Gandalf's SECRET Weapon: the Ring of Fire 🔥
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- All about Gandalf's secret ring that he received from Cirdan the Shipwright.
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As someone who has read the Silmarillion several times, it is easy to get bogged down in the weight of the lore and miss connections with individual characters. You perfectly summarize their stories. And these videos are hilarious and creative. Well done, and keep them coming!
Thanks I really appreciate your comment 🙌😅.
I feel most Tolkien sites are very serious. I have been having a ton of fun making ones that make me laugh! 🤣🤣🤣
I really love how you format these videos! And they are amazingly helpful for anything I would want to know about Tolkiens world. Also why did Gandalf send Pippin to light the beacon if he had the ring of 🔥?
Thanks. I really appreciate the positive vibes!!! 😅
To answer your question:
* in the books, this doesn't happen. Denethor is a bit different and totally involved in defending the city and orders the beacons to be lit.
* in the movie, I assume just to give the hobbits more to do and keep the focus of the narrative on them
BTW... I love LOVE the lighting if the beacons scene so much. Cinema at it's best!!!
Then he fell in to a burning ring of fire.
He went down down down and the flames went higher.
It burns burns burns.
The ring of fire , the ring of fire.
Wow, that fits super well. Maybe J Cash was a secret LOTR fan??? 🤔🤔
You deserve more views man
I watched the films countless times. I also read the books but I think I'm going to read them again thanks to you. These are the best videos for lotr series I think because you also mention about the books and make thorough explanations. Thank you.
Aw yeah!! ＼（〇◡ｏ）／ Glad you liked it! Trying to be informative, but also trying to have some fun too. Glad it's working.
Gandalf is Maiar, so are Balrogs. He did not require a ring of power to fight one. Fëanor was an elf, an exceptionally gifted elf, but an elf nonetheless who fought numerous Balrog at the same time. An older, more powerful entity can take one.
He wasn’t announcing he has one of the rings that Sauron so desperately sought to one of Sauron’s allies, he was saying “I am a servant to Eru, he who wields the secret fire of creation, playing games with me is not a good idea.”
Well said. Great comment. I picture Gandalf's speech to the Balrog as:
* I am a servant of the secret fire : to me this means a servant of Eru
* wielder of the flame of anor : to me this a reference to the ring of fire. anor can mean sun or aman, but doesn't personally make any sense to me unless its talking about the ring?
* not sure I would consider the Balrog one of Sauron's allies or not.
What do you think?
@@thegreyhavens167 I think I was a bit of an asshole and you were entirely polite and respectful, and it was completely uncalled for. I apologize.
I second this motion. ❤ 💯% 📚
@@SuperSoundtracksEX after reading your comment again, I'd say you were more just expressing your opinion. Definitely didn't get an "asshole" vibe from you comment.
Just because Gandalf was a Maiar like the Balrogs does not mean he was their equal. In fact, Gandalf was actually nerfed when he was initially sent to Middle Earth.
Further, we know that the Maiar who became Balrogs were specifically empowered by Melkor. According to Tolkien, there were only 3 to 7 Balrogs total. We know specific fate of only three. Gothmog, the first lord of the Balrogs, was killed by Ecthelion in the Fall of Gondolin, but Ecthelion was also killed. A second Balrog was killed by Glorfindel. Glorfindel also died in this feat. We don't know that Balrog's name. And Durin's Bane, which was killed by Gandalf, who also died in the attempt (I'm noticing a pattern here).
The fate of the other Balrogs is unknown, though presumably they were killed in the War of Wrath. The only other named Balrog is Lungorthin who is mentioned in the The Lay of the Children of Húrin. He is also called the Lord of the Balrogs, but it is unclear his authority as it related to Gothmog.
It's never mentioned that Feanor actually killed a Balrog.
The Skyrim references brought a smile to my face. I know the times I did play Skyrim were foolish gluttonous times, but I hope the goosebumps that its trailer gives me can be embraced not only as consumptionism.
(Gandalf as the Dovakhiin was spot on! Really made him a main character like Frodo/Aragorn! Really epic, though not as epic as the original trailer of course, few things are.)
1:45 Yep, TheGrayHavens did honor to Círdan, he recognized that he (as the only elf in Middle-Earth) had a beard.
And OMG Círdan was actually born at Cuiviénen, he is the oldest Elf in Middle-Earth! (Though he did not pronounce Cuiviénen correctly.)
