Not just a rebrand. EcoPower engineers redesigned the User Interface to be easier to use and easier to understand what's going on during the charging. We also redesigned the case to look cooler (in our opinion). 😎
I love seeing a smart option that also will work on any charger or with any battery. I loathe proprietary batteries that don't play well with regular chargers and vice versa. This look like you have the major sizes and everything avialable and very convenient in case you find the need to charge on something else or not need multiple chargers to take of all your cars! Great job Amain!!!
I have the gens ace imars300. This is based on that but this one looks like the user interface is a little more user friendly.. My gens ace is a great charger. This looks like a great choice for the eco power batteries and any battery you have.
Seems like a great system and really like that the smart system is built into the balance lead. Yes, probably a reworked Gens Ace but I really don't care and customer service with AMain is top notch. However, I do think that you should disclose that this is your house brand so, viewers are aware of that. Thanks for the vid 👍
Chargers have come a long way. I still remember one of my first chargers the turbo35. Thing was massive compared to those and you still needed a giant external power supply. Im super impressed with the dual charger.
I use the imars 300 here in the states. Great charger. This looks to have a more user friendly interface. Hopefully it functions just as well as the gens ace.
Good to see another option out there, though this one looks suspiciously like another fantastic charger.. d300 to be exact! Beard’s looking sharp, Brett!
Small correction.... The Traxxas iD connector may be proprietary, but at least you can use an adapter so it can be used with a 'regular' balance charger, unlike Spectrum. And on these as well as the GenAce system, if you don't use the Intelligent feature, will it still keep track of charge cycles?
Great question! We designed the User Interface to be easier to use and also easier to see what's going on. Also, it is backed by AMain since EcoPower is an AMain owned brand. We also redesigned the case and think it looks cooler! 😜
@@EcoPowerRC The small one looks identical to the gens ace branded one. . almost like they made it for eco power. I say that because I have the small gins Ace one, and it's crap It never worked right from the get-go so it's just laying in the corner of my RC pile
Hey I would love to see the external discharge function being used in a video - I have read that you plug lipo to be discharged into the DC input in the back then add an external resistor / heat sync in the front to dissipate the heat and work at higher amps. I just haven’t seen it used and would really appreciate seeing it! Discharging 8000mah 4s packs when something breaks or I don’t get to run takes about 4.5hrs at ~2A which is nice but still a long time! Thanks 🎉
All I want is a charger that has a discharging capability that can bring down a fully charged battery in a few minutes, instead of several hours. That would be nice.
That’s all gtec technology lol. It literally has a g right on the plug like Gens Ace. That’s an Imars D300! This is clearly just rebranded Gens Ace stuff. It’s all really really good stuff. Question is are they compatible with each other? The UI does look a little different. But I’m not sure.
@@EcoPowerRC Well as a gens Ace owner , you chose a great product to rebrand and make your own. If it performs like the original then I would highly recommend ecopowerrc
I can't buy one of those, so smart they may take over my home and start asking for the car keys and a credit card, already have 3 of those in the house and they're all I can handle right now! But thanks for the FYI👍
good looking menu on the pro charger, those are pretty much the only stats i want to see when i'm charging. looks like you guys are aiming them well at best sellers in the horizon/amain brand. i understand how hard it is to compete with the chinese market on amazon but almost $100 for a 5000mah 4S 50c smart pack? zeee, socokin, and hoovo are selling TWO 6200-6600mah 100-120c batteries for the cost of 1 ecopower smart battery. that smart technology just isn't worth the price difference to me. if you want to play the "chinese battery bad" game, these sellers are very generous with warranty claims and ive ended up with better replacements sometimes. there's no way i'm buying a name brand battery when it comes to 10,000mah 4S batteries, that would end up costing me $3-400 easily. and running a 5000mah pack on a 8th scale or 5th scale sucks, you get maybe 13 minutes of run time.
Remember though, that the specs on those Chinese batteries are often exaggerated, sometimes greatly exaggerated so, that deal may not be as good as it seems. Personally, I have no interest in Smart battery systems but I do think there is something to be said for brand name batteries. Remember that, even when a Chinese company makes the battery for a North American brand, it's the testing and cycling of the batteries that you're paying for. There's a reason some 2s race packs are $200 (or more). I know that may not matter to you, or a lot of other people, but its something to keep in mind.
