Could Hakari Win a Domain Clash Against Sukuna? | Jujutsu Kaisen
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No one can win a domain clashes against Sukuna, his domain attacks form everywhere and has no barrier only gojo could do it by attacking him and shrinking his barrier but that’s not rlly a clash it’s more like a brawl
The whole point of this is if sukuna used a closed-barrier domain.
When you say refinement of domain what do you actually mean by that like what makes a domain more refined than the others?
@@u5ag1. I'm not good at explaining this, but I can give an analogy. Let's just say that in a video game you have a skill tree for an ability you just learned. Unrefined would be 0 upgrades, and refined would be upgraded (max in sukuna's case), so that it is more efficient, lower cooldowns, less energy per use, etc. TL:DR, if it is more refined it means that it has been improved to be better.
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@@user-uh6gl6hb1s hard to debunk but I do get the message fasho thanks buddy💪🏿💪🏿
You are overthinking it. Sukuna would just let Hakari do his domain, just to prove he can kill an “invincible” foe.
Fr, sukuna never really uses DE untill he has no options left.
@@suryanshbiswasdamn that womb curse really scared made sukuna have no options left 😱
You right
@@buttbutterson5326I think it was just sukuna flexing to the curse as he said himself he wanted to show the pinnacle of jujutsu, also I think the curse was using an incomplete domain expansion so that’s probably another factor
@@YM-cb5yd or it was like a warm up after thousand years spended in fingers
"For the next 4 minutes and 11 seconds, Hakari is subject to an endless purgatory of cuts and slashes. Meanwhile, Sukuna munches on some popcorn."
People have seen what mahoraga went through and honestly think sukuna won't wipe hakari, he won't regenerate without his head
@superjerick9669 Gojo survived Malevolent Shrine, and Hakari is confirmed to have even better RCT than both Gojo and Sukuna when in Jackpot. It's safe to say Hakari is effectively immortal in those 4 mins and 11 seconds
@@Wincest346could the tank a world dismantle on the head? Or better, any cuts on the head?
@@hayden2638 The video is on Domains. My comment was on domains. Obviously, the World-Cutting Slash is an exception, but Malevolent Shrine is not.
@@Wincest346 it was a genuine question
This is definitely part of the reason why Hakari has been off on a side-mission, Jackpot vs Malevolent Shrine is gonna be absolutely beautiful
That’s what I’m saying man, there’s a reason why it is stated that Hakari RCT in jackpot exceeds both Gojo and Sukuna, he’s going to walk through Malevolent Shrine like Mahoraga in the anime lol. Invest in Hakari stocks now while it’s low rn, it’s gonna paid off soon.
@@coconut7490 Yuji shits on hikari with out de tho pre awakening, post awakening probably dog walks him with his de
@@gimmepenalty this the type of brainrot i'm here for 🔥
@@gimmepenalty Well yeah cuz Hakari’s a domain merchant, his CT is the domain, take away that and he’s a worse punch kick merchant than Yuji. Also let’s not get too ahead man, Yuji DE? We don’t even know what he unlocked with his awakening.
@@coconut7490 nah I’m talking Yuji post awakening probably fucks the shit outta hakari de at the very least Yuji would be top 5 in the verse after awakening cuz awakenings aren’t linear
Can we just have this man do like 5 hour yap compilations?? He's actually a professional yapper who makes every single piece of information super interesting
while yes, sukuna would most likely win in a normal domain clash, I can see him letting hakari get a jackpot just because he wants to see how strong the auto rct actually is
Sukuna wouldn’t “most likely win” he just flat out does
@@runningoutofnames3CSSukuna gon be like do you bleed
@gimmepenalty damn.. "do you bleed?" 😈
Mahito’s activation wasn’t 0.2 seconds, that’s how long it lasted. His domain is unquantifiably fast, and Hakari’s is faster
I think Sukuna would let hikari hit the jackpot to see if the infinite CE, would allow him to survive Malevolent Shrine
Just waiting for Hakari to dance on Sukuna's shrine
You're too underrated bro. Keep this up.
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Hey @MangnimistYT, how do you think they story would play out if Gojo had sent Yuji to Africa to train with Miguel & Yuta. Awesome videos btw!!
