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I've used the G9 for 3 months now for sports and entertainment events at a large exhibitor in my city, here's what I have to say quite quickly: The body is perfect for me. The grip is the perfect depth for me. The weight is perfect for me. The construction feels rock solid. I've used it in deep Nova Scotia rains on a vacation 2 weeks ago, and I had no problems with the weather. I was excited to use a lcd display on top again because I've been using GH4's for 4 years now. The G9 was my major upgrade this year. I started out by forgetting about it, but as I readjusted to having the screen, I use it all the time now. Same situation with the analog joystick. I really like the moveable display screen. It makes everything look like gold. The programmable buttons are a god send, especially that dial on the front which I have programmed to switch into "night mode." The battery isn't as good as my GH4's, which I have the most experience with, and I presume it's because of the IBIS. The image quality is fantastic and 20mps is good enough. 24 would be perfect, but I have absolutely no issues with 20. The DR is good and I'm extremely happy with it. The files are large and I feel like I can really push them a lot in post-production to get enough out of them-- sometimes too much because I get carried away. I have had no issues editing photos and grain hasn't been an issue what-so-ever. Again, pixel peepers might hate that, but I came from a newspaper background, and generally when printing for publications or web, this isn't an issue in my opinion. I haven't used the video enough, and while in my experience it might be better than the GH4, the lack of control comparatively sorta' sucks a bit. The battery grip is also fantastic and matches the body perfectly. The menu's are fantastic, and that's something Panasonic has really nailed down for years now. At work we have a couple different bodies, but I usually rent. Last year we grabbed a Sony body and I can't remember which one, but they were fine. I disliked the menu's strongly and I found the ergonomics to be lacking, but that's my preference and for my needs. In conclusion, I wrote too much and should have just produced my own video review of the G9. Sorry about this everyone.
Any chance we could see some of the work you shot with the g9? currently torn between dropping M43 altogether after finding myself enjoy more photo work than i do video. I also owned a gh4 and come from a film background but can find very little support for professional photography in the M43 form factor
Finally Bought G9 today. Its a camera I like to shoot pictures with. Ergonomics are unbeatable. No matter how good other full frames cameras bring features on paper. But Lumix G9 images are more than good enough to compete and probably best fun gadget to use.
dude, 13k subs? Wtf. Congrats. As I discovered you you were at about 4k subs. Good old G85 Times! Keep it up. Still looking forward to your reviews. Very informative and professional as always.
Thank you, I appreciate your long term support, I remember that you commented on my video about i.Dynamic in Panasonic cameras, I had less than 1K back then :D
wow. Less than 1k. Man....That's even more impressive. Love to see your channel growing. You definately deserve it in my opinion. Your content is always high quality and well thought. Also your kind of review is informative and not too theoretical!
If you consider the cost of the FF lenses, Panasonic and 4/3rd system makes lot more sense for an advanced enthusiast. If you are successful professional...why consider only FF, a Medium Format can also an option
@@prashanthm4641 Are you using that logic to imply that full frame is not needed? Don't forget that FF is the only system that's currently have widest lens, shallowest DOF lens, and longest tele lens that available. That's the only reason why professional stays with FF and not any other systems.
It is a great comparison for people comparing the 2 systems on a budget. I'm literally deciding whether to save up for 6 months or is it worth saving for 1 year to invest in full frame. It's a long time and huge cost difference for entry level professionals like me. They're both very decent hybrid cameras, and are at the opposite ends of the sensor size spectrum that most consumers buy. Hence the relevant comparison which highlights the pros and cons to each system.
I’m not even close to pro level, that said, I love the G9. I recently switched from a6400. I was looking at the A7iii because I thought I needed FF. After some research I got the G9 (it does exactly what I need, in camera focus stacking) I do landscape & artistic macro/ close up. I just recently bought the G9, so far I’m loving it. High Res & Post Focus has a little learning curve but it rocks. Yes, I know I can focus stack on the computer but why when the camera does it very well. The high res is fantastic for those clients that love large prints or multi canvas prints.
This is a good analysis. These are the same two cameras I use everyday. The A7iii is stunningly capable and It’s always nearby when I need it. But the G9 is my constant companion and I can easily work within the confines of M43 in exchange for superb ergos and intuitive design.
Great review. Each of us has our own criteria based on what's most important to us. For me, the fully articulated screen of the G9 is mandatory. The a73 has all kinds of wonderful features, but the fact that its screen only tilts makes it not nearly as usable with my aging knees. I've come to rely on a touch screen more and more, especially touch focus. And finally, in the real world, the extra stabilization in the Panasonic does a lot to offset the sensor size differences relative to dynamic range and noise. Your review is spot-on that these are both incredible cameras and can make incredible pictures. How fortunate we are to have such a wealth of capable tools!
Yes, it is mostly about preferences, fortunately there is a lot to choose from at moment. I will be getting Atomos Ninja V for my Sony cameras so that could solve the front facing screen. Thank you for watching!
Great breakdown man. I love using my G85 for snapshots and holiday photos. If M4/3 has better ISO performance I would almost think about switching to it for my weddings. I still may rent a G9 for a wedding though.
Thank you, M43 is great system for non-professional use and with F1.2 - F1.4 primes, the G9 should be OK for things like wedding. I have never shot a wedding though, so I might be wrong about that 😃
Joe Marano depends on your definition of fantastic results. You unfortunately can't shoot event on iPhone with decent results no matter how good you are. Steven Soderbergh even tried to shoot movie on iPhone with full Hollywood crew and it still looks awful.
Photo-Me-Ike I just successfully shot my first wedding with my GH5. Went really well. I used off camera HSS wireless flash. And I used 1.7/1.8/2.8 lenses for random candids.
I am using Olympus Em1(markI) aside with Canon 5DII for 2 years shooting weddings. I usually do 70% of the wedding with M43, they're way sharper than FF and ISO is no problem when you have fast primes(they don't need to be the fastest for cool results, but faster is better). My setup is Leica 15mm f1.7, Oly 45mm f1.8 and 60mm macro f2.8 on Oly M1 and Canon 24-105 f4 and Canon 40 f2.8 on Canon 5D MarkII. I also like to use artificial light on both. If you want to see the results, my Instagram profile is @ronybonani. M43 are awesome, but you have to change your head to M43 photographer instead of FF photographer, forget the high iso and use higher aperture.
@@TheHybridShooter the G9 is great camera for weddings and I have shot a lot of my wedding work featured on my website and insta with the G9. A7 iii looks great though I have never shot with sony. Great video as always
Really relevant comparison! Both cameras are closely priced and have A LOT of strengths. I have both systems, and agree with everything you said. For me, I use M4/3rd for travel and everyday carry and Full Frame for portraits, sports and documentary work. I'm not a fan of the M/4rd f1.2 lenses as they're just as expensive the Full Frame equivalents and get away from the m/43rds advantage of small size package. But the new sensors have improved a great deal in low light. The gap is much smaller now up to ISO 6400.
Thank you, the gap is about 1,25 to 1,5 stops up to ISO 6 400, which is still a lot IMO since the full frame is improving as well, although the MFT is now much more usable for professional work.
I absolutely love your reviews, much like I love those of David Thorpe! I have filmed my first video with the Sony A7iii and I must admit that the video quality along with stills quality is superb! But every time I use the Sony I miss the enjoyment I got when using my GH4...which leads me to continually want either a GH5 or a G9.
I am so happy that Sony found it worthy to try Full Frame CSC's. I could have gone so wrong! But... oh my the Dynamic Range, the low levels of noise, the IBIS, the ... ah so good. Not cheap, but you pay for what you get here. And it is also is nice to see that Panasonic is also very capable to squeeze as much quality out of that smaller sensor. Very good quality! In the begin everybody laughed and said that those sensors were just kid toys. Look at those people who said that now. So both are a good buy.
Another great and very detailed video! Thank you! I would appreciate if you could take more about video capabilities of each camera but you are a "Hybrid Shooter" after all :)
Not too long, at all. This vid was perfect length to feel like a worthwhile detailed review and comparison. I've been waiting a good while to see an unbiased, equally informed, direct comparison of these 2 cameras. Great job in doing that. Looking forward to further comparative info. BTW, I would have loved to have seen more examples of final renders of the exact same shot captured by both cameras. Otherwise, excellent review!
thank you for the review, what camera did you use to make this video? i love the sharpness. and autofocus looks smooth. i have canon mark 3, and need to find an alternative with 4k and good autofocus, for my fitness videos and vlogging.
Great review. For me they are different cameras as the cost difference is considerable and the handling is shockingly different. I tried the Sony and the lenses are very heavy. The zoom is very stiff. Don’t get me wrong, the Sony is a better camera in many ways but I’m not taking it traveling. It’s a monster. Each provides a different compromise. And if you’re a vlogger the Sony is not an option.
Fortunately, there is a lot of options on the market now, so anybody can choose what best suits his needs. There are some small lenses for full frame like 24-70mm F4, Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 is also tiny for what it does. Sony definitely is an option if you are vlogger though, I will make a video about that.
Which camera would you choose for real estate photography, where 95% is stills and 5% video; where aperture is anywhere from 7.1 to 11 and everything, foreground and background, is usually in focus; where you almost always shoot from a tripod during the daylight hours; where you do a lot of walking from house to house (sometimes six houses a day), room to room; but where overall image quality is your biggest criterion?
