One poneglyph gives you a point. You could search for Laugh Tale by looking everywhere but that point, which is pretty much impossible. With two poneglyphs, you can cross the points and get a line. Then follow all the points inside the line, and reach Laugh Tale. Great, but no one stll found it, so it must be outside that line, given about another point. But no two combinations work. It's not in the line, but between lines. With 3 poneglyphs you get 3 points, which get you an area. You navigate through all the places in that area and still find nothing. But ir doesnt make sense for it to be outside an area, maps don't work like that. No 3 combinations work either. Why do you need all four poneglyphs? Adding another dimension to an area gives you either a volume, or a moment in a place. Which is funny because Roger said he was too early.
You know its only been like 3 months since the start of the 2 year time skip till now in One Piece time. These adventures only take a couple days or a night in Wano's case
@@Black-Moustache Yes, the raid took place in one night, but they spent a month in Wano. 2 weeks waiting time for the Fire Festival, a week of rest for Luffy and Zoro to wake up, then several days which I calculated to be 5 days later when they left Wano.
I don't disagree with the concept of time capsule but I like to think that the motto is "if I stay too long, I will never leave"... to find a place to live and never leave, is the ultimate antagonist of adventure.
Ever since the Flood was revealed and the idea of grandline Islands having been part of a bigger continent before, Little Garden made me question it straight away. How can one specific mountain in a continent remain in the Jurassic period? I think some Islands were always Islands, just like how we got such strange flora in Madagascar irl.
I believe that the “solid light” technology already exists in Egghead! They are those walls that from one side you can go through and suddenly it becomes solid. In my opinion what Vega Punk is trying to achieve is adding that technology to “moving light” (holograms) and the ability to turn the passthrough on and off, which would basically mimic a logia type devil fruit!
Unrelated to this specific video, but loved your collab with Hidden Island a few weeks ago! I remember in your health video you talked about doing that sort of live content felt difficult to come back to in recent years, but man it was perfect! I loved every minute. You guys really had an awesome back and forth conversation and the whole thing was just a vibe 😊. Just thought it was worth mentioning 😄
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One of the things that Intrest me with the whole warning of staying at Elbaf for too long is that what if the mist surrounding Warland is like some type of time slowing power at use
Literally half a sentence about the mist and that's it. No way would Oda allow this to be the extent of his world building! One of the Islands was a fucking elephant!
I'm surprised you didn't bring up my comment when it was heavily related to the issue with Little Garden you brought up in the beginning, namely that you'll get stuck due to the properties of logpose. I'm glad you mentioned Mother Caramel though because that was one thing I didn't mention but was thinking about as a justification for why the time distortion wouldn't be universal. Same with Roger. If he wanted to see the era of joyboy he could've spent his last years in Elbaph.
I dont know what exactly it would convey but Shanks did also bring up time when he left Elbaph most recently. Saying he had already spent too much time there, or that he was there longer than intended. A normal thing to say in the context of him partying with friends but interesting with the increasing possibility that Elbaph has some influence on time.
The time dilation reminds me of the Lotus Casino in lightning thief it’s known to “keep people longer than intended” mainly because 1 hour spent in the lotus casino is 420 hours in real life or outside of it.
Just laying here half asleep listening to this, sorry if it’s been covered, but what if the works changes around the crew while on elbaf. Like what if we have another time skip that the crew is unaware of and when they leave elbaf, the world is at war and Blackbeard seems to have won already..
Big Mom's coming back, one of the Straw Hats will either become a giant or have the power of a giant, We're gonna find out RE BIG MEME why Whole Cake Island is so messed up. Literal faries and talking wildlife like some Disney villain. She is literally introduced officially as a Disney villain singing her I want song. The One Piece is a storm cloud crown afro of some sort, the oni tribe became devil fruits. Its all happening! *IT IS FINALLY HAPPENING!*
Almost any competent writer can create an idiot character, but only a genius writer can craft a convincing genius character. Of all the convincingly genius characters and ideas in One Piece, it only speaks more towards Oda himself being a genius of some sort.
I'm starting to think now that Elbaph is a lie like one person suggested. I think it could parallel Dressrosa in that on the surface everything amazing and wonderful, but the longer you stay the harder it is to ignore what is really going on. I think that to maintain this peaceful utopia, the giants do things behind the scenes that are actually horrible and Loki is actually trying to do what Luffy would do and stop it. The beginning to the arc where they were in a fake world only to escape is Oda-sensei foreshadowing what's going to happen in the arc, like who ever lives at in the Astral level/top of the tree could be the ones running everything
i remember a movie with odysseus and he and his crew stayed on a island where they stayed there for 10 days and learned later that each day one year passed for the rest of the world
It makes even more sense to me that the sun stone painters are actually prisms since we’re talking about light and color spectrums. I think it’d be cool if the way Oda reintroduces the slow slow particles is by explaining that once light passes through sun stone painters, it filters out slow slow particles as indicated by its purple color to slow down particles in order to create solid light constructs like rainbows
*some youtubers* the begging of this arc was useless (wild claim, unsubbed and closed the vid) *joyboy* quantum physics That's why my notifications are on!
@JoyBoyTheories hey man that's why we're here that's why we come back that's why we love u ❤️ keep being u bro! Those fools disregarding Oda's dedication and story telling will be the meme in the long run!
