You make among the best videos: your voice is clear, the pace (audio and images) is correct, always referring to real world usage (like the ibis for walking...) and you do not pretend to be the main subject of the video (it is rare to see you on your videos). The Hybrid Shooter, what else? Thank you
I switched from a Sony A600 to a Panasonic GX85 and haven't looked back. The ONLY thing the Sony A6xxx series was better was the grip, it's the only thing I miss - the Panasonic grip is OK but the Sony grip was better to use. Overall, with he Panasonic I have a better, more affordable lens choice which is the most important thing.
*Also take a look at my Panasonic GX9 Review* in Sardinia, Italy - bit.ly/PanasonicGX9review *Pictures were edited in Lumiar 2018* -bit.ly/Luminar2018update
Excellent comparison. As a G85 and GX85 owner with many Panasonic lenses (but not the P20mm) I look forward to your review of the Panasonic prime lenses as suggested in this video.
Thank you for this video. I have watched it several times. Today I received a GX9with the kit lens. I have the PL 15 and PL12-60mm lens too. I enjoy street photography and will use the GX9 with the PL15mm lens. I looked at the Olympus 17mm pro lens because I prefer that focal length. The Oly is bigger, heavier, and more expensive than the PL15mm lens. So I purchased the PL15mm lens. This is as close as I will get to owning a Leica camera. Of course, I am a little disappointed the Panasonic has no audio in jack. It would be nice to have as the video looks so good. I am a photographer vs. a videographer but intend to do some hybrid. As a street photographer the size and weight are perfect. Not mentioned in your review, I LOVE the L monochrome D setting. My favorite B&W simulation. It is very contrasty and crushes the blacks. Charging the battery now. Ordered some replacement batteries and an additional charger. Can’t wait to hit the streets with my GX9. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I owned many Sony and even more Panasonic cameras. Tested out most of the current available models. Sold all Sonys, kept most of the Panasonic. After all, I really prefer Panasonic cameras overall. Sporadically, the Sony cameras have an edge in some specs. But that doesn't outweigh the user experience at all. As mentioned in this video, Panasonic is much more user-friendly. I even owned the recent Sony ZV E1 (Full Frame with the praised A7Siii sensor) and decided to stay on mFT with my G9, GX9 and GX800. I dont have any issues with the AF. It's not as perfect as Sony AF, but totally usable. There are so many reasons I prefer mFT over the other sensors. Especially since Panasonic brought the 9 mm 1.7, which I always use for video. Overall, from my perspective, I think you took the right choice.
I have had Sony and Panasonic cameras, I currently have the A6500, I recently sold the GX8 and although the sensor of the A6500 is better, I prefer Panasonic cameras, they handle the color better, the menu is superior and I feel they are better designed cameras for user comfort (I have used them more in still photo than in video). Where I see an advantaje for A6599 is in the video, the GX8 share the GH5 sensor but this is limited for video. I dont know if in the GX9 the theme of the video will have improvements with respect to GX8 and if this is near to the A6500 video capacities.
Two years after this video, would the GX9 still be something to consider? Or have other cameras passed it by? What current camera(s) would you consider over it? Thinking the a6600/A7C, or one of the recent Fuji's (X-S10 primarily). I'm looking for something similar but think there are probably better cameras if you spend a little more money.
The new X-E4 seem like the best replacement of GX9, but it doesn't have IBIS. X-S10 is also a better camera with IBIS, A7C as well, I have made a review of both on this channel.
Thanks.. After shopping around for sometime, I really think what I mention.. Paying more to get other RF like Fuji GFX50R XE3 or Leica M/Q may get diminishing return for most non-pro people.. Paying less to get GX85, M6, or A6000 may have outdated sensor or features or older UI.. So, GX9 is just sweet spot for RF now, both still and VDO, IMHO.. I am waiting if any manufacture will make FF MLR RF style in the future.. Hopefull Pana will make one, S1X..
Depends on preferences, G9 has better sensor but G85 has better handling. AF on GX9 and G85 is better in comparison with GX85 and G7 but still not the best out there.
Just bought the G9. been extensively watching your videos. I really wanted the GH5 but theres an extra 400+ tag on it. How well do you think the G9 will do for videos? esp with the recording limit. I chose it over the A6500 because of the LCD, ergonomics, 4k 60fps, better battery life and no known overheat issues.
I really like the GX9 but I have not bought one. On another note. I am wondering if there will be a Sony ASP-C sensor a7000 that is sized / designed like the Panasonic G9 and Fuji X-H1.
Thank you for the good videos. Always love to check your reviews. I'm a g80 owner myself, and love to see some love for the m43. I also like the 4:3 from the Panasonic. Mostly because i show most of my photos on a iPad.
Hello could you please help me by telling me if you tried to plug somthing into hdmi port and if yes what happends to the gx9's screen ? does it still keep or go black
In the IBIS video test from minute 9:30 is incredible to see also the shapness difference between these two cameras in FHD in favor to the GX9! May be a lens quality related to this difference?
@@akushon_kamen I have tried an A6300 in video FHD and the quality is really poor, independent of the lens used. I hope that SONY has improved this problem in the new A6400.
So will the gx9 out perform a t5i crop sensor in low light? (T5i is my current camera) I do want a full frame but I don’t want to shill out 2k for the a7c. I shoot mainly landscapes, some portraits and car photography. Should i get Fuji film with xtrans sensor. So many options ahhhh.
UA-cam didn't generate automatic subtitles for some reason and I don't know whether it can be afterwards, so there probably won't be English subtitles for this video, sorry about that.
Another excellent comparison. I only take one issue. It’s not a crop sensor if the lens and sensor are a match. What is cropped about it? When you fit an aps-c lens onto a M43 camera, that’s a crop. No one calls the sensor in a smartphone a crop sensor. Just my thoughts.