Also, a mistake that TheGrayHavens makes is referring to "Gods" often, while they were Valar, and the name "God", while applicable to Eru, was not used in the legendarium.
Círdan was granted the greatest gift of foresight out of all the Elves in Middle-Earth, from 2nd Age on. He spoke against the forging of the Rings of Power, but after the damage is done, was gifted Narya by Celebrimbor anyway. Círdan foresaw that Olórin would be the best of the Istari, so when the Wizard arrived at the Havens, the Shipwright gave him Narya.
"It's the ring of fire that allows him to stand up against the Balrog, pitting the fire that burns and consumes, against the fire that warms and illiminates. The fire that rages and instills fear, against the fire that encourages and gives hope."
(Though it is still a guess, what really made Gandalf defeat Durin's Bane. Maybe Narya, but maybe the fact that the restraints the Valar put on him were lifted when he faced a foe who was another Maia, that was, moreover, not even supposed to still be there.)
(Notice the use of music in this video. During the initial game-like sequence, it is the Skyrim OST, then, during a lore-dump, it was the GoT theme, then another game soundtrack during a game-related scene, but then, most importantly...
When the video turned serious, the LotR music began, and it (being awesome) immediately turned the funny sequence into an epic one.)
@kazikmajster5650, your the first person to directly mention the Trailer for Skyrim🏆🏆🏆. Honestly, it might be the best trailer for anything I have ever seen.... EPIC! I still remember seeing that trailer 15 years ago and being totally BLOWN AWAY! (poor Starfield 🥲)
-- yeah I definitely get some flak for referring to the Valar as "gods". Here is my thinking: about 65% of my audience has never read the Sims... so they don't really know the world at all. I can't just use words like Eru or Valinor or Valar. It's sometimes a balancing act to respectfully represent Tolkien knowledge to both the main books/movie only folks, and also the Tolkien literary fans. But you make a fair point. Any suggestions how you would describe them to a casual fan?
(btw, while the Hobbit movies are not perfect, that Misty Mountains song is FIRE 🔥)
Really glad you liked the vid! Thanks for the kind words and the awesome comment! I hope you have a great Monday! ＼（〇◡ｏ）／
Nice! Could be a nice follow up if you explained Sarumans attempts to forge a ring/if it worked/whats the deal with ring forging etc. Quote: "For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours!"
I love it!!!! That's a great topic, thanks for that. Just added it to the list.
I wonder what Saruman's ring actually does? I dont think we ever really see it in action? What do you think?
@thegreyhavens167 happy to give you an idea for you to make another great video! 👍 think It was most certainly not on par with great rings. I think there are two possibilities. 1- even though he was an expert ring lore (and a crafter), he lacked critical knowledge of ring making Sauron/Smiths of Eregion had; and with his (lacking) knowledge of the ring-making process (and with his envy to possess the one ring) he only managed to forge a lower rank ring which is basically a trinket . 2- it was a gift from Sauron.
In the book of the Fellowship of the Ring, it is stated that Saruman had a certain ring around his finger. Saruman said "For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker..." Saruman was also researching a certain Ring-lore which is also stated in the Fellowship of the Ring book: "Saruman, failing to get possession of the One Ring, would ... have found in Mordor the missing links in his own researches into Ring-lore, and before long he would have made a Great Ring of his own with which to challenge the self-styled Ruler of Middle-Earth". Why he didn't/couldn't is anyone's guess. Envy and impatience might have gotten the better of him.
@thegreyhavens167 lastly, I personally thought, even though ring was of inferior quality compared to the one / and the three; his ring might have aided him creating a whole race, the uruk-hai
Saruman of many colors lol if Saruman was in front of me and told me that I would piss myself. Half because of how funny it is and half because of how unchecked he allowed his ego to be. I'd be like "Calm down Jonathan".
@praetorian3902 true 😄 Gandalf being the total boss he is, responded perfectly imo. Here is the whole quote:
"For I am Saruman the Wise, Saruman Ring-maker, Saruman of Many Colours!'
I looked then and saw that his robes, which had seemed white, were not so, but were woven of all colours, and if he moved they shimmered and changed hue so that the eye was bewildered.
I liked white better,' I said.
White!' he sneered. 'It serves as a beginning. White cloth may be dyed. The white page can be overwritten; and the white light can be broken.'
In which case it is no longer white,' said I. 'And he that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.'
