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Thanks for review.. Your channel is better when starting with "Hello My Friends!" BTW, I have used GX9 for a year, with tens of thousand images and some VDOs, and I would agree with your review here.. There are some "hidden" good features inside GX9, which few mentioned, and some of which are not even available in some APSC/FF models, such as minimum shutter speeds (SS), VDO IS Lock (even more stable than IBIS), Exe Tele Convertor (2.7x VDO Zoom), and, of course, an outstanding LCD screen, which has better resolutions than all Sony's and Fuji's APSC cameras out there, even better than Sony A73 and EOS RP.. Once I use this high quality screen, it's hard to go back to use other models' lower resolutions.. Besides limited high ISO performance (up to 1,600 or 3,200 in some situations), one big major downside is VDO AF mode (as many know).. If possible, I recommend you to create separate VDO on "how to overcome VDO AF on Panasonic camera on various scenarios"; this would be highly appreciated for many users..For shooting people, I use AF lock to help me to lock focus, or just use MF.. But thanks to great touchscreen interface, MF lever, and many MF assist features, I can live with MF sometimes, though having better VDO AF would be better but understand than there is no perfect VDO AF, even with Sony's or Canon's.. In some "complex" situations like sports or events, when it's hard to use MF, I have to rely on camera AF focus, which make me less confidence.. But if the focus is nailed, the VDO quality is superb, even at 1080.. So, after a year of GX9, I decided to buy another GX9 as second body when travel (one uses 15/1.7 and another uses 42.5/1.2), and both cameras+lens can easily fit inside on camera bag.. It's the beauty of GX9 and m4/3..
Love your reviews! During the last year you definitely became my favorite camera reviewer and heres why: A) You're always focused on the camera/lens rather than yourself B) Great structure; clean and calm presentation of your videos C) You always take the price, usability and customer segment into consideration D) Instead of complaining much about minor things or sensor sizes you always find something positive (if the product deserves). E) In the end photography should be about fun instead rivalry and believes. And you inspire us to do so. I'm sticking to my G85 w/ 12-60 and 45-200 Lumix for now. I think the combination of the G95 (internal flash and smaller case without the top LCD) and the G9 (autofocus-joystick, highres and no crop-4k60p) would be the perfect camera for me. Until then i will try to get my hands on the Leica 12-60, which is always tempting me thanks to your reviews =)
Perfect review of a totally underrated camera. Just a perfect machine for street photography and it even performs under rain and dust very reliable! I shot around 50k pics now and prefer it over the G9 on the streets. Image quality is stunning even in low light! Thanks for your realistic and focused reviews!
Nice as ever. Thanks. Just swapped from Nikon D5300/5500 double combination for GX9 and kit plus 17mm Olympus, 25mm Panasonic and 7-14 Panasonic... Wow! What an improvement. Stabilization is a game changer for me...
I had Nikon D5xxx series in the past, and I love its tracking capability. What's your opinion about gx9 DFD? Especially about its tracking in lowlight. *I'm sorry for my poor English
Love my GX9, it is the perfect camera for what i want. I did buy extra batteries thought, you are correct about the small battery life. My next purchase is a second lens.
Have GX9 for half year now, for me it was clear upgrade from GX7, even batteries same :) After some reading-viewing got 12-60 and I very impressed by I.S. Thank you for your great reviews!
Wonderful images! I’ve been using the GX85 a lot lately as a walk around camera (usually with the 25 1.4 Pana-Leica lens). This newer sensor seems to really up the colour game with Panasonic. I can still get really good colour out of the GX85 with Lightroom editing, but I would never consider using a GX85 jpeg so I just shoot RAW. These GX9 colours are at a whole different level it seems. I know this video is a year old but that means the price has probably dropped on this very interesting camera.
If you have a sharp lens on this camera you will love how sharp and colorful images are. And videos shot at 50/60 fps with sharp lens are really good too.
I loved everything about this camera when I first saw it in a shop. The size to performance ratio, the clean, minimalist rangefinder design, the great feel in the hand despite the small grip... but then I looked through the EVF. The field sequential design just doesn't feel right up to my eye, while OLED panels like the G7 or E-M1ii just feel better to me. Probably for the best since I can't afford to add any more to my gear collection at the moment and everything else about the camera was so ideal I was sorely tempted!
Agree with all points in this excellent review. But the placement of the exposure compensation dial is very annoying. It is much too easy to move it when carrying the camera in a bag, taking it in or out of a bag and particularly moving the mode dial.
I just bought the gx9 and started to use it with the PanaLeica 12-60. A bit front heavy but passable. However, I think that the best lens for such camera is rather the lumix 12-60 or the 14-140 which would make it a perfect travel combo.
Another great one, man. I love the love for the GX9! One thing I disagree with is your criticism of the EVF. I don't understand why so many people dislike it - I think it's great. An OLED VF would be better, sure, but the size and resolution works perfect for me (even though I also use the screen most of the time)
The G90/95 honestly was a bit of a let down in my book. The GX9 and G9 and Gh5 have been such strong releases I expected better, and with it coming out 1.5 years after the G9 you know it's not a parts/materials cost thing that's restricting its specs as low as they are as G9 hardware would be cheaper now. Ultimately you come to the conclusion that they've made sure it's a step down in every area to protect the G9 and make sure buyers have a reason to upgrade later... and I think they went a bit too far with it given the price. Sure all mid-range cameras are limited to some extent to protect their pricier siblings, but the G95 just made it a bit too obvious; it feels a bit tight-fisted to me. No body expects a G9 but with a lower price point, but it's just obvious they absolutely went no where near making it the best camera they could for it's target price point, and that's a bit sad IMHO
Dude why would Panasonic do that? They are still trying to sell those cameras, the 49 point system is better on the G95 than the gx9 and the video is much better on the G95.
@@TheHybridShooter The 'Hello my friends' is a terrific catch phrase and uniquely yours - always makes me smile because it means I'll soon be listening to/watching an interesting, well researched, and well put together and informative video. I shoot many different formats and so really appreciate your experiences and comparisons, that reinforce what I'm experiencing myself. Good to know I'm not alone in my opinions.
I enjoy your reviews, and the pictures you got are excellent. I am happy with my Panasonic cameras and was thinking about upgrading to something like this. I also like the 20mm lens. I would never consider anything larger than this, I hope Panasonic is not going to discontinue it's smaller cameras. If cameras keep getting larger and heavier I would just use my phone.
Ahoj ! I have a question. I bought a GX9 in the idea of replacing my aging GX80 which I loved, and mostly I like the GX9 better: small ergonomic improvements, much better jpeg color, better dynamic range etc... But there is one thing I noticed: IBIS does not seem consistent. Sometimes, it works just fine, and other times it seems to be incapable of correcting hand movement, even at relatively short shutter speeds. Have you noticed anything similar? Thanks in advance.
William, my friend, I was thinking about getting Panas 20mm (with the GX80 would be the ultimate combo) but there are a lot of complaints on the web regarding the slow focusing, autofocus noise and general discomfort for using for video. Do you still recommend this lens?
I have the GX9 too and agree with all you said about it. I do find it a little bit too small, but that is partly because the G9 is so perfect. One correction to your video is that the GX9 uses the same sensor as the GX8, but improved image processing (I bought the camera also thinking it shared a sensor with my G9, but no, and I was told by a Lumix rep').
I believe that Lumix rep is wrong about that. GX8 also uses the same sensor as the GX9, G9 and GH5 but the difference is that there is low pass filter on GX8 and indeed uses old venus engine. G9 and GX9 sensor is definitely the same, although the tuning is a bit different.
Great video as always! Is the decrease in field of view the only downside to having a crop in 4k? I've heard some people mention increased noise but I'm not aware if that's actually true.
Thank you, it is basically decreasing effective sensor size, so it naturally captures less light and there is no oversampling so yes, 4K video on the GX9 is not as good as on the GH5 / G9.
GX85 is still a good buy in 2022 for the money. I thought about upgrading mine to a GX9, but I don't do prints with the GX85 so the resolution isn't as important (16mp to 20mp) and I do a ton of B&W shooting which the GX85 is amazing at with the L.Monochrome profile and settings available for it (the color filters are great). I use the PanaLumix 20mm, 25mm, 42.5mm, and the PanaLeica 12-60 on both my GX85 and Olympus EM1.2 and really like the results.
I just bought the GX 85 from a local camera shop but I didn’t realize that there was an upgraded version. On Amazon it seems I can get the 95 for about the same price I paid for the 85 with two lenses. Would you say it’s a significant upgrade?
I really hope panasonic pushes out another firmware update for these cameras with linear focus option. Having used that on the S1, i'm really missing it on my G9.
I wrote Panasonic recently about if there are plans to implement a similar feature on to the GH5 and other current mft cameras. They said that there are, "unfortunately, no plans at this time." to implement it via firmware update. This most likely means that they probably want to make it one of the selling features of a new line mft cameras. Or maybe that it could be a hardware limitation in the current mft lenses? I'm not sure, but in the mean time, I'll just have to keep using my adapted lenses for consistent manual focusing and native lenses for autofocus.
