Dr. Frank Turek had an entertaining time answering questions from Nick and Nick did not even attend Frank's lecture 🙃. #FrankTurek #Christianity #NewTestament
God resists those that are prideful When I was an atheist I was just like this kid Sheesh I really was a fool. So blessed the Heavenly Father pulled me out of that crap.
I have the same testimony, and I could absolutely laugh when I think how surreal it is to be on the other side of this argument. Thankful for His grace every day!
I was on your side for almost 30 years. Then I really read the book. I hate to tell you this, but there's no all-loving, all powerful, or all-knowing god described on the Bible. Instead, you have a god that endorses slavery, rape, sexism, discrimination based on how someone was born, animal sacrifice to satiate his blood lust, and intentionally murders innocent children and babies for no good reason. Then, even though he supposedly knows everything and can do anything, decides he needs to sacrifice himself to himself so people can get away with breaking all of his commands and laws as long as they simply believe he exists. He apparently rewards blind belief in a book that has been shown to be false by archeology, zoology, biology, geology, paleontology, astronomy, physics, linguistics, philology, dendrochronology, bacteriology, entomology, etc. over treating others well. The Bible fully admits that He ignored almost everyone in the world except his chosen people for thousands of years. Does that seem like a very just being that wants equality? That alone should tell you it's all crap made up by simply one set of people. If you really examine the book and look at the information scientists have discovered from the writings and archeological finds, it becomes clear that the Israelites were just an offshoot of the Canaanites. All of the "false gods" were canaanite gods. Even the book used the same name for god as a canaanite god. There are many reasons why so many biblical scholars have concluded they were just canaanites. It also explains why there are still some references to God talking as if there are more than one deity present at times like in some passages in Genesis. Honestly, I get the reason you all want to believe in something. Never dying sounds pretty cool. But do you really want to believe it's the biblical god? Do you really not have a problem with killing the innocent, slavery, sexism, genocide, etc.? Do you honestly find those things to be moral? Do you honestly think it makes any sense for murderers and rapists to go to heaven as long as they believe, but people who have absolutely zero reason to believe because they were already indoctrinated into another religion or never even heard of Christ are going to hell for eternity even if they're truly good people? What about those of us that still live good lives, but don't ignore all the things that shoe it to be nonsense? I should spend eternity in hell for simply being unable to believe something that I know can't be true is true?
@@kingwolf4444 morality :) even Darwin couldn't explain it. Historical records by Tacitus, Josephus. Artifacts that prove the old testament. You have to find the truth for yourself, you have to seek God yourself. I've looked at all of it, I was christian, fell away from christ, and came back again. I'm a bible believer now. Bless you, have a good day
"I'm going to ask a question, but I dont want the answer. In fact, every time you attempt to answer the question, I'm going to cut you off." Hmmm. Must be afraid of the answer.
@MMA TRAINER allah was a moon god. And then Muhammed convinced some arabs he made everything. I do believe muhammad was visited by an angel, just not the one he thought it was. The angel of light came to him...
@@nathan1sixteen I'm not so sure he earned his right to debate a point(s) he wasnt there to hear in context, at the expense of others waiting in line. "I have no idea what you said or the context you said it, but I want to disagree with you." Not so sure Frank should entertain that because it cheapens everything he did up to that.
@@pescatoralpursuit1726 while I see your point, you also have to realize that Frank's entire goal is to prove to people the validity of the Bible, and you can't do that by choosing to not answer their questions, regardless of how redundant they may be
@@nathan1sixteen My point is, after giving a lecture borne out of your faith, and the years of studying and education which produced your phd, to then engage someone on the merits of that lecture, who gave not so much effort as to have sat and listened and cognated for a few minutes before bringing a challenge, is almost a tantamount admission that there is no value listening to it in the first place. Turek sold himself cheap.
Lol, I find it funny how it's almost a badge of honor for athiests to be able to paint themself into believing nothing to avoid having to defend something. My favorite: I think it's entirely possible that God doesnt exist and it's more likely that the universe just happened. That's quite the claim, and they also dont get that the exact opposite view is most Christian's view. We think it's more likely than not that God created the universe. Both claims are massive in thier implications and yet athiests hold steadfast to the delusion that they dont beleive in anything and are just unconvinced of gods existence.
@@scottwall8419 God is inevitable, there is no version of existence that can be described without God. As Frank defined it, God is beyond the universe. The Atheist first has to say "there is nothing beyond the universe" and then they have to say "the singularity before the Big Bang isn't beyond the universe." These kooks believe in simulations and multi-verses and yet God is off-limits? The only way they can deny the existence of God is to misdefine him as, like Turek noted, "a finite being constrained by time, space, and matter."
"Frank seemed like he was letting this guy just continue to bash his head against the wall." I think anyone trying to point out ANY sort of flaw in Franks thinking is bashing their head against a wall.
"3. stop lying to himself about seeking the truth, he just wanted to convince others on his view." I think most people are like that. Certainly Frank is. But then that is how he makes all his money.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. Proverbs 26:4-5
@@Kevin-nr9hp thanks for the reply. I was merely pointing out the fact that the young man raised questions that Frank turek ducked dodged and avoided rather than answer. Frank makes CLAIMS that cannot be backed up with evidence. To some that makes him appear foolish 👍
Can’t believe he thought that Frank wouldn’t have read Dawkins’ book. But then, he’d never read any of Frank’s books, so he was extraordinarily unprepared for everything that unfolded in that video! A bit embarrassing really…..🤭
Omg (pardon the pun)! Why can’t you religious people grasp this concept. You assert that there is a god or Bigfoot or the Easter Bunny or whatever.... We (atheists, abigfootists, aeasterbunnyists) say “we don’t believe you. THATS IT! FULL STOP. Simple. I can’t imagine anything more conceptually simple wth? Btw I respect you all. I get it. I was a deeply devout and zealous Christian for 30 years. I was on fire for the Lord and anointed with the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues, witnessed and performed what I perceived to be miracles, and was in the Christian music industry for over 15 years ....I get it. So I don’t judge you or look down on any of you. However, this is incredibly frustrating. You may say that some atheists claim there is no god. Ok, fine. Some Christians do not accept the resurrection of Christ or his alleged divinity but in general we rightfully assume as much. Please, Christians, please default to assuming that any given atheist is taking a stance on non-belief; not one of an inverse stance of the religious...ie; “something exists.” Again, we say “we don’t believe you.” NOT: we believe or claim the opposite of what you claim.
I wonder if Frank has debated Richy before. It would have been great if he had said. Yeah Richard, yeah I kicked his butt in a formal debate a couple months ago. :)
NaVi ' alright now here's a question for you. According to the gospels banned at The council of Nicea, the "one true Christian God" has two children - Christ and his sister Sophia, *ACCIDENTAL MOTHER* of the Jewish god Yahweh. But wait a minute - "canon" texts claim Jesus is the son of Yahweh, god of the Jews as foretold in the Old Testament. NaVi, how could Jesus be the son of his own nephew?
@@sbentsen2714 He presented an alternative view. I think he could have given the same argument if he had've been present for the whole lecture. What's your issue with his argument?
@________________________ ________________________ I agree with a lot of what you say. I disagree with what you say about anything written in the bible lending itself to explaining the nature of the universe (or that this could potentially be divinely explained)
Real question for you both. If you don't mind. I'm recently a born again Christian, still young in my faith about 8 months now and before I was Agnostic. I never went all out like this kid, I thought there was a higher power but that we'd never know for sure. With that context how you guys get to the point of praying like that for this kid? I've read the new testament so far and I know you are absolutely right and I'm wrong on this but I'm trying to get more mature in my faith. I still get to the point where I get angry at people like this kid and if I was Frank I'd punch him in the face and say well without God there is no moral standard so what I did isn't wrong.
@@BenDover91187 Hey Mr. Dover, thanks for the reply, it was nice to re-watch the video again after 3 years! Your question: "how you guys get to the point of praying like that for this kid?" The answer: As believers we are called to be like Christ (1 John 2:6, Galatians 2: 20). Jesus died for His enemies (Romans 5: 10), the Bible says... “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven... -Matthew 5: 43-45 God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Romans 5: 8 The only way, that you or I are going to love our enemies and pray for them, is when our hearts and minds conform to the will of God. The Bible says we have not because we ask not (James 4: 2-3). If you desire to have a heart like Jesus Christ, then ask our Father in heaven. That is the truth, I don't know how or when or if He will give you what you ask for, but it is good to ask God to make us more like His Son. We are also called to love one another, I'll pray for your heart to be more like Christ, I appreciate any prayers also. God bless you, brother.