First, is obvious the actual OEM is Gens Ace, and that's a VERY good thing. A combination of Gens Ace quality, and Amain customer service, means you can't go wrong. Now the 'bad' news...I'm HIGHLY questioning the "intelligent" side of things. No one else seems to have noticed that the chargers have XT60 connectors...yet, for whatever reason, with the exception of 3 batteries, ALL of the other batteries shown have Spektrum-style EC3 connectors. What's up with that??? The 'smart' pin on the balance connector is only for reading data, so that the smart charger can automatically set the proper settings. The charging, itself, is still done through the standard connector. So, WHY would Amain want to have the batteries with EC3 connectors?
Our current Intelligent batteries and bundles have either PH2.0, EC2, EC3, and EC5 connectors depending on the battery and are aimed at covering ARRMA, Axial, Losi, and ProBoat brand RC's (Horizon).
@EcoPowerRC Except, again, the chargers have XT60 ports. So the chargers come with adapter cables? Or do people have to purchase those separate? As adapter cables will be needed.
I have some Gens Ace versions I bought for my son and while they work superbly, the smart connector is too short and cumbersome compared to Spektrum, which the system I prefer. They may be proprietary but they are superb and batteries have several programming options including self store and store voltage.
I never understood the point of getting a smart charger and NOT use smart batteries. I can still charge non smart batteries with my Spektrum charger. Why would you ever purchase a smart battery without already owning a smart charger! Thats just stupid!
Funny how most of everyone hates on spektrum smart tec , now all these companies are copying it. Time to lawyer up Horizon hobby !! Id go after Traxxas first ;-)
Not just a rebrand. EcoPower engineers redesigned the User Interface to be easier to use and understand what's going on during the charging. We also redesigned the case to look cooler (in our opinion). 😎
I'm not a battery snob or anything, but LCO batteries are really the only cost effective lipos. After 7 months my Zeee and Ovonic lipos that were putting out 9000 mah, now have degraded to 4000 mah. LMO batteries don't save you money in the long run. My cheap batteries cost half the price of SMC, but now they put out half the amps, so it's pointless. Don't cheap out on batteries. It doesn't pay off. Most lipos use lithium manganese oxide (so-called "Graphene batteries) which rapidly degrades, resulting in long(ish) term dropoff of capacity SMC uses the high quality Lithium Cobalt Oxide, which is why they cost more. Worth every penny. I'm not a battery snob, but on my 15 pound Kagama, anything under a true 100C discharge and i get voltage sag leading to perceived LVC by the ESC, causing shutdown. I'm not meaning to be rude, but personally, I'd trade battery longevity and reliability over ease of use any day. I'm not really interested in smart batteries if they don't use LCO. Maybe I'm a little bit of a battery snob. I'd just not rather lose 40% capacity in under a year. Your mileage may vary.
Man finally an open standard this is awesome
I’m pretty sure this is just gens ace stuff rebranded and the smart connection moved to the balance port
The more and more I look at this I don’t care who makes it. If the batteries are good this is a good dam deal.
It absolutely is. Not that it’s a bad thing by any means, but it’s an iMars D300.
Not just a rebrand. EcoPower engineers redesigned the User Interface to be easier to use and easier to understand what's going on during the charging. We also redesigned the case to look cooler (in our opinion). 😎
@@EcoPowerRC I did notice that the UI looked different!
@@EcoPowerRC yeah I agree the more I read, the more I liked it.
Ah oh 😂 spektrum can't be happy .....these are awesome!
Yes sir, we need an AMAIN store in Europe. BTW great Video
With fully open systems and cross compatibility this is a really useful new combo ❤
I love seeing a smart option that also will work on any charger or with any battery. I loathe proprietary batteries that don't play well with regular chargers and vice versa. This look like you have the major sizes and everything avialable and very convenient in case you find the need to charge on something else or not need multiple chargers to take of all your cars! Great job Amain!!!
I have the gens ace imars300. This is based on that but this one looks like the user interface is a little more user friendly.. My gens ace is a great charger. This looks like a great choice for the eco power batteries and any battery you have.
Seems like a great system and really like that the smart system is built into the balance lead. Yes, probably a reworked Gens Ace but I really don't care and customer service with AMain is top notch. However, I do think that you should disclose that this is your house brand so, viewers are aware of that. Thanks for the vid 👍
Chargers have come a long way. I still remember one of my first chargers the turbo35. Thing was massive compared to those and you still needed a giant external power supply. Im super impressed with the dual charger.
Looks like the gens ace charger everyone is using here in Germany.
But the interface seems to be new.
A super silent fan would be nice.
I use the imars 300 here in the states. Great charger. This looks to have a more user friendly interface. Hopefully it functions just as well as the gens ace.
Good to see another option out there, though this one looks suspiciously like another fantastic charger.. d300 to be exact!
Beard’s looking sharp, Brett!
Loving the beard My G 🧔♂️!!!