@@mediamannaman Go Full Frame. Full Frame will give you better overall image quality. A7iii, or even the A7Rii are great options as well. Like Hybrid Shooter said in the video, more dynamic range, better low light performance. A7Rii's 42mp gives you incredible detail. If you only are doing stills. Great landscape camera.
Wow, this is a great review. You seemed to anticipate ALL of the questions someone might have and so many questions I wish I knew to ask! I am mulling over a G9 for architecture interiors/exteriors shot in available light or at night. I have a Gx7 currently and the creative settings are very fun to use for arch. shooting. I would love to know how the creative settings are on the G9- thoughts?
Great video as many have said, but, the G9 is still going (and so is mine in January 2022) and has had some great upgrades and there is a Sony a IV now. Have you done a comparison of those now?
Older video but good one. Own both. Unless you do mostly photography or low light work the gh5 or g9 with the Ibis is far superior for my use. Video 85. 15 photos. Love the dof in a7iii but that wears off. Like the flip screen, better firmware tech, size/eco system with Mft. The ff hype is more for sales than for most people use.
Great video..... one major M43 advantage is lens size and not having to lug around a couple of Kg of full frame lenses. It's a big advantage when it's hot and mountainous.
Thank you, that is a relative advantage, because those lenses are much darker and there is also a lot of compact lenses available for FF E-mount as well.
Excellent review. I also have both these cameras and your review is spot-on IMO. I love the ergonomics of the G9. It fits in my hand perfectly. Sony should take a lesson from Panosonic on how to build a camera body that is comfortable and easy to navigate through menus. I am curious as to how you got the shot of the eagle in flight? My one big negative about the G9 is that it always wants to focus on busy backgrounds instead of the subject in the foreground. This is really frustrating when attempt to focus on a bird-in-flight.
Hello HS, like you, I bought the G9 for the viewfinder, but i'm having some trouble with it. I took some pics after a BB game on sigma 16mm, iso 800 or 1600. When I zoom in to check sharpness in the VF, it looks like a noisy blotchy mess, LCD monitor shows similar results maybe not quite as bad. When I look at the pictures on the PC, they're fine, no noise, sharp detail. What's going on ?, are there settings for the VF? It reminds me of watching a movie on TV in Dynamic setting vs Movie mode. Makes it very hard to confirm image quality? Is there some way to set the VF/monitor in "movie" mode and reduce gain (I have brightness on auto or at center position). Do you also have this problem of confirming sharpness? Thanks
A very informative video with everything you need to know and more thank you. You having both cameras which one have you used the most and with what lens for still photograph? Thanks again.
Great video! Worth the wait. I'm actually leaning towards the G9. Though I have no idea what lens to buy and their price, going M43 would more likely be less expensive than going FF. What if I could only get one lens (or two, if I have to), what would you recommend for both systems? In order of importance; wide angle, food/macro, for street shooting and lastly, a bit of a zoom. Also, I think I stumbled on a video demystifying the "full-frame" look. Will edit comment when I find it.
Thank you, there is a ton of videos about "demystifying" full frame look, but the truth is that until they make F1.4 zoom lenses and F0.9 prime lenses for M43 (in that case we would have to demystify M43 size advantage), full frame look will be easier to achieve with full frame camera. For M43 I would recommend Panasonic 12-35mm F2.8 or 12-60mm F2.8-4. For A7 III I recommend Tamron 28-75mm F2.8.
Great video that explains the two cameras !!! I'm thinking of changing my camera and the two candidates are these two !!! I own a Gx80 and would like to step up my level. What would you recommend ??
Great review! Thank you for a very fair treatment of both cameras. Your assessment agrees with mine. No camera is perfect, or does it all. But these two are excellent!
Line skipping while shooting full sensor 4K on A7R III is a deal breaker for me and I have no use for 42 megapixels at the moment, so I much prefer A7 III. It also has same AF as the A9 unlike the A7R III.
The Hybrid Shooter these are valid points, but imo the a7iii and G9 are gonna be used for the same purpose. E.g. video, fast action etc. And if I have two cameras, they need to be used for different kinds of photography.
Thank you for the great video. I myself have a G9 and was contemplating on trading it in for an A7iii. Both great cameras overall I see. Looks like it’s between great low light, dynamic range, and autofocus vs great ergonomics, in body stabilization, and lens selection (full frame lenses look to cost just as much as the camera!) Do you have the kit lens for the A7iii?
Thank you, that is basically right, regarding the lenses, it about whether you prefer compact size or bright aperture and full frame look, there are some affordable high-quality lenses like Tamron 28-75 aleready avaliable for A7 III. I do have the kit lens.
I’ve had a G9 for a couple of years and I’d say it’s the best handling camera I’ve ever owned - and I’ve used many marques down the years. I recently decided to try ‘full frame’ again via a second hand A7rii - initially with adapted EF lenses, which I’ve been slightly disappointed by. The experience with native primes (all Samyangs, but especially AF models) has been transformative. I’ll likely carry on using both, but the resolution from the Sony r, adds just an extra point of differentiation along with phenomenal dynamic range and of course depth of field control. I could wish for a Sony that had the ergonomics of the Panasonic, plus the incredible IBIS and some of the technological implementations of 4K shooting for stills. I can’t afford an S series Penny and the lenses I’d need for that system. Overall I agree with just about all the points you make. I would perhaps also add that the all-round rubber/polycarbonate skin on the G9 is something I prefer. The Sony is looking tatty around the sharp edges where the paintwork tend to scuff (the same is true of my Olympus EM1) whereas Panasonic’s/other marques tend to look pristine for longer. A minor point, but worth mentioning.
Sony Mk II cameras were still "work in progress". Mk III camera would probably give you better overall impression, so that would probably be a worthy upgrade.
@@TheHybridShooter The A7II was a horrible experience, the A7RII was a much better camera. I ended up moving on to an EMX and a used S1, but I like the G9 and will probably purchase one as it is so similar to the S1. Does the A7III still have the greenish cast on the files like the II did?
I recently switched from sony to panasonic. Not sure if you mentioned the rolling shutter issue on the sony, but I found it to be unbearable. Honestly, after years of drinking the full frame kool-aid, I couldn't be happier with m43. Should've switched years ago...
I did't mention it in this video, but I talked about that in my A7 III review. Depends on specific Sony camera that you have switched from and the Panasonic that you switched to.
2 years later. Is the G9 a viable travel video camera with the firmware updates (autofocus)? I will mostly be shooting wide angle and Vlogs. I like the G9 for the price and stabilization. It will mostly be used in run and gun scenarios. Thanks!
One of the best balanced reviews on these two cameras. I recently started exploring the G9 and am looking to buy it now. The Sony has all the rave about it but it didn’t sit well with me. Tried the a6400 and same. Moving from canon so I been watching tons of videos. Yours is one of the best. Keep at it.
Hi.Thank you very much for good video.Help please with the choice, Sony A7III or Panasonic G9 for Weddings,record video,because I have lens Panasonic Leica DG Nocticron 42.5mm f/1.2,and I think to buy this lens to Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 12mm f/1.4 .Your opinion.Thanks for the answer.
For weddings I would probably recommend A7 III because of changing light conditions. Leica 12mm F1.4 is extremely overpriced lens, you can have same results with Samyang 24mm F2.8 on Sony for 1/3 of the price.
Adrian Pocea I disagree about the color science, that was significantly improved in the A7 III and I am very happy with out of the camera colors of A7 III. The picture profiles are also excellent for flat shooting. Editing Sony files is fortunately completely smooth on my mid-end computer.
Yes to the the flip out screen. And based on the results shown here, I would say better IBIS. Also the weather sealing on the Sony is a bit suspect. See IR's testing of the A7Riii ua-cam.com/video/c7BG74w0gAw/v-deo.html. And of course, cheaper lenses :).
For me? Better menu's and a more ergonomic body. Everyone's different though, and if you get used to Sony menu's, well, then you're used to Sony menu's. I can live without a flip out screen, but I'd appreciate it.
Adrian Pocea if the HLG doesn't work, try other profile or customize a LUT. I personally don't use LUTs except for my own custom made for specific picture profile and I definitely wouldn't pay someone 28 dollars for sharing his lumetri settings, so that is not a problem for me. I don't shoot weddings or events, so I don't know what is required for those occasions, but for my purposes I prefer 120p.
When you say FF look is achievable on G9 with "suitable lenses", which lenses did you have in mind? Did you mean solely with the aid of Speedbooster, or can one also achieve that look with native mft lenses like the Pana Leica 42.5 f1.2 or the oly pro 17mm f1.2 for example?
It is not completely clear what it "full frame look" so that is difficult to tell. F1.2 or F1.4 usually provide DOF that is shallow enough, although F1.4 or F1.2 on full frame is still another league.
Great detailed review as always. I wonder how the EM1-Mark II compares to the Panasonic G9. The one thing you didn't go more into in the video is how much the better IBIS on the G9 can help you get similar image quality to the full frame camera. For example on my EM1- Mark II I can use a super slow shutter speed and use a lower ISO than I would have to use on a Full Frame camera like Canon or Nikon. Of course the Sony has IBIS too, but not as good. So if you factor that in, the image quality in the real world is VERY close, and in some cases better on M43 like G9 or EM1-Mark II.
