I got one of these on this recommendation - it’s fantastic. Love all the settings, voltage ranges for everything, built in cell ports, even calibrate the two channels for perfect cell balancing. I have other GensAce stuff, it’s all good.
Hitec X2 Plus Black Edition is still my Favorite in that price Range! Its has some great features. Talks out loud, Bluetooth, an App. 😀 Has some dummy proof safety features. Automatically slow charges a low discharged lipo until it gets back into the acceptable range and then cranks amps back up...other chargers you have to manually charger low discharged lipo on Nihm to bring to life and then charge normal.
A lot of Hitek is just rebranded Chinese products. Chinese manufacturing can be the best quality since all charger even the top of the line $500 chargers are made in China
I also bought a HOTA D6 Pro several years ago, it cost about the same price, it's also a 300 watt charger. I wish Amain had been selling that charger at the time, I only knew about it because I stumbled upon it. This was back when the Venom Duo Pro was all the rage even though it cost more and could only charge 150 watts.
Great video! Much appreciated!! If I didn't already have the Hota S6 (400w/$160=40cents/watt) I'd be all over the Gens 300watt charger.. maybe I need a backup? LOL! Keep up the great content Brett!! BTW, Kudos to Gens Tattu for the the G-tech technology, revolutionary!! I see they are now offering G-tech equipped 4s packs. I didn't realize the G-tech balance plug is compatible w/JST equipped chargers, awesome!!
OK, OK! Didn't know there was a new one. Picked up an iMars Dual last year when they were on sale at my local hobby shop. Great charger. Great batteries. Getting this smart one now. Honestly, didn't know. I bypassed it several times because it looks so much like the the Dual.
I bought the dual myself a couple of months ago but days before the released of the new version and I just wasn't going to send mine back and go through all of that. There should have been something on amain website that there was a new one being released I would have held off and got the new one.
The toolkit M6D is a damn good charger for the money as well. 2 channels each at 250 watts or 15 amps per channel- or sync them up to charge at 25 amps. 80 bucks. Awesome bang for the buck. Bought mine through Amain as well.
I’ve got an M6D and I really need to start taking it to the field it’s so much more compact than what I normally lug with me, I just need to bring adapters for non XT-60 batteries. I’ve been liking my ISDT q6 so much as my “big” charger but the M6D actually puts out more if you share the channels.
For real, they want everyone charging lipo, cell phones, tablets or cells for flashlights super fast. Only kills them quicker and has you buying more sooner.
I have a Primal charger that came in a lot of parts i bought. It does both NiMh and lipo batteries and it works phenomenal. It wasnt expensive when it was new either. I also have the traxxas id charger for my traxxas id batteries and it works great.
You can give it more power with DC PSU correct? What are people running for DC on these? Can I buy a DC PSU for this somewhere? Ebay maybe? I think the AC power is great when moving around, compact etc but at home I wouldn't mind upping it's power with a DC PSU for my larger lipo packs.
i have SkyRC D100 V2 2X100W. And Spektrum S2100 bought from the second hand. Im using almost only 2S bullet batteries for 4S system. When i want to charge 2x2S batteries, S2100 is able to charge 12A per channel and 9000mAH batteries are fully charged in 25 minutes from storage voltage. SkyRC seems similar on the paper, but it can manage only 5-6A per one channel on 2S. And it is often much slower about 2A. So paper values are one thing and real usage is the second.
Gtech sounds interesting but I still like the Spektrum batteries for the detailed logs stored on the battery chip, telemetry back to a Spektrum radio for voltage, temperature etc, fault logs, charge cycles and programmable self storage discharging if you forget to use it. The older Gen1 S2100 is extremely compact and easy to travel with.
Yeah it’s ISDT battgo rebranded for Spektrum. Spektrum did integrate the battery info nicely though into their transmitter telemetry like individual cell voltages without having to any additional sensors.
@@hayes4424 If you have a Spektrum radio and electronics it will transmit battery voltage, individual cell voltage, temperature, amperage draw, min/max from the model back to your tx screen. The battery also self records how many charge cycles it has had as well as any faults such as overheating, overcharging, over discharging. It also will self discharge automatically down to 3.8 volts per cell after a set amount of days if you forget and leave it in charged state. Both of these parameters are programmable by the end user.
I’m a DC guy. My charger of choice is the ISDT Q6 Nano. 100w for $40, or 200w if you run on 24v, & I currently use 5 on a 12v supply. I would absolutely not recommend running DC for your first setup, and if you want to go bigger than I’d definitely say the d300 is a good starter choice.
I like my isdt Q8, but I prefer the ToolkitRC M6D for the price and performance. 2 channels and 500watts is about as good as it gets for the price. Look for the DC version.
@@slick2500 yea they really should’ve just made it two independent buttons. I’m pretty sure that’s what it is underneath and the charge start is just holding both. I’ve been able to use them well enough though that I don’t mind for the price.
