We have used the ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
I am so glad you pointed that out I have had arguments over that but to run the unit on HHO (1) you will need a gas regulator to act as a carburetor (2) The HHO unit will not keep enough pressure of gas to supply the regulator to keep the generator going.
@@josephdias5859 You are correct you do have to tune the intake to take HHO just as you do with LPG but LPG is more dense and is a liquid in the take so tunning is not that fine as in HHO
@@josephdias5859 I was only meaning to get hho up to pressure to run a regulator regulator much like a gas converter in lpg cars at the least u have consistent PSI going in ither way u still need tune it
Years ago, using a kit you can purchase online, I converted my gasoline 7000W generator to natural gas from a line that fed from the street to my house. It ran quieter and endlessly. The kit wasn’t all that expensive either. The engine acted like it didn’t care if it wasn’t gasoline. So as long as the PSI is about the same coming from the HHO generator as the gas line to my house I see no issue.
Yes, you know that, my friend. I turned to use hydrogen split from water and it works well. This bloke must be getting paid from one of the oil companies company ie elites lolol
@@atm2085 I don’t recall. When I sold my house I sold the generator with it back in 2014 so I don’t have the kit manuals and info anymore but whatever the natural gas kit-included regulator flow is rated at would be the same for the HHO. The regulator also had an adjustment screw on it although I never had to use it. The generator never bogged down when demand was put on it. Just kept a steady pace.
My take on that is, that it runs on ethanol alcohol, which you can't distinguish from the water if shown in clear container. It is absolutely possible to run the engine on ethanol with minor modifications to the carburetor (I believe that just requires the changes in orifice)
Regulate a high efficiency electrolysis cell by current limiting so as to produce sufficient gas to feed the engine, depending on load. How the cell is constructed and the type of electrolyte determine the gas volume.
@@kingdommusic5456 Yep, efficient use of electronics can achieve voluminous HHO output. I had the privilege to meet up with the famous Prof. Yull Brown and tour his workshop in 1973. What I witnessed that day has stayed with me although it was quashed by big oil. That is another story.
if you really wanted to use hydrogen here is how. You need a electronic gas injector like propane, then you need a standalone Ecu like for a car that is tunable. You need to tune the ecu on the engine for various loads to allow the injector to increase or decrease Pwm on load and maintain correct Air to fuel, Using a afr gauge... simple really But I don't actually see people trying the right way. instead of using it right to the carb the wrong way.. may need a bigger h2 generator to allow for correct flow under max load though. Need a spark arrestor because it will get pressurized doing it this way.. Also should be using 2 electrodes to get pure h2 not a mix of air etc.. but what do I know I'm just a average guy that never went to college..
Thank you, that was a good one! Again, the real problem is when viewers are itching to comment, and they don't watch all the way through. Here you are, with your own way of debunking thse nonsense conversions, and the comments prove that people are believing it can work... But you are telling them it doesn't work! Like you say, it is great to experiment, maybe there will be a breakthrough.
So far, the most convincing examples of running a small basic one cylinder engine on HHO have been of the removal of the carb while burning brown's gas....
Why would you want the carburetor in the first place... remove it and set up a system to mix the air and hho... the only issue is then creating enough hho (mixed with the air) to run the engine at the proper speed... (the system for mixing must have safety devices installed for backfiring)
First since Hydregon just keeps pumping, unlike gas you need pop-off valves on top of both containers. Second is that your generator seems to require more fuel than one unit can produce, make another one and add it, then another if needed until you have enough fuel for the engine to run unstarved. This should make a difference.
I imagine you can take carburator off and attach 2 ball valves with a Y connector, one opening for air intake and other for hydrogen gas intake. Much like a wood gasifier system. And if you are an electronic wiz you could measure the engine speed and have electronic valves that open and close according to what the engine needs. Or does a system using electrolysis need air intake?? Unless the oxygen produced is not enough to help ignite the hydrogen?
You do not need to modify the carburettor. Hell if you have no intentions of going back to petrol you can remove the carburettor. Or just go through the intake. The butterfly valve will control how much is going in. You will need to adjust the air mixture screw to allow it to idle correctly. Most people I've known who put HHO generators on their motorcycles added the input onto the intake system. There's usually a rubber hose that holds either side of the carburettor or a rubber hose and then a metal mount that the carburettor bolts to. A good way to compensate for rpm changes is to add a pulse width modulation circuit that works with the throttle to increase production on demand. If you have a single cylinder motorcycle you could run it off the wasted spark system. That would give you pulse width modulation circuit without having to buy one and it would increase production as the rpm rises
my concern is how they did not use any check valves , if you think about it the spark would ignite the hydrogen and oxygen mix and the explosion would rip back through the system, and blowing up the bubbler .. also they claim that they are running a 20 plate set up using 12 v starting battery, they did not even use any heat sinks or even thick guage wire . I know personally that those wires would heat up every fast and even melt.
Use a dc speed controller to control the output. Simple. At 3:45 is bull. As you explained. Also the mount of electrolysis material added can do the same.
The biggest problem is your setup has no thought into it at all. You have a garbage hho generator. Some stainless steel plates spaced properly would give you enough, even with just using salt for your electrolyte. And you can change the airflow without modification to the carb by just blocking part of the the air flow with even paper and a rubber band. I ran my whole house for almost a week straight when we lost power for 6 days last winter took me 10 minutes to adjust the air flow on a setup i built for under $30. The still i built to make distilled water powered by the generator cost more but thats a different topic.
to build an injector replica simply use t shape connector 1/2pipe internal rod 3/8 and ppr for t conector and isolation.Usefull for dielectric heating ionic heating induction heating .see WFC 423
Yep it works. But. Off a 12 volt battery. Supply of gass. Stays same. Hook up to alternator more revs more gass. Solved .... In line water trap. Stay safe no back fire but no tank of hydro any way supply on rev demand. Thats how folks. More revs more volts in hydro cell more gass. Easy yeah
I will consider he does have a valid point some Little Engines like that can run an alarming amount of time on just the gasoline left in the bowl the carburetor but knowing firsthand just how explosive hydrogen and oxygen are when mixed I believe that a person would be foolish to not think that an engine could run off that stuff very easily
MAKE A VERIBLE RESISTOR OUT OF SALT WATER ..! In the HHO container add another copper wire . It's salt water make your throttle out of a Mexican mexicinism that exposes difftend amounts of the 3rd copper wire to energize threw the salt water only the other + wire. Like a verible balest resistor ..! Might have to rase the voltage however the voltage on the 2nd wire will only max at 12 volts DC .