The answer is very simple. Sukuna's DE and Gojo's DE were initially evenly matched. Now, try to think about this. If Gojo's DE and Hakari's DE were to clash, who's DE would win? Gojo's DE, right? Which was nearly refined as Sukuna's DE. Given this info, do you still think Hakari's DE would win against Sukuna's DE? It is a very simple understanding.
The thing with sukuna that adds another layer of it too is his domains range. Even if you ignore that sukuna’s refinement is obviously better than hakari’s, his domain’s range will break hakari’s from the outside
1. There is no objective difference between an open domain and a closed one, other than specific buff gained by allowing an escape route, in sukuna's case it was range. The thing is that to be able to cast a domain without an enclosing barrier it is required an unbeliveble amount of skill and refinement, so a sorcerer with an open domain has, by default, a strong domain. But sukuna's closed domain would be just as strong.
2. Even though a fast activation of a sure hit is an indicator of skill, it is probably only relevant to domains with instant win conditions, like mahito's and gojo's. Hakari having an instant sure hit wouldn't help him very much against sukuna.
3. Hakari's domain is strong in clashes, but not invincible by any means. Considering the level of sukuna's mastery over jujutsu he would probably be able to override hakari's domain with no much greater difficulty than gojo had with jogo (maybe hakari could be a bit more annoying).
4. Since hakari's domain has a sure hit and needs a target (That can be assumed since he never opened a domain alone before a fight), it probably can be countered by a strong simple domain or hollow wicker basket user (like sukuna) and would likely have the rounds paused for as long as the anti-domain is held.
5. An open domain is still a system of barriers, it just doesn't have an enclosing one. This means if hakari is somehow able to hold off sukuna's sure hit in a closed domain, he would probably be able to do it to an open domain also.
from what i remember, in the 3 domain clash, there wasn't even the chance to see who's domain was more refined cause having 3 domains clash made the barrier so unstable it just broke down on itself
I dunno if the author did this intentionally, but the 3-body problem would probably make it next to impossible for 3 domains to coexist
Sukuna after hakari hits his 37th jackpot in a row
Manganimist tends to say “nuance” a lot in his videos😂
Fire arrow headshot gg
Saw how short the vid was and knew Sukuna, lord the head cannon you would have to do for him to win 😂
I think that clashing domains in this case would be a negation of the sure hit effect of the weaker domain. So I think it would make Hakari's sure-hit not happen. But the rest of Hakari's domain seems more like a process that would still happen within Sukuna's expanded domain. Cause it's more of an intangible thing, it's not like the pachinko machines themselves provide the jackpot. And if it cancels Hakari's sure-hit, it could throw off Sukuna for a minute which would be interesting
about your video on the sukunas ct, why yutas copied the dismantle and cleave tecnique and not the shrine?
The shrine is part of sukuna’s domain, and domains can’t be copied since it’s innate. Everyone has their own innate domain, but you could still copy the ct itself if you’re yuta
There must be limitation on how much he can copy.
Why didnt Mahito add 2 more arms at the back? That way, when he knows someone will attack him from behind, he can use those arms to transfigure them
Also another ques, does Mahito have the highest potential in JJK? Think about it, he could add 6 arms, 10 mouths to chant constantly to maintain an even flow of cursed energy and enhance his idle transfiguration even more, use binding vows to refine his domain quickly
I definitely think he could. He was doing that before awakening but he was fighting Yuji so he wasn't focused on idle transfiguration anyway. He was probably just going for the most solid defense he could get.
I think mahito didn't add more arms because this would extrapolate the conditions for his cursed technique, it would be like if todo could tap his feet on the ground and activate boogie woogie, idle transfiguration works and it is so strong only because it is limited to the palm of mahito's hands
Mahito did create hands in his mouth to perform the hand signs for his Domain Expansion
@@faisonx they most probably couldn't perform idle transfiguration and it was just a way to "bypass" hand signs
If I remember correctly it's said that to use idle transfiguration, the hand needs to be unaltered ( I couldn't find where exactly it's said so maybe I'm wrong). I would imagine making an entirely new hand would be considered "altered"
How does it work with Gojo's domain that it attacks the brain and not externally because as a CT he only uses space-changing techniques, does he already has a Binding Vow which deactivates techniques in the domain but has a stronger effect of its own?