Literally just bought my first charger from you guys 2 days ago after borrowing one for a few months. Looks like this one is definitely better than the hi tech one I ordered
@@AidanMorris It is an awesome charger you bought! I own a few, you have to remember this is a marketing video...The Hitec has a ton more features! Talking and Bluetooth are my favorites
That's a really nice charger. I just bought the hi-tech black edition & like that as well. But again your locked in with their battery system & the price of their batteries.
I❤️the HiTec X2 Black Edition I have a few of them and they get the job done. None have died. They have some dummy proof features that add safety. They also automatically slow charge when voltage in a lipo is super low well beyond lipo discharge specs...and will safely slow charge until in range and then go full speed. It talks to say your batteries are done.
Spektrum S2100 Dual IC5 Charger all the way for me. Im a Arrma / Spektrum fanboy I guess. I find the stuff works as intended, and have batteries 5 years old, still pumping out bashing smiles for me and my sons.
I bought 2 400w chargers and im happy with this buy. I can charge my 6 4s 7000mah lipos in 70-80 min and my 6 3s 5000mah lipos in under an hour. Can't complaine about it and will buy it again or an newer version of it if released. I used to charge my lipos with 3 same chargers with 200w each and it took me longer to charge then my 2 chargers with 400w each. The new chargers save me about an hour charge time with the same lipos so im happy. Never underestimate the time saving with a good charger and dont save on it if u want your lipos charged fast. Good video like always, really like your channel and your style doing videos. Greetings from Austria!
I have two of these bad boys just got into the rc car hobby waiting on my car to come in the battery's and charger came in first lol ended up with the dbxl -e 2.0 wanted to go big lol wonder how long before I crash
Why am I just now hearing about this? I currently have all Traxxas vehicles and while I don’t mind the Traxxas connector, I don’t like being locked into Traxxas batteries. I do have some Texas connector I can install on other batteries but then I lose the smart functionality which I really want to keep! I think imma have to look into this stuff because this looks like it mostly solves all my issues.
Guys STOP buying brands proprietary batteries and chargers! Just let the few newbies buy them and starve the companies doing the money grab of your money. Also they’re extremely easy to bypass to use any charger.
Seriously, there is no need for any of that stuff. It's really not hard to learn how to care for and maintain batteries. The only thing anybody should be using is a standard charger like the D300, with bullets or XT60/XT90 connectors. Proprietary connectors are 100% designed to stop you from observing the health of the battery and lock you into buying more proprietary junk. Traxxas, for example, really doesn't want you to check the IR of their packs, or monitor the balance. Fishy.
“Money grab” is such a stupid concept. Everyone wants money. No one does anything for free. If there is money to be grabbed, you would grab the money too.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe Way to make excuses for the greedy. If it was me, I would just offer quality products engineered to last, and perform, at competitive prices. Then I would accept whatever share of the market that got me. You know, kinda like how things used to be, back when things were expected to be worth their price. But if you'd rather be aggressively marketed to by greedy corporations with overpriced, underperforming products that needlessly force you into a constrained ecosystem solely for the purpose of limiting your alternatives in order to preserve their ability to keep extracting more and more money from you in exchange for constantly decreasing quality, then I guess you do you. Someone has to buy the crap.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe it’s definitely a money grab. Look at these car companies charging you to be able to use the remote start and heated seats now. It’s like if you bought a Ford but can only buy approved Ford gas for twice the price. It went from all vehicles being able to go to any gas station to not. RCs used to be able to use any battery and chargers charged any battery. I mean they still do but now you have to do extra steps if you want to. Most new people surely have to be turned off by buying these proprietary batteries for 2-4x the price of other lipos.
This is like people complaining that an apple watch doesn't work with android lmao, imagine some random telling others "GUYS STOP BUYING IPHONES" make your own phones or buy android!, they all have their pros and cons, after 5 universal chargers, for me the traxxas charger is the best one I have ever had and I can afford paying extra for the convenience of clicking a button and dealing with balance connectors, so it is a big +1 from me.
Industry standard is the way to go. Proprietary connnector and chip are definitely proprietary. Think about that camera/phone/electronic with some sort of proprietary connector. Sitting in the drawer because its not compatible with anything. Make it an industry standard that negligibly impact price and then well talk.
I've been saying this for years, we need a standardized plug for charging and the balance lead needs to be integrated into the main not it's own separate plug. But this will never happen because of the big names in the industry like Traxxas and Horizon wanting their own tech. ISDT actually tried to get everyone to switch over to their Battgo system a few years ago but it flopped as no one jumped on board with them, that same tech is what Horizon uses in their Spektrum Smart chargers and batteries. From what I remember Spektrum has an exclusive deal with ISDT now and they are the only ones who can use it........................................