While you may be right, I have other thoughts. The location and wielder of the Three Rings of the Elves is kept secret. No one is supposed to know where those rings are. Specifically, no one except four people knew that Gandalf had Narya: Cirdan, Elrond, Galadriel and (obviously) Galdalf himself. If they were meant to be kept secret, why would Gandalf reveal to one of his biggest enemies that he had one of the Elven Rings? It does not appear that Gandalf wanted to actually fight the Balrog ("Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."). So, why tell the Balrog that he had the ring?
Admittedly, who knows what the Balrog was doing. After all, he was essentially MIA until the Dwarves found him. So, for about 5000 years, the Balrog was just sitting beneath Khazad-dum for reasons unknown. Bear in mind that Khazad-dum was founded before the First Age, so the Balrog somehow escaped the War of Wrath and then snuck into Khazad-dum to hide out well underneath the city. The Balrog may not have understood the significance of the various rings. That being said, though, it would be difficult to believe that the Balrog had no idea what was going on.
I mean, your not wrong! 😅. I think that's a totally reasonable way to read it. Well said.
I also think it's weird he revealed it. But the word "welder" is so specific..... And Anor, the Sun? Just can't see how it could mean anything else. Though that being said, I doubt the Balrog had any idea what he meant. Maybe G was just trying to be intimidating?
The elf that gave Gandalf the ring of fire, did he give it to him because he saw the future or because he was a good judge of character and believed that Gandalf is 100% incorruptible (to evil thus will never join it in the future) ? Or some other reason perhaps ?
Yep, you pretty much got it right on!
He saw Gandalf, and immediately foresaw the future than G would be the primary champion against Sauron. So he gave him the ring, straight up.
Eric
@@thegreyhavens167 "Straight up" lol
Gandalf : Good day. May I ask your name ?
Elf : Take this ring.
yes thats how its done
i was the ring that day
@@10uRization lol
This long version rocks!
Aw yeah!!!!! Thanks 🙏. Glad you liked it! 😅
Indeed :)
This is an extended cut??? What the fudge??
Love that you got jorrvaskr in a video of middle earth
@AscendantLord... there is a strong chance that you and I both played waaaaaay too much Skyrim 🤣🤣🤣
@@thegreyhavens167 only 12 years and apparently 4.2 billion quests from what my stats say
@@thegreyhavens167 exact number of quests completed 4,294,967,294 ⬆️🤣🤣
Loving the videos! Spreading knowledge in a fun and casual, yet informative way!
Aw yeah ＼（〇◡ｏ）／ I love this comment!! Thanks!
I kinda feel a lot of the Tolkien sites out there are way too serious. It's like going to church or something... so just trying to have a bit more fun with it! 😅
I’ve watched all your videos (not all the shorts) and I’ve now run out! Thanks for making some great content, I’ve enjoyed all of them. Your choice of music is classic, enthusiasm is infectious, and you are a great storyteller. Thanks for the work, and I am sure I speak for others, it’s great work. 😊
Awww yeah!!!! (ノ^_^)ノ. Glad you liked them!
I appreciate the nice comment. You can imagine I get a good amount of trolls 🤣, and really appreciate the positivity! You rock!
Skyrim ost hits hard.
The stats oml 😂
You do it again. Damn. Love the vids!
🤣🤣🤣🤣. Glad you liked it! Why does Skyrim still make me smile??? After all these years? 🤣🤣🤣
@@thegreyhavens167 you should use Witcher 3 ost too hehe
can you call it secret when he was shouting about it to the balrog?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Best comment of the day!!!
P.s. never trust a secret to Gandalf I guess.
Bro, the newer videos are so good! Before I liked watching them but now they're even better, good job man. These are probably my favorite Tolkien videos on youtube, the humor is also REALLY funny... Congratulatons on 10K subs and keep going man...great work :D
Aw yeah!!!! Thanks for that... I do think this is my best work so far!! I'm really proud of this one 🥲
Thanks for sticking around for so long. Seems like you were one of my first ever subs. Hopefully things are going great with you.
Hahaha love the Skyrim music and sound effects in this video.
Awww yeah!!!! Glad you liked it!
(there is a small chance I spent waaaaay too much time playing Skyrim back in the day) 🤣
Why isn't the Ring of Fire visible, as is the One Ring, to everyone around him? Is the Ring of Fire itself invisible? Does Gandalf keep it hidden?