Technically, there is no such thing as a crop or FF lens. There are lenses designed to work best with the APSC or M43 sensor and will heavily vignette if used with FF. But focal length is expressed in relation to FF measurements. However, crop sensor is industry lingo for sensors with a crop factor of >1.0 (ie. smaller than FF).
good work... Now my problem: GX9 or LX100 II ? I have Oly Pen EL 5 with Lumix 20/1.7 II to use on any of them, I hope, right? Now to get 12-60 or 45/1.8? /20mm on one body and 45mm or zoom on second one/
Any comparison of Zeiss 16-70 vs. Leica 12-60 / resp. Pana 12-35 2.8? Would be curious to see these lenses side-by-side on A6500 and GX9. And what would be your choice for travel photo / documentary video and as allround camera? Thank you
I have never used 16-70, so I unfortunately can't compare those. It comes down to the preferences, both have different advantages, but if you intend to shoot a lot of vide, A6500 will probably be better choice.
Very well done - as always. Deep insight to decide, which is the better one for someone. I own A6500 and GX8 (which I think is better in "alldayusability" (fully tilting display and so on). My heart is with the GX8 (sympathic) - my head with the A6500 (better picture Quality). From GX8 to 9 it is a Little backstep...only MY opinion...
Skvelé video, tiež som z SK :) mohol by som vás spýtať na tvoj názor? uvažujem o kúpe nového fotaku a rozhodujem sa medzi Canon M50 s objektivmy 15-45 + 22 f.2 - cca 850, Panasonic GX9 s objektivmy 20 f1.7, 12-60 - cca 950, myslím, že video je asi naj u panasonicu, no zaujimalo by ma, ktory by ste mi skôr odporučil a tiež aká je kvalita fotografii medzi tymito fotakmi, ak budem pouzivat iba objektivy vyssie. Vopred dakujem za odpoved
Ďakujem pekne, z tých dvoch jednoznačne odporúčam GX9, kvalita fotografií bude lepšia na GX9, Canon v podstate pri vyššom ISO ani nie je o moc lepší, 12-60 je taktiež omnoho lepší objektív ako Canon 15-45.
@@TheHybridShooter Ešte raz ďakujem, aj som tipoval že gx9 je na tom s novým snímačom celkom dobre, vezmem ten, škoda len že nema port na mikrofon ako M50,
So glad you made this video! I literally went camera shopping today and am trying to decide between these two, along with the Fujifilm X-T20. I have been testing the GX9 for a week and I love it - Idk why it's not more popular. But the a6500 is so sharp and fast, maybe I need that one to get sharp images of birds flying during sunset and stuff like that... I don't shoot much video these days, but I want to... And if the stabilization and screen aren't so good, maybe the a6300 is a good option?? Man, it's so hard to choose! I shoot mostly landscapes and architecture. Sharpness and portability are my biggest concerns. I'm still not sure...
@@TheHybridShooter Dear Hybrid shooter, having watched a lot of reviews I have to say yours look the most honest and unbiased ones. Also you seem to approach the cameras more from a real life perspective. As you do have both the A6500 and GX9 let me ask what your impression on low light focusing is with identical lenses on both? A lot of people just tend to put it off with mentioning the A6500 has PDAF, which is true but does actually not ha e to mean necessarily better/faster/more accurate. Having the A6500, in low light it seems to hunt sometimes quite a while with the Sigma 56mm. Have tried the same lens on the M10 III focus appeared faster to me, but this camera is of course not the GX9. Would be happy if you`d comment on this lowlight AF capability of the A6500 compared to GX9 as I am really thinking of jumping ship as the GX9 just looks extremely appealing. Thanks
Hey I’m a little late to this vid but I’m trying to decide between a Sony a6500 and a lumix g9. I do mainly video and will be using either the 10-18 on the Sony or the 8-18mm on the Lumix. Which do you recommend for overall better video when it comes to lowlight and daylight?
The Hybrid Shooter I have a gimbal so the ibis isn’t a huge deal. I saw something to where there’s a distortion with the 8-18 in the corners when the camera is shaken a little, is that true? Thanks for replying
Using gimbal is much less convenient, having great IBIS will save you a lot of time. Yes, that is truth, but it saw corrected by FW update and it only happens at 8mm because the IBIS is "too effective" so it looks unnatural.
@@TheHybridShooter I want both now because I was going to get the A7iii but I figured I could get both of these now for the price of one A7iii. Being that they are two different camera brands, do you think I still could use one as a main camera and the other as a B camera for shooting documentaries? Or should I get two same branded cameras?
That is quite difficult question, having different systems that both advantages and disadvantages, Sony full frame and M43 are good complements, but I would say that APS-C and M43 are too close.
@@TheHybridShooter Ok. Sorry to keep bothering you but if you had $2500. Would you get the Sony A7iii or would you get the G9 and the A6500? I want a camera for UA-cam videos, short documentaries and interviews. They all seem like a great choice though. I want a camera that I can keep for at least two years without worrying about upgrading. The A6500 just ages so gracefully and it seems will always be a good camera.
@@joshdiditt I would either get the the G9 or A7 III. A6500 is still a great camera, but the lens selection is not that great. I will also make a review of X-T3 this week, that is valid option as well.
I just bought the previous model as a second camera. The Panasonic GX80 in June 2019 lol. It's 340 euros with a kit lens in my country nowadays. I find this to be scandalously low price for such a capable camera :) But for the particular comparison in the video - I would take the Panasonic, mainly because of easier handling and better lens selection. I really like the APS-C bodies of Sony, but they seemingly refuse to make proper lenses for them.
