You know you're an INTP when you think about ways of thinking better before you try and think about what you want to think about. Not sure if that's a 100% accurate but I'll resist the temptation to re-think it.
thapelo Kganakga i deeply thinking about the way you thinking of the way intp thinking, have the same way i as intp thinking and its make me thinking how i can measure similarity deggre of common intp thinking
I think about this a lot. I've been thinking of studying critical thinking and computational thinking and trying to make use of algorithmic thinking in order to help my thinking save energy and get further faster (and have more fun as a result with making and solving personal puzzles or just nerding out) and hopefully prevent ti-si loops by design especially in my practical everyday life and environment, but I'm not sure if this is the most helpful way to think about thinking right now in my life, and also it smells of Te, which worries me since I'm not sure if that'll actually be something I can use well without a lot of effort, though I have recently come to have immense respect for it surprisingly. If I don't see it as a framework and I see it as a tool or instructional toolkit that my Si can perhaps employ or mimic somehow via protocols and programs, then it's an efficient art form in a way. Idk. Bleh
We want people to like us so we don't have to deal with emotional conflict. Seems noble to want to be nice to everyone but internally it's a little more about strategically avoiding conflict 😂
@@zulemaoregel2423 it's probably cuz we are suffering multiple realities at once and yet still able to come back around to the topic and get an "A" lmao
As an INTP I can have very strong emotions, but it's hard to express them in a socially acceptable way. People who are very free in expressing their emotions cannot really understand what the INTP struggle is. My emotions get very strong simply because there's no outlet to express them. INTP's don't really trust emotions either. It's no way to judge something objectively. And, of course, we are always looking for objective truth in any matter. So often I can be boiling inside, but others treat me like I don't care. Why? Because I'm not showing the emotion that they expect. I feel a lot of pressure to act out some emotion in order to appear engaged. This is difficult and makes me look weird or awkward because it's not a free flowing expression of emotion.
@Michael Jordan -- It's gotten better with age. From my experience I think that INTPs are emotionally immature and it takes a lot of time for them to develop in that area. It still seems to me that others around me just acquire this "adult" mentality at an early age, like a switch was flipped in them. That's something I never quite got a complete hold of. As difficult as that is I think that's something that INTPs just have to struggle with. Of course you can grow faster with painful experiences and taking chances on things outside of your comfort zone. Those things force you to grow up a little faster.
@Michael Jordan -- Well, women have a lot of experience with emotion and that helps them be very intuitive, but they are also a slave to their emotions (mostly). A mature women will be considerate and explain herself, but an immature one will "feel" justified in manipulating to get her way and will not be helpful in explaining emotions. Depending on someone else may be appealing, but it won't help your personal growth. I hope you can achieve that for yourself. It's very rewarding. That's what us INTPs do. We keep digging and struggling until we get a satisfying answer. Good Luck!
@Michael Jordan -- I can only share my personal experiences. That might not be a good fit for every INTP. I've found that after a painful experience it was important for me to have some alone time to sort through my feelings... to figure out what happened and what it means. If I can't figure it out and am profoundly confused then the other person is often lying or misrepresenting themselves. So many times I've discovered that other people are not seeking the truth. They want a cloud of confusion surrounding themselves so that you don't see their true intentions. Basically their evil and they hide behind lies and deceptions so they can keep getting away with their schemes. It is a delight to find another person to share an intrest or someone who loves the truth. INTPs usually find few friends because it's hard to find those who are accepting of an INTP's nature. I have to get to work now. If you have any more questions of me I'll answer you tomorrow. Have a great day!
Lol this is so true. I have often felt the need to say goodbye to everyone, so that no one gets offended, feels left out, or considers it rude...but since this is so exhausting and awkward, I have learned to suppress the urge of wanting to be polite and leave without saying goodbye, ...which is my personal preference anyway😂
When I was young I'd get depressed at other people's brilliance. As I got older I learned to admire other peoples abilities but that was as I became more confident in what I am capable of.
Social stuff is hard. I remember my mum telling me (when I was a young teen) that I needed to pay attention to how people perceive me in order to be able to make favourable impressions. So, I tried (and still try) very hard to pay attention to others in order to learn how to effectively impersonate a normal, likeable human. Since I am basically mirroring what I have seen other people do, even when it becomes a practiced routine, it feels very performative... and exhausting. I can't keep it up for extended periods of time.
Wouldn't say anti-establishment as much as pro leave me alone. World inside our mind probably so vivid because of a very high spatial i.q. Thought process is like watching a movie with some narrating. Makes perfect sense in my mind, but hard to translate because i have to translate the mini movie into words. Probably why some people can't fully understand intp's sometimes. Problem interpreting the imagery.