thats just the nature of his domain's sure hit ct. Once he traps you in a.domain the sure hit happens immediately, and the sure hit is overloading your brain with info. That's why he has the most lethal sure hit cuz it's something you cant counter or tank
@@farsous10 but why didn't He use Blue in his Domain, thats his ct or? Because there is only the Domains Effekt and no ct imbued
@@frozencrystel2237 gojo’s domain’s ct, or in other words the domain’s sure hit is the immediate overload of info into the brain that paralyzes people. That’s why his domain is so strong, the moment you’re in your domain you’re paralyzed, and if you’re a non sorcerer then you’ll get killed cuz they can’t withstand the domains ct, that’s why in shibuya gojo only turned on his domain for 0.2 seconds cuz any longer it would’ve killed them
When you say refinement of domain what do you actually mean by that like what makes a domain more refined than the others?
Theres different factors. like amount of ce for example. But the most important one but also the most vague one is basically how much mastery you have over jujutsu, your ct and your domain.
Think of it like this, imagine all sorcerers are painters, and imagine the sorcerers that know how to use a domain are elite painters, like some of the best in the world. When trying to open a barrier, you're basically taking your innate domain and expanding it into reality, so you're pretty much creating an entire new space from scratch. So imagine you have an image in your head you want to draw or paint, and once you finish it, it looks nothing like what you pictured in your head, that means you have a less refined domain. But someone like van Gough or Leo da Vinci would be able to perfectly take the image in their head and bring it to life through their painting or drawing because they're just that skilled, in this case imagine these two as gojo and sukuna, the absolute best artists, the absoloute best sorcerers with the most refined domains. They have so much skill, knowledge and mastery over their craft, aka jujutsu, that when they're trying to envision opening their domains and trying to perfect it, they're able to do that. So the more the painting looks like what you pictured in your head the more refined it is. I got this analogy from reddit but it's how I make sense of it with real life examples. Hope this helps
@@farsous10 much more understandable
on thing is for sure. if you have two domains open, the sure hit effect from the domain would be stopped. This happen with dagon and happen with gojo vs sukuna.so it is safe to assume that if sukuna can react to hakari domain expansion and open his own domain both sure hit effects would be canceled, with that sukuna would not know what hakari domain does. inside the domain battle would be if hakari can get a jackpot before sukuna kill him with i think this is a hard no, sukuna would demolish hakari, but i think he would probably just let hakari get ga jakpot and kill him after the jackpot ended.
What you're talking about is only if the domains refinement are equal which in this case is most likely sukuna domain is more refined than hakari
@@benedictnwoguji7005 yes. i was just talking about this case to show that even if hakari could get his jackpot he would still lose.
Also important to mention that regardless of the clash happening or not, hakari’s domain is gonna break cuz sukuna’s slashes will break it from the outside
I got some fight question Toji vs higaruma, mahito vs kashimo and yorozu vs yuki
Easy win for Toji since Higaruma’s domain expansion won’t recognize Toji. Mahito vs Kashimo is a tough one, Kashimo too fast for Mahito to touch, but also won’t be able to kill Mahito since he can’t hurt mahuto’s soul. Unless he has an attack that is huge enough to completely destroy all of mahito,s body. If not, they fight for a long time and Mahito eventually wins after Kashimo gets tired.
Yorozu is likely stronger than Yuki based on how well she did against Sukuna.
But what happens against a normal user? Hakari and uraume are fighting, and I doubt uraume doesn't have a domain expansion (but until now, it is nowhere to be seen). And he gets like, infinity energy, so I don't think someone can break his besides sukuna (and maybe gojo)
basiclly if they clashed Hakari will open first due to being faster but when sukana try to open it again it would oblirate hakari's just like Gojo vs Jogo
so hakari will win it at first but then sukuna completly destroyed it with or without the domain ( really doesn't matter )
I read the title and my mind automatically says "Bulls***" (spoken as master Roshi in DBZ A). Was so immediate that it made me feel I had to share it.
Malevolent Shrine will just overwhelmes Hakari's domain just like how UV canceled CIM.