Thanks for the great question! For some reason, the three rings of the elves are invisible. Only other ring bearers can see them. And they are considered top secret, no one is allowed to talk about who has them. No one can see Gandalf, Elrond, or Galadriel's rings - except themselves and Frodo (who has the one ring). So if Sauron ever got his ring back, he would instantly know those 3 had the other rings and be able to control their minds and thoughts. So Elrond, Gandalf, and Galadriel were risking a lot to send Frodo into Mordor... risking their very identity and free will. (great comment btw)
"I fell in to a burning ring of fire...🎼🎵"😂
These are really fun to watch, very well made!
Aw yeah! Thanks! ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ
Yo thanks for using my picture looks awesome
Lmao this guyyyyyyy 😂😂😂 fus ro dahh ❤❤❤ this was so goood nice job
Aw yeah!!! ＼（〇◡ｏ）／
Skyrim has been out for almost 15 years.... but by the 9 divines it still make me smile every time I think about it!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@thegreyhavens167 lol me too
Sub'd
I just found your channel and I've been enjoying all of your content!
Keep up the great work!
Aw yeah!!! Glad you like it (ノ^⌣^)ノ. I'm a new channel, not sure if I know what I'm doing.... but having a TON of fun doing it 🤣😎. Welcome aboard!
@@thegreyhavens167 W00T! I'm in on the ground floor of a great new channel! Keep 'em rolling!
More Skyrim soundtrack! Now that you have been outed there's no stopping you lol. 😊😊😊❤😊😊😊
I can't help it man!!!! I think I have an addiction!! 🤣🤣
@@thegreyhavens167 I think you need some Witcher 3 soundtrack usage really soon. 😊❤️😊
Nice to see your channel growing so quickly, can't wait for more content from you, but don't burn yourself out
Aw Yeah!!! ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪ Thanks, I appreciate that! I'm having a ton of fun making these crazy vids.
Dude, your video are absolutely perfect ! Don't change a thing, you'll soon become one of the main youtuber out there (i have the gift of forsight as well)
I appreciate that!!! Thanks for sending some positive vibes my way. I hope your day is awesome
@@thegreyhavens167 well i'm working from home and watching yours videos instead, can't be better. How about ya 😅
❤ thanks for this cool video ❤❤❤
Underrated content, man. Hilarious, informative. Tolkien would be proud.
Much appreciated! Glad you like it. 😅 fwiw, I am having a ton of fun making it, too.
Resistance to *_Took Nonsense?_* Not true! Exactly *_Took Nonsense_* was Gandalf's secret weapon to disrupt Sauron's schemes, so he kept Pippin by his side, in order to mess things up a little bit and create chaos.
🤣🤣🤣 Best Comment of the Day!! 🏆🏆🏆
I mean you're not wrong!
i think gandalf has the powers all the wizards
Can do magic and craft stuff
Can talk to animals
Can make people work for him(call it encouragement or dominating them)
Keep the videos coming! Very cool!
Thanks, I appreciate that! 😅
You can clearly see Gandalf with the Ring of Fire in The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies (the extended version) at 28:29.
Ive been getting your short vids for a while now, and im surprised that youre only at 10k, your content if funny and interesting, you should be up there with the rest of the tolkien/lotr youtubers
Aw yeah! Thanks for sending those positive vibes my way! I appreciate it. 😅
That intro is just so damn good.
Aw yeah!!!! 😎. Thanks for sending positive vibes my way. Glad you liked it. (I "may" have "slightly" copied the famous trailer from Skyrim 🤣)
Love your videos🤩🥰
I really appreciate that!!! Thanks for taking the time to send positive vibes my way 🙇😅
Dude this video was so good it can only be described as the work of a great wizard! Shared and subscribed! 🧙♂️✨️🌌
The best video I have watched on UA-cam today! 🧙♂️
Gandalf is awesome 😎.
How about the two trees of Valinor?
Awww yeah!! ＼（〇◡ｏ）／ G is a LEGEND!!!
Two Trees of Valinor added to the list. Anything you particularly like about them or want to see more on?
@@thegreyhavens167 They glowed. One has silver and the other has gold.
You should do a video on Gandalf vs the Witch King to clarify the nonsense that we saw in the extended edition of Return of the King :)
You know what.... that's actually a really good idea!!!! I assume you feel the same way that I do: there is NO WAY in Arda that son of a Took would stand a chance against G, right,???
