You could fit a ducking 4.5 metre car going sideways through a 4.6 metre wide road in interior POV. I've never seen hater comments but whatever they said was going to hold zero weight whatsoever. Chin up king, and keep it coming.🤘
They literally make truck drivers practice by playing a simulator. F1 drivers practice by playing simulators. I don’t know why people think drifting is any different. Even pilots practice flying by playing simulators…
@@FirssenSimracing Some play F1 official games for fun, but they do "play" like top secret F1 simulator (simulator, not game) designed by the racing team
I took off, flew AND landed a plane in my first lesson with no help because my instructor knew how much time I spent doing research and practicing with my home sim. Before he let me land by myself (which is incredibly rare) he asked if I was actually a pilot that had been pranking him the whole time. He was a new hire at the flight school and thought the owners set it up to test him. Simulators work, which is why professionals regularly use them for training. There are a number of videos similar to Shifter's that prove this as well.
From what I observed, when a real life drifter tries to drift in a sim they lose information that they depend on like the g-force. That’s why they tell you it’s not the same. Sim drivers are used to rely on the wheel feedback to drift, so when they drift a real car they don’t lose information they only gain more feedback from the car.
to a degree yes. i drift both irl and practice on corsa, and you both lose feedback and gain it when doing it irl. main thing is a real car has the scare factor of being real, so you dont wanna just go crazy and crash it. so although you gain g forces, you lose recklessness. its pretty much equal for those reasons.
But to get to that point in drifting it already takes abundance of experience no body is going to transfer from sun to track and be the best and no one is saying that it does help ground you to the fundamentals that will carry you to that point
A friend of mine played a lot of gran turismo 6 before we met in college. After we met, he’s the most knowledgeable guy in campus on how to properly setup and tune your car irl + he drives fast irl and in sim games. Thanks to him, i am a bit more knowledgeable on how a car behaves while racing. He got recruited by a famous drifter in my country, was sent for a drift trial on an event with a loaned 3 series e36 with me riding shotgun. That’s the start of him being recognized as a junior drifter. All that just by playing gran turismo! He went on to win a nationwide event with a loaned e46 drift car, and became a pro class drifter. I definitely can attest that sim racing or drifting will actually train you for the real thing.
@@niggo.e36But it ain’t gonna be the same most if not all of the community will stick to AC 1 because I don’t see AC 2 being as popular because AC 1 is still growing till this day and it’s a 10 year old game. Imagine having to install all your mods again fuck that cause I personally have close if not over 1tb of mods installed. It’s a no from me lad 👌
@@AstonishLogiicEdits yeah i understand your point of view. The perfect solution would be if there was a launcher that converts the mods from AC to AC2 but that's not possible because of the different game engines i guess. I‘m sure they will not let us down in this case
There's a lot of feedback IRL that you just don't get in sim racing. In sim racing, you get cool tire screeching sounds and wheel force feedback. When breaking traction in real life, your shift knob starts to shake, you can feel the car rotating around center mass, your chassis/suspension communicates on when your car is about to break (assuming you're experience with the car). You know what though, without sim racing, I would've made at least a couple expensive mistakes by now.
@@Osamabintardin okay? I'm not trying to argue that it doesn't, simply that it's different. I did plenty of drifting in sim before doing it in real life.
@@DairyKing404 yeah i know what you mean but if you can drift with the limited feedback on sim, when you do it in a real car with all the feedback it'll be like drifting in HD, might take a short time to get used to it but if anything it'll be easier
I only played sim car games my whole life. When i first got into a manual car i knew how to drive it without stalling. But everybody else who tried it that day stalled several times lol.
they literally had rhys tatterson whos the virtual sim drifting world campion drive Piotr Więcek’s irl s15 2021 championship winning formula drift car, that has to tell a lot!, sim drifting is no different then irl in my opinion and i am so happy to see sim drifters get behind the wheel of a nice car and whip it around on real tracks, that just completes the circle! great job shifter!
I’m gonna point this out now. Yes sun racing helps a hell of a lot with the basics and how to start or save a spin and drift however it is important to remember while it does help, drifting irl and in sun are very different and you should still learn how to do it irl by a professional.