Dude... your silly Heres why! 1. You DO NOT use salt... 2. Use the generator for higher voltage convert to DC + 120VDC Speed controller = 3-5 amps. 3. route intake to HHO Cell+ External air in/Limited to 60% 4. This will run just fine. 5. You will be limited from 3000W generator to a max of 1900W before stall. 6. win.
Well i have a 1954 ford,1994 302 in it caberated,i hooked my hydrogen directly in the top/where the air breather sets,seald it so just hydro would go in and it started rite up,idled and reved,un hooked the gas line ran it till it died,and wouldnt start first,i was shoked and stumped,but i was getting water into the top of the carb from the hose so next time ill make a water catch befor the carb,if i ever get the time,ill make a vid of it,cheers
The easiest way is to remove breather then introduce the hose and figure out how far away it needs to be for best fuel air mixture straight to carb doesn't work it "floods"
Just because you can cheat doesn't mean it doesn't work but you don't even need a carburetor if you're going to run the engine off of hydrogen you only need a tube going into the motor and a small tube with a valve on it so you can adjust the airflow that goes in otherwise in that that's all you need you don't need the carburetor at all
You could run this engine on "water". A HHO or browns gas generator, capable of supplying enough on demand fuel, can be constructed with the proper knowledge and specific materials. The carburetor does not need modification, but does need to be empty. There is no way round it, a somewhat technical gas metering system has to be added between the carburetor and air cleaner and operate in conjunction with the slide/butterfly in the carburetor. From a fuel supply point, thats all thats required to run the engine. There are some timing alterations that should ideally be made for perfect tuning, plus egr addition for emissions, but the entire endeavour is pointless! as the lack of a petroleum contacting surfaces on the way in, the lack of surface coating carbon on the way out and an excessive amount of water produced in the cylinder on combustion, create conditions that WILL destroy the engine within a few hours.
I remember reading/watch a video somewhere that says running your gas engine on hydrogen/hho without any modifications will destroy it slowly. Creating a big hole at the top of the piston or melting the internals
Yes, hydrogen is the smallest of elements and will work its way into most metals destroying them in time, one of the big issues for converting grids from natural gas to Hydrogen that's very little talked about.
You have to collect hho an store it then you dont need the carb the flow rate makes the engine run thu the air filter the more pressure going in the faster the engine runs so a ball value would do the job getting hho into a pressure tank is the hard part just need an air pump an filter tanks
Seperate the water with electric field not current, follow Stanly Myres design and inject the water through modified injector that separated the water on demand using high voltage and straight water, no electrolysis via current flow only through very strong electric fields. Using this method the volume of gas produced is many times that of conventional Electrolysis using a fraction the power. It's not a simple backyard build as the injector is acting as a capacitor so you add a coil in parallel to make a resonant LC circuit then Excite the circuit at resonance... Simple eh 👍😉
Great video as always. It's a shame when people make unachievable results thus dampening the spirits of those with a similar goal. I assumed the carburetor and constant fuelling would be the issue. I have seen videos of people running generators using gas bottles and there are dual fuel adapters for sale. I am thinking make hydrogen into reservoir/gas bottle/airbed/fire extinguisher and then use to run generator to guarantee flow. Not sure of the best approach yet. I am confused further by people claiming Stan Meyer's secrets are unlocked by a magical frequency producing colossal amounts of hydrogen on demand. Seeing drinking water as a fuel suggests steam as another option for compression rather than combustion perhaps utilising a heat exchanger to maintain energy efficiency. Keep up the good work!
Stop dreaming, it is simply not working. You can’t produce enough H2 gas to feed an engine. Even you could produce enough H2 gas the engine wouldn’t run because of ignition timing issues, backfiring, exploding gas in the crank case, burning oil films. Hydrogen in a combustion engine is only for dreamers and esoteric guys - whatever crap you hear and see, forget about it
Your kinda thinking along the right track my friend. But first point i will make, dont try storing the gas that comes out of the "hydrogen" generators you see on videos or the very available ones you can buy. The are not true hydrogen generators but HHO, part oxygen is mixed in, making it an extremely dangerous thing to accumulate. But there are generators you can make that produce the gases in separate cells. Its much slower in output (keep in mind im advising on things you can practically do at home without a PHD or lab grade materials) but pure hydrogen is the only part you want to store. You will need a fairly expensive very high pressure LARGE gas bottle as hydrogen is complicated to store, it doesn't have characteristics like propane, that will compress to liquid easily, so as to get a large volume of gas in a small vessel. There are special "magic" lol compounds that can be put in a bottle that causes a complex molecular stacking and locking that allows a comparable amount of hydrogen to propane to be stored in the same size bottle. Thats not really diy level, again unless you have a degree in nuclear science. For an analogy, you got to put a spring in a tin! You cant liquify the spring to make best use of space, ya just gotta stuff it in as hard as you can! On board production of gas is only possible on some small engines with specific technical characteristics and due to the laws of conservation of energy completely pointless (look for my comment for why you cant run a petroleum engine on pure hydrogen) Your idea of using hydrogen as part of the fuel load with bottled gas is the only beneficial approach. There is and has been steam injection technology around for a long time, and i dont know why its not commonplace, my father was mad about it, he steam injected every engine he owned. However petrol engines are the wrong target for hydrogen fuel. Theres a massive secret about something hiding in plan sight, my father worked on a secret project 60 odd years ago, he didn't know exactly what they were doing but he explained to me everything he saw and did. Over time, with the work i did and being known as a mad scientists, i worked out the conspiracy that my father never knew he was part of. For the most part that secret involving a number of allied countries and its primary objective is redundant, but what governments know from it and what i worked out and tested, is kept very cleverly quite. I think an auto manufacture is bound to reveal it as new tech soon with all thats going on. Batteries will go, every vehicle will fill up in minutes at a hydrogen station because all EV's will run full cells, but there will be one more organic product for the new gen engine on tap too. Im going to stop there on that because so far i just sound like a nut and not a concern. Lol Honesty if your looking to make savings, home hydrogen is better used for cooking and heating. As for production don't worry about magic things that you've heard, yes there is