Nadia is an amazing human being. She also has a fantastic poker face so she can easily hide how she truly feels. Nobody has ever seen her cry in public for example. She makes sure nobody can ever see her cry or be sad in front of the cameras. Remember how Bela said he could never tell how Nadia was feeling? Bela said that Nadia was the only gymnast he ever trained who never broke down or cried after his grueling coaching which pushed the envelope in being abusive. He was never able to make Nadia cry while he was able to do so to all his other gymnasts. Nadia always hid her feelings, sucked it up, and said "Let's do this."
I still think Nadia's precise, measured technique has never been equalled. Her back handsprings on the beam? Total extension, absolute confidence, have never been bettered. Thank you Nadia, you influenced so many young girls and gave them something to really aim for x.
I don't think we've seen better back-handsprings since then, or better front aerials, or better side aerial back handsprings. She did side a aerial hack-handspring move look like it was as easy as a forward roll - which is the secret to being a true champion. No one that i have ever seen had the confidence on beam that Nadia did. Even with top performers these days (and back then) you always see some hesitation because that is one difficult apparatus to calm your nerves before a crowd.
Shawn Johnson is the most confident beam worker I've ever seen: she's so brave it's mental! But I'm old fashioned: I like the grace of the late 1970s and 1980s gymnasts. I hope it comes back into fashion again!
Nadia had a light beautiful grace that reminds me of dance, like ballet. Her landings were soft and flips were perfection athletically but with such artistic lines with pointed toes it was so beautiful. Simone Biles is also a graceful flipper. Nadia was even lighter and more graceful though I think. It must take a lot of muscle to make it look so light and effortless. I can’t imagine the training.
@@tammylee6600 Nadia gets a little bit of an edge because she was using original, old Olympics equipment. Solid wood beams with no springs attached and no padded coverings that really made Shawn and Simone look a little better than they really are (don't get me wrong they would still get golds but the springs and pads on the balance beam are like a cheat code for today's gymnasts). The floor for the floor exercise was HARD until after the Moscow Olympics also. Nadia and the other gymnasts back then were doing tumbles and routines on hard floors. It was like landing on concrete. Today's gymnasts have another cheat code with the trampoline springs under the floors. It gives them a 25% higher jump than if on a hard floor so just remember that when you see Nadia's Montreal and Moscow Olympics floor routines where she makes it look so graceful and is doing tumbles like today's trampoline springs floors. The vault landing space was hard like concrete also. They didn't add the 4 feet thick cushions until much later so it is really unfair to criticize Nadia or Nellie or Olga for taking a small half step after landing a vault on a hard floor. The quality of the uneven bars was poor back then compared to now also. Olga started the whole acrobatic revolution in gymnastics but Nadia is the Picasso of women's gymnastics. Nobody can compare. Does anybody really doubt that prime Nadia would not be able to master trampoline springs in floors and balance beams with padded coverings and springs added? She did what she did with really old original pre-modern equipment!
Nadia is so humble that she says that she thinks none of her routines in 1976 deserved perfect 10s. HUMBLE!!!! She always harshly criticizes herself whenever she is shown her old 1976 perfect 10s.
Fantastic documentary! Loved all the old footage. I totally idolized her as a kid and she has been such a huge influence on my life. Had the honor of meeting her in person once, a dream come true!
I think it is so cool she decided to be an American citizen and she loves living in Oklahoma. America has loved her since 1976 and we will always love her. She is lucky to have Bart Conner as her husband.
I totally agree about the 2 russian ex-gymnasts. Their comments were mean and bitter. For a contrast, Nadia did not say a word about the soviets robbing her of the 2nd Olympic title... You rock Nadia
They were so salty. Nadia is so cool and humble. She won two golds and two silvers at 1980 Moscow. I mean she even said that she completely screwed up the uneven bars on the first day and it was a miracle the Romanian team even got silver. No other female gymnast in 1980 Moscow won 2 golds and 2 silvers like Nadia did, which according to the IOC tiebreaker rules for medal tables means she was the most decorated female gymnast of the Moscow Olympics. Everyone always tells her she should have won 1 or 2 more golds and 1980 was a failure but she says "I won 2 gold individual medals...How many girls in history can say they won 2 gold individual medals at a single Olympic Games in gymnastics?"
Lizzie Beth unfortunately it seems his drive and desire for her success was by far more about his own success to the point that Yelena was just a tool for his success. When you listen to how he’d talk to her in training it was disgusting but unfortunately Yelena even though hurt by his words would accept them. She had no one to turn to for guidance and advice, no mother, no father, no brothers and sisters. My heart breaks when I watch Yelena.
Oh dear Olga, you certainly let yourself down here. In 1972 gymnastics was focused on you and not the great Ludmila who actually won, then in 1976, Nadia came along and she was the darling of that olympics. If the judges thought you were the best, they would've given you the first Olympic 10, but you weren't. You were a fantastic and beautiful gymnast to watch, but humbleness and humility is a wonderful thing.
Olga is right when she says it was propaganda. Nadia did good in 1976 but Olga did better than that in 1972. Nelli is also right about the mistakes Nadia made. We can see in the video that some of Nadia's landing were not perfect as she slip a little. I like Nadia a lot but in my opinion Korbut was more powerful in 1972.
@@mariojack The Soviets constantly strongarmed beaten gymnasts onto the podium anyway. That's propaganda. Judges being dazzled maybe by a supposedly perfect gymnast is biased at worst, certainly not propaganda. And a sport that is judged by humans will never result in perfect agreement anyway. I know it's not the individual gymnasts fault, but it's a bit rich of the (Ex) Soviets to cry foul so easily. Pot kettle and so on.
@@mariojack , as a German girl back in 1972 I remember Olga Korbut well! And I agree with you that Olga in Munich was better in many ways than Nadia in Montreal - mainly because Olga had much more charisma than Nadia, the earnest child performer. But I always saw her as a little robot. Olga does come off as bitter, though. I think that this has a lot do with Olga's life after her athletic career was over. She did not have a particularly good life, while Nadia managed to do very well for herself. Maybe, her discipline and work ethics were a great asset, while Olga was always mentally far more unstable.
@@sabineb.5616 Olga 1972 was not as good as Nadia 1976 at all. And the difference between them both is Nadia backed up her Montreal performance with TWO GOLDS in Moscow 1980. Notice how Olga tried to make excuses for her poor performance in Montreal 1976 by saying "I was only focused on team gold in 1976". Pretty pathetic whining by her. And before anybody claims that Olga's life was worse than Nadia's after they retired from gymnastics, remember that Nadia was the most famous Romanian, even more famous than the dictator Ceaucescu. Nadia was a prisoner of the Romanian government and banned from leaving Romania starting in 1981 except for the 1984 Olympics where the U.S. government and Romania made a deal to give Nadia back to the Romanian government if she tried to defect (Remember that Romania was the only Warsaw Pact nation to participate in 1984 because Romania by this time in the Cold War was more like Yugoslavia than a Soviet puppet). Nadia was physically and sexually abused by Nicu Ceaucescu, the son of the Romanian dictator. Nicu considered Nadia to be his favorite sex slave and he would torture and execute anybody who Nadia would date and become her boyfriend. Nadia's mom confirmed that Nadia would have bruises all over her body and even had her fingernails removed by Nicu. THAT was why Nadia was so desperate to leave Romania which she did in 1989. Then she was abused by the guy who helped her escape Romania. He ended up using her to make $$$ and he stole all her money. He abused her too but when Nadia is asked about what this guy and Nicu Ceaucescu did to her she always deflects and then says she doesn't want to talk about it. It was only after she moved to Oklahoma to be with American Olympic gold medalist Bart Conner in 1991 when Nadia's life became happy and stable. And they both are still together and happily ever after in Oklahoma with a son.
