones from PS Audio.
My favourite audio channel now!
This video will give Darren ideas on how to fix his power situation. :)
Jay in one of your comments on a video that you made few months ago you clearly said.. one of the best way to get clean power is to pay an electrician to instal a dedicated electric line used only to power your amplifier. It was a video that you posted on power conditioners.
I was wondering when you were finally going to see this video. I definitely need to hook up the electrical pole straight to my home as well!
I have dedicated outlets directly connected to my circuit box. I look at the power lines next to his home and I think he created an island of sonic bliss to explore and enjoy. Eccentric but in a good way.
Very interesting. With just a few shots is not easy to understand their full set ups.
They look like older folks that already have put their time and now are giving themselves the pleasure of running their favorite rigs at home. That is awesome. I am very glad to see high end stuff ending on the hands of people that appreciate it, side to side with a collection of music that is as impressive
Happy Birthday, Jay!
Bigger rooms can give their own problems. The shape and surfaces of the room are usually more important.
Similar to photography, some people chase the gear rather than the craft and the picture.
The room is perhaps 50 percent of the set up. Big speakers in a small room is set up to underperform. The problem is a lack of understanding of room acoustics.
But that situation is in fact typical of the Japanese audiophile. Huge JBL K2 or Everest. I think his were K2 S5500, in very narrow rooms.
Watch KRS installation videos.
The speakers are from Rey Audio - Kinoshita RM-6VC . They are 200Kgs or 440 pounds each and loaded with TAD drivers. They're made to order and the waiting list is not exactly short. They also don't sell retail. They're primarily commissioned for large studios. The finish on his speakers is also custom- my guess is Kenrick . They've reworked quite few Kinoshitas.
Absolutely not. Those are G.T.Sound SRV-1BR.
Woofer units are GSU-W16R or GSU-W16X
Compression units are GSU-D04R
Horns are GH-301BR
The dimensions are H1300XW850XD650mm / 213kg each.
All are G.T.Sound brand.
Thanks for this, I saw this quite some time ago, was amazed!
QUESTION: What model mike are you using there? Amateur radio operator here, looking for a new microphone for the station. Thanks again!
I lived in a 580 sq ft studio apartment for 17 years, so I could have my stereo which peaked at $32,000 at the time, while saving for a down payment on my house. Now I've got a 1084 sq ft house, and my main stereo's value is nearly what I paid for my home. Everyone's got priorities. I always compare myself to this guy, so I can feel "normal", haha. I have nice stereos in several rooms actually, and a 13 channel Dolby Atmos theater. Sometimes I think about downsizing, but not yet.
If he's living in a 250 sf apartment, then he's also sleeping in the room with the stereo and the kitchenette. As another old guy, I can relate to not caring about how old my clothes are. If you keep them clean, no problem. I still have and wear graphic t-shirts that are over 15 years old.
I’m young and I still wear clothes from 15 years ago because they still fit and are still in great condition because I take care of them. Difference is I still don’t have $100k speakers to show for it lol
I don't think that guy has his own power grid. I think that he has a dedicated line to his house from the grid.
Refridgeratic Diffusion is just so cool ??? Couldn’t help myself......
Jay, there was a short documentary on UA-cam about extreme audiophiles in Athens. There was one fellow who also had a separate power line for his system. And also a great scene where one audiophile reveals the cost of his system in front of his wife. I believe parts of it can be found on the Athens Audiophile Society page. I will search for the entire documentary.
Hey, in behalf of Jay, did you find the link?
@@cd-rom. hope you enjoy it. It's short, 20 min, but fun.
"That is the most Asian thing you can say."
LOL. As a Filipino I would have to agree with this 100%. Bahahahahahaha!
The most Filipino thing you can say is if you sleep with wet hair, you might go blind
Happy birthday!
I’ve seen that video a long time ago and totally agree on prioritizing and proper speaker and room size.
9:00 yes those are ribbon super tweeters... some use 1 amp just to drive a pair of those.... but the fridge at the back won't it make some sound with the generator?