There's some nuance to this answer. The narration for Hakari's Domain establishes that his Domain is strong in Tug-of-wars. This doesn't mean Hakari can win ANY clash but it could even the playing field against superior Domains. With Dagon vs Megumi, this was a clash of Complete vs Incomplete Domain and yet Dagon's Sure-Hit was still overidden. So we know that the gap of refinement/strength difference in Tug-of-wars has to be vast. All this to say, there's a decent possibility Hakari's Domain could hold out against a Closed version of Malevolent Shrine. Different story ofc if Sukuna opens the barrier.
i t gets me so mad how i was the only one that yuji accidentally used dismantle in 251, he’s about to unlock the ability to fully utilize blood manipulation and dismantle/shrine
Hakari needs an open barrier domain to clash
I don’t agree with the video. It’s even worse for Hakari. Shrine is essentially always a sure hit, even during a clash, because the slashes r omnipresent. Gojo was fine because of infinity. But if u don’t have a way to block the slashes, which Hakari doesn’t, he would just get hit by shrine just the same. Which even if they’re equal stats so Hakari doesn’t die in one second, he would still be wounded and Hakari would be forced to drop his domain. With the Dagon Megumi example, Megumi was shielded from the domains attacks by Nanami. Hakari is still getting hit by omnipresent slashes, and he doesn’t even have rct to “tank” the slashes like Gojo did, since the domain is what gets him to the rct, he never has rct inside the domain
Hakari's domain is particularly strong in a tug of war between domains, the question is whether this even applies to sukunas domain, and if it does apply, then what are the criteria?
i.e Does Hakari's domain need to encase the shrine to win the "refinement" battle? or does it need to catch both Sukuna and the shrine?
it wouldn't matter against sukuna's cuz his domain has a wide range so it will break hakari's domain from the outside, just like it did with gojo during their first domain clash
I think hakari can do something like expand his domain then switch it's coordinates after sukuna expands his own.
Lol at switch it’s coordinates. If he switches his coordinates everything in the domain will be moved as well including Sukuna. So doesn’t matter which cordinates he switches to, Sukuna and his domain expansion will be there to break it,
People forget Uraume saying Hakari’s RCT is even faster than Sukuna and Gojo’s
Hakari could just move the domain before sukuna's domain destroys his, like how he move it to the water to deal with kashimo
I actually think Hakari would win, just because his domain is not a regular one, it's literally part of his technique, it doesn't have "refinement", Hakari just kind of knew how to use it as soon as he learned to use his technique. I imagine it working the same way Hakari's infinite CE RCT works, like ordinarly he's not skilled enough to do RCT (=win a domain clash against Sukuna) but since he has infinite CE (=since the domain is part of the Technique) it just kind of happens automatically.
All of that applies to Higuruma too, I think his and Hakari's domains are infinetely refined if you will, not because they're so good but because the cursed technique does it for them.
He wouldn’t have infinite ce right off the bat, he would get it if he gets jackpot. But for him to get jackpot, it would need sukuna not opening his own domain. Cuz if sukuna opens his then it’ll just break hakari’s apart
@@farsous10 I don't literally mean he'll win the domain clash because of infinite CE, it was just an analogy --> if infinite CE = Perfect RCT then Domain as part of the technique = Perfect Domain
uh huh so we're just gonna ignore the fact that sukuna's domain can win against any domain because of the open barrier?
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I had a thought about domain clashes before and hopefully this is the right place to hear some spitballing about the matter.
So like Gojo said "The more refined one wins" and at least in the anime (I dont recall this early on the manga at the moment) he goes on to say "Cursed energy amounts plays a factor too". To me this sorta implies that the "refinement" he speaks of isn't simply a matter of who's stronger but that something about the nature of how its "programed" is whats actually clashing when the barriers meet.
So following that logic I think the next thing that we can say with reasonable certainty is that, THAT is the reason new shadow style simple domain works so well and consistently. During the Kusakabe vs sukana chapter we hear the phrase "a simple domain is still a domain" and though this sounds obvious Im assuming that it means literally or more specifically that the barriers that make up the contour of a simple domain are the same type that hold a domain expansion together.
