You have given out words to what many people are feeling about the patriarchal accepted teachers of the last few decades (and longer) it's not what feels enduring, or brings peace. Thank you.
I have listened very carefully to what you had to share about this topic as it is extremely important for me to also study & annalyze through critical thinking all you have expressed. What l missed in your chat was your lack of connection with your own HEART COHERANCE & source energy, divine connection! If you wish to annalyze responsibly the teachings & lives of others l implore you that the only authentic way to responsibly & maturely accomplish this is through pure LOVE & being prepared to first self reflect. It's clear that you spoke from your base self not your higher self! Also it is noted that not once did you refer to the fact that the sacred femine & sacred masculine have suffered not just recently but for many eras of time with oppression from patriarchal dominance! The time has come for healing for both the sacred masculine & sacred feminine. Infact we need this as much as the air we breathe to accomplish our purpose on earth & for planetary healing through the greater conciousness. Incredibly your concensous produced a personal judgement rather than an assessment through a healthier ever evolving growth process of empathic understanding that we are all one energetic body evolving together at a myriad of different levels. Those certain people that you felt strongly to name due to your previously formed judgements of them showed your inflexibility to perhaps accept every single one of us is on our own personal journeys 💜 & your journey & where you find yourself in your present evolutionary process is just that! I can challenge you on that point but l will not judge you because to be wise is to know that if l judge you l would be judging myself! As with all others when we see them through DIVINE LOVE & HEART COHERANCE we understand that the Eckhart Tolles etc of this world are all in a process of constant evolving themselves. There is a human ego then a false spiritual ego then a ego that has evolved! All these are part of the evolutionary process of spiritual growth just as you & l ourselves are! When we function from non dualism we have no need to raise someone's past our own included! If we attempt to lay guilt or dump the lower aspects of ourselves that we can't bare to see so naked onto others then you must first be experiencing it somewhere within yourself. It's important to acknowledge that if we are listening or reading something that doesn't align with our energies that is a healthy observation that we should be aware of till we are ready or till the teacher has evolved more themselves or we ourselves evolve into our own teacher! Perhaps some people may never evolve sufficiently to put this into practice! But very many are right now & will continue to. Heres where one of our most tried & true pieces of spiritual wisdoms comes into play the serenity prayer as it's called clearly advises! GOD GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CANOT CHANGE, THE COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN & THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE! We must accept that everyone that has rallied to take this journey as well as ourselves is becoming selfaware to some degree. So we all can be at any given time always hoping to be the best versions of ourselves. Then we can all move forward together with no dominating heirachcies present, as most evolving spiritual souls who are authentic never claim to have the full truth. We all have part of the answers to help each other! When we all have a clear place where we sometimes take quantum leaps into higher vibrational levels of enlightenment or conciousness then we rejoice with each other as we embrace greater truths! We certainly don't hang them out to dry or dismiss their present concious wisdom as it is always growing from their lessons from their own past experiences or through direct light transmissions from our angels & guides. We rejoice when either ourselves or others are growing! We certainly don't throw the baby out with the bath water! Everyone has to start from some point whether it was through a critical breakdown of their previous old set of programming THIS BEING THE MAIN POINT. AT SOME POINT WE ARE AUTHENTICALLY ON A PROJECTORY TOWARDS ASCENSION (without question we will all need to release a huge amount of baggage & life long societal PROGRAMMING). How each person chooses to deal with that is each individuals sovereign right of their free will & should be respected as long as we are not harming ourselves or another. Now clearly if someone says they have had a epiphany as you called it & if they are authentic they will want to continue on their new path & continue to grow! We are able to assess their genuiness by the fruit they bare. When we venture into the unknown depths of conciousness it can at once feel so familiar because it's where we originated from yet also to our egoic 3rd dimension heavy burdened states can feel overwhelming as there is honestly so very