A fair review! I own the GX9 and the biggest complain are the subexposed rw2 files, seen in lightroom software, in comparison with the jpg files. After correct the exposure, even at iso 200 shot, i will have a grainy efect wich will not disappear until the noise reduction control hit a half of maximum. Very annoying to edit this panasonic raw files.
I have watched many of your reviews and appreciate your information and your video style. I wanted to purchase a rangefinder style camera to use for street photography instead of my Olympus M5 Mark II. I decided against the Fuji X100V because it has a fixed lens. I decided against the Sony Alpha cameras because of their ergonomics, and larger lenses. I decided on the Panasonic GX8, because it has a great electronic viewfinder, 20 MP, in-body image stabilization, a back screen that can flip around and close into the body, and an audio in jack. And it uses lenses I already have some of, but I really looked hard at the Fuji X Pro 2, and would have been willing to purchase lenses if I had gotten that camera, because they're pro-level prime lenses are smaller. I like that the GX8 has a larger grip, a larger battery, a good menu system, and the shutter button out on the grip instead of on top of the body. But those were not deciding factors. Thank you for your help in this very difficult decision. It took a long time to sort out the combination of what was important to me and what things different cameras have.
I'm looking for a quality travel and trekking camera that is small and light but has a great lens selection. I'm thinking GX9 with a Panasonic Leica 50-200mm for wildlife and a Panasonic Leica 12mm f/1.4 for landscapes. There are some excellent pre-owned deals. My concern is that whilst the lenses have weatherproofing, the GX9 doesn't - but the GX8 does. Any advice on that or would you recommend something completely different?
Perhaps you have shared the info before, but what video editing do you use, and what settings for your downloads to UA-cam? Your video work is superb, not to mention the quality of the content. Thanks
Thanks for another very informative review. You do such a great job with your videos. Congratulations on your GX9. I have been happily shooting with a G85 and a GX7 as a second camera. I also have the 20mm f1.7 pancake and it's great. I was wondering if you've used the 14-140mm. It's my favorite for it's versatile focal range and size and weight. My kit is compromised of the aforementioned plus a 45mm f1.7 Olympus prime and a Laowa 7.5mm wide angle. I am curious if you know of a MFT range finder body similar in size to the g85/g9 that has a better viewfinder. I do a lot of outdoor wide angle shots with the gx7+7.5mm and the viewfinder lacks the detail, brightness, and a big enough eyecup to assess the quality and focus while shooting with it. From the sounds of things, the gx85 and gx9 may not be a huge improvement for me in that regard. Any suggestions?
Hi Hybrid Shooter. I'm a long time photo shooter. Grew up on Nikon FM and tri-x. I bought the Lumix GX7 as I like the small form factor, and the likeness to a rangefinder. I had stopped shooting with the GX7, have been doing all my shooting with my phone. I get good results, I think because of my photo experience. I recently went back to the GX7. I have the 20mm f1.7 and Lumix 14-42 f3.5/5.6. I like the versatility of the zoom, but like the compactness of the "pancake lens". It feels like a rangefinder. I noticed that the GX7 has, I don't know what you would call it, EVF lag? After I shoot, it takes what seems like an eternity, (probably not, but seems so) before the live image is viewable. I shoot mostly on the street, scenes, graphic like images. But at also shoot sports. I shoot sport images that I collage in my paintings. So I am not a sports photographer per se, but rather am looking for interesting body language. I am thinking of getting the GX9 body and Zuiko 40-150 F4,(at f4, it is probably the fastest tele zoom) and the Lumix 14mm F2.5 and to use my other Lumix lenses. My question is do you think the GX9 will be a good fix with the 40-150? As I said, I am not a sports photographer, I am looking freeze interesting body language. Thanks, Leonard
Do you still recommend this camera in 2020? I do photography just for fun and family, but I want a camera with decent photo and video quality. Now I'm using xt2 paired with xf18-55mm + 35mm f2, but it's a little too big to carry around. I like 35mm f2 more, but i have to swap the lens to xf18-55mm for video (xt2 has no ibis). I'm considering gx9 + DG summilux 15mm f1.7 (one camera + one lens for both stills and videos) . Do you think it's a good idea to replace my xt2? What about the audio quality when recording video (since no external audio port)? Thanks 🙏
Regarding the sensor used being the same as the G9. I have found, and DPreview ISO-invariance test confirm this, that with my G9, I can only lift shadows 2 stops before the magenta cast becomes intolerable. Not so with the GX9. Is this due to different sensor, or same sensor, different processing, (or possibly incompetent photographer )? I've found sunrise and sunsets to be near impossible with the G9 without variable ND or bracketing. What's your experience been?
Sensor is the same, but Panasonic actually claims 25% more dynamic range on the G9 over GH5 because of the processing. That might change with FW updates though. I have never compared G9 and GX9 side by side, but I haven't noticed any major differences in practical use.
Well, if you ever get bored, check out the DPreview iso-invariance comparison of the Panasonic cameras at ISO 200 +3 stops. The difference is remarkable.
Hello Hybrid, thanks for a great review! I'm looking to buy either GX80 or GX9, mainly for video. Would you say the gx80 is the better choice, due to the cropping of gx9? I read somewhere that gx9 catches less light as well. I would be happy to hear your input. Diky!
I have had this camera 2 weeks and like almost everything about it except the small viewfinder. I will have to decide how important the ovf is to me before my return window closes. Is there a special reason you aren't using the 15mm lumix/leica prime? I have it and it is great quality, but find it a bit large for carrying in my small bag- compared to my (perhaps inferior) Oly pancake. Any thoughts?
@@TheHybridShooter Great. I look forward to your review. I like the looks of that 20mm. Slim. I am leaning toward keeping the gx9 and selling the Fuji x100t. It frustrates me almost every time not to have a tilt screen.
Great review, Your Osmo Pocket and Action reviews were very helpful and detailed, I really enjoyed them. Question: What do you think of the Canon M6 mark2 as an all-around travel camera. I know you have the G7X mark3 but compared to GX9 what do you think of the M6 mark2
Hi , Great video !! May i ask about the Highlight/Shadow Function in the menu ? Does it work for RAW files ? Or it only works in JPEG files (if JPEG is selected as the format in the menu) ? Thanks
@@TheHybridShooter Thank you for the prompt reply. About the video you mentioned, i have browsed through your channel on all the video you did but i could find a video about this Highlight/Shadow function ? Maybe i have overlooked it. Could be please indicate which video is that ? Thanks in advance !!!
Hello, I'm just a beginner who's looking at getting my first micro 4/3. I'd like to use it mainly for travel stills. I'm quite stuck between gx85 and gx9. In my country, the former is around 780USD and the latter is 999+USD. If you were me, which one would you pick?
That is a lot of money for both. GX9 is a better camera, but it is difficult to tell how much will notice that difference. GX85 is still OK, if you want to save some money.
Wow, I’m looking at the GX85 with 12-32 kit lens @ $500 vs the GX9 with the 12-60 kit lens @ $700, that’s to go with my G9 that I absolutely love and I had it for about a year, but wanted something smaller for street use. I’m really leaning to getting the GX9. Thanks, my friend, for sharing all your great advice!
I do own the Gx80..and i am happy with the camera. But to improve the handling try the optional Grip for the Gx9, it will give you a little more feel without to make the camera much bigger.
How much handling improvement is there with the Optional Grip? Can you shoot with one hand? Could you shot with one hand having small flash attached (I love having a Panasonic FL360 as a fill light for my portrait photography). I currently have a Panasonic G6 and love the grip and I rarely use the viewfinder (not sure exactly why but coming from Nikon D7000 I feel liberated shooting with one hand using the screen and keep and be aware of the surroundings). I handled a few rangefinder cameras at the store (they did not have GX9 but there was LX100M2) but I found to small and slippery. I do not want to shoot with two hands if possible. I love the G6 form factor but would like to have a better sensor and better tech (eye detect AF, Dual IS). I tried G85 in the store and was amazed by it's feel and speed. I am waiting for G95 price to go down as it's intro pricing is ridiculously high - $1,800 CAD. I am not in the rush to upgrade but I could get GX95 kit with 12-60 for $1,050 CAD or G85 kit for $950 CAD. Current pricing for G9 body only is $1,500 CAD but I already have a D7000 brick and prefer not to have a large and heavy body . I am looking to improve the speed, IS and IQ over G6 but G95 is too expensive right now and I am afraid that GX9 is too small and uncomfortable to handle with flash. The grip costs under $100 CAD and at current pricing it is tempting to get GX95 and add the additional grip to improve handling. I almost do not shoot any videos - mostly stills of family, vacation, casual hikes, urban, etc. My lenses are 20mm f1.7, 25mm f1.7m, 42.5mm f1.7 and two PZ zooms 14-42 pancake and 45-175. Thanks for any recommendations!