@Adam Sanchez Brother Adam, thank you for your response and your prayers. I will pray to have a heart like our lord. I'm still too much like the "sons of thunder" which is why I can relate to James and John. I know I still have a lot of maturing to do in my faith and it's refreshing to have brothers and sisters in the faith to help me grow so thank you so much!
@@BenDover91187 Hey Ben, that's great to hear. Growing closer to the Lord is the most important thing anyone can do. It takes effort on our part to faithfully study the Bible, and also be aware of our own desire to sin, weather that be anger, lust, pride, laziness, ect... These are sins that are common to all people. We should all be like Job and shun evil (Job 1:1). The Bible says our battle is not of flesh and blood but but against the dark forces of evil, in the spiritual realms (Ephesians 6:12). When we are aware of that, we can ask God to help us to shun evil and not sin against Him. The best way to do that is to read the Bible faithfully. I have hidden Your Word in my heart that I might not sin against You. -Psalm 119:11 Take care brother!
@@mynameisnobody3931 Turek: will you read my book i'll give you? Nick: Sure, if you'll read mine. Turek: which book? Nick: Dawkins, "blah-blah-blah"; Turek: I've read that book. Nick: Well then....hems n haws.... Nicks not there to "learn anything." Nick has an agenda.
I love the book of Proverbs. Another proverb that fits that kid perfectly is Proverbs 18:2 - "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion"."
The atheist kept repeating how he didn't show up for the lecture like he was proud of not hearing the evidence. It's one thing to be closed minded, and another to be so haughty about it.
@@jpatherton2415 not much useful information to be learned from Frank, he doesnt even accept evolution... he may as well think the earth is flat, i bet he's an anti vaxxer as well...
@@badideass I think the earth *was* once flat - back when a critical mass believed it to be true. Maybe reality comes into being and adjusts according to what a majority believe to be true.
Ganta S you might be surprised to learn that statistically speaking religiosity is found more oftenin the ranks of highly trained scientists than in the general population. It does seem that the more one looks into the fabric of the universe through the scientific method, the greater their belief in a divine creator.
Boldness? It's called showboating and pride, and no, God has NO room for that. We must kill off our humanly pride in order to serve the Lord. That fellow was just wanting to pop in, show off, and "wow" everyone with his intellectualism. He failed miserably.
Right, sir! I could see that too. IF God illuminates this kid's eyes that He truly see, this could be a bold preacher and evangelist. No one is beyond God's grasp amd grace!!
He wasn't seeking truth or answers. He just wanted to be argumentative and promote his agenda. That is the dishonesty of atheism. They are very close-minded at the same time calling other ppl closed-minded. They fail to see their own hypocrisy.
Keon Aureii not sure I approve of your wording but the idea is that Adam and Eve sinned and brought sin into the world and we suffer from the consequences. It's not that we are being punished. Rather, those two messed up and the effects have been felt since then.
Keon Aureii not sure I approve of your wording but the idea is that Adam and Eve sinned and brought sin into the world and we suffer from the consequences. It's not that we are being punished. Rather, those two messed up and the effects have been felt since then.
“Evidence” This guy has the most lame “rebuttals” and reasons based on the Bible because that is his cornerstone. Why would his presence matter? He just repeats himself every five seconds anyway
Yet again I’m in awe, not so much by how well of an answer Turek gave, but in awe of his patience! May God continue to use him in great and mighty ways!
It's a common thread among "instigator" types. It's basically "I have nothing of spiritual value, let me try and destroy whatever it is you hold of some value, so in the end, we are both left with no soul" The whole "game" is just a series of questions that incite "skepticism". But they NEVER offer a viable alternative, and they rarely ever allow themselves to be in the spotlight of scrutiny. Deep down, these people are beyond weak. Not all Atheists mind you, some of very charming and kind Men & Women....but these "bottom feeder, still in college, coexist bumper sticker" types ya gotta watch out for lol
And aren't You criticizing and condeming religious people now? You can make exactly the same objections one way or another, but it still doesn't prove or disprove God. Just like his paradox theory. He hasn't realise he is in the paradiox himself, as he refused to read the book of Frank Turek and see the arguemts from his perspective. If christians refused to read or hear the arguments of respected scientists such as Steven Hopkings, what would You think of them? Don't You think it would be narrow minded. So if somebody wants to really answer the question whether there is or is no God. You have to put all the emotions and hurt feelings aside and be open minded enough to actually look and exam the evidence
@@deangoff9596 here is one of the definitions of a paradox "a situation, person, or thing that combines contradictory features or qualities." So in this case a table of people each representing their own religion while each thinking their religion is correct is a paradox because they can't all be right which means most are wrong if not all making them combine their justification with self contradicting statements creating a paradox. Not every paradox is an infinitely recurring problem that is contracting its self. You may want someone to help remove your extra chromosomes
Nick so in other words, every aspect of life and thought is a paradox, which would make your point moot. I take it that you are the person who was rude enough to miss the entire lecture but then come in like a dumbass and assume you know more than the person who gave the lecture? That is truly paradoxical. Just because 10 people have a different perspective on something does not make it a paradox, it’s called life. Which if you are the person seen in the video, once mommy and daddy and the Federal Government stop supporting your narcissistic goal of mirroring whatever might be vomited out out the mouths of an endless cycle of professors, you might find out what life truly is. People are allowed to have different opinions and tell each other they are wrong and there is nothing paradoxical about it in the real world.
ahhh, to be 25 again and know everything... Little do these poor kids know that it's science that's actually providing some of the most extraordinary evidence that the Bible is correct.
Shalom, YHWH has great sense of Humor. We arrive as Infants with all of the Knowledge to answer any question; but no communication skills. This is proven when Infants get frustrated trying to tell us things. We arrive at Teenager remembering we used to have all that Knowledge and really no communication skills still. Why they walk off frustrated. (YHWH just use Strongs see "The LORD" verses, and will see that the Hebrew 4 letters YHWH ... Gods Name).
When an atheist starts in with me, I simply remind them if they are right, then they are nothing but matter that doesn't matter and therefore neither does the noise being emitted by their random chemical reactions. After their initial dumbfounded reaction is set upon their face, I tell them that they're irrelevant according to their own world view and I don't have time for their meaningless fizzing and popping.
Piggers71 so true- I quite like what you said. One could perhaps take it further and even ask them why they are bothering to try to prove theists wrong. After all, life has no purpose and we are here by accident.
+ Piggers71 Why does someone not believing in god mean their life has no purpose? Why does the fact that life is matter and energy make what a person says random or meaningless?
@07:20 “..just like I can’t be absolutely certain god DOES exist.” Wow. Thank you. That’s the most honest thing Frank Turek has ever said publicly. Bravo.
Woojong with the Word Hindus, budhists, Jews etc... could be on truth using this criterion. It's not enough is it? This necessarily leads to circular reasoning. Muslims have the Qur'an which is a linguistical as well as a mathematical masterpiece. To me this book is the definite proof of God's manifestation to humankind because it is impossible to replicate. It truly is a miracle. The Bible is full of errors and doesn't present the Christian dogma the way Christians understand it.
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+az z _Woojong with the Word_ _Hindus, budhists, Jews etc... could be on truth using this criterion._ False comparison, apples and oranges and based on the unintellectual, simplistic claim that there are no significant difference between those religions and Christianity's claims are not unique, when there are. Not even Mohammed made the claims Jesus Christ did, but rather his claims are more of the run-o-the mill religious claims. Be a good person, follow what I teach, and you will go to paradise. They all say that, except for Christianity. _It's not enough is it? This necessarily leads to circular reasoning._ Saying something happened in history is circular reasoning? I think it's more like you don't know what circular reasoning is. _Muslims have the Qur'an which is a linguistical as well as a mathematical masterpiece._ Says whom? Mohammed? _To me this book is the definite proof of God's manifestation to humankind because it is impossible to replicate. It truly is a miracle._ Because Mohammed said so, the one, the single one who wrote it right? Isn't that a bit self serving? Isn't it convenient that the book Mohammed said is a miracle is the same book that he wrote, which enabled him to be head of his own religion? Wow, can you get any more motivation to lie about yourself than that? _The Bible is full of errors and doesn't present the Christian dogma the way Christians understand it._ Says whom? Mohammed, again? See, everything about Islam hangs on one man's word, while the Bible has five corroborating accounts in the New Testament alone, AND this is by people who were contemporaries of Christ, were eyewitnesses. But the Qur'an is written more than 600 years after Christ. So Mohammed has ZERO standing to claim that the historical account of THOSE WHO WERE THERE, are wrong, were in error, whatever. ZERO. So, your claiming that the Bible is full of errors is an error and doesn't present the true Christianity and has ZERO merit.