much to learn. To evolve fully though we must have courage to walk the path least followed. This trepidis path often called the Hero's journey 💜 because it's going to take a lot of courage to complete it was never going to be easy but as they say it will always be fully worth it. There are so many people awakening at this time on earth which is followed soon after by most anyway with a desire to contribute to others who are waking up behind us who are coming into the new energies of the change in their souls & bodies & minds. EVERY BODY has something to contribute no matter how large or small even if possibly they may not be fully correct at their present level of awareness. Yet their own understanding desire to contribute can make a real difference in the realm of service to others rather than the old outmoded societal programming of purely service to self! Though often the first place many of us start is to begin to heal our deep rooted traumas that have become stuck somatically in our bodies & as we are incredibly human we don't always get it quite right for some the healing journey is so extensive it lasts a lifetime. Yet if we are prepared to walk free from our past societal, ancestral & past lives programming we will begin to see that there is always someone that can bring a level of their present awareness to match someone else who needs to hear what truth they themselves have gleaned! It's not wrong if we don't get it quite right it's all part of the journey & lessons we must learn through it all till we genuinely rise to the challenge & learn to discern learn to Intuit & also learn that we are the creators of our own stories knowingly or unknowingly. When we are still in our unknowing state we learn that actions have consequences. Through this we quickly learn if we train our minds & surrender to divine Spirits guidance we can get through the minefields of our life with less painful outcomes & much more joy. Depending on how how much Karma you have built up to overcome. We are all Spirits who have a soul who live in a vehicle called the human body NOBODY IS PERFECT This is the beauty of all our becomings. LEARNING TO LOVE IN THE MIDST OF ALL OUR FRAGILITIES & FLAWS & being able to accept the human condition as it grows into its full evolvement in our ascension process that is ours & recognising the mirror image reflected back to us from similar others! So you see Sir we are all just part of the whole part of one another no greater no smaller. Therefore most of your comments are just about you reflecting your own flaws about your life the ups the downs the disappointments when you felt others had failed you is nothing but your higher self trying to get messages to you that this in fact about your own fragile human flaws where you either felt safe or feared to tread. Delving into the shadow side of our nature can be incredibly confronting but we all must go there & as the Phoenix discovered come flood fire famine fear sickness & rejection just to name a few. We will surely rise together eventually even if we have to help carry each other through. If we are fully prepared to do the hard work to explore the depths of our own psyche. If we are willing with the help of the divine & sheer human fortitude we will come out of the other side of our fiery trials & in humility we will look back at those we once judged so harshly which includes our very selves & realise we are all much the same & finally we will understand why we've fought so hard to accomplish this journey! We discover everything was meant to be & that everything is exactly as it should be! Wishing you much peace strength & endless courage & fortitude in the face of adversity as well as unspeakable moments of rich gratitude & momentous triumphs as we rise beyond our wildest dreams into the very essence of PURE LOVE THAT YOU WERE BORN TO BE!
I get what you're saying about spiritual leaders-- you should be able to feel a loving aura and strong healthful presence. Spiritual leaders that feel sterile, rigid, evasive aren't moving the cause forward of 'showing, not telling'. I've heard that the word 'charismatic' stems from the idea of someone with open, strong chakras gives off that magnetic draw (it's the chakras that give the charisms). At the end of the day, it's not what you know but what you do with what you know. Be it. Well said, Jeff!
🙌 I completely connect with this. What is the point of being created as humans if we remove all our humanity while we’re alive? Mother Earth is my greatest teacher, and I aim to ground myself to a more relationally spiritual way of existing. I also think the “patriarchal spiritual” mindset can sometimes excuse morally reprehensible behavior. Thank you, I’m going to put this book on my reading list!
Yes Geoff for me I call my experience a widening...not up but out to all around me with a peace which honestly feels like on hindsight, was beaten out of me....you gotta laugh 😆
You have given out words to what many people are feeling about the patriarchal accepted teachers of the last few decades (and longer) it's not what feels enduring, or brings peace. Thank you.