a frequency that could theoretically turn water to gas in massive volumes instantly! Its resonant frequency. Every element has a frequency at which it can not hold molecular integrity, but thats hugely complex, the frequency has to be pure and exact to the billionth of a decimal, which is almost impossible due to a frequency can slightly alter passing through air, it has to be the only frequency acting on the element, otherwise its like trying keep rhythm on drums, while some spaz randomly wacks at them. Complete isolation from random frequencies, cant be done. Im not saying all this will or wont be a factor, it will with some and not with others. Once you find the frequency you will only notice a microscopic quiver in particles but this will happen with a huge number of sympathetic frequencies also, making it really hard to pinpoint the one. Then when you have the true resonant frequency you then need to simultaneously hit it with another frequency a specific number of octaves higher.... I dont think this was ever done with water to make hydrogen. What you want to do is setup a solar panel or wind turbine, waterwheel if near a creek? Rain water turbine, anything to make free energy to put voltage in water. Some times it wont make much and sometimes it will. Combine sources take energy where ever you can. You will need a compressor to force gas into the tank. The low volume high pressure can be easily powered by vertical wind turbine. But your air mattress would probably be my choice for starters. Just make sure you do your research on flashback arrestors and have a high and low ventilation point in the outdoor structure your working in. Remember your working with GAS and ELECTRICITY
It's not for dedicated fuel source Einstein. It's to give you more mpg.of fuel. Dry cell will you give you pure hydrogen and pure oxygen seperated . They have a computer added that's made specifically for the difference for timing and fuel consumption.
There is NO WAY that ANY engine can run on pure water ! That "Drinking Water" can contain Ethanol or something similar. And by the way, if you run an engine on HHO you better lock your ignition to AFTER TDC as HHO ignites immediately, not slow burning like gasoline. If you don't then be sure or you burn all the valves or worse, perforate a piston or bend a rod. This from a Professional Engineer Mechanic, not a dreamer on You Tube !
So is it possible to not eliminate the gas but maybe pair it with small amounts of hho for better mph to help waste less gas and use small amounts of hho?
lol it is not fake, it’s universally known hydrogen can be used with internal combustion engines. There are dozens of patents that have been verified and shown to work. Just because you cannot achieve it does not mean it is fake. Are you really saying hydrogen cannot be used as a fuel for internal combustion engines? There are tons of videos on here showing folks powering their car with it.
It is not fake, I have watched many that the carburetor was completely removed. Secondly what you did there is not HHO Generator. Your generator does not produce any HHO. Build a good HHO generator that can produce 1Ltr of HHO gas per minute and see that you will definitely get a bum with your light and it will run the generator set.
Try to copy the guy that he said a generator ran it the way he built it. Made it's on hho and ran. I'M sure you have seen the video. No combustible engine can run on water alone as I know of. If that (his setup with HHO) does work. I will build a 250 gallon tote with electrolysis material and run my home.
Ahhh...the carburetor is gravity feed so how is the water getting into the engine if the line from the water bottle is going up hill to the carburetor ? To do this you have to create a syphon from the bottle to the carb, however, the level of the water in the bottle needs to be above the carb's float bowl for the syphon to continue. It looks like the water level in the bottle seems to be just above the float bowl, however, you can't run a gas or diesel motor on water alone so the point is mute anyway. I tried it more than once and, nope, ain't happenin'.
no need to modify carburator, only need the air valve to regulate the power. just be sure the hho inlet goes from low to high since H is so light it will want to escape upwards. tested this on an old ford v6.... what you DO have to modify is that friggin waste spark since those generators like on this film has ignition on every stroke !! also, set the timing to some 4 to 10 deg AFTER BDP... unless you wanna run verry lean, for the hydrogen its no problen, it ignites on just about any air mix.... gl, hf playing with this stuf :D
1kw of power at best makes 600W of hydrogen... so to waste electric to split water to make hydrogen to run a car would be madness. Use the electric direct...
I guess the problem is that you need a lot of hho but it works if you got enough this is fact. You may need more energy that it consume on gasoline but with solar panels it is free
First of all you had to make the proper HHO it takes two water filters one with metal plates and the power hooked up a certain way in it the other with a little water and more space for the air to go through you can look up videos for it it does work try it yourself I don't know how to do that sending links to people but they're out there I made one it worked
[Edit: I read elsewhere that it's to increase gas fuel efficiency. Ignore my rambling requests for info and clarification below! I'd be interested to know how the expected effect it has though - I can see that it wouldn't improve efficiency as in miles per gallon, so I'm guessing that people mean it burns cleaner, reducing engine maintenance or pollution? Right?] Can you brief me on the goal here? I can only imagine its a project to run an internal combustion engine vehicle the way you would a chargeable electric vehicle (use the grid at home to generate hydrogen, then use said hydrogen as a fuel when 'on the go'). Is that the aim? If so ignore this post and maybe read my reply to it instead? Because the video *looks* like it's trying to figure out a way to run a generator using *water* as a fuel (via electrolysis), and that will never be effective... I expect that you know that. You probably also know that the 'exhaust' from burning HHO is water, and I have a feeling this is a spoof video or a misunderstanding of your intent on my part.... Poe's law is certainly on my mind here, and after having read discussions in the comments, I can't help but state what is obvious to many. Apologies if a joke or goal is whooshing over my head; I expect it is, I'm blonde and used to that! 😂 So, the system you're trying to design is starting with water, adding energy to the water (from the charged battery) to convert it to hydrogen, then to turning it back into water to get the energy back in the form of heat, yes? That means, even if your entire system was 100% efficient (obv. it'll never even be close), your system could only keep the electrolysis going if it was not doing anything else (including making sound, creating heat, and turning an engine/generator!) I have a strong feeling that this video has some other intent / proof of concept, but given the other content being produced/linked, I just wanted to make sure, *just in case* your intent was to generate hydrogen via electrolysis 'on the fly', by the same system that was using hydrogen as a fuel. (An insurmountable thermodynamics problem). The discussions about it seem to demonstrate (as a joke?) a misunderstanding about HHO - burning hydrogen with oxygen does not 'use up' H or O. It just turns HHO back into H2O.
