Affirmative Action ban's fallout on college admissions

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  • @yepyep6916
    @yepyep6916 2 дні тому +129

    In a sense…one positive outcome is increased enrollment in HBCUs. It can become a reinvestment in the black community. The downside of integration post civil rights era was the loss of black communities, businesses, and culture. Assimilation and integration has actually hurt the black community in many aspects.

    • @solar6120
      @solar6120 2 дні тому +1

      I agreev

    • @kellirai35
      @kellirai35 2 дні тому

      My thoughts exactly. A possibly positive outcome from this upcoming election is the reduction of integration.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 2 дні тому +6

      Desegregation was about not being KI LL ED for being Black & having the nerve to seek opportunity. Stop minimizing the truth behind the sacrifices and the sacrificed

    • @charlee_hotel
      @charlee_hotel День тому +2

      This is such an US-only thing. If so, why other western countries with significant black populations have not lost their communities and cultures?

    • @buicklincoln
      @buicklincoln День тому

      @@charlee_hotel Black people in USA were taught that integration was the only answer and that lead to group thinking of "the white man's ice is always colder."

  • @JadeVuong-vo4uj
    @JadeVuong-vo4uj 2 дні тому +84

    this is really unfair. about legacy admission? why dont they strike that down? there needs to be uproar for legacy admissions!

    • @pastramiking6874
      @pastramiking6874 2 дні тому +11

      They're not illegal. The law says you can't discriminate based on race

    • @derek4412
      @derek4412 2 дні тому +10

      Legacy admissions only exist at some private universities, right? I went to a private university, and I never met anyone who has a legacy. And I don’t think they exist at public universities at all.

    • @adityashimoga432
      @adityashimoga432 2 дні тому +4

      I agree it also should be illegal unfortunately now Donald trump’s puppets in Supreme Court will never let it happen

    • @sdlock83
      @sdlock83 2 дні тому

      Legacy preference admission is already illegal before the ban against affirmative action.

    • @gillmsnfillman1691
      @gillmsnfillman1691 2 дні тому +2

      The system is biased that’s why.
      It was never and has never been about meritocracy, it was about getting black students out.
      The best and brightest of the black community should be going to HBCUs anyway. They were created for a reason.
      I hope DEI is removed there as well.

  • @imo.124
    @imo.124 2 дні тому +60

    If they don't want black students at their school then ok. Go to black schools and build those up. Take your talents to HBCUs. Both black academics and athletes should go to HBCU schools.

    • @Lancelot0311
      @Lancelot0311 День тому

      It’s not that we don’t want black people , we don’t want anyone who didn’t earn the right to be there fairly.

    • @chicken10ize
      @chicken10ize День тому +1

      Lol

    • @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308
      @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308 День тому

      ​@@Lancelot0311ok Pinocchio

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      You are short on facts, Mr. Racist. Most of the blk students admitted were not qualified and flunked out or left after one year and owing 1000's in school loans. This HURT Blk students. Stop being racist, please.

    • @Ambi1021
      @Ambi1021 День тому +1

      Yep, we don't need them. They need us.

  • @briantbmoth6472
    @briantbmoth6472 День тому +39

    Less Asian enrollment too. Hilarious 😂

    • @手笨也得吃饭
      @手笨也得吃饭 День тому

      That because they cheated. If a school is honest, for example MIT, Asian increase significantly

    • @Jdr-fk9oq
      @Jdr-fk9oq 23 години тому

      Yeah cause there is administration bias going on. What is hilarious is how much help you guys need, how is that lower bar?

    • @chooseempathy108
      @chooseempathy108 22 години тому

      @@Jdr-fk9oq Now the Asian students aren’t good enough to be admitted. So, who exactly is need of help, now?

    • @salamander5318
      @salamander5318 19 годин тому

      Asian Enrollment at MIT SKYROCKETED in 2024, LMFAO. Asian Enrollment in California SKYROCKETED after 3 decades of Affirmative Action being banned AND BLACK/HISPANIC ENROLLMENT IS DOWN TO ALMOST ZERO, LMFAO. NAME even 1 Black majority country that creates its own advance technology like Japan, Taiwan, or South Korea?

    • @almamater9346
      @almamater9346 14 годин тому +2

      ​@@Jdr-fk9oqwho's the bar so low for? Because if you think yours is higher, why aren't your collective still getting in like that? 🤔🥴

  • @cd1452
    @cd1452 2 дні тому +60

    I think this is great. I really want my son to go to a HBCU. He goes to a top private school now. I think the black athletes should go to HBCUs..I.went to a state school, but I always wished i had gone to a HBCU. My friends who went to HBCU'S had better college experiences.

    • @TheVivacious01
      @TheVivacious01 2 дні тому +3

      same. Wish I has attended one as well.

    • @starloszelson4541
      @starloszelson4541 День тому

      Morehouse is #1 for black males but get a Navy Marine Scholarship to pay for it

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      And could pass too.

    • @jjackson512
      @jjackson512 День тому +2

      I went to a HBCU and a PWI. I cherish my time at St. Augustine College way more than I did at the PWI I graduated from. I always tell folks if anything go to a HBCU your first 2 years to experience the environment then if you really want to go to a PWI then transfer but it will be hard to leave from a place where your truly nurtured and cared for.

