Can Atheists Spot Secret Atheists In A Crowd?
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2024
- I've had a rough few weeks with work being backwards about me not being a believer, so I felt like trying this out, before going back to pointing out silly things... so here is a jubilee video where 2 atheists are surrounded by 5 pastors, and the idea is to spot them... Let's just say I'm NOT very good at this... But also, I do have some things to say about what the 'pastors' say.
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Title - Can Atheists Spot Secret Atheists In A Crowd?
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How to find the atheist:
Find the one that has actually read the holy book and doesn't make excuses for what's written in it.
That's confirmed by one of the atheists at the end saying they have a degree in theology.
But wouldn't the person pretend to be not an atheist and just acts like a theist?
It takes real talent to convincingly act dumb.
its also the fact that they were it felt like of younger generation theists in the millenial to gen Z demographic so i was sure that that was the twist for those 2 of showing HOW DIFFERENT between the older and younger generations religion has gotten.
Why didn't the pastors just pray to ask which were the atheists?
Probably because they know it won't work. The average professional christian is also a professional scammer.
They don't need 'God' to be involved in everything.
IF God is real, sometimes, he prefers to be just in the audience and be entertained.
@@raydunn8262Really? Did he tell you that?
@raydunn8262 If he is about, he has done that a lot since 2C BCE...I mean, he used to be right in there; hardening hearts to twist free will, raining fire, talking out loud, making dramatic entrances on thrones, physically walking with prophets, etc.
@mdug7224 God finally realized His Old Testament ways weren't ways weren't working anymore
Like, a movie franchise, he waited some time. Then He started dicating the reboot and softened himself up. God is realizing, even Him, one can only milk something so long.
Anyone can spot an atheist surrounded by pastas. Atheists are not noodle-like at all.
Unless they're Pastafarian, of course.
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May we all be touched by noodley appediage and bathed in his marinara sauce
LOL
Your not noodly?
I feel like this was a relatively easy win for the contestants. They were able to just vote based on their natural biases. Lets see, they voted out the woman, the gay man, and the black man. Well done, nothing suspicious about these picks at all.
Way to go and insert your own bias and intents to people and implicitly accuse them of racism/sexism/homophobia, because this is absolutely what you did.
There's actually nothing suspicious about their choices because they are based not on bias, but on numbers and probabilities: women can't be pastors in most christian denominations, so her saying she's a pastor is a blatant falsehood straight from the start.
Second, the gay man: the probabilities of having a gay man being a christian, and even more so, a christian pastor, are very low, not impossible obviously, but low enough so as to easily assume the gay man among the group of people pretending to be a pastor is lying about it.
And as for the black man, well, same thing: black people only make up 13% of the total US population, based on this alone, black pastors would make up an absolute minority of pastors, and while black americans are more religiously inclined than any other group in America, it's still a tiny minority, and most black people only frequent black only congregations, who are known to practice christianity in a very much more flamboyant way.
"Natural biases" and "suspicious", no, there is nothing suspicious nor biased, facts and evidence demonstrate that this choice of theirs was the most logical.
Yeah. My thoughts exactly. Just vote what is normally considered the out-group for your in-group (In case of US Christian nationalists that's women, gays and blacks) and you'll likely be right. If Jubilee wanted to create a real honest challenge they should've gone with 7 middle-aged white guys.
Literally the first though I had was, one of the atheists is the woman because there's almost no woman pastors, they can just vote her right away
@@profilore Protestant Church in Germany was led by a woman for a good long while ...
@KaiHenningsen wow great exception you got there.
Definitely can't say all pastors are men now
"Two are liars" - NO.
Two play a role, five are liars - either to their flock or to themselves.
Lying would mean being intentionally misleading. For example, someone who has been brainwashed to believe something demonstrably untrue wouldn't be lying when spewing their belief because they think that they are correct.
Ouch! Harsh, but true... and quick witted, too.
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Not necessarily. According to Merriam-Webster, [fourth definition] a lie can be “an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker or writer.” So intentionality may not play a part in a lie.