From what I’ve found and heard is that sim helps you understand what to do and when to do certain things whilst drifting. It’s not 100% but it’s the closest one can get, and it’s so fun
I don’t know how I got into drifting in real life playing assetto corsa and carx etc tried it in a real car after using the wheel setup and my hand placements were muscle memory from the game and did pretty good 👍🏻
As someone who drives and drifts in real life, I veiw sim racing as actually much harder than irl because you get no imformation from the car or your environement. No brake feel, no clutch feel, no G force, no tire grip, or feeling of speed. With sim racing the only feeling you get is your steering wheel vibrating left or right and can make it much harder to learn than actual real driving imo
The best part is that you were managed to drift in a regular car too, not even any sort of tuned car or car setup for the occasion (could be wrong though, I don’t know the exact specs of that bimmer)
I am just surprised on how this is even legal and we're they git the money money afford 2 BMWS 2?!?!?!WERE DID YOU GET THE DAMN MONEY ay but mad respect keep going good job
All I can say is I’ve been sim drifting for abt 2 years now and yesterday I did my first IRL 360 in my automatic Lexus is250. It handled just like assetto corsa it’s wild.
Either way, the experience teaches you how to handle the wheel in chaotic situations and regain control and a wheel is a wheel, traction or no traction, Abs or not.
its not the sim drifting, but excitement and eagerness to do it correctly... yes practice makes perfect but reality is that when you forget the part where you are willing to do it. then it will be perfect
I have had a sim for almost 6 months on my desk I finally could afford an e36 and the welded diff helps quite a bit but feels just like the sim confirmed✅
It's literally the same thing, but without the consequences of crashing or tire replacement. We can see how much sim games help with an example of a plane pilot, they use sims quite frequently even though they are required to fill out a certain amount of real life flight time.
In fact it is much better to switch to real driving after sim driving than opposite. Real world driving gives you a lot of feedback through your body by g force or vibrations that you feel with your entire body. In most of sim rigs the force feedback is only transferred through the steering wheel so it is like training fighting with closed eyes and then going for a real fight with eyes wide open. On top of that you don't have to worry about crashing a car in a sim so you push the boundaries even further. In most cases when people switch from sim to real world it goes much easier. When you look at pro real drivers it is much more difficult for them as they are used to feel the car through more senses than just their hands. For them it is like training with opened eyes and then going on a fight with eyes closed. Long story short - it is easier to adopt to more feedback from real world when you are used to less than adopt from a lot of feedback to little received from simrig.
Games like carx are just for fun but even the easier games can teach you a lot about doing it fr, it’s just a fun way to spend ur time in my opinion and it builds skill.
It depends on the game if you are playing realistic games that prioritize car physics you will learn but if you play too much arcade type physics it will be harder to learn thats why most people that start at carx will have a hard time at ac
Before the beginning of the F1 season, a pilot (might be Verstappen but really not sure) that said that the car this year were "pretty difficult to drive"... But the car were'nt finished yet. When asked hiw he knew, he just said that he's been driving them on the sim. He made no difference between sim and real life. Granted that they're using custom built sim that does not compare with our setups/softwares, I found it fascinating that a pilot racing in the biggest motorsport discipline disn't make a difference between sim and real life
People just talk nonsense, I used my sim heavily and still do before getting into it irl It’s actually helpful to start with a sim due to lack of G forces in simulation, when you transfer over to irl and get those forces it’s way easier irl once you know the basics & slightly more of how drifting works. But it’s all about chasing the never ending perfect run and that’s why drifting is so fun
People don’t realize it but sim games are called sim games for a reason. You can learn a lot from them. The one thing that sim games don’t have is car feel, you can’t feel what the car is doing and what it might do next, but in real life you have that extra sense.