@@alexsolovjovs4380 Well.. first to say the Grip is just ..a grip! It is just a small improvement to fill your hand a little more an gives a bit more of overall handling aspecially when you using longer telephoto lenses. There's no battery compartment and you will loose the entry to the mem-card and battery. (i use the micro-usb port for charging and data transfer). There is no shutter button in the grip, just on the camera and to know that you must bent your finger a little bit to reach it. In my opinion the G6 has the better grip over the Gx80/gx9..it's more beefer! But the image Quality is better than the G6 (even than the G7 witch i own) and has IBIS. The LX100 series is way smaller and with larger hands not as comfortable to use as the Gx80/Gx9 and has no tilt screen at all. If you not interested in video consider the Gx80, the IQ is nearly the same as the GX9 and you save a little bit of money. Frankly, to use the GX9 with the grip and flash attached isn't as good to handle like the G or the GH series. In my conclusion: consider the g85/95 when you want a proper camerabody for bigger telephoto lenses and flash attached.. you need a smaller and pocketable camera.. look out for the GX80/9. Best regards :-)
Mathias Anders Thanks for sharing your experience. I will wait for the price of g95 to go down to grab one. Having seen all the negative responses online the wait should not be very long. I will also check G9 in the store but I am almost certain that it would be too large to my liking. Cheers!
Excellent video. I need your advice please: I currently own the Nikon D5600 and I want to upgrade to a good hybrid mirrorless camera. I want IBIS, flippy screen, wonderful video and photo quality with good auto focus. I love the video coming out of the GH5/G9 but I prefer the size of the G90. Furthermore I think I will shoot most video in 1080p as I find 4K files too large and difficult to work with. I have in desperation also considered the Sony A7 III with the 24-105 kit lens(Great deals right now). Drawback with the Sony is heavy camera/lenses, expensive, no touch and flippy screen. But it offers best in class AF, low light performance and picture quality and blurry background. I am also considering the Fuji XT-4 but I find it a bit expensive for what it offers(when available). What are your thoughts? Do you think I will be happy with the G90? Thanks a lot. And a side question as well: why is everyone talking about 4K? Is it really worth the hassle on UA-cam where most people watch in 1080p anyway(yes-downsampled it looks slightly better...but will average joe really be able to tell the difference?) More important is good colors/exposure, great sound, sharp AF, not shaky in my opinion.
I don't recommend G90 at all, it is not a good package. X-T4, G9, GH5 and A7 III are all great cameras, you can't go wrong with either. Yes, shooting 4K is worth it. 1080p is (should be) dead technology.
@@TheHybridShooter Show some some respect to the G95, its a damn good camera if u know what you're doing and has unlimited recording. And the Fuji XT4 overheats, with a 30 minute time limit, ouch, and the G9 is hella BIG and is mainly good for photo and has a recording limit like the XT4. No thanks.
@Vincent Turner No, it hasn't earned my respect, it is not a "danm good camera" by any means. The autofocus is horrible by 2021 standards. It can shoot 0 minutes of full sensor 4K video, which is at least 30 minutes less than X-T4, which only overheats in 4K 60p. G95 cant shoot 4K 60p at all. Not to mention that the whole M43 system is pretty much obsolete. No thanks.
Hey I want to ask though I have seen your video comparison to this and the Fujifilm xt30 what you do think thing has better photo quality and which would you prefer and why? I'm having a hard time deciding I want a small camera with some small lens options that I can take with me everywhere. I've been looking into fuji and really like the xt30 but when looking at lenses there arent many small ones and the ones with lower apretures are way bigger. I'd like a somewhat small lens as well to have some bokeh and with Panasonic they have a 20mm f.17 pancake lens and its below $300 so its small and inexpensive. The gx9 seems like a great camera and I'm a Pany fan I've owned the g7 for years and love their menus but right now I'm looking for a small camera that will give me the best picture and colors and from what I've heard Fujifilms colors are amazing. Let me know what'd you go for.
My preference is not relevant since I am a camera reviewer, but I think that Fuji is better choice at the moment. It is technologically more advance, has better sensor and video. It has different crop factor, so the lenses with the same F number are not directly comparable.
The Hybrid Shooter Thanks for the quick response I decided to go with the Fuji like you said. I also ordered the the Xc 35mm F2 hopefully it’s a small lens it looks compact but I won’t really know till I get it.
Really enjoy your videos. I have the Leica 12-60 f2.8-4 & Oly EM5ii and I am seriously considering the GX9 with its 20MP sensor, Flip screen which will suit me more than a articulating screen as a stills photographer and also the ability to use dual IS with the Leica 12-60. The OOC JPEGs looks great including the L Monochrome D profile. NB The Leica 15mm looks great with the GX9 in other videos but I will stick with my Oly 17mm because the Leica 15mm suffers from barrel distortion when not used on a Panasonic body and I will be keeping my EM5ii. Rich
Hello, Thanks for your interesting reviews. I find them very useful for novices like me. Though I have a question: is this still a good camera to buy in 2020? I want to upgrade from smartphone and I want a camera I can take everywhere I go. Small and versatile. Where I live they sell it in a premium kit with 3 lenses: 12 - 32 mm + 25 mm + 35 - 100 mm. Are these lenses ok as the kit does not include the ones you have reviewed. Actually M50 and XT20 and LX100ii are in the same price tag now. Even original 2014 alpha7 with full frame and 28-70 lens is available at this price. Is GX9 still the one to go for?
It is still a good camera, but M43 is not very perspective system. M50 is the worst option, LX100 II is a specific niche camera. I prefer GX9 over X-T20, but the X-mount is better long term choice. I would say that it depends on your long-term gear strategy.
Awesome review, m using gh5,g7 and gx85, maybe should sell both g7 and gx85 and get gx9..(gx7mk3 in japan), but does 16mb sensor in gx85 and 20mb sensor in gx9 differ that much?
I have a G6 and a GX80. I'm looking to ungrade to something with more reliable autofocus. Which Panasonic would you recommend? Or should I look elsewhere? Thanks for any advice.
@@TheHybridShooter Like what? Any suggestions? Budget, about €700. Could possibly do more, but would like to stay there. I do have Canon lenses. But, Canon cameras don't have IBIS, to my knowledge. I'm more into photography not so much video. Thanks for any suggestions.
@@TheHybridShooter The GX-9 is 2 yrs. old. I wish they would release a successor. I don't need a full frame mirrorless camera like the S series. I'm not crazy about the GH series, either. Those are too expensive.
@@TheHybridShooter Usual genres include Landscapes (especially long exposures day/night), people (portraits and weddings at times). Other genres aren't really what I experience anyway. Which one would you pick as an all rounder in your opinion? PS: I travel a bit too.
I would probably go with Sony A7 III, it is the best all-round option and E-mount lens selection is also the best. Fuji X-T3 probably the best alternative, but it has no IBIS.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks! Would you consider a g9 for all round use? The super resolution at 80MP seems like a good to have option. Last question. lol
I just purchase one of these beauties! I'm thinking of getting a speedbooster 0.7 (metabones) for it to use my existing Macro lenses -- and using the focus peaking from the camera for manual focus. Anyone has any advise on this ?
Is GX9 better than GX80 in terms of autofocus in low light? (for stills, not video) And how is the autofocus in low light? (well something like shooting concerts/music shows)
G95 maybe my next upgrade than going with another Olympus body. Using a grip on E-M10 or E-M5 still doesn't give the usability of a deeper grip that the G9 or G85 has with heavier lenes. Even when the E-M1 is on sale, G9 is still $300 less. If the next version of the E-M5 did come with a deeper grip I would buy it but likely won't. Also I feel Olympus is divide between two different focusing systems of basic contrast of the E-M10, E-M5, Pen and Hybrid focus with the E-M1 and EM1X. Where as Panasonic seems to be well invested with DFD on all their cameras.
G95 will be interesting package, but you will get a lot more with the G9, which is not that much more expensive. I will try to make a comparison video.
I think this is the year to see what Olympus' plans are. We know they didn't put out anything last year because of the factory move and this is their centenary year. For me .. we know they've killed the PEN F.. I don't know if they'll do another rangefinder... I hope they will, but they might take away that consumers not understanding the price point of the PEN F as being they don't like rangefinders anymore ... so who knows? But yeah surely the EM5 and EM1 mk3's have to be announced this year? I agree I don't really expect the 5 to get a bigger grip, but hopefully they'll update the 5 a fair bit. As for the G90/5 ... I don't really see the point of it at its launch price TBH. The G9 is such better value and not too much more because of the decisions panasonic made limiting the g95. Personally I'd wait and see what Olympus announce this year, and make the decision then. Plus by the end of the year if olympus do announce you'll likely hear some rumblings from panasonic I reckon. Personally I just hope Olympus update their lenses. There's nothing especially wrong with what they have out now unless you have a em1x, but it's also been painfully slow, especially given the m43 main advantage right now is Sync IS/Dual IS.
