Every Warhammer 40K Army Ranked by HOW EXPENSIVE they are to Collect
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- Let's talk through the price of buying units for each faction in Warhammer 40,000 and discuss how expensive they are to collect an army of...
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0:00 Intro
0:09 Adeptus Custodes
2:35 Points Per Dollar
3:54 Grey Knights
5:46 Imperial + Chaos Knights
7:39 Space Marines
10:09 Space Marine Chapters
12:00 World Eaters
13:32 Chaos Space Marines
14:32 Death Guard
16:00 Thousand Sons
17:17 Necrons
19:22 Leagues of Votann
20:26 Chaos Daemons
22:50 T'au Empire
24:27 Drukhari
26:38 Aeldari
28:19 Tyranids
31:04 Adepta Sororitas
33:51 Orks
36:27 Genestealer Cults
38:56 Adeptus Mechanicus
40:56 Astra Militarum
44:19 Outro - Ігри
I find this very ironic that despite made of gold, custodes are the cheapest army to play
What's even funnier is in the lore there's only like 10,000 custodians in the universe. There's more than that in just people who play the army. Or, even funnier, at big tournaments there's a reasonable chance that every custodian that exists in the lore may show up at that tournaments.
Wow your right, that's kinda funny to think about actually
@@dickkickem4238 I don't think 10,000 custodes minis turn up at one major tournament, a 2k points list of custodes barely has like 30 custodes in it so you would need like over 300 custodes players at one tournament.
@@tajj7I would be more concerned about how many Guilliman and other named characters apparently exist in multiple copies at a tournament 9f we really are following this odd narrative.
@@kylekeenan3485 Well yeh that too. Also aren't Aeldari and Drukhari pretty small numbers wise as well? COnsidering how meta they are pretty much all their wraithknights etc. must be present at one tournament especially at the moment.
The Guard lives on sacrifice, don't falter; hold the line.
your wallet cracks before the guard do
I shall hold!
Until I got 1000point guard
Which is more than 250 dollar
i habe 6k of Guard. it’s not amazing but it’s been a major financial investment. i’m sure many people have 10-20k. guard fans tend to be long time collectors and just buy tons of stuff. love the guard.
@@adamcarey6093 luv da gahrd, luv da emprah, 'ate da xenos, 'ate da 'eretic, simple as
I’ve been a guard player for 15 years now and I’m at 3k-4k it’s about the journey ❤
Expensive AND not super fun to play right now. Admech's got it all!
Dont forget infuriating to paint. Admech has got it all!
I have a ton of Skitarii models. 40 of which are secutarii (20 peltasts and 20 hoplites.)
I am, and this is an understatement, not happy right now.
I really do hate how my favourite faction:
-sucks to paint
-expensive as hell
-really crap rules-wise
Literally the only reason to play them is because of how damn cool they are
Means you are a masochist if you play admech^^
It really sucks because they are amazing to me lore wise and design wise. I really hope they get the ruleset they deserve later this edition. I'm not holding my breath though.
The wallet broke before the guard did
Ironic how the 2 most expensive armies is also often considered the hardest ones to paint in a decent tabletop standard. 😅
It's so you can financially recover between purchases
Really the top 3. Painting GSC is a nightmare, too.
I play gsc, and can confirm without that combat patrol box the army would be impossible for me to collect.
I’m getting into GSC, I’m going to field Star Wars Legion Wookiees as Hybrids.
@@randomidoit9605 😂 Chewie, throw the demo charge!
@@user-ck5ry5qd7m Well I don’t exactly plan to do that…
So, you're going for the Marjory Taylor Green faction. Brave. Brave.
Orks benefit from being such a large army in that people regularly give up and sell their ork stuff on ebay, usually for cheap since there are so many out there
Yep. I got 60 boys, 15 nobz, 15 bikes, 2 warbosses, and a converted painboy for 60 bucks. And a middling but passable paint job.
@@benmurr5854badly painted Orks are just more Orky. :p
One thing I've noticed about space marines (im a Tsons player) is that because there are so many options you may end up needing to buy almost an entirely new army each time a new ediotion or codex comes out, that happened to a friend of mine who played space wolves in 9th and then needs to replace almost his entire army for 10th to stay competitively viable. Whereas someone that plays a more limited army like thousand sons will not have to buy all that many models from edition to edition.