Santiago Rangel Does God get tired? Yes or no? The Bible says He does. That clearly is an error. Can prophets be incestuous drunkards? The Bible says yes. Can prophets be jealous of other people's wives. Again, the Bible says yes. The Qur'an cleanses all this mess.
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+az z _Does God get tired? Yes or no?_ _The Bible says He does. That clearly is an error._ No, that's your error that God gets tired. God doesn't get tired. _Can prophets be incestuous drunkards? The Bible says yes._ _Can prophets be jealous of other people's wives. Again, the Bible says yes._ So what? Where does the Bible say prophets are perfect, sinless people. But it's ok if Mohhmed was all that and worse, slaughtering people because they didn't comply with his made up religion, right? _The Qur'an cleanses all this mess._ You man like Mohammed did and the likes of ISIS, Hamas, etc. are doing, lying and slaughtering innocent people. That's what most tyrants say. Oppress the people with a theft of all of their freedoms, which is what Islam does, and then there will be no messes. You know, freedom, which you and the followers of your cult and your ilk hate, is messy.
@Zain844 ok, but it's totally meaningless knowledge about what, angels?! I imagine some dude dressed in dress sitting and making up stuff about what heaven looks like, calling this process "scientific research" and taking money for this "research". Theology is not a science, it's based on some fairytales, which are all copied from old religions.
And what scholars? I presume you mean people who believe in supernatural and are part of Vatican money-making machine? Those aren't scholars. And theology is not a science, science is based on fact and observation, while religion is based on belief, there is no evidence.
That wasn't his point, his was saying that if only one belief can be right, and everyone in a room holds a different belief whilst equally believing that their belief is the right one, then by having one be wrong (to which one of the believers are shocked as their faith was unwavering) the others are likely to be wrong aswell since they all share the same quality of being believed with certainty. It's like having someone say "I flipped a coin, did I get heads or tails", one person says heads, the other says tails, then the first person says "actually I got a 4 on the dice I rolled", the initial claim has no reason to believed once evidence against the first choice (heads) has been provided, yet for some reason people still hold steadfast in their belief that "it must have been tails!"
He just phrased it badly, ignore the paradox part all together that's seems just to be a lack of knowledge but he wasn't excluding himself from the analogy because he believed he wasn't wrong he was excluding himself on terms that atheism isn't a belief rather a lack thereof.
@@IvanIvanov-vy7pt And in the lotus sutra, the blue cliff records, the doctrine of the mean etc etc. The bible does seem to borrow from a lot of other earlier sources.
The kid intentionally did not want to hear what the speaker has to say that is why he missed it. The bias is overflowing. He even refused to receive the book. He loves his lifestyle and he closes his ears to anything that threatens it
Bless u doc for showing patience. U got the Holy Spirit power!🙌 It's taken me a while to give a thumbs up for every comment here! Deary me. And in their 'so-called' wisdom, they became as fools. Let's pray he see's the light. Time's a ticking!
Be Ye HOLY well it’s more of trying to call out the hypocrisy, entitlement, and audacity of people that scoff at and demean people that do not believe in your deity. Religion is a form of control and the source of the majority of the worst atrocities in history and continues today. Yet every time something bad happens “it’s those damn atheists and their unwillingness to do as we do!” That’s at fault
Acts 2:38 Outreach so you can understand when people challenge statements like “the fool said in his heart, there is no god” right? Can you also see how, despite appealing to the supposition that your god said it, it can be seen as incredibly arrogant and deserving of a response yes?
I like how he bases his argument around the word "paradox" while he himself doesn't know what a paradox is and Frank fully capitalizes on it. God bless Frank.
This reminds me of high school, when there was this one kid that always came in late because he was hanging out with his friends before class. This guy would ask questions that we already discussed and became frustrated because he didn’t fully understand everything and blamed it on the teacher. He wanted to learn, but wanted to do his own things first. I guess he just wanted himself to be the priority in the time being and not his well being for the future.
Christians by logic can be swayed by the next best logical belief. Christians should be Christian by heart. Dr Turek is fantastic as usual in his arguments! Thank you for the videos!
I hear his argument and I can’t help from thinking he has issues with his father. I pray that he opens his eyes, humbles himself and sees the beginning true knowledge.
He jumped right on the whole what people want to believe concept, and immediately my first thought was how much easier life would be if I didn't believe. I could be wrong but if I could do things my way without conscience, I bet life would be much more carefree.
As Christians we should thank God everyday for our faith in Christ because it is a gift we didn't get it from ourselves. God takes the vale from people's eyes to see and changes the hearts of man. Atheist will never and can never think spiritually, only worldly. They can not comprehend it.
Like so many, this character is so certain that he's figured out a reason not to believe in God that he is unwilling to listen when someone gives him a reason to believe.
He wasn't looking for a reason to start believing in your God. He wanted to know what makes YOU BELIEVE that your God is more real and true than other people who also vehemently believe in their God the same way.
TheCosmicWarrior Hahaha, ya because if he follows the religious and believes in burning bushes, pigs that launch thermselves into a river bc they are possessed, zombies unearthing themselves and strolling into town, yep thats the extent of intelligence required to believe in religion, the level of intelliegence most kids have in kindergarten lol. But being a world renown scientist, apparently is a little stupid hahaha ! Have you learnt to tie your shoe laces yet or is your preoccupation with fairy tales inhibiting your learning ? Bless😉
It was actually Frank himself that said it best... people aren't after truth, but rather happiness. And when they find that fleeting happiness, they shape their truth to fit. Jeremiah 29:13
Let's stop this. Whether you believe the biblical god exists or not is irrelevant for you here on Earth. Religious people will tell you the bible god doesn't intervene or protect innocent babies from being starved, molested or killed because it's all on us to figure it out and make the world better for each other. So with that said, the biblical god existing is effectively irrelevant. Now maybe if "he" had to live as a human with us until the world becomes "a better place" "he'd" be more inclined to intervene and help. But right now he's just a guy in the sky judging, demanding worship and watching for the "big day" for thousands of years now according to religious people's beliefs. So whether atheist, religious or other, let's get to work. If "he" doesn't intervene for kids being raped and killed, "he's" not going to help you get a job at an office 🙄
@@conordelaney76 .. John 14:6.. I am the way the Truth and the life no one can come to the Father except through me. Ask him Conor and he will reveal himself to you. Luke 11:9 Ask and it will be given to you seek and you will find knock and the door will be opened to you.
@@conordelaney76 .. There are Many belief systems out there , Islam, Budda, Scientology, etc, Atheism, Satanism and then there is the Truth.. Your a big boy and your going to have to figure that out yourself, If you truly want to know the truth come to Jesus with an open heart and he will reveal himself to you.
@@mico6691 Atheism isn't a belief system. It's a non-belief in the supernatural. Why would I accept Jesus Christ into my heart? You're effectively saying to believe in something on nothing but faith (which is something without evidence). You too are a big boy. You should get real and enjoy your life without living in hope of eternally worshipping someone, while believing everyone else burns in hell for all of eternity if they don't believe. You have as much chance of being born in Christian society as in Muslim society. Your religion is based on geographical circumstance of your birth. That's before we even get into morality and the fact that we are species incredibly limited by our cognitive capabilities. Saying you know that Jesus is the truth is arrogant. I don't know, which gives me the opportunity to perhaps understand a little bit better.
Jesus. I am a sinner. I have sinned my whole life and will continue to sin until my last days on this earth. Jesus, forgive me of all my sins. Even the ones I have not committed yet. I believe in you Jesus. With all my heart and soul. I believe that you died for me and my sins. I believe you rose from the dead. I believe in you Jesus.
Kaptin Fancy Which Jesus are you believing in? The Jesus Christ of the Bible comes to take away your sins, so that you go and sin no more. If you are still living sin, you have not truly believed in Jesus to begin with. Jesus didn’t die so that you can sin - He died to take your sins away, so that you can live right before God. 1 John 3:5-8 King James Version (KJV) 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Do your very best..if you find that you have sinned, repent. It is also good practice to ask for forgiveness of unknowingly sinning.. God looks at the heart. Have Faith that God can help you reduce your desire to do sinful things. Allow Him to work in you, because we can't fight that fight without Him.
@@charlitoadams777 Except the dead sea scrolls, the textus receptus, witness accounts of his death, burial and ressurection and all the literature surrounding Jesus over the last 2000+ years in various translations through different countries of the world. Do you believe Thomas Jefferson, Plato, Aristotle or George Washington existed if you weren't alive during their time in history?
