Just as a grumpy old safety nut: PLEASE heed the warning on zinc! Metal Fume Fever is not imaginary, and can lead to lasting health implications. Simple "ventilation" is insufficient, if you weld on similar hinges, at the very least put a fan at your back to ensure you stay upwind, and consider using a ventilated mask with air filtration for fume contamination. That said, awesome video as usual, and I think this gives me an idea on how to finally find a home in our makerspace for a bunch of tools we've been stumbling over for a while now... Great idea, and thanks for sharing!
Super important note here, since this channel has started with a touch of blacksmithing, don't put galvanized steel in a forge, either. Working with scrap in blacksmithing is always super tempting since it's cheap but just make sure you know what you're using before you heat it.
Don't apologize or minimize your comment by saying you're a "grumpy old safety nut". If this video encourages anyone to weld hinges like he did, it could expose them to some very nasty stuff. I think it was borderline irresponsible for the video to hand-wave away the safety concerns the way it did. This is not anything to play around with.
And if you ever get zinc-oxid fumes in your system, you can emergency treat it with a liter of high fat milk, to help the body get rid of the poison. It feels like a heavy fever with shivering fit. If it lasts longer than a few hours, see a doctor!
This. Is. AMAZING!! I've been watching HOURS of flip top and modular workbench videos. This is the solution I needed. I can totally convert the carts I already have to fold away and it won't take me 3 months to do it. THANK YOU!
Gareth, it is called "shop evolution" eventually you will have "binned" everything and started over. In some areas it will happen more than once. Just not all at the same time.
This is fun. Thanks. Can’t see this slight adjustment suggested yet so here it is. Mount the hinges in shallow recesses and on the “under side” of the board as it sits on top of the table. It will mean the tool will hang underneath the table instead of leaning out a little. Inspiring video. Thanks again.
I've done something similar using a grid of T-nuts going through a bench top. I have a load of tools attached to boards that I slide off their shelf and bolt straight onto the bench top. It take about 3 seconds, with a drill driver, to fit a new tool to the bench. Very quick and 1 bench can be used for 90% of my bench top tools 😁👍👍👍👍👍
Your self depricating edit and humor really sold me. I also like how you added on to a previous project to better fit your needs. I'm so glad I subbed when ye made that hidden room wall thing. 😊
This is so ridiculously simple but effective I'm annoyed at myself for not thinking of it in my shop. Quick and dirty is all you need for shop furniture. Thanks for another excellent video ILTMS
Great, great idea!! For the vice, drill holes through vice flipboard, matching threaded inserts into bench top. I would do four with threaded nobs. You will usually only need one or two, but for something that requires muscle you are ready to go. You could put extra inserts in the flipboard to hold the nobs when not in use.
I made a lathe run off an old sowing machine motor and this is the perfect solution to carting the heavy motor on and off my table, love it, THANK YOU!
One more thing to do to make the whole thing even "better." Allow the table top to be hinged and lifted and make a shallow storage area under it. Can be used for accessories for the fold down equipment, or clamps or whatever. Splitting the table top into two sections could also be helpful in opening one side while a device is on top on the other side.
I like the idea and the implementation. I only think that for tools like a vice, but also many others, you might need a way to anchor the rotating panel after it is rolled over the table. When using the vice you might apply a strong force in different directions that with the current implementation are all going to be absorbed by the hinges.
@@Iliketomakestuff you could drill some holes part of the way through the worktop and a dowel connected to the underside of the toolpanel to minimize rocking/vibrations while using the tool. the dowel fits in the holes which should work...
This is one of those ideas that's so simple it's brilliant. Will definitely do something like this. Have that exact vise and no place to mount it! Not having access to a welder, I immediately started thinking of alternative ways to manage the hinges. 😀
ideally the vise should be closer to the edge so the fixed jaw is over the edge. That way the table doesn't get in the way of clamping a long piece vertical
Self Locking gate latch, or even hook and eye would prevent the folded pieces from coming loose, upon table vibration and moving. AWESOME build! Thanks for the ideas.
I just made a work table for my shop and I’m in the process of modifying it to make the most out of it. I’ve wanted to do something like this for awhile and after watching this video I think I’m going to. So thanks for the motivation!