Good point!
So, I got into 40K with 9th. I started Black Templars and then added Thousand Sons.
Come 10th - my thousand sons army is already valid and ready to go, maybe lacking a little heavy firepower so I picked up….. one vindicator. I may eventually go back and add more flamer rubrics, but it’s a future proofing aspiration not a need with the shift.
My Templars haven’t come off the shelf - I can’t figure out how to play them in 10th unless 1) buy a ton more crusaders and be a power armor ork player 2) play Gladius rules and buy a bunch of new shooty units (Hellblasters, gladiator tank, etc).
There is definite truth to the “space marines are cheap to start and expensive to maintain” especially if you don’t want to be tabled once things change.
I mean that's only a problem if you play competitively and don't home brew rules
Me, a Harlequin fan: "Well aint that sad"
I bought my 3D printer specifically so I could print my own Traitor Guard, instead of relying on 1 kit that's always OOS, and spending millions assembling and converting. Given the size of my collection thus far I think my printer has paid for itself already.
Incroyable.
Pro tip for Sororitas players, BUY A NOVITIATE BOX. Combine novitiate bits with standard battle sisters and you can make a canoness with any of her options, a palatine, a dogmata, an imagifier, a hospitaller, a dialogus and a mistress of repentance for cheap, as well as the novitiate squad itself.
Please 40k players stay away from our kill team boxes, there is enough shortage already as GW can't answer their demand. :--D
@@hz958Wow, so entitled. As if all of the boxes belong to you lmao.
@@KarpetBurnexcept, they do
The most expensive army is the one bought at full price from Games Workshop direct.
Never buy from GW direct. Even if none exist on the secondary market or resellers, just proxy that shit.
Yeah ... I think I'ma buy a resin printer lol
Chaos Daemons jumps all the way down to 1/10 if you also play Age of Sigmar
Yep
Yes and no. If you're playing Khorne, it's a no-brainer. But every other god only has a value box that's AoS specific. Meaning a mixture of Daemon and Mortal units, only the former of which can carry over to 40K.
Grey Knights: Buy three combat patrols and boom, 2k point army with variety!
That Combat Patrol box is just so good
Space marines is a 10, you'll never end that army.
Everytime I watch a vid like these rankings hoping to see admech in a good place I have my hopes utterly shattered after finding out that they are some of the; most expensive, worse performing, harder to paint, complexly ruled, and more… I think I messed up by choosing them as my first….. (but ah well, they cool af)
Collect what you like it doesn't matter. I have admech and after 5 years I can now field 500 points.😊
Not too late to switch to knights! Paint em up like admech and take one as a Freeblade until you flesh out 2000pts. Probably better than any of your admech units anyways laugh😂
I feel your pain, brother. I really wanted to go Admech based on aesthetics but got turned off by being so expensive and hard to play.
@@TheGreatMilksteakdid you write laugh to get the emoji to pop up and forget to remove the text lol
@@cakeeatersure did!
This is really cool but I'd also like to see "Every Army Ranked by how much plastic you get per dollar" - Some armies are way more hobby value than others (GSC) and its not something that's often discussed.
That's exactly why I picked GSC over Tyranids as my second army. Lots of cool models and great kitbashing potential 🤙
I see. I agree, people seem to talk more about the weekly or bi-weekly games and not the daily hobby time. For every one minute of game time, there's about 10 minutes of building and painting.
Yes! I would love to see this kind of video. I am more interested in how many models i can get for my money not how many points. At this moment in time I am new to warhammer and wanting to pick an army and start next week. I want to get good at building / painting before focusing on playing.
kind of reminds me of that poorhammer video about the $500 armies
And most ofit is invalid 6 months later =(
One thing about Black Templars kits - for every squad level kit, you get an absurd amount of extra bits. The Primaris Crusader squad gives you BT arms, heads, and shoulders for far more than six/ten Intercessor bodies, so even if you have simple monopose Intercessors, you can easily give them BT appropriate parts. The single kits have strong "army-wide" upgrade value.