It was a good point they discussed towards the end, about not basing a belief on a desire to believe. I’m agnostic, and I want to believe in God; but I’m trying to not let that impact my search for truth and decision-making
The student didn't want Richard Dawkins to be "sitting at the metaphorical table." The student only wanted religious people to be at his metaphorical table. What is the point of that table? To make a truth claim. The claim that *God doesn't exist* is a truth claim. Richard Dawkins would have to be sitting at that student's metaphorical table. >>The student then started saying, all religious people have "similar evidence" for their claims. They don't. The religions of the world vary greatly on the major points of their respective religions. What Frank kept wanting to remind the student was what *evidence* in our universe supports Christianity - which the student *missed* the earlier lectures that would have provided the evidence for the truth claim Mr. Turek was making. The same truth claim all Christians make. Basically the student was asking a question Frank already answered 70 minutes ago but the student didn't make himself available for the lectures in the first place. Lastly, the Bible tells us *not* to *only* cite the Bible as the basis for our truth claim. I am a Christian. The Bible tells us share your testimony. How you became saved. Making Christianity unique. Not only does natural evidence support the existence of the God of the Bible which Frank is an expert in teaching on - but our testimonies convict people's hearts. People are compelled to consider the God of the Bible's existence when a Christian shares their testimony.
Trapdoor Majesty- I'm not aware of the scripture that tells us to share how we came to the knowledge of God. Can you please quote scripture when you mention it rather than just hoping people will know it or even believe it's there? I'm confused about the scripture you said is in the Bible. Where can I find it?
It gets really hard to listen to a guy like Nick. He's very arrogant and assumes a great deal, yet believes he's the next great intellectual and that he's actually contributing something to the discourse. It's got to be the age. I have to keep telling myself that he's the mission field. Sigh.
My colleagues were very smart but I don't know if they were arrogant or smart. But for some reason, I believe my colleagues were wrong because they did not have the peace of Jesus Christ.
God resists those that are prideful
When I was an atheist I was just like this kid
Sheesh I really was a fool. So blessed the Heavenly Father pulled me out of that crap.
I have the same testimony, and I could absolutely laugh when I think how surreal it is to be on the other side of this argument. Thankful for His grace every day!
Bless you Nick ! Maybe one day this kid will wake up and turn to God it looks like he just doesn’t want to believe it !!!
Glad to hear this brotha! Stay blessed ✊
I was on your side for almost 30 years.
Then I really read the book. I hate to tell you this, but there's no all-loving, all powerful, or all-knowing god described on the Bible.
Instead, you have a god that endorses slavery, rape, sexism, discrimination based on how someone was born, animal sacrifice to satiate his blood lust, and intentionally murders innocent children and babies for no good reason.
Then, even though he supposedly knows everything and can do anything, decides he needs to sacrifice himself to himself so people can get away with breaking all of his commands and laws as long as they simply believe he exists.
He apparently rewards blind belief in a book that has been shown to be false by archeology, zoology, biology, geology, paleontology, astronomy, physics, linguistics, philology, dendrochronology, bacteriology, entomology, etc. over treating others well.
The Bible fully admits that He ignored almost everyone in the world except his chosen people for thousands of years. Does that seem like a very just being that wants equality? That alone should tell you it's all crap made up by simply one set of people.
If you really examine the book and look at the information scientists have discovered from the writings and archeological finds, it becomes clear that the Israelites were just an offshoot of the Canaanites. All of the "false gods" were canaanite gods. Even the book used the same name for god as a canaanite god. There are many reasons why so many biblical scholars have concluded they were just canaanites. It also explains why there are still some references to God talking as if there are more than one deity present at times like in some passages in Genesis.
Honestly, I get the reason you all want to believe in something. Never dying sounds pretty cool. But do you really want to believe it's the biblical god? Do you really not have a problem with killing the innocent, slavery, sexism, genocide, etc.? Do you honestly find those things to be moral?
Do you honestly think it makes any sense for murderers and rapists to go to heaven as long as they believe, but people who have absolutely zero reason to believe because they were already indoctrinated into another religion or never even heard of Christ are going to hell for eternity even if they're truly good people?
What about those of us that still live good lives, but don't ignore all the things that shoe it to be nonsense? I should spend eternity in hell for simply being unable to believe something that I know can't be true is true?
me too bud, me too....I'm ashamed of the way I used to treat all religious people.
The kid doesn't want to know the Truth, He just want to win the argument,...
ignorance is bliss
MN spot on.
lol he is a physical manifestation of every reddit post/ argument ever
The kid actually owned this turek guy. Disneyland.
@@rockymountainhigh9379 Yes you are indeed in the Disneyland.
Nick is a perfect example of someone who has come to rock-solid conclusions based on zero information. Praying for him.
Who are you praying to?
Conor Delaney god
I James i bet nick prays to his beard.
Where’s your evidence god exist besides the Bible?
@@kingwolf4444 morality :) even Darwin couldn't explain it. Historical records by Tacitus, Josephus. Artifacts that prove the old testament. You have to find the truth for yourself, you have to seek God yourself. I've looked at all of it, I was christian, fell away from christ, and came back again. I'm a bible believer now. Bless you, have a good day
"I'm going to ask a question, but I dont want the answer. In fact, every time you attempt to answer the question, I'm going to cut you off." Hmmm. Must be afraid of the answer.
😂😂😂
Yeah the whole discussion was useless and the question presented was vapid. The kid spent the entire time re explaining his possession
😂😂😂
@MMA TRAINER allah was a moon god. And then Muhammed convinced some arabs he made everything. I do believe muhammad was visited by an angel, just not the one he thought it was. The angel of light came to him...
@@peterturner345 I am particularly fond of your misspelling of "position" as "possession".
Tries to hold an intellectual position about a paradox.
Doesn’t even know the definition of paradox.
Right! 🤦🏾♂️😂🤣
James Menhenitt
Atheists favorite tool is to change the definitions of words
Whats a Dox and why are there always 2 of them?
😂😂😂
Exactly my thought
“I’ve already read it” is such a power move lol I love it
And with such a popular book it was slightly arrogant to assume he hadn’t read it.
@@JasmineJeane So true. The kid acted as if Dr. Turek had probably never heard of it.
@@sayloltothetroll6806 Yeah and probably thought it would blow his mind and shatter his world view if he read it xD
More importantly... Frank and literally DEBATED Hichens twice... twice! How is this kid unaware of that if he's there to see him???
@@Jaryism probably pride.
Kid misses the entirety of the lecture, then comes and asks a question that would have been 100% explained to him if he had sat through the lecture
Should Frank have entertained him then?
@@pescatoralpursuit1726 to an extent, sure, but he can't just go and give his entire lecture over again for this kid in the Q&A.
@@nathan1sixteen I'm not so sure he earned his right to debate a point(s) he wasnt there to hear in context, at the expense of others waiting in line.
"I have no idea what you said or the context you said it, but I want to disagree with you."
Not so sure Frank should entertain that because it cheapens everything he did up to that.
@@pescatoralpursuit1726 while I see your point, you also have to realize that Frank's entire goal is to prove to people the validity of the Bible, and you can't do that by choosing to not answer their questions, regardless of how redundant they may be
@@nathan1sixteen My point is, after giving a lecture borne out of your faith, and the years of studying and education which produced your phd, to then engage someone on the merits of that lecture, who gave not so much effort as to have sat and listened and cognated for a few minutes before bringing a challenge, is almost a tantamount admission that there is no value listening to it in the first place. Turek sold himself cheap.
“I read a book from an atheist so now I’m smart because this one tells me all the answers”
Lol, I find it funny how it's almost a badge of honor for athiests to be able to paint themself into believing nothing to avoid having to defend something.
My favorite: I think it's entirely possible that God doesnt exist and it's more likely that the universe just happened.
That's quite the claim, and they also dont get that the exact opposite view is most Christian's view. We think it's more likely than not that God created the universe. Both claims are massive in thier implications and yet athiests hold steadfast to the delusion that they dont beleive in anything and are just unconvinced of gods existence.
Good!
@@scottwall8419 God is inevitable, there is no version of existence that can be described without God. As Frank defined it, God is beyond the universe.
The Atheist first has to say "there is nothing beyond the universe" and then they have to say "the singularity before the Big Bang isn't beyond the universe." These kooks believe in simulations and multi-verses and yet God is off-limits?
The only way they can deny the existence of God is to misdefine him as, like Turek noted, "a finite being constrained by time, space, and matter."
@@scottwall8419 Thank you!!
Nick needs to do two things..
1. let other people respond.
2. learn the meaning of a paradox.
Dont Worry he was. i was there lol
"Frank seemed like he was letting this guy just continue to bash his head against the wall."
