Three Weird Sonic Games on Three Weird Devices | Punching Weight [SSFF]
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2021
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moar Sanic plz 🥰
Woa
ZEEBO ZEEBO ZEEBO
Zeebo sonic?
Also, you should pin this.
Is there a port of Sonic 1 for the Sansa (edit: the Sansa e200, which I had, which had a literal rotating wheel surrounded by four thin, tiny buttons as a method of input)?
And yes, that Sansa has an unofficial Doom port as well, that's probably one of the strangest ways to play Doom (maybe?).
The four pillars of “Available on everything!”
•Tetris
•Pac-Man
•Doom
•Sonic
Phantasy Star is almost there
Resident Evil 4
and MYST
Madden
Don’t forget Skyrim
I actually used a N-Gage as my real phone for a few years in high school. Wish I could complete my game collection.
Me too but I jailbreak it and got everything
@@okhmgm88 It didn’t really need jailbreaking. I used it for a few years and I loved that thing. It was my last non-touchscreen phone and I still kinda miss having a gaming capable phone with actual buttons.
I was early to mid 20s when I used mine as my daily driver for a few years, but loved it, too.
I have memories of playing THPS on the Ngage during summer school and blowing all the other delinquents minds with portable THPS
@@retro_jojo3159 It also ran a surprising number of emulators. The gameboy emu even had link cable emulation via Bluetooth or Infrared. Can’t recall which. I was able able to complete the pokedex for the first time in R/B on the Ngage.
One detail I like in Sonic pocket adventure is that it technically is the bridge between classic and modern Sonic. Sonic is featured with his Adventure design in the game, with his sprite even having green eyes, and Eggman changes to his Sonic Adventure clothes near the end of the game.
"Is that Nelly Furtado? Nope it's Sonic The Hedgehog!"
If I had a dollar for every time I got those two confused...
I look at the thumbnail, and what do I see? Sonic the Hedgehog on a NeoGeo Pocket Color, a Nokia NGage, and an IPOD. This is EXACTLY the reason I love Punching Weight.
"I *love* them clicky-clackies!"
-Derek Alexander, 2021
If stuck up PC gamers made a portable console.
It's louder than a mechanical keyboard on crack.
"Uncle Derek gotta do the dirty work because Jhonny and Anthony are cowards". Amazing line, should've come with an @ to really call em out 😂😂
They know who they are.
Presumably SomecallmeJohnny and Antdude.
I heard "Johnny" in a Sonic video and instantly knew who Derek was talking about. But Anthony? That one wasn't clear to me at all.
@@AlexRN AntDude. "Anthony" is his full first name, and of course you can get "Ant" from that.
@@adis3202 Delete this. It's supposed to be implied and subtle dammit
Man I got to say, your commitment to the weird and forgotten inspired me to create an entire UA-cam channel around the Cult 90s film Waterworld
You mean that film about a dude looking for the Netherlands after some giant flood?
@@relo999 Yep that's the one! The polar ice caps have melted due to global warming and flood the entire world. Kevin Costner's character is in search of the fabled "Dryland" which is actually the top of Mount Everest.
ah yes the virtual boy game turned flop film
Keep it up my dude. Awesome content for years.
Making fun of the N-Gage and sidetalking is one of the first internet memes I ever remember directly experiencing.
It was like having a taco glued to the side of your head XD
The early 2000s had some pretty wacky cell phone designs in general.
Yes, i was so excited when i saw the community post for this
finally a full review of SonicN after johnny and ant wouldn't do it
now I can safely purchase the game
I never had the chance to buy it but I wanted to. Unfortunately I spent all my n-gage time on the game "512mb mmc" :(
Who is Johnny and Ant? ;
@@marcelinelover5 the UA-camrs Somecallmejohnny and AntDude did a collab video on the Sonic Advance series. They skipped over the n-gage port of Sonic Advance as a bit (or maybe they were serious)
One last detail about the launch model Ngage. The designer, frustrated that all his previous design submissions kept getting rejected and ready to just move on to other projects, eventually decided to submit one last design as a joke before resigning. This design was based on a funny little image he had seen, one you can surmise if you change the button layouts on either side of the grey center area into fingers and the grey area itself into a certain human orifice.
And now I can't not see it. That was a blast from the past, thankyou...?
I was watching old ssff videos from 4 years ago and barely realize I was watching a new video I think that goes to show how much quality thay put into their videos no matter of the time or place.
I tried telling people back in the day how I had sonic on my ipod, and the response was unusually "you mean like the soundtrack?"