And of course because of my taste, 3 out of 4 of the armies I’m collecting are the most expensive. Sisters of Battle, Genestealer Cults, & Imperial Guard. Fourth one is T’au.
Custodes repping!
May the 10,000 always stand firm
Man, I really wish GW creates a rule set or model range that allow the Tau to play similar to the Imperial/Chaos Knights. It's so weird that the group that rivals the Imperium with technology has little that can challenge a knight directly.
In lore the Stormsurge is an anti-titan battlesuit. It's big gun is powerful enough to punch through void shields and destroy the titan within. Against Knights, they outclass them in firepower (the weapons avaliable to a Knight simply can't compete, being far shorter range and less powerful), and iirc they nearly destroyed House Terryn on Agrellan.
On the tabletop, they are overpriced for what they are, don't have the staying power that Knights do, and the fantastic range on the main gun rarely gets a chance to be fully utilized, since often the board is too small.
@@MrFairbanksak1 to be fair though
doesn't each t'au sept only have between 1 and 2 stormsurges?
I could be wrong though
though if so I feel like they should be more stompa tier with guns that can really wreck anything they hit
I managed to get just over 2000pts of Necrons with shrewd purchases on eBay. There are still a LOT of people selling the Indomitus/Command/Recruit/Elite halves, and the Imperium magazine is also a good source (Royal Court only cost me £25).
Sorry to necromance your comment, but im curious as to any units that would be worth looking out for with necrons currently. I already have the indomitus half, and dont quite know where to build from there 😅
The only thing you missed is that daemons are also an age of sigmar army, so that's a money saver if you want to play both games.
How good are they in AoS?
Only if you play Khorne, though. Sure, the other gods have value boxes, but those are AoS specific. Containing a mix of Daemon and Mortal models. The latter, while cool, don't contribute to your 40K army unless you're willing to aggressively proxy.
Demons will also be in "the old world" you only need some movementtrays. And they exist in Hours Heresy.
So you get all main systems from GW with ONE Armee.
@@uwesca6263 Disciples of Tzeentch is very very strong at the moment , since the current meta favors spellcaster and Tzennetch is the most spell heavy army there they have a big advantage.
And units like Kairos is a must have and costs 450 points in AOS compared to 285 points in 40k.
However, I find that many Chaos kits for either game don't get the 3rd party discount... so they're 15% more expensive than everything else :D
Really can’t wait for Tyranids to get a new Combat Patrol, Boarding Patrol, and Battle Force box.
Hopefully those will have a lot of good value when they release.
No way they will beat value of leviathan box though, we'll probably get part of nid side repackaged.
I had more luck than brain when I first started colllecting Genestealercult, cause through local players selling their pile of shame, some batshit insane ebay discounts (and some 3d printing) I got 1990 points for 260€
Got ~2500pts worth of thousand sons in a similar fashion for £250. Great units too, 40 rubrics, 40 tzaangors, 5 SoTs, 2 ahrimans, 3 exalteds, 3 infernal masters and magnus all NIB for that price.
Better to be lucky than good
Grey Knights are also good, because you can buy a bunch of space marines and convert them with some fitting bits, savgin a lot and essentially getting knights at marine prices.
I think, when looking at prices, it’s also important to take into account the model itself. You’re not just buying a game piece; you’re also buying a (sometimes) well-made model that you can paint up and feel proud about your work
I’d say thats fair, but the painting comes from you, not gw and their dumb prices. Other mini companies do just as good for less
@@colonelturmeric558your milage may vary but i think GW (and FW) models are the highest quality out there. Other companies (mostly diorama model producer) make great minis but they are more expensive. (I live in germany gw prices are ok here.)
@@colonelturmeric558 If not better. Large chunks of 40K armies are older models. While these may one day be replaced with new models, it still means that NOW they're objectively worse than what you can buy 3d printed on Etsy.
I was just mentioning to someone the traditional "New Edition Deathwatch Arm-Ripping". Almost need to magnetize them at this point.
Another plus for knights is they're big, so easier to paint for many folks. Custodes also have a simple paint scheme. Grey knights unfortunately have a bunch of tchochkies on their armor so while base color scheme is grey, they have some fiddly bits to paint around.