  • @seanbela2847
    @seanbela2847 19 годин тому +7

    It’s so absurd and really about the money. Once the HBCUs have multi-billion dollar endowments they’ll go after them as well!

  • @Phlegethon
    @Phlegethon 2 дні тому +30

    ban legacy too then

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      That is not a factor, racist

  • @philiplam2084
    @philiplam2084 2 дні тому +57

    College admissions is a band-aid on a broken leg. Fix K-12 education in poor neighborhoods and prepare POC better for college...if you do that, diversity in college admissions will take care of itself.

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 2 дні тому

      If i had to wager, 2 things happen,
      1) DEI/AA accetances flunk out because college is too hard and they're not prepared
      2) colleges will bend backwards to pass and retain them allowing them a degree into a workforce they arent ready killing people
      none of those are good

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 2 дні тому

      That doesn't fix it tho. Just think of how many high school grads who matriculate to college don't graduate. There's leaks all across the pipeline

    • @AP-pk6mk
      @AP-pk6mk День тому +4

      School funds are determined by property taxes in the US, you know this. Richer parents taking their kids to private school and charter schools taking in certain people only makes it so that these public schools never improve. Poor kids generally, but especially black kids, are put in these places that are destined to have low passing rates and produce kids who can't read or do math due to "no child left behind". In theory what you're saying is good but who actually campaigns on this and tries to make things equal from the beginning. Then you have legacy and nobody cares about them and how much space they're taking up. The more you realize that certain racial groups were forced into the poor side of an income distribution system, the more you'll see that affirmative action was needed to help things be better.

    • @CensorsTruth
      @CensorsTruth День тому

      They try but the culture these communities practice along with toxicity within them, change is hard to initiate. Lots of folks within these communities have kids illegitimately just to game the welfare system without providing any parental guidance towards raising their children who end up becoming criminals and violent homeless people wandering the society.

    • @philiplam2084
      @philiplam2084 День тому

      @@AP-pk6mk Yep...fix all that, because trying to make up for it at college admissions is way too late...

  • @jeremyrogers6036
    @jeremyrogers6036 2 дні тому +32

    I think as black people we need to attend HBCUs, create our own industries and Businesses and grow and maintain our communities . At this point it’s obvious that the majority in this country do not want us in their spaces .. which is fine . However, if we build our communities back up a SECOND time white people should not go out of their way to tear us down in fear of black people surpassing them . Let us keep our thriving communities & successes and compete on the same playing field and you won’t have to worry about us trying to attend your schools .

    • @jasminebridgett9200
      @jasminebridgett9200 2 дні тому +2

      Amen 🙏

    • @AB-mr9dy
      @AB-mr9dy 2 дні тому +2

      Good luck with that.

    • @chicken10ize
      @chicken10ize День тому +2

      Majority of this country wants you to stop living in the past and stop seeking special treatment. You are owed nothing.

    • @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308
      @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308 День тому

      ​@@chicken10izeWe will stop living in the past when the majority of the country does.

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      13News Now CORRECTION: Anti-White, Anti-Asian's RACISM ban's fallout on college admissions

  • @derek4412
    @derek4412 2 дні тому +48

    This whole segment is missing the point that college is a really oversold idea. Plumbers are making 80k per year snd college graduates are making 34k per year.

    • @Zay4Life
      @Zay4Life 2 дні тому +16

      The trades has its own issues but that’s a different story for a different day

    • @CaraMarie13
      @CaraMarie13 2 дні тому +15

      The trades are great if you can get into a union. Saying so and so trade is making x amount of dollars a year is overlooking a lot. Many of the jobs that have those high salaries are unionized and tend to be from specific trades. Not knocking on the trades but just like college graduates are now realizing some degrees don't pay as much as others, not all trades pay the same.

    • @TheVivacious01
      @TheVivacious01 2 дні тому +4

      you also have to consider someone's career choice. Trade school is great for those who don't wish to pursue a degree

    • @ScottieDrippen
      @ScottieDrippen 2 дні тому +8

      Every plumber isn’t making 80K yearly, that’s a lie that needs to stop being told

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 2 дні тому +4

      while the trades do make more and we need them, we also shouldn't just now wholesale support everyone to go into trades because the tools that the trades use are from industry researchers with university degrees (ie math, science and engineering)

  • @solar6120
    @solar6120 2 дні тому +15

    I think this is probably one of the best things to happen to African Americans. So many black kids are intelligent and strong. A new system is emerging. They can now thrive in these HBCUs. It's a new day.

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      13News Now CORRECTION: Anti-White, Anti-Asian's RACISM ban's fallout on college admissions

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      You are clueless. Blks were being admitted and not qualified. They failed and owed 1000's in school loans. Wyts and Asians had to score 2 to 300 points higher on SATS for admittance. NOW Qualified blks will be admitted.

