Making a Point Tool with Sam Angelo
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2016
- Sam makes a point tool from a phillips screw driver. Traditionally the point tool is used in chasing threads with hand tools but is an excellent tool for forming beads and other fine details.
Sharpening the Point tool (video)
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Another viewer that just finished making your point tool out of a screwdriver. Crazy simple to make and round beads. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I just got finished making my point tool out of a Phillips head screwdriver it works fantastic thanks for the tip.
Glad it helped
Thanks Sam! This was an incredibly helpful way for me to start using a point tool. And your enthusiasm brightened my evening.
Point received! 👍 Time to rummage through my screwdrivers. Excellent idea. Thanks for sharing Sam.
Sam I made a point tool today, I went to harbor freight and got a pair of super long screw drivers. I turned the cross point into this point tool, and the flathead into a nice reverse radius scraper tool. All for $9. Easy to do, thanks for the information and instructions. Cheers sir!
Thanks for the video. I have some Philip screwdriver I will make a point tool today. Again I find your videos very helpful.
I came up with a simple, inexpensive, and accurate jig for making and sharpening a point tool. For those of us who can't free hand things like you do.
I used 3/8" drill rod to make my point tool. The jig is simply an all-thread rod coupler nut of the appropriate size, 3/8-16 in my case. I drilled out the hole to 3/8" as the threads are smaller than 3/8". Then I drilled and tapped for a #10-24 set screw on one of the flats on the coupler.
To make the point tool I put the drill rod into the coupler with an inch or so sticking thru and tightened the set screw, locking the rod in place. With the set screw pointing straight up, and the jig flat on your grinding platform, I start grinding the first facet of the point tool. Next I rotate the jig, (right or left) two flats and grind the next facet. The same in the opposite direction. The out come is three perfectly aligned facets. I ground mine to 30 degrees but that can be whatever angle works best for you. By the way, you must keep the jig and tool perpendicular to the grinding wheel on the platform.
To sharpen the tool insert it into the jig and set one facet flush to the grinding wheel and tighten the set screw and you're set to go. Accurate and repeatable.
Thanks, Sam
Great idea once again Sam.
Great video SAM the point tool is great item to have and sharpening is I think one of the most important parts of wood turning.
Thanks for all your videos
Thanks very much.
Sam
A great lesson on the making of this tool Sam
Cheers
Mike
I'm not a big fan of Harbor Freight fan but they have a great $2 screwdriver that makes a wonderful point tool. Vanadium Steel.
Thank you for demonstrating your techniques for making this point tool. A sidebar takeaway - a lot of grinder platforms are too large for grinding short tools. I have one of the sharpening systems with CBN wheels used by many woodturners. The platform is far to large to sharpen a “short” round nose scraper for example. The rectangular shape doesn’t allow a smooth sweeping pass from right to left and back again with the scraper held flat on the platform. I really want to make a point tool, so now I have your process to go by. Thanks for the technique.
I'm going to make one tomorrow.
Sam I found if you use a suitable sized nut on the screwdriver blade held in place with two 3mm grub screws the sharpening angles are repeatable without guess work, just use every other flat on the tool rest. Also the nut can be locked up next to the handle so it doesn't get lost when not in use
Thanks Sam. As an FYI, you can get round HSS stock from Enco pretty cheap. They sell quarter inch stock. I got the tip from Bob Rosand. He was making round 1/4 inch skew chisels with it. I've also used screw driver bar stock. It certainly does the job to. Thanks again!
Interesting decisions. Sharpening tool works fine. Like!
Great, thanks Sam, going to make one today :)
Thank you for sharing...
finally! a decent use for a phillips head screwdriver :D Salutations from Canada, where of course we use Robbies !
Scott
Thanks for watching my videos. Yes this screwdriver turned out fairly well for a point tool. I am not familiar with The term Robbies? Is that a square drive or a hex bit?
@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER robertson bit, square. less slippage. anyway, i'm gonna make a point tool after watching this video. thanks!
Excellent... I'll definitely be making one of them...
Cheers...
Great
Thanks for watching. Sam
I think I have a Phillips head screw driver that will work very nicely. Off to the grinding wheel! Cheers, Rich
off to the tool box...
Thanks!!!