Most cities distribute electricity at a much higher voltage than you get at the plug. In my country where its 220V at the plug the local grid runs at 440V. The cross country grid runs at 11000V. That's why you have substations for a neighbourhood, their role is to step down from 11000V to 440V. And then in the street in front of your house there's another smaller step-down transformer that brings it down to 220V and shares it across a few houses. Like maybe 5 - 10 houses. If you have a large complex like a condominium or a hotel or an apartment building you may have a step-down transformer dedicated to you. All the first guy did here was ask for a dedicated last mile step-down transformer. So no, on a technical level its not a big deal. Does it really make that much of a difference? All that matters is that he thinks so, right? I know people who will pull a separate line for their rig from the fusebox in their their home or apartment. I know one who did pull a line from the 440-220V stepdown unit in the basement of his condo with special permission. I just have a little conditioner for my rig because also, that's really all that my rig justifies. And personally, if I did have a better rig I still wouldn't do this; I would set up a solar powered system with batteries and good quality DC to AC inverter that I know is giving me a steady 220V 60Hz sine wave with no noise.
Actually this was funny to watch your reaction with this video. Please do another because it was out of the ordinary.
Totally OK with the rich retired guy. I suspect he’s right and that the sound from his system is improved by having clean electricity. At his age, I doubt that he can hear every nuance of the sound but so what. It’s more dignified than some 80-year old who rides around in a Lamborghini with a young escort in the passenger seat.
True
You're right Jay, they may be TAD equipped Kinoshita monitors.
Also the dedicated transformer and service drop is a great idea. Any degree of isolation from the grid is a step in the right direction.
No. Those are G.T Sound SRV-1BR. Woofers, drivers units and horns are GT Sound brand.
@@MichaelX.773
Yes, you're absolutely right.
More "Kinoshita like" ... GT Sound has extraordinary monitor offerings.
I'm curious if any involved in the original flagship Kinoshita monitor platforms are now dedicating their efforts at GT Sound.
Thoughts?
Dude, DC battery power way outperforms AC power! Cheaper to set up also! Using inverters from battery source! And, some available amplifiers operate on DC, not AC.
Most commercial inverters are dirtier than line power. They just don't make them for audiophiles.
I love Japan and the Japanese. Their culture is still very much samurai. They will make sacrifices in daily life to excel at what they love.
As for the power. I'm sure is $10's of thousands to get that done. Maybe $50k to have your own transformer and the pole. Plus install. But, you also have to ask yourself. Did he go full copper on the wire from the transformer to the house? Did he do full copper from the panel to the outlets? Did he treat the copper by nitro/cryo freezing it, then melting it then freezing it again and then installing it? Cause, then.. Then it's good enough to power the gear.
Happy birthday Jay!
Well there are worse things you can do with your money.... Jay, what do you think of the Korean audiophile channel Fullrange? (warning-no english subtitles) My wife translated some of the commentary for me. Out of curiosity are there any Korean made audiophile brands?
These guys are what we look like to non-audiophiles
Happy birthday Jay! Appreciate the work you put into your videos!!
So true that the room is so critical to the listening experience.
I agree with you, we need to step up our game! I have an audio buddy who is almost in that situation, he has a utility pole all to himself and 2 neighbors, and never has issues with poor electric grid. He's close second. :) I have 7 dedicated 20A lines installed in the house with AWG10 wiring (capacity for 25A) for stereo. What a whimpy attempt compared to your own utility pole :).
Glad people like this gentleman exists--those that go to the extremes. So I know where my place is.
@Jey, The first audiophile didn't buy a power grid, He simply bought a utility pole with a transformer dedicated to him only. That transformer will break the 10KV or 11KV to 110VAC. He is not sharing it with anybody else , maybe to filter EMI ...etc
This is like the audiophile edition of extreme Hoarders
Hope they make more documentaries about these fascinating audiophiles
82 years old, how good are his ears? Nothing is more important than ears...
this guy is awesome. he has found happiness.
I can understand about the power transformer. There is a Audio Store in town actually did that. He has his own transformer dedicated to his store. But I am not so sure about the guy with the super big 100K speakers. I don't assume gets any kind of sound stage. I am not sure if he can turn up the volume.