Hi, I am after advice please: I have fallen out of love with my a6000 after using my fuji Xf10. So was looking to sell my a6000 and purchase a Gx9, will I be disappointed with image quality and proformance? Also I very much like your videos, they are very informative!
@@TheHybridShooter thank you for the quick reply! Reasons: touch screen, IBIS, smaller lenses, more buttons, switches controls. I have come to really like the touch screen, I Do not do video or dark images, more walk around town, friends and family images , but worried if the images would be worse than the a6000.
I did it, sold all of my Sony gear & purchased the GX9, c/w 12-32mm / 15mm 1.7 / 42.5mm 1.7. First impression: I am surprised at the weight, this is not a bad point as it feels very sturdy. The GX9 feels great to hold and control, with the Q menu coupled with the touch screen being one of my favourite features so far. The lenses are tiny, this is a massive plus point. Image quality is very good so far and I will update, but at this moment we are just coming out of lockdown, so I will have the chance to get out and about and use the kit as it should be. Coming from an A6000, then GX9 viewfinder is a plus, with the bigger eyecup attached, means I use the tilt of the EVF and I love it.
I ended up sending the gx9 back to the seller after comparing the images to my Rx100m3. To me the sony images were more crisp. Pictures of an iris petal with the gx9 and the leica 15mm were smooth and lacked detail. The Sony showed every tiny droplet of nectar on the petals. On the gx9 the drops were virtually invisible. I did the test in the same lighting with bracketed exposures. The rx100 photo was crisp and a little punchier. For a kit price of about 1000 euros the gx9 would have to be a lot better to warrant keeping it over my smaller 400 euro Sony. Has anyone else done a similar comparison?
That was probably caused by aggressive sharpening 1" sensor Sony cameras which is also the reason why I don't use 1" cameras. I have tested a lot 1" cameras but M43 cameras with good lens always provides classier look.
Hi, i love your reviews, i had the gx9 and now i Have g90.. i think gx9 had better sensor then g90, i think gx9 has g9's sensor and g90 not... Have You noticèd gx9's sensor better quality?
@@TheHybridShooter If you look at dpreview iso tool , g9 and gx9 have very similari output, g90 doesn't have same output ... the photo in this tool have a very different coloration, so i downloaded the raw from the iso tool and Played with white balance for avoid white balance mismatching, but colors are completely different... g90 's colors are greenish in comparison...
What about the AF of the 20mm lens? I mean, is it that bad in the lowlight situations? BTW. great review! I bought myself GX80+12-32mm recently for 7500Kč (290 EUR) (second hand) with almost full warranty and I'm really satisfied! Díky za případnou odpověď!:)
@@TheHybridShooter Jasně, ale je to až moc omezující, nebo se s tím dá žít? Sport fotit nebudu, rychle pohybující obejkty taky ne... AF-C jsem zatím ani nepoužíval:)
Disappoint when Panasonic down grade the GX8 to GX9. Really hope it will upgrade GX8 to have G9 photography feature in a small body like EM5 iii. 6.5 stop, weather seal, flip screen. Love G9 but I believe lots of user also like to have a small body with great feature. I understand the size and grip of G9 is better balance to use long lens. But small and great is what I expect with m43 system. GX10 maybe?
No, that won't happen, you can't have G9 features in GX9 body, especially not the 6.5 stop IBIS. GX9 is not a successor of GX8, but it is isn't a downgrade, it is more modern camera with different feature set.
Hi, thanks for the great review. I've got the gx80 which I enjoy using. I'm considering the 20mm pancake lens. How do you find the autofocus speed? I'm currently using the Olympic 25mm 1.8 for family photos indoors which includes children
I had this camera for a year now and it took time for me to appreciate it: I think it's the 20mm that gives it a purpose, and the 15mm if you can stand the focal length. I bought a Pen-F recently and I can't decide which I like more: Olympus has better viewfinder and fun analog mode color option in the front, but the GX9 can do almost the same if you use the touchscreen. These cameras complement each other, because of tilty Vs flippy screen and tilting viewfinder. The only thing neither of them likes are large zoom lenses: gx9 has the better front grip but the Pen F has better rear one and better wheels. I think Olympus 75mm is the limit here. Buying extra grips improve the situation but defies the meaning of these small rangefinder style bodies. Image quality is the same.
@@TheHybridShooter12/60 is still not a big lens (for a zoom) imo, through if you use something like the 12/40 f2.8, or larger, things become a big tricky. For the GX9 I prefer the 20mm and the super small but capable 12/32 kit lens it came with which makes it almost pocketable
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The Hybrid Shooter Can you please do a video on the Panasonic G6
@@ReaonKaufman I unfortunately can't, it is quite old so I can't get it for review.
@Rajasekharan Vichattu Small size is definitely not the only purpose of mirrorless camera.
@Rajasekharan Vichattu EVF, live view, smart features such as eye autofocus, reduces shutter shock and so on.
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Thanks for review.. Your channel is better when starting with "Hello My Friends!"
BTW, I have used GX9 for a year, with tens of thousand images and some VDOs, and I would agree with your review here.. There are some "hidden" good features inside GX9, which few mentioned, and some of which are not even available in some APSC/FF models, such as minimum shutter speeds (SS), VDO IS Lock (even more stable than IBIS), Exe Tele Convertor (2.7x VDO Zoom), and, of course, an outstanding LCD screen, which has better resolutions than all Sony's and Fuji's APSC cameras out there, even better than Sony A73 and EOS RP.. Once I use this high quality screen, it's hard to go back to use other models' lower resolutions..
Besides limited high ISO performance (up to 1,600 or 3,200 in some situations), one big major downside is VDO AF mode (as many know).. If possible, I recommend you to create separate VDO on "how to overcome VDO AF on Panasonic camera on various scenarios"; this would be highly appreciated for many users..For shooting people, I use AF lock to help me to lock focus, or just use MF.. But thanks to great touchscreen interface, MF lever, and many MF assist features, I can live with MF sometimes, though having better VDO AF would be better but understand than there is no perfect VDO AF, even with Sony's or Canon's.. In some "complex" situations like sports or events, when it's hard to use MF, I have to rely on camera AF focus, which make me less confidence.. But if the focus is nailed, the VDO quality is superb, even at 1080..
So, after a year of GX9, I decided to buy another GX9 as second body when travel (one uses 15/1.7 and another uses 42.5/1.2), and both cameras+lens can easily fit inside on camera bag.. It's the beauty of GX9 and m4/3..
Thank you, I have made a video about Panasonic's AF system last year ua-cam.com/video/YpQ8Ce-v7pE/v-deo.html
Love your reviews! During the last year you definitely became my favorite camera reviewer and heres why:
A) You're always focused on the camera/lens rather than yourself
B) Great structure; clean and calm presentation of your videos
C) You always take the price, usability and customer segment into consideration
D) Instead of complaining much about minor things or sensor sizes you always find something positive (if the product deserves).
E) In the end photography should be about fun instead rivalry and believes. And you inspire us to do so.
I'm sticking to my G85 w/ 12-60 and 45-200 Lumix for now.
I think the combination of the G95 (internal flash and smaller case without the top LCD) and the G9 (autofocus-joystick, highres and no crop-4k60p) would be the perfect camera for me. Until then i will try to get my hands on the Leica 12-60, which is always tempting me thanks to your reviews =)
Thank you, I'm very glad that you like my videos!
Yes that´s true. In the middle there is standing not the man/hybrid shooter but the product/camera. So you can rely on Pros&Cons. Very helpfull!
Perfect review of a totally underrated camera. Just a perfect machine for street photography and it even performs under rain and dust very reliable! I shot around 50k pics now and prefer it over the G9 on the streets. Image quality is stunning even in low light! Thanks for your realistic and focused reviews!
Thank you, it is indeed great package for street photography.
I have a couple of G9s. One of my favorite cameras ever, but this little guy does look so much more portable. Will most likely make the purchase
@@Princeton_James HI, how satisfied are you with the GX9 ?
Nice as ever. Thanks. Just swapped from Nikon D5300/5500 double combination for GX9 and kit plus 17mm Olympus, 25mm Panasonic and 7-14 Panasonic... Wow! What an improvement. Stabilization is a game changer for me...
Thank you, that is very important for me as well, it is one of the the best features in this camera IMO.
I had Nikon D5xxx series in the past, and I love its tracking capability. What's your opinion about gx9 DFD? Especially about its tracking in lowlight.
*I'm sorry for my poor English
@@Durio_zibethinus I only used single point on both, sorry. Found dfd as fast as Nikon, but again Stabilizer makes images cleaner every time..
@@Paul_anderson_creative thank you, and yes, it's nice to have great stabilizer
Love my GX9, it is the perfect camera for what i want. I did buy extra batteries thought, you are correct about the small battery life. My next purchase is a second lens.
Have GX9 for half year now, for me it was clear upgrade from GX7, even batteries same :) After some reading-viewing got 12-60 and I very impressed by I.S. Thank you for your great reviews!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
HELLO MY FRIENDS is back !!!
Thanks for the great review.
You're welcome! I still say it in some of my videos.
