“Predictive Policing” Algorithm Creates a Dystopian Nightmare for Residents of This Town
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2021
- When the Institute for Justice filed suit against the so-called predictive policing program in Pasco County, Florida, the Sheriff’s Office issued a statement saying that their program is not “in any way, shape or form the ideals or implementations projected in the film ‘Minority Report.'" But in this episode of Deep Dive, we discuss the chilling reality of a program that targets residents for possible future crimes based on a crude algorithm, as well as the program’s myriad constitutional violations and IJ’s lawsuit to end it.
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This is unbelievable, yet sadly, predictable. This is the evolution of Authoritarian minded people utilizing current technology.
We have some amazing events going on in another Florida town: St. Augustine.
5 false arrests (charges dropped on all) and some stunning Civil Rights violations.
Please contact me for information on this.
@Luca Kamden You’re working with Will Marcus to pretty much steal money from hard working Americans. I think you guys are bots, and I’m calling the cops🤔
I just posted this on the top post of the Pasco County Sheriffs Office Facebook page....fck Im hilarious:))But this AINT funny Pasco SD is COMPLETELY out of Control.....
What I find most interesting about this is that the pig trash doing it are so brain washed that they dont even realize they are Nazi trash.
it's easy to predict who will offend, they wear badges.
Agreed
Who's going to enforce the law?
We're a nation of laws.
@@scotttemple7844 we should keep our police but we need checks and balances in place that holds them accountable
@@tropicalco2339 We should keep most of our taxes and pay for community policing by means of a yearly democratic vote at Town Hall.
It should be an honor to police your community and good police will get voted back in while bad ones get the boot.
@@Lion-rf8xi Best comment of the month!!! For me at least..) Go, Lion!)/* Your logic is pure Vulcan!
That's not a Sherriff's office, that's a terrorist cell.
Study this a little bit and you'll see that. Most of this is coming through the sheriff's office through the police departments and it goes even higher through.
Fusion fusion centers and alphabet agencies absolutely are all involved. This is a big money Maker community. Watch foot community competitor heavily involved. And everyone is making out of a 1 person. It's basic human trafficking. Open your eyes, see how. Big, this really is. They're just talking about the technology that the developing off the heads of innocent american citizens
As a retired, law abiding citizen approaching 70 with a completely clean criminal record, I find this outrageous and infuriating. The gradual erosion of individual liberty I’ve witnessed during my lifetime so far is apparent as we’re all like the frog in the pot. How far will police go to destroy a person’s life if you don’t bend your knee before them? We the people must insist that law enforcement intervene where crime occurs and not create criminals based on pretext followed by malicious prosecution. When a person is harassed to the point where his life and finances are ruined, there’s a risk of turning that person into a person with nothing to lose. A person with nothing to lose is a very dangerous person. The scariest part is that this POS sheriff feels completely justified in his abuse of power.
That's exactly how minority communities are policed.
They create criminals from harassment of minor repeated offenses then lobby for a larger budget to create more.
We've never needed more police, we need legislative groups that spend half if the year proposing updates and changes to previous laws.
@@carrieullrich5059 Right. Legislatures pile laws on top of laws and never purge old outdated laws. It’s actually virtually impossible for anyone to go about a normal day without breaking some law.
Sometimes they act quickly like if they stop you and you commit contempt of cop even if unknowingly they'll violently kidnap you and if you defend yourself you're liable to be found guilty of multiple violent felonies. They'll lie so much in their reports and under oath, even if you're found not guilty, that your life will be ruined anyway and when you bring a lawsuit, you find you're unable to state/prove a claim because of their lies 😡
@@edwardmiessner6502 so paid liars and the subsequent wh0 res they fund 🙄. Um WHY didn't jeebus smite these folks when he had the chance? If you didn't listen to the word BEFORE he was crvcified you DON'T deserve the holy spirit AFTER, so GET RID OF THEM ALL AT ONCE AND ONCE AND FOR ALL😤 🤷.
@Grandfather_Din_Racket Amazon Prime video has a documentary about Mike Diana called “Boiled Angels”. I watched the beginning then rapidly advanced through it. While what happened to him is wrong I would not choose to be a consumer of his art. As a believer in the 1st Amendment however he has a right to express whatever and however he chooses. We can all look or look away as we decide for ourselves.
"It's an attractive idea to law enforcement" because it makes it easier to keep the for profit prisons full
“Predictive Policing” = wasting time and resources, committing violent crime and helping actual crime to go unpunished.
I've been a target for decades, and I had wanted to go to law school because I used to believe in JUSTICE before all the injustices against ME. These are PREDATORS. I hope you are successful at suing these creeps BECAUSE THIS ABUSE IS CRIMINAL.