I have a little cheap 50W Prophet mini sport from Horizon Hobby, It's 2 - 4S capable and 1 - 4amps, With 3 batteries I can pretty much fly all day using that one 30 dollar charger lol
I have a cheap 200w that'll let me charge my 4s batteries at 5a if I charge both or 10a if I'm doing one at a time. Awesome little charger that can have my cars up and running in less than an hour no matter which I want to drive
They should make balance lead connectors with a blank programmable board inside where you could install it on any battery and the first time you plug it up it asks you for the battery details and saves it to the chip.
It is easy to calculate the voltage a charger will charge at. The formula is Wattage divided by volage. So take your 6 cell lipo, nominal volage 22.2 volte divided into the wattage 300w. 300/22.2 = 13.51amps. So if you know what the nominal voltage of you pack and the wattage of the charger you can solve for top charging amps. If the charger says it will only charge up to X voltage and that is lower, then is is not using all the wattage because it is limited by the weakest component in the charger. They don't want to be sued if it catches fire.
I just bought my second htrc 400w 1-6s battery charger last night it’s was $98 I had the earlier generation one it was 150w I believe for $70 and don’t get mad at me a main! I ordered a pile of parts from you guys to 😂
Haha, it's all good. But take note: the T400 is 400W on DC power and only 200W on AC power (the naming is misleading). That equals out to 49 cents per watt - more expensive than the D300. -Brett
I'll stick to my Hota D6 Pro. It has a 1.6A balance circuit, meaning once in balance mode, it'll finish the cycle a lot faster. Plus it's cheaper. The reason nobody is buying this is there are better chargers out there for the money. Amain just doesn't sell them.
Hota s6 here, 1.6a balance current is hard to beat for an ac/DC charger. The imars d300 has 1.2a which isn't bad compared to most chargers, but like you said the hota will balance much faster.
I have the D6 pro, it worked well for few months, but lately it started making problems during the balance. It just takes a lot of time to complete balancing.
HTRC T400 Pro is better than most other chargers on the market that I can see - the fact that you can save "templates" of your common batteries and charge jobs is awesome... Now just to find one in the US...
I have an electron pro and it charges all batteries, from gens ace to tatu, 2s to 6s . takes a minute but if the battery is storage charged it takes less .
@@markg7030I actually really like the EZ Peak Dual, it's got 8a at 100w on one channel and 4a on two channels. I'm poor at the moment so I use that charger for my 2wd Modified buggy, does the job and I got it for free a while ago
Hi, what is your opinion of the Spektrum S2200 G2 AC 2x200W Smart Charger? I know it's costly but I really like the idea of getting rid of that balance lead.
It's a nice charger and the Spektrum Smart system is really convenient for worry-free charging. It is a little more costly but it's definitely recommended. -Brett
@@thebirdman99 as I understand it, it is exclusive to spektrum and ISDT isn’t allowed to ship battgo enabled chargers anymore. I’ve bought newer isdt chargers that advertise battgo and don’t ship with despite advertising it
Ok I have this D300 I just bought a RC10B7 from Amain. I'm trying to figure out which connector I need to charge Gens Ace shorty batteries. Been out of the game for about 35-37 years so things have changed a lot. I bought a couple of slashes this spring and now I want to get back into racing.
Assuming your shorty uses bullet connectors, you will need something like this: www.amainhobbies.com/lrp-2s-lipo-charge-balance-lead-xt60-to-4-5mm-bullet-connector-600mm-lrp499104/p1557318 -Brett
Everyone keeps saying you can only charge traxxas batteries with the traxxas charger but I have a few different batteries and I charge all of them on my traxxas chargers all you need is adapters which is what you would need for any charger
I’ve got gens ace basher 4s 11000mah 14.8v. So with what your mentioning this the best bang for the buck dual changer my batteries? I also will be getting a few other pairs of gens 3s 8000mah 11.1v they won’t charge on my Traxxas charger so I’m done with Traxxas bats and chargers
People keep saying proprietary this and that. He literally said it will still charge any other battery too. Xt60 to whatever adapters are pretty cheap. I run xt60 on all my stuff anyways, so it's a great deal for me. Right now i run 2 lectron pro acdc-10a chargers, one is starting to crap out. I saw this video at the perfect time. Plus amain has pretty good customer support
I really wish companies would start to up the discharge rate. It’s needed at races and there aren’t very many options other than very expensive chargers.
I wasn't happy with the charger and sent it back. For example, there was a bug when you select storage mode and want to start it, the charger does not recognize the G-Tech battery. You have to plug in the battery first, stop charging and then select Storage in the menu. It also bothered me that you can't extend the balancer cable and has to plug it directly into the charger if you want to use G-Tech. It would be perfect if a menu pops up when you connect the G-Teck battery and you can choose what you want to do (charging, storage mode, etc.). This would really be a smart charger
Key word being “for the money” people know about the D300 but the brand hasn’t proved quality beyond anything we already knew. But maybe if we can see you guys using it, maybe. But all we see at a glance is not D300 but anything else. Great video.