it was kinda long time ago i think it was drift masters european and what it was that the person that won in the virtual version could drive petiors car since he won the irl version when the person drove ethe car petior said that the guy felt like he had been drifting for years
My old classmate had a drifter dad. You can even search him up, Giu Moretti. He started drifting on a G29 and then transfered to real life on a 350z. He already started connecting corners and doing insane drifts, just because of the simulator.. He went to important national competitions here in Brazil, but sadly some months ago he had a crash.. hes now playing beach tennis. He's the living proof that sim drifting DOES INFACT HELP in real life drifting
Been driving and drifting my whole life I got a sim and can’t do basic corners don’t no if it’s my settings or if I’m just so used to the way a car feels when drifting irl
ANother video went into this in detail. Drifting in simulator games is actually harder than real life as the game cannot give you any of the feeling feedback you'd usually feel while actually drifting, meaning you have nothing but visual reference to do it right.
Have you met with such opinions?
Tell me about the dumbest ones 👇
no, because I didn't make fake opinions like in the video.
You could fit a ducking 4.5 metre car going sideways through a 4.6 metre wide road in interior POV.
I've never seen hater comments but whatever they said was going to hold zero weight whatsoever.
Chin up king, and keep it coming.🤘
@@clockwise533 I'm glad you haven't come across people who said things like that for real yet.
haven’t seen any hate comments, *yet*
When someone say "What's interesting in cars"😤
F the haters 💪
Exactly🤙
For real 😎
Go goost! Drift irl pls
Fuck em 😎
goosiest! its good to see you around here
They literally make truck drivers practice by playing a simulator. F1 drivers practice by playing simulators. I don’t know why people think drifting is any different. Even pilots practice flying by playing simulators…
F1 drivers playing for fun.
@@FirssenSimracing They don´t.
@@FirssenSimracing Some play F1 official games for fun, but they do "play" like top secret F1 simulator (simulator, not game) designed by the racing team
I took off, flew AND landed a plane in my first lesson with no help because my instructor knew how much time I spent doing research and practicing with my home sim. Before he let me land by myself (which is incredibly rare) he asked if I was actually a pilot that had been pranking him the whole time. He was a new hire at the flight school and thought the owners set it up to test him.
Simulators work, which is why professionals regularly use them for training. There are a number of videos similar to Shifter's that prove this as well.
Military practice combat in simulators aswell
From what I observed, when a real life drifter tries to drift in a sim they lose information that they depend on like the g-force. That’s why they tell you it’s not the same. Sim drivers are used to rely on the wheel feedback to drift, so when they drift a real car they don’t lose information they only gain more feedback from the car.
best way to look at it imo
Yep. It's easier for sim drivers to adapt to real life than the other way around.
Yes, when I did my first drift by pulling the handbrake I felt like shit that's way easier
to a degree yes. i drift both irl and practice on corsa, and you both lose feedback and gain it when doing it irl. main thing is a real car has the scare factor of being real, so you dont wanna just go crazy and crash it.
so although you gain g forces, you lose recklessness. its pretty much equal for those reasons.
But to get to that point in drifting it already takes abundance of experience no body is going to transfer from sun to track and be the best and no one is saying that it does help ground you to the fundamentals that will carry you to that point
A friend of mine played a lot of gran turismo 6 before we met in college. After we met, he’s the most knowledgeable guy in campus on how to properly setup and tune your car irl + he drives fast irl and in sim games.
Thanks to him, i am a bit more knowledgeable on how a car behaves while racing.
He got recruited by a famous drifter in my country, was sent for a drift trial on an event with a loaned 3 series e36 with me riding shotgun.
That’s the start of him being recognized as a junior drifter. All that just by playing gran turismo! He went on to win a nationwide event with a loaned e46 drift car, and became a pro class drifter. I definitely can attest that sim racing or drifting will actually train you for the real thing.
That's inspiring story, thanks for sharing this!
plot twist:
This is the beta of Assetto Corsa 2
Just imagine, man I can’t wait to play ac 2
Assetto corsa 2 will never be a thing…
@@rbdshadow7272 it has already been confirmed
@@niggo.e36But it ain’t gonna be the same most if not all of the community will stick to AC 1 because I don’t see AC 2 being as popular because AC 1 is still growing till this day and it’s a 10 year old game. Imagine having to install all your mods again fuck that cause I personally have close if not over 1tb of mods installed. It’s a no from me lad 👌
@@AstonishLogiicEdits yeah i understand your point of view. The perfect solution would be if there was a launcher that converts the mods from AC to AC2 but that's not possible because of the different game engines i guess. I‘m sure they will not let us down in this case
people forget that the biggest handicap when sim racing is that you can't feel the Gs
It is like training with weights on.