@@mariojack Korbut's landings weren't perfect either. And back then they always landed on HARD FLOORS. The trampoline spring floors and springs landing mats didn't exist until the 1984 Olympics. Back then they weren't judged on landings due to the hard floors. They judged only the performance and the spins and flips while landing. Nowadays they have like 4 feet thick springed landing pads, so it is laughable to compare today's landings with 1970s/80s landings. What was actual propaganda was when the Soviets rigged the Moscow 1980 women's all-around where Nadia was in first place but then after 30 minutes they decided to award it to the Soviet who was not as good as Nadia. And it is funny seeing Olga make excuses as to why she was shitty in the 1976 Olympics. She could have put more effort to get some individual gold and silver like Nadia worked hard for in 1980 but Olga instead whines and says she was "focused more on team gold" in 1976. She is so fake. Nellie, OTOH, is lovely and while she is a little bitter she isn't as angry as Olga at all. It also helps Nellie to smile about her rivalry with Nadia due to Nellie tying Nadia in the floor event in 1980 for gold when Nellie did not deserve gold at all.
Nadia is soooo humble. Olga and Nellie are such bitter and angry old women. I think they are even angrier at how Nadia's life is so perfect now compared to their sad lives when compared to Nadia and it shows in their responses.
Nadia you’re such an inspiration You’re the type of role model I want my future children to have 😍💕🤗 I must say that the way your teammates celebrate your accomplishments is beyond words It demonstrates that you were determined disciplined a hard worker They have the most respect for you just like your coach Exceptional athlete ❤️❤️❤️
You obviously never lived when Olga captured our hearts in the 1972 Olympics if you said something like that! I will tell you that my sister asked me to build a 4" balance beam in our basement so she could try and mimic Olga in the mid 70's and she truly wanted to try and mimic Olga.
@Oneguin65 - exactly - the answer to your question is Zero. OK needs to look up the definition of the word. Even more importantly why would Nadia even care? She was there to win the Olympic AA medal and who knows if she thought she would change history in the process, but whatever OK is saying 40 years later is nonsense.
She’s a legend Always will be Some people just mark an era and their outstanding personality shines through and lives on What else is there to be said about Nadia
I'm so happy Nadia has a happy life now. Even she thinks it is so random and bizarre how she somehow ended up married to an American (two time Olympic gold medalist Bart Conner) and lives in Oklahoma.
I agree with Nellie. That is true to sports like figure skating, rhythmic gymnastics, especially diving. This is why star athletes are called star athletes. They have a certain degree of influence. However, Olga, I know you were the best when you were in your top form, but when Nadia emerged, you already passed your prime. Please understand this or you will never be happy. Nadia achieved the best amongst her compatriots during her prime, and she deserved all the compliments.
@@ihatecats1483 Nope. Simone Biles is a quitter in the 2021 Olympics and couldn't back up her first golden Olympics. Nadia OTOH in 1980 Moscow beat a bunch of talented Soviets and East Germans and also beat a rigged judging system in 1980 and still was the most decorated female gymnast in the 1980 Olympics. She won 2 golds and 2 silvers. No other woman could say they won at least 2 golds and at least 2 silvers.
Nobody else can beat her. Simone Biles is awesome too but nobody can top Nadia ever. Simone has a bunch of cheat codes with modern equipment, also. The balance beam nowadays is fully padded/covered and has springs! The floor has trampoline springs that adds an extra 25% lift compared to the pre-trampoline floor era. Nadia's whole career was spent solely on solid wood beams with no pads, no covers, and no springs and the floor for the floor exercise was solid hard with no springs at all underneath. They added the springs in the floor around the time of the 1984 Olympics in L.A. Today's gymnasts would be too chicken to dare do routines on uncovered, no springs wooden balance beams and hard floors with no trampoline springs like Nadia did.
It's nice to see her laugh and have a sense of humor. When she was doing gymnastics, she seemed so serious and stoic, but I understand that she was "at work" and had to keep her game face on, but this side of her I really like.
Looking at this I don't think both of the soviet gymnasts are throwing shade. While Olga comes off as bitter, I think Nellie Kim's commentaries have been acceptable. It's her opinion that Nadia won the '76 Olympics because she was better prepared psychologically, and from all we've been presented it may be true. Nadia seems to have been 100% there mentally, concentrated on doing her best and her resolve knew no parallel, so I don't take that as a downplay of her skills (it might very well be the defining character trait that set her apart). It also goes well with Bella's statements about Nadia as a person and her approach to this sport. And this is coming from a Romanian. But still, Olga, that shade tho, wow...
Olga is so salty because Nadia was better than Olga in every form. Olga might have pioneered the new modern style of gymnastics but Nadia perfected it. Olga's balance beam routines for example pale compared to Nadia. Nadia doing all those flips on the balance beam, the hardest event for women, was revolutionary back then and still is revolutionary. The gymnasts today can do so many flips on the balance beam but they still wobble. Nadia barely wobbled if ever on the balance beam. And, well, Nellie Kim shared gold with Nadia for the floor exercise in Moscow 1980 so that is why she is more than happy to smile and offer to hug Nadia and praise her. Olga OTOH thought that she was supposed to be the Nadia of her generation and she was angry that this random 14 year old Romanian took her revolutionary ideas from 1972 and made them better. Olga I think was so angry that she didn't get the magazine covers, no Olga's theme, and no perfect 10s like Nadia. People need to realize that Olga was the alternate or the last member to qualify for the 1972 Munich Olympics. She has always had a huge chip on her shoulder because they all labeled her as the black sheep of the 1972 Soviet women's gymnastics team. The other Soviet girls and coaches didn't like Olga at all in 1972. She mind as well have been competing for a different country initially because it was only after her haul of gold medals and silver medal in 1972 did the Soviet gymnastics community and Soviet citizens love Olga.
She and Kim are so jealous of Nadia's life now. Nadia is living the dream life right now with her American husband Bart and they live in Oklahoma running so many lucrative businesses involving gymnastics. These old communist-era gymnasts from eastern Europe are so jealous how perfect Nadia's life is now. They thought they would get revenge on Nadia by having a better retirement life than Nadia but Nadia turned it around in the 1990s and found peace and happiness after a hellish life in 1980s Romania.
I think that, before saying anything, we shoud all take into consideration that she was only 14 and a half. fourteen.... I mean come on....and from Romania. what she did was truly amazing and no one will ever do again. not so soon
antonela bakavic Because they aren’t allowed to.. you Now must be turning 16 in the year of the Olympics to compete in Gymnastics...but even she said 1979 was her BEST year...so 17 then. She got screwed in 80 by Russian judges, grr Simone Biles could have gone to London in 2012, physically ready except she turned 15 that year...we will never know now but it IS awfully intense for a young girl! Simone is a tiny woman so she’ll be 23 in 2021!
@@micheleclark59 And...Simone choked in 2021. I know she had the whole Larry Nassar deal that messed her up but last year a Romanian book confirmed that Nadia was also beaten and starved and abused all the time too by Bela Karolyi. That Romanian book confirms everything with actual communist-era secret police records and even recordings in the late 1970s of Nadia in bugged hotel rooms telling people that Bela abuses her! Nadia worked with the author to confirm or deny what happened with Bela (the confirmed by Nadia parts are described in the book) in exchange for nothing to be mentioned about her being abused and becoming a sex slave for Nicu Ceaucescu, the son of the Romanian communist dictator, in the book.
thank you ! great documentary I loved Olga Nelli and Nadia I believe at that time they were the best together with Turisheva But of course Korbut and Comaneci are unforgettable and remain the stars of Gymnsatic ever!
Nellie Kim and Olga Korbut with 2 very jealous comments. So sad that they being 2 great gymnasts from the Soviet Union could not acknowledge that someone from another country that was more precise in her performance came along and outscored them on a regular basis. At least the Russian National coach who lost her job following the drop in performance of the national team was honest when stating that it was not her fault that Nadia Comaneci was born in Romania. She was not bitter like Kim and Korbut.
@@takerkellygiveusbacktupac617 Well I mean they got beaten by Nadia while they all were competing and they are still getting beaten by Nadia in their retirement years. They are so jealous of Nadia's dream-like life in Oklahoma with her husband, two-time Olympic gold medalist gymnast American Bart Conner, where Nadia and Bart are owners and CEOs of so many lucrative gymnastics-related businesses and have both turned Oklahoma into a powerhouse training center for American men's and women's gymnastics. They both were probably laughing at Nadia when Nadia was suffering in 1980s Romania to the point where she was forced to defect and run away from Romania and are completely shocked how Nadia pulled a Houdini trick during the 1990s to where she is now.
