Elektron Syntakt | Emptyset Inspired Sound Design | User Friendly
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2025
- In this video we use the Syntakt, Analog heat, and a Mackie CR1604 to get into some Emptyset Inspired sound design. Enjoy!
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What are some things to look for in old analog mixers for this kind of thing? Any particular brands/eras that stand out?
You know, this is a really good question that I don’t know the answer to. A friend from instgram recommended this CR1604 (not the vlz) to me and I know that it is relatively revered in the electronic community as being a solid warm mixer. But beyond that, I don’t know much. I can say though, that the mixer isn’t actually that important. To me what is important is that things happen in stages and that there is multiple pieces interacting with each other. You can get a lot of great “warm” tones from gain slightly overdriving things little by little at each spot. I think there are some boss mixers that people really like. I’ll pin this comment so hopefully some one can help you out more!
@@userfriendlysounds Thank you, I appreciate the insight!
This may not help you but this guy has made some killer music with literally a mixer he pulled from the trash.
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I'm an (affordable) analog mixer aficionado you could say. You've got the old soundcrafts (spirit studios f.i.) which sound very warm. Then you've got the old Tascams which can overdrive and have a very musical EQ. Then you've got the old mackies (like in this vid) which sound more aggressive. You could also look out for the Boss BX which are crap, but used for their insane overdrive. Most times you can find them at lowish prices, but check if channels are working, crackling sounds on buttons/knobs can be solved with some deoxit.
@@cl1xor Exactly the kinda breakdown I was looking for, ty.
The overdrive / clipping
on the Cr1604 is really nice.
I hope that this is your normal voice. Also this was awesome.
I could listen to this all day
I had no idea they were doing cr1604 that were not in the VLZ serie. it looks gorgeous.
Yes, I love old Mackie mixer x)
Dude, you're a genius! 🇯🇵
CR1604 is a legend!
YES! Reminds me of our early experiments. So good!
AWESOME! also I love your "voice" - it makes it so funny to listen to the video
I have the same mixer paired with Sherman filterbank 2 😂
❤️🙀❤️ Sherman is absolutely FILTHY
That’s better distortion than most dedicated units. And if someone comes at me with “OD isn’t distortion” I’ll throw a table at you.
OD isn’t distortion
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Solid technique bro. Love it.
This sounds delicious!!
you are my spirit channel
Fuck that sounds sick dude
I used to have this mixer… and more importantly, I HAD the very first Mackie mixer, which was 16 channels… And it had four external sends per channel. And I used that feature a lot in my live performances - though very sadly… NO EQ. That said, I never ever EVER should’ve sold that. What a fantastic option to have on ANY mixer. 😌😝. Why don’t more mixers have at least 4 to 6 auxiliary sends? It’s criminal that they don’t. Game changing in my opinion … 🐜🐜🐜
Absolutely. Super flexible and SO fun for no input mixing. Not to mention giving you the ability to run stereo out sends. But the EQ on this mixer is my favorite. The way it drives sounds SO GOOD
awesome stuff!!
Nice mixer 😉
Please make a Syntakt sound pack pattern project thingy!
V inspiring
That's another brilliant idea and sound. Do you think it can be done with Oto Boum instead of the Analog Heat? I've previously been doing that kind of distortions using my Panasonic RQ-L309 tape recorder as an Aux send. Then I was thinking it's that recorder which is kind of magical but now you've broken the spell. More Octatrack videos please 🙏
Yeah I think so! Boum is great and has a really interesting sound. I think your should try it!
@@userfriendlysounds thanks! Boum hasn't got the headphones output - only main out.
@kaeesone you could use a splitter cable or a mult!
the analog heat... i have an effects loop with BOSS half rack compressor, highpass/lowpass EQ, and a tube preamp that i assume kind of goes for the same concepts... what else does the heat have that could be added to my effect loop? the tube preamp has the gain, but maybe another drive? what does the heat even do?