I think anyone trying to point out ANY sort of flaw in Franks thinking is bashing their head against a wall.
3. stop lying to himself about seeking the truth, he just wanted to convince others on his view.
"3. stop lying to himself about seeking the truth, he just wanted to convince others on his view."
I think most people are like that. Certainly Frank is. But then that is how he makes all his money.
777_777 this video is great comedy. Drinking a mug of coffee while giggling at Nick.
“It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it,”
Mark Twain
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
Proverbs 26:4-5
@@thebelievertheone1625 Wise men talk when they have something to say, fools talk when they have to say something.
Frank Turek should read and learn from that quote.
Marv McGee that sounds biased 🙂
@@Kevin-nr9hp thanks for the reply. I was merely pointing out the fact that the young man raised questions that Frank turek ducked dodged and avoided rather than answer.
Frank makes CLAIMS that cannot be backed up with evidence. To some that makes him appear foolish 👍
“I already read it” caught him off guard😂
Can’t believe he thought that Frank wouldn’t have read Dawkins’ book.
But then, he’d never read any of Frank’s books, so he was extraordinarily unprepared for everything that unfolded in that video! A bit embarrassing really…..🤭
@@madwhitehare3635 recommending The God Delusion to a Christian apologist is like recommending The Tempest to a playwright
He really can't grasp that as an atheist he is sitting at that metaphorical table too.
I was thinking that as well lol
I guess this is why atheist redefined atheism to mere "lack of belief"
I think he grasps that perfectly.
@@SuperEdge67 Why do you think that? He never mentions himself in his metaphor
Omg (pardon the pun)!
Why can’t you religious people grasp this concept.
You assert that there is a god or Bigfoot or the Easter Bunny or whatever....
We (atheists, abigfootists, aeasterbunnyists) say “we don’t believe you.
THATS IT! FULL STOP.
Simple. I can’t imagine anything more conceptually simple wth?
Btw I respect you all. I get it. I was a deeply devout and zealous Christian for 30 years. I was on fire for the Lord and anointed with the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues, witnessed and performed what I perceived to be miracles, and was in the Christian music industry for over 15 years ....I get it. So I don’t judge you or look down on any of you.
However, this is incredibly frustrating.
You may say that some atheists claim there is no god. Ok, fine. Some Christians do not accept the resurrection of Christ or his alleged divinity but in general we rightfully assume as much.
Please, Christians, please default to assuming that any given atheist is taking a stance on non-belief; not one of an inverse stance of the religious...ie; “something exists.” Again, we say “we don’t believe you.” NOT: we believe or claim the opposite of what you claim.
"The God delusion by Richard Dawkins." "I've already read it." "okay."
Lol!!
I wonder if Frank has debated Richy before. It would have been great if he had said. Yeah Richard, yeah I kicked his butt in a formal debate a couple months ago. :)
Lol
Lmaoooo
Michael de Tremaudan even if I was blind... I saw that whole thing coming.
@@bassmanjr100 i think he has.
This guy was about intellectually prepared as he was punctual
Yeehee!
It's interesting that Nick is confident that his belief is right. How does he deal with that paradox?
😂
That dude that asked the question is so not wanting to know God. I pray his eyes are opened. Amen
Which God?
@@conordelaney76 The only real one,Christian one
@@Ivann1005 How do you know?
@@conordelaney76 because of the evidence
NaVi ' alright now here's a question for you. According to the gospels banned at The council of Nicea, the "one true Christian God" has two children - Christ and his sister Sophia, *ACCIDENTAL MOTHER* of the Jewish god Yahweh. But wait a minute - "canon" texts claim Jesus is the son of Yahweh, god of the Jews as foretold in the Old Testament.
NaVi, how could Jesus be the son of his own nephew?
Nick didn't learn the definition of paradox in school
Adesoji Alu 😆😆 maybe we could offer him a good book recommendation
Also "metaphorical table", he probably meant "hypothetical"... Otherwise, what was it a metaphor of...
Bruh you dont even need school to learn the definition of paradox
lol!
For real lmao, he is seriously diluted and delusional.
I wouldn't be surprised if has teased.about this constantly.
LOL - the dude missed the lecture but gives his disagreement. How arrogant .
He didn't miss much
Geo Adventure exactly. He’s only interested in stroking his own ego
@@sbentsen2714 He presented an alternative view. I think he could have given the same argument if he had've been present for the whole lecture.
What's your issue with his argument?
@________________________ ________________________ I agree with a lot of what you say. I disagree with what you say about anything written in the bible lending itself to explaining the nature of the universe (or that this could potentially be divinely explained)
@@conordelaney76 It can.
i was waiting to hear what book this guy was gonna recommend and when he said the god delusion, i just burst out laughing
Yeah, he said it like it was the "be all end all".
Let's all pray for Nick's heart to be opened to the Lord, I would love to see such a passionate person become a Christian.
Amen to that
Real question for you both. If you don't mind.
I'm recently a born again Christian, still young in my faith about 8 months now and before I was Agnostic. I never went all out like this kid, I thought there was a higher power but that we'd never know for sure.
With that context how you guys get to the point of praying like that for this kid?
I've read the new testament so far and I know you are absolutely right and I'm wrong on this but I'm trying to get more mature in my faith. I still get to the point where I get angry at people like this kid and if I was Frank I'd punch him in the face and say well without God there is no moral standard so what I did isn't wrong.
@@BenDover91187 Hey Mr. Dover, thanks for the reply, it was nice to re-watch the video again after 3 years!
Your question: "how you guys get to the point of praying like that for this kid?"
The answer: As believers we are called to be like Christ (1 John 2:6, Galatians 2: 20).
Jesus died for His enemies (Romans 5: 10), the Bible says...
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven... -Matthew 5: 43-45
God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Romans 5: 8
The only way, that you or I are going to love our enemies and pray for them, is when our hearts and minds conform to the will of God. The Bible says we have not because we ask not (James 4: 2-3). If you desire to have a heart like Jesus Christ, then ask our Father in heaven. That is the truth, I don't know how or when or if He will give you what you ask for, but it is good to ask God to make us more like His Son.
We are also called to love one another, I'll pray for your heart to be more like Christ, I appreciate any prayers also.
God bless you, brother.
@Adam Sanchez Brother Adam, thank you for your response and your prayers.
I will pray to have a heart like our lord. I'm still too much like the "sons of thunder" which is why I can relate to James and John. I know I still have a lot of maturing to do in my faith and it's refreshing to have brothers and sisters in the faith to help me grow so thank you so much!
@@BenDover91187 Hey Ben, that's great to hear.
Growing closer to the Lord is the most important thing anyone can do.
It takes effort on our part to faithfully study the Bible, and also be aware of our own desire to sin, weather that be anger, lust, pride, laziness, ect... These are sins that are common to all people.
We should all be like Job and shun evil (Job 1:1). The Bible says our battle is not of flesh and blood but but against the dark forces of evil, in the spiritual realms (Ephesians 6:12). When we are aware of that, we can ask God to help us to shun evil and not sin against Him. The best way to do that is to read the Bible faithfully.
I have hidden Your Word in my heart
that I might not sin against You. -Psalm 119:11
Take care brother!
"I wasn't here to listen to your lecture, but you're wrong because I read Dawkins!"
-Nick, as far as I can tell
Atheists, as far as I can tell******
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@@mynameisnobody3931 Turek: will you read my book i'll give you? Nick: Sure, if you'll read mine. Turek: which book? Nick: Dawkins, "blah-blah-blah"; Turek: I've read that book. Nick: Well then....hems n haws....
Nicks not there to "learn anything." Nick has an agenda.
😂👍👍Well said
He doesn't understand what a paradox is.
Proverbs 17:28
Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; When he shuts his lips, he is considered perceptive
I love the book of Proverbs. Another proverb that fits that kid perfectly is Proverbs 18:2 -
"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion"."
When he ignored the light hearted joke about his mom, I knew he was rude
The atheist kept repeating how he didn't show up for the lecture like he was proud of not hearing the evidence. It's one thing to be closed minded, and another to be so haughty about it.
You ain't missing much going to one of his lectures.
There is no credible Evidence to support any gods.
@@badideass I think you meant that Jon ain't missing much *listening* to one of his lectures. As opposed to going to the actual live event.
@@jpatherton2415 not much useful information to be learned from Frank, he doesnt even accept evolution... he may as well think the earth is flat, i bet he's an anti vaxxer as well...
@@badideass I think the earth *was* once flat - back when a critical mass believed it to be true. Maybe reality comes into being and adjusts according to what a majority believe to be true.