GX80 is a great little camera the gx9 has virtually no advantages it is heavier has a swivel viefinder which is not needed and if you can tell the difference in image quality in a side by side i would be suprised as i have owned both cameras and prefered the gx80 handling and weight i also owned the gx8 bigger heavier but still nice all the same gx80 is best street camera in the mft line in my opinion except in low light then the gx9 is better in this regard also forget long exposures unless you like snow in your photos.
@bastian.michel vor 49 Sekunden I owned many Sony and even more Panasonic cameras. Tested out most of the current available models. Sold all Sonys, kept most of the Panasonic. After all, I really prefer Panasonic cameras overall. Sporadically, the Sony cameras have an edge in some specs. But that doesn't outweigh the user experience at all. As mentioned in this video, Panasonic is much more user-friendly. I even owned the recent Sony ZV E1 (Full Frame with the praised A7Siii sensor) and decided to stay on mFT with my G9, GX9 and GX800. I dont have any issues with the AF. It's not as perfect as Sony AF, but totally usable. There are so many reasons I prefer mFT over the other sensors. Especially since Panasonic brought the 9 mm 1.7, which I always use for video. Overall, from my perspective, I think you took the right choice. (comment copied from above because also applies to your comment)
Im looking for a good camera to film my first documentary:)) is the g9 better or the sony A6000( which is not mentioned here but maybe some of you know:)
Hey bro! very nice video! I'm doubting to buy one of these two cameras. I like both photo & video, but I'm gonna shot a little more video. What do you recomend? Thanks!
Great comparison. I feel if the A6500 would have a decent 17-55 f2.8 zoom for travel it could be more competitive than the GX9. Anyway both great options. Does the Panasonic allow exposure compensation in M mode with Auto ISO? I like the substance rather than clickbait, and actual images rather than narcissistic video selfies of your review. Too many on UA-cam show their faces 90% of the whole time, rather than showing the places they get to see.
Thank you, I also prefer seeing the product instead of someones face. F2.8 zoom would threaten Sony's full frame line, so I don't expect that one to be released. Yes, exposure comp. woks in M with auto ISO.
@@TheHybridShooter I was hoping Tamron or Sigma would make an APS E mount version of the 28-75mm or 18-35, or something in between. For travel I really can skip full frame. Although I am wondering if an old A7 with Tamron 28-75 may be a lightweight great option for travel if shooting non fast moving subjects.
Not your requested 17-55/2.8, but the 16-70/4Z pairs well with the a6500 to provide a very useful walkaround zoom range, and as it's designed for APS-C, it's quite compact. It's one of the lenses I have for when I want a smaller option than my usual FF kit.
@@AdamHouston I actually have it. It is good, not great. The sigma 18-35 mm with mc-11 adapter produces way better results to my eyes. But it is bulky and not very handy
stefano giovannini, for me the 16-70/4Z is an acceptable compromise on IQ vs size & convenience. From reports, the Σ18-35 may be better, but, as you've noted, the price is bulk. As soon as my small system starts to get bulky, it fails its purpose *for me* and I'll decide to use my α99ii with its bigger faster lenses. FWIW, I also have a preference on APS-C for a 16-xx zoom rather than an 18-xx zoom as the wide end is more important *to me* than the long end when I travel.
Well I think sometimes I will, the a6000 is great little camera, too bad to sell it, I want to keep it forever as my first ever mirrorless camera 📷 it can be a great reminder how the revolution started 🙂
If you use prime lenses it is great to have 2 cameras with different lenses. If you sell the A6000 you would get not so much and using it as a backup is worth more than the money.
PS also A6000 + a6500 are small enough to fit in a small bag. 2 cameras with 2 primes, less chances to drop a lens or get dust on the sensor during a lens switch. Wide on 1, normal or portrait lens on the other. A6000 still takes very good photos A6500/A6300 better for fast subjects. Probably selling a A6000 would get you 300 EUR / USD after fees.
Coming from a gx7, is the gx7 worth the trouble of selling it for an upgrade?, I do both video and photos, and in thinking whereas if moving to the gx7 is a good idea, or switching to Fuji
I'm trying to decide between these. The A6500 is far more expensive and so are lenses... I can afford a GX9 or an A6300. I primarily shoot video but want to take stills too. I'm a mountain biker and want a compact camera to take on trails for videos and photos along the way. Since the A6500 is too expensive, I'd be stuck with a non IBIS A6300. The crappy stabilization on the Sony worries me. If it weren't for that, I'd go for the Sony. What would you recommend? Is the Sony really that much better for video even with worse stabilization?
Hey, man, thanks for the great vid! Can you please tell me, which camera and lens were used to take photos of these two? Thx in advance. P.s. Subscribed for more great vids from you, keep up good work. ;)
Why refer to these cameras as rangefinder... Ok, they're not SLR but rangefinder refers to a window that does not look through the lens both these cameras do... ?
@@TheHybridShooter We appreciate your Dedication to your subscribers. You haven't led us astray in the name a the almighty dollar. We're with you all the way!
These are technically compact system cameras, not rangefinders. The Fuji X Pro 1 is a rangefinder. Anything roughly the same shape is getting wrongly named
I don't think I'll ever find a camera for me. lol. Honestly...if the GX9 had a mic port it would be the closest to perfect for me. If the A6300/A6400/A6500 lineup had touch screen for the menu, post focus, 4k burst mode etc like Panasonic it would be perfect for me. The search continues.
Very nice video, but I believe there is one thing missing that could be a deal breaker for some. Sony 6500 is specified as 'Weather sealed'. Owner of none.
Panasonic pictures Looks Premium its got that classy Looks to. Its like a battle between Audi (Panasonic) vs Toyota( SONY) both made in JAPAN. 🤪 my vote is Panasonic
I stepped over on the sony a6500 a while ago and it was the worst shooting experience ever. It sucked all the fun of shooting out of it. Sold it within 5 months.