Law school isn't the greatest path to finding justice. It will put you in a position to fully appreciate how worthless the court system is, was and will be. You'll find law school doesn't prepare you to practice law (you'll learn that on your own).
I too am a target individual because of Smart Meters, transponders after becoming very sick from transmissions energy pulses I demanded the meters transponders be removed what happened next was torture system created by the DOD Darpa coin tel pro my husband and I to this day are abused by many systems platforms gangstalking. This is Nazis abuse.
@John Thanks for the useful suggestion, but I'll pass.
Nobody talks about the real tarted individuals that are being stalked tracked and harassed on a global scale.
@@jimbeam7160 I can see you feel this way for a reason, and I can guess why, while thanking you for your perspective. I might have felt the same way, had I had the genuine chance to find out for myself.
Those baseless charges are exactly why that young man should become a lawyer!
I've always backed the Blue, but quite frankly it sounds like the Sheriff needs to be removed from office and he and his deputies prosecuted.
Prosecuted, and if found guilty, taken around back and shot.
Intelligent comment deleted for fear of future reprisal.
Back the blue til it happens to you. ✌️
This Sheriff has the qualities of a malignant Narcissist. He is a control freak.
I see a future "investigation" by the police, of themselves, finding NO wrong doing.
Right? Don't worry there will be a investigation! Lmao FTP
It's already happening.
Law enforcement would have to know the law for them to know what law they broke. That they failed to find any wrong doing only proves they don't really know the law. This is not a joke.
Where's the FBI at? Asleep at the donut?
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They should make the same algorithm for corrupted cop that abuse their power.
I also am thinking the same Algorithm could be used to WEED OUT "BAD COPS" in the same manner...... What The Hell, let's go ahead and LIST, JUDGES, DAs, and POLITICIANS as well.
@@dagnabbitt1158 just with the lies alone with the politician the algorithm would be working overtime and not one politician would be off the list for constant harassment of the system they created. I bet you all the cop of that department removed their names from entering that algorithm knowing that would have more positive of being the biggest criminals.
Lol...great point.
I WOULD SAY THAT YOU ARE RIGHT. AS HAS BEEN EVIDENCED BY ALL INDICATIONS.THIS WOULD BE A VENUE THAT WARRANTS SUCH A PREDICTIVE CRIME EFFORT.ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE A VETTING PROCESS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.IT DOESN'T WORK.
FIX THAT FIRST!
Use it on politicians. What's next we predict that one day you will get sick so we can't sell you health insurance. We predict that you will..
Completely undeniably unconstitutional. Sue them for everything you can on the behalf of everyone on the list. Give us the follow up.
Know any local lawyers who sue the government?
Doesn't happen.
Those lawyers will become targets of the ubiquitous and illegal Technocratic Surveillance State (NSA, DIA, ONI, FBI, NorthComm). Anybody who espouses civil rights is considered a terrorist (according to DHS). It's out of control.
To challenge the police state, it costs money with no guarantee you'll win. If you win, what did it cost? Without money and honest lawyers dedicated to representing their client's rights, you'll be on a path of hopelessness and desperation when the rug gets pulled out on you by a Judicial clown criminal bum.
In South Dakota, The US Attorney indicted a guy for saying, "...burning bush..." (a phrase from The Bible). This phrase was spun as a terroristic threat against President Bush. The guy got plea bargained by his suck ass, boob, hack, Fed Public Defender.
The Fed Judge gave the guy an 18 month sentence?
"Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
Translation: "Hi, I'm trying to justify my job's continued existence. I might have decent intentions but I am such an incompetent fool that I don't even know what a constitutional right even is."
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
-Benjamin Franklin
No one's giving up freedom. These people are simply taking it now that they've completely corrupted our justice system.
@@BastiatC The sheriff is voted in.
@@IVespidI an anyone who runs against that sherrif becomes a target
@@newdogatplay dont be a pussy then :l stack up rounds and the crib and have a crew always protecting you
SO this is basically Tom Cruise and 'Minority Report' 🤔. How is it after starting to see a pattern of police harassment no one has a camera or recorder at the ready and how is it NONE of these homes have security systems where we can see repeat harassment by cops. Like half this shite sounds straight science fiction and half pre WW2 G3rmany, so how is it this channel or anywhere else isn't showing 24/7 feed of police harassment maybe they need to to keep an ACTIVE running log like the police do might as well get as many eyes as you can and dedicate some of this channel to citizen watch or citizen ousting 🤷.
I am a developer who switched my main focus a few years back to mostly machine learning and statistical analysis. The keywords "predictive policing", "algorithm", "dystopian" really peaked my interest. I honestly was expecting this to be a case of a biased dataset being used to train an ultimately biased algorithm. We are going to have systemic issues going forward from people trusting these biased models more than they should. This was even worse than I had expected and was an algorithm, using that word is being extremely generous, that could have been thought up by a total noob. When he said it was like half minority report and half dumb and dumber he nailed it.