  • @Ratryggva1090
    @Ratryggva1090 День тому +6

    Given entrance based on merit? Disgusting 😂

  • @gagoomt4076
    @gagoomt4076 20 годин тому +2

    Why is she talking about Blq? Affirmative Action has benefited W women the most and ASN Americans greatly

    • @user-tr1zj
      @user-tr1zj 4 години тому +1

      not really, MIT Asian enrollment is up nearly 20% after affirmative action was struck down

  • @JohnVKaravitis
    @JohnVKaravitis 2 дні тому +15

    You know, if ANYONE really and truly WANTS a college education, they will do what it takes, even if that means a local state or even community college. And besides, most people in college have no business being in college in the first place. Germany does it right: they have different paths after high school, where people can seriously consider trade school. And so on.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 2 дні тому

      🙄😒 State colleges, esp top programs, are part of this too

    • @TomikaKelly
      @TomikaKelly День тому

      You must be one of those people who don't belong in college because your comment offers NOTHING to the topic at hand. 😂🙄

  • @brenandemossita1000
    @brenandemossita1000 2 дні тому +13

    We should go to HBCUs

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      You should get admitted, because you are qualified

    • @biz1boom
      @biz1boom 19 годин тому

      HBCU'S are 🗑

  • @AminaPhilosophy
    @AminaPhilosophy 2 дні тому +7

    You’re not A minority!!!! You’re in the racial minority in America.
    Bring your skills, talents and Intellect to HBCUs.
    Create new IV leagues that are predominately Afri American/ Afri diasporan.

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      Blks were being admitted and not qualified. They failed and owed 1000's in school loans. Wyts and Asians had to score 2 to 300 points higher on SATS for admittance. NOW Qualified blks will be admitted.

  •  2 дні тому +8

    What is going to be fun is when they find out does not impact minority enrollment. How about the drop in male enrollment? That is actually a thing.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 2 дні тому

      Men are not a minority in the patriarchal power structure.

    • @salamander5318
      @salamander5318 День тому

      What is going to be fun is you finding out that Asian, Indian, and Male enrollment at MIT in the Freshmen Class skyrocketed after Affirmative Action was banned.

    • @MyRedmamba
      @MyRedmamba 18 годин тому

      Is it because males are being rejected or are they simply not applying?

  • @Tamara-qd5dc
    @Tamara-qd5dc 2 дні тому +25

    So, these students believe that if they are not given preferential treatment (which is very different from equal treatment guaranteed by federal law), they are not wanted by the university? The only way for the university to make them feel good is to be admitted under affirmative action, which is to be given preferential treatment? Am I missing something here?

    • @JohnSmith-ss5zk
      @JohnSmith-ss5zk 2 дні тому +6

      Yup... All of it

    • @rhd244
      @rhd244 2 дні тому

      You are stupid

    • @LiLzZluvinJ
      @LiLzZluvinJ 2 дні тому +15

      To me, this ruling tells me that people don’t care to learn the struggle it takes for black students to earn an education. Black students are looking for an institution that’s actually going to invest in them and their education. Who actually care about their wellbeing and how they navigate their institution. PWI’s don’t invest in black students the same way a HBCU would, so the black students are going where they’re wanted and people can’t question their education attainment or if they actually belong there…

    • @jeffreyprayer4052
      @jeffreyprayer4052 2 дні тому +12

      Yes you are missing a lot, you are not given anything under affirmative action or DEI. Each candidate is rated based on certain factors with race being one of them. So you still have to have the GPA, extracurricular activities, and good tests scores. They are all equally qualified you just have to consider, not choose, but consider a minority. I’m confused why that is a problem.

    • @Tamara-qd5dc
      @Tamara-qd5dc 2 дні тому +1

      @@jeffreyprayer4052 A Supreme Court affirmative action case showed that an Asian candidate in the eighth highest academic decile had a 5.1% chance of admittance, compared to 7.5% for white, 22.9% for Hispanic, and 44.5% for black applicants. So, given the same GPA and extracurricular activities Malia Obama will have advantage over the white boy from an impoverished mining town in West Virginia. Note that a minority Asian candidate had 1/8th of a chance than a minority Black candidate, a minority Hispanic candidate had 50% chance of a minority Black candidate. That's justice?

  • @Planner38
    @Planner38 2 дні тому +21

    This report is a mixed bag for several reasons. First, there is no mention of the fact that one of the major reasons for the litigation against Harvard was the use of race to limit the admission of Asian students as a means of increasing the enrolment of black students. How does discriminating against one minority group in favour of another minority group promote equality and eliminate racism? As the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court said, "The best way to end discrimination is stop discriminating."
    The importance of race as a determinant of success in a post-Jim Crow US continues to decrease, as evidence by Asian and Indian Americans having the highest per capita incomes of any racial groups. It is important to remember that Asians and Indians only began to immigrate to the US in large numbers after the end of WW II. For many decades, Asians and Indians, like blacks, were discriminated against, as evidenced by immigration quotas, head taxes, and the internment of Japanese Americans during WW II. What Asians and Indians have achieved in only two generations is truly remarkable.
    Second, many of the students indicated that they want systemic factors associated with historic discrimination to be taken into account during the university admissions process, while wanting students to be admitted on the basis of merit and qualification. Often the only way to overcome these so-called systemic factors is by emphasizing race in place of merit. It would be nice of these black students would embrace the fact that as black people they possess merit and that they can succeed and often do better than white people because of their abilities. Reference to race is unnecessary. Constantly referring to race potentially undermines or limits the confidence of black students and retards the development of a color blind society.
    Third, there are going to be prestigious and non-prestigious HBCUs, just as there are going to be prestigious and non-prestigious PWUs. However, it is wrong to suggest that a HBCU is prestigious simply because it is old or is classified as a HBCU. The officials from Hampton University are working too hard to establish that their institution is prestigious, especially when it is a prestigious institution. Hampton has an acceptance rate of 74% and a graduation rate of only 56%, This means that the overwhelming majority of applicants are accepted, but more than four in ten students do not graduate. Thus, if Hampton wants to become more prestigious, it needs to dramatically raise its admission standards and work at reducing the dropout rate. However, becoming more prestigious cold both reduce the number of post-secondary spaces available to black students and ignore the fact that non-prestigious institutions like Hampton play a vital role in the college ecosystem by providing average students a place to earn a degree.