Brilliant! This has got to be the most useful video for my own cramped garage shop that I've seen! I _will_ be mounting a drill press, vise, bench grinder and pocket hole jig in this same way now, on a new cart I was planning on making in a few days. This will free up a ton of space for me! Thank you!
This was a particularly cool concept. Well done Bob. A quick idea for the short wood screws attaching your hinges to the flip boards. Since you have a welder available, use some mild steel to create a strip from one hinge to the next. Punch, drill, and counter sink a number of holes in the strip. That way you can add more screws for additional support.
Size, he’d have to add 1/2” plywood to it as well. A 2x4 is 3 -1/2” on edge, 2 of them laying down is only 3”. He needs enough clearance for the crank. But yeah I was thinking the same thing still figured he’d do that lol.
I LOVE this idea. I have a bunch of lesser used tools that need a home. I also have a workbench with a bunch of unused space like yours. I'm going to have to try this and see how it works for my stuff. Thank you so much.
Thank you for this video! I've been trying to reorganize my work shop (garage) and I have a few largeish tools that I use a lot less often than I'd like to, like my mini lathe and my scroll saw. This will be a lot easier than pulling them off the shelf they're on, finding a place to set them up, then putting them back on the shelf.
Doing this!! Already built these tables from your plans and was looking for an easy way to do this exact thing without having to rebuild the workbenches. Thanks again!
This is great! I was just fretting about using table space to mount a vise permanently. One idea for improvement would be to put some removable pins through the mounting board into the table so when you push and pull on the vice it doesn’t rip out the hinges.
Hey Bob! I just heard your book Making Time on Audible (can't believe I haven't heard it earlier), and just wanted to let you know it was so good for us to hear that book, putting words to the same thoughts and feelings we've had during the development of our channel. In the UA-cam world you kinda feel alone, but it's so great to hear about your journey and that you've gone through exactly what we're in the middle of. Thanks for that book, and thanks for your channel, and thanks for that pic on Maker's Central! Peace! You're awesome. - Hansi
Hey Bob! I just finished your book and it was incredible. I don’t read books, but I read yours and it was fantastic. I’ve been following your channel for years now and your book made me learn a lot. I hope a second edition is in the works. Until then, keep making awesome stuff!
Great I am very impressed this is a solution I need, as I am reorgniseing my shop and have a number of uses for this When mounting a vice the fixed jaw should slightly overhang the edge of the bench. This will allow for clamping a long object in the vice.
Right I have a cool 36x36 aluminum table that is my assembly/ welding table and I can put my little tungsten grinder and a vice on hinges for starters. Excellent! Great ideas an presentation. No wonder you have over 3 million subscribers.
Brilliant idea, imagine designing a table specifically with this in mind instead of working with the existing table you already had. The possibilities are endless.
I love this. My new shop will only be 10' x 16'. So I have to optimize my space. I want to put a bench along the long side of the shop. Putting tools like this will definitely help.
I'm currently making an all-in-one station and considering adding a scroll saw on a flip up because of this video, instead of on a 180 degree rotational table, which I think will save me some room and allow me to utilize that planned space in a different way. So thanks!
Wow;!!! My mind is blown! Been looking out for different ways, to utilize my tools. From flip tops, to carousels! When i have been starring at the solution all this time! In the middle of the garage!!!!! 🤯🤷🏼♂️who new? Thanks 🙏 some one is looking out for me I’m telling ya!!!
Brilliant project. An idea i had is you could drill some holes at the far end of the plywood the vise is bolted to and add threaded inserts into the tabletop just below the holes. That way you could bolt the ply down at the other side of the hinges if you ever plan on doing some heavy work with the vise. It'd stop it from wobbling around.
That’s an awesome addition to a workbench!! Might need to play with a few options like those. Also, it’s incredible the whole Solo family are part of the Alliance at last.
This felt like an old school, just Bob in the old garage, super basic ideas, on his own video. Loved it. (Not knocking any of the rest of the ILTMS crew, but it's lovely to have the retro feel!)
Nice video, Thank you. It takes a little searching, but you can find non zinc plated hinges. Just paint them when you are finished so that they don't rust.