I'm so glad i have a 3d printer. I even got a free second one because they messed up my delivery but I ended up tracking it down.
Nothing like taking your astra militarum horde army of 200 metal infantry figs and moving them to one side of the board first turn to flip the table
I play guard. Most of my army is 2nd ed cadians. Was not so pricy back in the 90's. But definitely the most expensive
Got into Warhammer just a couple years back and IMMEDIATLEY jumped into Sisters! Triumph, sanctum, Celestine, vahl, friggin all of it! I thought it felt a bit heavy, BUT THE MODELS ARE SECOND TO NONE! MY God are they all gorgeous and so detailed.
Feels bad that box of metal sisters back in the day were cheaper than a sisters box today.
It's interesting that two of the winningest armies (Custodes and IK) are also two of the cheapest. GW has often appeared to have a pay-to-win approach, with new kits being OP so people are compelled to spend money and get them. Yet Custodes and IK have small model ranges....
Makes me think they made a lot of mistakes writing the rules and had no idea what they were doing, as they seem to accidently made it so you can win well enough without spending a lot of money.
Thank you for this video! I love it, it’s super helpful when thinking about starting an army.
I mean, Ad Mech did get slightly cheaper for new players now that the chicken walkers are 3 max to a squad instead of 6.
why does changing the max squad size effect how cheap the army is to collect? Nothings forcing you to take the max size?
Ilike Nurgle in AoS. Oh, you got 5 models. Yay, 250 points!
Being Mechanicus is suffering
So happy I nabbed 3 x AM Start Collecting kits before our 9th edition codex came out, 3 of them for £45 each is pretty good value!
I’ve said this before in a comment on a previous video, but lots of Nurgle kits have individual Nurglings that I like to put on their own bases and use as Nurgling counts-as; with some creativity in increasing their verticality, of course.
Been waiting for this video 🙏
My local store talked me into a Lancer and some Armigers at a really good discount, so i giess i have a knight army now
I am praying for some sort of range refresh or major update for Dark Eldar. Not because I think their models look bad - I actually think they've held up well -, but because so much of their range is incredibly difficult to get. Vect, Rakarth, lhamaeans, mandrakes, grotesques, beastmasters and beasts, sslyths, and medusaes - all effectively gone. Hell, I think over the last 6 or 7 years, we've only gotten a whopping three releases - and they've all be refreshes.
I've got my Kromlech Stompa for 10€. Best Money I ever spent in 40k
I will never understand GW's hate towards the Stompa. It's one of the most iconic biggun's in the game, and sure, he's tanky af, can transport, and is pretty great in melee, but he is realistically not very fast, abilities aren't great, and his shooting, for all that dakka, sucks
They probably want to keep the Stompa for casual games.
They don't want to deal with the balance nightmare of making a unit that is almost half your army viable but not a must pick.
@@verbugterherrderdunkelheit6086 Then explain why almost every other biggun is less points, and can more or less do the same, if not more, than the Stompa? Like, I get not wanting it to be a huge competitive thing, but 800 points? That's just overkill
@@gavinziozios1431 40k balancing is rarely good. I mean after 40 years you'd think that they know how to do it, especially with the older factions.
@@verbugterherrderdunkelheit6086 Oh, I'm aware. I've played this game for a lot of years now. It's just that GW has this hard-on for bullying the Stompa, despite it being pretty iconic in a good way
With Tyranids, it depends a lot on what specific units you want to play. Some units are quite nicely priced (or are in good value-added box sets), and the leviathan stuff is of course super cheap in terms of points per money right now. Some other units are quite bad in that regards though... which includes some of the currently best units in the army. Zoanthropes are currently at 1.1 points per $, the resin biovores/pyrovores were below 1 pp$ (although the big points hike for biovore remedied that), and who knows how much the new plastic kits are going to cost.
The Start Collecting boxes for 7th/8th/9th were a pretty excellent way to get some important core units at great cost reductions, but those boxes of course don't exist anymore...