Please do a track series on the new groms. I want to see a Mojave grom with sway bars absolutely rip up a dirt track
Small correction.... The Traxxas iD connector may be proprietary, but at least you can use an adapter so it can be used with a 'regular' balance charger, unlike Spectrum. And on these as well as the GenAce system, if you don't use the Intelligent feature, will it still keep track of charge cycles?
Smart batteries are identified by a unique code so, no, I dont expect this will track how many cycles for a non-smart battery.
This looks great!
What’s up with the MJ gloves?😂
Awesome chargers and batteries.
🤘🏼🤘🏼
That storage function is killer. I hate when chargers don’t have storage mode
Why would one choose this over the same Gens Ace product at the same price?
Great question! We designed the User Interface to be easier to use and also easier to see what's going on. Also, it is backed by AMain since EcoPower is an AMain owned brand. We also redesigned the case and think it looks cooler! 😜
The real question is why would any non-shill want to use Traxxas or Spektrum products for a premium price.
@@EcoPowerRC The small one looks identical to the gens ace branded one. . almost like they made it for eco power. I say that because I have the small gins Ace one, and it's crap It never worked right from the get-go so it's just laying in the corner of my RC pile
Ok Bret, all these things are great, but you didn't mention when will AMAIN HOBBIES open a store in Europe :)
Hey I would love to see the external discharge function being used in a video - I have read that you plug lipo to be discharged into the DC input in the back then add an external resistor / heat sync in the front to dissipate the heat and work at higher amps. I just haven’t seen it used and would really appreciate seeing it! Discharging 8000mah 4s packs when something breaks or I don’t get to run takes about 4.5hrs at ~2A which is nice but still a long time! Thanks 🎉
Must be good if it’s getting the “white glove” treatment!🎉
You added ten years with the beard. 😂😂 Had you not done that it was as if you were never going to age. 🤣🤣
does the lipos smarts work with the gens ace chargers?
Yes, G-Tech batteries will work with EcoPower Intelligent chargers, and EcoPower Intelligent batteries will work with G-Tech smart chargers.
Sounds great, are they available in the UK ?
I have a UDR with a XT90 conversation will these packs fit in the UDR????
Our biggest included connectors on our batteries are XT60.
That thumbnail tho. lol
Cheers from the UK!
So it's like Spektrum stuff? I like my spektrum batteries and chargers a lot.
Sweet.. basically a Gen Aces D300 made better.. ordered and thanks Amain for the 15% deal.
Now i have a beast to charge my 6s
To be honest I was expecting a review of Marcellus Wallace’s soul
“WHAT DOES MARCELLUS WALLACE LOOK LIKE!?”😂
So technically, since the chip is in the balance plug, I can turn any battery into a smart battery
All I want is a charger that has a discharging capability that can bring down a fully charged battery in a few minutes, instead of several hours. That would be nice.
ISDT makes dedicated dischargers that do this.
go amain! yeah!
Looks pretty good. Question is are the gens ace chargers compatible with the smart function of the eco power batteries?
Yes
Gens ace version is cheaper no?
Similar, if not the same price.
Great vidrp
That’s all gtec technology lol. It literally has a g right on the plug like Gens Ace.
That’s an Imars D300!
This is clearly just rebranded Gens Ace stuff. It’s all really really good stuff. Question is are they compatible with each other?
The UI does look a little different. But I’m not sure.
Yes, compatible with G-Tech and EcoPower made our own User Interface.
@@EcoPowerRC Well as a gens Ace owner , you chose a great product to rebrand and make your own. If it performs like the original then I would highly recommend ecopowerrc
i might just get one
Greys..we getting old.😂❤️
😍🙌
I like the internal resistance reading but when you plugged the battery, i didnt see it showing anything. How do you bring it up?
The battery details are shown when you click into the individual channel view instead of the dual channel view.
It's a renamed/rebrand Gens Ace g-tech batteries.
Yes! One more standard. There are so few standards allready.
Not a new standard since this is the same as G-Tech, which has been around for a while.
What is ecp 3137 ? Just a stock # ?
Yeah, part number
Will it charge NIMH batteries? That's all I use on my crawlers. I have a venom charger but it's... meh!
No
Why are the 4s packs labeled as 3s voltage?...lol
Someone made a boo boo.