@@AMain_Hobbies Well that sucks. I love Gens Ace but I feel like AC chargers NEED an on/off switch because they can be left plugged in and easily turn them on and off instead of having to unplug it constantly or leave it running which wastes power.
Its hilarious to me how we all know ichargers are clearly the best in this industry atm, yet they don’t get any mainstream coverage. I’ll stick with my icharger and I’m sure any one else who has one will tell you the same.
@@maornavon2231 no just DC chargers last time I checked…. Everyone is scared of dc chargers when they’re just getting started in RC. Everyone wants to win the race driving down a cheap and easy straight road, and learn the hard way that it doesn’t work like that.
AC-powered chargers can't output very many amps or watts because the AC-to-DC power supply in them isn't very large. If you want lots of amps and watts, get a DC-only charger and a pair of hot-swappable Dell server power supplies.
i could care less about charge times honestly, easy to accomadate, what i care about is automatic storage mode. i hate worrying about getting my batteries to 30% charge to put them away
I own the D300 & absolutely love it! Only wish i could lock the voltage settings in balance and storage mode. I never go above 6.5amps
i hate it
I got one of these on this recommendation - it’s fantastic. Love all the settings, voltage ranges for everything, built in cell ports, even calibrate the two channels for perfect cell balancing. I have other GensAce stuff, it’s all good.
Just picked up an Imarz gens ace charger and it works really good
Hitec X2 Plus Black Edition is still my Favorite in that price Range! Its has some great features. Talks out loud, Bluetooth, an App. 😀 Has some dummy proof safety features. Automatically slow charges a low discharged lipo until it gets back into the acceptable range and then cranks amps back up...other chargers you have to manually charger low discharged lipo on Nihm to bring to life and then charge normal.
A lot of Hitek is just rebranded Chinese products. Chinese manufacturing can be the best quality since all charger even the top of the line $500 chargers are made in China
@@jalee6587Aren’t all chargers made in China?
Got a D300 from AMain a few weeks ago and love it!
I also bought a HOTA D6 Pro several years ago, it cost about the same price, it's also a 300 watt charger. I wish Amain had been selling that charger at the time, I only knew about it because I stumbled upon it. This was back when the Venom Duo Pro was all the rage even though it cost more and could only charge 150 watts.
Great video! Much appreciated!! If I didn't already have the Hota S6 (400w/$160=40cents/watt) I'd be all over the Gens 300watt charger.. maybe I need a backup? LOL! Keep up the great content Brett!! BTW, Kudos to Gens Tattu for the the G-tech technology, revolutionary!! I see they are now offering G-tech equipped 4s packs. I didn't realize the G-tech balance plug is compatible w/JST equipped chargers, awesome!!
Didnt know it existed but from the research and watching this video....this looks like a clear winner.
I have one of these and it’s a great charger. Great buy !,
OK, OK! Didn't know there was a new one. Picked up an iMars Dual last year when they were on sale at my local hobby shop. Great charger. Great batteries. Getting this smart one now. Honestly, didn't know. I bypassed it several times because it looks so much like the the Dual.
I bought the dual myself a couple of months ago but days before the released of the new version and I just wasn't going to send mine back and go through all of that. There should have been something on amain website that there was a new one being released I would have held off and got the new one.
These videos are great, the ending was amazing 🤣 glad I stuck around to see that
The toolkit M6D is a damn good charger for the money as well. 2 channels each at 250 watts or 15 amps per channel- or sync them up to charge at 25 amps. 80 bucks. Awesome bang for the buck. Bought mine through Amain as well.
I bought a Toolkit M6 a year and a half ago. It is awsome. Charger was only $36. It charges my 4s packs really well.
My main charger, especially for FPV. Been going strong for almost 3 years now charging 4S and 6S batteries.
I’ve got an M6D and I really need to start taking it to the field it’s so much more compact than what I normally lug with me, I just need to bring adapters for non XT-60 batteries. I’ve been liking my ISDT q6 so much as my “big” charger but the M6D actually puts out more if you share the channels.
hey brother, i just looked at this online, does it have xt60 ports? that would be perfect
@@Blimpus It has 2 XT60 ports. For what it’s worth, I use XT60 to XT30 adapters for when I need to charge XT30 batteries.
I rarely think of the watts of the charger anymore because I charge my batteries much slower or in parallel now, and my batteries love it!
For real, they want everyone charging lipo, cell phones, tablets or cells for flashlights super fast. Only kills them quicker and has you buying more sooner.