I have listened very carefully to what you had to share about this topic as it is extremely important for me to also study & annalyze through critical thinking all you have expressed.
What l missed in your chat was your lack of connection with your own HEART COHERANCE & source energy, divine connection!
If you wish to annalyze responsibly the teachings & lives of others l implore you that the only authentic way to responsibly & maturely accomplish this is through pure LOVE & being prepared to first self reflect.
It's clear that you spoke from your base self not your higher self! Also it is noted that not once did you refer to the fact that the sacred femine & sacred masculine have suffered not just recently but for many eras of time with oppression from patriarchal dominance!
The time has come for healing for both the sacred masculine & sacred feminine. Infact we need this as much as the air we breathe to accomplish our purpose on earth & for planetary healing through the greater conciousness.
Incredibly your concensous produced a personal judgement rather than an assessment through a healthier ever evolving growth process of empathic understanding that we are all one energetic body evolving together at a myriad of different levels.
Those certain people that you felt strongly to name due to your previously formed judgements of them showed your inflexibility to perhaps accept every single one of us is on our own personal journeys 💜 & your journey & where you find yourself in your present evolutionary process is just that! I can challenge you on that point but l will not judge you because to be wise is to know that if l judge you l would be judging myself!
As with all others when we see them through DIVINE LOVE & HEART COHERANCE we understand that the Eckhart Tolles etc of this world are all in a process of constant evolving themselves.
There is a human ego then a false spiritual ego then a ego that has evolved! All these are part of the evolutionary process of spiritual growth just as you & l ourselves are!
When we function from non dualism we have no need to raise someone's past our own included!
If we attempt to lay guilt or dump the lower aspects of ourselves that we can't bare to see so naked onto others then you must first be experiencing it somewhere within yourself.
It's important to acknowledge that if we are listening or reading something that doesn't align with our energies that is a healthy observation that we should be aware of till we are ready or till the teacher has evolved more themselves or we ourselves evolve into our own teacher!
Perhaps some people may never evolve sufficiently to put this into practice! But very many are right now & will continue to.
Heres where one of our most tried & true pieces of spiritual wisdoms comes into play the serenity prayer as it's called clearly advises!
GOD GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CANOT CHANGE, THE COURAGE TO CHANGE THE THINGS I CAN & THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!
We must accept that everyone that has rallied to take this journey as well as ourselves is becoming selfaware to some degree. So we all can be at any given time always hoping to be the best versions of ourselves. Then we can all move forward together with no dominating heirachcies present, as most evolving spiritual souls who are authentic never claim to have the full truth. We all have part of the answers to help each other!
When we all have a clear place where we sometimes take quantum leaps into higher vibrational levels of enlightenment or conciousness then we rejoice with each other as we embrace greater truths!
We certainly don't hang them out to dry or dismiss their present concious wisdom as it is always growing from their lessons from their own past experiences or through direct light transmissions from our angels & guides. We rejoice when either ourselves or others are growing!
We certainly don't throw the baby out with the bath water!
Everyone has to start from some point whether it was through a critical breakdown of their previous old set of programming THIS BEING THE MAIN POINT. AT SOME POINT WE ARE AUTHENTICALLY ON A PROJECTORY TOWARDS ASCENSION (without question we will all need to release a huge amount of baggage & life long societal PROGRAMMING). How each person chooses to deal with that is each individuals sovereign right of their free will & should be respected as long as we are not harming ourselves or another.
Now clearly if someone says they have had a epiphany as you called it & if they are authentic they will want to continue on their new path & continue to grow! We are able to assess their genuiness by the fruit they bare.
When we venture into the unknown depths of conciousness it can at once feel so familiar because it's where we originated from yet also to our egoic 3rd dimension heavy burdened states can feel overwhelming as there is honestly so very much to learn.
