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I know. It's nostalgic and depressing. I had a Lebanese American friend visit the other day and they said it seems like South Africans have given up. She said even when her country was at war they all still had hope.
@@Michael-nu6fb difference is in South Africa you would love to think positive, but the reality is you would be very nieve to believe there's any hope, sort of the captain knowing when to abandon ship, or go down with, it's very sad😐
Epic retro plane spotting especially the 747SP, I didn't know BA had 727s either. Sadly the good old days of getting your ears blasted out and the thunder of rumbling in your tummy are long gone, god I so miss them days.
These aircraft were basically engined with the same high bypass ratio engines as todays aircraft, the engine's that used to blast your ears were old 727, DC10, and first models 747, and 707 aircraft, with the pure jet 3 stage jet engines
Yes the old south African airways, is one of the oldest airways in the world, and were the flag ship for Boeing aircraft, I think the Boeing 747 so was one of them,
These were the days I would hang out at Jan Smuts for entire days just watching the gorgeous aircraft of the time - nowadays it’s Dreamliners and 350s - beautiful but not quite the same, 90% of these types don’t fly anymore and are scrap, it’s crazy to see how long the 727 was around, and the Fokkers were amazing too. Happy memories
THE YEAR I STARTED FLYING FOR SAA!!! That mixed fleet was a nightmare for SEPT exams. But I loved flying so much I made sure I passed. Life a non-stop party!!
Such powerful nostalgia! Beautiful era for aviation in South Africa. Loved seeing the overnight heavies from Europe lined up on delta apron during the day and the unusual routes that have since ended, such as the Malaysia 747-400 flying KUL-JNB-CPT-EZE twice a week.
12:00 crashed in 2009. lost height after takeoff following engine fire and impacted a school fence, killing the captian and seriously injuring 4 others 15:00 crashed in 2013 as Tatarstan Airlines Flight 363 following pilot error during a go-around, killing all 50 on board 23:25 that's actually one of the Boeing Dreamlifters (N718BA)! Back when they weren't converted and were still normal 747s 26:09 Last remaining passenger 747-200 (I think). Still active to this day with IranAir 28:18 crashed in 2004 as MK Airlines Flight 1602. Lost height shortly after takeoff due to incorrect takeoff speed. Remains as the deadliest crash in MK Airlines' history at 7 fatalities 35:28 the same aircraft that was used by Chris Phatswe to crash into two other Air Botswana ATR-42s as a suicide in 1999. This incident nearly ceased operations for Air Botswana as their only three planes that were in service at the time were destroyed, leaving them with a single faulty BAe 146 that hadn't been used in a year. 43:03 'crashed' as Adam Air Flight 172 in 2007; landed so hard the fuselage broke into two. 2 injuries 55:02 was damaged beyond repair in 2015 while landing at the town of Wamena; suffering collapse of the left hand main gear on touchdown 57:51 The plane involved in the 1998 Lignes Aériennes Congolaises shootdown, where the plane was shot down by rebel forces as it took off from Kindu Airport, killing all 41 on board
Its sad that SAA has gone down the path of bankruptcy several times Their financial situation has been chaos. Especially ever since COVID, they sold all their planes Hopefully they can bounce back well enough this time round
Why is seeing a South African 747 Crazy, SAA had twenty eight 747 type aircraft, twenty one 737 aircraft thirty two 727 , and plenty Airbus type aircraft
Best thing ever..now its parked at a museum in East Rand and being an aviation geek i drive there just to visit it and walk the isles and just take it in
@@bluecouchpodcast24 ooooh that’s going to be a Saturday drive soon 👌🏽 Thanks so much for the info champ. I’m in the process of becoming an aviation geek. 😂
I was flying a lot from and to SA in this period and can actually recall most of those Companies, aircraft and paint schemes. Who knows I was inside one of the planes in the footage! Lekker ❤
@@preslavdavidov3740 I understand but what is the connection between Bulgaria and S. Africa?, tourism, business, gold, what? I don't see any purpose for these flights
i live 5km from this airport still nice to watch these aircraft the747 were super cool my friend was a flight engineer on them he started with the constellations andvickers vickounts and 707 boeing then 747s awesome
I had most of JPV’s(including JNB) International collection on VHS and later DVDs, oh, the memories… 8:46 Look at all those Boeings, the way things are headed, Boeing may be going the way of DeHallivand, so sad….