So is this thought process not true of everyone? I'm am INTP but only recently started researching about it and am still trying to figure out what are unique traits
the last observation about how intp displays emotion non-emotionally (other than in stressful situations) is (obviously) accurate, and I wanted to give an example of that, and also kind of give an insight as to how that also affects how I am also more receptive to non-emotional displays that are similar to mine. I'm sure it probably has a lot to do with inferior Fe and how little I trust (especially overly) emotionally-led actions. I (female intp) tend to show my feelings for others through acts, gifts, or advice (and also through creativity, like visual artwork and writing those feelings through fiction). Nonverbal/indirect communication comes across to me as truer or safer to believe, untainted by the unpredictable or uncontrollable aspects of performed emotions. It seems to me (though I can't prove this is true) that people fake feelings a lot, which is frustrating. Additionally, my own emotions, particularly in times of stress, cloud my rational judgment and make my decisions and actions untrustworthy. So I'm really reluctant to give weight or believe emotions across the board, especially if I can't see a rational process behind the display. Likewise, if I can't trust others' emotions, including my own, I can't rightly expect them to trust mine! So I end up doing things in a roundabout, background way, not because actions speak louder than words-- I don't really want to be loud tbh-- but that actions more often convey an accuracy that is necessary for mutual understanding. I will rarely tell someone how I care about them verbally, because it sounds hollow, but I will give a gift that shows that I have been listening that their needs are important to me, which is a lot harder to fake. Similarly, I'll trust what people do far more than what they say, when it comes to the topic of feelings. anyway sorry about the big ramble. thank you for the video, it let me analyze a few things about myself I hadn't considered, especially the.... lack of being present in a physical space rofl. the struggle is real.
What she said. Now imagine when a male INTP considers compliments to be irrational or an 'empty' endeavor. No wonder we prefer more often than not a solitary seclusion :D
Intp here... I very much do tend to create my own terminology. This is almost always in service of providing clarity. I.e. I'll start to use a word on the fly (and if it seems needed, explicity define its meaning compared to other terms used in the discussion) so as to be able to talk about a precise aspect of the discussion.
I love ENTPs and INTPs, that Ne and Ti used in conjunction offers a lot of insight in that they observe the world and use logic to find patterns that I would never see.
I've met my acquaintance yesterday after quite a long time and made a "stupid" joke (for me it was quite normal one) about my own death. She was being terrified. I came here to reassure myself that I'm just the warmest robot and not some weird person.
Im an INTP, I love your video's, a nice way to relax because something about you is somewhat comforting lmao. Some problems I have as an intp is that I constantly run into contradictions about myself and type and leads to my mbt constantly being on my mind, my brain constantly needs stimulation even if it means socializing constantly, (mostly happens when I feel cluttered in an environment such as school and it's excessive) and also when the weekend rolls around I need so much alone time to do things that make me comfortable and recuperated that I forget to do homework
I think the way my INTP friend's Fe shows is when her favorite characters have something bad happen to them and she has the overpowering need to hold them and bake pastries for them.
Here I thought you guys were going to contribute very thought provoking in-depth conversation, but no. I'm both relieved (since I won't have to think of something deep) and disappointed. This is the INTJ of the trio. In case anyone was wondering.
Trent Milner I work in costumer service as well and I do the same. My coworkers keep telling me I don’t have to apologize for everything, and but this awkward politeness is a habit for me.
Damn, and here I thought I was the only INTP foolish enough to work as a customer service. First 2 years were hell. Then I become dead inside. Now I simply do not give a single f :)
As a server I've changed the pronunciation to my name completely to sound like the white version of Andrea so not to confuse ppl when they interact with me.. and down right work so hard I kinda crack when I get someone rude and it throws me off and I go to the bathroom and sometimes have to cry.... I don't get rude customers often. I'm so good at the fake short display... But it's eating me inside it seems. I've changed my name for you ppl... Wtf kind of nonsense is that? I don’t have time to be yelled at by a customer in such a tone for such a small mistake that a simple “I wanted this instead of that... can you fix?” Would have been easily handled with I’m sorry there are a lot of tables and it’s the rush and let me get your custom order in! Nah they have to yell at make me feel like garbage as if I’m the only one at fault for the worlds issues. I don’t have the energy for that kind of draining experience. Just give me the thing and let me fix it and move on. It’s so sad to me to know my name is Aun-dre-uh not Anne-Dre-uh but I felt so pressured to fit into their stupid world I just gave them the simple one so no one would have issues. It’s highly demeaning and sad.