I don't understand the bitterness and shade from Olga and Nelli. They were Olympic champions in their own right who also had an impact on the sport of gymnastics. Why the jealousy of Nadia's achievements?
Because Nadia embarrassed both of them in 1976 and 1980. Nadia even with rigged judges against her in Moscow was the most decorated female Olympic gymnast in 1980 Moscow. She won 2 golds and 2 silvers. No other 1980 gymnast did better than Nadia's 2 golds, 2 silvers. Also they are bitter how perfect Nadia's life is now. Nadia is married to the very rich Bart Conner, a two time Olympic gold medalist American gymnast, and she lives a beautiful, happy life in Oklahoma now. Nadia has all the documentaries, movies, and even a song revolving around her. They are all thinking, "Why do people love Nadia so much???" It seems they refuse to learn about Nadia's hellish life in 1980s Romania when she was a sex slave of the dictator's son. The extreme abuse that she suffered was why she had to escape Romania.
Nadia was and will always be my role model and favourite person. The greatest EVER. There will never be another Nadia; they happen once in a lifetime.Bravo Nadia♥♥
Erin Yurchenko I feel badly for her...she was very talented but pushed too hard. She put on a show performing, but recall what her 1st thought was as she lay on the floor w a broken neck... 😢
@@pedestrianrights1257 they were both jealous and bitter. They were the darlings of the sport until a 14 year old came in and changed the entire landscape of gymnastics
@@takerkellygiveusbacktupac617 Yeah Nadia changed the landscape, but then again, Olga Korbut change the landscape too, in '72. ... Nobody ever really has a monopoly on "changing the landscape" in ANY field... *Let me ask you something, DID Nadia introduce routines that were so difficult, DANGEROUS and spectacular that they had to be BANNED due to people getting killed & injured trying to copy them?? No. BUT, Olga Korbut introduce exactly those moves!* Perhaps Nadia was more talented than Olga, BUT, i'd say Olga was more of a pioneer (if you know what a pioneer is) than Nadia was. Also, everybody says that SINCE Olga Korbut, Gymnasts had become smaller (just that fact alone speaks volumes as the the impact of Olga Korbut).
@@pedestrianrights1257 Nadia was the pioneer. Compare Nadia's balance beam routines in 1976 with Olga's very mediocre balance beam routines in 1972. The balance beam is the hardest event in women's gymnastics and Nadia is out there doing floor routine level tricks on the beam while Olga was wobbling and not doing those tricks in 1972 Munich. In fact Nadia's balance beam routines hold up well with even today's gymnasts especially because Nadia had no springs and no padded/covered balance beams like today's gymnasts. Olga is a Model T compared to Nadia's Apollo/Space Shuttle. Olga was a pioneer in terms of something new like a car but Nadia went to outer space. And why was Olga so crappy in 1976? Hearing her make excuses for her poor 1976 Montreal individual performances was hilarious! Nadia instead of only living off of 1976 Montreal was the best performing women's gymnast in the 1980 Moscow Olympics. She confirmed that she is the greatest at Moscow. Even with a rigged group of judges against her she still won two golds and two silvers. She was the only female gymnast to win 2 golds and 2 silvers in 1980 Moscow. Nobody else could match her there.
I just wish people would not judge these young girls in their person the way they do as gymnasts. All of these girls were great and good athletes. Among the best who have ever lived.
She did and had everything she wanted and even more than her couch could dream. She had charm, determinaton, lot of luck, alnong witj her couch ,bouth find themselves on the right time and place to do the whole inovation on gymnastic.
Olga should only be upset at herself for not trying hard in the individual events in 1976 Montreal. Her excuse in this documentary was "I was focused solely on team gold"? What????
Popa Elek Ioan SOME people are BORN that way...she’s a Scorpio! They are secretive and tend to hide emotions! She found her niche young! I raised a Scorpio son, I remembered he needed to be free to make his choses and he’s done very well! The rest of us are works in progress most of our lives!
Says NK - ..."Nadia was prepared better psychologically....that's why she won" I mean, I really like NK, but both she and OK come off as a bit ruffled after all these years of Nadia winning hugely over them for many years. How about this angle, Nadia won because she is extremely talented, worked very hard (harder than her coaches asked her to), wasn't afraid to try new and difficult skills (that no one had ever ventured to try), and pulled off stunning upsets? Nadia was clearly the better technically prepared performer and could execute skills like no other gymnast. That's why she won! Also, I think OK should look up the definition of propaganda.
I think NK and OK say the reality. Nadia is inflated by Media, because Nelly Kim got the FIRST TEN too, in vault and Floor and in the same Olympic games, and Media do not mentioned it. And why Nadia did not continue to competing??? She was like a comet.
@Luisa No, to all the above, except that NK did receive two tens in the same Olympics, but only after Nadia scored the first 10.0 in Olympic history and made it so obvious that her score was in fact perfect that the judges had no choice. A 10.0 never crossed a judge’s mind (or the creator of the scoreboard for that matter!). OK and NK tell an old story like someone who was bumped unfairly out of a medal or championship or something. Really? Tell that to Nadia regarding the 1980 Olympics. Nadia never complained - (ever) and then you have these two complaining 40 years later about - what exactly? Let it rest already. Does OK think she ever stood even a tiny chance against Nadia on 1976? Nadia was by far the technically superior gymnast, and should have been scored 10.5 and 11.0 if you compare difficulty in beam and bar routines. What do you mean by “not continuing to compete”? Nadia won the European Gymnastics Championships 3(!) times - a hat trick that no other female gymnast has pulled off. That’s being the best for 6 years. That is not a comet. That is more like a long-range space ship going around the entire galaxy and back to remain at an elite competition level that long in an endurance sport like gymnastics. She kept improving over the years - 1979 was her best year - amazing shape and upgraded routines for all events.
Olga isn't far off with her propaganda comment.....up until then, women had been competing in Olympic gymnastics and then they let this 14 year old kid in to compete against 18, 19, 20 something year olds!!! No fair! 14 year olds have an advantage because they are lighter and faster since they're still kids, not to mention with girls, their training and diet delays puberty....why do you think the Chinese were lying about their team's ages? Notice how the 18 year old Nadia performs vs the 14 year old. From Nadia on, it's been disguised as women's gymnastics when in fact it became GIRLS gymnastics......yes propaganda and a very clever one. The great Larissa Latynina and Vera Caslavska were women (21yrs old or 22 yrs old) when they competed in their very first Olympics!!! Now that's WOMEN'S gymnastics!!
Nadia deserved the floor gold in 1980. The Soviets rigged it to where Nellie tied with her though. Nellie's final floor event routine including a terrible landing on her final tumble (had to take two steps to stabilize and it was not a small wobble) was very poor yet she somehow got a 9.95.
Nadia owned their asses back then and still owns their asses. Nadia lives a dream-like life in Oklahoma with her husband Bart Conner who is a two-time gold medal Olympian American gymnast, haha. You thought these former Eastern European Olympic gymnasts couldn't get even angrier at Nadia?
"I like to wrk hard, I find my motivation? I don't like to quit when it is hard? Sounds kinda boring?" And yet so much humility, not wanting to attribute her achievements to some secret formula, unlike what Nellie Kim alluded to....
Nadia, of course, has no equal. But I also loved Nellie Kim. I thought she was the best Soviet gymnast in history. I know others may not agree but she sure looked like she was to me. I was glad that she was put in the Hall Of Fame as early as she was. She deserved it.
I agree with you , I hated Nadia mania and loved Nellie Kim. I think she was so underrated , and overlooked by the USSR in favour of other gymnasts. Each time though her hard work and elegant performances proved them wrong. Wander what she might have achieved if she had been given the same backing by the USSR as Nadia was given by the Romanians
I'm sorry but the Soviets complaining about Nadia getting preferential treatment when the Soviets at that time constantly strongarmed a beaten Gymnast onto the podium anyway is just funny to me.