LOVE the old planes: 727, straight-pipe 737-200 and squashed-nacelle -300, A310, DC-9 10 series, DC-10, 747-200, silly-idea 747SP, stupid A340 quad jet, classic 707, mother-Fokker 100... That Air Namibia 767-300ER at 17:45 is a beautiful bird! The gold stripe makes the plane look even longer. IL-62 at 39:06 !!! I notice all the BA livery planes have ZS- registrations.
The British Airways jet, apart for the big 747, were not essentially British Airways. The were operated by ComAir who were licenced to fly under the British Airways branding. So not BA
So much interesting and beautiful variety back there, loved every clip. On another topic, i went reg. for reg. and in the video were seen 3 ill-fated planes; ZS-SAR who crashed in Canada registered as 9K-MKJ and operating for MK Airlines, 9Q-CSG who was shot down shortly after, and XA-SWO who crashed in Indonesia operating for Adam Air with registration PK-KKV.
Some excellent footage there. Some of those Comair (BA franchise) B737-200s are very early basic examples. The one at 59:02 even still has the secondary inlet doors on the engines.
Nice. A Cubana IL-62M. Super nice. Alliance Air 747SP take off, and a SAL one at he end, all others were being tugged. Really weird. Nationwide (Sabena) BAC1-11. Really different: Emirates likely A310 (too far and blurred to see) Gorgeous paint scheme on the 747 in the hangar. Johannesburg was the land of 747s, A340s and MD-11 / DC-10, as european and asian airlines had to fly a long way to arrive there. One or 2 years earlier and TAP Air Portugal L-1011s would be regular visits too.
thought that 727 at the beginning was never going to get off the ground - then I remembered that JHB airport is 'hot and high'. A good mile or so in altitude.
reading this, I wonder if they have old footage from any city from my country as well. Don't have much hope (not a lot of variety) but would be cool if they did
We have Suvarnab. 2019 and 2023 so not really old, we do have Don Mueang just not sure if we have those in our library any longer. If we do we'll post it here.
This a mixed video over a long period of time the new flag for south-Africa and the new colors and design came long after 1977 the orange tail with the springbok on was only started to be phased in post- apartheid (1994) I would guess around 1995 / 1996 . SA Airlink did not Start until the early 2000's
No its probably stop overs at some other places , and if you didn't know , in south africa we had British airways owning most of our airliner companies , but they dont exist anymore 😢 but they owned most of them thats why they were operating here .
57:55 This Congo Airlines B727 was shot out of the sky in 1998 with a Sam 7 missile shortly after takeoff from Kindu, Congo killing al 41 occupants aboard.
Man I miss all the abstract art on these birds ESPECIALLY the tail art, now everything is streamlined and dull… lookin at you modern American Airlines…
Yes, apartheid in SA were terrible days just looking at South Africa's flourishing No1 airline and infrastructure. There was actually nothing left as one can see. It was a shithole under apartheid that's clear...
African air industry is still thriving, why does everyone seem to blame everything on SA government. The economy then and now is not the same, Airbus for example has struggled a lot after Covid, yes the current government sucks just like all other governments in the world. Just that some have the privilege of printing money from thin air
talking about everything. The ANC has not upgraded anything since 1994 unemployment rate are sky high Crime are sky high murder are 10x more jho these a lot@@nmkbanzee4787
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Mixed emotions. Cool planes but so sad to see how far our country has fallen off with air travel
I know. It's nostalgic and depressing. I had a Lebanese American friend visit the other day and they said it seems like South Africans have given up. She said even when her country was at war they all still had hope.
Sad 🥺
@@Michael-nu6fb difference is in South Africa you would love to think positive, but the reality is you would be very nieve to believe there's any hope, sort of the captain knowing when to abandon ship, or go down with, it's very sad😐
Epic retro plane spotting especially the 747SP, I didn't know BA had 727s either. Sadly the good old days of getting your ears blasted out and the thunder of rumbling in your tummy are long gone, god I so miss them days.
the BA 727s were actually operated by Comair, a South African subsidiary
for the 727 I knew it because I have it in my collection ✌😁😁
The 727s aren’t BA’s, I believe they’re probably operated by Comair like the 737s in BA livery that have been flying in recent years.
These aircraft were basically engined with the same high bypass ratio engines as todays aircraft, the engine's that used to blast your ears were old 727, DC10, and first models 747, and 707 aircraft, with the pure jet 3 stage jet engines
Wow! Africa had a thriving Airline industry. I am really impressed.
Still does
@@bluecouchpodcast24 Ethiopian Airlines is the only one making strides. The rest are struggling.
Yes the old south African airways, is one of the oldest airways in the world, and were the flag ship for Boeing aircraft, I think the Boeing 747 so was one of them,
Only till the ANC destroyed what was given to them on a golden platter!