Now I bring this up because it makes sense that a "simple" domain would be able to hold a space against ANY domain if refinement is based on how "simple" the programming of the domain itself actually is.
TL;DR "Refinement" and "simplicity" are kind of nebulous concepts but one thing I feel like might be the case is that what is meant by "The more refined domain wins in a clash" is that whoever has the "simpler" domain will win the tug of war. Having a lot of cursed energy to pour in might allow one to basically force a victory despite these conditions.
AS FOR THE QUESTION IN THE VIDEO. I think if you subscribe to the logic above then you could argue the mechanism behind Hikari's is "simpler" than Sukuna's.
If we were talking about a conputer "program" a slot machine seems like a much easier coding dilema than some sort of sorting algorithm that searches the coordinates of every cursed energy having entity in the vacinity and every other and then selectively targets dismantle at one and cleave at the other. Sukunas is far more "complex" computationally at least in my opinion.
One could argue that gojos is pretty simple too in the sense that it simply feeds "infinite" information infinitely. Its like a while statement that says "while the DE is open output infinity" with no end condition. One line in some languages.
Just a crackpipe ass thought. Please feel free to pick it apart, like I said I'm just interested in hearing whatever else people think about the matter.
theres a lot of factors that can play apart and honestly it's almost impossible to know who wins a domain clashes between certain characters unless it's obvious ones or ones that we've already seen happen. What we do know is that how much mastery someone has over their ct and domain plays a huge part, so someone like sukuna and gojo would have the best domains for obvious reasons. Amount of ce as well, so yuta comes into play, not saying that he doesnt have mastery over his domain but I feel like his ce reserves is a big factor as well. But something that I just realized recently and I completely forgot about and you mentioned it too, is that domains with non lethal domains are technically more refined than others. Hakari mentioned during his fight with kashimo that in exchange of his domain having a non lethal sure hit, it gives him easier access to activate the domain faster, which is why he had the fastest domain activation speed at the time until gojo broke that speed vs sukuna. And another benefit it adds is that with having a non lethal domain it gives added strength in a domain clash. With that knowledge I'm curious what the strongest domain hakari could win against with his non lethal sure hit domain, because even tho it says it gives added strength to a domain clash, there has to be a limit since there would be some that are just too overpowered for hakari's domain to win a domain clash against, like gojo or sukuna's. So I'm curious with the other powerful domains we've seen like yuta, mahito, curse Nagoya, kenjaku, which one of those domains would hakari be able to beat.
what i wanna know is if kenjaku and tengen can beat gojo and sukuna in domain clashes since it has been stated that kenjaku and tengen have the best barrier techniques, does this mean that kenjaku who has an open domain with possibly the best barrier technique automatically wins in clashes against gojo and sukuna respectively?
They have the best knowledge and application of barriers. But domain isn’t the only barrier, there’s veils too. Everything about barriers and its applications and how they work and how to make them stronger, tengen and kenjaku are the best at, especially tengen since he constantly has barriers turned on around Japan for centuries to optimize ce. But domains specifically is expanding your own innate domain and adding your technique to it as a sure hit. Gojo and sukuna have op techniques and the best battle iq and the best ce reserves and efficiency, so tengen and kenjaku wouldn’t be able to beat them in a domain battle. Kenjaku didn’t even try fighting gojo even tho he’s a master barrier specialist cuz he knows he’ll lose since the power difference is too big
If they think they can win, they would've done that already.
If Hakari sure-hit landed first it maybe able to break Sukuna's concentration idk
Hakari’s sure hit is informing the opponent on how his domain works, but the process still has to be finished regarding the whole love train thing so that hakari wins jackpot. During that process sukuna can pull out his and just break apart hakari’s domain
With enough gambling power addiction, Hakari could very well beat Sukuna.
Because I know for a fact that the king of curses might also get addicted to gambling and lose all his money, making him financially weak so everyone can attack him at his lowest
The question should be whether the narration was right, that non-lethal domains win a tug of war.