It feels like Sonic is the platformer DOOM. It's on everything.
NES, SNES, N64, Playstation & Gameboy have not a single Sonic game
One of the longest developed Sonic fan games uses the DOOM engine lol
Thank you both for the information! I never knew either facts. Aside from arcade games it does feel like Sonic is one of the most heavily ported titles.
@@Mr_x_19922 NES, SNES, and Gameboy technically had "Sonic" games if you count bootlegs and homebrew games lol
Doom was also on the gba and sonic was too
9:27 We fightin?
Bruh what are you doing here
WHY HELLO ANTDUDE92!
@@cakelayer The man's gotta stand his ground.
I think he called out SomeCallMeJohnny, and advent Sonic reviewer, as well.
He really just called out ant dude and somecallmejohnny, I'm dying
I'll never un-see that the N-Gage's design was literally inspired by the infamous Goatse image.
I don’t think it was _inspired_ by goatse. That would be incredibly odd, to say the least, that a company would design their commercial electronics device off the image of a man stretching his asshole open. I think people on the internet of the time simply drew comparisons between the two, and it’s stuck around ever sense. The system was such a joke and a flop in and of itself, so of course it’s legacy is largely tied to an obscure internet joke.
That being said, if I happen to be wrong and the system actually was inspired by that image, that is literally my favorite thing I’ve learned in recent memory.
did I hear that right?
Nothing says attractive handheld design than Goatse.
@@theinternetexplorer7873 I mean, if there was a design based on tubgirl, it would probably rival it.
@@icyatlasartworks audibly cackled.
Gizmondo widescreen, am I right?
I legitimately totally forgot there was even games on the iPod. That's a real embedded memory that's been dug out haha
Hey Derek, I just got finished binging your uploads again and wanted to say thanks for all you guys do. I know you put in so much effort into these videos and it shows. Your consistent up-beat view of everything has helped me a lot recently and I'm so happy you get to do something you have a passion for. Dont let life beat you down and keep striving to bring us all a new way to view these bizarre gems of our world.
9:12 "Where do you think that _Neo_ came from?" The Sonic 2 Simon Wai proto which not only was made public around 1998, but also had Aquatic Ruin under the temporary title of "Neo Green Hill".
The way my heart swelled when Uncle Derek said "Past Mortem is returning"
I found sonic on leapfrog at a goodwill annnnnddd now I have regrets I didnt buy it.
Fun Fact:
Sonic Pocket Adventure is supposedly exclusive for the NGP Color, not for the original B&W NGP. However, if you mash Upper Left Corner on the stick + A + B while you are in the "Not Compatible with Neo Geo Pocket" screen, the game actually goes to the Sega logo and loads normally, and it's fully playable!
It's (Technically), the only NGPC game that lets you play the full game on the vanilla NGP like this.
I've been binging your content during my meals a lot lately, and as a huge Sonic fan, I was super excited to see this on my feed!
Keep up the awesome stuff! This channel is my favourite :)
Worth noting on that fantastic iPod version:
• It ran at 320x240, which was AWESOME! It had a larger field of view than the original!
• The music was pre-rendered files, so there was a little bit of loading every time a track had to change. So if you got the speed up shoes, it would actually load in a file of a faster version of the song.
I played it most days on my way to school, and beat it so many times. I was heartbroken when I was completely unable to beat the GBA Sonic Genesis release.
Okay but for real
WHERES THE LINK FOR THE SHIRT YOU'RE WEARINGGGGG
OMG, that's a working iPod! I love these things! Got three back in the day but all of them broke (hard drives were really fragile). Now I listen to my music on spotify but I miss old iPod days.
I feel like sonic needs the doom treatment. Sonic on a fridge, sonic on a preference test, sonic on potatoes, sonic on..
I always save these new videos till right after work. I close at a Brewery Tap Room and Uncle Derek's dulcet tones reverberating around the cavernous tasting room via Bluetooth to the surround? Music to my ears. Cheers to You and Producer Grace, Derek!
The Sonic weird port rabbit hole truly is perfect Punching Weight fodder, you could mine this stuff for years.
I remember when the company I worked for got a prototype version of Sonic 1 on a Toshiba mobile phone around 2004/5 (it was sent over from Japan). The plan was to port it via J2ME to a number of devices at the time.
The Toshiba version ran very well, but the ports just wouldn't run competently (because, you know, they were on ancient handsets).