It is shameful to listen to soviet Olga Korbut and Nellie Kim saying that Nadia was the winner because of her psychological strength or that judges forgave her errors because of propaganda. They have such envy and hate towards Nadia that makes them look ridiculous through those statements. Olga, Nellie, ADMIT IT - NADIA WAS WAY BETTER AND SHE WAS THE ONE TO GET THE FIRST TEN EVER. She is the BEST GYMNAST in History and you both look ridiculously jealous. She had the talent, a strong mind, a gifted body, a natural elegance, such perfection performing and charisma ... A true glory like Ludmila Tourischeva is the only one who admits it. Olga and Nellie, keep lying to yourselves ...
Toda una leyenda, Nadia Comaneci, hermosas sus presentaciones. Felicitaciones por su talento, una niña muy aplicada, aunque no me gustó cuando su delegación se retiro y Nadia no se quedó a recoger su medalla de oro, lo cual no me pareció justo para su esfuerzo de Nadia.... ❤️❤️❤️
11:40 loved her,I don't know why but reminded me to Olga K lol Love you Nadia, great gymnast and also,a very kind person.I love Teodora too ,I would like to see how was her friendship with Nadia.I think it was ,for sure sometimes conflictive (I would have liked see on this doc. Ludmilla Tourischeva ,I think she is more impartial and fair that her soviet teammates)
Bitterness or not, she is somewhat true..maybe not in that case, but gymnastics is a subjective sport, the judges are human, they know who is performing and they know the gymnast's most important titles. There are some examples of today's gymnastics..Jordyn Wieber was gifted huge scores in the USA, Mustafina is gifted everywhere she goes and so on. They arguably deserved those gifts, but nevertheless, they were gifted.
I wonder if Nadia and her childhood best friend and team mate Teodora have a video being together againafter her defection or reunion like documentaries.
It really disappoints me that they never mention the fact that she lived in Montreal for a year and a half before moving to the States after her defection.
I think when Nadia agreed to do the documentary and interview she guaranteed that they would not talk about that Constantine guy, a Romanian expat from Florida, who physically and sexually abused Nadia and stole her money. Look up all of Nadia's interviews in 1989 and 1990. What a shitshow and circus that was. That saga was like watching Jerry Springer.
@@shushunovafan4301 They took half an hour because they wanted to rig the all-around against Nadia, which she deserved. They didn't deduct for steps during dismounts back then because they landed on HARD FLOORS, not on the springs cushions like the modern gymnasts have. It's why Nadia being able to do the routines back then was impressive with no padded/springs balance beam and no trampoline springs on the floor like how it has been added since 1984 L.A.
Only a few fleeting glimpses of her in background, like a ghost whose name cannot be spoken, not even one mention of the 1978 World AA champion, 1977 European AA second place and twelve time medallist in two Euros and one Worlds.
I think Olga has a point on this, and it’s something I’ve heard others say who were around for that period in gymnastics. Back then, judges refused to give 10s because they always believed there was always room for improvement, and that was reflected in the score board - it was never meant to reflect a 10. After the 72 Olympic Games, a new panel of judges were brought out and 10s were given. I like Nadia, but I’ve seen her later routines and she fumbles on some, not much, but does fumble, and she’s awarded a 10 anyway.
actually I just watched another documentary that explains the exploitation of Olga Korbut by the Soviet govt. Between 1972 and 1976 they had her travel everywhere to represent the govt. So by 1976, she was worn out. Interesting..its in the Faster Higher Stronger BBC doc. Btw, I was an immediate fan of Nadia when she performed in 1976. I was a gymnast and 12 at the time ;) Still have my scrapbooks.
Yes I agree Olga was worn out by 1976 and by her own admission she didn't want to compete. She said in her book she had to take out some of her best elements as she was injured. If she had been healthy she might have beat Nadia or Filatova might had she made the all round
Back then steps after landing were allowed because the landing mats were HARD FLOORS. They didn't have thick springs and cushions like today's gymnasts have for landing mats. They judged them on everything else except the landing steps. Compare Nadia 1980 balance beam with Olga 1972 balance beam. Olga's balance beams were a JOKE compared to Nadia. Balance beam is the hardest women's event and Nadia was the first to do all those complex flips and spins on the balance beam. In fact Nadia's balance beam routines hold up very well with modern gymnasts. The good balance beam gymnasts today look kind of shitty compared to Nadia and Nadia had to work with solid wood beams with no springs and no coverings on the beams. You should be talking more about the criminal fact that Nadia was in 1st place at the end of all-around but the Soviet-dominated judges talked for 30 minutes and then advanced a Soviet to 1st place and Nadia got silver.
Nadia is pretty humble for someone who was as talented as she was. Most people would say they are the best.
Yeah, like FLOYD MAYWEATHER, and LeBRON JAMES.
Nadia is an amazing human being. She also has a fantastic poker face so she can easily hide how she truly feels. Nobody has ever seen her cry in public for example. She makes sure nobody can ever see her cry or be sad in front of the cameras. Remember how Bela said he could never tell how Nadia was feeling? Bela said that Nadia was the only gymnast he ever trained who never broke down or cried after his grueling coaching which pushed the envelope in being abusive. He was never able to make Nadia cry while he was able to do so to all his other gymnasts. Nadia always hid her feelings, sucked it up, and said "Let's do this."
The most perfect gymnast of all time-Comaneci!
Yes!
And, the most humble! Amazing grace from this gymnast and human being!
I still think Nadia's precise, measured technique has never been equalled. Her back handsprings on the beam? Total extension, absolute confidence, have never been bettered. Thank you Nadia, you influenced so many young girls and gave them something to really aim for x.
I don't think we've seen better back-handsprings since then, or better front aerials, or better side aerial back handsprings. She did side a aerial hack-handspring move look like it was as easy as a forward roll - which is the secret to being a true champion. No one that i have ever seen had the confidence on beam that Nadia did. Even with top performers these days (and back then) you always see some hesitation because that is one difficult apparatus to calm your nerves before a crowd.
Shawn Johnson is the most confident beam worker I've ever seen: she's so brave it's mental!
But I'm old fashioned: I like the grace of the late 1970s and 1980s gymnasts. I hope it comes back into fashion again!
Nadia had a light beautiful grace that reminds me of dance, like ballet. Her landings were soft and flips were perfection athletically but with such artistic lines with pointed toes it was so beautiful. Simone Biles is also a graceful flipper. Nadia was even lighter and more graceful though I think. It must take a lot of muscle to make it look so light and effortless. I can’t imagine the training.
@@tammylee6600 Nadia gets a little bit of an edge because she was using original, old Olympics equipment. Solid wood beams with no springs attached and no padded coverings that really made Shawn and Simone look a little better than they really are (don't get me wrong they would still get golds but the springs and pads on the balance beam are like a cheat code for today's gymnasts). The floor for the floor exercise was HARD until after the Moscow Olympics also. Nadia and the other gymnasts back then were doing tumbles and routines on hard floors. It was like landing on concrete. Today's gymnasts have another cheat code with the trampoline springs under the floors. It gives them a 25% higher jump than if on a hard floor so just remember that when you see Nadia's Montreal and Moscow Olympics floor routines where she makes it look so graceful and is doing tumbles like today's trampoline springs floors. The vault landing space was hard like concrete also. They didn't add the 4 feet thick cushions until much later so it is really unfair to criticize Nadia or Nellie or Olga for taking a small half step after landing a vault on a hard floor. The quality of the uneven bars was poor back then compared to now also. Olga started the whole acrobatic revolution in gymnastics but Nadia is the Picasso of women's gymnastics. Nobody can compare.
Does anybody really doubt that prime Nadia would not be able to master trampoline springs in floors and balance beams with padded coverings and springs added? She did what she did with really old original pre-modern equipment!
Yes!
Even now Nadia defeats them with her humbleness and her sweetness!
Nadia is so humble that she says that she thinks none of her routines in 1976 deserved perfect 10s. HUMBLE!!!! She always harshly criticizes herself whenever she is shown her old 1976 perfect 10s.
Nadia Comaneci...The best of the bests...
Fantastic documentary! Loved all the old footage. I totally idolized her as a kid and she has been such a huge influence on my life. Had the honor of meeting her in person once, a dream come true!
I think it is so cool she decided to be an American citizen and she loves living in Oklahoma. America has loved her since 1976 and we will always love her. She is lucky to have Bart Conner as her husband.
Nadia, i have full respect on your hardwork,commitment n endurance! You are the greatest gymnast of all time! A Perfect 10!......from malaysia.......