I have a large bench in my basement, with not so much space (can't move the bench around). I was thinking of ways solve this exact problem. Best I could come up with was mittered wood that would form the bench. Then you take part of the wood out and come in with a similar piece of wood with the tool attached. But this solution is so much easier to implement and also needs less weight lifting on my part (since part of the weight is supported by the hinges). Brilliant. I'm glad i was lazy enough on my implementation that I got to see this :D
Try using T nuts in the plywood that all of the tools are mounted to. They lock into the plywood plus no drilling of the plywood and gives you more material to support the weight of the tool. Great video, keep them coming.
Uhm Hi, first; great idea with the fold away storage. I only have one suggestion: maybe secure the vice on the other side, too.(Clamps, some woodblocks,..) I don't know what you wanna do with your vice, but some might get a rough beating or have to endure a lot of force, what could deform those hinges. PS: Washers are there to apply the clamping force of the screw evenly on a surface, to preserv the wood surface is only a secondary "feature".
Love this idea. I've been considering building a new outfeed table for my SawStop, but I really don't need more drawer storage under it. This would be a great alternative.
I like to line the fixed jaw of the vice up.with the edge of the bench. If you want to hold something long in the vice (pipe etc.) It can drop down past the edge of the bench all the way down to the floor.
Just as a grumpy old safety nut: PLEASE heed the warning on zinc! Metal Fume Fever is not imaginary, and can lead to lasting health implications. Simple "ventilation" is insufficient, if you weld on similar hinges, at the very least put a fan at your back to ensure you stay upwind, and consider using a ventilated mask with air filtration for fume contamination.
That said, awesome video as usual, and I think this gives me an idea on how to finally find a home in our makerspace for a bunch of tools we've been stumbling over for a while now... Great idea, and thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing this.
Super important note here, since this channel has started with a touch of blacksmithing, don't put galvanized steel in a forge, either. Working with scrap in blacksmithing is always super tempting since it's cheap but just make sure you know what you're using before you heat it.
Don't apologize or minimize your comment by saying you're a "grumpy old safety nut". If this video encourages anyone to weld hinges like he did, it could expose them to some very nasty stuff. I think it was borderline irresponsible for the video to hand-wave away the safety concerns the way it did. This is not anything to play around with.
And if you ever get zinc-oxid fumes in your system, you can emergency treat it with a liter of high fat milk, to help the body get rid of the poison. It feels like a heavy fever with shivering fit. If it lasts longer than a few hours, see a doctor!
Just hold your breath while you weld.
I love the fact you point out your mistakes and show your ability to learn whilst teaching others the best way!!!
Agreed, loved how he pointed out the grain in the little woodstopper piece he added.
I love the honesty when you highlight the small mistakes you make . So refreshing.
This. Is. AMAZING!! I've been watching HOURS of flip top and modular workbench videos. This is the solution I needed. I can totally convert the carts I already have to fold away and it won't take me 3 months to do it. THANK YOU!
The more videos I watch about workshop improvements wants me to bin EVERYTHING in my shop and start again!
Ha, I wouldn't go that far.
Gareth, it is called "shop evolution" eventually you will have "binned" everything and started over. In some areas it will happen more than once. Just not all at the same time.
I wished I had a Shop to binge in ✌️😕
Never thought of that hinge idea. Genius. You always show me something new. Thank you Bob!
This is fun. Thanks.
Can’t see this slight adjustment suggested yet so here it is.
Mount the hinges in shallow recesses and on the “under side” of the board as it sits on top of the table. It will mean the tool will hang underneath the table instead of leaning out a little.
Inspiring video.
Thanks again.
That unfolded...the wrinkles in my brain for ideas , THANK YOU BOB!
We always hope we can help inspire people to go make something. Thank You!
Super creative mode : On 💪
If you don't have a welder you can buy the correct hinges. They are called 5 Knuckle hinges. They cost about $ 6 /each and are made for 3/4 material.
Bob, your videos are always PARTICULARly good
finally more workshop videos! These are the best and most practical videos imo. I am always looking for ways to improve the efficiency of my shop.
Amazingly simple and effective idea. You’ve solved a problem that I’ve been pondering for weeks!
