Owned a 1992 E36 325i coupe here in Australia for 4 years. Had an LSD. All I did was upgrade all the bushes, new brakes and pads and Bridgestone S001 tyres and it was a joy to drive. Not that fast in a straight line but through the corners it could put the power down beautifully. And that engine note!
The E36 is an incredible machine when comsidering the price. Now they are on the rise but a few years ago 328i could be bought for less than 2 grand. The chassis is like a race car spec which is amazing for a 'family' car
So much plesure to watch Ignas talking with so much love of this model 😊 great content! Can’t wait for the next one, and doesn’t even matter what it will be about 🤩
I had a few e36, including 328i tracktoll and M3, they are great cars when modified, only drawback is that they don't have a very exciting playful chassis, because of long wheelbase/engine placement. They drive like on rails with a predictable understeer over the limit. Best aftermarket support of any bmw and the biggest community with insane amount of DIY's and knowledge. They are getting old, expensive and rare.. I still recommend them above any other bmw for track driving.
Got my 328i 20 years ago for only 4K, full m50 intake and chip and it was on 220bhp lightened to 1200kg, all STREET LEGAL... it flied. E36 were designed as racing machines, even the 318iS E36 came with a reinforced engine that can do 180bhp from stock with a few mods... had both, very light cars with very good traction and very good engines... and a very good aerodinamics. Compared to the crap today car standars even a 318 E36 can be a racecar... thats why the price increased a lot... the 4K 328i i got in 2000 now its about sold at 14K !!! Only compact E36 still being a bit cheap because people dont know they even exists lol... get an E36 now when is still affordable.
@SargentoDuke I'm so tempted but my car is 100% stock standard. I got an m20 single mass flywheel at home, and it fits right on. It came out my e28 520i. I love how interchangeable 80's/90's Beemer parts are. The m52 can drop just like that into the e28 cause it shares a zf box. With regards to software, will I need to burn the physical chip or flash the ecu...can you recommend software if I ever go that route?
@@91son92 chip replacement, but its soldered on later models... So you need to install a shocket, on early ones its just unplug the old chip and plug the new
I have a 99 323 w/87k on it,great condition but it's a convertible with no automatic roll bars so it's either sell it or put a gaudy roll cage in..$5500 in central NC if anyone's interested.
m52tu still had throttle cable but the throttle body is electric and ecu can control it when it wants, it has worse throttle response compared to m50 or m52. Also throttle body fails often on these resulting in something like limp home mode and it can loose all power when it fails - very unpleasant in traffic
You're Norbefilm's brother aren't you? I used to follow his channel probably more than 10 years ago. I also have an E36 330i (M54B30) but I don't have time to drive it much, since it's a full rollcage build. Now I wished I didn't install the rollcage in it and keep it street legal. I bought an E90 330i, but I feel like I need to strip some weight down from it to enjoy it more. How would you compare E90 with E36?
I am 😅 E90 330i is another class and much much faster car than e36 - both engine and suspension is much better. E36 is a great fun, but its already an old csr with old technologies
Did you convert to ms42 or ms43 ? (to run dual vanos) i have a spare m54b30 built for boost, i was going to put it in a e39, but i built a turbo s52 for that car in the end. I converted ms42 to ms43 on the s52 car. So its not my first rodeo, just curious how much trouble it was to rewire the dme if you stayed with bmw?
really nice video! also good job on the technical details. Most people that feature these cars on their channel dont know them. I would just like to add my own 2 cents. e36s only came with m52 non-tu( single vanos)(e36/7 and / 8 came with m52 tu) early e39s and e46s still feature the m52 tu( dual vanos) Both m52 and m52 tu feature a manual throttle cable. so the e36 isnt the last car to come with a manual throttle cable
You are correct about early e39 and early e46 - but in the same time, these cars were built at the same year as E36 Tourings, Cabrios. So it still counts as the last one :)) Thanks for good words about the video!
This was custom built just for this car, but you can also check AST-rollcages, very good precut and prebend cages - so only welding is left to be done.