Aside from 'joke' and 'failure to understand critically important elements of the project', the only thing I can think that's being aimed for here is an attempt to convert an internal combustion engine car into a chargeable electric vehicle (charge (make hydrogen) at home using the grid, then use said hydrogen as a fuel when off the grid) Is that the aim? If so, I'd be interested to hear more about the specific energy capacity of hydrogen, both when compressed, and 'loose'. From what little I know about it, I expect that the vehicle able to harness a hydrogen combustion system to the point where its more efficient than electrical motors would be a(n almost) lighter-than-air aircraft. I can't imagine anything else being able to compete with battery + electric motor, but your confidence in brown's gas seems to suggest that you know something I don't, and I'm interested in learning what that is. ♥
I completely did away with the carburetor and made a flat plate with hose attached and put a air hole in the plate with a screw. So I can adjust it rich or lean controlling the speed that way. I make my hho generator to produce 2 to 1 hydrogen to oxygen. So I have a larger adjustment range for the air screw adjustment.
Hook the hydro cell to the alternator. Suply on demand. More revs more volts to the cell more gass works best. Carb valve is open floats down. Start up on. Petroleum switch on volts. Turn off petroleum. In line water gas trap. Makes safe + there is no tank of hydro supply on demand. Simplified amout of gas is the revs you give. = more volts = more gass ues battery. Only to start up or petroleum ... Then power from alternator to hydro cell
Do not use salt otherwise chlorine gas is produced and chlorine gas and pure hydrogen reacts explosively even in sunlight. The best to make water conduct electricity is to use sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide instead you will produce hydrogen and oxygen, but oxygen is also explosive element in pure state . The cathode and anode should be made of 80 percent nickel and 20 percent chromium so high quality materials needed. The rule of thumb you need 50Kw of electricity to make 1Kg of hydrogen and oxygen you have to bleed it into the atmosphere far away from hydrogen.
That’s right. And electrolysis consumes much more electricity than is being generated. But it makes conspiracy theorists happy, so leave ’em to it. If it worked, they wouldn’t need to ask you for money, would they? :)
Despite your nose, and if you are lying, I have benefited from your experience in a job other than what you can imagine, and although I have been on this subject for more than 16 years, but coincidence led me to something very, very, very important.
What if you just cover half of the intake like at the filter cover half of the whole or even 2/3 of it wouldn’t that slow how much air gets in making a clean burn ?
Just bypass carb. Remove spark plug, Screw in stainless steel 1/4 elbow. Drill and tap top of the elbow. Install smaller spark plug connect spark arrester to elbow then check valve. duha!
We have used the ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
I am so glad you pointed that out I have had arguments over that but to run the unit on HHO (1) you will need a gas regulator to act as a carburetor (2) The HHO unit will not keep enough pressure of gas to supply the regulator to keep the generator going.
fridge compressor pump mit get up to enough pressure for what your think of
I think for the most part people don’t tune the engine to run hho it’s like bolt one it’s very marginal until you get an actual tune
@@josephdias5859 You are correct you do have to tune the intake to take HHO just as you do with LPG but LPG is more dense and is a liquid in the take so tunning is not that fine as in HHO
@@josephdias5859 I was only meaning to get hho up to pressure to run a regulator regulator much like a gas converter in lpg cars at the least u have consistent PSI going in ither way u still need tune it
@@johnoconnell3459 What happens when the fire travels up your line and ignites your tank. *BOOM*
Years ago, using a kit you can purchase online, I converted my gasoline 7000W generator to natural gas from a line that fed from the street to my house. It ran quieter and endlessly. The kit wasn’t all that expensive either. The engine acted like it didn’t care if it wasn’t gasoline. So as long as the PSI is about the same coming from the HHO generator as the gas line to my house I see no issue.
Yes, you know that, my friend. I turned to use hydrogen split from water and it works well. This bloke must be getting paid from one of the oil companies company ie elites lolol
@@mikedonald8349 Or your being paid by the scammers, now which is more likely 🤔
@@mikedonald8349you are snake oil salesmen
@@mikedonald8349me too 🔥
@@atm2085 I don’t recall. When I sold my house I sold the generator with it back in 2014 so I don’t have the kit manuals and info anymore but whatever the natural gas kit-included regulator flow is rated at would be the same for the HHO. The regulator also had an adjustment screw on it although I never had to use it. The generator never bogged down when demand was put on it. Just kept a steady pace.
My take on that is, that it runs on ethanol alcohol, which you can't distinguish from the water if shown in clear container. It is absolutely possible to run the engine on ethanol with minor modifications to the carburetor (I believe that just requires the changes in orifice)
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Look and see how thy make hydrogen.. HHO that's the take .. you might learn something..
Ethanol would not produce the bubbles then during electrolysis
Regulate a high efficiency electrolysis cell by current limiting so as to produce sufficient gas to feed the engine, depending on load. How the cell is constructed and the type of electrolyte determine the gas volume.
Yea and can't run a large engine on tiny hho .need enough hydr... To run motor.
and use pulse ac with the correct phase frequency to minimize energy use -- Bingo ...Key =Turning h20 to hho with the most efficiency.
@@stevenpritchard4742 Have a look at this 450HP V8.
@@kingdommusic5456 Yep, efficient use of electronics can achieve voluminous HHO output. I had the privilege to meet up with the famous Prof. Yull Brown and tour his workshop in 1973. What I witnessed that day has stayed with me although it was quashed by big oil. That is another story.
if you really wanted to use hydrogen here is how. You need a electronic gas injector like propane, then you need a standalone Ecu like for a car that is tunable. You need to tune the ecu on the engine for various loads to allow the injector to increase or decrease Pwm on load and maintain correct Air to fuel, Using a afr gauge... simple really But I don't actually see people trying the right way. instead of using it right to the carb the wrong way.. may need a bigger h2 generator to allow for correct flow under max load though. Need a spark arrestor because it will get pressurized doing it this way.. Also should be using 2 electrodes to get pure h2 not a mix of air etc.. but what do I know I'm just a average guy that never went to college..