    • @jeffreyprayer4052
      @jeffreyprayer4052 2 дні тому +21

      Affirmative action did not discriminate against Asians. Two judges found there were no discriminatory practices against Asians at Harvard.
      Black people have a long history in this country. On a daily basis, we don’t encounter or even think about Asians. We go about our business, doing what we do in our communities. Why come to america picking a fight with us over lies. You are smart right? Probably think you’re smarter than black people, but you can’t see that the policy wasn’t discriminatory against Asians?
      We only want what we have worked for. Same as Asians. Nothing has ever been given to us here and we understand that. Leave us out of it and stop comparing us. We don’t compare.

    • @dkg_gdk
      @dkg_gdk 2 дні тому

      What a bunch of bs. Indians and asians that go to Ivy League mostly come from wealthy families... anyway, why bother

    • @x-men69-96
      @x-men69-96 2 дні тому

      Only black and lazy complain about this. That’s why

    • @MyishaFord-ib9gt
      @MyishaFord-ib9gt 2 дні тому

      @@jeffreyprayer4052They aren’t going to listen to you. They’d much rather believe lies so that it validates their bigotry.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 2 дні тому +1

      You DO know that Asuan students were being rejected for WHITE students and that Black students were used as a scapegoat⁉️⁉️⁉️ Black student enrollment at Harvard has not surpassed 15%, and maybe less than 4% are Black American, the actual ethnic population that AA was passed for.

  • @AB-mr9dy
    @AB-mr9dy 2 дні тому +6

    Let’s be honest, at the end of the day, college is for that diploma. A degree from Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, aka PWI’s are gold. We need more black alumni from these institutions. Can you imagine living in a country where people could accurately assume every black person went to an HBCU? I think blacks should focus more on why so few of them even get to college. Black people are the minority in the country so it’s a given you will be a minority is almost every institution. That’s ok. Our ancestors didn’t fight for integration, for future generations to just seclude themselves from society.

    • @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308
      @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308 День тому +1

      The value of any college degree varies inversely with the number of degree holders. Right now too many people have degrees making them expensive HS diplomas and this includes Harvard and Yale.

  • @dkg_gdk
    @dkg_gdk 2 дні тому +6

    Certain people have this weird belief that someone who got 93 points in one test is more worthy of being admitted than someone who got 92. Therefore if I admit a black student with a 92 score over a white student with a 93 score then Im stealing something from the white student. As if a 1+ point difference means a person is overall superior than everyone else who got a lower score. Being good at taking standardized tests does not make you a better candidate. Everyone over a certain threshold of GPA or test scores already has merit. People who were able to overcome socio economic hardships and get there are more deserving to be admitted than someone who had it easier from the beginning, that is real merit.

    • @lenaprice6239
      @lenaprice6239 2 дні тому +1

      Latino is not a race.There are plenty of Latinos who are White, and others who are Black, and many who are mixed race or Asian. It's akin to pretending that North Americans of different races and backgrounds are one ethnic/racial group, simply because they are from the same continent and speak English.

    • @chicken10ize
      @chicken10ize День тому

      No the person who worked and studied the hardest deserves to get in. Your background does not matter. It's not weird to give the hardest worker the reward. That's how it works in the real world.

    • @dkg_gdk
      @dkg_gdk День тому

      @@chicken10ize you do realize you're contradicting yourself right?

    • @dkg_gdk
      @dkg_gdk День тому

      @@lenaprice6239 I dont care about that, thats not the point at all, replace latino with black and white for asian and is the same.

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      Blks were being admitted and not qualified. They failed and owed 1000's in school loans. Wyts and Asians had to score 2 to 300 points higher on SATS for admittance. NOW Qualified blks will be admitted.

  • @x-men69-96
    @x-men69-96 2 дні тому +10

    This is fair. Everyone is equal regardless. If you deserve it, you should earn it regardless of your skin color

    • @TSidez
      @TSidez 2 дні тому +6

      But it isn’t equal. College admissions is skewed to benefit students who are well connected or are from wealthy/high income families. As long as this is true, I see no issue with race being factored in admissions.

    • @DimitriMccullum-bg9nz
      @DimitriMccullum-bg9nz 2 дні тому

      Oh please half these people aren't good at anything even if we good at something these white folks act like they pressed so bad 😂

    • @x-men69-96
      @x-men69-96 2 дні тому

      @TSidez tell Obama's kid about it

    • @malachibridges5
      @malachibridges5 День тому

      @@x-men69-96despite their wealth and celebrity, I bet you a million dollars they’d faced some form of discrimination, bias, or racism. Black people with money are still Black and still treated as such. Money is not always visible or immutable, skin color is unfortunately.