Being a “liar” does imply a stronger case for intentionality. But if you are lying to yourself, does that make you a liar? It’s arguable.
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Saying someone is lying is often used from a person's own perspective. Like someone "spreading gossip" might believe what they've heard and repeated is true, but someone actually familiar with the situation might say "she a lier". Words can have more than one meaning, and sometimes the concept they express are not precise and varies greatly by context. The example I like is,
"You look hot in those cool shades".
There's no need to nitpick when everyone here gets the point from the context and shared perspective.
@@autonomouscollective2599 A lie is a lie whether the person saying it knows it's a lie - but a liar is a person who deliberately tells lies.
Ergo, a person who genuinely believes in a lie is not themself a liar, even if they repeat and spread that lie among others. In my humble opinion.
Of course it's a fairly arbitrary distinction, as none of us can read minds, knowing whether someone is being deliberate in their lie or not is pretty much impossible most of the time.
Atheists surrounded by pastas? The Flying Spaghetti Monster is with us always.
Pasturing, is the activity of feeding the bull.
Touched by his noodly appendage
Accept no impastas
Needs to be said that just because you're a pastor doesn't mean you can't be an atheist.
There are many
@@ihatespam2 See the FFRF.
And the Clergy Project
@@KaiHenningsen already have…
Gretta Vosper of the United Church of Canada comes to mind.
I would love to have been in that box. I'm an atheist, but also a former evangelical Christian pastor. I could have definitely said all of the right things for everyone to think I'm definitely a pastor. 😅
It seems that you have too much personal integrity to grift the way all of the televangelists conduct their business. I would like to give you my congratulations on doing the right thing. I also hope your life is better for you than it was before. Peace 💚
@@DaveB-hg7el thanks. I like to think that my personal integrity is pretty high. It's definitely why I left after critically reading the Bible cover to cover during seminary studies (I started as assistant youth pastor at my church by apprenticing under the senior and assistant/youth pastor before going for a formal seminary degree), and realizing just how badly written and unscientific the Bible really was and how much of a monster the Abrahamic god is portrayed
Observing The Atheist in its natural habitat. Saying this in a David Attenborough voice.
I totally should’ve done that. There’s a video of mine with an Attenborough impression somewhere on here.
You can always visit Northern Europe.
@@TheSkepTick19:13 what's this all about? Isn't that technically discrimination for religious belief (or lack thereof)?
I guessed right! I knew Anna was an atheist since she was really vague about her religious education or pretty much anything else. I'm pretty sure the Lutheran training for pastors includes real seminary time and not some nebulous meeting of people at some unnamed church located somewhere. Daniel was a question until he said he was ordained for 'some time'. I'm like, "you don't know when you were ordained?" He was also a little vague on some other points. They should've tried to get a former minister or priest who spent time behind the pulpit but later left when they became an atheist. Quite a few of those folks around.
They would of course give themselves away with the baby eating.
They purposely kept babies out of the room. They also had strict rules against murdering, stealing, and indiscriminately sinning- like atheists love to do.
Sorry that's reserved for the Bishop of Bath and Wells.
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Didn't he get arrested based on some preliminary sketches?
@@stylesrj Nope. Gave himself absolution after paying off EB for the sketches.
That's how you identify Catholics.
We all failed because we didn’t want to seem misogynistic or homophobic.
Looks like the winners didn’t worry about that… or about racism.
Because there was nothing of the likes. This goes to show how wokeness and perpetual racial and sexual grievances based on mostly made-up issues have poisoned the minds of people and forced them to go against their common sense and intuitions.
Picking the woman, the black dude and the gay dude were the most logical choices, and no sexism, racism or homophobia has anything to do with it, and the people who only see the world through that twisted prism and always assume everyone else is -iste or -phobe is a sick mind.
So they intentionally chose the “obvious” choices (female and gay) who were guaranteed to be voted out the moment they sounded suspicious rather than making it difficult.
Yeah, I get the desire for diversity, but for an experiment like this, having obvious qualities that are classically antithetical to being a pastor is sort of a red herring. Instead of focusing on what they say and trying to pick up on clues, we're too busy (as was the SkepTick) trying to determine in which way the producers were trying to throw us off - a situation kind of like the game of wits from The Princess Bride.
