Thanks Mike, I think you have just saved me from spending a lot of money on tools that I would be unhappy with. I'll watch this again when I'm looking for beading tools. Great thoughts. Cheers
Excellent... I converted a 3/8" spindle gouge about a year ago and like you say, it's great. I'm just waiting for my 1/4" to become available... Great video... Cheers...
You win! I saw Pat do a demo and cutting beads around the profile of a hollowform. He does tasty work. I will be converting a few old spindle gouges now. Thanks for this Mike. Best Wishes, Brendan.
Mike Great use of a couple of old tools, I bet you'll get a lot of use out of them again now. Looking forward to seeing your beaded hollow form Take care Rob
Pat inspired you, you've definitely inspired me (again) Will be making at least one of these tools in the near future, thanks for another great video Mike. All the best, Mick.
Mike. great way to salvage an old tool and repurpose it. Sometimes we all need to be reminded to be a bit more frugal and not waste good resources. Take care. Carl.
Just got the link for this from William Hunt's channel. Great idea Mike & I'll certainly be making one of these as I've been making my beads free hand. 😀
Mike, a couple of things about this tool: 1. You kan keep sharpening the home made tool, whereas the purchased is not so easy to sharpen. 2. Another point is that if you use a deep fluted U-shaped bowl gouge, you can get the beads closer to semi-circular in shape.
I do like the 3/8 beads. Only a few months into turning, I don't have 'Extra/old' tools to modify. I will have to be on the lookout for some second hand, to try it out. Thanks Mike.
Very interesting new tool. What happens if you invert the tool with the flute upward. I'm guessing a lot of tear out kind of like the bought tool. I'll be looking for some old spindle gouges for sale. Thanks for posting this one.
I like the center 3 beads as well, the first ones was to shallow in my opinion, and the last 3 was way to deep, also it look like a smoother cut as well, and is less sanding. Great video Mike and diy shop tools are great....have a great week
Now that's clever, and you'll never loose the profile because it's a flute. I also prefer 'honeycombe' beading, with tight beads and relatively shallow. If only I had a grinder! Robert Sorby has an Easybeader tool with a curved V shaped profile which makes nice tight beading. Something to think about for future projects, thanks!
+Brendan Stemp Thanks Brendan. Crown do a dedicated captive ring tool, which I also have, and its bevelled on both sides of a hook profile, so that you can form the ring and undercut from both the left and right. I did a video on it about four years ago. Thanks for watching Cheers Mike
Great use of an otherwise useless tool Mike. I have a few gouges that will now be put back into use as beading tool. Thank you for the great idea. Take care my friend and
Thank you Mike for the video. It seems to me that with a very litle efford you could do a captive rings out of those beads from the bought beadtool. Ceers, Júlíus
Thank you for watching Julius. Not too effective as a captive ring tool as the point doesn't come around enough, but the dedicated captive ring tool with the double bevel is very effective,. Cheers Mike
Great video, Mike! I've been wanting to pick up a beading tool. It would be cheaper to buy a brand new inexpensive spindle gouge and convert it than buying a pre made beading tool. Great info, thanks for sharing!
Hi Mike thanks for the Video, Great idea,. One thing I've seen people do when showing something close up to the camera, they put their hand behind the item so the camera can auto focus..
thanks for watching Steve, good idea re the close up focus, I have used it before, but I had a brain freeze I think...ah well plod on as they say ;) Take care Mike
I haven't used that particular make, but have a similar one. I have found I get best results by cutting on centre, lifting the tool slowly with little pressure, and always honing the face/edge regularly. Hope this helps.
Massive difference between them isn't there Mike. I had made two ring gouges from old large Allen keys. They didn't do a bad job but not made for the same reason you had, hiding a joint. When I get back to the lathe again I will see if the old keys could be adjusted on the grinder....might leave one as is.... cheers my friend 👍🏼😊
Is it possible to get a view/diagram from the side of how the tool is presented to the wood? For some reason I feel like I'm not getting it quite right.