I wouldn´t give my E36 away for anything, even bought an additional 325i convertible last year because i got my coupe where i want it pretty much, so obviously needed another project. 😅 You literally can do everything on it yourself, my coupe hasn´t seen a shop/garage since 2016, it´s so simple to maintain or update parts. Old beemers are just better! 😁👍
Excellent video I have a 1996 328i. And a 2006 e90 manual transmission. I'm absolutely torn between the two. I build my cars to daily drive and the E90 obviously has a little bit better amenities. But I have not had the chance to track either one😢
e36 interior is its downfall. e90 can weigh 1000 pounds more depending on options. Having flogged bolth cars, the e36 is worlds ahead on a track imo as long as its got decent power. i would guess a e36 can keep up with a e90 that has 100 extra w.h.p. The e36 with a iron block can do hundreds of thousands of hard miles with basic repairs. I have yet to see a e90 that does not require lots of service, even with basic use. Diffferent era cars. 90s cars were the last to be "built to last" , 2000 cars became more expendable. Open deck aluminum blocks are not my favorite for track cars. plus the e36 parts cost penuts compared to the e90. ( my roomate has 2 e90's )
@@drewdavis239 super valuable information. Thank you. Running costs is a very valid point. The E90 has 2 disas and they are $300 a piece.... But the damn interior and windows on the e36 are so gawd dang frustrating 🤣 I've owned 2 now and FML with those windows and door panels.
The S54 is a very simple swap, probably easier than building turbo manifolds and plumbing them in and tuning it. Also the S54 is lighter, at least in the US as the M54/S54 engines were the first aluminum block inline sixes sold here. The M50/M52 and S50/S52 sold in the US had cast iron blocks due to the high sulfur in our gasoline back then. I've seen people do superchargers in e36s, not too often do you see a turbo.
Because of more cc its more powerful, but apart engine block, crankshaft and pistons - all other parts are identical between 2.5 and 2.8. So both are equally same. Just not for all racing series it is allowed to drive with 2.8 because classes are usually up to 2500cc
No replacement for displacement. In stock form it makes same horsepower, but more torque, however at the cost of a less rev happy engine that feels less angry, but still definitely faster. With a tune and M50 manifold from the 2.5 you make 220hp, getting the angriness of the 2.5 while making a lot more power than it
2.8 is better imo as long as its a iron block. (euro 2.8 is usually aluminum block) The valve train is the limiting factor so they rev the same. lots of solid lifter m52b28 cars spinning it over 8000rpm. 2.8 has 84mm pistons and 84mm stroke. the 2.5 has 84mm pistons and 75mm stroke. fwiw the rods and pistons are the same between a m50 and a m52. I read a m50tu has 140mm rods where all the other m5x engines use 135mm rods.( only one i have not rebuilt so idk?) the 2.8 feels the smoothest of them all, other than a us spec "s50" thats just a m50 with 86mm pistons and 86mm crank.( square) The m50 is "under square" with less stroke than piston width.(2.5) The 2.8 is "square" where they are equal bore and stroke. m54b30 cars are over square where the piston goes up and down further creating more piston speed and side wall loading. (a.k.a. high miles=oval bores) m54b30 is 84mm pistons 89.6 stroke.
we never got the real euro s50 in north America. the s54 did come here, and has the highest piston speeds of them all (91mm stroke) an amazing race engine, just more complicated than a m50 based car, requires a lot more up keep. aluminum block engines cant take the same abuse as iron, probably why the s54 was iron as well.
Owned a 1992 E36 325i coupe here in Australia for 4 years. Had an LSD. All I did was upgrade all the bushes, new brakes and pads and Bridgestone S001 tyres and it was a joy to drive. Not that fast in a straight line but through the corners it could put the power down beautifully. And that engine note!
The E36 is an incredible machine when comsidering the price. Now they are on the rise but a few years ago 328i could be bought for less than 2 grand. The chassis is like a race car spec which is amazing for a 'family' car
I love e36 my firs car.
I hope one day I be able enjoy it again.
E36 is my personal Favorit Nos Tracktool
So much plesure to watch Ignas talking with so much love of this model 😊 great content! Can’t wait for the next one, and doesn’t even matter what it will be about 🤩
I had a few e36, including 328i tracktoll and M3, they are great cars when modified, only drawback is that they don't have a very exciting playful chassis, because of long wheelbase/engine placement. They drive like on rails with a predictable understeer over the limit.
Best aftermarket support of any bmw and the biggest community with insane amount of DIY's and knowledge.
They are getting old, expensive and rare.. I still recommend them above any other bmw for track driving.
Great content! Love the poits score part, interesting how it wull be for different cars
What a car! What a feelings! ❤
Got my 328i 20 years ago for only 4K, full m50 intake and chip and it was on 220bhp lightened to 1200kg, all STREET LEGAL... it flied.