12:28 That is true. Basically reacting to things with fair analysis is natural to me. If I am under extreme stress, I no longer have the ability to analyze, so I have to unleash my raw emotions which is very scary... :/ All in all great vid
My friend is an INTP. He’s like Wes Anderson. Awkward creative genius. Has his own use of language, as you guys say. I think they have this hidden propensity for subservience (inferior Fe) that they try to hide. My friend only revealed this to me when we became quite close.
INTP here. This was very good for differentiation and contrasting us with other types. Especially the INFP here makes multiple points that ring so true and that I really haven’t seen expressed elsewhere.
INTPs and INTJs functions compliment each other. Basically, our strengths are perpendicular. INTPs are logos heavy, INTJs are ethos heavy. INTPs explore the abstract, INTJs apply the abstract. INTPs care about supporting people and so many other types aren´t aware that INTJs need such support (because they´re erroneously viewed as these cold, aloof people without feelings). But because INTPs also have trouble expressing their emotions, they´re more likely to identify INTJs Fi child. INTPs and INFPs share an Ne parent, and so can explore ideas with each other (for literally hours). INTPs also appreciate the depth and passion that INFPs have.
@@Miloeren12 You think an intp will try to come up with a plethora of ideas of why someone would hang up a non functional clock on their wall? Maybe an Ne-dom would do that, just for fun as they enjoy coming up with ideas on the fly that have no utilitarian or logical point. INTP prefers logic over ideating so I think it's less likely an INTP would reach that far. Because an INTP ideates from the basis of logic, once an interal logical conclusion has been reached the ideating goes back on the back seat. Unless of course there are actual logical reasons that a person would hang a non-functional clock on their wall.
@@vizuz yes though, I also thought it was because the ran out and that seems like the most likely option, but it is also logical to consider decoration
I grew up in Salvador - Bahia, Brazil. A really dangerous place with a lot of deaths daily, the sound of bullets is a constant thing to hear there, and people who were born there grew up learning to be strong, smart and cold for surviving needs, for not being too good to be tricked. Everybody who lives there has seen a dead body for sure. I considered myself a psychopath until the day I learned to be envious of people who connects deeply, emotionally, who expresses themselves expontaniously, before that I always thought people were always faking like me, but I saw the truth, saw that I was alone. So I learned to value these things. And fighted hard to become in touch emotionally ( probably I was not a psychopath, but I was narcissistic and untouched by my emotions for sure). Emotions for me with people, was only having fun, and superficial stuff to make me look good, or kind idk, I never cried for real that time. Nowadays I learned to feel more, I feel like wanting to hug people, I'm more expressive and quite sensitive, I became a social weirdo, sometimes I don't know how to act or feel emotionally. I thought I used Fi because i'm more internal and private emotionally, but it's not like that, and i'm not the kind of person who has all this things like.. I like this, I don't like that.. I don't know what i like or do not like exactly, and if i say i like something is because of something else about this time, and some time later, i will change my idea of liking or not liking something :/ I always was very good in social stuff, understanding people and things and how to behave (these are some of the super powers that i lost and i'm missing), like a Fe dominant, but without.. The good heart and true emotional connection. So I thought I was a great Ti user but i think I'm not that analytical systemic guy, and also not so chilly, disconnected and unaware of the emotional ambient around me, also i'm not a jerk, like some stereotypes for ti dominant. BUT.. I'm not like an ENTP, i mean.. I'm not charming and stuff.. I'm more like an insecure weirdo, who doesn't know how to act or feel in some social moments. Sometimes I'm so insecure that I'm shaky, and I don't know how to walk straight or where to look, totally avoid eye contact and I lose control of my thoughts and of myself. I would say I use Ni, I always had this moments of knowing stuff I wouldn't know, I can always see when someone is lying, by seeing some incoherence or some face movement that seems suspect or smell fishy for me. I would say I am a strong Ni user, but because these things are not happening too much nowadays, I don't know what to conclude anymore. Also.. I have this thing that I look at the person's face right in the moment that I met this person, and I have a little conclusion about this person's personality that in the end turns out that i was right, I don't know how I do this but is like unintentional, and I don't know if I compare to someone that I met in the past, but is very unconscious and I don't know who was the person that I met, and.. I also have this unconscious map of kinds of people, arround me people are usually in one of this groups, and I think that they're so common that it's hard not to classify them. That could be Si or Ni. I also have color grapheme Synesthesia, could be Si? And I remember saying on my childhood that the word "veia" (Veins), tastes like "aveia" (Quick oats), and i'm all this out of reality person who is not really good at staying in the moment. But I love action and I remember being a adrenaline lover in some moments of action, I love being outside, in natural places, I'm always looking at the nature beauty and my friends find that to be weird.. And i have a hard time trying to keep some values that I created, usually I forget about them.. And I have a really bad memory for stuff related to recent memory, but my childhood is something i think with nostalgia and love. In MBTI, I concluded that I was a type but suddenly I forget how I got in this conclusion so I start all over again.. Is really hard for me to do this since i'm not that kind of person who was born with an instruction guide saying how it's personality is. Help Beautiful channel.. I'm addicting to your videos.. They have a good vibe and a really good and open way to give information about MBTI. Oh.. And I also was good debater, a really good one, and was notorious in my school for being this person who asks questions, breaks the wall, debates and speaks. But now I'm just the social weirdo. Sorry for the big text Thank you for the atention and determination for reading all this.