Neat idea Mike, cool video. I tried to check out Pat's channel but I keep getting a unavailable site message, could you please check and see if you've entered the proper address?
great info mate and thanks, I have some old spindle gouges, those cheapish ones that come in a set that i picked up before I even had a lathe , just collecting dust in a draw, Im the same rather than throw them i kept them incase that "one day" actually comes :)
Bearing in mind I know next to ' naff all ' about wood turning, how about getting some stainless steel pipe to the width required for a bead, drill a vertical hole [ now maybe you have 2 pcs ] and then shape to desired angle ..? .. sorry, just thinking aloud.Good vid anyhow.
Hi Brian, that could work, but I have no stainless pipe, but I did have a couple of worn down gouges ;) Thanks for the suggestion though, and bothering to comment :) Take care Mike
Yes ... I'm full of ideas and as the Mrs. says, just a shame that a lot of them are about as much use as a chocolate T-pot ..lolBack to the drawing board eh !
It's possible, but you don't have a chance to fiddle about too much to get it right, as the profile cannot be easily restored. The benefit of the gouge is that the flute allows you to try different grinds, to see what works best for you. Thanks for the suggestion though John, and for commenting. Take care Mike
If you want to buy beading tools check out D-way tools, Dave makes excellent turning tools and has a 5 piece set of beading tools plus a teardrop shaped detail tool. I bought his full set and love them. They make precise beading fast and easy. Dave has a detailed video on UA-cam about them.
Hi James, this video is just to show how you can repurpose old gouges, I have watched Dave's video several times and wish we could get something similar in the UK, they look as if they perform really well. Cheers Mike
I appreciate the comparison and the home make tool from an otherwise worn out tool.
Great job.
Thanks Alan, it is rather effective :)
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike, I think you have just saved me from spending a lot of money on tools that I would be unhappy with. I'll watch this again when I'm looking for beading tools. Great thoughts. Cheers
Glad you found the video useful Terry
Cheers
Mike
Excellent video and a very positive way to recycle old friends.
As you said, see you soon, probably Sunday!
Take care
James
Hi James, and thank you. It was brilliant to finally meet you mate.
Take care
Mike
Excellent...
I converted a 3/8" spindle gouge about a year ago and like you say, it's great. I'm just waiting for my 1/4" to become available...
Great video...
Cheers...
Thanks Adam, great to hear that you think it's a good tool too :)
Cheers
Mike
Mike,
A very good video with a lot of great information. Thanks for taking your time to make and share this video,
Jim
Thanks James, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers
Mike
Great Job Mike. I've been wondering what I was going to do with my old spindle gouge, now I know. Thanks
Glad you found the video useful Randy and thanks for watching.
Made one following your instructions. Works perfectly thanks Mike
Hi Denis, and glad you're happy with your new "toy" ;)
Cheers
Mike
Wow Mike, those beading tools are very cool...! Thanks so much for sharing....!
Glad you enjoyed the video Jack.
Cheers
Mike
You win! I saw Pat do a demo and cutting beads around the profile of a hollowform. He does tasty work. I will be converting a few old spindle gouges now. Thanks for this Mike.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
LOL....thanks Brendan. I am really looking forward to seeing Pat at UKIWS, as he is doing a Masterclass....and you of course ;)
Cheers
Mike
Mike
Great use of a couple of old tools, I bet you'll get a lot of use out of them again now. Looking forward to seeing your beaded hollow form
Take care
Rob
Hi Rob, and thank you.
Take care
Mike
That's a great idea Mike . The finish looks cleaner on yours than the store bought tool . Cheers Mike take care .
Glad you found it of interest Glen, and thanks for watching.
Cheers
Mike
I never knew I loved beads so much until I watched this! Lovely to watch those being made.
Lol...thank you Sir!
Cheers
Mike
A great idea and an excellent result.
Cheers
Andrew
Thank you Andrew, appreciate it.
Take care
Mike
Brilliant Mike and thanks to Pat for a great idea :)
Thanks Ian, Pat is a great inspiration, that's for sure.
Cheers
Mike
Pat inspired you, you've definitely inspired me (again) Will be making at least one of these tools in the near future, thanks for another great video Mike. All the best, Mick.
Hi Mick, and thank you.
Cheers
Mike
What a good idea, I now use the short gouges. Thanks for that.
Glad you found it useful Geoff.
Cheers
Mike
Very interesting mate....Thanks for sharing this great tip.