  • @rackynjeff
    @rackynjeff 22 години тому +6

    I’m so tired of people looking for racism in everything. you shouldn’t get in because of your skin color. I do understand that some people may not be getting the same resources..a LOT of people arnt getting a proper education from the public schools. we need to make the elementary, middle and high schools better. it needs a lot of work.

    • @theraplawyer
      @theraplawyer 19 годин тому

      You must not be Black. We see it every day.

    • @mikochild2
      @mikochild2 16 годин тому

      They weren't choosing unqualified students... But bitter people want to blame everyone but themselves.
      It's not looking for racism in everything. It's more that your skin can hinder you even when you qualify and over achieve. Even when black people offer more money, our bids on houses can be denied as soon as someone realizes we are black. It’s already proven that people with obvious ethnic names have a reduced chance of call back even with identical resumes. Yes, make school better, but the only way to combat unconscious bias and intentional racism is policy.
      No one was suffering from affirmative action. And it’s everywhere. It's the reason the move away from dei is concerning. I worked with a nonprofit that didn't understand why there were no black attendees. It turned out that they didn't market their event in digital and physical spaces that black people frequent. It never occurred to them to post in spaces according to race. To people against DEI and affirmative action, thinking about that at all is wrong. But not thinking about it meant that only white people knew about these helpful programs for everyone.
      Most people don't think about that until i tell them. But these politicians know. They just have two agendas. Some use it to gain support and power. Others use it because they really are racist. Sometimes both. But it sounds so reasonable to say it should only be based on merit when it's not.
      There are lots of smart and talented people. If you have 100 people who had a 4.0 and high SAT scores, it makes sense to choose from different communities so that every community benefits.
      If the black enrollment reduces to a trickle, it won't be because we aren't smart or qualified, but people will assume that's why even without seeing the grades and applications. Especially when you look at how many of us are even at these schools to begin with. Only like 7-10%. It's not like we were taking over. All of this was over 7-10% of the seats that made such a difference for us but was still a fraction of the overall enrollment. We're 13.6% of the overall US population. But people really think we're so dumb that we don't qualify for 7-10%...

    • @djoldsoulkid3407
      @djoldsoulkid3407 8 годин тому

      Yeah and the ones that don’t get quality education is black students 🤡 so obviously it’s race

  • @MegaDrake25
    @MegaDrake25 День тому +5

    Watch how this change when all the black talent especially athletes stop going

    • @CMarie.
      @CMarie. День тому

      Athletic scholarships won't be affected. They bring too much money into the colleges. Unless we're talking Notre Dame,Duke,Stanford etc these schools don't care about grades when it comes to their student athletes. Sad,but true.

    • @MegaDrake25
      @MegaDrake25 День тому

      @ I know this, but I hoping for a change where their enrollment stops as well.

    • @salamander5318
      @salamander5318 День тому

      Do you even get the irony of you using technology invented by Asian, White, and Indian men to call for discrimination against Asians, Whites, and Indians?

    • @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308
      @imetaboyiusedtoknow8308 День тому

      ​@@CMarie.Athletic scholarships are moot, NILs are the going thing now and any athlete at any school can participate.

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      Blks were being admitted and not qualified. They failed and owed 1000's in school loans. Wyts and Asians had to score 2 to 300 points higher on SATS for admittance. NOW Qualified blks will be admitted.

  • @Peacock2025
    @Peacock2025 8 годин тому

    Are legacy admits constitutional? That’s not a meritocracy. Seems highly hypocritical.

  • @johnd.5601
    @johnd.5601 2 дні тому +2

    I wanted to be an electrician! The reason I am not a good fit is because I don't have fast hands.

  • @wiseeyes81
    @wiseeyes81 День тому

    This is awesome. These students have the potential to get a great education by professors who are Knowledgable, dedicated, and truly care about their success.

  • @Romamsone32
    @Romamsone32 День тому +1

    Rather than Going to A PWI Blacks from America and diaspora living in the Western World could experience the educational benefits that their motherland has to offer them. Africa needs talented intelligent young minds who could help build up the continent while offering them opportunities to marry and grow families in a land where they feel valued.

  • @Jairo-h4c
    @Jairo-h4c День тому +1

    Lol. Nobody is holding them back from admission. They're just not qualified!

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      They will never believe that FACT in 1000 years.

    • @akinatsukana
      @akinatsukana День тому

      Oh but legacy admissions are qualified you racist t*****. Some of the dumbest people were legacy admissions and white. Some white people get jobs simply because they are white and having a diverse office is too stressful for the racists. YOu all are so incompetent that you are dying out and are blaming everyone else for your lack of ability to have children. But it's okay in about 100 years most of you will be gone anyway since you're dying out.

    • @Jairo-h4c
      @Jairo-h4c День тому

      @pep590 yeah some things should have never changed prior to the 1960's...

    • @samarch2189
      @samarch2189 День тому

      One of the missions of HBCUs is to take a marginal student and turn them into a scholar though extensive mentorship, focused academic studies, and the sense of belonging to a community. Something most PWI's (predominantly white institutions) aren't interested in doing.