-Brett
Tires tires tires 😂
I can't buy one of those, so smart they may take over my home and start asking for the car keys and a credit card, already have 3 of those in the house and they're all I can handle right now! But thanks for the FYI👍
good looking menu on the pro charger, those are pretty much the only stats i want to see when i'm charging. looks like you guys are aiming them well at best sellers in the horizon/amain brand. i understand how hard it is to compete with the chinese market on amazon but almost $100 for a 5000mah 4S 50c smart pack? zeee, socokin, and hoovo are selling TWO 6200-6600mah 100-120c batteries for the cost of 1 ecopower smart battery. that smart technology just isn't worth the price difference to me. if you want to play the "chinese battery bad" game, these sellers are very generous with warranty claims and ive ended up with better replacements sometimes. there's no way i'm buying a name brand battery when it comes to 10,000mah 4S batteries, that would end up costing me $3-400 easily. and running a 5000mah pack on a 8th scale or 5th scale sucks, you get maybe 13 minutes of run time.
Remember though, that the specs on those Chinese batteries are often exaggerated, sometimes greatly exaggerated so, that deal may not be as good as it seems. Personally, I have no interest in Smart battery systems but I do think there is something to be said for brand name batteries. Remember that, even when a Chinese company makes the battery for a North American brand, it's the testing and cycling of the batteries that you're paying for. There's a reason some 2s race packs are $200 (or more). I know that may not matter to you, or a lot of other people, but its something to keep in mind.
First, is obvious the actual OEM is Gens Ace, and that's a VERY good thing. A combination of Gens Ace quality, and Amain customer service, means you can't go wrong.
Now the 'bad' news...I'm HIGHLY questioning the "intelligent" side of things. No one else seems to have noticed that the chargers have XT60 connectors...yet, for whatever reason, with the exception of 3 batteries, ALL of the other batteries shown have Spektrum-style EC3 connectors. What's up with that??? The 'smart' pin on the balance connector is only for reading data, so that the smart charger can automatically set the proper settings. The charging, itself, is still done through the standard connector. So, WHY would Amain want to have the batteries with EC3 connectors?
Our current Intelligent batteries and bundles have either PH2.0, EC2, EC3, and EC5 connectors depending on the battery and are aimed at covering ARRMA, Axial, Losi, and ProBoat brand RC's (Horizon).
@EcoPowerRC Except, again, the chargers have XT60 ports. So the chargers come with adapter cables? Or do people have to purchase those separate? As adapter cables will be needed.
Adapters are included @ninthislandrc
Needs anti sparking connectors
I have some Gens Ace versions I bought for my son and while they work superbly, the smart connector is too short and cumbersome compared to Spektrum, which the system I prefer. They may be proprietary but they are superb and batteries have several programming options including self store and store voltage.
SO GLAD I still run Nitro. F all that noise. How much are those batteries a piece?
I don't know. People just buy cheap batteries usually. 20 to 30 bucks a piece.
I never understood the point of getting a smart charger and NOT use smart batteries. I can still charge non smart batteries with my Spektrum charger. Why would you ever purchase a smart battery without already owning a smart charger! Thats just stupid!
Funny how most of everyone hates on spektrum smart tec , now all these companies are copying it. Time to lawyer up Horizon hobby !! Id go after Traxxas first ;-)
The charger looks good, not sure about the batteries, only 5000 mah 4s? My Xmaxx would eat that in 8 mins.
So it’s just a rebranded gen’s ace gtech set up??
Not just a rebrand. EcoPower engineers redesigned the User Interface to be easier to use and understand what's going on during the charging. We also redesigned the case to look cooler (in our opinion). 😎
@ I’ll admit…it does look pretty awesome. And I see the actual GUI is different as well. Is it compatible with the Gens Ace gtech balance plug?
@@thatrandombikeguy Yes, definitely.
Its just a D300 rebranded an its more expensive
This is literally just a rebranded gens ace system with a custom firmware...
Thusly, its better.
-Brett
I assume the self balance option is patented
I'm not a battery snob or anything, but LCO batteries are really the only cost effective lipos. After 7 months my Zeee and Ovonic lipos that were putting out 9000 mah, now have degraded to 4000 mah.
LMO batteries don't save you money in the long run. My cheap batteries cost half the price of SMC, but now they put out half the amps, so it's pointless.
Don't cheap out on batteries. It doesn't pay off. Most lipos use lithium manganese oxide (so-called "Graphene batteries) which rapidly degrades, resulting in long(ish) term dropoff of capacity
SMC uses the high quality Lithium Cobalt Oxide, which is why they cost more.
Worth every penny.
I'm not a battery snob, but on my 15 pound Kagama, anything under a true 100C discharge and i get voltage sag leading to perceived LVC by the ESC, causing shutdown.
I'm not meaning to be rude, but personally, I'd trade battery longevity and reliability over ease of use any day.
I'm not really interested in smart batteries if they don't use LCO.
Maybe I'm a little bit of a battery snob.
I'd just not rather lose 40% capacity in under a year. Your mileage may vary.