Take care and love to MU !!
Chris,Nicola and Charlie.
Hi Chris, glad you enjoyed it mate.
Not long to UKIWS now mate, see you soon :)
Cheers
Mike
Very nice! Thank you for making that video. I am going to make me some beading tools now!
Glad you liked the video Steve.
Thanks for watching
take care
Mike
Thanks for doing this Mike. I have heard about using a spindle gouge but wasn't sure how well it would work. Looks great.
Happy to be of service Sir!
Cheers
Mike
Great idea and good video, Mike!
Thanks Rick
Cheers
Mike
Thank you, Mike, for a very interesting video.
Hi Alan, glad you enjoyed it my friend.
Take care
Mike
Very interesting, Mike. Now I
I know what I can do with my old tools. Thanks! Always interesting to tune into your channel.
Thanks Alan, glad you found it of interest.
Cheers
Mike
Mike. great way to salvage an old tool and repurpose it. Sometimes we all need to be reminded to be a bit more frugal and not waste good resources.
Take care. Carl.
Hi Carl, and thank you, I have to say I'm pleased with its results :)
Cheers
Mike
Just got the link for this from William Hunt's channel. Great idea Mike & I'll certainly be making one of these as I've been making my beads free hand. 😀
Hi T ... it is very effective mate.
Thanks for watching.
Cheers
Mike
Hi Mike Great idea, this will save me some money so of to the workshop, Thank you.
Hi Carl, and glad you like the idea.
Cheers
Mike
I just finished watching Brian Haven's video on doing this. I'm almost looking forward to wearing down my gouges now!
Lol.....get to the grinder then ;)
Cheers
Mike
Nice trick there Mike, thanks alot for the tip and the video.
Simon
Glad you liked it Simon.
Cheers
Mike
WOW I am impressed I see a huge advantage to your bead over the bought one but I do have a question. have you played with it with the flute up?
Thanks Al....yes mate....not a good result, by any stretch of the imagination! ;)
Cheers
Mike
Great work! This video will be useful to many!
Thank you
Cheers
Mike
Great tip and video Mike.
Thank you Ron
Take care
Mike
Mike, a couple of things about this tool: 1. You kan keep sharpening the home made tool, whereas the purchased is not so easy to sharpen. 2. Another point is that if you use a deep fluted U-shaped bowl gouge, you can get the beads closer to semi-circular in shape.
Hi Jasper, two very valid points, thank you for your thoughts my friend.
Take care
Mike
Mike,
Very interesting video, going to try it out. Thank you, as always for posting.
...and thank you for watching Don.
Cheers
Mike
nice job mike looks like I'll be making more tools your idea is much better than the crown ones
Glad you found it of interest Phill
Cheers
Mike
Mike that looks lovely will have to try it thanks
Cheers Brett, it is quite effective.
Take care
Mike
Cheers Brett, it is quite effective.
Take care
Mike
I do like the 3/8 beads. Only a few months into turning, I don't have 'Extra/old' tools to modify. I will have to be on the lookout for some second hand, to try it out. Thanks Mike.
Hi Peter, any old gouge will do, eBay is sometimes a good place to grab a bargain :)
Cheers
Mike
Great video Mike, very clear and well explained mate. Cheers, Jim
Thank you Jim, I appreciate your kind words mate.
Take care
Mike
Nice one matey, i will give it a go to make one tomorrow after seeing your video.
Thanks Paul, let me know how you get on.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks, Mike - a really helpful video of how to do this. Cheers!
Pleasure Stewart, thanks for watching mate.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike 👍👍👍
My pleasure
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike for the video, another idea for the future.
thanks for watching Kevin
Cheers
Mike
Very impressive Mike! The home made jobby makes a better job and looks a lot neater.
Great video mate, cheers, Bram
Hi Bram, I was very pleased with the end result, still lots of practice needed to perfect it though.
Thanks for watching mate.
Cheers
Mike
Good one Mike . It really helps to see it done on a video compare to photographs .
Thanks Trevor.