The average person has never seen a real rangefinder camera. And neither the Panasonic or Sony cameras are rangefinder. What is the purpose of this video. If it is to compare two cameras that have viewfinders on one edge then OK. BTW, the rangefinder focusing system was not so hot.
@@TheHybridShooter Yes, I finally get it. My brain was unable to figure out how a crop sensor APS-C system would enable a rangefinder type of focusing. On-sensor autofocus is light years better than rangefinder. I don't see how placing the EVF to the left side, emulating the rangefinder design, does any good.
@@TheHybridShooter This is poppycock! It is quite natural to put the EVF on the left when the shutter is on the right. A true rangefinder focusing mechanism may have allowed smaller designs back in the day. But in 2018, it has no meaning.
@@titaniumsandwedge It has the same meaning today, if the viewfinder is place in the corner you don't hump on the top of the camera to accommodate viewfinder.
You make among the best videos: your voice is clear, the pace (audio and images) is correct, always referring to real world usage (like the ibis for walking...) and you do not pretend to be the main subject of the video (it is rare to see you on your videos). The Hybrid Shooter, what else? Thank you
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
Four years later, this is really useful looking at these two cameras as options for my next camera. Thanks!
I switched from a Sony A600 to a Panasonic GX85 and haven't looked back. The ONLY thing the Sony A6xxx series was better was the grip, it's the only thing I miss - the Panasonic grip is OK but the Sony grip was better to use. Overall, with he Panasonic I have a better, more affordable lens choice which is the most important thing.
*Also take a look at my Panasonic GX9 Review* in Sardinia, Italy - bit.ly/PanasonicGX9review
*Pictures were edited in Lumiar 2018* -bit.ly/Luminar2018update
Excellent comparison.
As a G85 and GX85 owner with many Panasonic lenses (but not the P20mm) I look forward to your review of the Panasonic prime lenses as suggested in this video.
Thank you, I will review a lot of Panasonic lenses in upcoming weeks.
@@TheHybridShooter pick up a 15mm 1.7 ! I love that lens
Thank you for this video. I have watched it several times.
Today I received a GX9with the kit lens. I have the PL 15 and PL12-60mm lens too. I enjoy street photography and will use the GX9 with the PL15mm lens. I looked at the Olympus 17mm pro lens because I prefer that focal length. The Oly is bigger, heavier, and more expensive than the PL15mm lens. So I purchased the PL15mm lens. This is as close as I will get to owning a Leica camera.
Of course, I am a little disappointed the Panasonic has no audio in jack. It would be nice to have as the video looks so good. I am a photographer vs. a videographer but intend to do some hybrid. As a street photographer the size and weight are perfect. Not mentioned in your review, I LOVE the L monochrome D setting. My favorite B&W simulation. It is very contrasty and crushes the blacks.
Charging the battery now. Ordered some replacement batteries and an additional charger. Can’t wait to hit the streets with my GX9.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I owned many Sony and even more Panasonic cameras. Tested out most of the current available models. Sold all Sonys, kept most of the Panasonic. After all, I really prefer Panasonic cameras overall. Sporadically, the Sony cameras have an edge in some specs. But that doesn't outweigh the user experience at all. As mentioned in this video, Panasonic is much more user-friendly. I even owned the recent Sony ZV E1 (Full Frame with the praised A7Siii sensor) and decided to stay on mFT with my G9, GX9 and GX800. I dont have any issues with the AF. It's not as perfect as Sony AF, but totally usable. There are so many reasons I prefer mFT over the other sensors. Especially since Panasonic brought the 9 mm 1.7, which I always use for video.
Overall, from my perspective, I think you took the right choice.
Agreed with previous commentary; I like your in depth, unbiased reviews more than any other channel.
Thank you!
Great comparison , a6300 user here and i love it. i enjoy the format of your videos keep up the stellar work my friend!
Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!
I have had Sony and Panasonic cameras, I currently have the A6500, I recently sold the GX8 and although the sensor of the A6500 is better, I prefer Panasonic cameras, they handle the color better, the menu is superior and I feel they are better designed cameras for user comfort (I have used them more in still photo than in video). Where I see an advantaje for A6599 is in the video, the GX8 share the GH5 sensor but this is limited for video. I dont know if in the GX9 the theme of the video will have improvements with respect to GX8 and if this is near to the A6500 video capacities.
GX9 is an update for GX85 @ GX80 not GX8. Kinda weird but yeah that what Panasonic do
I'm so torn between the GX9 and the a6300. The a6500 + a decent lens is just too expensive for me :(
Probably depends on how much video you shoot.
Your reviews are excellent. Thank you for taking the time to make these.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
That camera is tempting to buy in comparison to Olympus. One flaw I see with it is the tripod mount location. Great video.
Thank you!
Two years after this video, would the GX9 still be something to consider? Or have other cameras passed it by? What current camera(s) would you consider over it? Thinking the a6600/A7C, or one of the recent Fuji's (X-S10 primarily). I'm looking for something similar but think there are probably better cameras if you spend a little more money.
The new X-E4 seem like the best replacement of GX9, but it doesn't have IBIS. X-S10 is also a better camera with IBIS, A7C as well, I have made a review of both on this channel.
@@TheHybridShooter Awesome, and thanks! You'd pick any of those over the GX9 at this point in time I take it?
@@mark3431 I would pick any of them over GX9 at the moment.
@@TheHybridShooter How about Nikon Z50? Would you consider it over GX9 now? Thanks!!!
@@davidchok2025 No, Sony A6400 and Fuji X-S10 / X-E4 are much better options with better APS-C lens selection.
GX9 is the overall best-feature and most-fun-to-use rangefinder camera right now.. IMHO
In the affordable range it probably is.