@wonkydonk9073 except that in this case the obvious "red herring" was the answer.
It's like posting a question "identify the Communists" and including Stalin and Mao.
And it wasn't "identify the atheists", but "identify the fake pastors"
If it was "identify the atheists in this group of Christians", all you have to do is start a Christian discussion or wait for one to start, and the quiet people are the atheists.
That's the thing - Christians are willing to bring up God with no prompting, while atheists don't talk about religion until forced.
@@aaronbredon2948 Eh. Sometimes people are just shy and introvert, even Christians.
I'd say the only sure-fire way to identify an atheist, is for them to walk up to you and say "I'm an atheist". Unless you're a mind reader.
@@LadyDoomsinger And then you have people who walk up to you and say "I'm a theist", and then it just gets confusing for everybody.
“Just a lit fuse in the back of the pews watching a thousand flavors of the same god feud”-Aesop Rock, Holy Smokes
What sort of f’ed up employer puts someone on probation for not believing in the unbelievable? I’m so thankful I live in a country where that sort of discrimination would be smacked down instantly. Hope it works out for you Skeptick.
Man, Between last week and this week I’m starting to get really concerned for you at your job. So sorry you have to go through that. Now I am by no means an attorney but I have been a business owner and manager with employees of my own for over 20 years and for the life of me I can’t conceive of any way they could put you on probation for being a non-believer without it being massively illegal. Even if that’s the “real” reason they’re doing it, but saying something nebulous like it’s because you’re “not a team player” or don’t fit with “corporate culture” it still could be something actionable. I know I don’t know you or anymore of the situation than what little you’ve shared in videos but I would suggest you maybe think about contacting an attorney who specializes in Employment Law to make sure you know what your rights are and what your employer can and cannot do. Because even in “Right to Work” states where you can fire someone pretty much anytime for any reason doing so because of someone’s religion is way not ok.
Stay strong, hope things get better for you.
I have to imagine he just accepts it due to him seeming to live in bumblefuck nowhere and he just had an emotional time with his child in the hospital. If the hospital wasn't an issue I'd say go for it.
I can't imagine this either, but some workplaces do suck and get away with dodgy stuff.
Anna and Daniel were "stage left" and the pastors were "stage right." It was a set-up from the beginning.
Finding fellow atheists is vital to doing our super secret satanic handshake.
I think you would stand out in any group. After all, there aren't that many British floating circles in the US, atheist or otherwise
I was a Christian for almost 30 years. I was fundamentalist and insanely dedicated. If you asked me to preach tomorrow I absolutely could. In fact I regularly preach to my mom over the phone (because I haven’t told her yet)
I assume you haven't told your mom yet because you believe she will have a bad reaction to the news. I hope your situation works out for you. Peace 💚
I could definitely do the believer act to 100%, but the bar is set that high in Sweden. Besides, the Church of Sweden preaches much of a social message - take care of the hungry, homeless, in grief …..
Under Title VII of federal law it's illegal to discriminate based on your religion or lack there of at your job. Federal law trumps state law. Even in at will state.
Trump WISHES state law was federal law. 😛
So, how do I volunteer to visit atheists in the hospital? I'm not a believer, and I'd love to just spend some time with them without mentioning gods.
Non-believer probation? That's a thing? That's silly.
Sounds a teensy bit less than legal, too.
I think "pastoring" is the community leadership role that goes with the office. It's the bit where they check how all they're parishioners (etc) are doing and if they have any problems that a pastor might be able to help with or offer advice or other forms of support. It's the utility of religion and why it's lasted so long.
Yes, given that they don't try to preach at every opportunity to drag their God into the conversation.
" Pasta jokes "? How dare you insult my flying spaghetti monster! He'll lay down broken shards of dry spaghetti everywhere in front of you to spike your feet, a fate worse than leggo blocks!
Ngl, my first initial ping was Daniel, then I realised I actually just needed to turn off my gay-dar and turn on my athi-dar
Whoa whoa whoa?? Probation?? Do you work at a religi place, @TheSkepTick?