Wonderful images! I’ve been using the GX85 a lot lately as a walk around camera (usually with the 25 1.4 Pana-Leica lens). This newer sensor seems to really up the colour game with Panasonic. I can still get really good colour out of the GX85 with Lightroom editing, but I would never consider using a GX85 jpeg so I just shoot RAW. These GX9 colours are at a whole different level it seems. I know this video is a year old but that means the price has probably dropped on this very interesting camera.
If you have a sharp lens on this camera you will love how sharp and colorful images are. And videos shot at 50/60 fps with sharp lens are really good too.
Best opening on UA-cam is back!
I loved everything about this camera when I first saw it in a shop. The size to performance ratio, the clean, minimalist rangefinder design, the great feel in the hand despite the small grip... but then I looked through the EVF. The field sequential design just doesn't feel right up to my eye, while OLED panels like the G7 or E-M1ii just feel better to me. Probably for the best since I can't afford to add any more to my gear collection at the moment and everything else about the camera was so ideal I was sorely tempted!
Hello my friends! You're back!
I never left :) I just don't say it in every videos.
Agree with all points in this excellent review. But the placement of the exposure compensation dial is very annoying. It is much too easy to move it when carrying the camera in a bag, taking it in or out of a bag and particularly moving the mode dial.
I just bought the gx9 and started to use it with the PanaLeica 12-60. A bit front heavy but passable. However, I think that the best lens for such camera is rather the lumix 12-60 or the 14-140 which would make it a perfect travel combo.
Those two have a lot of "smartphone look". Leica version is definitely worth carrying those extra few grams.
Another great one, man. I love the love for the GX9! One thing I disagree with is your criticism of the EVF. I don't understand why so many people dislike it - I think it's great. An OLED VF would be better, sure, but the size and resolution works perfect for me (even though I also use the screen most of the time)
Thank you, SIze and resolution is OK IMO, I just don't like the image overall... and the brightness is not that great.
Have a gx7. Great little camera for travel and not bad on landscapes and street photography.
I can just imagine how good this upgrade is?
10:04 From what I have read the G90 only has 49 focus areas, same as the G80, not the 225 of the G9.
Yes, you are right about that, thank you!
The G90/95 honestly was a bit of a let down in my book. The GX9 and G9 and Gh5 have been such strong releases I expected better, and with it coming out 1.5 years after the G9 you know it's not a parts/materials cost thing that's restricting its specs as low as they are as G9 hardware would be cheaper now. Ultimately you come to the conclusion that they've made sure it's a step down in every area to protect the G9 and make sure buyers have a reason to upgrade later... and I think they went a bit too far with it given the price. Sure all mid-range cameras are limited to some extent to protect their pricier siblings, but the G95 just made it a bit too obvious; it feels a bit tight-fisted to me. No body expects a G9 but with a lower price point, but it's just obvious they absolutely went no where near making it the best camera they could for it's target price point, and that's a bit sad IMHO
@@jamesoren7238 I have to agree with that. 4K crop, old focusing system and micro USB are disappointments for me as well.
Dude why would Panasonic do that? They are still trying to sell those cameras, the 49 point system is better on the G95 than the gx9 and the video is much better on the G95.
@@thewalkingvloggingman7152 Nope, both AF and video are literally identical.
Hello my friends! Finally back to the origin! Great review as usual. Thank you
Thank you. Your videos are the most honest and genuinely useful that I have come across.
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback.
@@TheHybridShooter The 'Hello my friends' is a terrific catch phrase and uniquely yours - always makes me smile because it means I'll soon be listening to/watching an interesting, well researched, and well put together and informative video. I shoot many different formats and so really appreciate your experiences and comparisons, that reinforce what I'm experiencing myself. Good to know I'm not alone in my opinions.
I enjoy your reviews, and the pictures you got are excellent. I am happy with my Panasonic cameras and was thinking about upgrading to something like this. I also like the 20mm lens. I would never consider anything larger than this, I hope Panasonic is not going to discontinue it's smaller cameras. If cameras keep getting larger and heavier I would just use my phone.
Thank you!
Great no-nonsense, informative review.👍
Thank you!
camera is beautiful just to look at :( lovely shots too
Thank you, I also like the styling on this one.
Thanks for the review. I preordered the G95 and hope it is released soon as I am also looking forward to your review of it.
You're welcome, I also hope that it will be able soon.
Great Review.. without high resolution on G9, which one the best of image quality between G9, G95 and GX9 ? Thank you so much.
Ahoj ! I have a question. I bought a GX9 in the idea of replacing my aging GX80 which I loved, and mostly I like the GX9 better: small ergonomic improvements, much better jpeg color, better dynamic range etc... But there is one thing I noticed: IBIS does not seem consistent. Sometimes, it works just fine, and other times it seems to be incapable of correcting hand movement, even at relatively short shutter speeds. Have you noticed anything similar? Thanks in advance.
I haven’t noticed anything like that. ISIB is always less effective at longer focal lengths, so it might be caused by that.
Would you recommend this for street photography over Fujifilm X100T?
I have never used X-100T, so I can't compare those two.
Thanks for all of your videos! Great channel!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
William, my friend, I was thinking about getting Panas 20mm (with the GX80 would be the ultimate combo) but there are a lot of complaints on the web regarding the slow focusing, autofocus noise and general discomfort for using for video. Do you still recommend this lens?
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I am attracted by GX9 but still thinking about whether I should buy GX9 or Sony a6400. Will you have the comparison of them?
I have the GX9 too and agree with all you said about it. I do find it a little bit too small, but that is partly because the G9 is so perfect.
One correction to your video is that the GX9 uses the same sensor as the GX8, but improved image processing (I bought the camera also thinking it shared a sensor with my G9, but no, and I was told by a Lumix rep').
I believe that Lumix rep is wrong about that. GX8 also uses the same sensor as the GX9, G9 and GH5 but the difference is that there is low pass filter on GX8 and indeed uses old venus engine. G9 and GX9 sensor is definitely the same, although the tuning is a bit different.
Great video as always! Is the decrease in field of view the only downside to having a crop in 4k? I've heard some people mention increased noise but I'm not aware if that's actually true.
Thank you, it is basically decreasing effective sensor size, so it naturally captures less light and there is no oversampling so yes, 4K video on the GX9 is not as good as on the GH5 / G9.
GX85 is still a good buy in 2022 for the money. I thought about upgrading mine to a GX9, but I don't do prints with the GX85 so the resolution isn't as important (16mp to 20mp) and I do a ton of B&W shooting which the GX85 is amazing at with the L.Monochrome profile and settings available for it (the color filters are great). I use the PanaLumix 20mm, 25mm, 42.5mm, and the PanaLeica 12-60 on both my GX85 and Olympus EM1.2 and really like the results.
Depends on your expectations, capabilities of the GX85 are directly proportionate to the price.
I just bought the GX 85 from a local camera shop but I didn’t realize that there was an upgraded version. On Amazon it seems I can get the 95 for about the same price I paid for the 85 with two lenses. Would you say it’s a significant upgrade?
I really hope panasonic pushes out another firmware update for these cameras with linear focus option. Having used that on the S1, i'm really missing it on my G9.
That would be great. Flat picture style as well.
I wrote Panasonic recently about if there are plans to implement a similar feature on to the GH5 and other current mft cameras. They said that there are, "unfortunately, no plans at this time." to implement it via firmware update. This most likely means that they probably want to make it one of the selling features of a new line mft cameras. Or maybe that it could be a hardware limitation in the current mft lenses? I'm not sure, but in the mean time, I'll just have to keep using my adapted lenses for consistent manual focusing and native lenses for autofocus.
A fair review! I own the GX9 and the biggest complain are the subexposed rw2 files, seen in lightroom software, in comparison with the jpg files. After correct the exposure, even at iso 200 shot, i will have a grainy efect wich will not disappear until the noise reduction control hit a half of maximum. Very annoying to edit this panasonic raw files.
I have watched many of your reviews and appreciate your information and your video style. I wanted to purchase a rangefinder style camera to use for street photography instead of my Olympus M5 Mark II. I decided against the Fuji X100V because it has a fixed lens. I decided against the Sony Alpha cameras because of their ergonomics, and larger lenses. I decided on the Panasonic GX8, because it has a great electronic viewfinder, 20 MP, in-body image stabilization, a back screen that can flip around and close into the body, and an audio in jack. And it uses lenses I already have some of, but I really looked hard at the Fuji X Pro 2, and would have been willing to purchase lenses if I had gotten that camera, because they're pro-level prime lenses are smaller. I like that the GX8 has a larger grip, a larger battery, a good menu system, and the shutter button out on the grip instead of on top of the body. But those were not deciding factors. Thank you for your help in this very difficult decision. It took a long time to sort out the combination of what was important to me and what things different cameras have.
Great video! I’ve been debating whether to get the gx9 or pen f and I think you’ve resolved that for me. Thanks
Thank you, both are very good cameras, although I slightly prefer the GX9 at the moment.