Thank you, I have talked about that in this video, the IBIS in both G9 and EM1 II is great, but it only makes difference for long handheld exposures of non-moving subjects, so it definitely doesn't make the image quality equal, it won't help while shooting events, sports or any other moving subjects. You can also use tripod for long exposure with other cameras.
Thank you, that was interesting. I guess for me there can only be one really viable option, partly because I am so fond of landscapes and need every bit of sensor size and the advantages that gives but also as I got a huge stash of old manual focus lenses and I die to use them and even APS-C makes me cringe (don't get me wrong I started that way as most of us in digital SLR). What you managed to do was to open my eyes to the capabilities of the Panasonic; for me the m4/3 has always been about portability, having a small camera and lens combo that can always be with you and now suddenly the m4/3 is LARGER than the full frame camera, but you shown that it has capabilities beyond, stabilization and viewfinder that is huge too. When it comes to ergonomics I'm not so sure Panasonic has an advantage, for me that is. As I have grew up on manual 135 film cameras and having aperture and shutter speed dial to turn besides the ISO (I think in ASA) having programmable buttons and stuff in menus is like trying to teach a chimpanzee the finer points of astrophysics I'm afraid.
You have both the cameras. So what is the percentage usage in the last year for each? (Sony 70%, Pana 30%?) Which camera has taken your favourite pictures lately? Thanks
That is not very relevant question, because I am testing equipment rather than using it, so it depends on how many lenses I am testing for each system.
Your in-depth and FAIR comparisons (vs 6500 too) of the G9 have convinced me to upgrade from my entry level M43 camera to one. There's a crazy rebate going on right now making this camera $1097 new before subtracting the trade-in camera's value. That's just too good of a deal for this camera IMO. Thanks for all the info you have presented!
Can someone tell me which camera would you choose from the options, I need great image quality, 4k and IBIS. I also need photo stacking in camera. 1. Olympus EM10 Mark IIIs 2. Panasonic G95 Which one is better? If these were the options. They say Olympus is the best IBIS, but want your optionin.
Auto focus of the G9 has been improved. Overall the whole G9 has been improved. This video is great, but maybe a revision or a comment from the author?
Hi! Does the Panasonic g9's back wheel can be customised to set the iso as the A7III can do? If it can be customised I will agree that the G9 is better in use. I thound that the function is very useful.
So i bought the G9 3 weeks ago from Adorama. Great customer service, great deal battery grip, nice powered mic (350.00 value) and 100 dollar gift card for free. I am still disappointed with the low light performance on the G9. Thinking of returning it for the Sony a7III. But with the super high price tag of the G lens, slowing me done to trade in my G9. Do you have any recommendations on lower cost lens. Or am i stuck spending a ton on Sony lens. Also really not crazy about the joystick and the front dial locations on G9. I like the front dial setup on my G7 better. My 10 year old daughter loves the G7 and her old GH1. So micro 4/3 will be part of this family for a long time. Love your videos great job on them.
Depends on whether you want zoom, what range and so. Tamron 28-75 is definitely the best alternative to g-master 24-70. It also depends on whether you intend to shoot moving subjects in low light, if not, the G9 already compensates for that ISO performance a lot by the IBIS, so you will need to use some bright lenses on the A7 III as well.
The Hybrid Shooter obviously it's a better camera but it'll be interesting to get your final opinion for people who can buy the a7 with kit lens , would they be better of buying a a6500 and 3 good lenses especially for the hobby photographer and video, what would you do if you only had £2500 to spend etc.
Hey do you still have the G9 ? i just sold my G85 today i'm looking to get one, maybe i could buy it from you, im just starting as a filmmaker ;) ? let me know
On 10:32 you talk about track focus on Sony, and G9 and even GX8 have same feature and it's impressive. You can even select with your finger the element to track. Awesome. In automatic mode, it detects eyes of people and maintain focus on it.
THANK YOU for this Awesome review!!! I love my G9 but keep wondering if I should go full frame. I envy parts of the Sony but I think I am going to stick with my G9 because I LOVE the handling and smaller lenses. I can forego the 5-8% of the shots that I need a little more dynamic range. Besides I have been shooting auto-bracketing on my true HDR shots. THANKS!
As many others have said: thanks so much for such a well-rounded comparison and straight forward video. It is very much appreciated although I still can't decide which one to get 😆
Thanks very detailed and informative review. I think I'm going to buy the A73 it's just my first lens I'm trying to decide on. I think the 28mm F2 is first choice but the new 24mn F2.8 Samyang is tempting it's pity about the 28 75 Tamrons AF problems I'll wait and see.
Thank you, I will make a review of 28mm F2 on A7 III this week. My Tamron works without any problems, although I understand that not everybody is willing to risk it.
The Hybrid Shooter - yes it's strange some people are having real problems with it and others find no problems. Maybe it was the early batch and they aren't willing to admit it.
Very good comparison and presentation. This video has me wishing for both cameras, but for a single camera solution, I am now wondering if a sensor in the middle, (APS-C), would not be a good solution for myself as a hobbyist. I will be studying your other videos.
Fafadude i think your thinking about this wrong. Yes 4/3 lenses are expensive. The speed booster is meant to utilize your existing lenses if you have any and reduce the massive crop Factor you see when using those full frame lenses you already have. If your spending money on the 4/3 lenses you can't even use the speed booster. Agreed about the lack of autofulocus and compatibility though. Just depends on what you want in a camera. 4/3 cameras like the g9 and gh5 can do a lot more than many full frame cameras. Just depends on what your into ya know?
@hybrid shooter that’s awesome. I didn’t know that. I just had so many problems with the autofocus and low light issues at paid events and I didn’t want to deal with it. Thank you
That’s awesome @Joe Marano it was too slow for me during moments of unpredictability. It worked for Broll and things like that. Excellent quality though
g80 low light iso is rated at 670 by dxo (as of mid 2018, the best of the line, omd em1 mk2 is rated 1300, i guess g9 is somewhere around 1300 also), a7 line - above 3500, a7s goes up to 3700 iso. you just can't beat that in many situations. a have g80, my d7200 with 18-35 f1.8 beats the crap out of it in low light w/o flash, mostly cuz d7200 can do af at -4ev, i guess g9 could do almost as good as d7200, but never as good as ff a7 mk3. you wanna walk in nigth city (and not just do static, tripod stills), grab a7 mk3, well, if your pockets are deep enough :-) wait till 2020 when it'll sell for $600 on ebay
Andrei K that is right, I have compared G9 to A6500 (same sensor as in D7200) and it is pretty close bit.ly/G9vsA6500 G80 DxO score is definitely underrated, the G9 is significantly better, but the G80 is certainly more than half as good.
Thanks for making this. I think many people overlooked the advantage offered by m43's very compact and complete lens system. As good as my A7iii and GM lens are, I am still holding onto all my m43 lens and seriously thinking to get the G9 (or the next em1).
Throughout the video, I was wondering if you lived in Switzerland, Germany, Austria....even Hungary etc. Not for one moment did I consider Slovakia. I must visit Slovakia in the future, it looks a beautiful country. Thanks for a really interesting videos...I am inclined to upgrade from the GX7 to the G9 soon. Best wishes, Rob.
So I've had both of these cameras for a couple of weeks now and I hate it. I don't know which one to use! I don't want to send the Panasonic back but I think I have to. Having both of them requires me to make a choice and I don't like it. How do you do it?
I've made my decision. Both cameras are great and MORE than enough for me but the Sony with it's DOF and better ability to blow out backgrounds is hard to beat. Of course I'll shoot at F4 and above often so that is not the only factor: the shutter of the G9 sounds like my 5 yr old daughter's toy camera lol. Yes, I'm reaching here to justify the A7 over the G9!
@@paulchoate1 I probably won't help with justification, both are great cameras, although I probably wouldn't decide based on the shutter sound. Quieter shutter means less shake while taking stills.
@@TheHybridShooter Lol I know. I simply like the heavier "feel" of the Sony, the full-frame "look" if I want it and I like that heavy, old-school sounding loud mechanical shutter sound when I don't need it to be quiet (easy enough to switch to electronic shutter or silent mode on both cameras). Both cameras are awesome but I simply can't handle both! Although I've been known to change my mind.
I shot 120fps video with my gh5 using the rokinon 85mm cine lens f1.5 and the result are amazing! ohh try the Nikon 50mm f1.4 with a speed booster too, some of my friends asked my if I switched to FF and what camera I am using now?! I was like LOL
Im very curious what your views would be on comparing the sony rx10 iv vs G9... while very different...there are obvious similarities. Would the G9(100-300, 100-400) be an upgrade to the rx10 iv? (leaving out the interchangable lens pro's of course)
I understand it's kind of a soccer mom/ minivan kind of cam...or at least seems like it. Not my initial choice either. The IV is way ahead of the previous versions though. From dp review...(just the specs in case you haven't seem them..if so...sorry for bothering you with it) The Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV is an enthusiast long zoom camera that improves upon its predecessor by adding a new image processor (the Bionz X from the a9), a hybrid AF system with 325 phase-detect points and 24 fps continuous shooting. It continues to use a 20MP 1"-type stacked CMOS sensor and 24-600mm equiv. F2.4-4 lens. Images can be composed on a new 3" tilting touchscreen LCD or the same OLED electronic viewfinder found on the RX10 III. The RX captures UHD 4K video without pixel binning to insure the best possible quality. It offers numerous capture tools, including S-Log2/3 support, gamma display assist, zebra and proxy recording. High frame rate video at up to 960 fps can also be recorded. Both mic and headphone jacks are built in.