@@thegreyhavens167 Right - that scene makes me cringe that Gandalf the White goes down so easily.
For me, it was very satisfying to see Gandalf bested, for once. It made the enemy seem powerful (Tolkien always seems to under-power his antagonist characters) and therefore the stakes higher. Otherwise, Gandalf seems to be able to defeat anyone/everyone, except for one loss to Sauron (and even was made to win that one on a rematch).
@@jetuber Wut? Gandalf got his ass handed to him by Sauron in the Hobbit movies and Saruman in Fellowship of the Ring. Meanwhile the Witch King was driven off by Aragorn and flooded away by Arwen in Fellowship and killed by a girl and a hobbit in Return of the King. There is NO WAY that the Witch King should have bested Gandalf the White. This was something added in the movie for no reason other than to show that the good guys were in trouble or something. @thegreyhavens167 you still need a video to call this out :)
@@midknightfalconfan You're making my point for me. By having the main antagonist (since Sauron himself is not active in the battle) so absurdly easily defeated as to be "driven off by Aragorn and flooded away by Arwen in Fellowship and killed by a girl and a hobbit in Return of the King," the side of the enemy looks way too weak. Those were all poor choices. Having the Witch King defeat Gandalf was an excellent choice and a welcome scene, as it reasserted the idea that there was at least some menace and power in the opposing side.
Very fuj and nice video was nice to lisen to 😁
Thanks. Glad you liked it!! 😅
❤Epic❤
Awwww yeah!!!! (ノ^_^)ノ
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for the kind comment!
Long versions are worth checking out! (And no that's not what she said).
Though I may have one dumb question.. in the movies we see how stronK the army of the dead is in fight for Gondor.. why not take them to the black gate too? I get they had a pact of some sort but still..
Thanks for the positive vibes!!! 😅
Why not use the Army of the Dead? Great question. I have a short on that: ua-cam.com/users/shortscQLFwzjQqQw?feature=share
But if your not in a video mood, here goes:
* In the movie: I agree with you. They SHOULD use the Army of the Dead to fight Mordor!
* In the book: the Dead are WAY different. They probably cant fight at all and are not too dangerous. They are instead just SUPER SCAREY 👻. They scare the pirates away from the ships, and Aragorn uses them to get the Armies of Gondor to Minas Tirith to save the day.
* In both movie and book: there is a "rumor" that Sauron is a Necromancer. Hard to say if it's true or not. If it is though, might not want to take a ghost army towards him!
There you go. What do you think?
Many thanks!
Gandalf doesn’t reveal ge has the ring to the Balrog. His speech is about him serving Iluvatar not that he has a magic ring. He serves the true god of middle earth and because of that he will not let the Balrog win and get to Frodo and his friends.
I agree and also Wizards have their signature magic thing that they do. Radagast talks to animals. Saruman voice of power. Gandalf's is fire.
Can't convince me that without the ring Gandalf wouldn't be lighting things up 🔥
Best i can figure, rings increase power, unlock new powers, increase mental fortitude in a unique way, and have some kind of deep connection with the spiritual world.
amazing, think I missed this one
Love how much work you put into this
Thanks! I appreciate that. It is a bit of work, to be sure, but I also get to spend a bunch of time watching LOTR while doing it.... which is always awesome 😎😎!
Glad you liked it!
I really enjoy learning about the details of genres like these! I've been watching a lot of SW content lately, and I love the Mandalorian snd Skyrim bits you throw in 😊 I'll have to tune in more to learn from you!
Glad you liked it. I gotta say that Mando theme song is a banger of a tune!!!
Very cool!
This is why Gandalf is the top G.
This channel reminds me of Dwight Schrute - Question?!
Which bear is best??? Is that what you're thinking by any chance? I will take that as a compliment 🤣!
what is that music @ 2:34? cool video btw
The music is the player selection screen from Super Smash Bros on the Nintendo Game Cube. I mean.... No idea why that was in my head???? 🤦🤷 But glad you liked the video!!! 🤣
That's it. I'm gonna follow you now
Awww yeah!!!! 😎. Glad you liked the video. Welcome aboard!