Which evf is better?
awesome video! the Gx9 is a good solution for almost whatever. I think it's a great package.
Thank you! It is indeed very good package.
I'm looking for a quality travel and trekking camera that is small and light but has a great lens selection. I'm thinking GX9 with a Panasonic Leica 50-200mm for wildlife and a Panasonic Leica 12mm f/1.4 for landscapes. There are some excellent pre-owned deals. My concern is that whilst the lenses have weatherproofing, the GX9 doesn't - but the GX8 does. Any advice on that or would you recommend something completely different?
Another great review - I would like a GX9 as an upgrade to my GX85
Thank you! GX9 is a worthy upgrade IMO.
What sd card do you use for 4k video on panasonic cameras?
Perhaps you have shared the info before, but what video editing do you use, and what settings for your downloads to UA-cam? Your video work is superb, not to mention the quality of the content. Thanks
Thank you, I use Adobe Premiere Pro and export at 4K 25p, 100/120 Bmps, VBR 2-pass.
2:42 They may be smaller but the glass is much bigger and heavy so the idea or compact is out the window!
Not really, especially if you compare equivalent lenses, size is about the same.
Thanks for another very informative review. You do such a great job with your videos.
Congratulations on your GX9. I have been happily shooting with a G85 and a GX7 as a second camera. I also have the 20mm f1.7 pancake and it's great. I was wondering if you've used the 14-140mm. It's my favorite for it's versatile focal range and size and weight.
My kit is compromised of the aforementioned plus a 45mm f1.7 Olympus prime and a Laowa 7.5mm wide angle.
I am curious if you know of a MFT range finder body similar in size to the g85/g9 that has a better viewfinder. I do a lot of outdoor wide angle shots with the gx7+7.5mm and the viewfinder lacks the detail, brightness, and a big enough eyecup to assess the quality and focus while shooting with it. From the sounds of things, the gx85 and gx9 may not be a huge improvement for me in that regard. Any suggestions?
i use the 14-140 on my GX7 and love it. i am using primes now pretty much
@@xstensl8823 yeah man! No complaints on image quality for me so far either. I love that lens.
Thanks for the support help,
Is leica 100-400mm good for lumix Gx9 ?
Still using the GF1 !
if i have a G7 should i upgrade to the gx9?
Nice video as always!
Thank you!
Thanks I am looking at GX9 as an every day camera & thought review was fair.
Hello, my friend! Good to have you back. 😁👌
Hi Hybrid Shooter. I'm a long time photo shooter. Grew up on Nikon FM and tri-x. I bought the Lumix GX7 as I like the small form factor, and the likeness to a rangefinder. I had stopped shooting with the GX7, have been doing all my shooting with my phone. I get good results, I think because of my photo experience. I recently went back to the GX7. I have the 20mm f1.7 and Lumix 14-42 f3.5/5.6. I like the versatility of the zoom, but like the compactness of the "pancake lens". It feels like a rangefinder. I noticed that the GX7 has, I don't know what you would call it, EVF lag? After I shoot, it takes what seems like an eternity, (probably not, but seems so) before the live image is viewable. I shoot mostly on the street, scenes, graphic like images. But at also shoot sports. I shoot sport images that I collage in my paintings. So I am not a sports photographer per se, but rather am looking for interesting body language. I am thinking of getting the GX9 body and Zuiko 40-150 F4,(at f4, it is probably the fastest tele zoom) and the Lumix 14mm F2.5 and to use my other Lumix lenses. My question is do you think the GX9 will be a good fix with the 40-150? As I said, I am not a sports photographer, I am looking freeze interesting body language. Thanks, Leonard
40-150 and GX9 is not a good idea because you don't get dual stabilization when you mix Oly and Pana body / lens.
Thank You! Very informative as always. Will be upgrading from my FZ300 this year and this is the kind of review that is most helpful. 👍🏻📷
Thank you, I'm glad that it was helpful to you!
Do you still recommend this camera in 2020?
I do photography just for fun and family, but I want a camera with decent photo and video quality. Now I'm using xt2 paired with xf18-55mm + 35mm f2, but it's a little too big to carry around. I like 35mm f2 more, but i have to swap the lens to xf18-55mm for video (xt2 has no ibis). I'm considering gx9 + DG summilux 15mm f1.7 (one camera + one lens for both stills and videos) . Do you think it's a good idea to replace my xt2? What about the audio quality when recording video (since no external audio port)? Thanks 🙏
Regarding the sensor used being the same as the G9. I have found, and DPreview ISO-invariance test confirm this, that with my G9, I can only lift shadows 2 stops before the magenta cast becomes intolerable. Not so with the GX9. Is this due to different sensor, or same sensor, different processing, (or possibly incompetent photographer )? I've found sunrise and sunsets to be near impossible with the G9 without variable ND or bracketing. What's your experience been?
Sensor is the same, but Panasonic actually claims 25% more dynamic range on the G9 over GH5 because of the processing. That might change with FW updates though. I have never compared G9 and GX9 side by side, but I haven't noticed any major differences in practical use.
Well, if you ever get bored, check out the DPreview iso-invariance comparison of the Panasonic cameras at ISO 200 +3 stops. The difference is remarkable.
Thank you for the suggestion, I will take a look at that.
Hello Hybrid, thanks for a great review!
I'm looking to buy either GX80 or GX9, mainly for video. Would you say the gx80 is the better choice, due to the cropping of gx9? I read somewhere that gx9 catches less light as well.
I would be happy to hear your input. Diky!
Neither is particularly good video camera, especially not for 4 video.
@@TheHybridShooter Okay, dakujem
Panasonic makes some honest good cameras.
I have had this camera 2 weeks and like almost everything about it except the small viewfinder. I will have to decide how important the ovf is to me before my return window closes. Is there a special reason you aren't using the 15mm lumix/leica prime? I have it and it is great quality, but find it a bit large for carrying in my small bag- compared to my (perhaps inferior) Oly pancake. Any thoughts?
I intend to get 15mm F1.7 in the future, so I don't have any reason for that, it seems like a great lens.
@@TheHybridShooter Great. I look forward to your review. I like the looks of that 20mm. Slim. I am leaning toward keeping the gx9 and selling the Fuji x100t. It frustrates me almost every time not to have a tilt screen.
Great review,
Your Osmo Pocket and Action reviews were very helpful and detailed, I really enjoyed them.
Question: What do you think of the Canon M6 mark2 as an all-around travel camera. I know you have the G7X mark3 but compared to GX9 what do you think of the M6 mark2
Sony A6400 is generally much better camera.
Hi , Great video !! May i ask about the Highlight/Shadow Function in the menu ? Does it work for RAW files ? Or it only works in JPEG files (if JPEG is selected as the format in the menu) ? Thanks
Thank you! I have made a video about that, you can find it on this channel. I don't recommend using that feature at all.
@@TheHybridShooter Thank you for the prompt reply. About the video you mentioned, i have browsed through your channel on all the video you did but i could find a video about this Highlight/Shadow function ? Maybe i have overlooked it. Could be please indicate which video is that ? Thanks in advance !!!
Hi,
Useful review. Can you set 3x3 grid on the Lvf? Thank you.
Hello,
I'm just a beginner who's looking at getting my first micro 4/3. I'd like to use it mainly for travel stills. I'm quite stuck between gx85 and gx9. In my country, the former is around 780USD and the latter is 999+USD.
If you were me, which one would you pick?
That is a lot of money for both. GX9 is a better camera, but it is difficult to tell how much will notice that difference. GX85 is still OK, if you want to save some money.
Wow, I’m looking at the GX85 with 12-32 kit lens @ $500 vs the GX9 with the 12-60 kit lens @ $700, that’s to go with my G9 that I absolutely love and I had it for about a year, but wanted something smaller for street use. I’m really leaning to getting the GX9. Thanks, my friend, for sharing all your great advice!
I do own the Gx80..and i am happy with the camera. But to improve the handling try the optional Grip for the Gx9, it will give you a little more feel without to make the camera much bigger.
I have thought about that, but I also have the G9, so I just use that one if I want better grip.
How much handling improvement is there with the Optional Grip? Can you shoot with one hand? Could you shot with one hand having small flash attached (I love having a Panasonic FL360 as a fill light for my portrait photography).
I currently have a Panasonic G6 and love the grip and I rarely use the viewfinder (not sure exactly why but coming from Nikon D7000 I feel liberated shooting with one hand using the screen and keep and be aware of the surroundings). I handled a few rangefinder cameras at the store (they did not have GX9 but there was LX100M2) but I found to small and slippery. I do not want to shoot with two hands if possible.
I love the G6 form factor but would like to have a better sensor and better tech (eye detect AF, Dual IS). I tried G85 in the store and was amazed by it's feel and speed. I am waiting for G95 price to go down as it's intro pricing is ridiculously high - $1,800 CAD. I am not in the rush to upgrade but I could get GX95 kit with 12-60 for $1,050 CAD or G85 kit for $950 CAD. Current pricing for G9 body only is $1,500 CAD but I already have a D7000 brick and prefer not to have a large and heavy body . I am looking to improve the speed, IS and IQ over G6 but G95 is too expensive right now and I am afraid that GX9 is too small and uncomfortable to handle with flash. The grip costs under $100 CAD and at current pricing it is tempting to get GX95 and add the additional grip to improve handling.