Most amazing gymnast all time.
Olga and Elena and Nellie were incredible,but Nadia was Perfect!
Nibiru-You are correct.Perfect princess Nadia.Best ever.
I totally agree about the 2 russian ex-gymnasts. Their comments were mean and bitter. For a contrast, Nadia did not say a word about the soviets robbing her of the 2nd Olympic title... You rock Nadia
oh there was theft! they were at their own turf at Moscow and they did what they can to show that
They were so salty. Nadia is so cool and humble. She won two golds and two silvers at 1980 Moscow. I mean she even said that she completely screwed up the uneven bars on the first day and it was a miracle the Romanian team even got silver. No other female gymnast in 1980 Moscow won 2 golds and 2 silvers like Nadia did, which according to the IOC tiebreaker rules for medal tables means she was the most decorated female gymnast of the Moscow Olympics. Everyone always tells her she should have won 1 or 2 more golds and 1980 was a failure but she says "I won 2 gold individual medals...How many girls in history can say they won 2 gold individual medals at a single Olympic Games in gymnastics?"
3:20 I almost cried.....Yelena Mukhina sitting next to Nellie Kim. RIP Yelena, you've not been forgotten!
Yes, I also noticed Yelena sitting next to Kim and was very moved.
So sad, so tragic what happened to her.
@@peterbothwell9005 Yes it really is sad. Her coach took it too far. She was already doing great.....why push her to do such a dangerous element!
Lizzie Beth unfortunately it seems his drive and desire for her success was by far more about his own success to the point that Yelena was just a tool for his success.
When you listen to how he’d talk to her in training it was disgusting but unfortunately Yelena even though hurt by his words would accept them.
She had no one to turn to for guidance and advice, no mother, no father, no brothers and sisters.
My heart breaks when I watch Yelena.
Greatest gymnast of all time in the book, proofed it to the world "Nadia"
Propaganda from Olga?? I cant believe in her age now, she hasn't got over the fact that Nadia won and took over the fame
@Antie HSB - well, OK sold her medals so maybe she's over it now. I hope.
Nadia will ALWAYS be THE BEST! I hope to meet her someday soon. Next time I drive thru OK. City,OK. I will!
Oh dear Olga, you certainly let yourself down here. In 1972 gymnastics was focused on you and not the great Ludmila who actually won, then in 1976, Nadia came along and she was the darling of that olympics. If the judges thought you were the best, they would've given you the first Olympic 10, but you weren't. You were a fantastic and beautiful gymnast to watch, but humbleness and humility is a wonderful thing.
Olga is right when she says it was propaganda. Nadia did good in 1976 but Olga did better than that in 1972. Nelli is also right about the mistakes Nadia made. We can see in the video that some of Nadia's landing were not perfect as she slip a little. I like Nadia a lot but in my opinion Korbut was more powerful in 1972.
@@mariojack The Soviets constantly strongarmed beaten gymnasts onto the podium anyway. That's propaganda. Judges being dazzled maybe by a supposedly perfect gymnast is biased at worst, certainly not propaganda. And a sport that is judged by humans will never result in perfect agreement anyway. I know it's not the individual gymnasts fault, but it's a bit rich of the (Ex) Soviets to cry foul so easily. Pot kettle and so on.
@@mariojack , as a German girl back in 1972 I remember Olga Korbut well! And I agree with you that Olga in Munich was better in many ways than Nadia in Montreal - mainly because Olga had much more charisma than Nadia, the earnest child performer. But I always saw her as a little robot.
Olga does come off as bitter, though. I think that this has a lot do with Olga's life after her athletic career was over. She did not have a particularly good life, while Nadia managed to do very well for herself. Maybe, her discipline and work ethics were a great asset, while Olga was always mentally far more unstable.
@@sabineb.5616 Olga 1972 was not as good as Nadia 1976 at all. And the difference between them both is Nadia backed up her Montreal performance with TWO GOLDS in Moscow 1980. Notice how Olga tried to make excuses for her poor performance in Montreal 1976 by saying "I was only focused on team gold in 1976". Pretty pathetic whining by her.
And before anybody claims that Olga's life was worse than Nadia's after they retired from gymnastics, remember that Nadia was the most famous Romanian, even more famous than the dictator Ceaucescu. Nadia was a prisoner of the Romanian government and banned from leaving Romania starting in 1981 except for the 1984 Olympics where the U.S. government and Romania made a deal to give Nadia back to the Romanian government if she tried to defect (Remember that Romania was the only Warsaw Pact nation to participate in 1984 because Romania by this time in the Cold War was more like Yugoslavia than a Soviet puppet). Nadia was physically and sexually abused by Nicu Ceaucescu, the son of the Romanian dictator. Nicu considered Nadia to be his favorite sex slave and he would torture and execute anybody who Nadia would date and become her boyfriend. Nadia's mom confirmed that Nadia would have bruises all over her body and even had her fingernails removed by Nicu. THAT was why Nadia was so desperate to leave Romania which she did in 1989. Then she was abused by the guy who helped her escape Romania. He ended up using her to make $$$ and he stole all her money. He abused her too but when Nadia is asked about what this guy and Nicu Ceaucescu did to her she always deflects and then says she doesn't want to talk about it.
It was only after she moved to Oklahoma to be with American Olympic gold medalist Bart Conner in 1991 when Nadia's life became happy and stable. And they both are still together and happily ever after in Oklahoma with a son.
@@mariojack Korbut's landings weren't perfect either. And back then they always landed on HARD FLOORS. The trampoline spring floors and springs landing mats didn't exist until the 1984 Olympics. Back then they weren't judged on landings due to the hard floors. They judged only the performance and the spins and flips while landing. Nowadays they have like 4 feet thick springed landing pads, so it is laughable to compare today's landings with 1970s/80s landings.
What was actual propaganda was when the Soviets rigged the Moscow 1980 women's all-around where Nadia was in first place but then after 30 minutes they decided to award it to the Soviet who was not as good as Nadia.
And it is funny seeing Olga make excuses as to why she was shitty in the 1976 Olympics. She could have put more effort to get some individual gold and silver like Nadia worked hard for in 1980 but Olga instead whines and says she was "focused more on team gold" in 1976. She is so fake. Nellie, OTOH, is lovely and while she is a little bitter she isn't as angry as Olga at all. It also helps Nellie to smile about her rivalry with Nadia due to Nellie tying Nadia in the floor event in 1980 for gold when Nellie did not deserve gold at all.
Olga: "Hello, I'm the best!"
Nadia "I think I should let Bela say that about me... What am I gonna say about me? That I'm the best?"
Nadia is soooo humble. Olga and Nellie are such bitter and angry old women. I think they are even angrier at how Nadia's life is so perfect now compared to their sad lives when compared to Nadia and it shows in their responses.
Nadia you’re such an inspiration
You’re the type of role model I want my future children to have 😍💕🤗
I must say that the way your teammates celebrate your accomplishments is beyond words
It demonstrates that you were determined disciplined a hard worker
They have the most respect for you just like your coach
Exceptional athlete ❤️❤️❤️
Oh dear Olga...SHADE! The SHADE of it all!
I KNOW RIGHT!?!?!? HAHA
You obviously never lived when Olga captured our hearts in the 1972 Olympics if you said something like that!
I will tell you that my sister asked me to build a 4" balance beam in our basement so she could try and mimic Olga in the mid 70's and she truly wanted to try and mimic Olga.
***** Of course. She was a game changer in the 70's. However, it doesn't mean she is perfect , and she definitely was throwing shade.
Oneguin65 Huh??? Olga Korbut won 6 Olympic Medals. 4 gold and 2 silver.
@Oneguin65 - exactly - the answer to your question is Zero. OK needs to look up the definition of the word. Even more importantly why would Nadia even care? She was there to win the Olympic AA medal and who knows if she thought she would change history in the process, but whatever OK is saying 40 years later is nonsense.
She’s a legend
Always will be
Some people just mark an era and their outstanding personality shines through and lives on
What else is there to be said about Nadia
I'm so happy Nadia has a happy life now. Even she thinks it is so random and bizarre how she somehow ended up married to an American (two time Olympic gold medalist Bart Conner) and lives in Oklahoma.