Ultimately, the company I worked for passed on the project. However, it was fun watching them trying to push devices to their limits to run one of my favourite games.
Love this video, love this channel and love the fact this has dropped on my Birthday 🥰 thank you and please continue to make content until the concept of time ceases to be!
Been following since the beginning, amazing that you still make the best videos
So much hype for the n-gage video! When you pulled that out it was such a memory blast! Keep it up Derek!
Loving these obscure showcases. I'd love to see a deep dive into other iPod clickwheel games like Vortex The Sims DJ, and (my personal favourite) Phase.
Derek uploading on my birthday is an awesome present!
Fun fact: the reason the NGPC's stick is clicky and nice to use is because it uses microswitches, like an arcade joystick. Seeing as how SNK was a substantial arcade cabinet manufacturer, it makes sense. Also, the Pac-Man port for it came with a ring to put around the stick so it only moved in 4 directions. Only portable game i can think of that came with its own handicap.
My father worked at Nokia on the N-Gage QD project, and so a few years after it had launched and kinda died off I got one to play with. SonicN was my first Sonic game, and just seeing the gameplay footage brought so many memories
8:07 "It was the first original to appear outside of a Sega console."
Well... the first "classic" Sonic game, sure. But the educational game "Sonic's Schoolhouse" was released on Windows PC in 1996 ; so it predated the NGPC game by 3 years.
The educational games would make a great subject for the next Sonic video, BTW.
Cool piece of trivia about Sonic Pocket Adventure is that Eggman starts with the Genesis design in that game and by the end his design changes to the Adventure one
The touch controls on the iPod Sonic version were actually pretty good in my opinion. It was the first version of Sonic I ever played and I wish I could relive that experience today. Damn Apple removing this version from the store. I already bought it!
Same! It was easy to cheese the special stages if you messed up by exiting the game and re-entering it, allowing you to start from the start of the special stage again and try not to hit an exit ball. I was playing this and some upload-your-music guitar hero styled game on my iPod all the time
I thought I knew of all the Sonic games but I'll admit, I had never heard of the iPod port of Sonic 1... I didn't even know the iPod could play games. Anyway, great video and your enthusiasm regarding the Neo Geo Pocket Colour is endearing. I've long wanted to own both a Neo Geo Pocket Colour and an N-Gage, and the Sonic titles on both are certainly desired games for them.
Would you guys be able to cover the Sonic X game for the Leapfrog Leapster in a future video? I think it's right up your alley.
Hey uncle Derek and producer grace, today was my birthday which was pretty rad but I also had work and that was the worst Dunkin shift I’ve had in a while, it made me really happy to come home at 10:30 and see a new video, thankyou for the amazing birthday present love you guys
Hell yeah I'm so ready for this
Sega before Saturn: No! you can't have it, Sonic is mine!
Sega after Saturn: you get a Sonic game! and you get a Sonic game! and you get a Sonic game! you all get sonic games!
"Where do you think that neo came from?" Neo is often used as new in Japanese and has a history of not being translated randomly. But it likely wasn't from the Neo geo pocket, sorry Uncle Derrick!
Oh he brought up the JNCO Jeans!! You know those pants were COMFY AS ALL HELL!!
Gah! Given I'm still trying to preserve and cleanly record the Bomberman iPod game, was hoping to hear that there were some advancements on that front. Great video nevertheless.
Hell yeah, video finally dropped.
So gnarly! Appreciate the uploads
No joke, the iPod version is actually really good. The second control scheme is pretty legit, you could just touch in directions as a d-pad - no different feeling than virtual controls on modern phones - and you’d just click in to jump. Made it super easy to run and jump.
Always refreshing to find a new vid of yours in my sub list :). Love me some dumb games or ports
Sonic Pocket Adventure might be my favorite handheld-exclusive Sonic game I only have a little shame
Punching Weight is one of my favorite shows on UA-cam!
Gotta be real, I hope the segment on Shadowkey is BEEFY.
6:18 "I'd say this night was a perfect 10 but only on IGN" ♫♪♬
I don't know why, but these last two videos have had me laughing out loud on some parts. I have loved Derek's videos for years but rarely do I really laugh over them, maybe his craziness has finally got me 🤣
Sonic fan here! This video was so cool!! I've always loved Pocket Adventure, it's like a chibi Sonic 2 that meshes bits of every classic game! The interesting thing is that iPod Sonic 1 looks like a *port* instead of an emulation. The only systems with ports of the game are Saturn with Sonic Jam and J2ME phones (and by extension, Sonic Genesis, the GBA port of a J2ME port). The Android/iOS version is a remake in a new engine, and every console version to date is just emulated.