I almost do not shoot any videos - mostly stills of family, vacation, casual hikes, urban, etc. My lenses are 20mm f1.7, 25mm f1.7m, 42.5mm f1.7 and two PZ zooms 14-42 pancake and 45-175.
Thanks for any recommendations!
@@alexsolovjovs4380 Well.. first to say the Grip is just ..a grip! It is just a small improvement to fill your hand a little more an gives a bit more of overall handling aspecially when you using longer telephoto lenses. There's no battery compartment and you will loose the entry to the mem-card and battery. (i use the micro-usb port for charging and data transfer). There is no shutter button in the grip, just on the camera and to know that you must bent your finger a little bit to reach it.
In my opinion the G6 has the better grip over the Gx80/gx9..it's more beefer! But the image Quality is better than the G6 (even than the G7 witch i own) and has IBIS.
The LX100 series is way smaller and with larger hands not as comfortable to use as the Gx80/Gx9 and has no tilt screen at all. If you not interested in video consider the Gx80, the IQ is nearly the same as the GX9 and you save a little bit of money. Frankly, to use the GX9 with the grip and flash attached isn't as good to handle like the G or the GH series. In my conclusion: consider the g85/95 when you want a proper camerabody for bigger telephoto lenses and flash attached.. you need a smaller and pocketable camera.. look out for the GX80/9.
Best regards :-)
Mathias Anders Thanks for sharing your experience. I will wait for the price of g95 to go down to grab one. Having seen all the negative responses online the wait should not be very long. I will also check G9 in the store but I am almost certain that it would be too large to my liking. Cheers!
@@alexsolovjovs4380 so.. Good luck and everytime good light 💡
Excellent video. I need your advice please: I currently own the Nikon D5600 and I want to upgrade to a good hybrid mirrorless camera. I want IBIS, flippy screen, wonderful video and photo quality with good auto focus. I love the video coming out of the GH5/G9 but I prefer the size of the G90. Furthermore I think I will shoot most video in 1080p as I find 4K files too large and difficult to work with. I have in desperation also considered the Sony A7 III with the 24-105 kit lens(Great deals right now). Drawback with the Sony is heavy camera/lenses, expensive, no touch and flippy screen. But it offers best in class AF, low light performance and picture quality and blurry background.
I am also considering the Fuji XT-4 but I find it a bit expensive for what it offers(when available). What are your thoughts? Do you think I will be happy with the G90? Thanks a lot.
And a side question as well: why is everyone talking about 4K? Is it really worth the hassle on UA-cam where most people watch in 1080p anyway(yes-downsampled it looks slightly better...but will average joe really be able to tell the difference?) More important is good colors/exposure, great sound, sharp AF, not shaky in my opinion.
I don't recommend G90 at all, it is not a good package. X-T4, G9, GH5 and A7 III are all great cameras, you can't go wrong with either.
Yes, shooting 4K is worth it. 1080p is (should be) dead technology.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks a lot!
@@TheHybridShooter
Show some some respect to the G95, its a damn good camera if u know what you're doing and has unlimited recording. And the Fuji XT4 overheats, with a 30 minute time limit, ouch, and the G9 is hella BIG and is mainly good for photo and has a recording limit like the XT4. No thanks.
@Vincent Turner No, it hasn't earned my respect, it is not a "danm good camera" by any means. The autofocus is horrible by 2021 standards. It can shoot 0 minutes of full sensor 4K video, which is at least 30 minutes less than X-T4, which only overheats in 4K 60p. G95 cant shoot 4K 60p at all. Not to mention that the whole M43 system is pretty much obsolete. No thanks.
Hey I want to ask though I have seen your video comparison to this and the Fujifilm xt30 what you do think thing has better photo quality and which would you prefer and why? I'm having a hard time deciding I want a small camera with some small lens options that I can take with me everywhere. I've been looking into fuji and really like the xt30 but when looking at lenses there arent many small ones and the ones with lower apretures are way bigger. I'd like a somewhat small lens as well to have some bokeh and with Panasonic they have a 20mm f.17 pancake lens and its below $300 so its small and inexpensive. The gx9 seems like a great camera and I'm a Pany fan I've owned the g7 for years and love their menus but right now I'm looking for a small camera that will give me the best picture and colors and from what I've heard Fujifilms colors are amazing. Let me know what'd you go for.
My preference is not relevant since I am a camera reviewer, but I think that Fuji is better choice at the moment. It is technologically more advance, has better sensor and video. It has different crop factor, so the lenses with the same F number are not directly comparable.
The Hybrid Shooter Thanks for the quick response I decided to go with the Fuji like you said. I also ordered the the Xc 35mm F2 hopefully it’s a small lens it looks compact but I won’t really know till I get it.
Really enjoy your videos. I have the Leica 12-60 f2.8-4 & Oly EM5ii and I am seriously considering the GX9 with its 20MP sensor, Flip screen which will suit me more than a articulating screen as a stills photographer and also the ability to use dual IS with the Leica 12-60. The OOC JPEGs looks great including the L Monochrome D profile. NB The Leica 15mm looks great with the GX9 in other videos but I will stick with my Oly 17mm because the Leica 15mm suffers from barrel distortion when not used on a Panasonic body and I will be keeping my EM5ii. Rich
what's your suggestion between g85 vs gx9 for youtube vlogging(mostly musical cover video) and hybrid shooter as hobby?
I would recommend G85 for that.
@@TheHybridShooter thanks a lot man
Leica 9mm is awesome for this camera and the G95, G100, no more crops!!
Hello, Thanks for your interesting reviews. I find them very useful for novices like me.
Though I have a question: is this still a good camera to buy in 2020? I want to upgrade from smartphone and I want a camera I can take everywhere I go. Small and versatile. Where I live they sell it in a premium kit with 3 lenses: 12 - 32 mm + 25 mm + 35 - 100 mm.
Are these lenses ok as the kit does not include the ones you have reviewed.
Actually M50 and XT20 and LX100ii are in the same price tag now. Even original 2014 alpha7 with full frame and 28-70 lens is available at this price. Is GX9 still the one to go for?
It is still a good camera, but M43 is not very perspective system. M50 is the worst option, LX100 II is a specific niche camera. I prefer GX9 over X-T20, but the X-mount is better long term choice. I would say that it depends on your long-term gear strategy.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks for your feedback. Do you think the Lumix kit lenses are ok to start with? Original A7 too old to buy in 2020?
How long can this cam record video in 4k?
30 min
@@TheHybridShooter thx
gx9 or g85 or em5 mkii??? more on stills and some vids
I'm liking everything about this camera except for it's lack of Mic Input. It's annoyingly frustrating.
Awesome review, m using gh5,g7 and gx85, maybe should sell both g7 and gx85 and get gx9..(gx7mk3 in japan), but does 16mb sensor in gx85 and 20mb sensor in gx9 differ that much?
Thank you. I think that there is pretty significant difference between 16 and 20 mpix M43 sensors.
I have a G6 and a GX80. I'm looking to ungrade to something with more reliable autofocus. Which Panasonic would you recommend? Or should I look elsewhere? Thanks for any advice.
Something with PDAF would probably better choice if you are looking for reliable AF. Also depends on the budget.
@@TheHybridShooter Like what? Any suggestions? Budget, about €700. Could possibly do more, but would like to stay there. I do have Canon lenses. But, Canon cameras don't have IBIS, to my knowledge. I'm more into photography not so much video. Thanks for any suggestions.
There aren't really any options with PDAF and IBIS at that price range. GX9 is still a good choice for photography in that range.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks, I'll look into it.
Has Panasonic abandoned its GX series cameras? I like everything about this camera except the lack of an external mic input.
No, they didn't abandon GX line.
@@TheHybridShooter The GX-9 is 2 yrs. old. I wish they would release a successor. I don't need a full frame mirrorless camera like the S series. I'm not crazy about the GH series, either. Those are too expensive.
@@asanmartinjr07 2 years is very short generation cycle for a camera, these are not smartphones with yearly updates.
It's worth the change to this camera having a GX80?
GX9 sensor is significantly better, and there are some other improvements, so it depends on how much do you value those.
hello Ths, which of these would be recommended for stills? gx9, xt3/xt30 or z6? I am a casual photographer who wants to pick a system and learn on it.
Those are very different cameras in different price categories so it depends on what and how do you intend to shoot.
@@TheHybridShooter Usual genres include Landscapes (especially long exposures day/night), people (portraits and weddings at times). Other genres aren't really what I experience anyway. Which one would you pick as an all rounder in your opinion? PS: I travel a bit too.