I recently got into GKs and while they arent super great at the moment I got 2 CPs, 2 Brother Hood Termies, and Castellan Crowe boxes and I'm DONE at $400 (thats with msrp discount befofe taxes). And if GK does get some point decreases id considere it a fair shake to opt into another CP. Honestly those more expensive armies It sounds like unless you've been in the game for a while, slowly collecting over time. Don't even bother unless you're set enough to do it.
I've said it since the combat patrol box came out, replace the sentinel with a russ and the field ordinance with a HWT, and it'd be a great combat patrol, even if still a little undercosted on points
I'm collecting Tau and AdMech right now I still think I will persist collecting these two for the moment despite them being quite expensive and not very competitive. I really like the look of these armies and their in game lore. I have also thought about getting Chaos Daemons and Aeldari down the line too.
This is the correct attitude.
I'm getting into this game with Orks, which I should focus on, but I 3D printed a bunch of custom Guard as well lol. I'll paint up a Combat Patrol's worth of Guard and see where I go from there...
Many years ago I sat and worked out the statistics for Imperial guard effectiveness (so so many units and guard armies owned it was worth doing if I wanted to do a tournie). I hit on something interesting when I started on fantasy too, and price per model by point. Turns out older GW, 2006 is when I did this so before that, all models (apart from the occasional character) were all nigh on exactly the same price per point. The change was around that time. Even some units were cheaper before but not many. When I started a single plastic bretonnian knight was £2.50 a pop. Even with everything worked out over the editions by the time fantasy ended it was cheaper to buy Bretonnians at the end of fantasy than in 1997. The slip came around 2006 when the points no longer reflected the financial cost. The standard average mid tier army should always cost the same was the policy they dropped. That killed Fantasy very quickly. Now we have videos like this.
Just to add. I'm currently still working on my death guard vraks army. The vast majority are converted or added on to by sculpting. As an option, if you have the skill or know someone who does, you can drop the price significantly by adding nurgle spares (from scrounging and swapping out bitz boxes) and sculpting. That goes for a fair few armies but more so for Nurgle theme.
@@aidancolyer7924I want to make a kreig guardsman army, any tips?
@@Asageun Get a couple of the veteran guardsmen boxes. They have a ton of bits in them that you can use for conversions. If you are okay with third party kits getting a few bodies to bulk out the units (as many as you have weapons for) drops the price right down. With a bit of creativity and greenstuff you can make engineer units (not that they have specific rules but can be used as lasarkin or scions or just normal infantry)kit bashing cadians. The armour plating on them means simpler greenstuff for extending the coat and then a bit of plasticard to extend the cadian flak armour and you can make some nice looking units. For the vehicles look at historical modelling techniques especially WW1 tanks. Adding stowage items to theme helps to bring the army together. Artillery is another easy one. Kreig uses it a lot so you can either enclose the cabs (saves some time and effort) with plasticard or a headswap or two to add crew (basilisks always look better with crew). Third part head packs are really good too. Essentially go for combined arms meaning you have to shell out less for the infantry. What infantry you do have mix and match where you can. For the cavalry look for old Fantasy models and convert too. Again it requires greenstuff but can be fairly easy to pull off and look good. Again use WW1 cavalry pictures as reference. I would also suggest trying to find the images from the imperial armour vraks books for inspiration. The engineers especially. I have thought about this a lot lol. I still have to finish my steel legion army and make my napoleonic guard, that's after I finish my death guard list!
The ork stompa is only good if you toss a mek in it or it blows up in the middle of your enemy’s entire army.
Even then its gonna struggle to make up for 845 points. I've found 2 gorkanauts both with a mek to be much better
@@nunyabusiness7018 oh I totally agree that’s a better points investment. The only time it could be worth it is if that 2d6 deadly demise wiped out 5 units of enemy troops or a few vehicles.
You don't play a Stompa because it's good, you play it for the sheer spectacle of bringing one in the first place.
Dude, spanish speaker here. Your accent is so funny yet so nice to listen that I put this on the background while I do daily stuff just to listen at it, I don't even play warhammer, I just collect the minis, but listening to you is nice! :D
What.
S-tier: 3D printer 🤗🤗
The biggest savings I found with my GSC is just buying old Guardsmen off people and going "they come from a labour camp for prisoners and they raided the prison armoury". If you do that, the Neophyte kits provide a *ton* of value.