Thanks.. After shopping around for sometime, I really think what I mention.. Paying more to get other RF like Fuji GFX50R XE3 or Leica M/Q may get diminishing return for most non-pro people.. Paying less to get GX85, M6, or A6000 may have outdated sensor or features or older UI.. So, GX9 is just sweet spot for RF now, both still and VDO, IMHO.. I am waiting if any manufacture will make FF MLR RF style in the future.. Hopefull Pana will make one, S1X..
Fantastic comparison. Thanks for creating.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
The images on the panasonic look better...Is it due to the lens?
Hello! Great comparison 😊☀️👏! Which metering option did you use when you shooted the image appeared at 4:37?
Which is better between lumix gx9 and g85 for taking photos? Do they have better af tracking than their predecessors?
Depends on preferences, G9 has better sensor but G85 has better handling. AF on GX9 and G85 is better in comparison with GX85 and G7 but still not the best out there.
I found your video very informative and not boring at all. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
Just bought the G9. been extensively watching your videos. I really wanted the GH5 but theres an extra 400+ tag on it. How well do you think the G9 will do for videos? esp with the recording limit. I chose it over the A6500 because of the LCD, ergonomics, 4k 60fps, better battery life and no known overheat issues.
G9 is also very good for video, especially if you don't intend to use futures like V-log or 10-bit recording.
gx8, gx85 and gx9 hold their own value pretty well until now, while a6500 is still clouded by A6300 and A6400.
A6500 has been succeeded by A6600 and A6700, unlike the GX9 which didn’t get a successor.
I really like the GX9 but I have not bought one. On another note. I am wondering if there will be a Sony ASP-C sensor a7000 that is sized / designed like the Panasonic G9 and Fuji X-H1.
I unfortunately don't know that, but expect it to be larger than A6500.
Thank you for the good videos. Always love to check your reviews.
I'm a g80 owner myself, and love to see some love for the m43.
I also like the 4:3 from the Panasonic. Mostly because i show most of my photos on a iPad.
You're welcome, I'm glad that you like my videos!
Hello could you please help me by telling me if you tried to plug somthing into hdmi port and if yes what happends to the gx9's screen ? does it still keep or go black
In the IBIS video test from minute 9:30 is incredible to see also the shapness difference between these two cameras in FHD in favor to the GX9! May be a lens quality related to this difference?
Perhaps, different lense different result
@@akushon_kamen I have tried an A6300 in video FHD and the quality is really poor, independent of the lens used. I hope that SONY has improved this problem in the new A6400.
So will the gx9 out perform a t5i crop sensor in low light? (T5i is my current camera) I do want a full frame but I don’t want to shill out 2k for the a7c. I shoot mainly landscapes, some portraits and car photography. Should i get Fuji film with xtrans sensor. So many options ahhhh.
what about the fujifilm x-pro2 or x-e3?
I haven't tested those yet.
Automatic subtitles only in Portugese, could be possible to switch to english?
UA-cam didn't generate automatic subtitles for some reason and I don't know whether it can be afterwards, so there probably won't be English subtitles for this video, sorry about that.
@@TheHybridShooter Sad but true, I'm afraid. Thanks anyway.
Another excellent comparison. I only take one issue. It’s not a crop sensor if the lens and sensor are a match. What is cropped about it? When you fit an aps-c lens onto a M43 camera, that’s a crop. No one calls the sensor in a smartphone a crop sensor. Just my thoughts.
Thank you, that is just commonly accepted terminology, it is smaller than full frame, it is called crop sensor...
Technically, there is no such thing as a crop or FF lens. There are lenses designed to work best with the APSC or M43 sensor and will heavily vignette if used with FF. But focal length is expressed in relation to FF measurements.
However, crop sensor is industry lingo for sensors with a crop factor of >1.0 (ie. smaller than FF).
Not really, focal length is just physical parameter, it has nothing to do with full frame sensor size.
good work... Now my problem: GX9 or LX100 II ? I have Oly Pen EL 5 with Lumix 20/1.7 II to use on any of them, I hope, right? Now to get 12-60 or 45/1.8? /20mm on one body and 45mm or zoom on second one/
I will make a comparison between GX9 and LX100 II soon.
What about color sience and log profiles for video? I love Panasonic cameras but the mid cameras dont have that and thats really missing.
I have covered color science in this video, GX9 is not primarily intended for video as I have said, so there is no log.
Great video again! Are you going to test the new firmware updates for G9, GH5 and GH5s? Would be helpfull, thanks
Thank you, I will try to find some time to do that.
Any comparison of Zeiss 16-70 vs. Leica 12-60 / resp. Pana 12-35 2.8? Would be curious to see these lenses side-by-side on A6500 and GX9. And what would be your choice for travel photo / documentary video and as allround camera? Thank you
I have never used 16-70, so I unfortunately can't compare those. It comes down to the preferences, both have different advantages, but if you intend to shoot a lot of vide, A6500 will probably be better choice.
Do you have a video where you show what rig you use at minute 6:44 of the video
Yes, here it is: bit.ly/A6500rig
Very well done - as always. Deep insight to decide, which is the better one for someone. I own A6500 and GX8 (which I think is better in "alldayusability" (fully tilting display and so on). My heart is with the GX8 (sympathic) - my head with the A6500 (better picture Quality). From GX8 to 9 it is a Little backstep...only MY opinion...
Thank you, GX9 is generally different package as the GX8 which is indeed more universal camera.