There is ONE Nadia= perfection!
One of sport's greatest legends.
She truly is on the same level as Pele, Michael Jordan, and Tiger Woods. Legendary. Nobody will ever come close to her in women's gymnastics.
I love her! She's great. All an inspiration!
I agree with Nellie. That is true to sports like figure skating, rhythmic gymnastics, especially diving. This is why star athletes are called star athletes. They have a certain degree of influence. However, Olga, I know you were the best when you were in your top form, but when Nadia emerged, you already passed your prime. Please understand this or you will never be happy. Nadia achieved the best amongst her compatriots during her prime, and she deserved all the compliments.
Nadia the best ever.
Nadia.is.the.best
SIMONE BILES IS
@@ihatecats1483 Nope. Simone Biles is a quitter in the 2021 Olympics and couldn't back up her first golden Olympics. Nadia OTOH in 1980 Moscow beat a bunch of talented Soviets and East Germans and also beat a rigged judging system in 1980 and still was the most decorated female gymnast in the 1980 Olympics. She won 2 golds and 2 silvers. No other woman could say they won at least 2 golds and at least 2 silvers.
Nadia is a fantastic gymnast, a very strong person and a very good person .
Comaneci:Still the greatest all time
Nobody else can beat her. Simone Biles is awesome too but nobody can top Nadia ever. Simone has a bunch of cheat codes with modern equipment, also. The balance beam nowadays is fully padded/covered and has springs! The floor has trampoline springs that adds an extra 25% lift compared to the pre-trampoline floor era. Nadia's whole career was spent solely on solid wood beams with no pads, no covers, and no springs and the floor for the floor exercise was solid hard with no springs at all underneath. They added the springs in the floor around the time of the 1984 Olympics in L.A.
Today's gymnasts would be too chicken to dare do routines on uncovered, no springs wooden balance beams and hard floors with no trampoline springs like Nadia did.
I love you nadia!!!!
It's nice to see her laugh and have a sense of humor. When she was doing gymnastics, she seemed so serious and stoic, but I understand that she was "at work" and had to keep her game face on, but this side of her I really like.
Looking at this I don't think both of the soviet gymnasts are throwing shade. While Olga comes off as bitter, I think Nellie Kim's commentaries have been acceptable. It's her opinion that Nadia won the '76 Olympics because she was better prepared psychologically, and from all we've been presented it may be true. Nadia seems to have been 100% there mentally, concentrated on doing her best and her resolve knew no parallel, so I don't take that as a downplay of her skills (it might very well be the defining character trait that set her apart). It also goes well with Bella's statements about Nadia as a person and her approach to this sport.
And this is coming from a Romanian.
But still, Olga, that shade tho, wow...
Olga is so salty because Nadia was better than Olga in every form. Olga might have pioneered the new modern style of gymnastics but Nadia perfected it. Olga's balance beam routines for example pale compared to Nadia. Nadia doing all those flips on the balance beam, the hardest event for women, was revolutionary back then and still is revolutionary. The gymnasts today can do so many flips on the balance beam but they still wobble. Nadia barely wobbled if ever on the balance beam.
And, well, Nellie Kim shared gold with Nadia for the floor exercise in Moscow 1980 so that is why she is more than happy to smile and offer to hug Nadia and praise her. Olga OTOH thought that she was supposed to be the Nadia of her generation and she was angry that this random 14 year old Romanian took her revolutionary ideas from 1972 and made them better. Olga I think was so angry that she didn't get the magazine covers, no Olga's theme, and no perfect 10s like Nadia.
People need to realize that Olga was the alternate or the last member to qualify for the 1972 Munich Olympics. She has always had a huge chip on her shoulder because they all labeled her as the black sheep of the 1972 Soviet women's gymnastics team. The other Soviet girls and coaches didn't like Olga at all in 1972. She mind as well have been competing for a different country initially because it was only after her haul of gold medals and silver medal in 1972 did the Soviet gymnastics community and Soviet citizens love Olga.
Korbut is VERY self absorbed. At a very old age, she's still living in her own bubble. Such a pity.
She and Kim are so jealous of Nadia's life now. Nadia is living the dream life right now with her American husband Bart and they live in Oklahoma running so many lucrative businesses involving gymnastics. These old communist-era gymnasts from eastern Europe are so jealous how perfect Nadia's life is now. They thought they would get revenge on Nadia by having a better retirement life than Nadia but Nadia turned it around in the 1990s and found peace and happiness after a hellish life in 1980s Romania.
Awesome-Nadia is the perfect gymnast!
I think that, before saying anything, we shoud all take into consideration that she was only 14 and a half. fourteen.... I mean come on....and from Romania. what she did was truly amazing and no one will ever do again. not so soon
antonela bakavic Because they aren’t allowed to.. you Now must be turning 16 in the year of the Olympics to compete in Gymnastics...but even she said 1979 was her BEST year...so 17 then. She got screwed in 80 by Russian judges, grr
Simone Biles could have gone to London in 2012, physically ready except she turned 15 that year...we will never know now but it IS awfully intense for a young girl! Simone is a tiny woman so she’ll be 23 in 2021!
@@micheleclark59 And...Simone choked in 2021. I know she had the whole Larry Nassar deal that messed her up but last year a Romanian book confirmed that Nadia was also beaten and starved and abused all the time too by Bela Karolyi. That Romanian book confirms everything with actual communist-era secret police records and even recordings in the late 1970s of Nadia in bugged hotel rooms telling people that Bela abuses her! Nadia worked with the author to confirm or deny what happened with Bela (the confirmed by Nadia parts are described in the book) in exchange for nothing to be mentioned about her being abused and becoming a sex slave for Nicu Ceaucescu, the son of the Romanian communist dictator, in the book.
Esti si vei ramane cea mai buna. GBY
NE-AI ADUS ASA DE MULTA BUCURIE IN SUFLETELE NOASTRE.MULTUMIM NADIA
Cea mai tare Româncă Nadia Comăneci
thank you ! great documentary
I loved Olga Nelli and Nadia I believe at that time they were the best together with Turisheva But of course Korbut and Comaneci are unforgettable and remain the stars of Gymnsatic ever!
Nellie Kim and Olga Korbut with 2 very jealous comments. So sad that they being 2 great gymnasts from the Soviet Union could not acknowledge that someone from another country that was more precise in her performance came along and outscored them on a regular basis.
At least the Russian National coach who lost her job following the drop in performance of the national team was honest when stating that it was not her fault that Nadia Comaneci was born in Romania. She was not bitter like Kim and Korbut.
No more respect for Kim or Korbut
They sounded bitter and jealous
@@takerkellygiveusbacktupac617 Well I mean they got beaten by Nadia while they all were competing and they are still getting beaten by Nadia in their retirement years. They are so jealous of Nadia's dream-like life in Oklahoma with her husband, two-time Olympic gold medalist gymnast American Bart Conner, where Nadia and Bart are owners and CEOs of so many lucrative gymnastics-related businesses and have both turned Oklahoma into a powerhouse training center for American men's and women's gymnastics. They both were probably laughing at Nadia when Nadia was suffering in 1980s Romania to the point where she was forced to defect and run away from Romania and are completely shocked how Nadia pulled a Houdini trick during the 1990s to where she is now.
Nadia the best!
Shame on you Olga and Nellie.Just be happy for Nadia.We all are.
She is so beautiful inside an out.
Nadia-the ultimate champion!
I love Nadia too... I had such a crush on her way back then...God help me! I pray she is OK these days!
@Donaldo Ron Oh good! Thanks!
Perfectionist!
NADIA COMANECI,
BRAVA UN CUORICINO,
❤
I don't understand the bitterness and shade from Olga and Nelli. They were Olympic champions in their own right who also had an impact on the sport of gymnastics. Why the jealousy of Nadia's achievements?
Because Nadia embarrassed both of them in 1976 and 1980. Nadia even with rigged judges against her in Moscow was the most decorated female Olympic gymnast in 1980 Moscow. She won 2 golds and 2 silvers. No other 1980 gymnast did better than Nadia's 2 golds, 2 silvers.