I assembled 23 neophytes out of guardsmen, this and 3D printing is the cheapest way to reach the mark of "3 full stacks"
Tempestus scions are the peak rich person army
Wow! I found this video DEEP into a massive self debate on which army I want to start next (can’t be marines I have 2 marine armies) this will make my choice a lil easier. Unfortunately I’m including custodes in marines.
I was thinking of getting back in to the game. And love the haemunculus stuff. But things are really expensive(it seems) are they rumored for new minis/codex anytime soon
Oooh I just watched a very similar vid by PoorHammer Podcast and the data is all really interesting to look at
The way they priced the models, you'd think GW flat out did not want you to buy into Imperial Guard. It's ridiculous.
I'm glad I backed Wargames Atlantic's recent Gamefound campaign for their "The Damned" range of Traitor Guard proxies. (Although the kits will come with "normal" head options, so you can run them as more bedraggled Loyalists, or Savlar Chem-dogs). For $154, between the five box deal and the free backer sprues, I have around 2000 pts of Guard easy. (Although some of the free sprues were "early bird" rewards).
As of this writing, you can still pledge to the campaign to get these, by the way. Again, I was an "early bird", so you might not get quite as many free sprues as I. But that's still almost an entire Guard army (mostly infantry and some cavalry) for the price of a Combat Patrol. Highly recommended, while you still have the chance to late pledge.
EDIT: Actually, if you're going to pledge, here are some tips:
1) Use a box slot for the Terrae Mortis (the APC) if you can, as it's a more expensive kit. The multi-box deals don't care which kit, they cost the same regardless.
2) On that note, DON'T use a slot to get a Command box. Instead, use 2 free sprues on Command sprues, as it's the same number as the box. (This also applies to the Artillery, aka the Field Ordinance Batteries. Grab 2 sprues instead of a box, as that will supply your full unit right there.)
3) If you use a box slot for Outriders (Rough Riders), you get 9 per box. Grab an extra sprue to complete a 10-man set, then use another model to convert into a Lord Solar.
4) Gamefound's UI was not designed for breaking pledge rewards into multiple stacks. The best you can do is split items off into single item stacks. So whether it's the boxes or the sprues, you'll have a lot of single items on your list to accommodate your selections. That's just how it be.
5) The Hounds come with 4 doggos and 2 extra person bodies per sprue. If you get boxes/sprues just to get the dogs, even if you can't use them in a Guard army, you at least get some spare bodies in the deal.
The Emporer needs you!
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Right now I'm building sisters and due to the fact that it's pretty tank heavy right now, I'm buying like 1 kit and paint if I don't have it per check. Biggest problem is the tanks I like go out of stock very fast.
I'm spooling up a Necron army for 10th. Pulled my Indomitus box out of my pile of shame, found another Necron half for just under $200. Then I picked up 3 Doomstalkers. It'll put 2K points on the table. Although I can't speak to how well it will play. I am very excited about how it will look with 3 Doomstalkers and 2 Reanimators. Rule of Cool for the win I say!
The point is if you're clever, patient, and maybe willing to not start with S Tier you CAN field an army for reasonable prices.
There is a balance of like coolness and how many minis you get I suppose. Some people might just like seeing more plastic for their money and seeing a big swarm of stuff on display when they have painted it. If you are more getting it for collecting and painting purposes the points are probably less important.
Absolutely. The video is based on the idea “how expensive is this to get an army going”. If you want to focus mostly on display pieces and artwork, the equation changes a fair bit.
This is how I view my guard army. 90% of my enjoyment of them is painting them. Playing them is all just a bonus.
God, some of admech being less than 1 PPD is so sad (they are the part of the army I want 6 of)
I'm handling the cost of GSC by buying up cheap Imperial Guard plastics on ebay and just painting them as Neophytes with some spare sprue heads mixed in. Much cheaper second hand options than a lot of the other factions, Custodes for example are rarely cheaper than in the 20% discount shops.
Ahhh Admech, the rules suck, the models are expensive, they're a nightmare to paint.....
But at least we got drip.