People who do this at this level of madness give normal Audiophiles a bad name and a stigma that people just paint the whole hobby of loving and in joying great quality music like this
Great show Jay. In my travels this is quite common. Or due too space these people simply go with BOSE systems. I have 2000 feet with Axiom M80s😁😀
Happy Birthday lil’ Jay!!
Yes it sure is ... " Its A Mad Mad Mad Mad World " indeed . These people appear have more money than common sense and i think they are a bit overly obsessed with the hobby . Possibly just a bit unwell too .
When audiophiles laugh at you for being an audiophile, something is really wrong.
Holy cow jay... That takes audio OCD. To a whole new level. All that gear crammed into 250 square feet. Super dedicated
Your advice regarding upgrading your space/room being the biggest upgrade is most certainly correct & wise. But some well known audio reviewers apparently are not aware of this, or just don't care because their listening areas are terrible.
I just installed solar system for my house, and added two dedicated power lines to my stereo room. One of my reward for going green!
2 of my friends have multiple,600+ headphones (sundura and the abyss diana) and have more friends that spend tens of thousands spent on audio gear. I only have spent 4,000 in the last little bit. I only eat potato soup and other cheap food to cover my expenses.
Happy Birthday 🎂 Jay
I mean... a fridge right behind the couch is a good idea
I believe the gentleman is correct, a dedicated power line is the best way to eliminate power conditioner, and noise from all the electrically driven appliances, computer, and othhouse generated noise!
THIS GUY IS MY HERO!!
Some of this is a bit mad yes, but i find it highly Ironic that your making fun of someone for having an entire new power line run in, which is kinda the ultimate thing you could possibly do in terms of power provision, yet it's something you've previously recommended in a video after discussing NAIM systems in a shop that "collapsed" when you plugged it straight into the wall.
He's enjoying his life his way God bless him. Its no different that a young fella living in the same apartment with the overpriced Fast and Furious Nissan parked outside
With hifi , everybody is right and everybody is wrong. What may be strange to us is normal for someone else. This Japanese audiophile is enjoying himself and that is all that counts.
Prime example of when headphones should be his best friend.
Those are Rey Audio (Kinoshita) “monitor” loudspeakers using TAD-Pioneer woofers and compression drivers. Most likely with mods from Kenrick Sound..
No. Those are G.T Sound SRV-1BR. Woofers, drivers and horns are G.T Sound brand.
"The most important part of your sound is the room."
The room: so tiny that there's a fridge crammed behind him and every square inch is covered.
Edit: you got to it in the video. Exactly.
I'm going to look into getting my own power grid.
In Canada at least, you can just move to an area with no utilities and the power company will gladly charge you put up transmission lines & transformers. You will need 3 mortgages though.
You have to react to the Audiophile episode from the anime Akiba's trip. There is so much truth in that clip about the journey of an audiophile xD
I'm Not gonna judge. He's content so leave him be.
9:38 Seeing that guy's kitchen gave me a clinical depression.
was the low end bass boosted in post?
Thanks, Jay. I agree with your comments.
Seems like a super high performance car lover who doesn't want to spend money on a house so he can buy a Lamborghini. He buys the Lamborghini, but lives in a tent, and doesn't won't to drive his precious car on public streets with all its potholes so he builds his own little drive way that goes only around his tent. Everyday he drives his super Lamborghini around and around his tiny little driveway around his tiny little tent! Then again, he may be the happiest person earth!
I'm going to listen to music now. Refrigerator compressor goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
Mad hatters 🤪 no need to feel guilty in front of my wife anymore.
another crazy audiophile..welcome to the club lol🤣🤣🤣
You're missing the point. This is the ultimate on near-field listening!!! :-) A fine video, again. Thank you!
Happy birthday Jay
100k speakers in a studio flat!Thats what i call proper ignorance!
NO WAY is an 80 odd year old going to 'hear' any variations in the cleanliness or otherwise of electricity.
This might be me when I get older 😂
A lot of interference comes from the electricity supply. That’s why your hifi will sound better late at night. The optimum power supply is probably a very large battery which gives very pure electricity.
Meanwhile I have $300 max this year to spend on Maxwell's for audiophile sound lmao
So no on the tiny house build and Sopras?