Thank you, that was a good one! Again, the real problem is when viewers are itching to comment, and they don't watch all the way through. Here you are, with your own way of debunking thse nonsense conversions, and the comments prove that people are believing it can work... But you are telling them it doesn't work! Like you say, it is great to experiment, maybe there will be a breakthrough.
So far, the most convincing examples of running a small basic one cylinder engine on HHO have been of the removal of the carb while burning brown's gas....
Why would you want the carburetor in the first place... remove it and set up a system to mix the air and hho... the only issue is then creating enough hho (mixed with the air) to run the engine at the proper speed... (the system for mixing must have safety devices installed for backfiring)
If you don’t know, don’t blame others for their success.
You need to spend 15 minutes cutting steel plates and use a secret HH+ compound as electrolyte 😆🤪
@@atm2085it's secret to his audience since he doesn't share information
Why would you need a carburetor at all while running hho? You have your fuel and your air all in hho
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Too many UA-cam viewers obviously failed Physics 101.
Last time I checked, drinking water isn't combustible!
Everyone check the drinking water not combustible 😂.. but there is happening 😂
So it just ran on the fuel left in the bowel and nothing to do with water??
You should try this experiment on a gas powered generator. Like a propane powered one and then see how it works.
In that case work perfectly because is ready for vaporizer propellent. 👍
Absolutely!
Not fake, he explains the trick, if you watch to the end dorks!
@Scaggs This video was meant to expose one of many ways that other videos could use to trick people.
@@mrmightytiger7385 Do you have a solution?
Use the same delivery system for propane gas generators
I tried this and it did not work. I by-passed the regulator and went direct to the carb on a duel fuel Westinghouse Generator.
First since Hydregon just keeps pumping, unlike gas you need pop-off valves on top of both containers. Second is that your generator seems to require more fuel than one unit can produce, make another one and add it, then another if needed until you have enough fuel for the engine to run unstarved. This should make a difference.
I imagine you can take carburator off and attach 2 ball valves with a Y connector, one opening for air intake and other for hydrogen gas intake. Much like a wood gasifier system. And if you are an electronic wiz you could measure the engine speed and have electronic valves that open and close according to what the engine needs. Or does a system using electrolysis need air intake?? Unless the oxygen produced is not enough to help ignite the hydrogen?
Ok..let's try it
What do I need to buy?
@@seawolfrising1409 im in Pike County Ga if you want to try this
@@seawolfrising1409 did you try this out yet? What are the results?
You do not need to modify the carburettor. Hell if you have no intentions of going back to petrol you can remove the carburettor. Or just go through the intake. The butterfly valve will control how much is going in. You will need to adjust the air mixture screw to allow it to idle correctly. Most people I've known who put HHO generators on their motorcycles added the input onto the intake system. There's usually a rubber hose that holds either side of the carburettor or a rubber hose and then a metal mount that the carburettor bolts to.
A good way to compensate for rpm changes is to add a pulse width modulation circuit that works with the throttle to increase production on demand.
If you have a single cylinder motorcycle you could run it off the wasted spark system. That would give you pulse width modulation circuit without having to buy one and it would increase production as the rpm rises
my concern is how they did not use any check valves , if you think about it the spark would ignite the hydrogen and oxygen mix and the explosion would rip back through the system, and blowing up the bubbler .. also they claim that they are running a 20 plate set up using 12 v starting battery, they did not even use any heat sinks or even thick guage wire . I know personally that those wires would heat up every fast and even melt.
Lack of oxygen in lines
HAHAHA! i know for a fact they melt! I have tried this myself and OH the smoke n fire-wires =D I now use 8Guage wire
It is fake you can't run any engine only with water. Where is the hho? I don't see where is the production of hho
its a clear fuel that resembles water, he's lying
get one that runs on propane and then replace the propane with the hydrogen.
does this work? even though propane is under pressure and hho on demand isnt?
@@devinmiller3020 as the Piston goes down it draws new hydrogen into the combustion chamber it doesn't need to be under pressure.
Very high motor RPM, very low hho. ?!
Not possible.
Good
Looks take to me. Where's the HHO conversation taking place.
Use a dc speed controller to control the output. Simple. At 3:45 is bull. As you explained. Also the mount of electrolysis material added can do the same.
The biggest problem is your setup has no thought into it at all. You have a garbage hho generator. Some stainless steel plates spaced properly would give you enough, even with just using salt for your electrolyte. And you can change the airflow without modification to the carb by just blocking part of the the air flow with even paper and a rubber band. I ran my whole house for almost a week straight when we lost power for 6 days last winter took me 10 minutes to adjust the air flow on a setup i built for under $30. The still i built to make distilled water powered by the generator cost more but thats a different topic.
Do you have videos or a channel showing what you did I would be pleased to see them... thanks
Ran a whole house for a week.
Surely you have built a better one that can last for years without being hooked to the power company.
Cool story, bro.
to build an injector replica simply use t shape connector 1/2pipe internal rod 3/8 and ppr for t conector and isolation.Usefull for dielectric heating ionic heating induction heating .see WFC 423
This video would have been better had you provided a solution. But all you done was show the problem
A good start and he should be thanked.
How about taking the hydrogen in via the air-inlet(filter), and have a valve on the hydrogen to control the supply?
Show us
I was thinking the same thing. Just like spraying starting fluid in the air intake
Yep it works. But. Off a 12 volt battery. Supply of gass. Stays same. Hook up to alternator more revs more gass. Solved .... In line water trap. Stay safe no back fire but no tank of hydro any way supply on rev demand. Thats how folks. More revs more volts in hydro cell more gass. Easy yeah
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then how does a engine with out a carburetor work if you speay gas or ether ? 🙃
Man go back to school and come back when you are informed enough to talk about this.
so sick of scams and fakes.
God forbid we find truth on UA-cam
I will consider he does have a valid point some Little Engines like that can run an alarming amount of time on just the gasoline left in the bowl the carburetor but knowing firsthand just how explosive hydrogen and oxygen are when mixed I believe that a person would be foolish to not think that an engine could run off that stuff very easily
MAKE A VERIBLE RESISTOR OUT OF SALT WATER ..!