Cheers
Mike
thank you mike very helpful like all your videos cheers
Glad you enjoyed it Wayne
Cheers
Mike
Very interesting new tool. What happens if you invert the tool with the flute upward. I'm guessing a lot of tear out kind of like the bought tool. I'll be looking for some old spindle gouges for sale. Thanks for posting this one.
Glad you found some interest in it Gil, I have tried it the other way....just to see...not good at all ;)
Cheers
Mike
brilliant mike. will be making one when my spindle gouge is nearly on it last legs.
thanks
Rob
Glad you like the idea Rob.
Cheers
Mike
What a eye opening Demo Thanks
Hi Dave, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers
Mike
I like the center 3 beads as well, the first ones was to shallow in my opinion, and the last 3 was way to deep, also it look like a smoother cut as well, and is less sanding. Great video Mike and diy shop tools are great....have a great week
Glad you enjoyed it Robert, and thanks for watching.
Cheers
Mike
Now that's clever, and you'll never loose the profile because it's a flute. I also prefer 'honeycombe' beading, with tight beads and relatively shallow. If only I had a grinder! Robert Sorby has an Easybeader tool with a curved V shaped profile which makes nice tight beading. Something to think about for future projects, thanks!
Thanks for watching and glad you liked the video.
Good stuff Mike. Isn't the Crown tool designed more for doing captive rings rather than beads?
Sorry if I missed something, I tend to fast forward over some stuff. Do not take this as an insult to the quality of your videos.
+Brendan Stemp
Thanks Brendan.
Crown do a dedicated captive ring tool, which I also have, and its bevelled on both sides of a hook profile, so that you can form the ring and undercut from both the left and right. I did a video on it about four years ago.
Thanks for watching
Cheers
Mike
+Brendan Stemp
No offence taken mate, I assure you 😊
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike I've got a few old tools I'm def gunna repurpose a couple.
Pleasure Dave, always good to be able to reuse old tools :)
Cheers
Mike
Great use of an otherwise useless tool Mike. I have a few gouges that will now be put back into use as beading tool. Thank you for the great idea.
Take care my friend and
And do a kindness
Mark
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Glad you found it of interest Mark, it's a great way to keep old gouges a bit longer :)
Cheers
Mike
:) :)
Mike that is pretty cool mate!
Thanks Brian, nice to have you stop by mate :)
Cheers
Mike
Great video and info. Thank you.
Thanks Joseph, much appreciated.
Cheers
Mike
Thank you Mike for the video. It seems to me that with a very litle efford you could do a captive rings out of those beads from the bought beadtool. Ceers, Júlíus
Thank you for watching Julius. Not too effective as a captive ring tool as the point doesn't come around enough, but the dedicated captive ring tool with the double bevel is very effective,.
Cheers
Mike
Very interesting and much better finishes
Thanks for watching Mac
Cheers
Mike
Great tip, any reason why this schould not work with a 1/2inch bowl gouge? For I got one in spare bit looking for a beading tool!
Thank you, no reason at all.
Great video, Mike! I've been wanting to pick up a beading tool. It would be cheaper to buy a brand new inexpensive spindle gouge and convert it than buying a pre made beading tool. Great info, thanks for sharing!
Glad you found it of some interst Braxton.
Cheers
Mike
Thank You Mike. Very useful
My pleasure Ken, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers
Mike
Great info Mike, I'll try that out as opposed to my beading tool, I do like your tight beads.
Thanks Michael.
Cheers
Mike
Hi Mike thanks for the Video, Great idea,. One thing I've seen people do when showing something close up to the camera, they put their hand behind the item so the camera can auto focus..
thanks for watching Steve, good idea re the close up focus, I have used it before, but I had a brain freeze I think...ah well plod on as they say ;)
Take care
Mike
Hi Mike, I need to cut out 1 inch beads, would a roughing gouge do the same job as your spindle gouge conversion.. If not any suggestions? Thank you.
Hi Derek, in theory it could be reshaped, but I would think a bead of that size would be better off turned … just my opinion though.
Cheers
Mike
Great video, I prefer the ones made by the tool you made, Could you use a cheap spindle tool off ebay ?
Thanks Mart, yes you could mate, no problem, but if it's a cheaper steel it will need honing a bit more often.