His secret weapon was Old Toby, the finest Weed in the Southfarthing
🤣🤣. Clearly the halfling leaf has showed his mind 🤣🤣
Maybe there Saruman, but at least I didn’t have Gay Sex with Sauron, an Entity
Have fun choking on Orc Penis
Me and Elrond decapitated this Orc and stabbed another? Put the Cock of the full body into the mouth of the head and said fuck you
Someone called him a Faggot, he flipped tf out and walked him to the Gates and cut his dick off and he ran off screaming in the woods, saying “Where’s my Penis”
Question? when Frodo, bilbo and gollum have the one ring, would they be able to control all the rings of power?
Great question. Here is what we can say with good certainly:
1) The Ring will make you "want" to control and dominate all life - so you will definitely try to control the other ring bearers (Elrond, Galadriel, and Gandalf).
2) The Ring allows you to be in direct touch with the other ring bearers thoughts and minds.
3) The Ring allows Sauron to immediately control the minds of the other ring bearers.
Here is the big question though (and I don't know that there is a definitive answer) --- does the Ring give you the power to do #2 and #3 above?? Or does it just give you the power to #2 and Sauron is using his own power to do the dominating?? What do you think?
My personal guess is that the Ring gives you power to contact AND dominate the other three. Again, it's only my guess. I also have a theory that Bilbo was using this ability for decades, though did not know it. How come Gandalf never realized that Bilbo's ring was the One Ring? He knew all about it for 60 years... it was kinda obvious, really. So how did Gandalf now know???? My person theory is that Bilbo (who was excellent at hiding) unknowingly used the Ring to control Gandalf's mind to hide it's identity from him - to convince him not to look deeper into it. (Bilbo HATED Gandalf asking about his Ring) It wasn't until Bilbo gave it up and stopped using it, that Gandalf was free from it's influence, and started investigating it.
There you go - that may be a crazy theory and there is no direct evidence of it. What do you think?
@@thegreyhavens167 thank you for that explanation. :) that makes sense
Rofl, love the skyrim twist! 😂
Thanks! Glad you liked it. 🤣🤣 Gotta say I don't know what it is about Skyrim... been out for 100 years yet somehow it still makes me chuckle. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is no one going to talk how Saruman beat Gandalf without a ring?
Best comment of the day 🏆🏆🏆
But of course.... Saruman DID have a ring!! 😎
I always wondered, how exactly did he beat Gandalf? In the films they had a matrix style magic fight. But in the books there is no real fight... G knows he cant win and just surrenders. But was it just to Saruman? Or did he have soldiers with him or something? It's weird? And why did he never take Gandalf's staff away? Or take the Ring off his finger? It's weird.
A shame that Rings of Power + Privilege is fumbling what could’ve been juicy lore.
Maiar are angels, not gods. God in Tolkien's work is Eru- Iluvatar.
Yep - mostly agree with you! But gotta keep these vids simple and to the point. The majority of people watching this have never read the Sims and don't know about Valinor, the Valar, Maiar, Morgoth, etc. So trying to meet them on their level... and in the process we are encouraging a LOT of people to read the books! 👍🎉
BTW, Tolkien does refer to the Valar as "gods" about a dozen times in both the Sims and in letters, so can't be too bad, right? 🤔😅
Qvestion?
Did Saruman use gunpoweder to make the mines ? And was he first one to use it or did someone else use gunpoweder before him?
Great question. None of this is explicitly spelled out in the books, because the author (Frodo, in this case) does not understand what he is seeing and being told about. But here is my personal opinion on it:
* Nope, no other mention of anyone outside of Saruman using what I would call "chemical explosives"
* Others (Sauron, Gandalf) use fire magic, but nothing that would seem like gunpowder. That's a Saruman special.
In my opinion, Saruman is the god of physics and deep learning. He represents scientific knowledge without moral boundaries. For example he "cross breeds" orcs and men to make the Uruk-Hai, which sounds way more scientific than how others magically create orcs. He makes factories with wheels and gears powered by furnaces, which heavily imply steam engines to me. He industrializes the region around Isengard without regard for the land or pollution, and in the end... all of nature rises against him as the very trees wage war against him.
There you go. What do you think?
@@thegreyhavens167 I can see where you comeing from and it make sense.
I know about the magic abut that not really chemical explosive
wonder if it was use after the lord of the rings by dwars or someone else for some other use
thanks for answering qvestion.
This is great
Thanks for the positive vibes! Glad you liked it
Fwiw, I am having a ton of fun making these vids!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@thegreyhavens167 nice! I’ve always wanted to do something like this but haven’t really found a good way to start out also are you open to video ideas?