  • @Impozalla
    @Impozalla День тому +2

    After affirmative action was struck down by the US supreme Court, I have seen a rise in Asian students and a decline of nearly every nationality at my university. Blacks and Hispanics were hit the hardest at my university. We need to bring back affirmative action so universities Will be more diverse.

  • @NycGuy7
    @NycGuy7 День тому +2

    Elite public universities are cheaper than HBCU's and typically have much better graduation rates for Black Students. I turned down Howard University to attend the University of Virginia because it was much cheaper, and my family could not afford to provide me financial assistance in college. It's best to have options. Black students are disproportionately burdened by student loan debt and decreased enrollment at public [cheaper] universities will worsen this disparity.

    • @yepyep6916
      @yepyep6916 13 годин тому +1

      @@NycGuy7 Howard is a private HBCU. Private schools typically cost more whether HBCU or not. Most HBCUs are state public schools

    • @NycGuy7
      @NycGuy7 12 годин тому +2

      @yepyep6916 The ratio of public to private HBCU is more like 50/50. Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of HBCU's are in the South. Black students from the North, Midwest and West Coast have no public, in state tuition, HBCU option. Every state has a public flagship university, which economically is the best option, particularly for poor students. The Black community is more burdened by student loan debt compared to other groups. Elite public universities also have much better 5 year graduation rates than HBCU's. HBCU''s are a great option for some students, however, other Black students fare better at public universities for the aforementioned reasons. Options are best. Not being relegated to HBCU's.

    • @yepyep6916
      @yepyep6916 11 годин тому

      @@NycGuy7 …Agreed, I hold degrees from both types of institutions and can see the pros and cons of both. Didn’t know the ratio was 50-50 HBCU private/public ratio. However, enrollment rates are significantly higher at public HBCUs, 77%vs 23%. There is no one size fits all solution. It’s tough to reduce costs because most are economically funneled to the school systems where they reside. Southerners that attend public in-state HBCUs tend to pay less overall than their northern counterparts since the overall cost of living is less. With respect to African American student loan debt, I would recommend other career options such a as trade schools and starting at community college. if you are not STEM, medical, or seeking a degree in a low-paying/low-demand career field I would question the value of attending a 4-year university. Things are a lot different since I graduated.

  • @billlee8670
    @billlee8670 День тому +1

    But those black students in those elite schools will gain higher respect because people will think they are the true high achievers.

  • @KN-eh2fh
    @KN-eh2fh 2 дні тому +19

    Do you see any Asian in the track and field? Do you hear them complain about it?

    • @aliseb.9640
      @aliseb.9640 2 дні тому +11

      But they are, maybe not in this news segment, I have seen the videos.

    • @smallcapwarrior
      @smallcapwarrior 2 дні тому +12

      They definitely are. I get why poor whites(include middle class in this) i can see how it seems unfair. Apparently we've always had this dynamic amongst us. To me it's a class thing. Poor whites and blacks once had a different time relationship until elites pit us against each other.

    • @mrjay6483
      @mrjay6483 2 дні тому

      These universities segregated and excluded Blacks for centuries

    • @chinaarlene7035
      @chinaarlene7035 2 дні тому

      ​@@smallcapwarrior you mean poor whites were pitted against black people.

    • @solar6120
      @solar6120 2 дні тому

      No worries. Very soon, many black athletes won't be in PWIs. The white folks can have it all. The world is open now. Many black kids are in China now. In some places, China is enrolling black kids and training them from a young age. Very soon, the wins black folks gave the United States will belong to China.

  • @Aaron55721
    @Aaron55721 2 дні тому +11

    How about give better admission to first generation college student instead?

    • @x-men69-96
      @x-men69-96 2 дні тому +12

      how about giving no preferential treatment to anyone? Everyone is equal regardless

    • @Asseataaa
      @Asseataaa 2 дні тому

      Too extreme. Youre gay.​@x-men69-96

    • @charlee_hotel
      @charlee_hotel День тому +1

      Why?

    • @Aaron55721
      @Aaron55721 День тому

      @@x-men69-96 fine by me. Tell that to the lady insisting on first gen.

    • @chicken10ize
      @chicken10ize День тому

      How about no. My mom's education level should not matter to a school I'm applying to.

  • @Costalwaters
    @Costalwaters 8 годин тому

    No one thinks that education is out of reach for every young person? I’m black and feel like using the affirmative action excuse for college drop off is insane when there’s no money for school and the govt lets schools charge their own prices

  • @tonismith1024
    @tonismith1024 2 дні тому +1

    she is saying, fairness is not ok

  • @RandomCaliforniaAdventure
    @RandomCaliforniaAdventure 2 дні тому +4

    Just Googled HBCU Hampton...their overall graduation rate is about 57% with their 6 year graduation rate is at 60% while their 4 year graduation rate is at 41%. Fun fact the following HBCU has a graduation rate of 35% or below!! Xavier University of Louisiana, Delaware State University, Dillard University, Lincoln University and the worst performing one at 28% is Clark Atlanta University. Its ironic enough that these students complains about PWI students as if they are the problem. Why didn't their parents take the efforts to ensure their children attended black only public school when they were young. I certain they would be able to experience more of the "blackness" that many seem to be complain about that is missing at the college level. Plenty of inner city that are black focus and I assume they are thriving because the community, the family is all about black excellences. Forget about the graduation rate...those are probably "racist" statistic skewed to project hate....lol. Now now, I am other non-POC do just as bad but that isn't the focus here. The focus here is that overall, POC are complaining about not being entitled to attend a university at which their ability to perform just do not match! That's not to say a person will not do well if they attended their third or fourth option. In the end, an individuals determination to do well in life will do well in life. Its unfortunate that with affirmative action taken out, now DEI is being is being implemented in its place. Its like, not qualifying for the school of your choice doesn't mean you won't get the job of your choice...lol.