There's a lot of feedback IRL that you just don't get in sim racing. In sim racing, you get cool tire screeching sounds and wheel force feedback. When breaking traction in real life, your shift knob starts to shake, you can feel the car rotating around center mass, your chassis/suspension communicates on when your car is about to break (assuming you're experience with the car). You know what though, without sim racing, I would've made at least a couple expensive mistakes by now.
@@DairyKing404 okay but what does that matter? Still can translate skill on a sim too skill irl
@@Osamabintardin okay? I'm not trying to argue that it doesn't, simply that it's different. I did plenty of drifting in sim before doing it in real life.
@@DairyKing404 yeah i know what you mean but if you can drift with the limited feedback on sim, when you do it in a real car with all the feedback it'll be like drifting in HD, might take a short time to get used to it but if anything it'll be easier
@@DairyKing404 all that feedback is what makes it easier in real life imo
I only played sim car games my whole life. When i first got into a manual car i knew how to drive it without stalling. But everybody else who tried it that day stalled several times lol.
holy crap dude awesome
Yo, thanks dude
really wasnt expecting you here
@@xa-xii1316 WOW elon mask son
@@fuckkkami yeah bro elon mask is really getting to work making his electric mask
FranzJ Moment?!
Wait until they heard pilots use flying simulator, they wouldn't even want to go near airplane lmao
That's gotta be the best way to prove the haters wrong
Sim drifting helps by teaching you the basic of competitive driving
More than the basic..
@@Nico8DS yeah
It's harder to drift in video games than real life
Yes, now we need see tandems with Goosiest, Ctoretto, and you in real life!🔥
@@nyghtemxre i am so stunned by this comment i cant even imagine
@@racist_ ok
@goosiest
😳
they literally had rhys tatterson whos the virtual sim drifting world campion drive Piotr Więcek’s irl s15 2021 championship winning formula drift car, that has to tell a lot!, sim drifting is no different then irl in my opinion and i am so happy to see sim drifters get behind the wheel of a nice car and whip it around on real tracks, that just completes the circle! great job shifter!
I LOVE THIS! TEEEELLLLLLLL THE HAAAATTTEEERRRSSSS. i mean AC IS a SIMULATOR lmao idk y ppl would say the game wouldnt help.
dude those drift clips are insane dude
Thx dude
Helps build muscle memory without the risk of accidents
I’m gonna point this out now. Yes sun racing helps a hell of a lot with the basics and how to start or save a spin and drift however it is important to remember while it does help, drifting irl and in sun are very different and you should still learn how to do it irl by a professional.
I think it just comes from people who can't drift in sim so they get mad and say how it's nothing like irl
Or the people that started off drifting irl and salty that no one else made the same expensive mistakes as them 💀
From what I’ve found and heard is that sim helps you understand what to do and when to do certain things whilst drifting. It’s not 100% but it’s the closest one can get, and it’s so fun
I don’t know how I got into drifting in real life playing assetto corsa and carx etc tried it in a real car after using the wheel setup and my hand placements were muscle memory from the game and did pretty good 👍🏻
Dude this is awsome. I always wanted to drift irl so this will help me. Thanks shifter!
As someone who drives and drifts in real life, I veiw sim racing as actually much harder than irl because you get no imformation from the car or your environement. No brake feel, no clutch feel, no G force, no tire grip, or feeling of speed. With sim racing the only feeling you get is your steering wheel vibrating left or right and can make it much harder to learn than actual real driving imo
Exactly, that's why it's better to start simdrifting before irl drifting
it truly dose help
MAN my top 10 fav sim drifting youtubers are mostly from Europe, love it!