I've done something similar using a grid of T-nuts going through a bench top. I have a load of tools attached to boards that I slide off their shelf and bolt straight onto the bench top. It take about 3 seconds, with a drill driver, to fit a new tool to the bench. Very quick and 1 bench can be used for 90% of my bench top tools 😁👍👍👍👍👍
Your self depricating edit and humor really sold me. I also like how you added on to a previous project to better fit your needs. I'm so glad I subbed when ye made that hidden room wall thing. 😊
I dig the double hinges trick!!! Very cool Bob!
Happy to see some R2-D2 parts in the background, looking forward to the next installment of that series
This is so ridiculously simple but effective I'm annoyed at myself for not thinking of it in my shop. Quick and dirty is all you need for shop furniture. Thanks for another excellent video ILTMS
Shop furniture should evolve as your skills and equipment do. Thanks!
Maybe router out a handhold towards the end of the boards to help gripping the tool as you flip it up or down
I had the same thought watching this video. I think that will be a part of my application fot his idea into my existing workshop table.
Great, great idea!! For the vice, drill holes through vice flipboard, matching threaded inserts into bench top. I would do four with threaded nobs. You will usually only need one or two, but for something that requires muscle you are ready to go. You could put extra inserts in the flipboard to hold the nobs when not in use.
I like this particular solution.
In particular, me too
I made a lathe run off an old sowing machine motor and this is the perfect solution to carting the heavy motor on and off my table, love it, THANK YOU!
One more thing to do to make the whole thing even "better." Allow the table top to be hinged and lifted and make a shallow storage area under it. Can be used for accessories for the fold down equipment, or clamps or whatever. Splitting the table top into two sections could also be helpful in opening one side while a device is on top on the other side.
The "fold away vice" is sheer brilliance, Bob, the thing is kinda always in my way on the work bench, but I need it nonetheless. Thanks for this one!
I like the idea and the implementation.
I only think that for tools like a vice, but also many others, you might need a way to anchor the rotating panel after it is rolled over the table.
When using the vice you might apply a strong force in different directions that with the current implementation are all going to be absorbed by the hinges.
That's a good point, and you could definitely use some clamps to hold that panel to the table once it was flipped into place 👍🏼
@@Iliketomakestuff you could drill some holes part of the way through the worktop and a dowel connected to the underside of the toolpanel to minimize rocking/vibrations while using the tool. the dowel fits in the holes which should work...
I suggested threaded inserts and bolts, but that does seem kinda overkill. A clamp would do just fine
This is one of those ideas that's so simple it's brilliant. Will definitely do something like this. Have that exact vise and no place to mount it!
Not having access to a welder, I immediately started thinking of alternative ways to manage the hinges. 😀
ideally the vise should be closer to the edge so the fixed jaw is over the edge. That way the table doesn't get in the way of clamping a long piece vertical
Self Locking gate latch, or even hook and eye would prevent the folded pieces from coming loose, upon table vibration and moving. AWESOME build! Thanks for the ideas.
Dude! Are you a wizard? This is a great project for anyone!!!
Only on the weekends.
Hi! I'm Matt and I like to watch you make stuff. Today I'm going to watch you make a simple workbench way better.
I just made a work table for my shop and I’m in the process of modifying it to make the most out of it. I’ve wanted to do something like this for awhile and after watching this video I think I’m going to. So thanks for the motivation!
That scroll saw is awesome! Picked one up like it at a flea market and it's been serving me well!
Great! They definitely are handy.
Love all the “people” in the Maker Alliance 😎
Brilliant! This has got to be the most useful video for my own cramped garage shop that I've seen! I _will_ be mounting a drill press, vise, bench grinder and pocket hole jig in this same way now, on a new cart I was planning on making in a few days. This will free up a ton of space for me! Thank you!
That's great, you're space should always be evolving!
I really like this idea. Great work, Bob!
Thanks Caleb!
This was a particularly cool concept. Well done Bob. A quick idea for the short wood screws attaching your hinges to the flip boards. Since you have a welder available, use some mild steel to create a strip from one hinge to the next. Punch, drill, and counter sink a number of holes in the strip. That way you can add more screws for additional support.
Clever and simple solution.
Re the leather sewing machine being at an angle; why not just unscrew and reposition the mounting blocks you made?
I think mounting them horizontal instead of vertical will be stronger as well.