Cheers
Mike
excellent video, thankyou
Thank you Maryke
Cheers
Mike
Hi, have you used the D-Way deading tool. I am getting alot of tear out. Any suggestions? Thanks for the video.
I haven't used that particular make, but have a similar one. I have found I get best results by cutting on centre, lifting the tool slowly with little pressure, and always honing the face/edge regularly. Hope this helps.
@@MikeWaldt Thanks
Massive difference between them isn't there Mike. I had made two ring gouges from old large Allen keys. They didn't do a bad job but not made for the same reason you had, hiding a joint. When I get back to the lathe again I will see if the old keys could be adjusted on the grinder....might leave one as is.... cheers my friend 👍🏼😊
Just remembered I also made a captive ring gouge from another Allen key..that worked well too 👍🏼
There is Marc, and thanks for watching my friend.
Cheers
Mike
Thank mike for a good video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it Tomas
Cheers
Mike
Hi mike could I ask what magazine you get each month? Thanks Ollie
Hi Ollie, I get Woodturning Magazine mate :)
www.thegmcgroup.com/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=695
Cheers
Mike
Good idea Mike I will do one of mine. Regards de Mick the "Grinder"
Thanks Mike, hope it works for you too :)
Cheers
Mike
hi mike where can i get a live center you are using for this video , thanks Gwyn,
Hi Gwyn, it's a Robert Sorby Stebb Centre.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike. I actually tried this once. I didn't grind the angle correctly. I'll try again.
if you play around with the angle, and grind a relief on each side it should, with a little practice, work out OK for you mate.
Cheers
Mike
Is it possible to get a view/diagram from the side of how the tool is presented to the wood?
For some reason I feel like I'm not getting it quite right.
I do show the presentation in the close ups while forming the three sets of beads, maybe you missed that part.
Take care
Mike
Good idea Mike :)
Thank you David
Cheers
Mike
Very interesting would like to try making a beading tool like that to make wood wheels to get a uniform round over...
Glad you found it of interest Jerry, should work just fine for wheels me thinks :)
Take care
Mike
That's interesting Mike thank you. Ozzy.
Hi Ozzy, thanks for watching mate.
Cheers
Mike
Neat idea Mike, cool video. I tried to check out Pat's channel but I keep getting a unavailable site message, could you please check and see if you've entered the proper address?
Hi Len, and thank you. I've just checked the link, and it works for me, and takes me to Pat's Facebook page.
Take care
Mike
great info mate and thanks, I have some old spindle gouges, those cheapish ones that come in a set that i picked up before I even had a lathe , just collecting dust in a draw, Im the same rather than throw them i kept them incase that "one day" actually comes :)
Hi Mark, it is a great way to repurpose old gouges, and is quite effective.
Cheers
Mike
Really great idea bet you've just raised the price of old gouges on eBay now 😂
Lol....and thank you Roger....better get in quick then mate ;)
Cheers
Mike
Bearing in mind I know next to ' naff all ' about wood turning, how about getting some stainless steel pipe to the width required for a bead, drill a vertical hole [ now maybe you have 2 pcs ] and then shape to desired angle ..? .. sorry, just thinking aloud.Good vid anyhow.
Hi Brian, that could work, but I have no stainless pipe, but I did have a couple of worn down gouges ;)
Thanks for the suggestion though, and bothering to comment :)
Take care
Mike
Yes ... I'm full of ideas and as the Mrs. says, just a shame that a lot of them are about as much use as a chocolate T-pot ..lolBack to the drawing board eh !
Could you not reshape the store bought beading tool?
It's possible, but you don't have a chance to fiddle about too much to get it right, as the profile cannot be easily restored. The benefit of the gouge is that the flute allows you to try different grinds, to see what works best for you. Thanks for the suggestion though John, and for commenting.
Take care
Mike
Quiet welcome..
John D
If you want to buy beading tools check out D-way tools, Dave makes excellent turning tools and has a 5 piece set of beading tools plus a teardrop shaped detail tool. I bought his full set and love them. They make precise beading fast and easy.
Dave has a detailed video on UA-cam about them.
Hi James, this video is just to show how you can repurpose old gouges, I have watched Dave's video several times and wish we could get something similar in the UK, they look as if they perform really well.
Cheers
Mike