It just depends on your battery needs. Guys who are charging 6S, 8S and 12S have very different needs than guys charging 2S & 3S.
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Fair point
I have a Primal charger that came in a lot of parts i bought. It does both NiMh and lipo batteries and it works phenomenal. It wasnt expensive when it was new either. I also have the traxxas id charger for my traxxas id batteries and it works great.
wow nice charger and system, will be buying this eventually
great video as always, AMain the best
You can give it more power with DC PSU correct? What are people running for DC on these? Can I buy a DC PSU for this somewhere? Ebay maybe? I think the AC power is great when moving around, compact etc but at home I wouldn't mind upping it's power with a DC PSU for my larger lipo packs.
i have SkyRC D100 V2 2X100W. And Spektrum S2100 bought from the second hand. Im using almost only 2S bullet batteries for 4S system. When i want to charge 2x2S batteries, S2100 is able to charge 12A per channel and 9000mAH batteries are fully charged in 25 minutes from storage voltage. SkyRC seems similar on the paper, but it can manage only 5-6A per one channel on 2S. And it is often much slower about 2A. So paper values are one thing and real usage is the second.
Gtech sounds interesting but I still like the Spektrum batteries for the detailed logs stored on the battery chip, telemetry back to a Spektrum radio for voltage, temperature etc, fault logs, charge cycles and programmable self storage discharging if you forget to use it. The older Gen1 S2100 is extremely compact and easy to travel with.
Yeah it’s ISDT battgo rebranded for Spektrum. Spektrum did integrate the battery info nicely though into their transmitter telemetry like individual cell voltages without having to any additional sensors.
Can you tell me more about the smart lipos per spectrum? I cant find all the telemetry they offer for the premium cost they are
@@hayes4424 If you have a Spektrum radio and electronics it will transmit battery voltage, individual cell voltage, temperature, amperage draw, min/max from the model back to your tx screen. The battery also self records how many charge cycles it has had as well as any faults such as overheating, overcharging, over discharging. It also will self discharge automatically down to 3.8 volts per cell after a set amount of days if you forget and leave it in charged state. Both of these parameters are programmable by the end user.
That’s actually worth it for all that. Their S2200 is overpriced but once you’re in you’re in and that’s some really nice data logs
I’m a DC guy. My charger of choice is the ISDT Q6 Nano. 100w for $40, or 200w if you run on 24v, & I currently use 5 on a 12v supply. I would absolutely not recommend running DC for your first setup, and if you want to go bigger than I’d definitely say the d300 is a good starter choice.
I like my isdt Q8, but I prefer the ToolkitRC M6D for the price and performance. 2 channels and 500watts is about as good as it gets for the price. Look for the DC version.
@@jbrc1322 I had a couple toolkit RC chargers but all of them died within 2 months of use so I’ve sworn them off.
@@dylanwhite6539 yeah, I've heard of certain models not being reliable. I've had the m6d for over a year with good luck so far...
My only complaint about the Q6 Nano is the button. It is too easy to hit the button wrong and go into the menu instead of starting the charge.
@@slick2500 yea they really should’ve just made it two independent buttons. I’m pretty sure that’s what it is underneath and the charge start is just holding both. I’ve been able to use them well enough though that I don’t mind for the price.
You've lost a lot of weight!! Good for you. Keep it up! 👍
Just bought a new Revo 3.3 from you guys 2 weeks ago ain't even broke it in yet it's Soo pretty🤣🤣
Literally just bought my first charger from you guys 2 days ago after borrowing one for a few months. Looks like this one is definitely better than the hi tech one I ordered
Which HiTec Did you order?
@@keepingitonehundred the x2 ac plus black edition
@@AidanMorris It is an awesome charger you bought! I own a few, you have to remember this is a marketing video...The Hitec has a ton more features! Talking and Bluetooth are my favorites
@@keepingitonehundred good to know, thank you!
That's a really nice charger. I just bought the hi-tech black edition & like that as well. But again your locked in with their battery system & the price of their batteries.
I❤️the HiTec X2 Black Edition I have a few of them and they get the job done. None have died. They have some dummy proof features that add safety. They also automatically slow charge when voltage in a lipo is super low well beyond lipo discharge specs...and will safely slow charge until in range and then go full speed. It talks to say your batteries are done.
Spektrum S2100 Dual IC5 Charger all the way for me. Im a Arrma / Spektrum fanboy I guess. I find the stuff works as intended, and have batteries 5 years old, still pumping out bashing smiles for me and my sons.
I like arrma but hate spektrum.
I bought 2 400w chargers and im happy with this buy. I can charge my 6 4s 7000mah lipos in 70-80 min and my 6 3s 5000mah lipos in under an hour. Can't complaine about it and will buy it again or an newer version of it if released. I used to charge my lipos with 3 same chargers with 200w each and it took me longer to charge then my 2 chargers with 400w each. The new chargers save me about an hour charge time with the same lipos so im happy. Never underestimate the time saving with a good charger and dont save on it if u want your lipos charged fast. Good video like always, really like your channel and your style doing videos. Greetings from Austria!