E36 were designed as racing machines, even the 318iS E36 came with a reinforced engine that can do 180bhp from stock with a few mods... had both, very light cars with very good traction and very good engines... and a very good aerodinamics. Compared to the crap today car standars even a 318 E36 can be a racecar... thats why the price increased a lot... the 4K 328i i got in 2000 now its about sold at 14K !!! Only compact E36 still being a bit cheap because people dont know they even exists lol... get an E36 now when is still affordable.
Got my 5 speed 328i last year. Never selling it!
@@91son92 get M50 instake and throttle, chip, 325tds auto limited slip diff, and the car will fly and reach 265kmh
@SargentoDuke I'm so tempted but my car is 100% stock standard. I got an m20 single mass flywheel at home, and it fits right on. It came out my e28 520i. I love how interchangeable 80's/90's Beemer parts are. The m52 can drop just like that into the e28 cause it shares a zf box.
With regards to software, will I need to burn the physical chip or flash the ecu...can you recommend software if I ever go that route?
@@91son92 chip replacement, but its soldered on later models... So you need to install a shocket, on early ones its just unplug the old chip and plug the new
I would hate to loose the back seat for the roll cage.
Dig the format
I have a 99 323 w/87k on it,great condition but it's a convertible with no automatic roll bars so it's either sell it or put a gaudy roll cage in..$5500 in central NC if anyone's interested.
manual
Dunno if you are on the BMW forums but a no rust NC E36 would be enticing to those up New England way. Rust eats them up there quick.
Early e46 has cable actuated throttle body too
That's true - E46/E39/E36 were still produced in same years when these still had throttle cable.
m52tu still had throttle cable but the throttle body is electric and ecu can control it when it wants, it has worse throttle response compared to m50 or m52. Also throttle body fails often on these resulting in something like limp home mode and it can loose all power when it fails - very unpleasant in traffic
You're Norbefilm's brother aren't you? I used to follow his channel probably more than 10 years ago.
I also have an E36 330i (M54B30) but I don't have time to drive it much, since it's a full rollcage build. Now I wished I didn't install the rollcage in it and keep it street legal. I bought an E90 330i, but I feel like I need to strip some weight down from it to enjoy it more.
How would you compare E90 with E36?
I am 😅 E90 330i is another class and much much faster car than e36 - both engine and suspension is much better. E36 is a great fun, but its already an old csr with old technologies
Did you convert to ms42 or ms43 ? (to run dual vanos) i have a spare m54b30 built for boost, i was going to put it in a e39, but i built a turbo s52 for that car in the end. I converted ms42 to ms43 on the s52 car. So its not my first rodeo, just curious how much trouble it was to rewire the dme if you stayed with bmw?
really nice video! also good job on the technical details. Most people that feature these cars on their channel dont know them. I would just like to add my own 2 cents. e36s only came with m52 non-tu( single vanos)(e36/7 and / 8 came with m52 tu) early e39s and e46s still feature the m52 tu( dual vanos) Both m52 and m52 tu feature a manual throttle cable. so the e36 isnt the last car to come with a manual throttle cable
You are correct about early e39 and early e46 - but in the same time, these cars were built at the same year as E36 Tourings, Cabrios. So it still counts as the last one :)) Thanks for good words about the video!
Prelift E39 and E46 got single vanos m52, after 1998 got TU double vanos, than m54
@@BORtheGreat pref e39 had single vanos. E46 only existed with dual vanos.
@@DailyDrivenClasssics true, I was wrong about E46, because I didn't have it 😉
@@BORtheGreat :) no worries
Cracking mounts of the rear axle on e36? I thought it was an issue on the e46 only.
also e36s.. sadly
E30 too
My man. German engineering seal of quality....
you need to replace the real axle rubber pads and people didnt do it, every 150k miles, and front silenblocks too
Keep it up brother amazing content 😊
Thanks Ali! Waiting for you here!
very interested in the roll cage!!
what brand/model of the roll cage?
This was custom built just for this car, but you can also check AST-rollcages, very good precut and prebend cages - so only welding is left to be done.
I wouldn´t give my E36 away for anything, even bought an additional 325i convertible last year because i got my coupe where i want it pretty much, so obviously needed another project. 😅
You literally can do everything on it yourself, my coupe hasn´t seen a shop/garage since 2016, it´s so simple to maintain or update parts.