Motorola rules the world of fusion centers, police databases, and all kinds of community policing and possible doxing coming out of it.
Motorola has training stuff here also.
“I have nothing to say “ “I don’t answer questions “ , and keep doors and windows locked 🔒
Shock horror, authoritative power is given for a "good reason" and is then abused.
Then it's almost impossible to remove the power.
Every freaking time.
there's no "algorithm" for this kind of thing. there is such a thing as actuarial science- insurance companies use it to make their money- but first, just because there's this stuff called actuarial science, that doesn't mean the pasco county sheriff's office knows the first thing about that subject. and second, even if the sheriff and his buddies are practicing actuarial techniques to perfection... their actuarial science can only, at best, produce estimates of risk- it can't predict anything. and while it might be entirely reasonable for a private insurance company to, say, deny you a policy because of your risk factors, harassing citizens *who haven't actually committed a crime* over some set of risk factors... is a terrible abuse of power, at best.
Wow to scare them enough to make them move or sue that is just wrong and they need to be put in jail.
Every police officer in America is asked to do that.
@@carrieullrich5059 I personally have never met a scary officer but I have met biased officers that looked at my poverty and slapped me with speeding tickets when I wasnt the one speeding I have had officers come to my house looking for someone I knew but that never ever came to my house to visit. Its sad that there are law enforcement out there working against themselves.
EXECUTED....THEY NEED TO BE EXECUTED FOR TREASON
@Joel .....you are in a VERY VERY tiny minority of places where this has happened. USUALLY its the OPPOSITE as the pigs have been paid off to allow all this BS.
THE PIGS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS....THE PIGS USE US AS PREY ANIMALS.
THE PIGS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS
The only piece of joy I can get is KNOWING the people who have enforced this WILL suffer from this IS enough to get me through.
"Either commit a crime for us or we will commit a crime for you."
Wife's account not her opinions Your comment is the best description of this draconian policy right to the true actual point
I live this county and the sheriff's office are over stepping their authority.
Don't tell me..., most of Pasco County is majority black and Hispanic right? If true, this is racist policing at its finest. If not, it's still terror policing ala Chinese Communist People's Police.
@@saltycreole2673 some of the areas are non-white but from previous reports they just target people, especially kids, by telling them don't socialize with what the sheriff's office is considered pre-criminal or gateway actions leading to crime.
@@bluefox115 Yes, they are precisely what they are accusing others of.
@@saltycreole2673 Nope, it's 93% white. They're using this to keep minorities away.
I live in Pasco as well, this is complete bullshit.
The Minority Report has become real.
Even the Minority Report proved that it could be spoofed and offer up bad evidence.
Guilty of pre-crime.
That means just thinking about becoming a cop or any other government official you have just committed a pre crime and a thought crime.
There isn't one of them that is straight.
The good ones all left.
@@danieljones317 exactly, you literally cannot be a good cop while you are a cop, and everyone involved in the injustice system is just as guilty even if they genuinely start out well intended. You aren't able to remain in this field while maintaining integrity and honesty, they'll kill you or black list you immediately if you do anything to hold them accountable or do the right thing!
The British police is now demanding entry into peoples' homes to "talk to you to check your thoughts", even if there is no criminal investigation into the person.
And denying them that can be used to charge them with "interfering with a police investigation", which is a crime.
This is sick. Those who perpetuate such a system are criminals and need to be put in prison forever.
Can you imagine getting on this list for blowing the whistle about this list.
Yet none of the rich spoiled kids are targeted. The city needs to expunge all these targeted folks records for bogus crimes.
Bullying (The game of the rich) isn't considered to be crime.
Rich people would sue them...poor people can't afford to.
I'm surprised that there was no mention of the State of Florida Constitution Article 1 Section 23" Right of privacy. -- Every natural person has the right to be let alone and free from government intrusion into person's private life....."
They need to apply this. If you do not exercise your rights, you'll lose them!
IJ should definitely add State Constitutional claims to the plaintiffs' complaints ... and make it a class action lawsuit: The People of Pasco County v The Pasco County Sheriff's Office
Yeah, states like Florida aren't exactly known for having knowledge of what's in their own constitution, and if something is there that goes against the current regime's agenda, they will wipe their rears with their own constitution and do whatever they want with what they see as their property (i.e. the citizens who are unfortunate enough to be living under the regime, and all of the family members and assets of those citizens). They do this under the guise of "preventing crime," and in the process have to cover up all mirrors lest they realize who the actual criminals are....the police state that is Florida.
Since when do the police care about ANY constitution??