In the HHO container add another copper wire .
It's salt water make your throttle out of a Mexican mexicinism that exposes difftend amounts of the 3rd copper wire to energize threw the salt water only the other + wire.
Like a verible balest resistor ..!
Might have to rase the voltage however the voltage on the 2nd wire will only max at 12 volts DC .
I bet your overwhelmed with orders with this idea
Dude... your silly Heres why!
1. You DO NOT use salt...
2. Use the generator for higher voltage convert to DC + 120VDC Speed controller = 3-5 amps.
3. route intake to HHO Cell+ External air in/Limited to 60%
4. This will run just fine.
5. You will be limited from 3000W generator to a max of 1900W before stall.
6. win.
Well i have a 1954 ford,1994 302 in it caberated,i hooked my hydrogen directly in the top/where the air breather sets,seald it so just hydro would go in and it started rite up,idled and reved,un hooked the gas line ran it till it died,and wouldnt start first,i was shoked and stumped,but i was getting water into the top of the carb from the hose so next time ill make a water catch befor the carb,if i ever get the time,ill make a vid of it,cheers
The easiest way is to remove breather then introduce the hose and figure out how far away it needs to be for best fuel air mixture straight to carb doesn't work it "floods"
NOTE: You did not even try to make HHO for your generator. The other guy said it worked. Prove him wrong.
Just by a DUAL Fuel Carburetor... problem solved. My Generators I own run on Propane or Gasoline.
Where's the steel wool and sock now that it's running?
تحية للجميع ارجو منكم الرد على سؤالي وهو كيف عملت المولدة على الجالون المعلق فيها وماهي هذه المادة
Just because you can cheat doesn't mean it doesn't work but you don't even need a carburetor if you're going to run the engine off of hydrogen you only need a tube going into the motor and a small tube with a valve on it so you can adjust the airflow that goes in otherwise in that that's all you need you don't need the carburetor at all
You could run this engine on "water". A HHO or browns gas generator, capable of supplying enough on demand fuel, can be constructed with the proper knowledge and specific materials. The carburetor does not need modification, but does need to be empty. There is no way round it, a somewhat technical gas metering system has to be added between the carburetor and air cleaner and operate in conjunction with the slide/butterfly in the carburetor. From a fuel supply point, thats all thats required to run the engine. There are some timing alterations that should ideally be made for perfect tuning, plus egr addition for emissions, but the entire endeavour is pointless! as the lack of a petroleum contacting surfaces on the way in, the lack of surface coating carbon on the way out and an excessive amount of water produced in the cylinder on combustion, create conditions that WILL destroy the engine within a few hours.
I remember reading/watch a video somewhere that says running your gas engine on hydrogen/hho without any modifications will destroy it slowly. Creating a big hole at the top of the piston or melting the internals
Yes, hydrogen is the smallest of elements and will work its way into most metals destroying them in time, one of the big issues for converting grids from natural gas to Hydrogen that's very little talked about.
Hho doesn’t need a carburetor. It’s already the perfect mix of fuel and oxygen but you do need a reservoir to let hho build up
Podrías ser tan amable de retirar la gasolina que queda en el depósito del carburador....please?????
You have to collect hho an store it then you dont need the carb the flow rate makes the engine run thu the air filter the more pressure going in the faster the engine runs so a ball value would do the job getting hho into a pressure tank is the hard part just need an air pump an filter tanks
Seperate the water with electric field not current, follow Stanly Myres design and inject the water through modified injector that separated the water on demand using high voltage and straight water, no electrolysis via current flow only through very strong electric fields.
Using this method the volume of gas produced is many times that of conventional Electrolysis using a fraction the power. It's not a simple backyard build as the injector is acting as a capacitor so you add a coil in parallel to make a resonant LC circuit then Excite the circuit at resonance...
Simple eh 👍😉
Keep up the good work
Great video as always. It's a shame when people make unachievable results thus dampening the spirits of those with a similar goal.
I assumed the carburetor and constant fuelling would be the issue. I have seen videos of people running generators using gas bottles and there are dual fuel adapters for sale.
I am thinking make hydrogen into reservoir/gas bottle/airbed/fire extinguisher and then use to run generator to guarantee flow. Not sure of the best approach yet. I am confused further by people claiming Stan Meyer's secrets are unlocked by a magical frequency producing colossal amounts of hydrogen on demand.
Seeing drinking water as a fuel suggests steam as another option for compression rather than combustion perhaps utilising a heat exchanger to maintain energy efficiency. Keep up the good work!
Stop dreaming, it is simply not working. You can’t produce enough H2 gas to feed an engine. Even you could produce enough H2 gas the engine wouldn’t run because of ignition timing issues, backfiring, exploding gas in the crank case, burning oil films. Hydrogen in a combustion engine is only for dreamers and esoteric guys - whatever crap you hear and see, forget about it
Thank you for your comments and support!