With a week left at my current job, I just “came out” as an atheist to a coworker this week with few worries. Living in the South definitely has some peril. lol
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Thanks so much for all you do!!! May Lisa the rainbow giraffe bestow leaves on you and your beautiful circle family
Thanks Candice.
I’m still sorry you’re going through that with your job. Kind of feels like that would qualify as discrimination based on religious beliefs and you could file against them.
Anyway, we love you Skep! Hope things improve moving forward.
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Great episode! I couldn’t spot the atheist because I’m not one. But I haven’t been a member at any church for about 20 years, so pastor qualifications or recent ‘pastoring’ activities were of no use to me.
Yeah, that small town thing is definitely a weird thing. I work all over the state, and when customers ask me where I'm from or how long the drive home is going to be, when I *do* tell them the city I technically live in (we're actually outside city limits 😅) they have NO idea where I'm talking about, so I start with the closest bigger city by the interstate, which maybe a third of people recognize, and for the other two thirds I clarify "Birmingham, but X miles to the East".
Yeah, y'know, I guess I can see that. Where I grew up isn't even really that out of the way, but it genuinely wouldn't make sense to try to answer what town it was in because it was actually closer to several other towns than its mailing address would suggest.
I actually lived in upper Michigan, the part that everyone thinks is part of Canada or Wisconsin. If I'm talking to another Yooper, then yeah I'll tell them the town I lived in, Gwinn. Anyone else I say about 25 miles south of Marquette, b/c it really is the only "city" there. It really is that rural.
Woot, props to you for having been an atheist pastor! We do indeed need more of that.
3:30 "Something-or-other Bible College ... Degree in theology with a focus in biblical studies"
When I hear people say things like this I often wonder, is there a "Middle Earth University" where I can get a degree in "Myths & Legends" with a focus on The Silmarillion? There really should be.
All lessons in Elvish.
Saying I'm agnostic is a strategic move.
This is one of the few UA-cam videos I've seen, where i didn't end it with thinking that christians are fucking terrifying
I got them both because I had seen the original TV program before; while the first time I watched I only guessed one of them correctly.
To be fair, this isn't so much a game of "spot the atheist" it's a game of "spot the liar" - everyone was looking for clues and tells that they were being dishonest, looking at their body language, their presentation, their words - not anything that actually would have identified them as atheist... though I'm not really sure what would identify someone as atheist, short of them just telling you. Because that's basically the only way to know.
The literal only thing atheists have in common, it not believing in god(s)
Anna was the only one that really struck me as an atheist, I think before she even opened her mouth. The other atheist I was suspicious of, but I wasn't sure about the bearded guy either.
Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
0:22 I thought he said pastas for a second 💀
Guessed Daniel just because he seemed too hyped to be there. Was thinking Don for the other because of the way he was questioning them.
This was a fun one! These videos just make me remember you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover
Edit: I enjoyed the erudite “past a” joke, as opposed to the sophomoric “pasta” joke 😂 8:57
I had to switch it up a little.
19:18 um... that's blatantly illegal. If they flatly told you that, that's definitely worth a lawsuit, or at the very least, a strongly-worded letter from FFRF
Since where I come from no-one gives a toss, I usually have to have to carry a flashing billboard above me labeled "Atheist here. Please buy me a pint".
Wait, wait, wait ... let's just go back to the whole "being put on probation for not being a believer" thing! I hope you've already spoken to the FFRF and gotten some legal advice.
Already on it!
Back when I was in college we set up an experiment in guessing people's inclinations. We put observers along a walkway and sent an interviewer to walk with whoever happened along. The subjects were college students, so we made a list of college-related traits, such as majors, sports, frats, and such. We were fairly accurate in our guessings. I don't recall the numbers on religious leanings, though.
When I worked fast food you could normally guess some peoples order just by hearing their voice. It's weird how when you do something long enough you start noticing trends
You’re one of the few people who knows the proper definition of agnosticism. Bravo!