@@jpatherton2415 interesting hypothesis
That was annoying. The kid missed the lecture, then believes he is the smartest in the room.
Disgusting and feeling so important.
Well, he's smarter than any creationist, that's for sure!
Ganta S you might be surprised to learn that statistically speaking religiosity is found more oftenin the ranks of highly trained scientists than in the general population. It does seem that the more one looks into the fabric of the universe through the scientific method, the greater their belief in a divine creator.
@@gantas6804 such an expected comment lol many scientist believe in God. It's your ignorance that makes you believe the two can't come together.
@@pertjacanape please provide a link or something to confirm it?
Frank was very gracious. Was there any follow-up with Nick? I like his boldness. Once he sees the light, God could use that.
Boldness? It's called showboating and pride, and no, God has NO room for that. We must kill off our humanly pride in order to serve the Lord. That fellow was just wanting to pop in, show off, and "wow" everyone with his intellectualism. He failed miserably.
Not to bold or courageous to show up AFTER the evidence lecture and high jack the mic to give a wrong definition of paradox in a metaphoric scenario😂
Right, sir! I could see that too. IF God illuminates this kid's eyes that He truly see, this could be a bold preacher and evangelist. No one is beyond God's grasp amd grace!!
“ThE GoD dElUsIoN.” The go-to book for atheist.
He wasn't seeking truth or answers. He just wanted to be argumentative and promote his agenda. That is the dishonesty of atheism. They are very close-minded at the same time calling other ppl closed-minded. They fail to see their own hypocrisy.
Romans 1:18-20
Keon Aureii That's exactly right.
Keon Aureii not sure I approve of your wording but the idea is that Adam and Eve sinned and brought sin into the world and we suffer from the consequences. It's not that we are being punished. Rather, those two messed up and the effects have been felt since then.
Keon Aureii not sure I approve of your wording but the idea is that Adam and Eve sinned and brought sin into the world and we suffer from the consequences. It's not that we are being punished. Rather, those two messed up and the effects have been felt since then.
Seeking Truth How was he being hypocritical? To me it seemed like he'd happily become a Christian if given evidence towards the existence of God.
This is my first time seeing Frank, but I'm impressed by his patience and willingness to engage.
"I've already read it"
💀
Fatality
He actually assumed Frank hadn’t read Dawkins’, “The God Delusion”? Priceless.
On second thought, I wonder if Nick has actually read it himself.
"I missed all of the evidence, but since i did - it's a paradox"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Demetrius Middleton 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂 How can someone make a judgement without all of the pieces. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Evidence” This guy has the most lame “rebuttals” and reasons based on the Bible because that is his cornerstone. Why would his presence matter? He just repeats himself every five seconds anyway
Christelle Calixte
Confirmation bias
Nick just learned the term paradox today.
If I had to eat a a grain of sugar for every time he said that word I’d be a diabetic.
Yet again I’m in awe, not so much by how well of an answer Turek gave, but in awe of his patience! May God continue to use him in great and mighty ways!
the kid seemed surprised that turek had already read dawkins. 🤣
Nick... stop, just... stop.
Legends say he went right back to the internet and hate on some more of those "ignorant christians"
@@afonsosilvestre8330 It was nice to see one of them outside.
@@afonsosilvestre8330 Bet he still trolls around his videos under some alt account.
This guy is like every atheist i ever debated online. " _I'm not here to make any claims, i'm only interested in criticizing your views_ "
+STREEEEEET
And many religious people make absurd claims based on nothing but belief, to not only criticize, but also condemn others.
It's a common thread among "instigator" types. It's basically "I have nothing of spiritual value, let me try and destroy whatever it is you hold of some value, so in the end, we are both left with no soul"
The whole "game" is just a series of questions that incite "skepticism". But they NEVER offer a viable alternative, and they rarely ever allow themselves to be in the spotlight of scrutiny. Deep down, these people are beyond weak. Not all Atheists mind you, some of very charming and kind Men & Women....but these "bottom feeder, still in college, coexist bumper sticker" types ya gotta watch out for lol
And aren't You criticizing and condeming religious people now? You can make exactly the same objections one way or another, but it still doesn't prove or disprove God. Just like his paradox theory. He hasn't realise he is in the paradiox himself, as he refused to read the book of Frank Turek and see the arguemts from his perspective. If christians refused to read or hear the arguments of respected scientists such as Steven Hopkings, what would You think of them? Don't You think it would be narrow minded. So if somebody wants to really answer the question whether there is or is no God. You have to put all the emotions and hurt feelings aside and be open minded enough to actually look and exam the evidence
łukasz łukasz
What evidence though ? do you have anything better than heresay text in a book ?
Paul Osbourne Well since you obviously don't respect the content of the Bible, what evidence would you accept?
Frank showed so much patience with this kid! God bless him!
Nick ask your question the let the man actually answer!!!!!!!
Pride. It makes you think you’re the most important person in the room, even though you are the least informed person in the room.
He probably thought all the atheist girls in attendance would swoon over his BIG BIG BIG BRAINED diatribe.
Love how paradox isn't even the right term to use.
Success Audios love how this pastor don't know anything
Sure it is, paradox doesn't always mean something that is self contradicting, try using a dictionary !
Nick you may want an interpreter to help you with your dictionary.
@@deangoff9596 here is one of the definitions of a paradox "a situation, person, or thing that combines contradictory features or qualities." So in this case a table of people each representing their own religion while each thinking their religion is correct is a paradox because they can't all be right which means most are wrong if not all making them combine their justification with self contradicting statements creating a paradox. Not every paradox is an infinitely recurring problem that is contracting its self. You may want someone to help remove your extra chromosomes
Nick so in other words, every aspect of life and thought is a paradox, which would make your point moot. I take it that you are the person who was rude enough to miss the entire lecture but then come in like a dumbass and assume you know more than the person who gave the lecture? That is truly paradoxical. Just because 10 people have a different perspective on something does not make it a paradox, it’s called life. Which if you are the person seen in the video, once mommy and daddy and the Federal Government stop supporting your narcissistic goal of mirroring whatever might be vomited out out the mouths of an endless cycle of professors, you might find out what life truly is. People are allowed to have different opinions and tell each other they are wrong and there is nothing paradoxical about it in the real world.
“You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.”
As a barber I can say the guy asking the question had really good hair, great hairline and head shape.
When Turek said, "I have already read it" I loled so hard
greg heffley I mean it was like asking a surfer if they'd ever heard of water- cmon......
ahhh, to be 25 again and know everything... Little do these poor kids know that it's science that's actually providing some of the most extraordinary evidence that the Bible is correct.
14598175 :Would you mind providing this evidence or a link to this evidence?
@@Jonas-gl9ke search it up a lot of scientists have testified they came to believe through their research. Its out there for the searching.
Evolution alone prove that the Bible is incorrect, from the very first chapter
Caleb White If evolution was in fact real, based on the the same research OP referenced to. That do be what he’s talking about.
Shalom, YHWH has great sense of Humor. We arrive as Infants with all of the Knowledge to answer any question; but no communication skills. This is proven when Infants get frustrated trying to tell us things. We arrive at Teenager remembering we used to have all that Knowledge and really no communication skills still. Why they walk off frustrated. (YHWH just use Strongs see "The LORD" verses, and will see that the Hebrew 4 letters YHWH ... Gods Name).
Dude’s just talking to hear himself 😞
AND to show off to all his trendy atheist friends. Dude thought he was so smart, he was just gonna pop in and WOW the world.
It's so funny that this guy wasn't even there during most of the talk and he still went and asked that question with so much confidence 😅
this aint . the first time he was late for school.
When an atheist starts in with me, I simply remind them if they are right, then they are nothing but matter that doesn't matter and therefore neither does the noise being emitted by their random chemical reactions. After their initial dumbfounded reaction is set upon their face, I tell them that they're irrelevant according to their own world view and I don't have time for their meaningless fizzing and popping.
Piggers71 LOL. Not exactly where Christ would want you to leave it, though.
i use similar words...they are not consistent with their belief that matter is all there is
😂😂 hilarious but at least add Jesus loves you at the end, always end with an upper
Piggers71 so true- I quite like what you said. One could perhaps take it further and even ask them why they are bothering to try to prove theists wrong. After all, life has no purpose and we are here by accident.
+ Piggers71
Why does someone not believing in god mean their life has no purpose? Why does the fact that life is matter and energy make what a person says random or meaningless?
God bless Dr. Turek for all his patience and what he goes through with these kinds of people....oh yeah...for the sake of helping them!
Wish Frank would of asked him if Christianity was true would you become a Christian
Im pretty sure Frank has already read any book the kid could recommend to him lol
I think he defines paradox as "anything I've heard, but can't understand"! So sad!