Your kinda thinking along the right track my friend. But first point i will make, dont try storing the gas that comes out of the "hydrogen" generators you see on videos or the very available ones you can buy. The are not true hydrogen generators but HHO, part oxygen is mixed in, making it an extremely dangerous thing to accumulate. But there are generators you can make that produce the gases in separate cells. Its much slower in output (keep in mind im advising on things you can practically do at home without a PHD or lab grade materials) but pure hydrogen is the only part you want to store. You will need a fairly expensive very high pressure LARGE gas bottle as hydrogen is complicated to store, it doesn't have characteristics like propane, that will compress to liquid easily, so as to get a large volume of gas in a small vessel. There are special "magic" lol compounds that can be put in a bottle that causes a complex molecular stacking and locking that allows a comparable amount of hydrogen to propane to be stored in the same size bottle. Thats not really diy level, again unless you have a degree in nuclear science. For an analogy, you got to put a spring in a tin! You cant liquify the spring to make best use of space, ya just gotta stuff it in as hard as you can! On board production of gas is only possible on some small engines with specific technical characteristics and due to the laws of conservation of energy completely pointless (look for my comment for why you cant run a petroleum engine on pure hydrogen) Your idea of using hydrogen as part of the fuel load with bottled gas is the only beneficial approach. There is and has been steam injection technology around for a long time, and i dont know why its not commonplace, my father was mad about it, he steam injected every engine he owned. However petrol engines are the wrong target for hydrogen fuel. Theres a massive secret about something hiding in plan sight, my father worked on a secret project 60 odd years ago, he didn't know exactly what they were doing but he explained to me everything he saw and did. Over time, with the work i did and being known as a mad scientists, i worked out the conspiracy that my father never knew he was part of. For the most part that secret involving a number of allied countries and its primary objective is redundant, but what governments know from it and what i worked out and tested, is kept very cleverly quite. I think an auto manufacture is bound to reveal it as new tech soon with all thats going on. Batteries will go, every vehicle will fill up in minutes at a hydrogen station because all EV's will run full cells, but there will be one more organic product for the new gen engine on tap too. Im going to stop there on that because so far i just sound like a nut and not a concern. Lol Honesty if your looking to make savings, home hydrogen is better used for cooking and heating. As for production don't worry about magic things that you've heard, yes there is a frequency that could theoretically turn water to gas in massive volumes instantly! Its resonant frequency. Every element has a frequency at which it can not hold molecular integrity, but thats hugely complex, the frequency has to be pure and exact to the billionth of a decimal, which is almost impossible due to a frequency can slightly alter passing through air, it has to be the only frequency acting on the element, otherwise its like trying keep rhythm on drums, while some spaz randomly wacks at them. Complete isolation from random frequencies, cant be done. Im not saying all this will or wont be a factor, it will with some and not with others. Once you find the frequency you will only notice a microscopic quiver in particles but this will happen with a huge number of sympathetic frequencies also, making it really hard to pinpoint the one. Then when you have the true resonant frequency you then need to simultaneously hit it with another frequency a specific number of octaves higher.... I dont think this was ever done with water to make hydrogen. What you want to do is setup a solar panel or wind turbine, waterwheel if near a creek? Rain water turbine, anything to make free energy to put voltage in water. Some times it wont make much and sometimes it will. Combine sources take energy where ever you can. You will need a compressor to force gas into the tank. The low volume high pressure can be easily powered by vertical wind turbine. But your air mattress would probably be my choice for starters. Just make sure you do your research on flashback arrestors and have a high and low ventilation point in the outdoor structure your working in.
Remember your working with GAS and ELECTRICITY
A little baby sized generator. 1500 watts . Congratulations you can run a hair dryer. Or keep 1 fridge cold barely.
It's not for dedicated fuel source Einstein. It's to give you more mpg.of fuel. Dry cell will you give you pure hydrogen and pure oxygen seperated . They have a computer added that's made specifically for the difference for timing and fuel consumption.
There is NO WAY that ANY engine can run on pure water ! That "Drinking Water" can contain Ethanol or something similar.
And by the way, if you run an engine on HHO you better lock your ignition to AFTER TDC as HHO ignites immediately, not slow burning like gasoline. If you don't then be sure or you burn all the valves or worse, perforate a piston or bend a rod. This from a Professional Engineer Mechanic, not a dreamer on You Tube !
This demonstration is just to reveal the truth above other fake videos!
So is it possible to not eliminate the gas but maybe pair it with small amounts of hho for better mph to help waste less gas and use small amounts of hho?
lol it is not fake, it’s universally known hydrogen can be used with internal combustion engines. There are dozens of patents that have been verified and shown to work. Just because you cannot achieve it does not mean it is fake. Are you really saying hydrogen cannot be used as a fuel for internal combustion engines? There are tons of videos on here showing folks powering their car with it.
It is not fake, I have watched many that the carburetor was completely removed. Secondly what you did there is not HHO Generator. Your generator does not produce any HHO.
Build a good HHO generator that can produce 1Ltr of HHO gas per minute and see that you will definitely get a bum with your light and it will run the generator set.
Try to copy the guy that he said a generator ran it the way he built it. Made it's on hho and ran. I'M sure you have seen the video. No combustible engine can run on water alone as I know of. If that (his setup with HHO) does work. I will build a 250 gallon tote with electrolysis material and run my home.
Ahhh...the carburetor is gravity feed so how is the water getting into the engine if the line from the water bottle is going up hill to the carburetor ? To do this you have to create a syphon from the bottle to the carb, however, the level of the water in the bottle needs to be above the carb's float bowl for the syphon to continue. It looks like the water level in the bottle seems to be just above the float bowl, however, you can't run a gas or diesel motor on water alone so the point is mute anyway. I tried it more than once and, nope, ain't happenin'.
no need to modify carburator, only need the air valve to regulate the power.
just be sure the hho inlet goes from low to high since H is so light it will want to escape upwards.
tested this on an old ford v6....
what you DO have to modify is that friggin waste spark since those generators like on this film has ignition on every stroke !!
also, set the timing to some 4 to 10 deg AFTER BDP... unless you wanna run verry lean, for the hydrogen its no problen, it ignites on just about any air mix....
gl, hf playing with this stuf :D
1kw of power at best makes 600W of hydrogen... so to waste electric to split water to make hydrogen to run a car would be madness. Use the electric direct...
I guess the problem is that you need a lot of hho but it works if you got enough this is fact. You may need more energy that it consume on gasoline but with solar panels it is free
First of all you had to make the proper HHO it takes two water filters one with metal plates and the power hooked up a certain way in it the other with a little water and more space for the air to go through you can look up videos for it it does work try it yourself I don't know how to do that sending links to people but they're out there I made one it worked
[Edit: I read elsewhere that it's to increase gas fuel efficiency. Ignore my rambling requests for info and clarification below! I'd be interested to know how the expected effect it has though - I can see that it wouldn't improve efficiency as in miles per gallon, so I'm guessing that people mean it burns cleaner, reducing engine maintenance or pollution? Right?]
Can you brief me on the goal here? I can only imagine its a project to run an internal combustion engine vehicle the way you would a chargeable electric vehicle (use the grid at home to generate hydrogen, then use said hydrogen as a fuel when 'on the go'). Is that the aim? If so ignore this post and maybe read my reply to it instead?