Which battery charger did you buy?
@@Awakendabeast13 Hello, i bought the SKYRC D400 charger. 2 of them.
I have the d300 and its been great🤘. Awesome charger for an awesome price🤝
I have two of these bad boys just got into the rc car hobby waiting on my car to come in the battery's and charger came in first lol ended up with the dbxl -e 2.0 wanted to go big lol wonder how long before I crash
great video Brett!
The K4 also charges up to 8S. Allows you to grow while you grow to bigger batteries for bigger batteries...
i had to make sure this is the main aftermarket charger i keep in stock it is i have 3 right now
Why am I just now hearing about this? I currently have all Traxxas vehicles and while I don’t mind the Traxxas connector, I don’t like being locked into Traxxas batteries. I do have some Texas connector I can install on other batteries but then I lose the smart functionality which I really want to keep! I think imma have to look into this stuff because this looks like it mostly solves all my issues.
I see this video was great for you guys bbad for us. It's on backorder now.
Guys STOP buying brands proprietary batteries and chargers! Just let the few newbies buy them and starve the companies doing the money grab of your money. Also they’re extremely easy to bypass to use any charger.
Seriously, there is no need for any of that stuff. It's really not hard to learn how to care for and maintain batteries. The only thing anybody should be using is a standard charger like the D300, with bullets or XT60/XT90 connectors. Proprietary connectors are 100% designed to stop you from observing the health of the battery and lock you into buying more proprietary junk. Traxxas, for example, really doesn't want you to check the IR of their packs, or monitor the balance. Fishy.
“Money grab” is such a stupid concept. Everyone wants money. No one does anything for free. If there is money to be grabbed, you would grab the money too.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe Way to make excuses for the greedy. If it was me, I would just offer quality products engineered to last, and perform, at competitive prices. Then I would accept whatever share of the market that got me. You know, kinda like how things used to be, back when things were expected to be worth their price. But if you'd rather be aggressively marketed to by greedy corporations with overpriced, underperforming products that needlessly force you into a constrained ecosystem solely for the purpose of limiting your alternatives in order to preserve their ability to keep extracting more and more money from you in exchange for constantly decreasing quality, then I guess you do you. Someone has to buy the crap.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe it’s definitely a money grab. Look at these car companies charging you to be able to use the remote start and heated seats now. It’s like if you bought a Ford but can only buy approved Ford gas for twice the price. It went from all vehicles being able to go to any gas station to not. RCs used to be able to use any battery and chargers charged any battery. I mean they still do but now you have to do extra steps if you want to. Most new people surely have to be turned off by buying these proprietary batteries for 2-4x the price of other lipos.
This is like people complaining that an apple watch doesn't work with android lmao, imagine some random telling others "GUYS STOP BUYING IPHONES" make your own phones or buy android!, they all have their pros and cons, after 5 universal chargers, for me the traxxas charger is the best one I have ever had and I can afford paying extra for the convenience of clicking a button and dealing with balance connectors, so it is a big +1 from me.
I have the K4. Love it. 😂😂😂 That end clip
i use Battair with it, it is really nice, but g-tech is a problem
The best charger Ive ever used is the progressive RC 4010 Duo it will charge 12s if you want and it has most everything on it.
Honestly I’m jealous that nothing this good was around when I was just running ac chargers
Industry standard is the way to go. Proprietary connnector and chip are definitely proprietary. Think about that camera/phone/electronic with some sort of proprietary connector. Sitting in the drawer because its not compatible with anything. Make it an industry standard that negligibly impact price and then well talk.
I've been saying this for years, we need a standardized plug for charging and the balance lead needs to be integrated into the main not it's own separate plug. But this will never happen because of the big names in the industry like Traxxas and Horizon wanting their own tech. ISDT actually tried to get everyone to switch over to their Battgo system a few years ago but it flopped as no one jumped on board with them, that same tech is what Horizon uses in their Spektrum Smart chargers and batteries. From what I remember Spektrum has an exclusive deal with ISDT now and they are the only ones who can use it........................................
Thank you. I needed another charger.
I have a little cheap 50W Prophet mini sport from Horizon Hobby, It's 2 - 4S capable and 1 - 4amps, With 3 batteries I can pretty much fly all day using that one 30 dollar charger lol
I have a cheap 200w that'll let me charge my 4s batteries at 5a if I charge both or 10a if I'm doing one at a time. Awesome little charger that can have my cars up and running in less than an hour no matter which I want to drive
They should make balance lead connectors with a blank programmable board inside where you could install it on any battery and the first time you plug it up it asks you for the battery details and saves it to the chip.