I think he meant the things are contradictory, not paradoxical.
@@aleashacasarez855 he should've asked about epistemology to come to truth
7:04 Nicks entire argument 😂
LOL 😂
@07:20 “..just like I can’t be absolutely certain god DOES exist.” Wow. Thank you. That’s the most honest thing Frank Turek has ever said publicly. Bravo.
Because Christianity has a foundation in history and is backed up by secular sources. From the outside in.
Woojong with the Word
Hindus, budhists, Jews etc... could be on truth using this criterion.
It's not enough is it? This necessarily leads to circular reasoning.
Muslims have the Qur'an which is a linguistical as well as a mathematical masterpiece. To me this book is the definite proof of God's manifestation to humankind because it is impossible to replicate. It truly is a miracle.
The Bible is full of errors and doesn't present the Christian dogma the way Christians understand it.
+az z
_Woojong with the Word_
_Hindus, budhists, Jews etc... could be on truth using this criterion._
False comparison, apples and oranges and based on the unintellectual, simplistic claim that there are no significant difference between those religions and Christianity's claims are not unique, when there are. Not even Mohammed made the claims Jesus Christ did, but rather his claims are more of the run-o-the mill religious claims. Be a good person, follow what I teach, and you will go to paradise. They all say that, except for Christianity.
_It's not enough is it? This necessarily leads to circular reasoning._
Saying something happened in history is circular reasoning? I think it's more like you don't know what circular reasoning is.
_Muslims have the Qur'an which is a linguistical as well as a mathematical masterpiece._
Says whom? Mohammed?
_To me this book is the definite proof of God's manifestation to humankind because it is impossible to replicate. It truly is a miracle._
Because Mohammed said so, the one, the single one who wrote it right? Isn't that a bit self serving? Isn't it convenient that the book Mohammed said is a miracle is the same book that he wrote, which enabled him to be head of his own religion? Wow, can you get any more motivation to lie about yourself than that?
_The Bible is full of errors and doesn't present the Christian dogma the way Christians understand it._
Says whom? Mohammed, again? See, everything about Islam hangs on one man's word, while the Bible has five corroborating accounts in the New Testament alone, AND this is by people who were contemporaries of Christ, were eyewitnesses. But the Qur'an is written more than 600 years after Christ. So Mohammed has ZERO standing to claim that the historical account of THOSE WHO WERE THERE, are wrong, were in error, whatever. ZERO. So, your claiming that the Bible is full of errors is an error and doesn't present the true Christianity and has ZERO merit.
az z surah 3:3-4 confirms the Torah and Gospels
Santiago Rangel
Does God get tired? Yes or no?
The Bible says He does. That clearly is an error.
Can prophets be incestuous drunkards? The Bible says yes.
Can prophets be jealous of other people's wives. Again, the Bible says yes.
The Qur'an cleanses all this mess.
+az z
_Does God get tired? Yes or no?_
_The Bible says He does. That clearly is an error._
No, that's your error that God gets tired. God doesn't get tired.
_Can prophets be incestuous drunkards? The Bible says yes._
_Can prophets be jealous of other people's wives. Again, the Bible says yes._
So what? Where does the Bible say prophets are perfect, sinless people. But it's ok if Mohhmed was all that and worse, slaughtering people because they didn't comply with his made up religion, right?
_The Qur'an cleanses all this mess._
You man like Mohammed did and the likes of ISIS, Hamas, etc. are doing, lying and slaughtering innocent people. That's what most tyrants say. Oppress the people with a theft of all of their freedoms, which is what Islam does, and then there will be no messes. You know, freedom, which you and the followers of your cult and your ilk hate, is messy.
I love how he felt the death blow was offering him The God Delusion hahahahahaha. Oh wow.
Yeah that was funny
@Zain844 PhD theologian? Those two words don't go in one sentence
@Zain844 ok, but it's totally meaningless knowledge about what, angels?! I imagine some dude dressed in dress sitting and making up stuff about what heaven looks like, calling this process "scientific research" and taking money for this "research". Theology is not a science, it's based on some fairytales, which are all copied from old religions.
@Zain844 why do we still have old documents that have the same stories, but from thousands of years before?
And what scholars? I presume you mean people who believe in supernatural and are part of Vatican money-making machine? Those aren't scholars. And theology is not a science, science is based on fact and observation, while religion is based on belief, there is no evidence.
So young and yet knows pretty much everything. Amazing children they are.
Nick hasn’t read the god delusion and doesn’t know what a paradox is
"Its a paradox and I'm excluded because I'm not wrong!"
- Person who doesn't know what Irony or a Paradox is.
That wasn't his point, his was saying that if only one belief can be right, and everyone in a room holds a different belief whilst equally believing that their belief is the right one, then by having one be wrong (to which one of the believers are shocked as their faith was unwavering) the others are likely to be wrong aswell since they all share the same quality of being believed with certainty. It's like having someone say "I flipped a coin, did I get heads or tails", one person says heads, the other says tails, then the first person says "actually I got a 4 on the dice I rolled", the initial claim has no reason to believed once evidence against the first choice (heads) has been provided, yet for some reason people still hold steadfast in their belief that "it must have been tails!"
He just phrased it badly, ignore the paradox part all together that's seems just to be a lack of knowledge but he wasn't excluding himself from the analogy because he believed he wasn't wrong he was excluding himself on terms that atheism isn't a belief rather a lack thereof.
Did his mother ever know the irony of calling him an S.O.B.
Oh the vanity of the atheist🤯
How frustrating, it's like talking to a brick wall.
Comment works both ways
I apologize i have to disagree with you, the brick wall actually lets you finish a sentence, for that matter an entire conversation.
Just like in Roman's 1.
@@IvanIvanov-vy7pt And in the lotus sutra, the blue cliff records, the doctrine of the mean etc etc. The bible does seem to borrow from a lot of other earlier sources.
The kid intentionally did not want to hear what the speaker has to say that is why he missed it. The bias is overflowing. He even refused to receive the book. He loves his lifestyle and he closes his ears to anything that threatens it
Bless u doc for showing patience. U got the Holy Spirit power!🙌 It's taken me a while to give a thumbs up for every comment here! Deary me. And in their 'so-called' wisdom, they became as fools. Let's pray he see's the light. Time's a ticking!
“I just got here but I’m going to talk and keep talking because I’m certain I am right that you are wrong.”
Kid likes to say “paradox” a lot. 😂
I was waiting for him to start using "juxtaposed" 100 times, out of context. lol
The fool has said in his heart there is no God...
@Wesley Hatting You are free to believe what you want. God gives you free will if you believe in him or not.
Wesley Hatting do you possess all knowledge ?
Be Ye HOLY well it’s more of trying to call out the hypocrisy, entitlement, and audacity of people that scoff at and demean people that do not believe in your deity.
Religion is a form of control and the source of the majority of the worst atrocities in history and continues today.
Yet every time something bad happens “it’s those damn atheists and their unwillingness to do as we do!” That’s at fault
@@blanco9295 I hear what your saying ..
Acts 2:38 Outreach so you can understand when people challenge statements like “the fool said in his heart, there is no god” right?
Can you also see how, despite appealing to the supposition that your god said it, it can be seen as incredibly arrogant and deserving of a response yes?
I like how he bases his argument around the word "paradox" while he himself doesn't know what a paradox is and Frank fully capitalizes on it. God bless Frank.
“There’s a guy preaching religion ? Lemme see if I can go argue with him”
This reminds me of high school, when there was this one kid that always came in late because he was hanging out with his friends before class. This guy would ask questions that we already discussed and became frustrated because he didn’t fully understand everything and blamed it on the teacher. He wanted to learn, but wanted to do his own things first. I guess he just wanted himself to be the priority in the time being and not his well being for the future.
One day he will kneel and confess Jesus Christ is Lord
ross rainey exactly..
For him I hope so :)
"Every.......
One day he will become a rabid leftist jew hating protester.
well, if what you say is true, perhaps Jesus should convince him now, not in the afterlife.
Christians by logic can be swayed by the next best logical belief. Christians should be Christian by heart. Dr Turek is fantastic as usual in his arguments! Thank you for the videos!
I hear his argument and I can’t help from thinking he has issues with his father. I pray that he opens his eyes, humbles himself and sees the beginning true knowledge.
when i decided to be an atheist worse time of my life crazy went down. thank the Lord for his mercy
So because your life was bad when you didn't believe in God, this means God must be true?
4:37 "What book would you give me?" "The God Delusion" *ALREADY READ IT*
👏🏻
"Read my book from Richard Dawkins.... Oh, I didn't know Dawkins said that."