Skvelé video, tiež som z SK :) mohol by som vás spýtať na tvoj názor? uvažujem o kúpe nového fotaku a rozhodujem sa medzi Canon M50 s objektivmy 15-45 + 22 f.2 - cca 850, Panasonic GX9 s objektivmy 20 f1.7, 12-60 - cca 950, myslím, že video je asi naj u panasonicu, no zaujimalo by ma, ktory by ste mi skôr odporučil a tiež aká je kvalita fotografii medzi tymito fotakmi, ak budem pouzivat iba objektivy vyssie. Vopred dakujem za odpoved
Ďakujem pekne, z tých dvoch jednoznačne odporúčam GX9, kvalita fotografií bude lepšia na GX9, Canon v podstate pri vyššom ISO ani nie je o moc lepší, 12-60 je taktiež omnoho lepší objektív ako Canon 15-45.
@@TheHybridShooter Ešte raz ďakujem, aj som tipoval že gx9 je na tom s novým snímačom celkom dobre, vezmem ten, škoda len že nema port na mikrofon ako M50,
To bohužiaľ nemá, na to treba G85 alebo niektorí z high-endov.
Hi Mate, Your review is exellent. It's simple, short but is everything what we need to know
I really like what you are doing. Keep going and good luck
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback! Will do my best to keep it up.
15:41 what a gorgeous shot! Where is this location?
Thank you, that is Bali, Indonesia.
great as always, your videos are a pleasure to watch and learn.
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
So glad you made this video! I literally went camera shopping today and am trying to decide between these two, along with the Fujifilm X-T20. I have been testing the GX9 for a week and I love it - Idk why it's not more popular. But the a6500 is so sharp and fast, maybe I need that one to get sharp images of birds flying during sunset and stuff like that... I don't shoot much video these days, but I want to... And if the stabilization and screen aren't so good, maybe the a6300 is a good option?? Man, it's so hard to choose! I shoot mostly landscapes and architecture. Sharpness and portability are my biggest concerns. I'm still not sure...
As I have said, it depends on your preferences, both have different strengths.
I'll add my voice to the positive comments you have received. Your video is informative, logically presented, and avoids buffoonery. Very well done!
Thank you, I appreciate your positive feedback!
Interesting comparison. I have a question and it is which camera is better a Sony Nex 6 or the Panasonic GX9 ? Thanks
Panasonic GX9, it is much newer.
Good review of 2 fine cameras. Did the A6500 have a plastic protector film covering the live view monitor? That would lower the performance.
Yes, but it actually improves outdoors visibility.
Great video. The only thing that didn't convince me of the camera is the viewfinder.
With which electronic viewfinder we could compare it? Thank you.
Thank you, there isn't anything that I could compare it to.
@@TheHybridShooter Dear Hybrid shooter, having watched a lot of reviews I have to say yours look the most honest and unbiased ones. Also you seem to approach the cameras more from a real life perspective.
As you do have both the A6500 and GX9 let me ask what your impression on low light focusing is with identical lenses on both? A lot of people just tend to put it off with mentioning the A6500 has PDAF, which is true but does actually not ha e to mean necessarily better/faster/more accurate.
Having the A6500, in low light it seems to hunt sometimes quite a while with the Sigma 56mm.
Have tried the same lens on the M10 III focus appeared faster to me, but this camera is of course not the GX9.
Would be happy if you`d comment on this lowlight AF capability of the A6500 compared to GX9 as I am really thinking of jumping ship as the GX9 just looks extremely appealing.
Thanks
Hey I’m a little late to this vid but I’m trying to decide between a Sony a6500 and a lumix g9. I do mainly video and will be using either the 10-18 on the Sony or the 8-18mm on the Lumix. Which do you recommend for overall better video when it comes to lowlight and daylight?
I would probably go with the G9 because of the IBIS and better handling. Leica 8-18 is also much better lens than Sony 10-18.
The Hybrid Shooter I have a gimbal so the ibis isn’t a huge deal. I saw something to where there’s a distortion with the 8-18 in the corners when the camera is shaken a little, is that true? Thanks for replying
Using gimbal is much less convenient, having great IBIS will save you a lot of time. Yes, that is truth, but it saw corrected by FW update and it only happens at 8mm because the IBIS is "too effective" so it looks unnatural.
The Hybrid Shooter ok cool man! I think you sold me on the g9!
Thanks for your video! If you will choose between gx9 and g100, what choice will you make?
Definitely GX9.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks for your response!
Which brand has the cheapest variety of lenses? I don't need a super sharp result, it's more fun to playing with more lenses with a base price..
Definitely Panasonic.
@@TheHybridShooter thank you for your help.. 😊
You're welcome!
Panasonic without a doubt!
Micro Four Thirds easily, Panasonic or Olympus
Can you save preferred settings on the a6500 so you can just switch to it and start recording?
Yes, you can save those to one of custom modes.
@@TheHybridShooter I want both now because I was going to get the A7iii but I figured I could get both of these now for the price of one A7iii. Being that they are two different camera brands, do you think I still could use one as a main camera and the other as a B camera for shooting documentaries? Or should I get two same branded cameras?
That is quite difficult question, having different systems that both advantages and disadvantages, Sony full frame and M43 are good complements, but I would say that APS-C and M43 are too close.
@@TheHybridShooter Ok. Sorry to keep bothering you but if you had $2500. Would you get the Sony A7iii or would you get the G9 and the A6500? I want a camera for UA-cam videos, short documentaries and interviews. They all seem like a great choice though. I want a camera that I can keep for at least two years without worrying about upgrading. The A6500 just ages so gracefully and it seems will always be a good camera.
@@joshdiditt I would either get the the G9 or A7 III. A6500 is still a great camera, but the lens selection is not that great. I will also make a review of X-T3 this week, that is valid option as well.
Thanks for the review. Very comprehensive and extremely helpful to me in deciding which camera will suit my needs best
You’re welcome, thank you for watching!
GX9 -> L Monochrome D! Superior monochrome film simulation for JPG shooters.