JoyBoy is my boy, I am a humble commenter who have no potential to inspire you, just to inspire the algorythms, in love and light brother, and keep trippin'
After playing Black Myth: Wukong this year I read all of Journey to the West. In that novel the heavenly realm, which is where the Jade Palace is and where the gods live, passes through time more slowly. One day in the heavenly realm is one year on earth. I think this is a common feature of the heavenly realm in Chinese culture that isn't unique to Journey to the West. If Oda has taken inspiration from this then I could buy into the theory that not the whole island of Elbaph has time distortion. There is a heavenly realm near the top of the tree, maybe that's the only place where time is different.
Could it be that Laugh Tale is actually stored inside the Red Line and can only be found by going through a hidden maze maybe through mariejoa which was created by joyboy at the time before his defeat and where he saved a large amount of gold and treasures from the lunarians and? And Roger laughed Because imu and the celestial dragons never found this out, Not even until today
I want Roger to laugh about something far far far more obvious and stupid. How many times did Luffy or Usopp say something really really dumb? But then it turns out to be the biggest spoilers? HOW MANY TIMES!? I wanna feel got. I wanna feel had. I wanna feel foolish for not having seen it sooner! "AWESOME ROBOT" Luffy's Shadow inside of Oars' corpse on Thriller Bark. *HOW LITTLE DID WE KNOW?* haha a pun, unintentional, but perfectly illustrating the nature of the plot twist coming for us!
I am learning physics, history , theology and mythology while watching one piece theory video. Now my parents can't tell me I am wasting time on this. Peak educational content.
Are you truly trying to tell me that one of the few actual fillers that one piece has (the rainbow mist) has foreshadowed why laughtale can't be found by accident?!😂😂 😂😂
I think reaching Laugh Tale will have something to do with going back to Reverse Mountain and successfully navigate it. I mean people use Reverse Mountain to enter the Grand Line but that's more getting sucked up and spit out. But only a top tear crew with the best ship with the power to reach the end of the Grand Line could hope to navigate Reverse Mountain well enough to not get kicked out back into the Grand Line and have a look around.
This was a great comments video. Love all the tangents btw JB. If you're not hittin me with knowledge about OP, you are about science, real world myths, history, existentialism, etc 😆 Love the vids JB as always, cheers mate 🤙
25:20 ok this also blew my mind and made me think that the Grand Line is like the Pink Floyd album cover with the prism that refracts light into a rainbow spectrum
I do not believe giants wouldn't have notice a time capsule effect on their island (especially for those that have travel out of and then back to elbaf), and if its common knowledge for them I don't see Hajrudin and company keeping this knowledge from the strawhats, wouldn't make any sense.
Could this mean that laughtale is an invisible island quite literally and can only be seen when light refracts from the sun in a unique way? Or maybe the sea is concealing its vision from those who look on the sea floor?
13:40 This section made me think of the gloves Atlas invented that let you touch light. When I was reading Egghead, I thought they were going to be used against Kizaru's light powers, and that Robin would fight him with them, since devil fruits can change and replicate the user's clothing.
Time reacts differently the further you go up the tree. The reason why the ground floor is a graveyard of war is because that's how they keep Invaders out. The ground floor works the way that you are talking about. The fact that Luffy went down there for a little bit is going to have consequences later, beyond whatever he did. Do we even see the tree in any of mother carmel's backgrounds? Is it possible they were at the top? Also, knowing that this effect might exist, do not put it past the world government to have developed a countermeasure for it. If mother Carmel could live perpetually in a space where she could basically run her own shop pumping out graduates, then maybe they give her some Vegapunk grade drug.
21:25 the backgrounds of Big Mom's flashback match parts of the village on the Sun realm we arrived to in 1132 very closely so it seems like that's actually where Carmel and the kids were.
When Big Mommy was falling down to the lava she was talking about the One Piece could be in Wano then it pans out to everyone having fun and laughing. What if LaughTale is the laughs we had on the way and the One Piece is some eternal happiness which why Joyboy is always happy and Imu destroyed the 1000 year of happiness.
The craziest time dilation in One Piece is how it’s been like 5 years since the straw hats made it to the new world but in the actual story it’s only been a few months 😂
If Zoro learns to cut light, it would mark a new level of mastery in his swordsmanship, allowing him to cut intangible and energy-based elements, like light itself. This would make him capable of defeating Logia users like Kizaru, or holograms, countering light-speed attacks, and possibly transcending the laws of physics in battle. It could also signify his ultimate growth as a swordsman who can cut “anything.” Zoro might also need to cut through invisibility and intangibility to defeat Shiryu.
Since u need the 4 lode poneglpyhs to coordinate laughtale's location, Laughtale has to be: 1.Somewhere anyone can access 2 Somewhere not in plain sight 3.Something that must be interacted with to be revealed It might be the same technology to that of Vegapunk when he hid Emet in the junkyard behind a cloaked false wall(and when half the crew first entered VPs lab). Technically it would have to be superior technology to VP for no one to accidentally stumble onto Laughtale by now or something or someone on Laughtale consciously choosing who enters and who doesnt so the false wall can be malleable from becoming light or solid mass
Remember Nami got bit by an ancient tick in Little garden and that’s how she got sick when they went to Choppers island. So there could be a chance Oda makes another sickness in the Giant’s island. I have a sneaking suspicion that the warning from Louis Arnot is just that the giants go to war with each other constantly and it is simply dangerous for little humans. Oh and I think Mr Arnot is Usopp’s grandfather and Yassop will reveal he wanted to see if his father was a liar and that’s why he went out to sea. We never got Usopp’s last name. (;
The reason for radiation pressure is that light has momentum. Light doesn't have mass, but it does have momentum. Things without mass can still have momentum, which comes out from special relativity. E = mc^2 is actually a simplification of the real equation, as it applies only to objects at rest. The full equation is E^2 = p^2 c^2 + m^2 c^4. If the particle doesn't have any mass, this becomes E = pc, or p = E/c.