Great video as usual, would you mind share your rough PP workflow-I like the clarity and sharp look to your images. I am A7RII shooter with micro 4/3 history mainly shooting with vintage adapted lenses. čau
One other thing. Because the micro four-thirds uses a different aspect ratio that I prefer, cropping a Sony image to that same aspect ratio would reduce its effective pixels from 24 megapixels to 21 megapixels. The difference between that and the Panasonic is so small as to be perfectly negligible.
Hello my friend ! Lumix G9 is currently at 1400€ (even 1350€ after cashback) on alza.sk ! whereas Sony A7III is usually at 2300€ everywhere in EU... I am really tempted to pull the trigger with the G9... I own the G7 and the Fuji XT2. The G9 might be the right update for my G7 for video use and casual pictures shooting :) I really love my Fuji but I also love my micro 4/3 lenses and keep coming back to my loving Lumix :) Love your content, looking forward to the next video ! Greetings from the french guy in Petrzalka !
Hello Julien! Price of the A7 III in Europe is really unfortunate, I fortunately bought mine from Hong Kong, so it cost much less. 1 350 for the G9 is indeed very good price.
Yes, and I already made my order...! Will get my G9 tomorrow at Alza :))) Good for you if you managed to get a good deal for your A7III because our fellow shooters in EU have a hard find getting their hands on Sony A7 or Nikon D850... it looks like EU is not a priority for the camera manufacturers... Pekny vecer
Great video. But i still want both again. Like you said they are both great cameras. I have shot weddings with 4/3 with flash i was able to get great shots. But in a church it was tuff. I love Panasonic my first was a g7 and did a wedding with it and worked out great again with flash. I am torn do to budget. I have plenty of micro 4/3 lens so if i switch to sony i have to buy lens. Any recommendations on lens. Great video best one out there.
Thank you, for the A7 III there is now excellent Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 available, I have made a review here: bit.ly/Tamron28-75sony That and something like 70-200 F4 should cover your needs for wedding photography.
Not sure if I should write on english or Czech, I do on english. Me like a ice hockey coach need cam for quick pics of the game, on ice situation but I do a lot of movies also. I´d love to have Sony A7III, but all the pricing includes objective and so else is definitely over my budget. Do you recommend G9?
Závisí, aké sú priority, G9 sa omnoho lepšie ovláda a celkovo lepšie používa, Sony má o čosi lepší výstup v zlých podmienkach, ale na také využitie by som asi zobral tú G9.
exactly! I've been using Zhongyi focal reducer that I got from eBay for 150plus bucks almost 2 years ago, paired with Nikon lenses mainly the 50mm f1.4 the result are amazing! yeah ill have to manual focus every time but no so far I have no complaint! the challenge that I always get is only when I try to film my hyper active son when he's playing.. manual focusing moving person is really a challenge but its not impossible nor so hard to master!
if you are using basic speed booster which doesn't have electronic contacts then yes, you won't be able to auto focus or get the exif data from your camera@@ecaIos
I really wish that Sony made the grip a tiny bit bigger like the G9. Also, remove the exposure dial, add the top LCD screen. And add the drive mode like the A9. That would be the dream comes true.
I only miss the drive mode dial, I never look at the top LCD on my G9 and it think that it is redundant in modern camera since you can see the information the main display.
I used to have a Sony A7RIII. Too many brakedowns in few weeks so I sold it after 5 month... I currently shot with a GX8 and I like it. I would very much like upgrade and buy a G9. It seems it fills all my needs. You said that both are weather sealed. The G9 is, the A7III should be. Don't trust Sony if you want to keep your gear in working order...
I am aware of weather sealing issues with Sony cameras, but I haven't had any problems so far. G9 is indeed a great camera, if M43 system suits your needs, you can't go wrong with G9.
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I've used the G9 for 3 months now for sports and entertainment events at a large exhibitor in my city, here's what I have to say quite quickly:
The body is perfect for me. The grip is the perfect depth for me. The weight is perfect for me. The construction feels rock solid. I've used it in deep Nova Scotia rains on a vacation 2 weeks ago, and I had no problems with the weather. I was excited to use a lcd display on top again because I've been using GH4's for 4 years now. The G9 was my major upgrade this year. I started out by forgetting about it, but as I readjusted to having the screen, I use it all the time now. Same situation with the analog joystick. I really like the moveable display screen. It makes everything look like gold. The programmable buttons are a god send, especially that dial on the front which I have programmed to switch into "night mode." The battery isn't as good as my GH4's, which I have the most experience with, and I presume it's because of the IBIS.
The image quality is fantastic and 20mps is good enough. 24 would be perfect, but I have absolutely no issues with 20. The DR is good and I'm extremely happy with it. The files are large and I feel like I can really push them a lot in post-production to get enough out of them-- sometimes too much because I get carried away. I have had no issues editing photos and grain hasn't been an issue what-so-ever. Again, pixel peepers might hate that, but I came from a newspaper background, and generally when printing for publications or web, this isn't an issue in my opinion.
I haven't used the video enough, and while in my experience it might be better than the GH4, the lack of control comparatively sorta' sucks a bit.
The battery grip is also fantastic and matches the body perfectly.
The menu's are fantastic, and that's something Panasonic has really nailed down for years now.
At work we have a couple different bodies, but I usually rent. Last year we grabbed a Sony body and I can't remember which one, but they were fine. I disliked the menu's strongly and I found the ergonomics to be lacking, but that's my preference and for my needs.
In conclusion, I wrote too much and should have just produced my own video review of the G9. Sorry about this everyone.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with the G9!
You said your reply would be quick. It was not.
Alex Morgan who said that?
Any chance we could see some of the work you shot with the g9? currently torn between dropping M43 altogether after finding myself enjoy more photo work than i do video. I also owned a gh4 and come from a film background but can find very little support for professional photography in the M43 form factor
Maybe the most important difference even, the Panasonic is just plain FUN to use. Most other cameras out there are not...
Finally Bought G9 today. Its a camera I like to shoot pictures with. Ergonomics are unbeatable. No matter how good other full frames cameras bring features on paper. But Lumix G9 images are more than good enough to compete and probably best fun gadget to use.
dude, 13k subs? Wtf. Congrats. As I discovered you you were at about 4k subs. Good old G85 Times! Keep it up. Still looking forward to your reviews. Very informative and professional as always.
Thank you, I appreciate your long term support, I remember that you commented on my video about i.Dynamic in Panasonic cameras, I had less than 1K back then :D
Lol same!
wow. Less than 1k. Man....That's even more impressive. Love to see your channel growing. You definately deserve it in my opinion. Your content is always high quality and well thought. Also your kind of review is informative and not too theoretical!
Thank you, I'm glad that you like this format.
39k!
I would like to point out that the Sony A7 III is Twice as expensive, So not exactly a fair comparison. Otherwise Great Video!
If you consider the cost of the FF lenses, Panasonic and 4/3rd system makes lot more sense for an advanced enthusiast. If you are successful professional...why consider only FF, a Medium Format can also an option
@@prashanthm4641 Are you using that logic to imply that full frame is not needed? Don't forget that FF is the only system that's currently have widest lens, shallowest DOF lens, and longest tele lens that available. That's the only reason why professional stays with FF and not any other systems.
It is a great comparison for people comparing the 2 systems on a budget. I'm literally deciding whether to save up for 6 months or is it worth saving for 1 year to invest in full frame. It's a long time and huge cost difference for entry level professionals like me.
They're both very decent hybrid cameras, and are at the opposite ends of the sensor size spectrum that most consumers buy. Hence the relevant comparison which highlights the pros and cons to each system.
Very true, however as he said in the begging it's aimed at the same sort of people, for example im thinking of one of them
I’m not even close to pro level, that said, I love the G9. I recently switched from a6400. I was looking at the A7iii because I thought I needed FF. After some research I got the G9 (it does exactly what I need, in camera focus stacking) I do landscape & artistic macro/ close up. I just recently bought the G9, so far I’m loving it. High Res & Post Focus has a little learning curve but it rocks. Yes, I know I can focus stack on the computer but why when the camera does it very well. The high res is fantastic for those clients that love large prints or multi canvas prints.
This is a good analysis. These are the same two cameras I use everyday. The A7iii is stunningly capable and It’s always nearby when I need it. But the G9 is my constant companion and I can easily work within the confines of M43 in exchange for superb ergos and intuitive design.
Great review. Each of us has our own criteria based on what's most important to us. For me, the fully articulated screen of the G9 is mandatory. The a73 has all kinds of wonderful features, but the fact that its screen only tilts makes it not nearly as usable with my aging knees. I've come to rely on a touch screen more and more, especially touch focus. And finally, in the real world, the extra stabilization in the Panasonic does a lot to offset the sensor size differences relative to dynamic range and noise. Your review is spot-on that these are both incredible cameras and can make incredible pictures. How fortunate we are to have such a wealth of capable tools!