You won't find those rights protected in South Dakota or Austin Texas....or ten western states. Not for forty years. Ask me how I know that?
This department made me famous and I returned the favor
get em John
Your the man John!!
@@brianr8581
*You’re
Good ole booty aiken the coward!
Did I miss something? Do tell the story!
In a hypothetical world where cops aren't scumbags, this story would never be possible.
When you decide who someone is you don't allow them any room to become something else.
Hmm imagine that. Good argument why blks seem to all be in ONE negative aura box now, some shackles ARE placed by other's yet the lame old 'only you can control yourself' BS. ALL life is about is who has control and videos like this exist because that's ALL we as potential d3mons try to do is CONTROL others I H4TE G_d for bringing me down to this Shite stained h3ll so I can get my standard issue THOUGHT AND CONTROL BOX tainted in br0wn skin OH THE JOY 🙄🤗😒!!!
@@thebtchthathikes1008 I hear chamomile tea and blunts help.😉
@@maebandy nope. Not for whatever that is you call a face 😉. 🙄😤🤣👋.
@@thebtchthathikes1008 bot bait, reconfig the code for laggier replies.
@@maebandy 🙄. STILL won't help your face 🤷.
It's really nothing new. Before technology, in the past police would just profile based on "how you look", and that may include your ethnicity/race, and they would just cast a wide net, and stop anyone that looked 'suspcious". It could just be a car bumper sticker, etc (my favorite is the man that had an ultimate frisbee sticker, and the officer accused him of having marijuana in the vehicle, just based on that alone). And it's very easy to find an excuse to pull someone over (not staying in your lane, failed to come to a complete stop, driving too slow for the pace of traffic, etc.). I am white, and have been stopped at least 3 times over the years, just based on suspicion. But that is 3 times in 30 years of driving and each time I was just out for a ride and in a very relaxed state of mind (no time pressure). I very rarely go out anymore. So I can imagine how oppressive it would be for a minority that lives in a city, and they might get stopped 3 times a month, just based on "suspicion"... imagine being late to work, or being late picking up your kid from school from this happening on a regular basis (and having to tell your boss, or school why you are late).
I was stopped for "driving too good"...
You went for a ride ? Don't you know police HATE motorcycles. I've been driving for over 50 years and have been pulled over 3 times in my car, but I've lost count how many times I've been stopped on my bike.
" . . .banging on the doors, banging on the windows . . ." I called the Sheriff's office HQ for one of their out-of-control deputies doing this one time, and told them in no uncertain terms that if he ever did that again, I'd be filing charges against him, IN HIS PRIVATE CAPACITY, as well as their office for TERRORISTIC ACTIVITIES, as the FBI defines it.
never allow police into your home for any reason and never talk to them. they are not your friend nor do they care about keeping you safe. they are not interested in your wellbeing they are interested in convictions and nothing more. talking to them or allowing them entry how could you possibly believe that will end well? that was his first mistake was allowing them entry into his home. they probably brought that baggy in themselves and then claimed his son was the owner of it so that they now have "cause" or "reason" to do what they are doing.
And they probably contaminated that baggie by filling it with weed from the evidence room them pouring the weed out, likely so that other deputies can sell it wholesale to their friends the drug dealers who pay kickbacks to them
SO this is basically Tom Cruise and 'Minority Report' 🤔. How is it after starting to see a pattern of police harassment no one has a camera or recorder at the ready and how is it NONE of these homes have security systems where we can see repeat harassment by cops. Like half this shite sounds straight science fiction and half pre WW2 G3rmany, so how is it this channel or anywhere else isn't showing 24/7 feed of police harassment maybe they need to to keep an ACTIVE running log like the police do might as well get as many eyes as you can and dedicate some of this channel to citizen watch or citizen ousting 🤷.
Maybe someone, a connected person, wanted the house they were living in, so they were harassed so they would sell and leave
@@atomic66 THAT'S when you try every OUTLAW Bounty and Hired Thug to STRIKE back otherwise you deserve it. We are in DIGITAL MEDIA hire a Militia Age and you can't just burn or b9mb Tulsa ANYMORE. 🙄😤👎.
they originally targeted Blacks, Hispanics and Muslims. Never speak to police without a lawyer present and dont allow them entry into your home. They see people as streams of revenue.
the officers intent never "flipped"
"let us in to SCARE your child onto the straight and narrow path of obedience" was merely a pretext to establish a way into the property.
never for any reason talk to cops.
yeah, they were being truthful about the result of their actions though im sure everyone involved is scared..
I would rather pay less in property taxes and as a result not be harassed by police due to less police on the force.