    • @TruthDefined4life
      @TruthDefined4life 2 дні тому +1

      All of this racist rhetoric, and your writing skills are simply PATHETIC! It looks like YOU need to find someone's English class and attend.

    • @LloydTanna
      @LloydTanna 2 дні тому +1

      You sound like one of those.........Nevermind

    • @malachibridges5
      @malachibridges5 2 дні тому +3

      Funny how you left out Howard, Spellman, and Morehouse. Some of the TOP HBCU’s but focused on the lesser known and renowned ones to prove a point whilst claim the docu was “bias.”
      Let me add some context for you. Black men have the lowest six year retention at 44% while Black women are at 61%. That means if a school enrolls mostly persons from these groups they’d have a graduation rate that skews lower in comparison to PWIs that hardly enroll Black students.
      And to combat your logic, White men have an average of a 64% six year graduation rate, while White women have a 67%. Are you saying White men in comparison to White women don’t deserve to be admitted b/c of their inability to meet academic rigor? Someone’s ability to graduate on time or at all can stem from many different things, like life events that call for students to withdraw. It’s not always or mostly academic related.

    • @samarch2189
      @samarch2189 День тому

      @@malachibridges5 The reason HBCU's have a lower graduation rate is because one of the missions of an HBCU is to take a marginal student and turn them into a scholar. (Something few PWIs will do) That involves admitting virtually everyone regardless of past academic record. As a result the graduation rate will be lower.
      Many Black people don't have educated parents to mentor them at home and they attend inferior public secondary schools that don't teach well. As a result many are unprepared when finishing high school. HBCUs reach out to students, stand in the gap, and build them up to where they need to be--- Because it take a village!
      I am a proud graduate of Xavier University of Louisiana. I had a 2.4 GPA in high school, and no other reputable institution would grant me full admittance. Xavier took me in and though mentorship, focused academic studies, and belonging to a caring community, they turned me into a scholar. Today I have a Masters degree and am a professional in society.
      I stand fully behind and on the shoulders of my HBCU education!

  • @MysticMylo
    @MysticMylo 2 дні тому +2

    Future leaders. lol. You guys ruined our future from 2010-2012

  • @TomikaKelly
    @TomikaKelly День тому +2

    Take your intelligence and athleticism to HBCUs and continue to build our own community. 💯✊🏿

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      Blks were being admitted and not qualified. They failed and owed 1000's in school loans. Wyts and Asians had to score 2 to 300 points higher on SATS for admittance. NOW Qualified blks will be admitted.

  • @grayscar05
    @grayscar05 2 дні тому +9

    Affirmative action has been around long enough so I feel a fair atonement has been made for the historic discrimination against African Americans. Also statistically affirmative action has not really improved the financial and social standing of Blacks. I feel ending it can have a positive effect and make Black students work harder to meet the standards necessary and not rely simply on their race to get into these top schools.

    • @Harlem1mentality
      @Harlem1mentality 2 дні тому +13

      African American students have always met the standards to apply to the school. So to say they didn’t meet the standard requirement is factually incorrect. In order to apply they have to meet certain criteria.

    • @jamieson88
      @jamieson88 2 дні тому +8

      Rely on race to get in?? Are you insane? Race was considered because it was considered to exclude people previously. 50 years vs 350 years of exclusion? You’re mad.

    • @grayscar05
      @grayscar05 2 дні тому

      @jamieson88 something is better than nothing. Clearly you don't understand how the real world works

    • @chinaarlene7035
      @chinaarlene7035 2 дні тому

      ​@@grayscar05 no, YOU don't know how the real world works. You're burying your hand in the sand when it comes to the truth on this topic because you're a r a c i s t.

    • @malachibridges5
      @malachibridges5 2 дні тому +1

      @@grayscar05the biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action are White Women according to Colombia University. White women as well faced discrimination accessing education. But now they outpace men in higher education. So AA did have the result it intended. Are those White Women undeserving as well or just the Black ppl you assumed benefited?

  • @strongmermaid4651
    @strongmermaid4651 2 дні тому +2

    In CA stem colleges are forced to lower math standards bc the blk students could not compete.
    Also blk student's are 💯 demanding segregation at PWI! Its a loose loose situation!