Because the video *looks* like it's trying to figure out a way to run a generator using *water* as a fuel (via electrolysis), and that will never be effective...
I expect that you know that. You probably also know that the 'exhaust' from burning HHO is water, and I have a feeling this is a spoof video or a misunderstanding of your intent on my part.... Poe's law is certainly on my mind here, and after having read discussions in the comments, I can't help but state what is obvious to many. Apologies if a joke or goal is whooshing over my head; I expect it is, I'm blonde and used to that! 😂
So, the system you're trying to design is starting with water, adding energy to the water (from the charged battery) to convert it to hydrogen, then to turning it back into water to get the energy back in the form of heat, yes?
That means, even if your entire system was 100% efficient (obv. it'll never even be close), your system could only keep the electrolysis going if it was not doing anything else (including making sound, creating heat, and turning an engine/generator!)
I have a strong feeling that this video has some other intent / proof of concept, but given the other content being produced/linked, I just wanted to make sure, *just in case* your intent was to generate hydrogen via electrolysis 'on the fly', by the same system that was using hydrogen as a fuel. (An insurmountable thermodynamics problem). The discussions about it seem to demonstrate (as a joke?) a misunderstanding about HHO - burning hydrogen with oxygen does not 'use up' H or O. It just turns HHO back into H2O.
Aside from 'joke' and 'failure to understand critically important elements of the project', the only thing I can think that's being aimed for here is an attempt to convert an internal combustion engine car into a chargeable electric vehicle (charge (make hydrogen) at home using the grid, then use said hydrogen as a fuel when off the grid) Is that the aim?
If so, I'd be interested to hear more about the specific energy capacity of hydrogen, both when compressed, and 'loose'.
From what little I know about it, I expect that the vehicle able to harness a hydrogen combustion system to the point where its more efficient than electrical motors would be a(n almost) lighter-than-air aircraft. I can't imagine anything else being able to compete with battery + electric motor, but your confidence in brown's gas seems to suggest that you know something I don't, and I'm interested in learning what that is. ♥
You forgot to keep your hho generator under vacuum.
I think you shouldn't you water becauce the genarator will rust very fast.
100 % Water Pure or Etanol Gas ?
the water doesn't even drop a mil.
I completely did away with the carburetor and made a flat plate with hose attached and put a air hole in the plate with a screw. So I can adjust it rich or lean controlling the speed that way.
I make my hho generator to produce 2 to 1 hydrogen to oxygen. So I have a larger adjustment range for the air screw adjustment.
Adding salt produces chlorine gas and sodium hydroxide.
Hook the hydro cell to the alternator. Suply on demand. More revs more volts to the cell more gass works best. Carb valve is open floats down. Start up on. Petroleum switch on volts. Turn off petroleum. In line water gas trap. Makes safe + there is no tank of hydro supply on demand. Simplified amout of gas is the revs you give. = more volts = more gass ues battery. Only to start up or petroleum ... Then power from alternator to hydro cell
But, but... that pesky first law of thermodynamics. Ah well... some people gotta learn the hard way I suppose.
Do not use salt otherwise chlorine gas is produced and chlorine gas and pure hydrogen reacts explosively even in sunlight. The best to make water conduct electricity is to use sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide instead you will produce hydrogen and oxygen, but oxygen is also explosive element in pure state . The cathode and anode should be made of 80 percent nickel and 20 percent chromium so high quality materials needed. The rule of thumb you need 50Kw of electricity to make 1Kg of hydrogen and oxygen you have to bleed it into the atmosphere far away from hydrogen.
A 110vac 50amp generator uses 110vac 8 amps to produce hydrogen oxygen.
That's a 42 amps 110vac gain to run my home.
Water is not a fuel ? Unless you take out the hydrogen from it ?
That’s right. And electrolysis consumes much more electricity than is being generated. But it makes conspiracy theorists happy, so leave ’em to it. If it worked, they wouldn’t need to ask you for money, would they? :)
i've been cheaten again
Despite your nose, and if you are lying, I have benefited from your experience in a job other than what you can imagine, and although I have been on this subject for more than 16 years, but coincidence led me to something very, very, very important.
Interesting… thanks for this. Was wondering what’s going on chemically here.
2 H2O → 2 H2 + O2 (electrolysis)
2 H2 + O2 → 2 H2O (combustion)
There’s nothing revolutionary about this.
Better to go with the Bob Lazar hydrogen tanks method he has in his Corvette ‼️👽
Bob Lazar :)
La vidéo est incompréhensible
Un explainable... How it work the drinking water direct into carburetor... Even you modified it.. how carburetor produced hho to run the engine?
You make a sense 😊
It will work but the shelf life not going to be as long
What if you make a bigger version of you hydrogen generator and you just hook the air intake up to it and let air through the hydrogen vapors?
Water mixing electrolyte
Thanks for making this product nature friendly
What if you just cover half of the intake like at the filter cover half of the whole or even 2/3 of it wouldn’t that slow how much air gets in making a clean burn ?
Look it’s just idea but have u looked in fridge compressor pump to get it up to higher output pressure if that helps in eny way
Wow, -so you are telling us you tried alot and finally just replaced the gasoline with drinking water and it works ? Where do you catalyze the HHO ??
would direct injection work since there is O for the HH enough for combustion..?
Stanley Meyer knew the secret and the killed him for it
External gasoline tank
Just bypass carb. Remove spark plug, Screw in stainless steel 1/4 elbow. Drill and tap top of the elbow. Install smaller spark plug connect spark arrester to elbow then check valve. duha!
Put some chlorine in it and it'll get smokey 🤣
Thank you Mr. MT. I wondered why I could get no more that a back fire on my9000 watt propane/ gasoline generator. Any suggestions
*You need a storage tank, compression and heat.*
It's simple run it on a gas generator.
water without any thing like clear water without add any thin sir
pertanyaan sy,,, apakah strum diambil dri hasil genset itu sendiri dan arusnya DCatauAC
2 guys from west Seneca NY made a engine that ran on water and then they mysteriously died.... true facts wake up
*You are not Derek.*
@@changeminds2736 its 2 r's bro... step ur game up lol