It is easy to calculate the voltage a charger will charge at. The formula is Wattage divided by volage. So take your 6 cell lipo, nominal volage 22.2 volte divided into the wattage 300w. 300/22.2 = 13.51amps. So if you know what the nominal voltage of you pack and the wattage of the charger you can solve for top charging amps. If the charger says it will only charge up to X voltage and that is lower, then is is not using all the wattage because it is limited by the weakest component in the charger. They don't want to be sued if it catches fire.
Good stuff the end 😂
I just bought my second htrc 400w 1-6s battery charger last night it’s was $98 I had the earlier generation one it was 150w I believe for $70 and don’t get mad at me a main! I ordered a pile of parts from you guys to 😂
Haha, it's all good. But take note: the T400 is 400W on DC power and only 200W on AC power (the naming is misleading). That equals out to 49 cents per watt - more expensive than the D300.
-Brett
I'll stick to my Hota D6 Pro. It has a 1.6A balance circuit, meaning once in balance mode, it'll finish the cycle a lot faster. Plus it's cheaper. The reason nobody is buying this is there are better chargers out there for the money. Amain just doesn't sell them.
Hota s6 here, 1.6a balance current is hard to beat for an ac/DC charger. The imars d300 has 1.2a which isn't bad compared to most chargers, but like you said the hota will balance much faster.
@@-Gerald- Yep the Hota S6 is a fantastic powerfull charger, I love mine.
I have the D6 pro, it worked well for few months, but lately it started making problems during the balance. It just takes a lot of time to complete balancing.
HTRC T400 Pro is better than most other chargers on the market that I can see - the fact that you can save "templates" of your common batteries and charge jobs is awesome... Now just to find one in the US...
@@mini-z_me Wow... that's good information... hope nothing bad happened!
I have an electron pro and it charges all batteries, from gens ace to tatu, 2s to 6s . takes a minute but if the battery is storage charged it takes less .
Awesome video an i love the channel
You can charge non traxxas batteries on traxxas chargers, remove the blue traxxas plate, and there are some balance ports
That's a TRADE secret.
@@markg7030I actually really like the EZ Peak Dual, it's got 8a at 100w on one channel and 4a on two channels.
I'm poor at the moment so I use that charger for my 2wd Modified buggy, does the job and I got it for free a while ago
I have the Imars dual. It’s great for my needs.
Noob question can I bypass the 16amp charge rate for the recommended amp charge rate? I guessing yes. But wanted to ask:
Hi, what is your opinion of the Spektrum S2200 G2 AC 2x200W Smart Charger? I know it's costly but I really like the idea of getting rid of that balance lead.
It's a nice charger and the Spektrum Smart system is really convenient for worry-free charging. It is a little more costly but it's definitely recommended.
-Brett
Any ISDT battgo charger works completely with spektrum smart battery as spektrum just bought out battgo.
They didn't buy them out, they are paying royalties to use the technology in their products. It's not exclusive either.
@@thebirdman99 as I understand it, it is exclusive to spektrum and ISDT isn’t allowed to ship battgo enabled chargers anymore. I’ve bought newer isdt chargers that advertise battgo and don’t ship with despite advertising it
I have one in my wishlist on amin but waiting for funds to purchase one
I love my skyrc d200 neo it packs a lot of power nd i have no problem in 3 months
You said the you can’t charge non Traxxas batteries on a Traxxas charger. I’ve been doing just find. Am missing something here.
Ok I have this D300 I just bought a RC10B7 from Amain. I'm trying to figure out which connector I need to charge Gens Ace shorty batteries. Been out of the game for about 35-37 years so things have changed a lot. I bought a couple of slashes this spring and now I want to get back into racing.
Assuming your shorty uses bullet connectors, you will need something like this: www.amainhobbies.com/lrp-2s-lipo-charge-balance-lead-xt60-to-4-5mm-bullet-connector-600mm-lrp499104/p1557318
-Brett
Welcome back to racing, and good luck!
-Brett
Everyone keeps saying you can only charge traxxas batteries with the traxxas charger but I have a few different batteries and I charge all of them on my traxxas chargers all you need is adapters which is what you would need for any charger
Great video!
How does the IMARS D300 compare to the Hota D6 Pro?
I need a charger that can fast discharge big MAh batteries. I'm looking at buying the Hitec 1000 or the SkyRC T1000 with the discharger
I’ve got gens ace basher 4s 11000mah 14.8v. So with what your mentioning this the best bang for the buck dual changer my batteries? I also will be getting a few other pairs of gens 3s 8000mah 11.1v they won’t charge on my Traxxas charger so I’m done with Traxxas bats and chargers
People keep saying proprietary this and that. He literally said it will still charge any other battery too. Xt60 to whatever adapters are pretty cheap. I run xt60 on all my stuff anyways, so it's a great deal for me. Right now i run 2 lectron pro acdc-10a chargers, one is starting to crap out. I saw this video at the perfect time. Plus amain has pretty good customer support
You tell them.