Africa is not a country, sir.
These were the days I would hang out at Jan Smuts for entire days just watching the gorgeous aircraft of the time - nowadays it’s Dreamliners and 350s - beautiful but not quite the same, 90% of these types don’t fly anymore and are scrap, it’s crazy to see how long the 727 was around, and the Fokkers were amazing too. Happy memories
THE YEAR I STARTED FLYING FOR SAA!!! That mixed fleet was a nightmare for SEPT exams. But I loved flying so much I made sure I passed. Life a non-stop party!!
Such powerful nostalgia! Beautiful era for aviation in South Africa. Loved seeing the overnight heavies from Europe lined up on delta apron during the day and the unusual routes that have since ended, such as the Malaysia 747-400 flying KUL-JNB-CPT-EZE twice a week.
Aviation in Africa not just South Africa.
To have seen these at JNB is a dream. The Golden Age
12:00 crashed in 2009. lost height after takeoff following engine fire and impacted a school fence, killing the captian and seriously injuring 4 others
15:00 crashed in 2013 as Tatarstan Airlines Flight 363 following pilot error during a go-around, killing all 50 on board
23:25 that's actually one of the Boeing Dreamlifters (N718BA)! Back when they weren't converted and were still normal 747s
26:09 Last remaining passenger 747-200 (I think). Still active to this day with IranAir
28:18 crashed in 2004 as MK Airlines Flight 1602. Lost height shortly after takeoff due to incorrect takeoff speed. Remains as the deadliest crash in MK Airlines' history at 7 fatalities
35:28 the same aircraft that was used by Chris Phatswe to crash into two other Air Botswana ATR-42s as a suicide in 1999. This incident nearly ceased operations for Air Botswana as their only three planes that were in service at the time were destroyed, leaving them with a single faulty BAe 146 that hadn't been used in a year.
43:03 'crashed' as Adam Air Flight 172 in 2007; landed so hard the fuselage broke into two. 2 injuries
55:02 was damaged beyond repair in 2015 while landing at the town of Wamena; suffering collapse of the left hand main gear on touchdown
57:51 The plane involved in the 1998 Lignes Aériennes Congolaises shootdown, where the plane was shot down by rebel forces as it took off from Kindu Airport, killing all 41 on board
I love that DC3 just casually maneuvering between all those Jumbos and Airbusses
Its sad that SAA has gone down the path of bankruptcy several times
Their financial situation has been chaos. Especially ever since COVID, they sold all their planes
Hopefully they can bounce back well enough this time round
Probably not, rather poor and rather unreliable airline lately
@@Bashbot-ep2txunreliable? Who told you hahahaha 😂
Thank you bring back old memories from the 90, s.. We use to go sit there and watch the planes👍❤️
Amazing to see so many defunct airlines. Thoroughly enjoyable. Thank you.
Very welcome Norman
Seeing a South African Airways 747 is craaazy.
Why is seeing a South African 747 Crazy, SAA had twenty eight 747 type aircraft, twenty one 737 aircraft thirty two 727 , and plenty Airbus type aircraft
@@user-ik3mk5vi8m Well, as you said, SAA “had”… I’d never seen an SAA 747. Thanks for the info though, very interesting know👍
Best thing ever..now its parked at a museum in East Rand and being an aviation geek i drive there just to visit it and walk the isles and just take it in
@@bluecouchpodcast24 ooooh that’s going to be a Saturday drive soon 👌🏽 Thanks so much for the info champ. I’m in the process of becoming an aviation geek. 😂
@acappella1983 to make things even better we have two 74's at rand
I was flying a lot from and to SA in this period and can actually recall most of those Companies, aircraft and paint schemes. Who knows I was inside one of the planes in the footage! Lekker ❤
THANKS FOR SUPER VIDEOS...TRAVELLED SO OFTEN ON SAA BOEING 727s, I CANNOT EVEN REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF TIMES! 🤓
Very welcome!
The older propliners really give this video a deeper feel.
Brings back memories, just started photography and been spotting since 1992!!
Beautiful compilation.
Interesting to see all the old liveries and i wonder how many of those airlines still exist today 😊
Absolutely stunning 😊🇿🇦
🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼
Back in the busy days. I remember
45:46 that's the takeoff from the just planes video "did this 727 rotate too early" from 11 years ago
You are very observant! :) it looked like the rotation went on for a very long time.
As a Bulgarian, I am happy that the Balkan Bulgarian Airlines Boeing b767 was included in this video
Why a Bulgarian airplane be doing in South Africa?