It’s different distortion circuits. So it’s the same I’d say but more different flavors. Plus envelope follower, lfo, 2 band eq, analog resonant filter, and midi controllable
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May I ask why use the headphone out from the Syntakt? -is it “hotter”/more fun? And can you use a stereo to 2x mono TS cable? I haven’t got a Heat, so I’m trying it with my sp404 overdrive effect. Using a smaller mixer to attenuate. The whole set up just SKREECHES. All I can hear in my head is UserFreindly barking at me, “you hecked that up!”
I can’t remember. Probably just because that was the cable I had closest to me haha but it trs to duel ts should be the same as coming out of the mains!
@@userfriendlysounds thanks for your answer 🙂
Love this bud. I’ve got all the set up to do this except the attenuator. Which one did you use?
The one I have is made by 2HP. But literally any old attenuator will work! :)
@@userfriendlysounds cheers bud! Loving ur stuff btw. Very inspiring!
@@userfriendlysounds any recommendations on an attenuator. I have an old behringer mixer and would like to do this with syntakt and heat. Prob use digitakt for compression
@@juz4anna www.twohp.com/modules/trim that’s the one I use
@@userfriendlysounds cheers bud thank you very much for that and your vids too!!!
as an aside, how on EARTH did you find a 1604 that clean? It looks factory new.
reverb! I also took apart and cleaned it when I got it and I'm sort of ocd about dust haha
Reminds me of Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys 😂
use space words!
Aww the subtitles aren't fun anymore. Video is fantastic though nice one!
Yeah didn’t have time for it on this one! Next time!
Yo - I’ve got an mpc one - analog heat - tascam model 12
Can I do something similar ?
I’m pretty new to all this and not sure how I’d route everything . I know the mixer is digital but there’s gotta be something cool I could be doing
I dont know much about those (though I really want a model 12, I hear nothing but great things about it) But I don't see why you couldn't do something along these lines. You *probably** wont hurt anything. Just watch your ears, try stuff out and have fun!
@@userfriendlysounds big love - ill give it a blast . The Tascam is wicked by the way , super flexible
where does one find an attenuator like the one you are using?
Eurorack has loads of them!
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Dumb question here! Is there any way to do this without a mixer? Could you use an interface with extra outputs to do this? Maybe run extra outputs into a distortion pedal and then back into open inputs on the interface and do the routing and limiting in the DAW? Could you achieve something similar with an MS-20? Thanks!
Yeah I mean feedback is super open to anything with I/O! Just keep in mind attenuation and watch your ears! In this video I do feedback with only the syntakt!
Elektron Syntakt Feedback | Don't Try This Not at Home
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@@userfriendlysounds going to watch this now, thank you for the feedback. I think I have what I need to make this work, I have a passive re-ampt box with an attenuator/level on it. I'd imagine that would work smashing into the RAT pedal or SD-1? I'll throw a limiter on my master so I don't destroy my monitors.
@@userfriendlysoundsthanks for that "TaktBack" link - I searched comments for 'input to see if anyone had asked why you didn't use the Syntakt's input from a aux send. Would be great to hear that with the heat too? Maybe through a matrix mixer - bur that's prob asking too much LOL
@@neilbriscombe Im not sure, but probably because of how sensitive they are and how the slightest bit of dynamic can send the syntakt into a FB loop. Maybe something about the digital control vs the analog control of the 1604? Also, I lose track of what’s happening after just a loop or two so it could be that I was like okay that’s enough. Haha but using the aux ins on the syntakt is killer for this stuff because you have the vca to turn the feedback into a voice.
Love this! How many of the sounds that you end up producing are what you were intentionally trying to create vs "happy accidents" (as Bob Ross would put it)?
Also, any chance of getting a video exploring the feedback oscillator setting on the analog four?
Oh everything I make is accident! Haha
Perhaps! I’ll take a look