-Brett
I have been loving my original Imars Dual and just have been thinking about picking up a second. LOL coincidence? Just ordered one.
It was cheap until this video came out! 🙄🤦♂️
I really wish companies would start to up the discharge rate. It’s needed at races and there aren’t very many options other than very expensive chargers.
AMAIN HOBBIES ROCKS
what lipo do you recommend for a traxxas slash 4x4 vxl
I bought the old one not knowing that they were different. They look so much alike, I couldn’t tell why one cost more than the other. Until now
Bonnie looking pinion gear many time slip these .Can a strong glue correspon?(Video )
Does it read/display individual cell IR?
Is 406 duo still best ever?
Do these gtech batteries go into self storage mode like the advanced series do?
No, I don't believe so.
-Brett
Bro you drop some serious weight? Please take that as a compliment! Good for you!
Bro same. I lost like 50 lbs over the last year. I think Corona was a weight loss experiment by the gov.
@@ryansmith8782 🤣 How come it didn't work for me?!
I wasn't happy with the charger and sent it back. For example, there was a bug when you select storage mode and want to start it, the charger does not recognize the G-Tech battery. You have to plug in the battery first, stop charging and then select Storage in the menu. It also bothered me that you can't extend the balancer cable and has to plug it directly into the charger if you want to use G-Tech. It would be perfect if a menu pops up when you connect the G-Teck battery and you can choose what you want to do (charging, storage mode, etc.). This would really be a smart charger
Do you ship world wide?
Yes we do. Although, some brands have restrictions on what territories we can sell/ship to.
-Brett
I hope you expand your Shop to EU. Nice Infos like allways ;)
When is the D300 coming back in stock?
UNRC A12 Pro is still my all time favourite
Key word being “for the money” people know about the D300 but the brand hasn’t proved quality beyond anything we already knew. But maybe if we can see you guys using it, maybe. But all we see at a glance is not D300 but anything else. Great video.
Im new to this hobby what rc charger do you recommend? so far im leaning towards the hota s6
Ovonic x1. Damn good dual charger for the cost.
Balance power is where chargers show real quality
*I* believe the SkyRC T1000 / Hitec RDX2 1000 450w AC, 1000w DC. Is the best and most powerful AC/DC charger on the market!
That is a great charger! I love mine.
My cheap Chinese charger does 80 Watts costing 35€ (0.45€ per watt or $0.49 per watt)
Is it on back order now because of this video?
Well you just sold a boatload of them now! :)
Still waiting on the PTK 1ktbl 😢
Please make more videos about the Traxxas slash and rc aero planes. 😁
no on/off switch?
No
@@AMain_Hobbies Well that sucks. I love Gens Ace but I feel like AC chargers NEED an on/off switch because they can be left plugged in and easily turn them on and off instead of having to unplug it constantly or leave it running which wastes power.
Its hilarious to me how we all know ichargers are clearly the best in this industry atm, yet they don’t get any mainstream coverage. I’ll stick with my icharger and I’m sure any one else who has one will tell you the same.
That would be fun but it's expensive. Maybe we can buy one in the future.
-Brett
I looked at the icharger but definitely out of my price range.
Do they have chargers with built in power supply ?
@@maornavon2231 no just DC chargers last time I checked…. Everyone is scared of dc chargers when they’re just getting started in RC. Everyone wants to win the race driving down a cheap and easy straight road, and learn the hard way that it doesn’t work like that.
@@herec0mestr0ble
I don’t have experience with external PS. Is it not too clumsy and heavy, together with the charger?
AC-powered chargers can't output very many amps or watts because the AC-to-DC power supply in them isn't very large. If you want lots of amps and watts, get a DC-only charger and a pair of hot-swappable Dell server power supplies.
I bought two of the IMARS Duals right before this came out...
They're still great chargers.
-Brett
Been saving to get this charger. Don’t see the point for less power. More power is always better. Be nice if it came in a quad. Lol
People don't know about this charger and battery system due to all the Traxxas and Spektrum -SHILLS- ...I mean -PAID- 'compensated reviewers.'
i hate g Tech, because i use Battair and g tech ballece connectors are not working with the interlock
Brett is awesome 😎
Icharger Duo with a 24v power supply is hands down
Nice to see you've shed the coivd pounds dude
Is it fairly common for Chargers to lose their power and efficiency over the years?
I have heard this about batteries but not about chargers. Could be a thing but I have not heard of it.
i could care less about charge times honestly, easy to accomadate, what i care about is automatic storage mode. i hate worrying about getting my batteries to 30% charge to put them away
I just don’t need a charger. I’ve got an old onyx duo still going strong