SO this is basically Tom Cruise and 'Minority Report' 🤔. How is it after starting to see a pattern of police harassment no one has a camera or recorder at the ready and how is it NONE of these homes have security systems where we can see repeat harassment by cops. Like half this shite sounds straight science fiction and half pre WW2 G3rmany, so how is it this channel or anywhere else isn't showing 24/7 feed of police harassment maybe they need to to keep an ACTIVE running log like the police do might as well get as many eyes as you can and dedicate some of this channel to citizen watch or citizen ousting 🤷.
Such a good point that no one seems to want to listen to.
you'd pay more as those cops are income generators for the city.
Ask Portland how that’s working for them
How foolish are you to think that the government would use the reduced funding of police to reduce taxes? They would just spend the money elsewhere.
Ridiculous!!!! Thank you for everyone that brings this to light and thank you IJ for fighting it.
Thank You for exposing this type of police state abuse. I appreciate the dream of being able to predict who and where the next crime will occur but I really think the perpetrators of this abusive policy need to get off whatever mind altering product they are on.
something like this will be perfect for creating criminals
It is a little bit like creating a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Thank You for Sharing, Pasco County has always been a township of corruption since the 90's, and now this, these people need to be stopped and I think the Institute for Justice will be the ones, I hope you will have follow up on this subject very soon!
How many MILLION would it take?
Pinellas County is another one. It's sheriff's office is utterly corrupt
And this is what happens when our rights are up to the people currently in power.
This happened under trump
It.doesnt.matter.who.the.president.is
This is what happens when we're over-policed and cops have run out of real crimes to prosecute.
There is a decrease in the amount of active cops in this country. They are using computers and cameras to their advantage.
That's not the case here in Pasco County.
So then 'targeted individuals' wasn't a 'conspiracy theory' but a real program ?
Hmm... Who woulda figured
Remember the old adage about computers ....garbage in garbage out . The sheriff’s office needs to show proof that their algorithm has been validated for efficacy
Or flip it around, whT would the upbringings of these officers say about their likelihood to inflict harm, harass and believe they have the impunity to violate the laws we all most follow?
I bet it's about as accurate as that MIDAS unemployment insurance fraud detection computer software system developed for the State of Michigan ... 93% error rate! Lehto's Law has a video about it, just up hours ago!
NO NO NO!!! That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. The police are constitutionally prohibited from doing this. From a moral, not legal perspective, you simply cannot take action against a citizen simply because you think they MIGHT break a law. It is simply a violation of human rights.
@@edwardmiessner6502 sent straight from that video here yesterday, if only all things ran with the efficiency and none of the predation of the Google algorithm.
@@IDATMAN But we can't ask judges to adjudicate on a simply moral basis because clearly what morality "is" is an expansive spectrum depending on who you ask. Where you can invalidate this program and set precedent for future laws is in the math. If you have to take Capone down for taxes, do it.
"..bad grades in school, things like that. All of that can factor into putting somebody [a minor] on a list"
bad grades, oh the humanity!!!!!!!!!! Wonder about the officers kids??
This is insane ! Abuses of human and civil rights ! Sue the sheriff and vote him out !
Time to use that program on each cop. They are guaranteed to commit a crime/offense against a member of the public weekly if not daily.
This is everywhere. Not just Pasco and Pinealls. This is freaking crazy.
Where else is this happening?
@@janicestevenson7109 Probably all over the country.
Orange county aswell. These are gangstalkers participating in zersetzung east german stasi tactics.
Were the license plate recognition devices set up to map our movements how they gather data for the program? Thanks for being here for this info!
Yep
National Criminal Information Centre
That is something I had not thought of, if it sounds off on your plate it surely tells when and where----
Of course, just as the GPS in your car.
wonder if the police showed up on the algorithm for the committing of a future crime
I'm sure they would if we had a contact tracking app for badged waddlef@cks.. oh, look.. 3 of them in one spot!! You know a legalized robbery is taking place..)/*
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Obviously. The biggest danger are these people who are so sure they have things all figured out that they will bet YOUR life on it.
Check out IJ's videos on James King. Two federal joint task force officers were so sure he was this wanted purportedly dangerous fugitive that they bet HIS life on it. And for what? A second degree home invasion that yielded a few bottles of liquor and a bunch of empty coke cans
Robert should not give up on his dreams. He should still go to law school, and work for the public defender's office.
Work for Institute for Justice!
That's a gofundme we should have, for people willing to stand up for decency.
Right. Actual convicted felons have passed the bar and become attorneys. (Except in Kansas, Mississippi, Texas, and the Northern Mariana Islands.)
Definitely! While researching the James King incident I came across an article where a convicted felon in Michigan became a State Judge.
I would apply the Castle Doctrine to any officer who violated my rights.
Be prepared, you might have to do exactly that.
Nobody that says that would do it.