@@dc10fomin65 They used to fly Boeing 767 planes to South Africa I the 1990s until the early 2000s
@@preslavdavidov3740 I understand but what is the connection between Bulgaria and S. Africa?, tourism, business, gold, what? I don't see any purpose for these flights
@@dc10fomin65 I’m pretty sure it was business related
Thanks guys this brings back so many beautiful memories:)
Very welcome
Excellent video, great memories of 90's JNB 👌
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
What a beautiful video but at the same time quite sad . Only a few airlines remained thriving in this video.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks
All the 747 SP look great!
Air Namibia ❤❤❤
Thx a lot for this memory‘s❤
Very welcome!
i live 5km from this airport still nice to watch these aircraft the747 were super cool my friend was a flight engineer on them he started with the constellations andvickers vickounts and 707 boeing then 747s awesome
Nice to see the better days of saa
Luv your vídeos, thank you for sharing!
Thanks very much Eduardo!
Great footage, nostalgia and loved the 747 in the hanger
Yes ndizani was beautiful before they scraped her
Orange tail the best.❤👍👍
So many great memories there back in 97. ❤
Thats for sure!
You can see SAA was looking good!!! Surrounding looking good and voila ....... years later...(no further comment)
I had most of JPV’s(including JNB) International collection on VHS and later DVDs, oh, the memories… 8:46 Look at all those Boeings, the way things are headed, Boeing may be going the way of DeHallivand, so sad….
Thanks for the upload! This would be an amazing original base for 4k AI upscale.
Very welcome!
Beautiful OBB.
23:23 MH 747
LOVE the old planes: 727, straight-pipe 737-200 and squashed-nacelle -300, A310, DC-9 10 series, DC-10, 747-200, silly-idea 747SP, stupid A340 quad jet, classic 707, mother-Fokker 100...
That Air Namibia 767-300ER at 17:45 is a beautiful bird! The gold stripe makes the plane look even longer.
IL-62 at 39:06 !!!
I notice all the BA livery planes have ZS- registrations.
The British Airways jet, apart for the big 747, were not essentially British Airways. The were operated by ComAir who were licenced to fly under the British Airways branding. So not BA
Cool! Thanks for the info.
Stupid A340?
@@AndreiTupolev A quad jet? Really??? If only ETOPS didn’t beat it to market.
So much interesting and beautiful variety back there, loved every clip. On another topic, i went reg. for reg. and in the video were seen 3 ill-fated planes; ZS-SAR who crashed in Canada registered as 9K-MKJ and operating for MK Airlines, 9Q-CSG who was shot down shortly after, and XA-SWO who crashed in Indonesia operating for Adam Air with registration PK-KKV.
Some excellent footage there. Some of those Comair (BA franchise) B737-200s are very early basic examples. The one at 59:02 even still has the secondary inlet doors on the engines.
1997, ah good choice. Back when SAA actually had a fleet and Johannesburg had a greater amount of traffic diversity
Awesome 👍
Ahh the flying springbok, miss those orange tailed beauties
I love this video! keep making these
* Jan Smuts International Airport.
Yea it wasn’t called OR back then
It's OR Thambo International , does that hurt?
Nice. A Cubana IL-62M.
Super nice. Alliance Air 747SP take off, and a SAL one at he end, all others were being tugged.
Really weird. Nationwide (Sabena) BAC1-11.
Really different: Emirates likely A310 (too far and blurred to see)
Gorgeous paint scheme on the 747 in the hangar.
Johannesburg was the land of 747s, A340s and MD-11 / DC-10, as european and asian airlines had to fly a long way to arrive there. One or 2 years earlier and TAP Air Portugal L-1011s would be regular visits too.
many beauties
Dad flew all SAL 747's. Cannot be repeated.
Am I right that at the beginning of the clip, many planes where taking of on the old runway 14/32 ( now taxiway echo)
The SAA 747-SP where deployed on European and Asian routes? Or also to US?
thought that 727 at the beginning was never going to get off the ground - then I remembered that JHB airport is 'hot and high'. A good mile or so in altitude.
The 727 was great for hot and high conditions, but when fully loaded it was better to use more runway
Back then when boeing were not cutting corners i wonder? Strange to see how dangerous parking lots are these days for whistleblowers.
For your enjoy'munt and entertain'munt. The minister of transportation is a derail'munt.
12:20 747 what a beauty
Nostelgia
When we still had hope as a nation
Peep taxiway Echo still painted in Runway 15 markings
Have you got any old footage of my home airport, Bangkok Suvarnabhumi??
reading this, I wonder if they have old footage from any city from my country as well. Don't have much hope (not a lot of variety) but would be cool if they did
We have Suvarnab. 2019 and 2023 so not really old, we do have Don Mueang just not sure if we have those in our library any longer. If we do we'll post it here.