If the narration is right, then Hakari's Domain should disable Sukuna's likely before Sukuna's can break it from the outside
It’s the other way around, lethal domains are more refined cuz they’re a lot harder to pull off
I'd argue that in terms of refinement, Hakari is up there with Gojo and Sukuna. I mean it is his main ability and considering how much he uses it, and on top of that, the way he expresses his love for gambling and the "fever", it would only make sense. Of course, it wouldn't make any difference because it's Sukuna so Hakari's gonna die, but I'd like to think Hakari's domain has enough refinement and speed to contend and even overpower Sukuna's domain.
There's no actual explanation in the manga on why hakari's domain wouldn't be the most refined in history, hear me out:
If you count the 4 mins 11 secs of jackpot + the time hakari spends inside the domain, then hakari can activate his DE more or less every 5 minutes, meaning he can pop his DE 288 times *per day* , literally all other characters in the show are stuck at "a few times per day" MAX, literally all of them.
And we can safely assume hakari did use this fact to practice DE, because that would explain his activation speed.
This would put him LEAGUES above anyone else in terms of experience except maybe kenjaku, and honestly I don't see any kind of talent beating this level of experience ( *288 times per day* , that's a three digits number *every day* and yes we can ignote fatigue and sleep time because his insane rct WOULD handle that).
Sukuna is probably gonna get his domain back and before crushes everyone hakari finally arrives and cancles out his domain
I mean yeah, he’s the only heavy hitter left that has a domain, there’s a reason why he has been offscreen fighting Uraume for 20 chapters now 😂 the moment Sukuna regains his domain, he’s gonna jump in 100% or else everyone is getting cooked in the Malevolent Kitchen.
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Isnt it stated in manga by the narrator aka Gege that Hakari has the fastest de activation in the series? There is no clash to worry about if he can always pop it off and spam it until he hits a jackpot, which is basically rigged to happen eventually because of those qualities.
He has the fastest at that point in time, which was broken by gojo’s activation speed agaisnt sukuna when he did it for 0.01 seconds. Also you can still have a domain clash if the next person opens it faster than you. The only exception is with gojo, if he opens it first you lose cuz his sure hit is immediate, which isn’t the case for hakari’s
@@farsous10ye gojo literally gives brain damage
Hey if hakari had a jackpot every single time, he would win it’s just one in…. A lot
"if".
@@windygrass9807 yeah
Now that I Think about it, the condition that allows the escape of sukuna's open domain strengthens his sure hit effect, so the fact that Gojo's closed domain's sure hit was equal to Sukuna's open domain sure hit means that if Gojo had an open domain that allowed for escape that would boost his sure hit effect even more, and thus be even stronger than sukuna's.
Too bad gojo isn't skilled enough to use an open domain
@@michaelsky251 indeed it is, but it's just something interesting to point out, which shows how busted he really is.
@@infinity2394 yh, now I'm wondering what the sorcerers will do when he gets his domain back. It's gonna be a problem
@@infinity2394 and no bro the condition was for range not for sure hit. He gets more range. Not stronger sure hit
No. Why? Because it’s Sukuna. That’s all the reason you need. That’s pretty much how everything is going down rn.
So nah…he can’t
It's honestly starting to sound like BS at this point.
The domains wouldn't clash. Their domains function in different manners. Hakari's domain is a normal type, sukuna's a a open. Hakari's have an inoffensive sure hit. They would co-exist.
Hakari couldn’t win the domain clash, but he could probably survive it
It honestly wouldnt surprise me if this is one of the reasons has been left out of the Sukuna fight, his idle death gamble would actually be hard to deal with for a weakened sukuna
Not necessarily, sukuna wouldn’t have a domain rn like it’s been shown, so hakari would get jackpot, and he still wouldn’t win agaisnt sukuna since jackpot mode was relative to base kashimo, who’s inferior to ct kashimo, who’s inferior to current sukuna
@@farsous10 Hakari would be fighting low output sukuna though since yujis lowering the output. If choso can tank a blackflash then i think hakari can survive against current sukuna
Hakari's domain works like a binding vow, so Sukuna domain would loose effect.
Hakari wins because he simply is too lucky. He has more plot armor than Sukuna.😂😂😂
If it is a closed domain and Hakari can get Jackpot i dont think Sukuna is even able to open a closed domain.
But Sukuna is going to hold his ground until jackpot fails.