So, if i remember correctly, the Higgs Boson and Higgs field was theorized (then later shown through experiments) to solve a symmetry problem in the Standard model and account for some unexplained mass. It is not the source, per say, of mass. Most mass exists in the form of energy from gluons in the nuclues whose forces do not exert much influence beyond the tiny spaces of the nucleus.
"Reverse mountain" It will "reverse" everything done to the one piece world. This is my current "guess" ... redistributing the water from one side of the world to the other side...the red line will keep the changed water levels steady. Its an idea i recenty got...and often think about... This will make it possible to get the one piece.
The theory that time slows the closer you are to the tree struck a chord with me. Maybe the Eve tree works the same same way and Imu is not actually immortal, just stuck in time in the garden.
am rewatching the anime Ive just finished watching Water seven ark anime and this chapter dropped it was like destiny Too much emotions fell all around
commenting at 14.45. we've been shown holographic doors that you can go in one way and its solid from the otherside and holograms are refracted light... im actually starting to believe thats what the gates of justice might be as making themwould not be easy
I think Caramel was on elbaf just to get giant children, I doubt she could train them on-site but just sending them out would be more than what the marines or WG could get. She also lived away so nobody kept track of the children and CP0 had an easier time picking them up.
Time dilation has me thinking about Kidd washing up on shore at Elbaf. How long could he have been washed up? Like what if the strawhats find an older, wiser Kidd on Elbaf whom they just saw days before as a wild immature young man when they left Wano. It would solidify the importance of lingering in Elbaf.
When i read the warning, my mind went to the story of the lotus eaters in the odyssey. The ones who ate the lotus stoped caring about their past lifes or their mission but just wanted to stay at the land of lotus eaters.
For the time dilation to work on Elbaph, a simple explanation could be, the Adam Tree being a source of strong gravity. The weaker Strawhats haven't shown any sign of crumbling under their own weight or anything though
I've been wondering why Oda kept emphasizing the Seraphim still being incomplete when logically the story would not have the time for them to actually grow up before the final battle, and why did he create the plot point of Blackbeard wanting to establish his own country when there's no time for him to rule one even if he technically succeeded. Things like this make me wanna believe in the time theory
I definitely think everything you're talking about matters. If it didn't, why would Oda include scientists who ask these questions and created technology revolving around this. Our world is very complex, we still dont understand our planet to the fullest let alone the universe and I think Oda takes this chance to give us his imagination around this which in turn creates an even better and more fun world in One Piece. It also expands our mind if we're willing to ask or explore these ideas. And I've come to learn that with One Piece, if you're interested in looking into any of this it makes reading or watching One Piece even better. Not only are you getting useful and interesting information but you appreciate his story telling even more now that you some what understand his mind set and imagination around these theories or questions
The time moves slower in Elbaf makes no sense to me, cause if that's true, a lot of Giants walking around would've been in the Void Century, destroying the mystery of the Void Century all together o.o
That got me thinking of what if the slow slow fruit was awakened and they used it on little guarding that's why it takes a year for the post to reset and why everything on the island seems to have slow down in time. That's just me letting my imagination run loose lol.
Called me a downer, but I really hope albath doesn't have some time shenanigans going on. I hope the warning is simply " you will have so much fun. You lose track of time"
shanks has future sight knows loki wants to eat the gumo-gumo-no-mi shanks prevents loki from becoming nika because someone killing this father could never awaken the fruit (wrong spirited) switches the fruits and leaves elbaph with the gomu gomu no mi loki still thinks he can eat the gomu gomu no mi and proceeds with his plan by killing his father and eating the fruit loki gets mad once he finds out that it's not the fruit he thought it would be notice how loki is always smiling? only as a silhouette we see him not smiling when his proposal is rejected (that happens before the murder) shanks could indirectly and knowingly have given loki a smile fruit if true that could be one of the most evil moves you could imagine from a character you would never expect this from (though I strongly doubt this is the laugh tale roger was laughing in tears about - there's likely a bigger scheme on the cycle of rebirth and what the dawn actually looks like: could be a goofy dream world straight from the silly mind of nika - in this case luffy)loki was striving to become joyboy, but once shanks learned that he would do whatever he needs to do to achieve that (including killing his father) he turned it on him and made him the "joyboy" he truly saw in him - a psychopath like joker in nolan's the dark knight maybe shanks betrayal was what finally turned loki into the doombringer he turned out to be - not devil fruit powers, but his natural power no longer being restrained by sanity (as in loki was destined to do that) after that we don't know yet what shanks originally intended to do with the fruit, but ultimately luffy ate it if shanks knew loki would eat it because of future sight then either he knew it with luffy as well or he didn't which could be a sign of a fate that he cannot change (as in luffy was destined to do that) remember loki seems to have no idea that luffy ate that very fruit at this point in time - so he doesn't hate him - he primarily hates shanks (no wonder) now imagine what would happen if luffy learned all that from shanks now imagine what would happen if loki learned all that from shanks now imagine both learn the whole truth at the same time as a remnant of the last time shanks visited loki on elbaph that's some pretty bonkers kickoff for loki going on a doomsday rage combine that scenario with the next winter solstice and imagine luffy having fasted for 7 days and going on a rampage himself loki could be