Also they are bitter how perfect Nadia's life is now. Nadia is married to the very rich Bart Conner, a two time Olympic gold medalist American gymnast, and she lives a beautiful, happy life in Oklahoma now. Nadia has all the documentaries, movies, and even a song revolving around her. They are all thinking, "Why do people love Nadia so much???" It seems they refuse to learn about Nadia's hellish life in 1980s Romania when she was a sex slave of the dictator's son. The extreme abuse that she suffered was why she had to escape Romania.
Nadia was and will always be my role model and favourite person. The greatest EVER. There will never be another Nadia; they happen once in a lifetime.Bravo Nadia♥♥
I see Elena!! also one of the best so far :'(
Erin Yurchenko same When I saw Elena, It breaks my heart.
Erin Yurchenko I feel badly for her...she was very talented but pushed too hard. She put on a show performing, but recall what her 1st thought was as she lay on the floor w a broken neck... 😢
She did not have mistakes forgiven, Nellie. She was perfect.
But, Olga Korbut said the same thing @3:33. However, the Soviets robbed the Romanians in 1980, so nobody has moral superiority.
@@pedestrianrights1257 they were both jealous and bitter. They were the darlings of the sport until a 14 year old came in and changed the entire landscape of gymnastics
@@takerkellygiveusbacktupac617 Yeah Nadia changed the landscape, but then again, Olga Korbut change the landscape too, in '72. ... Nobody ever really has a monopoly on "changing the landscape" in ANY field... *Let me ask you something, DID Nadia introduce routines that were so difficult, DANGEROUS and spectacular that they had to be BANNED due to people getting killed & injured trying to copy them?? No. BUT, Olga Korbut introduce exactly those moves!* Perhaps Nadia was more talented than Olga, BUT, i'd say Olga was more of a pioneer (if you know what a pioneer is) than Nadia was. Also, everybody says that SINCE Olga Korbut, Gymnasts had become smaller (just that fact alone speaks volumes as the the impact of Olga Korbut).
@@pedestrianrights1257 it's not an either or and I said what I said. She's a bitter old cow
@@pedestrianrights1257 Nadia was the pioneer. Compare Nadia's balance beam routines in 1976 with Olga's very mediocre balance beam routines in 1972. The balance beam is the hardest event in women's gymnastics and Nadia is out there doing floor routine level tricks on the beam while Olga was wobbling and not doing those tricks in 1972 Munich. In fact Nadia's balance beam routines hold up well with even today's gymnasts especially because Nadia had no springs and no padded/covered balance beams like today's gymnasts.
Olga is a Model T compared to Nadia's Apollo/Space Shuttle. Olga was a pioneer in terms of something new like a car but Nadia went to outer space. And why was Olga so crappy in 1976? Hearing her make excuses for her poor 1976 Montreal individual performances was hilarious! Nadia instead of only living off of 1976 Montreal was the best performing women's gymnast in the 1980 Moscow Olympics. She confirmed that she is the greatest at Moscow. Even with a rigged group of judges against her she still won two golds and two silvers. She was the only female gymnast to win 2 golds and 2 silvers in 1980 Moscow. Nobody else could match her there.
I just wish people would not judge these young girls in their person the way they do as gymnasts. All of these girls were great and good athletes. Among the best who have ever lived.
Olga Korbut is a visible definition of Jealousy.
She’s still so beautiful and an amazing talent
She did and had everything she wanted and even more than her couch could dream. She had charm, determinaton, lot of luck, alnong witj her couch ,bouth find themselves on the right time and place to do the whole inovation on gymnastic.
Nunca jamas nadie tendra la gracia y perfección de nadia en la gymnasia, TRUE LEGEND!! 👸🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
perfect and what a beautiful girl back then!!
Nadia was devlishly good,was she not?Just Perfect
Oh, yes!
Awesome
Poor,bitter Olga.Nadia is the best.
Yes Julia, I totally agree with you. Nadia forever !!!
Olga should only be upset at herself for not trying hard in the individual events in 1976 Montreal. Her excuse in this documentary was "I was focused solely on team gold"? What????
ELENA MUKHINA AT 3:19!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Nadia was prepared better psychologically....that's why she won" !...she was a 14 ! And before that 12 !
Popa Elek Ioan SOME people are BORN that way...she’s a Scorpio! They are secretive and tend to hide emotions! She found her niche young! I raised a Scorpio son, I remembered he needed to be free to make his choses and he’s done very well! The rest of us are works in progress most of our lives!
Says NK - ..."Nadia was prepared better psychologically....that's why she won" I mean, I really like NK, but both she and OK come off as a bit ruffled after all these years of Nadia winning hugely over them for many years. How about this angle, Nadia won because she is extremely talented, worked very hard (harder than her coaches asked her to), wasn't afraid to try new and difficult skills (that no one had ever ventured to try), and pulled off stunning upsets? Nadia was clearly the better technically prepared performer and could execute skills like no other gymnast. That's why she won! Also, I think OK should look up the definition of propaganda.
+utoob9999 Bravo! Very well said!
utoob9999 great comment
I think NK and OK say the reality. Nadia is inflated by Media, because Nelly Kim got the FIRST TEN too, in vault and Floor and in the same Olympic games, and Media do not mentioned it. And why Nadia did not continue to competing??? She was like a comet.
@Luisa No, to all the above, except that NK did receive two tens in the same Olympics, but only after Nadia scored the first 10.0 in Olympic history and made it so obvious that her score was in fact perfect that the judges had no choice. A 10.0 never crossed a judge’s mind (or the creator of the scoreboard for that matter!). OK and NK tell an old story like someone who was bumped unfairly out of a medal or championship or something. Really? Tell that to Nadia regarding the 1980 Olympics. Nadia never complained - (ever) and then you have these two complaining 40 years later about - what exactly? Let it rest already. Does OK think she ever stood even a tiny chance against Nadia on 1976? Nadia was by far the technically superior gymnast, and should have been scored 10.5 and 11.0 if you compare difficulty in beam and bar routines. What do you mean by “not continuing to compete”? Nadia won the European Gymnastics Championships 3(!) times - a hat trick that no other female gymnast has pulled off. That’s being the best for 6 years. That is not a comet. That is more like a long-range space ship going around the entire galaxy and back to remain at an elite competition level that long in an endurance sport like gymnastics. She kept improving over the years - 1979 was her best year - amazing shape and upgraded routines for all events.
Olga isn't far off with her propaganda comment.....up until then, women had been competing in Olympic gymnastics and then they let this 14 year old kid in to compete against 18, 19, 20 something year olds!!! No fair! 14 year olds have an advantage because they are lighter and faster since they're still kids, not to mention with girls, their training and diet delays puberty....why do you think the Chinese were lying about their team's ages? Notice how the 18 year old Nadia performs vs the 14 year old. From Nadia on, it's been disguised as women's gymnastics when in fact it became GIRLS gymnastics......yes propaganda and a very clever one. The great Larissa Latynina and Vera Caslavska were women (21yrs old or 22 yrs old) when they competed in their very first Olympics!!! Now that's WOMEN'S gymnastics!!
Nadia: All class!
I really never see Nadia routines where she was overscored. I remember watching her 80 all around beam routine and I thought 9.85 was fair.
Nadia deserved the floor gold in 1980. The Soviets rigged it to where Nellie tied with her though. Nellie's final floor event routine including a terrible landing on her final tumble (had to take two steps to stabilize and it was not a small wobble) was very poor yet she somehow got a 9.95.
THE GREATEST
Bela is right, nadia is the ultimate
"Was prepared better psychologically, thats why she won" really nellie? REALLY?
Nadia did not win exactly to be better prepared psychologically. But it is true that psychologically she was stronger than most other gymnasts.
Well said Nellie
Nadia will always stand out in my mind when I think of gymnastics at the Olympics.....
Bravo Nadia !!!!! all Romanians love you !!
Bitter jealous haters, Nellie and Olga. Could not handle getting owned by Nadia.
🎯🎯🎯
Nadia owned their asses back then and still owns their asses. Nadia lives a dream-like life in Oklahoma with her husband Bart Conner who is a two-time gold medal Olympian American gymnast, haha. You thought these former Eastern European Olympic gymnasts couldn't get even angrier at Nadia?
"I like to wrk hard, I find my motivation? I don't like to quit when it is hard? Sounds kinda boring?" And yet so much humility, not wanting to attribute her achievements to some secret formula, unlike what Nellie Kim alluded to....