Extra comment after watching to the end: so your work didn't fire you, but still retaliated against you? Time to file a lawsuit. Retaliation against an employee for religious beliefs is illegal. Since you're in the south I'd be willing to bet you're not part of a union (they're demonized down here) but if by some slim chance you do have a union rep, call them immediately.
Yes, your boss is violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title VII
"This week I have to go on probation because I'm a non-believer. Isn't that ridiculous?"
No, that's discrimination, and it's illegal. Take them to court, HARD.
You should do the one where it's atheists trying to find a secret christian! That would be fun!
It is a pretty significantly nasty thing to tell people as a pastor that youre going to "pray against them".
Subbed, liked, and I'm belled, too. And feeding the comments algorithm....
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The best way to set this up is to just tell 5 pastors that there is an atheist amongst them
I was surprisingly spot on with my starting guess, something about their genuine smiles and the life in their eyes made me suspicious that they were the atheists just from the pictures in the opening. I did second guess myself a tad, especially towards the end, but most atheists just can't do the empty smile quite like a theist can- without even trying.
It's okay to have different interpretations of the book, or any book, or any belief system . . .. as long as you don't insist that anyone else adhere to your interpretation.
To say, “once I had an experience, I never questioned my faith.” Is like saying, I’m gullible and have no sense outside my narcissism, so I’ll stay dumb.
I prayed to the Lord High Atheismo. That didn't provide much guidance. So I prayed to their offspring Algorithmo. Still came up empty. I need to work on my disbelief.
Edit: I really should have asked Lisa, leaf be upon her, for guidance and discernment.
Paul's teeth are way too good to of ever been a meth addict
I thought this as well.
@@Nocturnalux it's why I thought he was definitely a pastor it's one of those bullshit I was an atheist stories like every atheist is a drug addict
There are really good replacements like dentures or prosthetics...
@@Wolf-ln1ml yes but the skin conditions that accompany it are a lot harder to get rid of I wasn't going to be picky about it but seeing you brought it up
@@casper130rocksYes, and it doesn't take very long before your body shows the problems the drug usage causes.
Probation because you are a non-believer? This can't be legal can it? What is going on? Hang in there Skeptick.. love your content.
Part of the problem is that many of us are so used to dealing with apologists that ordinary pastors seem downright reasonable by comparison. Most pastors live in the real world, accept the realities of a billions-year-old Earth, and have parishioners that are concerned with real-world issues.
The two plants were so good, I'm now wondering if they were even the tokens they presented themselves to be. Maybe they're both straight white dudes from Kentucky.
Daniel’s elevator pitch at the end was ultra suspicious. But really, they couldn’t find a female pastor? There are plenty!
I was raised Catholic in Germany in a very Catholic area. The number of Protestants was so comparatively low that for the 17 Catholic parishes in my hometown there were 2 Protestant churches and that’s fudging it, because one of them is technically in the next city, but had congregants from my town. These congregations are essentially generic Protestant, because at minimum Lutherans (it’s Germany after all) and Reformed merge into combined congregations there.
I’m Portuguese, a country so Catholic that “Catholic” and “Christian” are basically synonyms. Most people around me would be hard pressed to even explain what a Protestant is.
I'm out-standing in my field, I'm a pasture pastor.
Being on probation for being a non-believer is unconstitutional!
Better call Saul.
Which constitution? While I’d love to have the SkepTick on this side of the pond, something tells me he ain’t exactly a yankee.
Still, any law that demands you subscribe to a specific religion should be abolished on principle.
@awkwardukulele6077 strong point and yes, I'm from the more ironically secular theocracy across the pond. For shame.
I was very brief. Unless the employment contract specifies that a particular religion be necessary for the role, general employment contracts are bound by government and equality legislation. With the US also being constitutionally secular, there's a big case for claiming discrimination in the workplace....
....but if a US judge is an evangelical, I suppose it's like pissing in the wind unless you have a thick wallet.
(I've written a few contracts in a previous life.)
Anna's lack of micro-denomination wasn't a flag to me. I've been where Anna is from -- it's 20 miles of nothing but a two lane road cutting through 30+ foot tall evergreen forests, a bar at a crossroads, 10 more miles of evergreens, a town of less than 100 people, 30 more miles of evergreens, another tiny town, etc.
