It isn’t. But admitting student candidates purely on merit would end up with most of these elite institutions filled with majority Asian and Caucasian students. Whether that end result is desirable or not is probably a matter of perspective.
@@mensrea1251if Asians and Caucasians do better, they should be treated fairly as well. The society can help the other groups you think are less competitive due to "historical reasons" in all the process of their education, instead of just creating intervention in a specific moment which is the moment of the college admission.
“Amicus” brief not “Ameecus”. This brief has been discussed practically every time this case is discussed. You’re the New York Times! Act like you know what you’re talking about!
I think when ethnicity is a key aspect of an applicant’s identity and story, we should definitely share that and connect our ethnicities to who we are. I do not, however, support stating your race just to say your race in the hopes that it benefits you, and this goes for students of color as well as white students in my opinion. As a student who applied to colleges this school year, I definitely shared my ethnicity and involvement in my ethnic community, and I think it showed the schools that have accepted me so far that I offer a fresh perspective and that I value my cultural roots and heritage, not just that I would help them achieve some race quota or make them seem more “diverse” or “inclusive”.
Reframing: race ≠ ethnicity. Nothing about the current landscape says you can't discuss ethnicity. "Black American" is an ethnicity, same as "Trinidadian-American," "Bolivian-American," "Turkish-American," and so on. "White" is not an ethnicity, but "Irish-American" or "Appalachian" or "Cajun" sure are. If we reframe how we imagine Blackness as being an ethnicity, rather than just a race, we can certainly keep talking about it. And part of the experience of such an ethnicity is in fact racialized. If we arrive at talking about this from that angle, there's no argument anymore that anybody is playing the race card-we are now firmly on the territory of lived experience.
As long as race is a factor it’s a racism no matter how you define it.
This is a helpful and informative episode. thank you! My compassion and best wishes for high school students navigating all of this!
Is it really that difficult to judge a person on their abilities, achievements and contributions rather than their racial genetic make-up
It isn’t. But admitting student candidates purely on merit would end up with most of these elite institutions filled with majority Asian and Caucasian students. Whether that end result is desirable or not is probably a matter of perspective.
@@mensrea1251if Asians and Caucasians do better, they should be treated fairly as well. The society can help the other groups you think are less competitive due to "historical reasons" in all the process of their education, instead of just creating intervention in a specific moment which is the moment of the college admission.
“Amicus” brief not “Ameecus”. This brief has been discussed practically every time this case is discussed. You’re the New York Times! Act like you know what you’re talking about!
Jesus Christ, the instructor "helping" the students sounds so dumb.
I think when ethnicity is a key aspect of an applicant’s identity and story, we should definitely share that and connect our ethnicities to who we are. I do not, however, support stating your race just to say your race in the hopes that it benefits you, and this goes for students of color as well as white students in my opinion. As a student who applied to colleges this school year, I definitely shared my ethnicity and involvement in my ethnic community, and I think it showed the schools that have accepted me so far that I offer a fresh perspective and that I value my cultural roots and heritage, not just that I would help them achieve some race quota or make them seem more “diverse” or “inclusive”.
kinda funky to have some stems on the intro song missing. Mainly the drums.
Reframing: race ≠ ethnicity. Nothing about the current landscape says you can't discuss ethnicity. "Black American" is an ethnicity, same as "Trinidadian-American," "Bolivian-American," "Turkish-American," and so on. "White" is not an ethnicity, but "Irish-American" or "Appalachian" or "Cajun" sure are.
If we reframe how we imagine Blackness as being an ethnicity, rather than just a race, we can certainly keep talking about it. And part of the experience of such an ethnicity is in fact racialized. If we arrive at talking about this from that angle, there's no argument anymore that anybody is playing the race card-we are now firmly on the territory of lived experience.
What does this rambling even mean? How can "black American" be an ethnicity, but "white American" cannot?
definitely some good points here, interesting take