I'm a little late to the party Sam but would like to add a suggestion a friend gave me for three symetrical facets. Rather than hex nuts, using a threaded rod coupler gives a lot more flat length to lay on the tool support. Using two in tandem is even better and it's easier to hold them for drilling and tapping the grub/set screws. I use 1/4-20x1/4" screws and 7/16-14x1-3/4" coupler for 5/16" rod/shaft. Start the grind with grub screws facing up and rotate to every other flat. Love your stuff..you're truly a talented guy.
Robert
I do get what you are saying. My short answer to sharpening a point too is...for me I can sharpen one with my v-arm, which I prefer. If I am in a rush I will do it free hand with fine results. Time is a big factor. I get the recommendation often about using a hex-nut. I just don't need to do that or use any other type of jig. Thanks Sam
Sorry, I meant to say I use the couplers to establish the initial bevels since I start with a drill steel rod as opposed to a Philips head screw driver with handle. A 3' length of rod costs about as much as one screw driver and I can make other small cutters with the leftover. Plus I can make a nicer handle. Future sharpening is done my V jig.
I see that I have to make one for myself😊, thank you
This couldn't be more timely, I've been looking for a point tool :). Just a thought that you are going for a 3-pointed grind: look at your handle, it has 3 major facets on it, use those to help you start your shaping and hopefully help get a nice symmetrical tip.. Off to Princess Auto this afternoon to pick up a big screwdriver :)..
Thanks as always..
Thanks for watching Sam
Awesome tool, Sam! I've got a drawer full of screwdrivers that aren't doing any good to me as screwdrivers. Time to reshape one of them!
Go for it. Sam
Thanks Sam. That looks quite a versatile wee tool you have made there. I'm off to re-watch the beardless Sam video on this tool and thread chasing 😜.
Happy New Year Sam, Cherylea and, of course Coco 🙏🏻🎉🙏🏻🎉. (Please apologise to your wife for my poor spelling attempt at her name 💐
Super Master Class. Can i use coarser grinding wheel in the beginning and then move to the white one?
Awesome idea! Thanks for the video. How easy is it to get a catch with a point tool?
You can get a catch if you have the point pointing UP....just like any tool but the catch is not to bas as the tool is small. Sam
Hi Sam, Awesome video by you once again. I don't miss a single one!! :-) Is there a website that I can get that Stuart Batty tool to set the grinding angle?
Thanks for watching. I do appreciate it. I do use the Stuart Batty angle tool a lot. Sam
So, Sam, I'm wondering about the steel quality or type in a screwdriver. Is it close to HSS in hardness? How often might you have to sharpen compared to a HSS steel point tool that one can buy from the many lathe tool makers who sell the equivalent? Regardless, this is so economical, so what if one has to go to the grinder a bit more often...is what I'm thinking. Appreciate this video. Thanks.
I have no way of knowing. But I am sure your suspicions are right. I am sure this tool steel is fairly hard but not meant for cutting. But then it cost 5 bucks. Sam
Made mine. Works just fine. I rough ground it on my rough CBN wheel, then did final shaping on my finer CBN wheel. Thanks again.
Those are dandy little tools Sam. Thanks!
Just wondering if you rinse out that coffee cup or just fill it for the fiber?!?
Take care, Dave
I just try not to get them mixed up. haha. Great meeting yesterday huh?
Very enjoyable! I think we got Terry hooked ! He did a very nice job on his pen!
Take care, Dave
My screwdriver is "chrome vanadium", not HSS. Will this work??
Robert, I am not sure if the screwdriver I used was HSS. If the steel is softer than HSS or whatever, it just means that you will need to sharpen it more often. Chrome vanadium sounds good. But I really don't know anything that steel. Sam
Thanks, Sam - I enjoy your videos. Bob
Yes, made it yesterday with the above screwdriver...used today. Seems to hold the sharpness well. Thanks Sam.
@@rsauve999 many cheaper chisels are made with CrV so i would figure it should work
@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER This my help for the next time.......Based on a measurement system known as the Rockwell Hardness Scale, chrome vanadium is designated C41-55.
Combining molybdenum, tungsten and chromium steel creates several alloys commonly called "HSS", measuring 63-65 Rockwell "C" hardness.