Knowers know the cheapest is always Orks. Good Supply, can use most GW parts, can use most *any* parts, massively present in secondhand sales.
Armies I currently collect are Ad mech/ dark mech, CSM, CK, old plastic SM BT, LOD version of space wolves, and AOS beastmen... I guess I'm a plastic addict 😆
Funnily enough, my local FLGS still hasn't removed the listings for the old metal sisters. And thanks to GW's price hikes, some of the modern plastic sisters are more expensive than old metal ones.
For example. Old half metal Excorcist was 46 euros back in 2019. New Excorcist now costs 70 euros. And even the Battle Sister Rhino at 50 euros is more expensive than the half metal excorcist. At the start of 2019 a single blister of a heavy weapon sister was 8 euros. So 40 for a squad of 5. Now a retributor squad which contains 5 heavy weapon sisters is 50 euros. (though few months before they went OOP the price of heavy weapon metal sisters were raised to 12 euros.)
I guess Penitent engines got a bit cheaper. Price of the old metal ones was 30 euros for a single one. Now it's 50 euros for pack of two. However the old Penitent Engines were far bigger than the new ones. (one of the few times a new model is smaller). And also generally the price has gone down on your average boltgun sister.
Building and painting my Astra Militarum right now and it certainly is expensive, especially for the infantry kits. I've also fallen to the dark temptation of purchasing the upgrade kits since im collecting Cadians and I just had to have bayonets, gas masks and a wider variety of limbs, heads, details and poses. Tanks work out cheaper, but if you want infantry then the place to look might be Wargames Atlantic. I've stuck to GW sculpts but the value for money is getting worse all the time with GW, but I trust the quality of their plastic products, as well as the aesthetic design.
Bayonets are unnecessary, if a guardsmen gets into hand to hand combat the Emperors holy shovels are all they need.
DG didn't appear in Imperium, they appeared in Conquest. Necrons appeared in Imperium.
Maybe better to say appeared in Hatchette Partworks weekly collector magazines sometimes at incredible discounts. Necron Royal Court: £70 from GW, £9 from Magazine.
The worst part for admech is the box of 2 armigers. 4x the wounds and rules for less than a single ironstrider.
I was a little upset only coming in 3rd with gsc, but got the winning team with guards 😅 I'll have to agree with the result, once your hooked on collecting vehicles it starts adding up, then there's the infantry horde option my 150 guardsmen need doubling at least
I really want to make a kreig army. I feel as though I'm going to be in the same boat as you
I'm convincing myself a 2nd set of troops with a different colour scheme will be better than starting an airwing and sion section...lol although maybe i need 2 more baneblades and rogal dorns 1st so they are full squads 😉
I’ve started the hobbie during Covid and didn’t knew about finecast, what wasn’t my surprise when I got my mandrakes, those finecasted models are not fine at all
I just paid close to $300 for two Crusader Squads, two Sword Brethren squads, a few paints and basing materials. Ouch!!!! But with my other Space Marines, I guess I play Templars now? So that's good.
This is insanely helpful to beginners but my only nitpick is that you missed the opportunity to normalize the range from 1/10 to 10/0. After all, you covered all the armies therefore there's no reason to start at 3 and end at 9. But that's just my OCD talking.
It seems we are not including the T'au Manta 😅
Love the channel.
But I can't watch a whole long video on this, so I comment to help the algorithm.
I managed to get 80 cadian shock troops ( old models) for my ig army for really cheap. Still the backbone of my collection
Excellent rundown. BUT.. since these must be painted, I think some need adjusting if you take this into consideration too. Necrons would be substantially in cost and time than chaos space marines for example.
I don’t consider that because that’s a separate hobby to me, and one I honestly enjoy more than playing the game. I love the painting of the models.
Painting is only as expensive as you make it. And it can be made more expensive than necessary even for things like Necrons if you so desire
I'm just glad we don't get special weapons in blister packs. We'd be pushing £20quid for a 6point model
I would love to see a 30k version of this!
Solar aux hands down the most expensive
Well... Buying them second hand would be an entire different video with space marines, orks, Tyranids and Necron being the cheapest.