@@bradrichards8122 ... right, it has to be in a way that it will hold up. If they simply fine me, I won't hunt them down and misapply CD for that. If they show up without a warrant and try to get access to my property, like other Texas police shootings where there were no repercussions to the shooter, I will use the full force of law.
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Heard of breona taylor? Drug dealer or not....she tried that same thing....didnt work out
I don't understand how this can be legal, some parts of the US are still a mystery to me, the idea that only freedom is important, yet everyone with power is free to abuse that power and all the downtrodden are simply unfree
Pasco County finding new and innovative ways of earning the hate.
It's a pathetic place, sovereign citizen .3 percenters and the like.
@@timan2039 in some places the 3%ers and law enforcement are friends
SO this is basically Tom Cruise and 'Minority Report' 🤔. How is it after starting to see a pattern of police harassment no one has a camera or recorder at the ready and how is it NONE of these homes have security systems where we can see repeat harassment by cops. Like half this shite sounds straight science fiction and half pre WW2 G3rmany, so how is it this channel or anywhere else isn't showing 24/7 feed of police harassment maybe they need to to keep an ACTIVE running log like the police do might as well get as many eyes as you can and dedicate some of this channel to citizen watch or citizen ousting 🤷.
Earning The hate is what police are especially good at! That and not finding out who stole your car--------
"Well you see, the genius of the system is, the more people on the list the better it works. We call it our active community involvement initiative." (Their most likely PR response)
Don't think so. They do the usual sham investigation of themselves, and announce that they have found no wrong doing. It's always the same scam.
It's kind of like the Chinese social credit system isn't it.
Good God are we still in the United States of America even the officers out of got to say hey wait a minute or is it all to abuse put down and bully your own citizens oh my God what the hell is happening here
It's an American it's got to go if someone agrees with this program it's a pretty good idea they're on American and they're an infiltrator hopefully the good guys will find the bad guys on this one
It's un-American screw the money you're you're putting down Americans you are oppressing us how on Earth can any American officer even think this is a good idea what happened to the red white and blue one you know freedom and all that when you're being systematically oppressed by your local police departments yikes
If you complain to the police about harassment or something; they say they cannot do anything about it UNTIL a serious crime is committed. As in only over your dead body will they actually step in.
So there is absolutely NO legal precidence in place with which Law Enforcement has any right to prosecute BEFORE a crime is committed!
If someone is suspected of 'heading down the wrong path', then they should implement interventive assistance to course correct their behaviour. NOT punish them regardless of a crime actually having been committed!
But, our system is constructed on ways to generate money; not helping society. Our prisons are already overcrowded. Innocent mixed with minor & serious offenders. Our punishment system is out of control & little to nothing is done to help society.
More & more rights are being violated as we sit by complacently! Most people don't seem to notice or care until it happens to them or a loved one. But things like this prove it could happen to ANYONE at ANYTIME! Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?....🚔🏛🗽 ⚖
That sounds like section 241 sounds like a First Amendment violation and a Fourth Amendment violation and 14th and the 5th Amendment
Another example of government taking advantage of the law with respect to the use of technology.... or in this case, pseudo-technology.
I broke this story well before the Tampa Bay Times
That's why I get my news from you and other independent journalists that do similar work as yours!
Keep up the hard work John!
Wow that crazy
Excellent! Then what did you do with that information?
You didn’t break Jack. you’re a piece of shit auditor hiding behind your freedoms as an excuse to treat people like crap.
and I'm writing the same things I did in your comments when you did break this story. criminal activity.
Sounds like some aspects that targeted individuals go through including gang stalking
They don't need an algorithm as an excuse. In McKinney TX, this was done to me because I had a stalker who had kidnapped me twice and tried to kill me. The police could not catch him so instead decided to harass me. Four squad cars would pull me over everytime I pulled out of my driveway, wanting to search my vehicle. One time they pulled me over and informed me they had an anonymous phone call telling them I was involved in terroristic activities. I actually laughed at them. I was from that day on in 2004 put on the national Domestic Terrorist list. Ultimately this ruined my entire life, unable to get a job, harassed and gangstalked everywhere I go. This is 1984.
Sounds like the people of that county need to do there own scared straight program for these tyrents!
People don’t seem to realize the police are here to “protect and serve” the elected officials and their whims within their district first and foremost. The citizen’s needs come 2nd always.
Actually they just protect the rich and the minions of the rich.
Thank you institute for justice, wonderful to see somebody taking on these rogue agencies. These people are true Patriots and an example of how citizens take back their governments.
This has ruined my life. I don't feel safe anywhere. There is no amount of money that I would win in a case that would make me feel ok again. I am messed up for life. My life is very small and I am broke so nobody will help me.
I hope the police state never gets out of control like it obviously did in Pasco county
If I lived in Pasco County I'd relocate out as soon as I was able.