Size, he’d have to add 1/2” plywood to it as well. A 2x4 is 3 -1/2” on edge, 2 of them laying down is only 3”. He needs enough clearance for the crank. But yeah I was thinking the same thing still figured he’d do that lol.
A clever solution to store a variety of tools! Thanks for posting this
I LOVE this idea. I have a bunch of lesser used tools that need a home. I also have a workbench with a bunch of unused space like yours. I'm going to have to try this and see how it works for my stuff. Thank you so much.
Thank you for this video! I've been trying to reorganize my work shop (garage) and I have a few largeish tools that I use a lot less often than I'd like to, like my mini lathe and my scroll saw. This will be a lot easier than pulling them off the shelf they're on, finding a place to set them up, then putting them back on the shelf.
10:18 Might be worth considering using strap hinges for the top half of each pair. That would give you a much more secure mounting arrangement.
You did real good on this Bob, very original ! Thank you for sharing
I LOVE this!!! I’m not sure if my work area needs something like this just yet, but I love seeing projects that are practical AND help save space!!!
Doing this!!
Already built these tables from your plans and was looking for an easy way to do this exact thing without having to rebuild the workbenches. Thanks again!
Great ideas Bob! Love it for my small workspace! And way easier than all those flip-top ideas that I have been watching!
Thanks!
I kinda like this apposed to your standard flip table.
Hi Bob, what simple but yet a great idea. Thank you
This is great! I was just fretting about using table space to mount a vise permanently.
One idea for improvement would be to put some removable pins through the mounting board into the table so when you push and pull on the vice it doesn’t rip out the hinges.
that's a great idea!
Thanks for showing this effective solution. The build is simple, inexpensive and a huge space saver. Going to save this video for sure. Thanks Bob
Hey Bob! I just heard your book Making Time on Audible (can't believe I haven't heard it earlier), and just wanted to let you know it was so good for us to hear that book, putting words to the same thoughts and feelings we've had during the development of our channel. In the UA-cam world you kinda feel alone, but it's so great to hear about your journey and that you've gone through exactly what we're in the middle of. Thanks for that book, and thanks for your channel, and thanks for that pic on Maker's Central! Peace! You're awesome.
- Hansi
Awesome, thanks for listening! I'm so glad that you were able to get something useful out of it!!
I already bought the plans and built those tables. I love em. Now I know what I'll be doing this weekend. Thanks Bob!
Excellent!!
Hey Bob! I just finished your book and it was incredible. I don’t read books, but I read yours and it was fantastic. I’ve been following your channel for years now and your book made me learn a lot. I hope a second edition is in the works. Until then, keep making awesome stuff!
I’m still in the planning process of my new workbench and now I’m thinking of ways to incorporate this idea! Thanks for another great idea!
This is a great idea, never thought of this, Thank you very much for keeping my table top clean again.
Great I am very impressed this is a solution I need, as I am reorgniseing my shop and have a number of uses for this When mounting a vice the fixed jaw should slightly overhang the edge of the bench. This will allow for clamping a long object in the vice.
Right I have a cool 36x36 aluminum table that is my assembly/ welding table and I can put my little tungsten grinder and a vice on hinges for starters. Excellent! Great ideas an presentation. No wonder you have over 3 million subscribers.
Brilliant idea, imagine designing a table specifically with this in mind instead of working with the existing table you already had. The possibilities are endless.
I love this. My new shop will only be 10' x 16'. So I have to optimize my space. I want to put a bench along the long side of the shop. Putting tools like this will definitely help.
Any off the shelf ideas for hinges that would work for this?
I love your shirt. Bill and Ted's wisdom for the ages.
Definitely utilizing this idea in our shop!
Definitely agree. Great solution for something quicker and simple over a full blown flip top bench. Sweet little project
I'm currently making an all-in-one station and considering adding a scroll saw on a flip up because of this video, instead of on a 180 degree rotational table, which I think will save me some room and allow me to utilize that planned space in a different way. So thanks!
Brilliant idea for space saving
Wow;!!! My mind is blown! Been looking out for different ways, to utilize my tools. From flip tops, to carousels! When i have been starring at the solution all this time! In the middle of the garage!!!!! 🤯🤷🏼♂️who new? Thanks 🙏 some one is looking out for me I’m telling ya!!!
Thank you so much, I have been thinking of this for so long with all my tools laying all over the place.