He jumped right on the whole what people want to believe concept, and immediately my first thought was how much easier life would be if I didn't believe. I could be wrong but if I could do things my way without conscience, I bet life would be much more carefree.
As Christians we should thank God everyday for our faith in Christ because it is a gift we didn't get it from ourselves. God takes the vale from people's eyes to see and changes the hearts of man. Atheist will never and can never think spiritually, only worldly. They can not comprehend it.
"Veil", here to serve x
Jesus
Like so many, this character is so certain that he's figured out a reason not to believe in God that he is unwilling to listen when someone gives him a reason to believe.
He wasn't looking for a reason to start believing in your God. He wanted to know what makes YOU BELIEVE that your God is more real and true than other people who also vehemently believe in their God the same way.
yep and Turek tried to answer, but he wouldnt shut it!
The seed was sown and it fell on rocks, eaten by the birds and gone!
Did you believe in God when you were born or did you start believing in God after you were born?
Wonderful ministry
Bless this brother
"i've already read it"
hah! burn
hahahha...you can say that again.
he was so BIG headed! thinking he knows it all because he read a f*** book!
***** he f**ng got burnt!
xin0 I didn't see any flames ..
RIGHT IN THE FACE HAHAHA
Now he should have to read the lecturers book.
He keeps misusing the word "Paradox" ...Pretty annoying.
TheCosmicWarrior
Hahaha, ya because if he follows the religious and believes in burning bushes, pigs that launch thermselves into a river bc they are possessed, zombies unearthing themselves and strolling into town, yep thats the extent of intelligence required to believe in religion, the level of intelliegence most kids have in kindergarten lol.
But being a world renown scientist, apparently is a little stupid hahaha !
Have you learnt to tie your shoe laces yet or is your preoccupation with fairy tales inhibiting your learning ? Bless😉
Atheists say God is unobserved and unproven..... Yet the universe came from "Nothing"
TheCosmicWarrior
Oops that sounds like a desperate knee jerk reply from someone that has nothing better to offer 😉
5tonyvvvv that's not a fact, that is a hypothesized statement which is supported by observed evidence.
@Blessed: Anything he doesn't agree with is a paradox. Whew!
I think he is impressive. Someone who can stand up in front of everyone and clearly state his views in a reasonable polite way.
The simplicity of Christianity is overlooked when we put ourselves first ,we must be in the world but not of the world.
It was actually Frank himself that said it best... people aren't after truth, but rather happiness. And when they find that fleeting happiness, they shape their truth to fit.
Jeremiah 29:13
Let's stop this. Whether you believe the biblical god exists or not is irrelevant for you here on Earth. Religious people will tell you the bible god doesn't intervene or protect innocent babies from being starved, molested or killed because it's all on us to figure it out and make the world better for each other. So with that said, the biblical god existing is effectively irrelevant. Now maybe if "he" had to live as a human with us until the world becomes "a better place" "he'd" be more inclined to intervene and help. But right now he's just a guy in the sky judging, demanding worship and watching for the "big day" for thousands of years now according to religious people's beliefs. So whether atheist, religious or other, let's get to work. If "he" doesn't intervene for kids being raped and killed, "he's" not going to help you get a job at an office 🙄
Some people don't want to know the truth, they just want to be right! This young guy can't get out of his own way to see the TRUTH!
How do you know of any truth?
@@conordelaney76 .. John 14:6.. I am the way the Truth and the life no one can come to the Father except through me. Ask him Conor and he will reveal himself to you.
Luke 11:9 Ask and it will be given to you seek and you will find knock and the door will be opened to you.
@@mico6691 So would the same truth reveal itself if I was to ask for it through Islam or Hinduism?
@@conordelaney76 .. There are Many belief systems out there , Islam, Budda, Scientology, etc, Atheism, Satanism and then there is the Truth.. Your a big boy and your going to have to figure that out yourself, If you truly want to know the truth come to Jesus with an open heart and he will reveal himself to you.
@@mico6691 Atheism isn't a belief system. It's a non-belief in the supernatural.
Why would I accept Jesus Christ into my heart? You're effectively saying to believe in something on nothing but faith (which is something without evidence).
You too are a big boy. You should get real and enjoy your life without living in hope of eternally worshipping someone, while believing everyone else burns in hell for all of eternity if they don't believe.
You have as much chance of being born in Christian society as in Muslim society. Your religion is based on geographical circumstance of your birth.
That's before we even get into morality and the fact that we are species incredibly limited by our cognitive capabilities.
Saying you know that Jesus is the truth is arrogant. I don't know, which gives me the opportunity to perhaps understand a little bit better.
This was hilarious 😅 “I’ve already that book!” “Doesn’t he sit at that table as well?”
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” -Inigo Montoya
Jesus. I am a sinner. I have sinned my whole life and will continue to sin until my last days on this earth. Jesus, forgive me of all my sins. Even the ones I have not committed yet. I believe in you Jesus. With all my heart and soul. I believe that you died for me and my sins. I believe you rose from the dead. I believe in you Jesus.
Kaptin Fancy Which Jesus are you believing in? The Jesus Christ of the Bible comes to take away your sins, so that you go and sin no more. If you are still living sin, you have not truly believed in Jesus to begin with. Jesus didn’t die so that you can sin - He died to take your sins away, so that you can live right before God.
1 John 3:5-8 King James Version (KJV)
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Do your very best..if you find that you have sinned, repent. It is also good practice to ask for forgiveness of unknowingly sinning.. God looks at the heart. Have Faith that God can help you reduce your desire to do sinful things. Allow Him to work in you, because we can't fight that fight without Him.
Amen!
Nothing historical about the Jesus character.
@@charlitoadams777 Except the dead sea scrolls, the textus receptus, witness accounts of his death, burial and ressurection and all the literature surrounding Jesus over the last 2000+ years in various translations through different countries of the world. Do you believe Thomas Jefferson, Plato, Aristotle or George Washington existed if you weren't alive during their time in history?
He has contempt prior to investigation - try listening young man.
That guy is treading water and about ready to go under at anytime. He is talking so fast! LOL
He learned the word “paradox” right before the debate.
hahaha I think you are correct
Only thing i learnt during this video is that this fella has no idea what the word paradox means.
Paradox
You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
It was a good point they discussed towards the end, about not basing a belief on a desire to believe. I’m agnostic, and I want to believe in God; but I’m trying to not let that impact my search for truth and decision-making
This guy was given the answer multiple times i understood it immidiately
The student didn't want Richard Dawkins to be "sitting at the metaphorical table." The student only wanted religious people to be at his metaphorical table. What is the point of that table? To make a truth claim. The claim that *God doesn't exist* is a truth claim. Richard Dawkins would have to be sitting at that student's metaphorical table.
>>The student then started saying, all religious people have "similar evidence" for their claims. They don't. The religions of the world vary greatly on the major points of their respective religions. What Frank kept wanting to remind the student was what *evidence* in our universe supports Christianity - which the student *missed* the earlier lectures that would have provided the evidence for the truth claim Mr. Turek was making. The same truth claim all Christians make. Basically the student was asking a question Frank already answered 70 minutes ago but the student didn't make himself available for the lectures in the first place.
Lastly, the Bible tells us *not* to *only* cite the Bible as the basis for our truth claim. I am a Christian. The Bible tells us share your testimony. How you became saved. Making Christianity unique. Not only does natural evidence support the existence of the God of the Bible which Frank is an expert in teaching on - but our testimonies convict people's hearts. People are compelled to consider the God of the Bible's existence when a Christian shares their testimony.
Trapdoor Majesty- I'm not aware of the scripture that tells us to share how we came to the knowledge of God. Can you please quote scripture when you mention it rather than just hoping people will know it or even believe it's there? I'm confused about the scripture you said is in the Bible. Where can I find it?
great super point..
@@user-gt9xd8bq3h I knew there was no such scripture. I just wanted to see if he'd try to find it and see his claim isn't true.
Luke 8: 38-39 among others
Trapdoor - why do you believe?
It gets really hard to listen to a guy like Nick. He's very arrogant and assumes a great deal, yet believes he's the next great intellectual and that he's actually contributing something to the discourse. It's got to be the age. I have to keep telling myself that he's the mission field. Sigh.
Philip Christ Follower He is dazzled by his own brilliance.
Els So was Lucifer. Look wanted happened to him by his pride.
My colleagues were very smart but I don't know if they were arrogant or smart. But for some reason, I believe my colleagues were wrong because they did not have the peace of Jesus Christ.
Rolling my eyes so hard at this guy's contentions that it hurts.
Every time he said paradox:
Me: “you keep using that word. I do think it means what you think it means”