I just bought the previous model as a second camera. The Panasonic GX80 in June 2019 lol. It's 340 euros with a kit lens in my country nowadays. I find this to be scandalously low price for such a capable camera :) But for the particular comparison in the video - I would take the Panasonic, mainly because of easier handling and better lens selection. I really like the APS-C bodies of Sony, but they seemingly refuse to make proper lenses for them.
Yes, the lack of APC-S lens selection is a disadvantage, but you get a lot of great 3rd party full frame lenses and use those on APS-C.
GX80 is a great little camera the gx9 has virtually no advantages it is heavier has a swivel viefinder which is not needed and if you can tell the difference in image quality in a side by side i would be suprised as i have owned both cameras and prefered the gx80 handling and weight i also owned the gx8 bigger heavier but still nice all the same gx80 is best street camera in the mft line in my opinion except in low light then the gx9 is better in this regard also forget long exposures unless you like snow in your photos.
Not true.
Does it have electronic viewfinder? And live view like the Sony a6500?
Yes, both have electronic viewfinder and live view.
The Hybrid Shooter oh okay thank you so much! What do you think of the gx9 compared to Sony a6300? Is it worth changing cameras?
Both have different advantages, so it depends on what you are looking for.
I have just changed over from a Sony A6400 to a Panasonic GX9, mainly because of out of camera jpeg, user interface IBIS and handlling
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I owned many Sony and even more Panasonic cameras. Tested out most of the current available models. Sold all Sonys, kept most of the Panasonic. After all, I really prefer Panasonic cameras overall. Sporadically, the Sony cameras have an edge in some specs. But that doesn't outweigh the user experience at all. As mentioned in this video, Panasonic is much more user-friendly. I even owned the recent Sony ZV E1 (Full Frame with the praised A7Siii sensor) and decided to stay on mFT with my G9, GX9 and GX800. I dont have any issues with the AF. It's not as perfect as Sony AF, but totally usable. There are so many reasons I prefer mFT over the other sensors. Especially since Panasonic brought the 9 mm 1.7, which I always use for video.
Overall, from my perspective, I think you took the right choice.
(comment copied from above because also applies to your comment)
This video makes me feel better about owning the Gx9 for some time. A fun little camera. If it had a mic input, it would be really, really good!
There is no reason not to feel good about owning GX9, it is a really good camera.
Im looking for a good camera to film my first documentary:)) is the g9 better or the sony A6000( which is not mentioned here but maybe some of you know:)
Hey bro! very nice video! I'm doubting to buy one of these two cameras. I like both photo & video, but I'm gonna shot a little more video. What do you recomend?
Thanks!
If you shoot a lot of video, A6500 will probably be a better choice out of these two.
Great comparison. I feel if the A6500 would have a decent 17-55 f2.8 zoom for travel it could be more competitive than the GX9. Anyway both great options. Does the Panasonic allow exposure compensation in M mode with Auto ISO? I like the substance rather than clickbait, and actual images rather than narcissistic video selfies of your review. Too many on UA-cam show their faces 90% of the whole time, rather than showing the places they get to see.
Thank you, I also prefer seeing the product instead of someones face. F2.8 zoom would threaten Sony's full frame line, so I don't expect that one to be released. Yes, exposure comp. woks in M with auto ISO.
@@TheHybridShooter I was hoping Tamron or Sigma would make an APS E mount version of the 28-75mm or 18-35, or something in between. For travel I really can skip full frame. Although I am wondering if an old A7 with Tamron 28-75 may be a lightweight great option for travel if shooting non fast moving subjects.
Not your requested 17-55/2.8, but the 16-70/4Z pairs well with the a6500 to provide a very useful walkaround zoom range, and as it's designed for APS-C, it's quite compact. It's one of the lenses I have for when I want a smaller option than my usual FF kit.
@@AdamHouston I actually have it. It is good, not great. The sigma 18-35 mm with mc-11 adapter produces way better results to my eyes. But it is bulky and not very handy
stefano giovannini, for me the 16-70/4Z is an acceptable compromise on IQ vs size & convenience. From reports, the Σ18-35 may be better, but, as you've noted, the price is bulk. As soon as my small system starts to get bulky, it fails its purpose *for me* and I'll decide to use my α99ii with its bigger faster lenses.
FWIW, I also have a preference on APS-C for a 16-xx zoom rather than an 18-xx zoom as the wide end is more important *to me* than the long end when I travel.
Thanks for the comparison! Great video
I just ordered the a6500, I own the a6000, do you think I should leave it as b cam ?
Depends on wheather you need to use two cameras at the same or you need backup camera.
Well I think sometimes I will, the a6000 is great little camera, too bad to sell it, I want to keep it forever as my first ever mirrorless camera 📷 it can be a great reminder how the revolution started 🙂
If you use prime lenses it is great to have 2 cameras with different lenses. If you sell the A6000 you would get not so much and using it as a backup is worth more than the money.
PS also A6000 + a6500 are small enough to fit in a small bag. 2 cameras with 2 primes, less chances to drop a lens or get dust on the sensor during a lens switch. Wide on 1, normal or portrait lens on the other. A6000 still takes very good photos A6500/A6300 better for fast subjects. Probably selling a A6000 would get you 300 EUR / USD after fees.
Coming from a gx7, is the gx7 worth the trouble of selling it for an upgrade?, I do both video and photos, and in thinking whereas if moving to the gx7 is a good idea, or switching to Fuji
I would say that it is worth it, it would be significant upgrade.
You shoot on Bali? Nice!
Thank you!
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Amazing video, thank you. I've just chosen my next camera :)
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
abr354 wich one did you choose?
No mic input in Lumix?
No.
Excellent review !
Thank you!
NICE! and if you want most features in a small camera, and love both videos and pictures then choose gx85
Thank you, I would say that GX9 is worth the extra over GX85 especially if you can get it in some bundle.