@@The_Og_Bluego_Raptor Oh yeah, totally open to video ideas. Probably 50% of my videos are suggested topics!
Can you make a video on Smaug?
Ohhh, that's pretty cool. I love the Hobbit! Thanks for the suggestion. Anything in particular you would like to hear at about?
Your LoTR videos are the best. You have the wits of a Took I confess! 😂
How are these clips in movie version. Did i miss one of the movies or something?
🤣🤣 A good amount are from the Hobbit movies too 🤣🤣
Why didn’t Saruman noticed Gandalf had the third elven ring?
Great question... and honestly, I don't have a good answer 😔 Sry about that, but I think it's a mystery (or some would say a plot hole 🤨)
* The three elven Rings are invisible when worn. (Frodo sees them in the book, but only because he has the One Ring)
* But Saruman, however, figured out that G had one of the three Rings a couple decades before.... and he was 🤬🤬🤬!!
* This is one of the main reasons why Saruman went bad in the first place - we was angry and jealous that G had the ring that he wanted.
* Additionally, it was super powerful and Saruman could have totally used it.
So... when Saruman captured G why didn't he take it off of him? It makes no sense? (same thing... why did he let G keep his staff and sword I wonder) I personally see it as a tiny plot hole, though others would read it differently. To my knowledge, there is no good explanation. ＼（〇_ｏ）／
You got any ideas?
Just a thought what if Cirdan gave him that ring when they were leaving to take back with him so Cirdan could stay a little longer?
It was never used via Gandalf’s story so what if he never had the ring until the end and we all overlooked that?
Meaning Saruman didn’t notice it as Gandalf didn’t have it until afterwards!
Is that possible?
I mean he is prob the best one of these lotr youtubers i mean the artwork is just awsome. Khand…
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now I crack up 🤣 everytime I see the word Khand 🤣🤣
What exactly happened to the Nazgûl when Sauron was destroyed at the end of the Third Age?
They.... died!
They were men so they were destined to grow old and die. Even Sauron or the gods cant give men more life. But Sauron figured out a work-around. The rings don't give more life... they just stretch out the life they already have. So their "living self" get's thinner and thinner, till at least they are barely alive. WIthout the one ring though, instantly die and go to wherever human spirits are supposed to go to.
Great Questoin! I think I might make a video on that. Thanks!
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Why did Aragorn warn Gandalf when they entered Moria? What did he know?
Great Question: Aragorn has the gift of foresight. It runs in his family, on his mother's side. It's honestly rarely mentioned in the books and I think it only pops up this one time.
His spidey senses start going crazy and he gets a bad premonition that if they go into the mines something terrible will happen to Gandalf. He basically tells Gandalf if they go in there he is going to die. G doesn't seem to take it too seriously (at least that's how I read it).
Note Aragorn doesn't "know" anything, just his foresight warning him. A feeling I guess.
There you go. What do you think?
@@thegreyhavens167 I like your explanation. If I remember correctly Aragorn and Gandalf sneak away to have private conversations apart from the group as they make plans for their journey. It would make sense that Aragorn would share his concerns in these meetings and then remind Gandalf when the decision to enter Moria had to be made.
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Who are the dwarves who were gifted rings? What project did Sauron have for them?
Thanks. I really appreciate that.
Honestly just making videos that combine the things I love and kinda makes me laugh.... And hoping they work out! 🤣🤣
Hope you have an awesome Wednesday!!! 😎
The seven rings for the dwarves were given to the heads of the seven dwarves clans.
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There is a chance I spent waaaaay too much time playing Skyrim 🤔🤔🤣🤣!!!!
@@thegreyhavens167 Well I won't blame you, haha.
@@thegreyhavens167 I was playing the game alot when it was out.
Same. I haven't played in years either. But for a few years there..... it was one of the best gaming experiences ever!!
Video idea.
"The entire history of middle earth I guess"
I need to see this!
🤔🤔 Actually, not a bad idea. Just a general idea of everything.... I'm going to give that dinner thought 🤔🤔. Thanks!
Who was the barrow wight
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Can't go wrong with Linkin Park... ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
The one ring can expand.
So where did Gandalf wares the ring...
The only ring Saruman could have received is the ring of broken teeth
🤣🤣. I sometimes feel some measure of sympathy for Saruman. We have all found ourselves in situations that spiral out of control.... but then I remember what he did to the Shire afterwards 🤬🤬🤬🤬
If the one ring is to rule them all, wouldn't it be a liability to wear as the One Ring has a mind of its own?