Pirated Sonic Games Next? Really Appreciate this Video!
Great video. You always dig the weirdest stuff.
Great video Derek!
It's good to have you back again Uncle
Pocket Adventure was great because it had both the collectible puzzle pieces, AND a time attack challenge mode. So they really made you master the levels by both finding every corner that a puzzle piece might be hiding; and finding the fastest route through. The time attack was cool because the target times seemed initially impossible until you experimented to find shortcuts and optimisations
HELL YEAH cant wait for the video about the NGAGE!!!!! love your stuff man
Normal SSFF video thumbnails:
Derek, beaming and bright-eyed
This SSFF video thumbnail:
Derek, smiling but dead inside
the shirt is so cool!!! Also I love the videos, learning something new everyday!
OMFG!!! The next vid is on the N-gage?! :OOOOOOOOO SO PUMPED ALREADY!! ! :D
It's always a good day when SSFF uploads! Kudos, Derek and Grace n_n
I have two NGPCs from the original launch. Bought from Amazon. I never knew there was a Sonic pack-in version! I also didn't know how well it was reviewed at the time, but I agree. Except for the non-backlit screen (which there are now FULL-SIZE replacements for) it was Sonic in every way.
Dear GODS am I excited for an N-Gage video
always a great day when there's a new SSFF vid
PSA: when he calls the GBA port "amazing" he means that its terrible. Do no pay any amount of money for GBA Sonic 1
It's videos like these that answer my ever so infrequent wonderings of how Sonic was seemingly the most omnipresent non-Nintendo mascot in gaming before Angry Birds.
The original name for 'Aquatic Ruin Zone' from Sonic 2 was "Neo Green Hill Zone", some of the prototypes that leaked still have it's original name.
So its probably more of a reference to that
Sonic 2 was gonna have time travel like CD, so that's part of why
Complete happenstance too, STI had no idea the Japanese team was thinking of that for CD
I love watching your videos. Even if you're talking about literal dirt you'll still be enthusiastic about it
man, I am with you on that iPod wheel spin-dash. missed opportunity!
I used to have the ipod component cables. I would download movies, TV episodes, and... other things from Limewire and watch them on my old 13' RCA crtv in my bedroom.
I love the N-Gage. One of my close friends had one when I was a teenager, and I loved playing on it. Played the crap out of Sonic N. So much nostalgia.
I am beyond pleased. And Past Mortem on the N-Gage too? Derek, Grace. You're spoiling us
I love the Neogeo pocket, and it never gets mentioned! It has this awesome TCG game called SNK vs Capcom, and there are two versions one where you get SNK card's, and the other you get Capcom themed cards. It's a genuinely fun game I played for hours on end
My uncle brought his iPod on a plane once. He left it in his seat when we went to use the restroom and it got stolen. RIP My uncle's iPod
Great Video!
YESSSSS UNCLE DEREK!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!Thank god!!!!!!!
Missed my favourite uncle needed this today
Punching Weight is some of the best content on youtube. Hands down.
The best dang games channel on the whole wide UA-cams. Get after it! ❤️
I hope you do more on iPod games. Harmonix, riding their post Guitar Hero and early Rock Band highs, even had an iPod exclusive game that used the music in your device library to generate levels, something that was between Guitar Hero and Audiosurf. I wasted a LOT of life in high school and college with that game.
Oh boy, a video on the NGage? Sign me up!
Oh damn, I'm here pretty early. Neat stuff. Sonic Pocket Adventure HELLA underrated
I could listen to you talk Sonic all day!
Been watching you since HVGN. Awesome video as usual!
Would you mind sharing what type of shelves you have in your game room?
Welcome back Uncle Derek!!!!!
"... in you pair of JNCO jeans." Stop, I'm not ready for that hit of PTSD! So baggy. So, fucking baggy.....
I didn't know Sonic 1 was on iPod. I do remember Sonic 1 being on Java phones. Looking forward to the Ngage video.
I had to pause the video at the ‘clicky clacky joy sticks’ and like the video! Lol that was funny!!
Can't wait for that N-Gage video. As a Fin I was really excited for the system and got myself the QD model. Only had one game though, FIFA 2003, because my local game store didn't sell N-Gage games and I could never find the ones I wanted, which there weren't many, in department stores. When the system died I was sad and felt bad that everybody made fun of it, but after learning about its history, I can only say: What were they thinking? 🤣