Yes, it is mostly about preferences, fortunately there is a lot to choose from at moment. I will be getting Atomos Ninja V for my Sony cameras so that could solve the front facing screen. Thank you for watching!
Great breakdown man. I love using my G85 for snapshots and holiday photos. If M4/3 has better ISO performance I would almost think about switching to it for my weddings. I still may rent a G9 for a wedding though.
Thank you, M43 is great system for non-professional use and with F1.2 - F1.4 primes, the G9 should be OK for things like wedding. I have never shot a wedding though, so I might be wrong about that 😃
Joe Marano depends on your definition of fantastic results. You unfortunately can't shoot event on iPhone with decent results no matter how good you are. Steven Soderbergh even tried to shoot movie on iPhone with full Hollywood crew and it still looks awful.
Photo-Me-Ike I just successfully shot my first wedding with my GH5. Went really well. I used off camera HSS wireless flash. And I used 1.7/1.8/2.8 lenses for random candids.
I am using Olympus Em1(markI) aside with Canon 5DII for 2 years shooting weddings. I usually do 70% of the wedding with M43, they're way sharper than FF and ISO is no problem when you have fast primes(they don't need to be the fastest for cool results, but faster is better).
My setup is Leica 15mm f1.7, Oly 45mm f1.8 and 60mm macro f2.8 on Oly M1 and Canon 24-105 f4 and Canon 40 f2.8 on Canon 5D MarkII.
I also like to use artificial light on both.
If you want to see the results, my Instagram profile is @ronybonani.
M43 are awesome, but you have to change your head to M43 photographer instead of FF photographer, forget the high iso and use higher aperture.
@@TheHybridShooter the G9 is great camera for weddings and I have shot a lot of my wedding work featured on my website and insta with the G9. A7 iii looks great though I have never shot with sony. Great video as always
You are one of the best photography reviewers on UA-cam. Great video & content. Keep up the good work & well done.
Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!
Really relevant comparison! Both cameras are closely priced and have A LOT of strengths. I have both systems, and agree with everything you said. For me, I use M4/3rd for travel and everyday carry and Full Frame for portraits, sports and documentary work. I'm not a fan of the M/4rd f1.2 lenses as they're just as expensive the Full Frame equivalents and get away from the m/43rds advantage of small size package. But the new sensors have improved a great deal in low light. The gap is much smaller now up to ISO 6400.
Thank you, the gap is about 1,25 to 1,5 stops up to ISO 6 400, which is still a lot IMO since the full frame is improving as well, although the MFT is now much more usable for professional work.
The cameras are not closely priced anymore. The G9 costs 1197 and the a7 iii costs 1998 (60% more expensive).
This video was posted 16 months ago... so the prices have changed.
Wow restart your brain😮
I absolutely love your reviews, much like I love those of David Thorpe! I have filmed my first video with the Sony A7iii and I must admit that the video quality along with stills quality is superb! But every time I use the Sony I miss the enjoyment I got when using my GH4...which leads me to continually want either a GH5 or a G9.
Lumix 💪🔥
I am so happy that Sony found it worthy to try Full Frame CSC's. I could have gone so wrong! But... oh my the Dynamic Range, the low levels of noise, the IBIS, the ... ah so good. Not cheap, but you pay for what you get here.
And it is also is nice to see that Panasonic is also very capable to squeeze as much quality out of that smaller sensor. Very good quality! In the begin everybody laughed and said that those sensors were just kid toys. Look at those people who said that now.
So both are a good buy.
Another great and very detailed video! Thank you! I would appreciate if you could take more about video capabilities of each camera but you are a "Hybrid Shooter" after all :)
Thank you, I will make more videos about both, this video was already too long.
Not too long, at all. This vid was perfect length to feel like a worthwhile detailed review and comparison. I've been waiting a good while to see an unbiased, equally informed, direct comparison of these 2 cameras. Great job in doing that. Looking forward to further comparative info. BTW, I would have loved to have seen more examples of final renders of the exact same shot captured by both cameras. Otherwise, excellent review!
The Hybrid Shooter no, it was great and filled with information! Keep it up!
SeanBruceMedia Thank you, more coverage will be coming soon.
TechLineHD Thank you, will do my best to keep it up and provide more coverage.
thank you for the review, what camera did you use to make this video? i love the sharpness. and autofocus looks smooth. i have canon mark 3, and need to find an alternative with 4k and good autofocus, for my fitness videos and vlogging.
You're welcome, I used Sony A6500.
Great review. For me they are different cameras as the cost difference is considerable and the handling is shockingly different. I tried the Sony and the lenses are very heavy. The zoom is very stiff. Don’t get me wrong, the Sony is a better camera in many ways but I’m not taking it traveling. It’s a monster. Each provides a different compromise. And if you’re a vlogger the Sony is not an option.
Fortunately, there is a lot of options on the market now, so anybody can choose what best suits his needs. There are some small lenses for full frame like 24-70mm F4, Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 is also tiny for what it does. Sony definitely is an option if you are vlogger though, I will make a video about that.
Which camera would you choose for real estate photography, where 95% is stills and 5% video; where aperture is anywhere from 7.1 to 11 and everything, foreground and background, is usually in focus; where you almost always shoot from a tripod during the daylight hours; where you do a lot of walking from house to house (sometimes six houses a day), room to room; but where overall image quality is your biggest criterion?
@@mediamannaman Go Full Frame. Full Frame will give you better overall image quality. A7iii, or even the A7Rii are great options as well. Like Hybrid Shooter said in the video, more dynamic range, better low light performance. A7Rii's 42mp gives you incredible detail. If you only are doing stills. Great landscape camera.
Wow, this is a great review. You seemed to anticipate ALL of the questions someone might have and so many questions I wish I knew to ask! I am mulling over a G9 for architecture interiors/exteriors shot in available light or at night. I have a Gx7 currently and the creative settings are very fun to use for arch. shooting. I would love to know how the creative settings are on the G9- thoughts?
Great video as many have said, but, the G9 is still going (and so is mine in January 2022) and has had some great upgrades and there is a Sony a IV now.
Have you done a comparison of those now?
No, I haven't. I have left M43 system a long time ago.
Older video but good one. Own both. Unless you do mostly photography or low light work the gh5 or g9 with the Ibis is far superior for my use. Video 85. 15 photos. Love the dof in a7iii but that wears off. Like the flip screen, better firmware tech, size/eco system with Mft. The ff hype is more for sales than for most people use.
Great video..... one major M43 advantage is lens size and not having to lug around a couple of Kg of full frame lenses. It's a big advantage when it's hot and mountainous.
Thank you, that is a relative advantage, because those lenses are much darker and there is also a lot of compact lenses available for FF E-mount as well.
Awesome review! Is the Panasonic G9 still with it in 2023? The 5 axis stabilization mechanism is really superb!
Excellent review. I also have both these cameras and your review is spot-on IMO. I love the ergonomics of the G9. It fits in my hand perfectly. Sony should take a lesson from Panosonic on how to build a camera body that is comfortable and easy to navigate through menus. I am curious as to how you got the shot of the eagle in flight? My one big negative about the G9 is that it always wants to focus on busy backgrounds instead of the subject in the foreground. This is really frustrating when attempt to focus on a bird-in-flight.
Thank you, you need to set exact focus area with custom multi mode, and use +2 +2 0 focusing settings. Even than the keeper rate is quite poor though.
Yup. Grip is a big consideration for me. Dont like the a7iii too much even though the camera itself is outstanding
Yeah, I agree, G9 has better ergonomics overall.
The video I was waiting for. Thank you for the details on each device!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Hello HS, like you, I bought the G9 for the viewfinder, but i'm having some trouble with it. I took some pics after a BB game on sigma 16mm, iso 800 or 1600. When I zoom in to check sharpness in the VF, it looks like a noisy blotchy mess, LCD monitor shows similar results maybe not quite as bad. When I look at the pictures on the PC, they're fine, no noise, sharp detail. What's going on ?, are there settings for the VF? It reminds me of watching a movie on TV in Dynamic setting vs Movie mode. Makes it very hard to confirm image quality? Is there some way to set the VF/monitor in "movie" mode and reduce gain (I have brightness on auto or at center position). Do you also have this problem of confirming sharpness? Thanks
Man, at some point I was going to do this comparison but I see you beat me to it. And you do it so well :D Great stuff.
Thank you, I'm sure that there's place for more than one A7III vs G9 comarison on UA-cam.
Great information. If you had to pick one of these two cameras which would you pick for mostly video?
Thank you! A7 III.
Super video answering all my thoughts on the two formats..Many thanks.
You're welcome, thank you for watching.
I think your reviews are some of the best on youtube. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!
Awesome video. Very detailed, thank you.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
A very informative video with everything you need to know and more thank you. You having both cameras which one have you used the most and with what lens for still photograph? Thanks again.
Thank you, it depends on the situation and what look I want to achieve. I mostly use A7 III with Tamron 28-75 and G9 with Leica 12-60.
Great video! Worth the wait. I'm actually leaning towards the G9. Though I have no idea what lens to buy and their price, going M43 would more likely be less expensive than going FF.