What does the DOJ have to say about the horrific trauma caused by these life "disruptions" which effectively mirror ZERSETZUNG TORTURE? I feel like my country has betrayed me in converting MY ONCE VIABLE LIFE into a waste, where my nerves are frazzled and I no longer operate on the same higher level I once did due to the tremendous damage that has been done to my nervous system, social ecosystem, and life?
There is a reason the DOJ HAS BEEN SILENT ON THE STATISTICS AND NUMBERS OF PEOPLE DISCREDITED AND DELIBERATELY DESTROYED BY THIS EVIL CHARADE OF POLICING. IT IS NOT POLICING, IT IS PREDATORY.
If a predictive policing algorithm can be created so can a predictive tyranny / corruption algorithm. Create and publish that!
Imagine the people using the same logic.
We the People, are making a LIST as well.
They’re going to shove that list down our throats after emptying the clip onto us. We can’t beat them
@@Aheroswelcome14 The " CLIP " nice try liberal.
@@Aheroswelcome14 I believe that the disloyal scouts who went into the Promised Land and bemoaned the fortified cities were executed after loyal scouts reported how beautiful the land was, and how taking it would be a great boon. Sure enough, the Israelites were able to take it.
History has shown that everyone has a limit, and it doesn't matter how scary the government supposedly is.
Just remember, the cops ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. They ARE NOT there to "help you." Don't help them, DON'T SPEAK to them, and DO NOT EVER let them in your house w/out a SEARCH WARRANT.
The Tampa Bay article linked in the description provides a good summary of the situation. Frightening abuse of authority by the sheriff. Even more so because HR sees nothing wrong with it. Gestapo tactics didn't end well before, they won't end well here. And unfortunately the sheriff will likely be able to walk away with no consequences after something terrible happens. Disgusting and so preventable.
And the beat cops who do their dirty work are on the level of the same one's who shoved people in ovens. We were just following orders.
Something bad will happen between a cop and citizen in this program. Then it will get national attention and the program will be stopped. Until then this will continue ongoing.
I love the way that the police are able to bully their fellow citizens into becoming law breakers as the program predicted. It guarantees the continuation of the program. I wonder why the state is not stopping this travesty. So glad that I don't live there.
Predictive Policing is the same as Fishing for Revenue!
Cops are fishing to find a crime that you are GOING to commit!
I commit a crime everyday!
Breathing!!!!
Thank you for your work, IJ!
Thank you for taking this case, we must stop this from spreading. I hope you completely break Pasco County. Show no mercy, others are watching.
This is disgusting. Short story I'm from Crossville Tennessee my brother was married got separated got a lawyer starting paying child support went to court got visitation rights. On pick up days the mom wouldn't show up. Note she lived in county next to us this will come into play. So we went to our sheriff office they said the only thing they could do is work with fentress county sheriff to serve her with obstruction of court order. Problem was fentress county wouldn't work with Crossville sheriff because they couldn't find out where she lived. Told us if we could find out let them know. One rainy day after work I worked in the county she lived in. I seen her mother so I thought oh I will follow her maybe find out. Long story short I was 4 cars behind her made no contact with her
Whatsoever 10 miles later she pulled into fentress county sheriff department. I turned around headed home. 2 months later
Police show up to my house arrest me for stalking I had never even had a parking ticket record was clean my life changed forever had to hire a lawyer miss work I hadn't missed a day in 2 years. Case was dropped the Fentress county Judge was so upset said the case was unbelievable. For 10 years that showed on my record. The Sheriff in this case was my sister in law uncle and that tells the whole story. My heart goes out to these people
Love it when a police dep.t comes up with a new system or gadget that seems intrusive, but the police chief says not to worry! we just use this as a tool to keep our city safe. That's when I know the devil's in the details.
It’s always about safety. You think the lockdowns created a safe haven from a miniscule virus?
Imagine what the pigs, military (NorthComm) and the security firms (with clearances) are getting away with? Congress legalized the endless torture of US citizens when they passed The War Commissions Act. If you want to challenge that psychotronic torture, you'll be rebuffed by assertions of National Security. The burden is on the moving party to prove party in interest (standing, ripeness). How will a citizen investigate without resources? Isn't that what the worthless punk DOJ-FBI is supposed to do?
Revealing who owns said agencies, may also reveal a motive.
It's harrassing the 'undesirables' to get them to move elsewhere.
Another example of someone sitting in jail for something they didn't do and then pleading guilty so they will be released. I met several people in jail for all sorts of crimes who pleaded guilty just so they could leave jail. If they didn't plead guilty they were threatened with at least six months in jail. Can you imagine, some guy arrested for being drunk in public and then sits in jail for six months?
Sounds like a violation of the 1st 4th 5th 6th and 8th Amendments! And our courts are okay with it.