Lol I have never heard anyone say that without getting shut down, or ever actually
Drifting is fairly simple imo, just takes some understanding and learning off sim with help you achieve that.
Sim drifting has no point, won't transfer to real drifting, etc.
- no one who has ever drifted a car😂
if you able to drift on sim this good, RL gonna be a joke, cuz u even feel more forces. Great job shifter
"Just like the simulations"
only can say : RESPECT BRO 💪
Thanks bro💪
after 1 year still i give you my respect @@ShifterDrifter
The best part is that you were managed to drift in a regular car too, not even any sort of tuned car or car setup for the occasion (could be wrong though, I don’t know the exact specs of that bimmer)
If that's your first time your a legend at drifting the first year
Hah thx
You dropped this 👑
And what is your drift car?
Hahah, thx. My car is e46 with 2.5 engine, complete spec of it is in the description under my full real drifting video.
THAT FIRST CORNER WAS PERFECT
Dooring that shit 🔥🔥 💯
That's why its called a SIMULATOR
I am just surprised on how this is even legal and we're they git the money money afford 2 BMWS 2?!?!?!WERE DID YOU GET THE DAMN MONEY ay but mad respect keep going good job
That was so clean at the end bro
If you can proof that you are the one drifting you have all my absolute respect! Also the drifting in CarX is amazing keep up the work!
some people will say
-bro It's easy! It froze!
-shut up!
Anyone that says unironically says''bro'' probably doesn't have a drivers license ignore them.
This proves a point that gamers, all gamers, are trying to make, gaming will help most of the time.
All I can say is I’ve been sim drifting for abt 2 years now and yesterday I did my first IRL 360 in my automatic Lexus is250. It handled just like assetto corsa it’s wild.
They talk crap about sims but they stop talking crap when they get embarrassed by a slower car on track irl.
Nice drifting can we see more
Yes, there is full video from drifting in real life on my channel if you haven't seen it yet.
had the same experience when i went to my first drift event, was a piece of cake just like asseto
It is called a simulator for a reason.
would love to see more irl drifting, graphics hits drifting
Either way, the experience teaches you how to handle the wheel in chaotic situations and regain control and a wheel is a wheel, traction or no traction, Abs or not.
Fucking respect bruv
Thanks bruv!
its not the sim drifting, but excitement and eagerness to do it correctly... yes practice makes perfect but reality is that when you forget the part where you are willing to do it. then it will be perfect
I have had a sim for almost 6 months on my desk I finally could afford an e36 and the welded diff helps quite a bit but feels just like the sim confirmed✅
I watched a video recently where this guy who won a sim drifting event got to try out real drifting in some drift champions car and he was amazing
Any Simulation drifting players can easily drift a real car thats not a big deal for them I've seen many sim drifters drifting a real car
It's literally the same thing, but without the consequences of crashing or tire replacement. We can see how much sim games help with an example of a plane pilot, they use sims quite frequently even though they are required to fill out a certain amount of real life flight time.
They teach you the fundamentals of car handling and physics. Absolutely applies to the real world when simulated accurately
Wschodzący Bialystok to entry level
I’ve seen that video of a pro simdrifter drifting a nissan s15 championship winning drift car irl and he was really good
But the difference is the feeling of weight. 😅
In fact it is much better to switch to real driving after sim driving than opposite.
Real world driving gives you a lot of feedback through your body by g force or vibrations that you feel with your entire body. In most of sim rigs the force feedback is only transferred through the steering wheel so it is like training fighting with closed eyes and then going for a real fight with eyes wide open. On top of that you don't have to worry about crashing a car in a sim so you push the boundaries even further.
In most cases when people switch from sim to real world it goes much easier. When you look at pro real drivers it is much more difficult for them as they are used to feel the car through more senses than just their hands. For them it is like training with opened eyes and then going on a fight with eyes closed.
Long story short - it is easier to adopt to more feedback from real world when you are used to less than adopt from a lot of feedback to little received from simrig.
My first drift car was a steel blue e46 just like that, damn i miss it.