As a guard player that likes hordes were use to shit value but this combat patrol is great, although a tank troop box would also be nice, more value boxes would definitely help me part with more money
I can’t believe they don’t sell a combat patrol with a Leman Russ. It’s the THE iconic guard. Tank+hoard of guardsmen.
I want to point out, that if you try to stay relevant to the meta, then collecting space marines is the most expensive army there is.
Damn idk sisters would be up there haha, but if your new try getting a box or 2 only once a paycheck then build the army slowly😊
Thank God my friend has a 3D printer as I have decided to jump into the hobby with the Guard as my first Army.
One caveat for Thousand Sons is if you want anything outside the core infantry blocks, though that might just be because GW is bad at restocking stuff that is now good (read: Vortex Beast)
Another beautiful day in the guard
I think GW should change its way of building boxes for numerous armies, put 20 boyz or 20 cadians in one box even though it’s two separated units. Keep the 10 for the elites, and don’t or rarely do 5/3 for those armies.
Someone needs to post a points per gram of resin calc for printed armies.
Third party is the way to go for guard infantry. When it takes 100 dollars to get 130 points of models on the board it's not worth it. Wargames Atlantic is the way to go. Paid 90 for 555 points of guardsman.
Hey Auspex! I think it'd be very interesting for a video comparing the costs of Warhammer 40,000 to other hobbies, as it's something I often discuss with friends.
I.e., going to the cinema can cost £10-15 pounds just for a 2-3 hour film (not including snacks) and golf clubs and access to golf courses can be several hundreds to a thousand. Really though, what's not expensive these days, and no one hobby is 'worth more' than any other, but it'd be facnisating to see where WH40K compares if you did something like an average years spend on different hobbies by their average fan.
So here’s the problem with doing that….
There’s a huge range of what a hobby costs depending on how “serious” someone takes it. It’s very hard to define “typical” hobby costs.
For example, a video gamer may need the latest greatest and that means a new console every 4 years plus $60-70 games a pop. Or they play the same older console for a decade and collect games secondhand at a slower rate.
A casual MTG player probably spends about $50-100 and starts playing. A “serious” MTG player makes a 40K player blush.
The only reason we have any metric for 40K is we can say “entry level cost” for a 2k list because that’s measurable. Otherwise we’ve got folks who don’t play but collect slowly and we have crazy people who own so many armies
If you want to find out how it compares with other hobbies, ask your friends what they’ve spent both to “get started” and “to continue” then you all sort of do the math. Just my opinion
I currently collect 5 armies (necrons, sm, sororitas, tyranids because of leviathan and custodes) and I've managed to spend less than 200€ on each because of discount boxes/deals. The imperium magazine, 2nd hand purchases, black Friday deals, battleforces and combat patrols have all been essential for me to amass such amount of plastic. You can have a very tight budget and still play most factions. Not all, granted, but for the most part spending 2k €|$ on an army should be a last resource, unless of course you're meta chasing or have a lot of disposable income. For me though, I work part time and don't make a lot, but can still enjoy a ton of armies. And if that wasn't enough, I recently got a 3d printer and now the world's at arms reach.😅 Just remember not too hoard too much plastic since it can be overwhelming to paint later on!
And to wrap it up, the thing I was originally going to say: each time I see your combat patrol videos, I get an urge to get the GSC one. It just looks so much fun to paint, and has so many models!
I just bought 9 boxes of Krieg, 3 Chimeras, 3 Leman Russes, 10 horses, 2 sentinels, and one heavy weapons box. I’ll kitbash the characters like a Marshall, psyker, Sly Marbo, and the rest of the heavy weapons to make one box into 3 full teams. It was expensive, even buying 3rd party. 😢
Most models are between 1-2 points per dollar in australia and it is pain
one of the cheapest second-hand armies is the Print Death Guard, for example, I bought 1PBC, 1MPH, 2 Drone, 2 CD, 10 BL, 6 DS, 4 Characters and 5 Possesed for 75 Euro. That's not all, because the price also included many more moreover, the ability to create and convert unique miniature designs to the glory of Grandpa Nurgle.
As a ork and Astra militarum player. I can confirm my wallet crys when I get near it.