In my day it was simply called the "shit list".
When X do it its racist policing. When Y do it its predictive policing.
Time to get rid of all these politicians, sheriffs included, that think 1984 is a textbook and not a dystopian novel.
I believe that this type of treatment is only marginally acceptable if the person targeted was on parole or probation. Never heard of something like this happening to a regular citizen. It doesn't matter if the person was arrested in the past. If the person isn't currently under court ordered supervision this is illegal.
This situation doesn't require a lawsuit - it requires a RICO statute investigation, and a major crackdown by the DOJ. The LEOs that have any responsibility for this program need to be in federal prison for the remainder of their lives for the protection of the people. Forcing taxpayers, who in this case are clearly sheep, to pay a lawsuit settlement will do nothing to stop this program. In fact putting a lawsuit behind them will empower them to use it more aggressively, and begin replicating it nation wide. You can ask the DOJ civil rights division to investigate this situation via mail, phone, or online form at civilrights.justice.gov/.
So another case of life imitating art... aka Phillip K Dick’s novella ‘Minority Report’ later turned into a Spielberg movie (starring Tom Cruise) of the same name... Yeah, the story/movie ended with horrific and bad outcome. I predict (pun intended) this type of ‘future crime’ policing will also. What will be next is George Orwell’s ‘Thought Crime’ ....
Also Person of Interest. About using the tech to help people who were deemed to be victims of crime based on the pattern recognition technology vs just going after offenders.
Yup that's what I just said. SO this is basically Tom Cruise and 'Minority Report' 🤔. How is it after starting to see a pattern of police harassment no one has a camera or recorder at the ready and how is it NONE of these homes have security systems where we can see repeat harassment by cops. Like half this shite sounds straight science fiction and half pre WW2 G3rmany, so how is it tjdi channel or anywhere else isn't showing 24/7 feed of police harassment maybe they need to to keep an ACTIVE running log like the police do might as well get as many eyes as you can and dedicate some of this channel to citizen watch or citizen ousting 🤷.
Thought crime is already here. That is what cancel culture is.
@@migueldelmazo5244 It’s also social media and search engines. The whole Internet can be used against you and censor you.
I can tell you straight up that thought crime is here. Look into the Church hearings from 50 years ago and the testimony of it's use by store owners for prevention of shoplifting and clerk theft. It is very real and some of the very worst people are using something as simple as an app on a phone to interpret your eeg signals. Throw in stingrays with complete control of your communication devices, microwave technology that "beats",(akin to cochlear implant technology transferring vibration from your skull to your inner ear) thoughts into your head, and policing turns into God status in the minds of the uninitiated. How many times have you heard that voices in their head have led people to commit heinous acts? People must absolutely become aware that not all of your thoughts are your own. Be true to who you REALLY are in all of your thoughts and deeds.
The institute for Justice people are excellent and they deserve your support. They fight hard and usually win against unconstitutional government actions all over the country on a variety of issues. If you don't currently support them please think about starting.
I raised my sons in the 90s and if I were raising them in Pasco county today my kids would have been on the Pasco county's 10 most wanted...LOL. Raised by a poor (but educated) single mom, all 3 had run ins with the police and were incarcerated at some point or another. All three ADHD. Now they are grown. One is a desal mechanic, one a Navy Seal Chief and my baby is a hard working, independent and all around honest good guy. And they turned out that way DISPITE a system that was supposed to help them find their way...by penalizing and harassing them, as well as their Mom, at every opportunity. My children are a prime example of men who fit the parameters of the Pasco County's definition of a "prolific offender" and just grew up to be men I could be proud of.
Why Florida? This makes me rethink about moving down to Florida...
I lived in Pinellas, think, think, think again!
What disturbs me is how often they say "future decisions" as if any of us would ever engage in criminal behavior.
Never ever talk to police without a warrant
never use that background filter again. make the state court overturn her "conviction" . sue the DA, department, county, the maker of the algorithm.... everyone!
Rightfully so the government should have to answer the questions, questions asked by Military Officers holding the Constitutional Keys over military tribunals for absolute fascists, who deserve whatever they get
As an AI programmer, I can guarantee you that there is no program that could be developed that could predict any criminal behavior with more than 1% accuracy. 1% accuracy is less than chance.
Good works guys! Keep it up.
How about the judges that are finding these people (me included) guilty of these "code violations"? Are they not in on it too? Of course they are.
1984
What about it?
Left a message on your web site. As a retired police Lt (department of over 400 officers) with a computer science degree I am appalled. Sounds like Chinese social score - and the Chinese are pretty good at suppressing crime but at a cost we are not willing to pay in this country.
This is the same as restricting law abiding citizens from gun ownership. It is literally “pre-crime”.
the answer to 1984 is 1776