The entire UP is nice that way, minus the times when its just a frozen wasteland of course
Can relate. I have family near Powers.
It wouldn’t be hard to pick you out on one of these shows. How many British floating circles can there be in the US?
Well, I got Anna right. It was just completely off how she couldn't name specifics for much of anything. I eliminated Daniel straight away because I was thinking "If you're a gay person pretending to be a Christian, obviously you lie & say you're straight given how homophobia is rampant in Christianity." Maybe he was trying to double-psych, & it would've worked on me, but it didn't work on them. It was hard for me to figure out who I thought the second fake was, but I ultimately settled on Zach, given how a lot of Jubilees I see have one imposter that takes control of the conversation & it felt like he could've easily been an ex-Christian drawing on experience.
Actually, I'd really like to see this in reverse: Can a couple of theists trick a bunch of atheists into thinking they're atheists? Not to backseat, but I really think a lot of atheists could've pulled this off with better strategies. Think someone like Paulogia or Prophet of Zod. But we all know there are plenty of religious apologists who very transparently pretend to be former atheists, so I'm legitimately not sure it would work in reverse.
I only kinda figured them out once the tiebreaker came in. Quite a coincidence that those two went straight to identity politics when elimination came up. The woman complained about biases against women and the gay guy even joked about them not being biased and get rid of the gay guy.
Given that even the more slightly left leaning Christians don't have that kinda line of thought, there ya go. I'd never have even thought about those two while they were in the box though.
I was expecting a Monty Python skit.
Feel like they could have found former evangelicals who could easily pass as current pastors. Oh well.
I had a coworker out me as one the other day, but i don't remember what he said for his reason why. We were busy on tasks so i didn't get a chance to follow up.
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My first guess was right, but when the old guy opened his mouth I thought it might be him, not her. Should have stuck with my gut.
I picked Anna, but switched from the yellow hat guy to the gray haired guy. I didn't think of the gay guy because the last church I attended is now pastored by a tattooed person (I think was born a female from the first name) whose pronouns are they/them. This is becoming more common in churches and I thought the gay guy was really a pastor too. I don't think an Atheist would normally try and deceive people into thinking they were a pastor. I guess the two Atheists didn't lie as they started out belonging to a church or studied religion in some form.
Here in The Shoals, a metro area here in northwest Alabama. Is infested with churches. And I wanna see if it's rather similar where you are in blue grass country. The city and county I live in has about 350 churches located in the county area, while Florence (My hometown) has 110 churches. The neighborhood that I live in, has a church on every street. That is 100% accuritz! Our population is roughly 90 - 100,000, that's county + city pop. So 460 churches surrounds me. Of course these are congregations of multiple denominations, and with an average member number of around 300. Some with numbers as low as 15 members, to 2000 members. There are Methodists, Baptist, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, Jehovah's Witness, Church of Judea, 7th Day Adventist, and a slew of little side road, rural 10 - 30 member churches everywhere in between. We had a really cool black church that was basically next block over that when they had service? It was loud, jumping, and the drums was the best! You could hear them like it was a concert. I give the black christians credit though. They will show out with good music! All of this around me, and this isn't including the other half of our metropolitan area 😂. Basically Double the numbers and you've got roughly 900 or so, tax free denominations. Which the small churches don't bring in no where near the amount the larger congregations bring. But they're the ones with more lunatic fringe types. I believe the county I live in, Lauderdale. Was where one the first reported deaths from snake handlers. I could be wrong, so don't take that 100. We have a church directory with 8 churches, their denomination, addresses, and what mile point they're located. Along a stretch of road that is about 11 miles long. That's a church nearly every mile. On one road! I sometimes feel like I'm surrounded by nut cases lol. Some are cool people, but people aren't the problem. It's what is being driven into their brains that they perceive as reality. That's the problem! Is this how it is for you guys?