    • @ImmigrantB1
      @ImmigrantB1 2 дні тому +1

      Lies

    • @strongmermaid4651
      @strongmermaid4651 2 дні тому

      @ImmigrantB1 🤣🤣🤣🤣 no it's not just look it up🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @strongmermaid4651
      @strongmermaid4651 2 дні тому

      @ImmigrantB1 also blk ppl as a whole want to go back to segregation again look that up also

    • @JJN631
      @JJN631 2 дні тому

      Where did you get that information from

    • @strongmermaid4651
      @strongmermaid4651 2 дні тому

      @JJN631 it was on nbc la 3 days ago

  • @RenneaAvery-graham
    @RenneaAvery-graham 2 дні тому +1

    Dei ppl , dont have 2 go 2 these COLLEGES 4 an education. A lot of HBCU will give u a good education. Morehouse has educated some of the best minds.

  • @TruthDefined4life
    @TruthDefined4life 2 дні тому +1

    They're not CHOOSING to go. They HAVE to go. Affirmative action also kept enrollment discrimination at bay.

    • @sdlock83
      @sdlock83 2 дні тому +1

      It's not discrimination to not admit students who don't meet the OBJECTIVE requirements such as GPA, leadership, community involvement, etc. To support affirmative action is to assert the blacks are innately incapable of achievement on their own.

    • @TruthDefined4life
      @TruthDefined4life 2 дні тому +5

      @sdlock83 Actually, the intent of affirmative action was to STOP the inherent discrimination of the time where LESS qualified european americans were provided opportunities over MORE qualified Blacks.

    • @sdlock83
      @sdlock83 2 дні тому

      @@TruthDefined4life Incorrect. I don't know where you're getting that information from. Every non-stupid people know that affirmative action was designed to "level the playing field" on behalf of blacks due to past discriminations. However, it has done nothing except patronizing and insult the intelligence and abilities of African-Americans, insinuating that they are pathetic creatures that simply are incapable of achieving anything by means of their own abilities and hard work without help. Affirmative action is inherently racist AGAINST blacks.

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      @@TruthDefined4life Blks were being admitted and not qualified. They failed and owed 1000's in school loans. Wyts and Asians had to score 2 to 300 points higher on SATS for admittance. NOW Qualified blks will be admitted.

  • @Lana2cute4u
    @Lana2cute4u 2 дні тому +1

    This is really bad reporting

  • @davidmiller11723
    @davidmiller11723 2 дні тому +2

    Not surprised that these 3 black students are not doing STEM. Philosophy, photography, and a track athlete……yea good luck.

    • @ATVallthingsviral
      @ATVallthingsviral 2 дні тому +8

      My sister ran track at unc chapel hill too and went on to complete dental and orthodontist school at unc. She’s black. My younger brother went to Davidson and has a degree in mathematics. He played soccer there as well and has a master degree and is an engineer

    • @westafricxnflora
      @westafricxnflora 2 дні тому

      My brother and I are both African and have Engineering and Computer Science degrees... don't make blanket statements based on these 3 students because you want to perpetuate the belief that people of color are unable to achieve in S.T.E.M. I'm sure they're getting rid of affirmative action because they realize minorities are proving them wrong.. earning degrees to become doctors, engineers,etc while it was meant to be only something a certain people could achieve 😒

    • @westafricxnflora
      @westafricxnflora 2 дні тому

      America will look very different in some years... fear and resentment is the driving force behind these changes.. no matter, minorities will continue to push upwards 🤠

    • @disdoncable
      @disdoncable 2 дні тому +1

      @ATVallthingsviral Good for your sister and brother. This commenter is talking about those specific individuals in the video - a philosophy and photography major respectively have a one-way ticket to a life time of serving fries are McDonalds. What part of that are you disputing?

    • @leonardoorellano6652
      @leonardoorellano6652 2 дні тому +3

      @@disdoncable what a travesty that those very opinion exits in this country. I am raised in sweden (although of argentine origin)..In sweden you can't study higher level mathematics without studying philosophy... in fact mathematics is an axiomatic system and is therefore a philosophical system not very different from spinoza's ethics. Math without a philosophics grounding is like being hugh hefner and not having viagra...

  • @bobblewinchester5310
    @bobblewinchester5310 9 годин тому

  • @RonnieMyers777
    @RonnieMyers777 2 дні тому

    Good luck to 🙎🏼 & 🌈
    🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @pep590
      @pep590 День тому

      Blks were being admitted and not qualified. They failed and owed 1000's in school loans. Wyts and Asians had to score 2 to 300 points higher on SATS for admittance. NOW Qualified blks will be admitted.

  • @dova-oj1kt
    @dova-oj1kt 2 дні тому +7

    Good. Freeloading is over. Enough with whining.

    • @housepianist
      @housepianist 2 дні тому

      Good for you because you can go back to not allowing people of color in college. Your privilege of being a racist is intact.
      How does it feel? Pretty good, right? 🙄

    • @skella2k209
      @skella2k209 2 дні тому +9

      Bro what? 😂

    • @strongmermaid4651
      @strongmermaid4651 2 дні тому

      ​@@housepianiststop saying poc, Asians, Latinos, Indians don't fit in your group. Also blk students don't have to score as high on Test as everyone else

    • @chinaarlene7035
      @chinaarlene7035 2 дні тому +4

      ​@@skella2k209 hes from Venezuela, don't worry.

    • @theamerican_insider
      @theamerican_insider 2 дні тому +4

      U know nothing about Americas history on the African American population