@@TheHybridShooter hahaa true, but from a budget point of view I believe the Gx85 is worth a shot.
It sure is.
V good video, plz advise me best photo camera for video under 1000$, plz reply.
I'm trying to decide between these. The A6500 is far more expensive and so are lenses...
I can afford a GX9 or an A6300. I primarily shoot video but want to take stills too. I'm a mountain biker and want a compact camera to take on trails for videos and photos along the way. Since the A6500 is too expensive, I'd be stuck with a non IBIS A6300. The crappy stabilization on the Sony worries me. If it weren't for that, I'd go for the Sony.
What would you recommend? Is the Sony really that much better for video even with worse stabilization?
I generally don't recommend GX9 for video. Any Sony A6X00 that you can get will be better for video.
Hey, man, thanks for the great vid! Can you please tell me, which camera and lens were used to take photos of these two? Thx in advance. P.s. Subscribed for more great vids from you, keep up good work. ;)
Thank you, I appreciate your subscription. I used Sony A7 III and Tamron 28-75mm F2.8
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks a lot, bud! :)
GX9 like the majority of Panasonic cameras gives you the best bang for your money IMO.
Depends on you preferences... as always.
@@TheHybridShooter Having used Canon, then sony and now panasonic, I will continue to pick Panasonic. Thank you for your input and great videos
Why refer to these cameras as rangefinder... Ok, they're not SLR but rangefinder refers to a window that does not look through the lens both these cameras do... ?
Because of the shape, I have said in the beginning that these are rangefinder *style* mirrorless cameras.
@@TheHybridShooter Ah ok. Thanks.
Excellent review. Thanks...
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
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Very detailed, thank you.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
gx9 for $400 or 6500 for $798 both body only. Which one is better for shooting video of my child?
Great review, great channel. Honest and incisive as always.
Thank you!
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Sorry is the gx9 can use 100-400mm
These are technically compact system cameras, not rangefinders. The Fuji X Pro 1 is a rangefinder. Anything roughly the same shape is getting wrongly named
That is why I called them rangefinder *style* cameras.
yes exactly. Roughly the same shape makes it a camera. A viewfinder window would be rangefinder style.
The only thing missing from the GX9 is 120fps at 1080.
But damn, its IBIS is really impressive.
It indeed is, especially for that 4 stops rating.
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If only Sony had a decent layout of buttons and dials, I would love them..
They have great layout on full frame cameras. A6700 is also not bad.
I don't think I'll ever find a camera for me. lol. Honestly...if the GX9 had a mic port it would be the closest to perfect for me. If the A6300/A6400/A6500 lineup had touch screen for the menu, post focus, 4k burst mode etc like Panasonic it would be perfect for me. The search continues.
Take a look at Fuji X-T30 and Panasonic G90 / G95 those might be good packages.
Well panasasonic gx9 it is just a new mirrorless camera feb 2018 vs sony release in 2016.
Both are on the market at the same time though, so that is not a relevant factor while deciding which to buy.
GX9 vs GX8?
I prefer GX9
@@TheHybridShooter Isn't GX8's weather sealed body and selfie screen a big plus? What makes you prefer GX9?
@@LaurensiusAdiKun No low pass filter, better IBIS, smaller size. I don't like rotating screens.
@@TheHybridShooter Got it, thanks man!
He said the a6500 is better for 4K video. How about it's better at 4K filming in 30 second intervals. hehe
I don't know what you mean by that.
Bali!
Panasonic is the best
The ibis for walking is the most disappointing point for me at a6500.
Very nice video, but I believe there is one thing missing that could be a deal breaker for some. Sony 6500 is specified as 'Weather sealed'. Owner of none.
No, it is not. It is specified as "dust and moisture resistant", which is Sony's way of saying not weather sealed.
Panasonic pictures Looks Premium its got that classy Looks to. Its like a battle between Audi (Panasonic) vs Toyota( SONY) both made in JAPAN. 🤪 my vote is Panasonic
The image quality is still better on Sony,.
Audi is made in Germany (Leica);-)
I stepped over on the sony a6500 a while ago and it was the worst shooting experience ever. It sucked all the fun of shooting out of it. Sold it within 5 months.
My first time seeing a Spanish car.
your city is beautiful
Thank you, but was only there for a holiday.
where is that ???
Panasonic better!
No contest. Silly to compare the two for stills, at least as well as autofocus.
And yet, 87 771 people found it interesting enough to watch, which implies that you comment is in fact silly.
@@TheHybridShooter I must be the chosen one in that case.
Neither is a rangefinder .. they are just mirrorless CSCs.
I like the panasonic but I feel you are paid to say it's better.
First of all, I didn't say that it's better, and you feel wrong.
The Sony is sooo damn ugly tho...😪
I like it.
gx9 has pretty bad auto focus, i wish I never got it
The average person has never seen a real rangefinder camera. And neither the Panasonic or Sony cameras are rangefinder. What is the purpose of this video. If it is to compare two cameras that have viewfinders on one edge then OK.
BTW, the rangefinder focusing system was not so hot.
As I have said in the beginning of this video, these are rangefinder style cameras, so yes, it is about viewfinder position.
@@TheHybridShooter Yes, I finally get it. My brain was unable to figure out how a crop sensor APS-C system would enable a rangefinder type of focusing. On-sensor autofocus is light years better than rangefinder. I don't see how placing the EVF to the left side, emulating the rangefinder design, does any good.
It allows the camera to be smaller.
@@TheHybridShooter This is poppycock! It is quite natural to put the EVF on the left when the shutter is on the right. A true rangefinder focusing mechanism may have allowed smaller designs back in the day. But in 2018, it has no meaning.
@@titaniumsandwedge It has the same meaning today, if the viewfinder is place in the corner you don't hump on the top of the camera to accommodate viewfinder.