OK, I will play along too. I grew up Lutheran, and what you said about sects was true. Also in the country like the sole female and I found her not knowing which sect she was in suspicious. There is some truth in your claim of minor differences between sects. At that time I knew which sect I was in. There were two in our area. One was LCA and the other was ALC. You can probably work out the acronyms. Ironically both of the churches had the same name, and the sects were almost identical and now are identical. They are now part of ELCA. But if you want a very different sect there is the "Missouri Synod". I can't remember their full title. Those are hard core literalistic Lutherans. I could even openly doubt the myths of Genesis in the sect that I belonged to. I no longer remember which of the two sects that I was in, but that was fifty years ago.
Is there more story coming on that probation at work thing? That sounds like awful things are afoot. Hope you're alright.
At first I went with Zach (yellow hat) and Anna. Then I changed my mind on Zach and went with Don (black guy). I would NEVER have figured Daniel (gay guy) for being an atheist. I've known several gay Christians; the lesbian couple above me, for instance. So I guess I really flubbed up and got only one right (Anna).
I went with Don and Jay. Wrong on both.
Just so you know, he's up there watching. The big J, daddy and spook are sitting on their cosmic couch chewing on popcorn. While waiting on what the hell we'll do to ourselves next.
"This week I have to go on probation at my place of work because I'm a non-believer."
What?! What the hell does that mean?
4:34 Marquette, is the in the “UP” upper peninsula. For those that don’t know… I’ve been there….. and yea, it’s small small. Beautiful place though
Marquette is pretty small but the rest is a LOT of nothing
@@crazynachos4230 hey hey hey! It's not "nothing* ! The deer are going to be very offended
It's so weird watching people talk about not doing anything productive.
Maybe they should start a book club.
@TheSkepTick 19:10 Please PLEASE explain in a reply to this message how you are on probation at work for being a non-believer. I cannot see how they could possibly do that legally.
See my previous video
@@TheSkepTick Great, will do, thank you very much for replying! 🙂
Every "none" I've met went on to describe themselves as believers in the christian god who just don't like most religious leaders
6:50 : the verses were reinterpreted to be anti homosexuality, the wording points more towards them being toward anti pederastry. More progressive believers and pastors start recognizing this.
I picked the lady and the guy in the hat, so I was with you on him SkepTick!
Honestly..."I'm going to pray against you" is the most Christian thing I've heard said here today. 😂
I heard " pastors" as "pastas" and jumped to pastafarians.
I’m pretty sure that’s some sort of superpower so probably not.
Uh, guys, a lot of people aren't willing to give personal details (ie, hometown) to strangers. Ease up.
Having said that, when she introduced herself, her voice went up when she said "I'm a pastor" almost like she was asking a question. Set off my radar.
The thing I took away from the video is that SkepTick is on probation at work for not believing? WTF?!
I thought Zach was the atheist. In my experience the stronger the knowledge of religion, the stronger the atheist.
The problem with this particular episode is that professional god botherers have years and years of experience in lying and pretending to publicly believe in things they know are not true. All the while maintaining a straight face. The atheists never stood a chance.
You're on probation at work for being a non-believer???? That's absolute insanity, I'm sorry to hear that. This is why I will never publicly say I'm an atheist
Dude...thanks, dude.
I wouldn't be able to do this because I couldn't be surrounded by so much BS without losing it.
In the many jobs I've had over the years, I didn't know what religion my workmates were. And they didn't know mine (catholic atheist).
But then again I don't live in America. It is bad manners in the country I live in to talk about religion.
The kicking was odd. Just socially.
6:52 Well that is because most people don't believe in the bible or at least not a literal interpretation. Queer and supporting christians basically say that the book had influence and significance but in the end it matters that you love others and believe in Jesus.
I was suspect of Zach from the beginning. Just thought he was some kind of "cool" youth pastor who skates and wears beanies and has tattoos
Probation from work for being an atheist? I sometimes forget where you are located thats so wrong.
Yep. It’s been an ordeal.
That shocked me!
@@TheSkepTickso much for christian love and tolerance. Sic lisa on them
It's one of the things I'm scared for too, as we occasionally go overseas for work projects (I haven't been on one yet, though)
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I would think that’d be illegal.