What if I could only get one lens (or two, if I have to), what would you recommend for both systems? In order of importance; wide angle, food/macro, for street shooting and lastly, a bit of a zoom.
Also, I think I stumbled on a video demystifying the "full-frame" look. Will edit comment when I find it.
Thank you, there is a ton of videos about "demystifying" full frame look, but the truth is that until they make F1.4 zoom lenses and F0.9 prime lenses for M43 (in that case we would have to demystify M43 size advantage), full frame look will be easier to achieve with full frame camera.
For M43 I would recommend Panasonic 12-35mm F2.8 or 12-60mm F2.8-4. For A7 III I recommend Tamron 28-75mm F2.8.
Great video that explains the two cameras !!! I'm thinking of changing my camera and the two candidates are these two !!! I own a Gx80 and would like to step up my level. What would you recommend ??
Thank you, that depends on your preferences and the lenses that you already have.
Can you set the minimum shutter speed with the G9 ???
Great review! Thank you for a very fair treatment of both cameras. Your assessment agrees with mine.
No camera is perfect, or does it all. But these two are excellent!
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
Great content! Could you do a comparative test with using speed boosters on the Panasonic G9 and the Sony A6500 vs. the full frame Sony A7 III?
Thank you, I currently don't use any speedbooster, but I will probably do so in the future.
Love my G9 for its functionality, awesome lenses and ergonomics and if I had the money, I would get the a7r iii on top. The ideal combination imo.
Line skipping while shooting full sensor 4K on A7R III is a deal breaker for me and I have no use for 42 megapixels at the moment, so I much prefer A7 III. It also has same AF as the A9 unlike the A7R III.
The Hybrid Shooter these are valid points, but imo the a7iii and G9 are gonna be used for the same purpose. E.g. video, fast action etc. And if I have two cameras, they need to be used for different kinds of photography.
That is true, but I often have need use two or three cameras for the same purpose at the same time.
Another great video comparison! I’ve been looking forward this one. Nice job!
Thank you, I'm glad that you like it.
Thank you for the great video. I myself have a G9 and was contemplating on trading it in for an A7iii. Both great cameras overall I see. Looks like it’s between great low light, dynamic range, and autofocus vs great ergonomics, in body stabilization, and lens selection (full frame lenses look to cost just as much as the camera!)
Do you have the kit lens for the A7iii?
Thank you, that is basically right, regarding the lenses, it about whether you prefer compact size or bright aperture and full frame look, there are some affordable high-quality lenses like Tamron 28-75 aleready avaliable for A7 III. I do have the kit lens.
any updates? did you trade it in
I’ve had a G9 for a couple of years and I’d say it’s the best handling camera I’ve ever owned - and I’ve used many marques down the years.
I recently decided to try ‘full frame’ again via a second hand A7rii - initially with adapted EF lenses, which I’ve been slightly disappointed by. The experience with native primes (all Samyangs, but especially AF models) has been transformative.
I’ll likely carry on using both, but the resolution from the Sony r, adds just an extra point of differentiation along with phenomenal dynamic range and of course depth of field control.
I could wish for a Sony that had the ergonomics of the Panasonic, plus the incredible IBIS and some of the technological implementations of 4K shooting for stills. I can’t afford an S series Penny and the lenses I’d need for that system.
Overall I agree with just about all the points you make. I would perhaps also add that the all-round rubber/polycarbonate skin on the G9 is something I prefer. The Sony is looking tatty around the sharp edges where the paintwork tend to scuff (the same is true of my Olympus EM1) whereas Panasonic’s/other marques tend to look pristine for longer. A minor point, but worth mentioning.
Sony Mk II cameras were still "work in progress". Mk III camera would probably give you better overall impression, so that would probably be a worthy upgrade.
@@TheHybridShooter The A7II was a horrible experience, the A7RII was a much better camera. I ended up moving on to an EMX and a used S1, but I like the G9 and will probably purchase one as it is so similar to the S1. Does the A7III still have the greenish cast on the files like the II did?
@@jamesharvey44 no
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks
I recently switched from sony to panasonic. Not sure if you mentioned the rolling shutter issue on the sony, but I found it to be unbearable. Honestly, after years of drinking the full frame kool-aid, I couldn't be happier with m43. Should've switched years ago...
I did't mention it in this video, but I talked about that in my A7 III review. Depends on specific Sony camera that you have switched from and the Panasonic that you switched to.
2 years later. Is the G9 a viable travel video camera with the firmware updates (autofocus)? I will mostly be shooting wide angle and Vlogs. I like the G9 for the price and stabilization. It will mostly be used in run and gun scenarios. Thanks!
One of the best balanced reviews on these two cameras. I recently started exploring the G9 and am looking to buy it now. The Sony has all the rave about it but it didn’t sit well with me. Tried the a6400 and same. Moving from canon so I been watching tons of videos. Yours is one of the best. Keep at it.
Thank you!
Hi.Thank you very much for good video.Help please with the choice, Sony A7III or Panasonic G9 for Weddings,record video,because I have lens Panasonic Leica DG Nocticron 42.5mm f/1.2,and I think to buy this lens to Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 12mm f/1.4 .Your opinion.Thanks for the answer.
For weddings I would probably recommend A7 III because of changing light conditions. Leica 12mm F1.4 is extremely overpriced lens, you can have same results with Samyang 24mm F2.8 on Sony for 1/3 of the price.
thank you for answer
Ahoj stáním fotak do 30 000 na portréty a krajinu... co doporučuješ?
Fujifilm X-S10 alebo Sony A7 II ak chceš full frame.
@@TheHybridShooter a7 II zvažují a doporucujed vzít i kitlens? Nebo raději tělo a jiná skla přímo hned ?
@@GamersRod Setový objektív neodporúčam, radšej lepšie pevné sklá.
Accurate, reliable, fun, entertaining and highly informative video. Excellent. Thank you very much.
Thank you, I'm glad that you like it!
What does the Sony A7 III lack to be a perfect camera? For me: A flip out screen
Rusty Zipper I will be getting Atomos Ninja V for situations where I might need front facing screen, it won't be so convenient but it should work.
Adrian Pocea I disagree about the color science, that was significantly improved in the A7 III and I am very happy with out of the camera colors of A7 III. The picture profiles are also excellent for flat shooting. Editing Sony files is fortunately completely smooth on my mid-end computer.
Yes to the the flip out screen. And based on the results shown here, I would say better IBIS. Also the weather sealing on the Sony is a bit suspect. See IR's testing of the A7Riii ua-cam.com/video/c7BG74w0gAw/v-deo.html. And of course, cheaper lenses :).
For me? Better menu's and a more ergonomic body. Everyone's different though, and if you get used to Sony menu's, well, then you're used to Sony menu's. I can live without a flip out screen, but I'd appreciate it.
Adrian Pocea if the HLG doesn't work, try other profile or customize a LUT. I personally don't use LUTs except for my own custom made for specific picture profile and I definitely wouldn't pay someone 28 dollars for sharing his lumetri settings, so that is not a problem for me. I don't shoot weddings or events, so I don't know what is required for those occasions, but for my purposes I prefer 120p.
Great comparison thanks. What camera are you using to showcase at 0:38 for e.g. That camera looks great for that purpose
Thank you! I don't remember to be honest, probably Sony A6500.
When you say FF look is achievable on G9 with "suitable lenses", which lenses did you have in mind? Did you mean solely with the aid of Speedbooster, or can one also achieve that look with native mft lenses like the Pana Leica 42.5 f1.2 or the oly pro 17mm f1.2 for example?
It is not completely clear what it "full frame look" so that is difficult to tell. F1.2 or F1.4 usually provide DOF that is shallow enough, although F1.4 or F1.2 on full frame is still another league.
Great detailed review as always. I wonder how the EM1-Mark II compares to the Panasonic G9. The one thing you didn't go more into in the video is how much the better IBIS on the G9 can help you get similar image quality to the full frame camera. For example on my EM1- Mark II I can use a super slow shutter speed and use a lower ISO than I would have to use on a Full Frame camera like Canon or Nikon. Of course the Sony has IBIS too, but not as good. So if you factor that in, the image quality in the real world is VERY close, and in some cases better on M43 like G9 or EM1-Mark II.
Thank you, I have talked about that in this video, the IBIS in both G9 and EM1 II is great, but it only makes difference for long handheld exposures of non-moving subjects, so it definitely doesn't make the image quality equal, it won't help while shooting events, sports or any other moving subjects. You can also use tripod for long exposure with other cameras.
Thank you, that was interesting. I guess for me there can only be one really viable option, partly because I am so fond of landscapes and need every bit of sensor size and the advantages that gives but also as I got a huge stash of old manual focus lenses and I die to use them and even APS-C makes me cringe (don't get me wrong I started that way as most of us in digital SLR).
What you managed to do was to open my eyes to the capabilities of the Panasonic; for me the m4/3 has always been about portability, having a small camera and lens combo that can always be with you and now suddenly the m4/3 is LARGER than the full frame camera, but you shown that it has capabilities beyond, stabilization and viewfinder that is huge too.
When it comes to ergonomics I'm not so sure Panasonic has an advantage, for me that is. As I have grew up on manual 135 film cameras and having aperture and shutter speed dial to turn besides the ISO (I think in ASA) having programmable buttons and stuff in menus is like trying to teach a chimpanzee the finer points of astrophysics I'm afraid.