able to abet luffy into destroying elbaph (which could in turn be connected to destroying fishman island according to prophecy) since crucification was so prominently mentioned as a punishment for loki - the same punishment would likely be picked for luffy now we come full circle as luffy is crucified literally for the sins of others (yes luffy is jesus) he gets killed and awakens three days later once again through the power of the gomu gomu no mi (likely on the final days of fasting) this could be the reason why this fruit is more powerful than any other - once it awakens, it resurrects the bearer until dawn has come after resurrection luffy ends his rampage and we get to see the true sun god being praised on the actual winter solstice this marks the beginning of the dawn for the whole world when jesus was resurrected there were 12 eye witnesses at first - then over 500 there seems to have been a lunar eclipse on the day jesus was crucified - a special 20% partial lunar eclipse that lets the moon look red - like a blood moon (a symbol for the sun before the dawn - metaphorically the darkest moment before the dawn) after that jesus ascended into heaven as the son of god, reunited with his father "He (Jesus) ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and shall come again, with glory, to judge the living and the dead; Whose kingdom shall have no end." the first sunday after ascension is the sunday of the holy fathers of the first ecumenical council at nicaea the city of nicaea has quite some history Nicaea (also spelled Nicæa or Nicea, also known as Nikaia, was an ancient Greek city in the north-western Anatolian region of Bithynia that is primarily known as the site of the First and Second Councils of Nicaea (the first and seventh Ecumenical councils in the early history of the Christian Church), the Nicene Creed (which comes from the First Council), and as the capital city of the Empire of Nicaea following the Fourth Crusade in 1204, until the recapture of Constantinople by the Byzantines in 1261. Nicaea was also the capital of the Ottomans from 1331 to 1335. bottom line: jesus was a pirate :D some addendum on the winter solstice: 23:36 what if that happened to linlin as well when she went on a rampage? not sure, but I think there's no mentions of her rampaging before her stay on elbaph. this happend a few days after the winter solstice - "the death and rebirth of the sun" - where the "sun's warmth will return to end the winter". usually they fast for 12 days, but on the 7th day linlin went on a rampage. makes me wonder how luffy would handle fasting this long. before the fasting began there was a banquet at which they thanked the sun for the birth of loki, goldberg and road. no idea how long a giant pregnancy takes, but since winter solstice is celebrated every year I assume procreation happened shortly after the previous winter solstice. @JoyBoyTheories forgive my phrasing and reasoning, just wrote this down as a quick draft without making a well thought-out theory out of it but 23:36 was my starting point so thanks and feel free to do with it what you like - it was fun :D fun fact: elbaph might have some parallels to the nibelungen saga - but it is hard to say as I guess more characters will be introduced in elbaph that could give this evidence
I think Elbaf is “Big Garden”. So what we see in Little Garden? Two friends fighting for nothing. War is also meaningless and Elbaf is called Land of War. So I believe the warning is all about that if you stay for too long you end up participating in meaningless fight/war and because you need to take sides you fight against your friends. Luffy already made shady deal with Loki putting him against his crew - a meaningless fight/conflict.
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Laugh Tale could also be hidden in TIME
Reverse Pizarro...what is a literal island ate a Devil Fruit?So the power affect things in it's vicinity...like Long Ring Long Island
That would lead to a lot of coincidences and luck for the roger pirates voyage
@@JoyBoyTheories Foxxy's DF awakening slowing down time on certain areas?
One poneglyph gives you a point. You could search for Laugh Tale by looking everywhere but that point, which is pretty much impossible.
With two poneglyphs, you can cross the points and get a line. Then follow all the points inside the line, and reach Laugh Tale. Great, but no one stll found it, so it must be outside that line, given about another point. But no two combinations work. It's not in the line, but between lines.
With 3 poneglyphs you get 3 points, which get you an area. You navigate through all the places in that area and still find nothing. But ir doesnt make sense for it to be outside an area, maps don't work like that. No 3 combinations work either.
Why do you need all four poneglyphs? Adding another dimension to an area gives you either a volume, or a moment in a place.
Which is funny because Roger said he was too early.
This I think is more likely because of the fact that you need the poneglyphs to access it or to find it
"Our guy Oda is in fact a man, therefore he thinks about the Roman empire often" lmaooo
Oda is in reality a Quantum physics
It’d be crazy if the next time we see the seraphim, they’re grown adults.
Siiiiiiick idea
You know its only been like 3 months since the start of the 2 year time skip till now in One Piece time. These adventures only take a couple days or a night in Wano's case
@@Black-Moustache Heck. Dressrosa seems to all take action within ONE DAY.
@@Black-Moustache Yes, the raid took place in one night, but they spent a month in Wano. 2 weeks waiting time for the Fire Festival, a week of rest for Luffy and Zoro to wake up, then several days which I calculated to be 5 days later when they left Wano.
@@Crazylom The major battle took place in one day, but they spent three days total there.
"We stayed here too long" - Shanks
lol maybe fron his perspective he only stayed for a few hours but a few weeks passed by XD
This was my thought the whole video.
Why does it seem like he took weeks to go to barto.
I don't disagree with the concept of time capsule but I like to think that the motto is "if I stay too long, I will never leave"... to find a place to live and never leave, is the ultimate antagonist of adventure.
Sanji has yet to leave Gerth 😹
Ever since the Flood was revealed and the idea of grandline Islands having been part of a bigger continent before, Little Garden made me question it straight away. How can one specific mountain in a continent remain in the Jurassic period? I think some Islands were always Islands, just like how we got such strange flora in Madagascar irl.