This a mixed video over a long period of time the new flag for south-Africa and the new colors and design came long after 1977 the orange tail with the springbok on was only started to be phased in post- apartheid (1994) I would guess around 1995 / 1996 . SA Airlink did not Start until the early 2000's
A 727 able to go from Jo burg to London? Wow
No its probably stop overs at some other places , and if you didn't know , in south africa we had British airways owning most of our airliner companies , but they dont exist anymore 😢 but they owned most of them thats why they were operating here .
@@jcbennett-GK was South Africa a dutch or british colony? Because Afrikaans is quite similar to dutch, but they are also extremely good at english.
SAA themselves have very nearly joined all the other now extinct airlines ... 🙁
And now...basically all of them gone.
Except all the EU carriers, Virgin, Emirates and Cathay Pacific.
KQ is still flying.
Before takatso boys came,lol
if anyone is wondering BA had 727 and 737 operation from Johannesburg, SA operated by camair
Thats right.. Comair. We made a cockpit film on their 737s.
I was wondering that. 727s airport hopping from the UK down to Johannesburg would have been weird.
53:00 Swissair flight 111? (not the flight but the aircraft involved in crash 1 year later) i cant see if that is a T or a I
Nope, this plane was HB-IWH.
The involved plane was registered as HB-IWF.
@@CentralZones correct , i didnt see the F
There is british airways africa or something like that ?
Mzantsi's content 🇿🇦
it looks like CPT (Cape Town International)
January 1998 was the first time I went on a plane ✈️
I miss the Bokkie 😢
Cubana probably flew their il62 from havana either via canary islands or dakar
Cubana never waited long to start using our airports did they 👀
Jo'burg reference is ONLY a link.
Tragic, what incompetence and blatant corruption did to our, once world class, airline. I hope these clowns get voted out soon.
57:55 This Congo Airlines B727 was shot out of the sky in 1998 with a Sam 7 missile shortly after takeoff from Kindu, Congo killing al 41 occupants aboard.
Oh thats too bad! not long after we filmed it I guess.
For once I see Air Zimbabwe
I always remember air Namibia when I used to have it on video south Africa Johannesburg south African airways 747 a300 737 747sp 767
The Boeing 737-200 owned by air Zimbabwe is still operating
Wonderlik toe alles mooi aan die gang was
Man the colonizers knew how to run a country and airways
What colonizers?
@@AndrewduToit-wl3tnwhite people.
Dis die waarheid.👍👍
@@Helgardt6189Ons is nie Koloniseerders nie. Waar was jy gebore?
@@AndrewduToit-wl3tn THE DUTCH ,ENGLISH, GERMAN, ECT THOSE COLONIALS ❤️😜
23:27 Malaysia Airlines in 1997!
Fun fact: that exact same 747 became one of the dreamlifters (pre-conversion). its now registered as N718BA, still active!
@@yeetoburrito nice
14:32
"The problem with the anc are our planes safe...!!!, and are they service, and maintained properly.........????👀
Jan Smuts...
hello
Hey
Man I miss all the abstract art on these birds ESPECIALLY the tail art, now everything is streamlined and dull… lookin at you modern American Airlines…
Ah yes, RSA when she was a prosperous, first world beacon of progress in Africa.
How the mighty have fallen
Yes, apartheid in SA were terrible days just looking at South Africa's flourishing No1 airline and infrastructure. There was actually nothing left as one can see. It was a shithole under apartheid that's clear...
Suid-Afrikaanse Lugdiens in Afrikaans.👍♥️ 🧡🤍💙
African air industry is still thriving, why does everyone seem to blame everything on SA government. The economy then and now is not the same, Airbus for example has struggled a lot after Covid, yes the current government sucks just like all other governments in the world. Just that some have the privilege of printing money from thin air
Where are you now, Trevor Noah?
What happen ever sins.
Sins need to be forgotten and not be held against the trespassers.
Who's sins? The pilot's or the passengers?
When i think for SAL's 747 i think of the crash shrouded in mystery
Africa is regressing
Eyoo! It looks old huh! Outdated looks like de 1970😢😅 huh!
And now in 2023 a mess
the ANC destroyed south africa
Sadly the ANC has brought everything down to sht
Explain? Are you talking SAA specifically or what?
talking about everything. The ANC has not upgraded anything since 1994 unemployment rate are sky high Crime are sky high murder are 10x more jho these a lot@@nmkbanzee4787