You have both the cameras. So what is the percentage usage in the last year for each? (Sony 70%, Pana 30%?)
Which camera has taken your favourite pictures lately? Thanks
That is not very relevant question, because I am testing equipment rather than using it, so it depends on how many lenses I am testing for each system.
You bought the Sony A7III in Malaysia? Saw the MCMC sticker
I ordered it from Hong Kong, but it is international version, so it could be sourced from Malaysia.
please tell me what should i buy for video and photo , Sony a6600 or Lumix G9?
G9
Your in-depth and FAIR comparisons (vs 6500 too) of the G9 have convinced me to upgrade from my entry level M43 camera to one. There's a crazy rebate going on right now making this camera $1097 new before subtracting the trade-in camera's value. That's just too good of a deal for this camera IMO. Thanks for all the info you have presented!
You're welcome, the G9 price is really good right now.
Can someone tell me which camera would you choose from the options, I need great image quality, 4k and IBIS. I also need photo stacking in camera.
1. Olympus EM10 Mark IIIs
2. Panasonic G95
Which one is better? If these were the options. They say Olympus is the best IBIS, but want your optionin.
I can't recommend either of them, M43 is not a perspective system. Buying an APS-C camera with stabilized lens is better option.
Auto focus of the G9 has been improved. Overall the whole G9 has been improved. This video is great, but maybe a revision or a comment from the author?
It is possible that I will do so in the future.
Hi! Does the Panasonic g9's back wheel can be customised to set the iso as the A7III can do? If it can be customised I will agree that the G9 is better in use. I thound that the function is very useful.
Yes, that is possible on the G9.
So i bought the G9 3 weeks ago from Adorama. Great customer service, great deal battery grip, nice powered mic (350.00 value) and 100 dollar gift card for free. I am still disappointed with the low light performance on the G9. Thinking of returning it for the Sony a7III. But with the super high price tag of the G lens, slowing me done to trade in my G9. Do you have any recommendations on lower cost lens. Or am i stuck spending a ton on Sony lens. Also really not crazy about the joystick and the front dial locations on G9. I like the front dial setup on my G7 better. My 10 year old daughter loves the G7 and her old GH1. So micro 4/3 will be part of this family for a long time. Love your videos great job on them.
Depends on whether you want zoom, what range and so. Tamron 28-75 is definitely the best alternative to g-master 24-70. It also depends on whether you intend to shoot moving subjects in low light, if not, the G9 already compensates for that ISO performance a lot by the IBIS, so you will need to use some bright lenses on the A7 III as well.
I love the g9! Very undervalued camera with awsome stabilisation and great 8pmp high res mode.
Great vid as usual. What do I do, get a6500 with some decent glass or a7iii with the kit lens . Help. Ps I'm new to photography and video
Thank you, I will make full comparison between A7III and A6500 next week.
The Hybrid Shooter obviously it's a better camera but it'll be interesting to get your final opinion for people who can buy the a7 with kit lens , would they be better of buying a a6500 and 3 good lenses especially for the hobby photographer and video, what would you do if you only had £2500 to spend etc.
I will talk about that as well.
What about 1080p quality in video? Which camera offers better detail?
I honestly haven't tested that, since I don't shoot 1080p except for slow-motion, but I will take a look at that for future videos.
Very good comparison, you know how to make good reviews, I hope more people notice your channel.
Thank you!
Great comparison. Do you have a straight comparison between Pan G9 and Olympus E-M1 III? Thanks
Thank you, I unfortunately don't have E-M1 II so I didn't compare those.
Thanks for the prompt answers. Your youtube work is great.
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Thank you man! You pretty much explained everything that i needed to know to get the a7 iii instead of gh5/g9 :)
You're welcome!
Hey do you still have the G9 ? i just sold my G85 today i'm looking to get one, maybe i could buy it from you, im just starting as a filmmaker ;) ? let me know
No, I don't have it anymore.
The Hybrid Shooter aww ok thanks i feel naked without a camera 😂
@@TheHybridShooter what camera do you have now?
4\3 sensor simply not enough in terms of image quality (noise in the shadows and low light even at low iso) and depth of field.
Such a well done video. Somehow the word 'gracious' comes to my mind. Thank you!
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
On 10:32 you talk about track focus on Sony, and G9 and even GX8 have same feature and it's impressive. You can even select with your finger the element to track. Awesome. In automatic mode, it detects eyes of people and maintain focus on it.
THANK YOU for this Awesome review!!! I love my G9 but keep wondering if I should go full frame. I envy parts of the Sony but I think I am going to stick with my G9 because I LOVE the handling and smaller lenses. I can forego the 5-8% of the shots that I need a little more dynamic range. Besides I have been shooting auto-bracketing on my true HDR shots. THANKS!
You're welcome, that depends on your style, both have different advantages.
I’m experiencing the same dilemma...
Love my G9 for so many reasons but can’t help wanting a smaller grip for my tiny hands!
Really torn!
Awesome video I think I will go with the Sony A7iii really hope I can get my hands on one soon. Keep in touch my friend really enjoying your content
The availability of A7III is still poor unfortunately, hopefully it will get better.
I was also looking at the Canon M50 I'm not sure what to get for my channel but I really want a new camera
I will make a review of M50 probably next week.
Thats awesome I can't wait for that Thanks so much for responding to me really enjoying your content and find it very helpful
@@OURWORLDTV you are deciding between a 500$ and a 2000$ camera? haha
Wonderful review and comparison!
Great content as usual!
Thanks!
Thank you!
As many others have said: thanks so much for such a well-rounded comparison and straight forward video. It is very much appreciated although I still can't decide which one to get 😆
You're welcome, you can't really go wrong with either.
Thanks very detailed and informative review. I think I'm going to buy the A73 it's just my first lens I'm trying to decide on. I think the 28mm F2 is first choice but the new 24mn F2.8 Samyang is tempting it's pity about the 28 75 Tamrons AF problems I'll wait and see.
Thank you, I will make a review of 28mm F2 on A7 III this week. My Tamron works without any problems, although I understand that not everybody is willing to risk it.
The Hybrid Shooter - yes it's strange some people are having real problems with it and others find no problems. Maybe it was the early batch and they aren't willing to admit it.
Yes, it seems so. They had the first lenses in the US two weeks before I did despite the pre-order, so that might have been a problem.
Very good comparison and presentation. This video has me wishing for both cameras, but for a single camera solution, I am now wondering if a sensor in the middle, (APS-C), would not be a good solution for myself as a hobbyist. I will be studying your other videos.
Not really, full frame is a widely adapted standard nowadays, so that it a better option at the moment.
How do you feel about using a speed post with the g9 to get closer to that full frame look?
I unfortunately don't know what do you mean by speed post.
The Hybrid Shooter oops. Speed booster. My phone auto corrected
It is an option, but I personally prefer buying camera with large sensor instead of using the speedbooster if you want the full frame look.
The Hybrid Shooter ya agreed.
Fafadude i think your thinking about this wrong. Yes 4/3 lenses are expensive. The speed booster is meant to utilize your existing lenses if you have any and reduce the massive crop Factor you see when using those full frame lenses you already have. If your spending money on the 4/3 lenses you can't even use the speed booster. Agreed about the lack of autofulocus and compatibility though. Just depends on what you want in a camera. 4/3 cameras like the g9 and gh5 can do a lot more than many full frame cameras. Just depends on what your into ya know?
I think I need both!
definitely A7iii the full frame and low light quality cannot be beat. I used to have a G7 and G85 and the autofocus is too unreliable.
G9 autofocus is fortunately in completely different league than the G7 or G80.
@hybrid shooter that’s awesome. I didn’t know that. I just had so many problems with the autofocus and low light issues at paid events and I didn’t want to deal with it. Thank you
That’s awesome @Joe Marano it was too slow for me during moments of unpredictability. It worked for Broll and things like that. Excellent quality though
g80 low light iso is rated at 670 by dxo (as of mid 2018, the best of the line, omd em1 mk2 is rated 1300, i guess g9 is somewhere around 1300 also), a7 line - above 3500, a7s goes up to 3700 iso. you just can't beat that in many situations. a have g80, my d7200 with 18-35 f1.8 beats the crap out of it in low light w/o flash, mostly cuz d7200 can do af at -4ev, i guess g9 could do almost as good as d7200, but never as good as ff a7 mk3. you wanna walk in nigth city (and not just do static, tripod stills), grab a7 mk3, well, if your pockets are deep enough :-) wait till 2020 when it'll sell for $600 on ebay
Andrei K that is right, I have compared G9 to A6500 (same sensor as in D7200) and it is pretty close bit.ly/G9vsA6500 G80 DxO score is definitely underrated, the G9 is significantly better, but the G80 is certainly more than half as good.
Thanks for making this. I think many people overlooked the advantage offered by m43's very compact and complete lens system. As good as my A7iii and GM lens are, I am still holding onto all my m43 lens and seriously thinking to get the G9 (or the next em1).
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Throughout the video, I was wondering if you lived in Switzerland, Germany, Austria....even Hungary etc. Not for one moment did I consider Slovakia. I must visit Slovakia in the future, it looks a beautiful country. Thanks for a really interesting videos...I am inclined to upgrade from the GX7 to the G9 soon. Best wishes, Rob.