I believe that the “solid light” technology already exists in Egghead! They are those walls that from one side you can go through and suddenly it becomes solid. In my opinion what Vega Punk is trying to achieve is adding that technology to “moving light” (holograms) and the ability to turn the passthrough on and off, which would basically mimic a logia type devil fruit!
Unrelated to this specific video, but loved your collab with Hidden Island a few weeks ago! I remember in your health video you talked about doing that sort of live content felt difficult to come back to in recent years, but man it was perfect! I loved every minute. You guys really had an awesome back and forth conversation and the whole thing was just a vibe 😊.
Just thought it was worth mentioning 😄
Hidden and me vibe way too much lmao Thanks man
hello, where can i find this video my brother? When i type "joyboy and the hidden island" all i get are theories about joy boy and laugh tale :) :) :__)
@@мрачничаробњак oh check out “the hidden island” he’s another one piece content creator. Really cool dude too!
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Yea, Hidden and Joyboy bounce off each other really well. That was one of the most fun collabs I've seen in a long time.
One of the things that Intrest me with the whole warning of staying at Elbaf for too long is that what if the mist surrounding Warland is like some type of time slowing power at use
Literally half a sentence about the mist and that's it. No way would Oda allow this to be the extent of his world building! One of the Islands was a fucking elephant!
I'm surprised you didn't bring up my comment when it was heavily related to the issue with Little Garden you brought up in the beginning, namely that you'll get stuck due to the properties of logpose.
I'm glad you mentioned Mother Caramel though because that was one thing I didn't mention but was thinking about as a justification for why the time distortion wouldn't be universal. Same with Roger. If he wanted to see the era of joyboy he could've spent his last years in Elbaph.
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Your theories + Area Zero OST are always amazing. All of your vids are 😅
How ironic it would be if ussop caught the "can't land at this island disease" in elbaph of all places, the island he most wanted to land at
I dont know what exactly it would convey but Shanks did also bring up time when he left Elbaph most recently. Saying he had already spent too much time there, or that he was there longer than intended. A normal thing to say in the context of him partying with friends but interesting with the increasing possibility that Elbaph has some influence on time.
The time dilation reminds me of the Lotus Casino in lightning thief it’s known to “keep people longer than intended” mainly because 1 hour spent in the lotus casino is 420 hours in real life or outside of it.
Just laying here half asleep listening to this, sorry if it’s been covered, but what if the works changes around the crew while on elbaf. Like what if we have another time skip that the crew is unaware of and when they leave elbaf, the world is at war and Blackbeard seems to have won already..
Big Mom's coming back, one of the Straw Hats will either become a giant or have the power of a giant, We're gonna find out RE BIG MEME why Whole Cake Island is so messed up. Literal faries and talking wildlife like some Disney villain.
She is literally introduced officially as a Disney villain singing her I want song. The One Piece is a storm cloud crown afro of some sort, the oni tribe became devil fruits. Its all happening!
*IT IS FINALLY HAPPENING!*
Good to see the comments video 😊
16:06 my man I'm here to watch a one piece video
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Almost any competent writer can create an idiot character, but only a genius writer can craft a convincing genius character. Of all the convincingly genius characters and ideas in One Piece, it only speaks more towards Oda himself being a genius of some sort.
He is a genius, even in the way he makes complex things simple
A lot of smart people cant dumb it down 😂
I'm starting to think now that Elbaph is a lie like one person suggested. I think it could parallel Dressrosa in that on the surface everything amazing and wonderful, but the longer you stay the harder it is to ignore what is really going on. I think that to maintain this peaceful utopia, the giants do things behind the scenes that are actually horrible and Loki is actually trying to do what Luffy would do and stop it. The beginning to the arc where they were in a fake world only to escape is Oda-sensei foreshadowing what's going to happen in the arc, like who ever lives at in the Astral level/top of the tree could be the ones running everything
i remember a movie with odysseus and he and his crew stayed on a island where they stayed there for 10 days and learned later that each day one year passed for the rest of the world
OHOH if the Giants are always hallucinating, maybe that’s why they’re calling the giant dinosaur a fucking moose lmao
If days in elbaf is several weeks or months outside, then those 300 year old giants might have born when it was 800 years ago outside
Please create more videos like this in the future; I always appreciate your insights.
It makes even more sense to me that the sun stone painters are actually prisms since we’re talking about light and color spectrums. I think it’d be cool if the way Oda reintroduces the slow slow particles is by explaining that once light passes through sun stone painters, it filters out slow slow particles as indicated by its purple color to slow down particles in order to create solid light constructs like rainbows
Prism? Or..... PRISON?
It bends the light. Like rubber.
Haha.
I just had a terrible feeling...
We're gonna see a Davy Back Fight. Unless it happens during the "final war."
*some youtubers* the begging of this arc was useless (wild claim, unsubbed and closed the vid)
*joyboy* quantum physics
That's why my notifications are on!
I'm a walking meme and proud of it lmao
@JoyBoyTheories hey man that's why we're here that's why we come back that's why we love u ❤️ keep being u bro!
Those fools disregarding Oda's dedication and story telling will be the meme in the long run!
JoyBoy is my boy, I am a humble commenter who have no potential to inspire you, just to inspire the algorythms, in love and light brother, and keep trippin'
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After playing Black Myth: Wukong this year I read all of Journey to the West. In that novel the heavenly realm, which is where the Jade Palace is and where the gods live, passes through time more slowly. One day in the heavenly realm is one year on earth. I think this is a common feature of the heavenly realm in Chinese culture that isn't unique to Journey to the West. If Oda has taken inspiration from this then I could buy into the theory that not the whole island of Elbaph has time distortion. There is a heavenly realm near the top of the tree, maybe that's the only place where time is different.