I would probably go with Sony A7 III, it is the best all-round option and E-mount lens selection is also the best. Fuji X-T3 probably the best alternative, but it has no IBIS.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks! Would you consider a g9 for all round use? The super resolution at 80MP seems like a good to have option. Last question. lol
I just purchase one of these beauties!
I'm thinking of getting a speedbooster 0.7 (metabones) for it to use my existing Macro lenses -- and using the focus peaking from the camera for manual focus.
Anyone has any advise on this ?
That might be a bit tricky. Setting minimal focus distance with these speed-boosters is not always easy.
Is GX9 better than GX80 in terms of autofocus in low light? (for stills, not video) And how is the autofocus in low light? (well something like shooting concerts/music shows)
It is a bit better. AF in low light is fine unless you are focusing on moving subjects.
Useful review many thanks.
What about the Lumix 14-140 for the GX9?
I have never used that one, but I will try to make a review of newly released version II.
The Hybrid Shooter okay 👍😃
G95 maybe my next upgrade than going with another Olympus body. Using a grip on E-M10 or E-M5 still doesn't give the usability of a deeper grip that the G9 or G85 has with heavier lenes. Even when the E-M1 is on sale, G9 is still $300 less. If the next version of the E-M5 did come with a deeper grip I would buy it but likely won't. Also I feel Olympus is divide between two different focusing systems of basic contrast of the E-M10, E-M5, Pen and Hybrid focus with the E-M1 and EM1X. Where as Panasonic seems to be well invested with DFD on all their cameras.
G95 will be interesting package, but you will get a lot more with the G9, which is not that much more expensive. I will try to make a comparison video.
I think this is the year to see what Olympus' plans are. We know they didn't put out anything last year because of the factory move and this is their centenary year. For me .. we know they've killed the PEN F.. I don't know if they'll do another rangefinder... I hope they will, but they might take away that consumers not understanding the price point of the PEN F as being they don't like rangefinders anymore ... so who knows?
But yeah surely the EM5 and EM1 mk3's have to be announced this year? I agree I don't really expect the 5 to get a bigger grip, but hopefully they'll update the 5 a fair bit.
As for the G90/5 ... I don't really see the point of it at its launch price TBH. The G9 is such better value and not too much more because of the decisions panasonic made limiting the g95. Personally I'd wait and see what Olympus announce this year, and make the decision then. Plus by the end of the year if olympus do announce you'll likely hear some rumblings from panasonic I reckon.
Personally I just hope Olympus update their lenses. There's nothing especially wrong with what they have out now unless you have a em1x, but it's also been painfully slow, especially given the m43 main advantage right now is Sync IS/Dual IS.
Hi, I am after advice please: I have fallen out of love with my a6000 after using my fuji Xf10. So was looking to sell my a6000 and purchase a Gx9, will I be disappointed with image quality and proformance?
Also I very much like your videos, they are very informative!
Thank you, but I can't really answer that, depends on what you are expecting...
@@TheHybridShooter thank you for the quick reply! Reasons: touch screen, IBIS, smaller lenses, more buttons, switches controls. I have come to really like the touch screen, I Do not do video or dark images, more walk around town, friends and family images , but worried if the images would be worse than the a6000.
Yes, the image quality will be a little bit worse, but it will be sufficient.
@@TheHybridShooter excellent and thank you.
I did it, sold all of my Sony gear & purchased the GX9, c/w 12-32mm / 15mm 1.7 / 42.5mm 1.7. First impression: I am surprised at the weight, this is not a bad point as it feels very sturdy. The GX9 feels great to hold and control, with the Q menu coupled with the touch screen being one of my favourite features so far. The lenses are tiny, this is a massive plus point. Image quality is very good so far and I will update, but at this moment we are just coming out of lockdown, so I will have the chance to get out and about and use the kit as it should be. Coming from an A6000, then GX9 viewfinder is a plus, with the bigger eyecup attached, means I use the tilt of the EVF and I love it.
i love the gx9 but there is one big problem for me : i can't use my external microphone!
What do you think about the g90
Is the AF better then the g80 and it worth it the upgrade??
I haven't tested it yet.
@@TheHybridShooter ok thank you sir ive seen Richard wong af test its very Nice check out Richard wong video
I ended up sending the gx9 back to the seller after comparing the images to my Rx100m3. To me the sony images were more crisp. Pictures of an iris petal with the gx9 and the leica 15mm were smooth and lacked detail. The Sony showed every tiny droplet of nectar on the petals. On the gx9 the drops were virtually invisible. I did the test in the same lighting with bracketed exposures. The rx100 photo was crisp and a little punchier. For a kit price of about 1000 euros the gx9 would have to be a lot better to warrant keeping it over my smaller 400 euro Sony. Has anyone else done a similar comparison?
That was probably caused by aggressive sharpening 1" sensor Sony cameras which is also the reason why I don't use 1" cameras. I have tested a lot 1" cameras but M43 cameras with good lens always provides classier look.
Hi, i love your reviews, i had the gx9 and now i Have g90.. i think gx9 had better sensor then g90, i think gx9 has g9's sensor and g90 not...
Have You noticèd gx9's sensor better quality?
It is the same sensor in all 3 cameras. G90 and GX9 have same internals, G9 has a little bit different processing.
@@TheHybridShooter If you look at dpreview iso tool , g9 and gx9 have very similari output, g90 doesn't have same output ... the photo in this tool have a very different coloration, so i downloaded the raw from the iso tool and Played with white balance for avoid white balance mismatching, but colors are completely different... g90 's colors are greenish in comparison...
@@marcoriggi9173 I can't comment on that. G90 and GX9 use the same sensor and processing, that is all that can say about that.
Hey, maybe you could test Olympus 12-200? It's look like a nice lens to take on vacations :)
It doesn't work with ISIS in Panasonic cameras, so I prefer 12-60 Leica.
Brilliant video
@@randall.chamberlain Thank you!
Great video! Thank you!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Amazing DR in your shots. How can this be
Take raw and ETTR. Amazing DR and low ISO with the stabilization.
Hello! Are you able to use AUTO ISO in VIDEO mode? Pleeeeeassse say yes!!! I have that G85 and you couldnt, sooo annoying.
Yes, you can.
What about the AF of the 20mm lens? I mean, is it that bad in the lowlight situations? BTW. great review! I bought myself GX80+12-32mm recently for 7500Kč (290 EUR) (second hand) with almost full warranty and I'm really satisfied! Díky za případnou odpověď!:)
Ďakujem, áno, AF na 20mm nie je nič moc v slabom svetle a halvne nefunguje AF-C.
@@TheHybridShooter Jasně, ale je to až moc omezující, nebo se s tím dá žít? Sport fotit nebudu, rychle pohybující obejkty taky ne... AF-C jsem zatím ani nepoužíval:)
Mne osobne to nevadí, na bežné fotenie je to OK.
@@TheHybridShooter Ok, díky, to jsem chtěl slyšet!:)
Disappoint when Panasonic down grade the GX8 to GX9. Really hope it will upgrade GX8 to have G9 photography feature in a small body like EM5 iii. 6.5 stop, weather seal, flip screen. Love G9 but I believe lots of user also like to have a small body with great feature. I understand the size and grip of G9 is better balance to use long lens. But small and great is what I expect with m43 system. GX10 maybe?
No, that won't happen, you can't have G9 features in GX9 body, especially not the 6.5 stop IBIS. GX9 is not a successor of GX8, but it is isn't a downgrade, it is more modern camera with different feature set.
G95 or GX9
im bidding on both
#Panasonic should pay you commission. We bought the GX9 partially thanks to your reviews : ) Any advice for beginners?
Hi, thanks for the great review. I've got the gx80 which I enjoy using. I'm considering the 20mm pancake lens. How do you find the autofocus speed? I'm currently using the Olympic 25mm 1.8 for family photos indoors which includes children
The autofocus is not great on that one. 25mm F1.7 or 15mm F1.7 have better AF.
You have a new subscriber for that "Hello my friends"
Hi. What flashes work in the hotshoe? Olympus? Canon? Thanks!
I had this camera for a year now and it took time for me to appreciate it: I think it's the 20mm that gives it a purpose, and the 15mm if you can stand the focal length. I bought a Pen-F recently and I can't decide which I like more: Olympus has better viewfinder and fun analog mode color option in the front, but the GX9 can do almost the same if you use the touchscreen. These cameras complement each other, because of tilty Vs flippy screen and tilting viewfinder. The only thing neither of them likes are large zoom lenses: gx9 has the better front grip but the Pen F has better rear one and better wheels. I think Olympus 75mm is the limit here. Buying extra grips improve the situation but defies the meaning of these small rangefinder style bodies. Image quality is the same.
I actually use Leica 12-60 on the GX9 most of the time and don't really mind the size / balance. It is probably a matter of preference.
@@TheHybridShooter12/60 is still not a big lens (for a zoom) imo, through if you use something like the 12/40 f2.8, or larger, things become a big tricky.
For the GX9 I prefer the 20mm and the super small but capable 12/32 kit lens it came with which makes it almost pocketable