Thank you Rob, it is indeed worth visiting, there is a lot to see in Slovakia.
So I've had both of these cameras for a couple of weeks now and I hate it. I don't know which one to use! I don't want to send the Panasonic back but I think I have to. Having both of them requires me to make a choice and I don't like it. How do you do it?
It is simple, if I need shallow depth of field or to use high ISO, I use A7 III, otherwise I use G9, because it is more fun.
I've made my decision. Both cameras are great and MORE than enough for me but the Sony with it's DOF and better ability to blow out backgrounds is hard to beat. Of course I'll shoot at F4 and above often so that is not the only factor: the shutter of the G9 sounds like my 5 yr old daughter's toy camera lol. Yes, I'm reaching here to justify the A7 over the G9!
@@paulchoate1 I probably won't help with justification, both are great cameras, although I probably wouldn't decide based on the shutter sound. Quieter shutter means less shake while taking stills.
@@TheHybridShooter Lol I know. I simply like the heavier "feel" of the Sony, the full-frame "look" if I want it and I like that heavy, old-school sounding loud mechanical shutter sound when I don't need it to be quiet (easy enough to switch to electronic shutter or silent mode on both cameras). Both cameras are awesome but I simply can't handle both! Although I've been known to change my mind.
I shot 120fps video with my gh5 using the rokinon 85mm cine lens f1.5 and the result are amazing! ohh try the Nikon 50mm f1.4 with a speed booster too, some of my friends asked my if I switched to FF and what camera I am using now?! I was like LOL
Im very curious what your views would be on comparing the sony rx10 iv vs G9... while very different...there are obvious similarities. Would the G9(100-300, 100-400) be an upgrade to the rx10 iv? (leaving out the interchangable lens pro's of course)
I have never even held RX10 IV in my hands, so I unfortunately can't tell you anything about that.
Oh....well maaybe worth a try? Thank you for the amazingly swift reply! Love the vids!
It is possible that I will try something from RX series although it is not my preferred style of camera. I'm glad that you like my videos!
I understand it's kind of a soccer mom/ minivan kind of cam...or at least seems like it. Not my initial choice either. The IV is way ahead of the previous versions though.
From dp review...(just the specs in case you haven't seem them..if so...sorry for bothering you with it)
The Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV is an enthusiast long zoom camera that improves upon its predecessor by adding a new image processor (the Bionz X from the a9), a hybrid AF system with 325 phase-detect points and 24 fps continuous shooting. It continues to use a 20MP 1"-type stacked CMOS sensor and 24-600mm equiv. F2.4-4 lens. Images can be composed on a new 3" tilting touchscreen LCD or the same OLED electronic viewfinder found on the RX10 III.
The RX captures UHD 4K video without pixel binning to insure the best possible quality. It offers numerous capture tools, including S-Log2/3 support, gamma display assist, zebra and proxy recording. High frame rate video at up to 960 fps can also be recorded. Both mic and headphone jacks are built in.
Very detail video! I believe every format has its place. I personally did a video suggesting 5 reasons why people should go for m43.
Thank you, I agree, both systems have different strengths.
Great video as usual, would you mind share your rough PP workflow-I like the clarity and sharp look to your images. I am A7RII shooter with micro 4/3 history mainly shooting with vintage adapted lenses. čau
Thank you, part of that is shown in this video, I will make more tutorial later on ua-cam.com/video/e3L0IRiAwFM/v-deo.html
Very informative as I've recently tried both at an exhibition.
Thank you!
Very objective and practical comparison. Great job sir!
Thank you!
One other thing. Because the micro four-thirds uses a different aspect ratio that I prefer, cropping a Sony image to that same aspect ratio would reduce its effective pixels from 24 megapixels to 21 megapixels. The difference between that and the Panasonic is so small as to be perfectly negligible.
nice comparison. at what mm does the 12-60 stop being 2.8?
At 13mm, unfortunately.
wow, 1 mm of 2.8! yippee! ha ha thanks for all your reviews and getting back with me.
You're welcome!
Hello my friend !
Lumix G9 is currently at 1400€ (even 1350€ after cashback) on alza.sk ! whereas Sony A7III is usually at 2300€ everywhere in EU... I am really tempted to pull the trigger with the G9... I own the G7 and the Fuji XT2. The G9 might be the right update for my G7 for video use and casual pictures shooting :) I really love my Fuji but I also love my micro 4/3 lenses and keep coming back to my loving Lumix :)
Love your content, looking forward to the next video !
Greetings from the french guy in Petrzalka !
Hello Julien!
Price of the A7 III in Europe is really unfortunate, I fortunately bought mine from Hong Kong, so it cost much less. 1 350 for the G9 is indeed very good price.
Yes, and I already made my order...! Will get my G9 tomorrow at Alza :)))
Good for you if you managed to get a good deal for your A7III because our fellow shooters in EU have a hard find getting their hands on Sony A7 or Nikon D850... it looks like EU is not a priority for the camera manufacturers...
Pekny vecer
I hope that you will like your G9, I bought my A7 III for about 2 000€ so it wasn't that terrible. Pekný večer to you as well!
Will you be reviewing the XT-3 when it gets out? Would love to see how its autofocus compares side by side with the A7III and G9
Unfortunately, I will not. I don't intend to invest into another system.
Great video, very in depth and unbiased comparison.
Thank you!
Have you tried a Metabones Speedbooster? With this you can adapt full frame lenses and keep the full frame look on MFT
I have, but I much prefer using native full frame lenses on full frame camera instead of using speedbooster on crop sensor camera.
Good review , clear honest and covering usable features.
Thank you!
Great video. But i still want both again. Like you said they are both great cameras. I have shot weddings with 4/3 with flash i was able to get great shots. But in a church it was tuff. I love Panasonic my first was a g7 and did a wedding with it and worked out great again with flash. I am torn do to budget. I have plenty of micro 4/3 lens so if i switch to sony i have to buy lens. Any recommendations on lens. Great video best one out there.
Thank you, for the A7 III there is now excellent Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 available, I have made a review here: bit.ly/Tamron28-75sony That and something like 70-200 F4 should cover your needs for wedding photography.
Good comparision, waiting for sensor size video :) I got A6000 and thinking what I should choose now :)
Thank you, I will do that soon!
Not sure if I should write on english or Czech, I do on english. Me like a ice hockey coach need cam for quick pics of the game, on ice situation but I do a lot of movies also. I´d love to have Sony A7III, but all the pricing includes objective and so else is definitely over my budget. Do you recommend G9?
Kľudne aj česky, G9 je určite dobrá voľba, na video aj GH5, momentálne sú v CZ / SK aj v akcii s objektívmi / gripom zdarma.
Dekuji, na objektive s A7III nemam budget. Ted spekuluji bud panasonic g9 nebo Sony A6500
Momentálne celkovo odporúčam skôr G9.
A i kdyby penize bylo, G9 nebo A7III?
Závisí, aké sú priority, G9 sa omnoho lepšie ovláda a celkovo lepšie používa, Sony má o čosi lepší výstup v zlých podmienkach, ale na také využitie by som asi zobral tú G9.
Can you use g9 with Olympus 12-40mm. I really wonder results
Does IBIS and AF works good enough in this combination ?
@@mvhan911 i use the oly with my gh5 and it works wonderful so i expect that it is the same with g9
Excellent comparison! They are both really good cameras!
Thank you, they sure are!
Metabones speedbooster for m43. That would give you a comparable full frame look.
Yes, if would give you full frame look, but also decrease usability.
The Hybrid Shooter decrease usability as in autofocus?
exactly! I've been using Zhongyi focal reducer that I got from eBay for 150plus bucks almost 2 years ago, paired with Nikon lenses mainly the 50mm f1.4 the result are amazing! yeah ill have to manual focus every time but no so far I have no complaint! the challenge that I always get is only when I try to film my hyper active son when he's playing.. manual focusing moving person is really a challenge but its not impossible nor so hard to master!
if you are using basic speed booster which doesn't have electronic contacts then yes, you won't be able to auto focus or get the exif data from your camera@@ecaIos
whats better for pictures ? a7III or a6500?
The comarison od A7III an A6500 will be out tomorrow, I will talk about that there.
FF for sure!
I really wish that Sony made the grip a tiny bit bigger like the G9. Also, remove the exposure dial, add the top LCD screen. And add the drive mode like the A9. That would be the dream comes true.
I only miss the drive mode dial, I never look at the top LCD on my G9 and it think that it is redundant in modern camera since you can see the information the main display.
If I were to buy the A7iii or the G9 strictly for video, which would you recommend then? Thank you.
That depends on your preferences, I can't tell you much more besides what I have said in the video.
I used to have a Sony A7RIII. Too many brakedowns in few weeks so I sold it after 5 month... I currently shot with a GX8 and I like it. I would very much like upgrade and buy a G9. It seems it fills all my needs.
You said that both are weather sealed. The G9 is, the A7III should be. Don't trust Sony if you want to keep your gear in working order...
I am aware of weather sealing issues with Sony cameras, but I haven't had any problems so far. G9 is indeed a great camera, if M43 system suits your needs, you can't go wrong with G9.