Old beemers are just better! 😁👍
Great video! What wheels are those?
Motec mcr1, 8x17 et29
Bad ass video! Looks.. I agree with the rear spoiler.. but it would be 4.5/5!
Excellent video I have a 1996 328i. And a 2006 e90 manual transmission.
I'm absolutely torn between the two. I build my cars to daily drive and the E90 obviously has a little bit better amenities.
But I have not had the chance to track either one😢
Just keep e36 as it is - it will still give you smiles. And build e90 as a track car 👍
e36 interior is its downfall. e90 can weigh 1000 pounds more depending on options. Having flogged bolth cars, the e36 is worlds ahead on a track imo as long as its got decent power. i would guess a e36 can keep up with a e90 that has 100 extra w.h.p. The e36 with a iron block can do hundreds of thousands of hard miles with basic repairs. I have yet to see a e90 that does not require lots of service, even with basic use. Diffferent era cars. 90s cars were the last to be "built to last" , 2000 cars became more expendable. Open deck aluminum blocks are not my favorite for track cars. plus the e36 parts cost penuts compared to the e90. ( my roomate has 2 e90's )
@@drewdavis239 super valuable information. Thank you. Running costs is a very valid point. The E90 has 2 disas and they are $300 a piece.... But the damn interior and windows on the e36 are so gawd dang frustrating 🤣 I've owned 2 now and FML with those windows and door panels.
Glad I have 2 both sedan 93 325i and a 98 328i not interested in track use rather drive it daily 🚙🚙🚙🚙
Thank you for this awesome content. Is this car available for rent?
Unfortunately not, its available for sale
Why don't E36 owners go turbo versus S54, would it not be cheaper?
The S54 is a very simple swap, probably easier than building turbo manifolds and plumbing them in and tuning it. Also the S54 is lighter, at least in the US as the M54/S54 engines were the first aluminum block inline sixes sold here. The M50/M52 and S50/S52 sold in the US had cast iron blocks due to the high sulfur in our gasoline back then.
I've seen people do superchargers in e36s, not too often do you see a turbo.
What wheels?
Motec MCR-1 8x17
Can you also please do some content on your Golfs?
Sure! Will do reviews of F30 and GTI during March/April. And in case You or anyone has any ideas for videos which would be interesting - please share!
Can I ask you about price?
Sold :(
Is the 2.8 engine better than the 2.5?
Because of more cc its more powerful, but apart engine block, crankshaft and pistons - all other parts are identical between 2.5 and 2.8. So both are equally same. Just not for all racing series it is allowed to drive with 2.8 because classes are usually up to 2500cc
No replacement for displacement. In stock form it makes same horsepower, but more torque, however at the cost of a less rev happy engine that feels less angry, but still definitely faster. With a tune and M50 manifold from the 2.5 you make 220hp, getting the angriness of the 2.5 while making a lot more power than it
2.8 is better imo as long as its a iron block. (euro 2.8 is usually aluminum block) The valve train is the limiting factor so they rev the same. lots of solid lifter m52b28 cars spinning it over 8000rpm. 2.8 has 84mm pistons and 84mm stroke. the 2.5 has 84mm pistons and 75mm stroke. fwiw the rods and pistons are the same between a m50 and a m52. I read a m50tu has 140mm rods where all the other m5x engines use 135mm rods.( only one i have not rebuilt so idk?) the 2.8 feels the smoothest of them all, other than a us spec "s50" thats just a m50 with 86mm pistons and 86mm crank.( square) The m50 is "under square" with less stroke than piston width.(2.5) The 2.8 is "square" where they are equal bore and stroke. m54b30 cars are over square where the piston goes up and down further creating more piston speed and side wall loading. (a.k.a. high miles=oval bores) m54b30 is 84mm pistons 89.6 stroke.
we never got the real euro s50 in north America. the s54 did come here, and has the highest piston speeds of them all (91mm stroke) an amazing race engine, just more complicated than a m50 based car, requires a lot more up keep. aluminum block engines cant take the same abuse as iron, probably why the s54 was iron as well.
@drewdavis239 thankyou for sharing your knowledge 🙌
hello 800 for e36 and we can smoke from me?
Keep and do this, i like 😅
Hahha i have a calypso sedan with s50b32 👍👍
Jau gailiuosi, kad su E36 išsiskyriau :D
or 328i
LET MISHA DRIVE IT
20-30K€ what a joke.....thats an 5k car not more!