Yep - well said. I think that's true for sure in the movies.
Book ring is a bit different. It's doesn't really have a "personality" in the books:
* It's filled with Sauron's spirit
* If you join with it, you infuse his spirit with yours
* So basically, you become the new evil dark lord.
What do you think?
@@thegreyhavens167 That does make more sense, but I guess it could mean that Frodo could influence Gandalf if he knew how to to or the desire to use it.
Where did the Hobbits come from?
@LoneKnight02, ok, I am going to give you two answers. The first one is probably the right one, but the second is a crazy theory I have (totally unsupported by everything!)
😑 They are just humans. Just regular humans that through natural selection have evolved into slightly different height, feet size, etc.
🤔 or..... there is another person in the vicinity of the Shire, that shares a LOT of connection to them, and is short, and sings, and loves mushrooms, and love nature, and has a resistance to evil... TOM BOMBADIL. Any chance the Hobbits are descendants from Tommy B and a mortal???????? 😱😱🤯🤯🤯🤯
There you go. What do you think?
@@thegreyhavens167 I like the second explanation better, but it sparks a new question. Where does Tom Bombadil come from?
Does he not wear the ring? Where is it?
Yup - Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel all wear the 3 great rings of power. They are a big secret though, and no one is supposed to know who has them. When you wear them, the rings turn invisible so no one can see them (except Frodo saw Galadriel's because he was using the One Ring, which is their master).
Note Saruman in the book also found a way to create a ring - and his was also invisible - though Gandalf was able to see it like clear glass. What a legend!
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Why did Gandalf lose to Saruman?
@julianpumarejo8719, SUPER GREAT QUESTION!!! How does Sman easily capture G and put him atop the tower. I mean in the movie they have a fight scene that feels a bit to "matrix-y" for me. But in the book, seems like G can't even really put up a fight and just surrenders. But how? I mean Tolkien later says in letters that G was more powerful from the start.... and let's not forget that G had a magic ring that made him even MORE powerful. So what's the story? How does a more powerful Gandalf get wrecked by Saruman?
Well no one know for sure because Gandalf didn't say too much about it, but here are some of my personal theories (all could be wrong 🤣):
* Urak-hai maybe? Book Gandalf isn't quite the sword fighter as movie Gandalf in my opinion. Maybe they just rushed in and took him?
* Sman had created a magic ring for himself too. Maybe the ring made him more powerful?
* The wizards took a pledge not to use their full power. Maybe Sman is breaking the oath and using more of his power somehow, but G is still playing by the rules?
Even more though: in my mind there is a lot that's wrong with the story. For example, when G gets back to Rivendell he still has his famous sword and his cool staff. So Saruman just let him keep the staff? While in prison up there? And keep his sword also? While a prisoner? And Saruman didn't take his magic ring? What? Whole thing makes no sense. 🤔🤔
In my personal opinion there is only one answer (at least in universe answer).... Gandalf is not telling us the "true" story. There are things with the wizards that we would not understand or he just doesn't feel comfortable saying, and we are not getting the whole story. We are getting such a high level retelling, that we are missing some significant details. Whatever happened, it was not as simple as Sman put me in jail and I escaped.
There you go. That's my opinion. What do YOU think is the reason?
He laid down his life, for a higher purpose, and took it up again. Died and rose again. Hmmmm. For the greater good 🤣 but didn't want to boast.
ERU: Playing fire with fire will get you burn, didn't I teach you that?
GANDALF: Aw, c'mon. I've just rested. Why'd bring me back to Middle-Earth?
ERU: Let me throw you back then.
GANDALF: Shit. Why throw me at the Amazon site?
ERU: Dang! Missed throw dirty Hobbit-wannabees
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No no no this is all wrong Gandalf had no ring secret or not no no no
"As he turned and came towards them Frodo saw that Gandalf now wore openly upon his hand the third ring, Narya the great, and the stone upon it was red as fire.". 🤣🤣🤣
I hate the fact you use skyrim music and backgrounds. Better than fucking lego I suppose
Oh no, I love Legos..... 🤔
Well i generally just use the things that I personally like. Just make videos that make me chuckle. You wouldn't be the first person to think my sense of humor is... odd. 🤣
Personally LOVE the Skyrim choices. Keep them coming!!! (and never heard of someone that hates Lego)