You can still enter a domain clash seconds or minutes after your opponent opens theirs, like how gojo opened his way later after jogo opened his. There’s still a process to go to for hakari to get jackpot, he doesn’t immediately get it the moment he opens his domain. The only time you don’t have time to open your domain if someone else opens theirs first are gojo, mahito and curse naoya cuz their domain effects are immediate and you can’t counter it
@@farsous10 you can If you are stronger or even to your opponent but because of Hakaris Jackpot that gives him unlimited CE i don't think it is possible even for Sukuna or Gojo
@@affebanane3039 hakari isnt entering his first domain clash with infinite ce. So the first domain clash to get his first jackpot is crucial for him. But unfortunately for him if he’s trying to win a domain battle with gojo v sukuna he can’t. And with sukuna it’s an added layer of difficulty since sukuna’s domain can easily break hakari’s from the outside
@@farsous10 that is why i said If Hakaris has His Open Sukuna can't Open his considering the context of the Video. It is closed domain Battle
@@affebanane3039 ? I whether it’s close or open barrier sukuna is still winning the domain battle.
I think a big question here is exactly what 'refinement' means, because we've not exactly gotten a concrete explanation of what that means. Sukuna is much stronger than Hikari, but is his domain that much more refined than Hikari's that it'd instantly overwhelm his?
If refinement means experience, yeah, Sukuna has the edge, but if it means refined as in 'I've practiced one kick a thousand times and refined it to its highest level', I think they'd be comparable in that regard, as Hikari has mastered his Domain Expansion to an insane agree and it's probably one of the most refined we've seen.
Of course, as others have said, Sukuna's nature means he'd probably just let Hikari get his Domain Expansion and Jackpot Mode because it'd interest him and potentially give him a good fight, because that's in Sukuna's nature. If we're going off canon, that would definitely be the case as it'd mean Hikari would've had to defeat Uraume to reach Sukuna, and accomplishing that would definitely peak Sukuna's interest.
I would say refinement relates similarly to Gojo and Sukuna’s domains, to how large the domain can be expanded while maintaining a certain level of (usually lethal) power. Sukuna’s is obviously very high, being able to maintain the power of the slashes in Malevolent Shrine, while its range and gone even farther past Gojo’s own barrier.
Probably neither and it's just how polished your jujutsu sorcery is. Gojo has the most refined because of the 6 eyes and sukuna has the most refined Because of his mastery over jujutsu which is second to none
As for hakari, if they open simultaneously I think hakari wins because his sure hit lands faster and would overwhelm the enemy with info and their domain breaks (*that's why it's good) but if you don't open it simultaneously but do it later and have a more refined domain then you can overwrite hakari's domain
Personally, i think Hakari would match Sukuna in Domain battles since if Sukuna gets his domain expansion back, it would allow Hakari to have multiple domain clashes like how gojo and sukuna did
Yea but hakari doesn’t have the genius level battle iq like gojo and sukuna do to keep changing the conditions of their own domains every time
@@farsous10 well my vision of the fight is he learns to make a barrier less domain. It's outlandish but the argument could be because his technique is easier to implement and because he spent more time with a domain than most
@@justablackscreen9832your comment makes sense when I don't think about it
@@michaelsky251 of course you shouldn't think about it. It's just for hype😂
@@justablackscreen9832 you are fun
Sukuna will win with his plot armor right now. 😂
Yuta low diffs Kashimo!
Kashimo low diffs Yuta!
I feel like hakari's domain could equal higuruma's in weirdness so i think because of the unique clauses it would break others domains pretty easily in a clash
Real question is Hakari vs Higuruma. Both harmless domains.
Unrealistic hypothetical but imagine if Hikari could just “Parry” other domains by just activating his own. That would be pretty sick ngl
No
Haven't watched the video but yes my boy Hakari wins 100%
Im honestly feeling a bit hopeless and over it with Sukuna. Yes, he's Powerful. But i feel like at this point. Its getting boring. Hell, its probably getting boring for him too.
Hearing the forecast that is Sukuna. Soon enough, you get tired of listening to the weatherman and fall asleep.
Yes cause Hakari is the STRONGEST 🥶🥶🥶