Nadia, of course, has no equal. But I also loved Nellie Kim. I thought she was the best Soviet gymnast in history. I know others may not agree but she sure looked like she was to me. I was glad that she was put in the Hall Of Fame as early as she was. She deserved it.
I agree with you , I hated Nadia mania and loved Nellie Kim.
I think she was so underrated , and overlooked by the USSR in favour of other gymnasts.
Each time though her hard work and elegant performances proved them wrong.
Wander what she might have achieved if she had been given the same backing by the USSR as Nadia was given by the Romanians
Lets not forget, these athletes were exploited by their governments....
I'm sorry but the Soviets complaining about Nadia getting preferential treatment when the Soviets at that time constantly strongarmed a beaten Gymnast onto the podium anyway is just funny to me.
It is shameful to listen to soviet Olga Korbut and Nellie Kim saying that Nadia was the winner because of her psychological strength or that judges forgave her errors because of propaganda. They have such envy and hate towards Nadia that makes them look ridiculous through those statements. Olga, Nellie, ADMIT IT - NADIA WAS WAY BETTER AND SHE WAS THE ONE TO GET THE FIRST TEN EVER. She is the BEST GYMNAST in History and you both look ridiculously jealous. She had the talent, a strong mind, a gifted body, a natural elegance, such perfection performing and charisma ... A true glory like Ludmila Tourischeva is the only one who admits it. Olga and Nellie, keep lying to yourselves ...
I LOVE Nellie Kim's comment..."First you work for your name...then your name will work for you".
NADIA COMANECI IS GRACE,POISE,TALENT,BEAUTY ROLLED INTO ONE,MANY WOULD AGREE THAT SHE LOOKS LIKE SPANISH ACTRESS PENELOPE CRUZ.😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣
Toda una leyenda, Nadia Comaneci, hermosas sus presentaciones. Felicitaciones por su talento, una niña muy aplicada, aunque no me gustó cuando su delegación se retiro y Nadia no se quedó a recoger su medalla de oro, lo cual no me pareció justo para su esfuerzo de Nadia.... ❤️❤️❤️
11:40 loved her,I don't know why but reminded me to Olga K lol
Love you Nadia, great gymnast and also,a very kind person.I love Teodora too ,I would like to see how was her friendship with Nadia.I think it was ,for sure sometimes conflictive
(I would have liked see on this doc. Ludmilla Tourischeva ,I think she is more impartial and fair that her soviet teammates)
Bitterness or not, she is somewhat true..maybe not in that case, but gymnastics is a subjective sport, the judges are human, they know who is performing and they know the gymnast's most important titles. There are some examples of today's gymnastics..Jordyn Wieber was gifted huge scores in the USA, Mustafina is gifted everywhere she goes and so on. They arguably deserved those gifts, but nevertheless, they were gifted.
What is not subjective is Nadia is the greatest of all time
I wonder if Nadia and her childhood best friend and team mate Teodora have a video being together againafter her defection or reunion like documentaries.
The goat..
NADIA, eres y seras la maravillosa NADIA, la única
La extraordinaria NADIA.
Back then, she kinda looks like daniel radcliffe or Daniel radcliffe kinda looks like nadia back in '70's
Nadia Comaneci the best there ever will be. Bela was the best coach ever!!!! RIP!!😢❤
God bless this great lady. ❤
Nellie said only one rival?! Elena?!
IKR?
Olga still act like a kid who's candy was stolen by her classmate during recess in school.. 😂
It really disappoints me that they never mention the fact that she lived in Montreal for a year and a half before moving to the States after her defection.
France Laferrière You do realize she was there against her will, right? She was a slave to the man she defected with.
MINDENHOL EMLÍTIK ÉS Ő IS ... NÉZZ UTÁNNA !!!!
She lived in the US for a while before she went to Canada
I think when Nadia agreed to do the documentary and interview she guaranteed that they would not talk about that Constantine guy, a Romanian expat from Florida, who physically and sexually abused Nadia and stole her money. Look up all of Nadia's interviews in 1989 and 1990. What a shitshow and circus that was. That saga was like watching Jerry Springer.
superb!
Anheló conocer a Nadia Comaneci mi gimnasta favorita ❤
Si es la mejor
Dude, Bela, Nadia had a slight balance break and a significant step in the dismount. 9.850 is completely appropriate.
Dude, learn your math. It's 15 100ths. Nadia took a tenth off for the landing and .05 off for the balance check.
They took half an hour to publish the score because the head beam judge was Romanian and refused to post it.
@@shushunovafan4301 They took half an hour because they wanted to rig the all-around against Nadia, which she deserved. They didn't deduct for steps during dismounts back then because they landed on HARD FLOORS, not on the springs cushions like the modern gymnasts have. It's why Nadia being able to do the routines back then was impressive with no padded/springs balance beam and no trampoline springs on the floor like how it has been added since 1984 L.A.
Only a few fleeting glimpses of her in background, like a ghost whose name cannot be spoken, not even one mention of the 1978 World AA champion, 1977 European AA second place and twelve time medallist in two Euros and one Worlds.
And two more gold medals in the World Cup (1977)
It’s a documentary on Nadia not Yelena
There are plenty of vids of her in her prime, and tragic story here on you tube , for you to view
YES YES NADIA SHE WAS EXELENT PERFECT GIRL IN THAT TIME BUT KAROLYI BELA IT WAS HER MASTER
I think Olga has a point on this, and it’s something I’ve heard others say who were around for that period in gymnastics. Back then, judges refused to give 10s because they always believed there was always room for improvement, and that was reflected in the score board - it was never meant to reflect a 10. After the 72 Olympic Games, a new panel of judges were brought out and 10s were given. I like Nadia, but I’ve seen her later routines and she fumbles on some, not much, but does fumble, and she’s awarded a 10 anyway.
Rumeina Nadia Comaneci,
Bucarest' ah! Bene!
Nadia un cuoricino per,
te❤
actually I just watched another documentary that explains the exploitation of Olga Korbut by the Soviet govt. Between 1972 and 1976 they had her travel everywhere to represent the govt. So by 1976, she was worn out. Interesting..its in the Faster Higher Stronger BBC doc. Btw, I was an immediate fan of Nadia when she performed in 1976. I was a gymnast and 12 at the time ;) Still have my scrapbooks.
Yes I agree Olga was worn out by 1976 and by her own admission she didn't want to compete. She said in her book she had to take out some of her best elements as she was injured. If she had been healthy she might have beat Nadia or Filatova might had she made the all round
God bless you Nadia and your family
🙏🙏🙏♥️🥇🤸♀️
Nadia, the most beautiful woman when I was growing up, and she still is.😍😍
Living legend and a credit to Romania
The new era of gymnastics started earlier in 1972 with Olga Korbut.
Started with Nadia in 1976. Olga's balance beam routine was utter shit in 1972 compared to Nadia's.
@@nogoodnameleft Nadia don't do a back tuck on beam at 1976 olympics, Nadia don't do nothing new 😊
Oh olga olga olga.. 😅🤔🙄🙄 Jealousy is not a good look..
Nadia fell and still took second place, besides, she took a huge step on that beam routine in 80, and still expect a score close to 10?
Back then steps after landing were allowed because the landing mats were HARD FLOORS. They didn't have thick springs and cushions like today's gymnasts have for landing mats. They judged them on everything else except the landing steps. Compare Nadia 1980 balance beam with Olga 1972 balance beam. Olga's balance beams were a JOKE compared to Nadia. Balance beam is the hardest women's event and Nadia was the first to do all those complex flips and spins on the balance beam. In fact Nadia's balance beam routines hold up very well with modern gymnasts. The good balance beam gymnasts today look kind of shitty compared to Nadia and Nadia had to work with solid wood beams with no springs and no coverings on the beams.
You should be talking more about the criminal fact that Nadia was in 1st place at the end of all-around but the Soviet-dominated judges talked for 30 minutes and then advanced a Soviet to 1st place and Nadia got silver.
@@nogoodnameleft Nadia sucks, she didn't deserve to even medal. She stole that silver medal.
Olga is right, Nadia don't deserve her 10's!