You would really help the tiny home community with these ideas!!!!!
Nice job!!! As always, I miss your shop builds
Love it! Love all the ways you can modify that simple workbench to fit any need.
I just happy to see you working on R2! YAY!!!
Really helpful. I'm building a little 8x10 workshop and ideas like this will be great for saving precious working space and optimise the shop
Simple or not this shows that thinking about shop layout a bit differently can open up all sorts of opportunities. Who knows where this can lead!
Tee nuts might be a better choice for bolting heavy parts onto the wood, saves having to countersink. Stronger too.
This is one of my favourite videos. I will be trying this for sure.
Maybe hit the hinges with a grinder first if you're going to vaporize the zinc. Galvanized steel isn't something to screw with on heat.
Brilliant project. An idea i had is you could drill some holes at the far end of the plywood the vise is bolted to and add threaded inserts into the tabletop just below the holes. That way you could bolt the ply down at the other side of the hinges if you ever plan on doing some heavy work with the vise. It'd stop it from wobbling around.
That’s an awesome addition to a workbench!! Might need to play with a few options like those. Also, it’s incredible the whole Solo family are part of the Alliance at last.
Excellent idea . Thank you for posting sir.
This felt like an old school, just Bob in the old garage, super basic ideas, on his own video.
Loved it. (Not knocking any of the rest of the ILTMS crew, but it's lovely to have the retro feel!)
Nice video, Thank you. It takes a little searching, but you can find non zinc plated hinges. Just paint them when you are finished so that they don't rust.
I have a large bench in my basement, with not so much space (can't move the bench around). I was thinking of ways solve this exact problem. Best I could come up with was mittered wood that would form the bench. Then you take part of the wood out and come in with a similar piece of wood with the tool attached. But this solution is so much easier to implement and also needs less weight lifting on my part (since part of the weight is supported by the hinges). Brilliant. I'm glad i was lazy enough on my implementation that I got to see this :D
Bucking frilliant! Love it! Love it! Love it!
Thank you *very* much ❤️
What a simple but effective idea! My vice is always in the way and never easy to get at when I do need it! Problem Solved. Thank you 🙏
Try using T nuts in the plywood that all of the tools are mounted to. They lock into the plywood plus no drilling of the plywood and gives you more material to support the weight of the tool. Great video, keep them coming.
Brilliant solution to a shortage of space.This is my next project.
Excellent idea, Bob!! Genius. You da man!
Brill, what a simple idea, why didn't I think of that LOL. Also good presentation, I knew exactly what you were doing at every point. Well Done!
Ha! I had the same idea to do in my shop but hadn't gotten around to doing it yet, glad to know it works!
Uhm Hi, first; great idea with the fold away storage. I only have one suggestion: maybe secure the vice on the other side, too.(Clamps, some woodblocks,..) I don't know what you wanna do with your vice, but some might get a rough beating or have to endure a lot of force, what could deform those hinges.
PS: Washers are there to apply the clamping force of the screw evenly on a surface, to preserv the wood surface is only a secondary "feature".
Good idea! Clamping down the vice panel would be a simple task but make a big difference in stability 👍🏼
I love the functionality of this table/tool combination.
I love love LOVE your tutorials! Thank you 🙏🏻
You are totally welcome! Thanks you!
Great idea with the double hinge.
5:10 "There's no electric to this"
Izzy Swan: "Hold my drill"
:)
Realy very well done.
Willy from Belgium.
💎💎💎
A 3D printed latch as a locking mechanism would be a cool little project/video, I’d love to see that
This is actually an awesome idea...it's been a while since I've seen something so refreshingly simple and useful! Awesome work guys!
Love this idea. I've been considering building a new outfeed table for my SawStop, but I really don't need more drawer storage under it. This would be a great alternative.
Your videos haven’t popped up in my sub box for a while, glad to see you’re still active
I like to line the fixed jaw of the vice up.with the edge of the bench. If you want to hold something long in the vice (pipe etc.) It can drop down past the edge of the bench all the way down to the floor.
Another superb project! Thanks Bob!
I loved this project, I'll do it for my tools too. Congrats for sharing this.
Awesome job on the folding tool storage Bob! Thanks for sharing the video with us.👌👍😎JP