Games like carx are just for fun but even the easier games can teach you a lot about doing it fr, it’s just a fun way to spend ur time in my opinion and it builds skill.
if only i had that setup , i could've pass the driving test first time
Dude you are amazing it is so fucking impressive that you can gi from a drift game to real life that's unbelievable
I have never heard anyone say this lol. I drift irl and have a lot of buddies who do to. We all play car x, ac, Forza, GT
Im on my first year of sim driving. hopefully I can drift IRL one day
They help so much
I have been playing simulators since I was 11. At 11 I got my first wheel. Now I’m 14 and I can’t wait to get my licence at 16.
Killed that shit. You drift like someone who’s been drifting for more than a day in that clip as far as I’m concerned
It depends on the game if you are playing realistic games that prioritize car physics you will learn but if you play too much arcade type physics it will be harder to learn thats why most people that start at carx will have a hard time at ac
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Before the beginning of the F1 season, a pilot (might be Verstappen but really not sure) that said that the car this year were "pretty difficult to drive"... But the car were'nt finished yet.
When asked hiw he knew, he just said that he's been driving them on the sim. He made no difference between sim and real life.
Granted that they're using custom built sim that does not compare with our setups/softwares, I found it fascinating that a pilot racing in the biggest motorsport discipline disn't make a difference between sim and real life
They once let the winner of a sim drifting competition drive a real drift car and he did it like he was still in the game bruh.
100% true, same story as mine. Irl it's even easier, cause you can get more feedback ;).
People just talk nonsense, I used my sim heavily and still do before getting into it irl
It’s actually helpful to start with a sim due to lack of G forces in simulation, when you transfer over to irl and get those forces it’s way easier irl once you know the basics & slightly more of how drifting works.
But it’s all about chasing the never ending perfect run and that’s why drifting is so fun
That's sick a sick track in the wet snow let's go
They actually help if you play with wheel of course😊
Fun fact max verstappen actually sim races to prepare for actual races
People don’t realize it but sim games are called sim games for a reason. You can learn a lot from them. The one thing that sim games don’t have is car feel, you can’t feel what the car is doing and what it might do next, but in real life you have that extra sense.
I wish I had a sim rig before trying to drift in real life
Literally nobody believes it’s your first time drifting irl. That’s bonkers
it was kinda long time ago i think it was drift masters european and what it was that the person that won in the virtual version could drive petiors car since he won the irl version when the person drove ethe car petior said that the guy felt like he had been drifting for years
My old classmate had a drifter dad. You can even search him up, Giu Moretti. He started drifting on a G29 and then transfered to real life on a 350z. He already started connecting corners and doing insane drifts, just because of the simulator.. He went to important national competitions here in Brazil, but sadly some months ago he had a crash.. hes now playing beach tennis. He's the living proof that sim drifting DOES INFACT HELP in real life drifting
Thats heaps good bro im happy for you
Ur e46 looks clean btw
Personally, I feel like sim racing gives you enough information about driving a car to kinda transfer that knowledge to irl driving
These games are realistic especially assetto Corsa they help lot of learning irl drifting too
yeah it's surprising how much it can transfer over from Sim to irl
They never let you tandem your first time
F*ck the haters bro keep doing what your doing bro ❤
It would probably help to do the sim in first person
Of course they help
It's like practicing but in a game
As someone who be drifting a bmw its definetly easier to learn to drift a bmw 3 series than to learn assetto corsa
Took me under a week to learn to drift a real car but cant even hold a slide in assetto
Been driving and drifting my whole life I got a sim and can’t do basic corners don’t no if it’s my settings or if I’m just so used to the way a car feels when drifting irl
ANother video went into this in detail. Drifting in simulator games is actually harder than real life as the game cannot give you any of the feeling feedback you'd usually feel while actually drifting, meaning you have nothing but visual reference to do it right.
whoa
looks like real life man.
In the fkin snow too!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
They don't understand that it's a "simulator". Those skills translate 💪🏻
Also got a car after 8 years of sim drifting and the first time on track i went nuts (the best on track there lol)
ive been playing drift games for 2 years and ive learnt how to drift dont listen to the haters