"Everything on Elbaf is bigger. History is..... bigger."
Time moving deferent on elbaf should line back up with Saul not looking for Robin. 22 years for her but only enough time for him to heal on elbaf
Could it be that Laugh Tale is actually stored inside the Red Line and can only be found by going through a hidden maze maybe through mariejoa which was created by joyboy at the time before his defeat and where he saved a large amount of gold and treasures from the lunarians and? And Roger laughed Because imu and the celestial dragons never found this out, Not even until today
I want Roger to laugh about something far far far more obvious and stupid.
How many times did Luffy or Usopp say something really really dumb? But then it turns out to be the biggest spoilers? HOW MANY TIMES!?
I wanna feel got. I wanna feel had. I wanna feel foolish for not having seen it sooner!
"AWESOME ROBOT" Luffy's Shadow inside of Oars' corpse on Thriller Bark. *HOW LITTLE DID WE KNOW?* haha a pun, unintentional, but perfectly illustrating the nature of the plot twist coming for us!
I am learning physics, history , theology and mythology while watching one piece theory video. Now my parents can't tell me I am wasting time on this. Peak educational content.
Forgot how much I missed these. Thanks homie
Are you truly trying to tell me that one of the few actual fillers that one piece has (the rainbow mist) has foreshadowed why laughtale can't be found by accident?!😂😂 😂😂
Always a good day when a Joy Boy video drops
I think reaching Laugh Tale will have something to do with going back to Reverse Mountain and successfully navigate it. I mean people use Reverse Mountain to enter the Grand Line but that's more getting sucked up and spit out. But only a top tear crew with the best ship with the power to reach the end of the Grand Line could hope to navigate Reverse Mountain well enough to not get kicked out back into the Grand Line and have a look around.
Great stuff, as usual.
This was a great comments video. Love all the tangents btw JB. If you're not hittin me with knowledge about OP, you are about science, real world myths, history, existentialism, etc 😆 Love the vids JB as always, cheers mate 🤙
25:20 ok this also blew my mind and made me think that the Grand Line is like the Pink Floyd album cover with the prism that refracts light into a rainbow spectrum
I do not believe giants wouldn't have notice a time capsule effect on their island (especially for those that have travel out of and then back to elbaf), and if its common knowledge for them I don't see Hajrudin and company keeping this knowledge from the strawhats, wouldn't make any sense.
Could this mean that laughtale is an invisible island quite literally and can only be seen when light refracts from the sun in a unique way? Or maybe the sea is concealing its vision from those who look on the sea floor?
Love the videos i watch them before bed
Reading comments is BACK BABYYYY
13:40 This section made me think of the gloves Atlas invented that let you touch light. When I was reading Egghead, I thought they were going to be used against Kizaru's light powers, and that Robin would fight him with them, since devil fruits can change and replicate the user's clothing.
Is it because Laughtale is the friends we made along our 25+ year journey together?
16:58 😂😂😂 that small dive into physics, math, and matter gave me flashbacks to college lol
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Time reacts differently the further you go up the tree. The reason why the ground floor is a graveyard of war is because that's how they keep Invaders out. The ground floor works the way that you are talking about. The fact that Luffy went down there for a little bit is going to have consequences later, beyond whatever he did.
Do we even see the tree in any of mother carmel's backgrounds? Is it possible they were at the top?
Also, knowing that this effect might exist, do not put it past the world government to have developed a countermeasure for it. If mother Carmel could live perpetually in a space where she could basically run her own shop pumping out graduates, then maybe they give her some Vegapunk grade drug.
The first time we see the tree is in the Mother Carmel flashback.
21:25 the backgrounds of Big Mom's flashback match parts of the village on the Sun realm we arrived to in 1132 very closely so it seems like that's actually where Carmel and the kids were.
Straw Hate sounds like an overlooked autocorrect feature on the computer
I want one hour long videos, love those
I appreciate the dip into physics, you have a decent understanding
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Also damn dude I'm do glad you went on the "Tangent" I love that stuff 😅
It's my favorite part lmao
Didn't realize I needed to brush up on my quantum mechanics and relativity for understanding a One Piece theory 😂
When Big Mommy was falling down to the lava she was talking about the One Piece could be in Wano then it pans out to everyone having fun and laughing. What if LaughTale is the laughs we had on the way and the One Piece is some eternal happiness which why Joyboy is always happy and Imu destroyed the 1000 year of happiness.
Imagine using the Painter to turn Kizaru into a temporary bridge as a gag since he’s made of light.
The craziest time dilation in One Piece is how it’s been like 5 years since the straw hats made it to the new world but in the actual story it’s only been a few months 😂
What happen in laugh tale?
The light-matter theory is interesting and makes the holograms on Egghead very relevant
If Zoro learns to cut light, it would mark a new level of mastery in his swordsmanship, allowing him to cut intangible and energy-based elements, like light itself. This would make him capable of defeating Logia users like Kizaru, or holograms, countering light-speed attacks, and possibly transcending the laws of physics in battle. It could also signify his ultimate growth as a swordsman who can cut “anything.” Zoro might also need to cut through invisibility and intangibility to defeat Shiryu.