To evolve fully though we must have courage to walk the path least followed. This trepidis path often called the Hero's journey 💜 because it's going to take a lot of courage to complete it was never going to be easy but as they say it will always be fully worth it.
There are so many people awakening at this time on earth which is followed soon after by most anyway with a desire to contribute to others who are waking up behind us who are coming into the new energies of the change in their souls & bodies & minds.
EVERY BODY has something to contribute no matter how large or small even if possibly they may not be fully correct at their present level of awareness. Yet their own understanding desire to contribute can make a real difference in the realm of service to others rather than the old outmoded societal programming of purely service to self!
Though often the first place many of us start is to begin to heal our deep rooted traumas that have become stuck somatically in our bodies & as we are incredibly human we don't always get it quite right for some the healing journey is so extensive it lasts a lifetime.
Yet if we are prepared to walk free from our past societal, ancestral & past lives programming we will begin to see that there is always someone that can bring a level of their present awareness to match someone else who needs to hear what truth they themselves have gleaned!
It's not wrong if we don't get it quite right it's all part of the journey & lessons we must learn through it all till we genuinely rise to the challenge & learn to discern learn to Intuit & also learn that we are the creators of our own stories knowingly or unknowingly. When we are still in our unknowing state we learn that actions have consequences. Through this we quickly learn if we train our minds & surrender to divine Spirits guidance we can get through the minefields of our life with less painful outcomes & much more joy. Depending on how how much Karma you have built up to overcome.
We are all Spirits who have a soul who live in a vehicle called the human body NOBODY IS PERFECT This is the beauty of all our becomings.
LEARNING TO LOVE IN THE MIDST OF ALL OUR FRAGILITIES & FLAWS & being able to accept the human condition as it grows into its full evolvement in our ascension process that is ours & recognising the mirror image reflected back to us from similar others!
So you see Sir we are all just part of the whole part of one another no greater no smaller.
Therefore most of your comments are just about you reflecting your own flaws about your life the ups the downs the disappointments when you felt others had failed you is nothing but your higher self trying to get messages to you that this in fact about your own fragile human flaws where you either felt safe or feared to tread. Delving into the shadow side of our nature can be incredibly confronting but we all must go there & as the Phoenix discovered come flood fire famine fear sickness & rejection just to name a few.
We will surely rise together eventually even if we have to help carry each other through. If we are fully prepared to do the hard work to explore the depths of our own psyche. If we are willing with the help of the divine & sheer human fortitude we will come out of the other side of our fiery trials & in humility we will look back at those we once judged so harshly which includes our very selves & realise we are all much the same & finally we will understand why we've fought so hard to accomplish this journey!
We discover everything was meant to be & that everything is exactly as it should be!
Wishing you much peace strength & endless courage & fortitude in the face of adversity as well as unspeakable moments of rich gratitude & momentous triumphs as we rise beyond our wildest dreams into the very essence of PURE LOVE THAT YOU WERE BORN TO BE!
I get what you're saying about spiritual leaders-- you should be able to feel a loving aura and strong healthful presence. Spiritual leaders that feel sterile, rigid, evasive aren't moving the cause forward of 'showing, not telling'. I've heard that the word 'charismatic' stems from the idea of someone with open, strong chakras gives off that magnetic draw (it's the chakras that give the charisms). At the end of the day, it's not what you know but what you do with what you know. Be it. Well said, Jeff!
Thankyou I found this so so interesting. Answered some of my own questions I have been having.
🙌 I completely connect with this. What is the point of being created as humans if we remove all our humanity while we’re alive? Mother Earth is my greatest teacher, and I aim to ground myself to a more relationally spiritual way of existing. I also think the “patriarchal spiritual” mindset can sometimes excuse morally reprehensible behavior. Thank you, I’m going to put this book on my reading list!
Yes Geoff for me I call my experience a widening...not up but out to all around me with a peace which honestly feels like on hindsight, was beaten out of me....you gotta laugh 😆