Since u need the 4 lode poneglpyhs to coordinate laughtale's location, Laughtale has to be:
1.Somewhere anyone can access
2 Somewhere not in plain sight
3.Something that must be interacted with to be revealed
It might be the same technology to that of Vegapunk when he hid Emet in the junkyard behind a cloaked false wall(and when half the crew first entered VPs lab). Technically it would have to be superior technology to VP for no one to accidentally stumble onto Laughtale by now or something or someone on Laughtale consciously choosing who enters and who doesnt so the false wall can be malleable from becoming light or solid mass
Remember Nami got bit by an ancient tick in Little garden and that’s how she got sick when they went to Choppers island. So there could be a chance Oda makes another sickness in the Giant’s island. I have a sneaking suspicion that the warning from Louis Arnot is just that the giants go to war with each other constantly and it is simply dangerous for little humans. Oh and I think Mr Arnot is Usopp’s grandfather and Yassop will reveal he wanted to see if his father was a liar and that’s why he went out to sea.
We never got Usopp’s last name. (;
The reason for radiation pressure is that light has momentum. Light doesn't have mass, but it does have momentum. Things without mass can still have momentum, which comes out from special relativity. E = mc^2 is actually a simplification of the real equation, as it applies only to objects at rest. The full equation is E^2 = p^2 c^2 + m^2 c^4. If the particle doesn't have any mass, this becomes E = pc, or p = E/c.
Ive always said hypnosis is apart of the power system. I called it !
He's back!!!!
Definitely a lot of things that I've thought of about the series.
So, if i remember correctly, the Higgs Boson and Higgs field was theorized (then later shown through experiments) to solve a symmetry problem in the Standard model and account for some unexplained mass. It is not the source, per say, of mass. Most mass exists in the form of energy from gluons in the nuclues whose forces do not exert much influence beyond the tiny spaces of the nucleus.
Man that Area Zero song is a vibe
"Reverse mountain"
It will "reverse" everything done to the one piece world.
This is my current "guess" ...
redistributing the water from one side of the world to the other side...the red line will keep the changed water levels steady.
Its an idea i recenty got...and often think about...
This will make it possible to get the one piece.
Damn cool idea..
@JoyBoyTheories its now out there...i hope this inspires some other folks...
The theory that time slows the closer you are to the tree struck a chord with me. Maybe the Eve tree works the same same way and Imu is not actually immortal, just stuck in time in the garden.
am rewatching the anime Ive just finished watching Water seven ark anime and this chapter dropped it was like destiny
Too much emotions fell all around
commenting at 14.45. we've been shown holographic doors that you can go in one way and its solid from the otherside and holograms are refracted light... im actually starting to believe thats what the gates of justice might be as making themwould not be easy
I think Caramel was on elbaf just to get giant children, I doubt she could train them on-site but just sending them out would be more than what the marines or WG could get. She also lived away so nobody kept track of the children and CP0 had an easier time picking them up.
Two piece : i hope the story follows the seraphin who have been freed and start their own pirate crew together.
Light and magnets? Kid redemption arc
This time-related shenanigans will give us the answer to Dr. Kureha’s unusually long life….maybe she was on Elbalph for a long while.
Time dilation has me thinking about Kidd washing up on shore at Elbaf. How long could he have been washed up? Like what if the strawhats find an older, wiser Kidd on Elbaf whom they just saw days before as a wild immature young man when they left Wano. It would solidify the importance of lingering in Elbaf.
what is the background music at 20:20?
Every time we get Void Century/Ancient Kingdom info, the more I believe Oda is a fan of Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock
When i read the warning, my mind went to the story of the lotus eaters in the odyssey. The ones who ate the lotus stoped caring about their past lifes or their mission but just wanted to stay at the land of lotus eaters.
For the time dilation to work on Elbaph, a simple explanation could be, the Adam Tree being a source of strong gravity. The weaker Strawhats haven't shown any sign of crumbling under their own weight or anything though
I've been wondering why Oda kept emphasizing the Seraphim still being incomplete when logically the story would not have the time for them to actually grow up before the final battle, and why did he create the plot point of Blackbeard wanting to establish his own country when there's no time for him to rule one even if he technically succeeded. Things like this make me wanna believe in the time theory
Someone awakened the slow-slow fruit on elbaf and that's why time passes slower
I definitely think everything you're talking about matters. If it didn't, why would Oda include scientists who ask these questions and created technology revolving around this. Our world is very complex, we still dont understand our planet to the fullest let alone the universe and I think Oda takes this chance to give us his imagination around this which in turn creates an even better and more fun world in One Piece. It also expands our mind if we're willing to ask or explore these ideas. And I've come to learn that with One Piece, if you're interested in looking into any of this it makes reading or watching One Piece even better. Not only are you getting useful and interesting information but you appreciate his story telling even more now that you some what understand his mind set and imagination around these theories or questions
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So in the early release, it looked like don't stay too long.
Now it looks more like, don't make the giants angry.
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE RAINBOW to get the treasure at the end
The time moves slower in Elbaf makes no sense to me, cause if that's true, a lot of Giants walking around would've been in the Void Century, destroying the mystery of the Void Century all together o.o
That got me thinking of what if the slow slow fruit was awakened and they used it on little guarding that's why it takes a year for the post to reset and why everything on the island seems to have slow down in time. That's just me letting my imagination run loose lol.
Called me a downer, but I really hope albath doesn't have some time shenanigans going on. I hope the warning is simply " you will have so much fun. You lose track of time"
The lore of the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
"Don't linger there"
Don't forget that there's a mystery on ennies lobby too - always day time. What if the goverment figured out how to freeze time there?
shanks has future sight
knows loki wants to eat the gumo-gumo-no-mi
shanks prevents loki from becoming nika because someone killing this father could never awaken the fruit (wrong spirited)
switches the fruits and leaves elbaph with the gomu gomu no mi
loki still thinks he can eat the gomu gomu no mi and proceeds with his plan by killing his father and eating the fruit
loki gets mad once he finds out that it's not the fruit he thought it would be
notice how loki is always smiling? only as a silhouette we see him not smiling when his proposal is rejected (that happens before the murder)
shanks could indirectly and knowingly have given loki a smile fruit
if true that could be one of the most evil moves you could imagine from a character you would never expect this from
(though I strongly doubt this is the laugh tale roger was laughing in tears about - there's likely a bigger scheme on the cycle of rebirth and what the dawn actually looks like: could be a goofy dream world straight from the silly mind of nika - in this case luffy)loki was striving to become joyboy, but once shanks learned that he would do whatever he needs to do to achieve that (including killing his father)
he turned it on him and made him the "joyboy" he truly saw in him - a psychopath like joker in nolan's the dark knight
maybe shanks betrayal was what finally turned loki into the doombringer he turned out to be - not devil fruit powers, but his natural power no longer being restrained by sanity (as in loki was destined to do that)
after that we don't know yet what shanks originally intended to do with the fruit, but ultimately luffy ate it
if shanks knew loki would eat it because of future sight then either he knew it with luffy as well or he didn't which could be a sign of a fate that he cannot change (as in luffy was destined to do that)
remember loki seems to have no idea that luffy ate that very fruit at this point in time - so he doesn't hate him - he primarily hates shanks (no wonder)
now imagine what would happen if luffy learned all that from shanks
now imagine what would happen if loki learned all that from shanks
now imagine both learn the whole truth at the same time as a remnant of the last time shanks visited loki on elbaph
that's some pretty bonkers kickoff for loki going on a doomsday rage
combine that scenario with the next winter solstice and imagine luffy having fasted for 7 days and going on a rampage himself
loki could be able to abet luffy into destroying elbaph (which could in turn be connected to destroying fishman island according to prophecy)
since crucification was so prominently mentioned as a punishment for loki - the same punishment would likely be picked for luffy
now we come full circle as luffy is crucified literally for the sins of others (yes luffy is jesus)
he gets killed and awakens three days later once again through the power of the gomu gomu no mi (likely on the final days of fasting)
this could be the reason why this fruit is more powerful than any other - once it awakens, it resurrects the bearer until dawn has come
after resurrection luffy ends his rampage and we get to see the true sun god being praised on the actual winter solstice
this marks the beginning of the dawn for the whole world
when jesus was resurrected there were 12 eye witnesses at first - then over 500
there seems to have been a lunar eclipse on the day jesus was crucified - a special 20% partial lunar eclipse that lets the moon look red - like a blood moon (a symbol for the sun before the dawn - metaphorically the darkest moment before the dawn)
after that jesus ascended into heaven as the son of god, reunited with his father
"He (Jesus) ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and shall come again, with glory, to judge the living and the dead; Whose kingdom shall have no end."
the first sunday after ascension is the sunday of the holy fathers of the first ecumenical council at nicaea
the city of nicaea has quite some history
Nicaea (also spelled Nicæa or Nicea, also known as Nikaia, was an ancient Greek city in the north-western Anatolian region of Bithynia that is primarily known as the site of the First and Second Councils of Nicaea (the first and seventh Ecumenical councils in the early history of the Christian Church), the Nicene Creed (which comes from the First Council), and as the capital city of the Empire of Nicaea following the Fourth Crusade in 1204, until the recapture of Constantinople by the Byzantines in 1261. Nicaea was also the capital of the Ottomans from 1331 to 1335.
bottom line: jesus was a pirate :D
some addendum on the winter solstice:
23:36 what if that happened to linlin as well when she went on a rampage?
not sure, but I think there's no mentions of her rampaging before her stay on elbaph.
this happend a few days after the winter solstice - "the death and rebirth of the sun" - where the "sun's warmth will return to end the winter".
usually they fast for 12 days, but on the 7th day linlin went on a rampage. makes me wonder how luffy would handle fasting this long.
before the fasting began there was a banquet at which they thanked the sun for the birth of loki, goldberg and road.
no idea how long a giant pregnancy takes, but since winter solstice is celebrated every year I assume procreation happened shortly after the previous winter solstice.
@JoyBoyTheories forgive my phrasing and reasoning, just wrote this down as a quick draft without making a well thought-out theory out of it
but 23:36 was my starting point so thanks and feel free to do with it what you like - it was fun :D
fun fact: elbaph might have some parallels to the nibelungen saga - but it is hard to say as I guess more characters will be introduced in elbaph that could give this evidence
If this is rue, I‘m surprised that shanks visits Elbaf. He‘d leave his islands unprotected
I think Elbaf is “Big Garden”. So what we see in Little Garden? Two friends fighting for nothing. War is also meaningless and Elbaf is called Land of War. So I believe the warning is all about that if you stay for too long you end up participating in meaningless fight/war and because you need to take sides you fight against your friends. Luffy already made shady deal with Loki putting him against his crew - a meaningless fight/conflict.
❤ ty for reading my comment, I love your videos!!! The highest level of waves in the Electromagnetic spectrum are photons, foxys power effects norotum photons? EMS effects light and time?
I would 100% buy it!
I know it’s non canon but the rainbow mist filler might have some clues. There also was a time dilation affect