I didn’t realize this Jungian personality type approach was making a comeback until a few days ago, so I’m really rusty at this, No one is limited to their personality type, people learn and can develop social skills beyond their type. How they internally feel about going outside of a comfort zone might not change until they get comfortable with it, but people can adapt. I have social skills (when off the internet). I don’t shy away. Heck, I spent years in the US Army Infantry (promoted just a little more often than demoted), in my current job (Unix/Disaster Recovery) and I often speak publicly. I’m able to function in high stress environments that cause most people to lock up (once was providing first aid to a woman on the subway when she split her skull open to the bone, another was when a GF brought food into our tent during spring time... it was bear country... I literally had to take on a bear buck ass naked - really funny story in hindsight). P.S. Overly expressing emotions, or lack of thinking something through, should not be considered a “good” thing. That’s what children do. Can you tell I’m INTP-A?
Oh i certainly can tell youre an INTP. Im an INTP-T. I was literally thinking the exact same thing you just said, throughout the whole discussion in this video and comment section. There's also this thing called "matured and immatured" type in each personality type that determines the kind of growth and adaptability you just described. Maturity also correlates with the need or want to get out of the comfort zone by realizing what side or quirk of one's personality isnt aiding to complete success which also includes- social, physical and personal. So, the more you take time to observe and WANT to learn how to do something the best way even if it "wasn't you" previously by understanding what youre doing, the more it creates growth in your personality and reaches you to higher levels of maturity. FYI, maturity doesnt depend on age. Im 19 and im the most logical and mature person in my entire family. Like im not even bragging right now because that is the literal truth. And im not surprised because ive had time living away from my family also, i make good use of the internet and ALSO im a healthy matured intp(now). XD
Would telling your partner you love them everyday be considered overly expressing emotions. Guess that depends on how people gauge expressing emotions in the first place, and if that's different for people it's not fair to judge.
I knew an intp in high school. He was incredibly intelligent but very absent minded. He was also very nice, like in a polite way but also into statistics and probability of things happening.
You start to see the world in a code this number equals this number which will lead to this it's interesting to watch and make it better but sometimes you forget to actually live
hello (intp here), this has nothing to do with anything you guys said in the video. Well kind of, but i'm mainly writing it here because i was inspired while watching your video. anyway, i noticed that people say intps are very detail oriented because we like to get to the root of the problem (saying we're more specialized). though to us, getting to the root means being lead to understanding it all. intps and intjs do the same thing (as far rhythm), but in a different way (as far as instruments). intjs have many interests because they aren't likely to dig into the details, but will get into the "details" when it comes to applying something (physics) to a problem. they know the many ways to solve a problem in the physical world, but they may not be able to come up a theory to then apply. they are good at understanding how to apply, but not necessarily how to understand it. intps get into the details of theory (metaphysics). both are detail oriented but in different ways. both enjoy being generalists but by different motivations. the intps motivation is because they get bored or have too many interests. whereas thee intjs motivation may be because they have many thing they want to get done, but they need to or would rather learn the skills themselves and take action. they are in love with how to apply it, not by being in love with the process. their fiery Ni-Te pushes them through with precision like a ball of fire. Ti-Ne engulfs with precision like an ocean of water.
As an INTP this video offends me on 3 levels. 1: the highly unorthodox color orientation of the puzzle cube in the preview. 2: I can tell on sight that that cube is unsolvable. And 3 that you made me engage in socializing via a UA-cam comment. Now my introvert battery will be depleted for the day. Lol thx😆
You know what the best trait about them is ? The one that appears on their forehead when you stop them in their argumentation saying "Ok, we agree to disagree".
My INTP Fe annoys my INTJ sister but otherwise, our relationship is great. I can be myself around INTJ. And, she's the smartest, funniest person I know. Our father is ISTJ so when I'm with the two of them, my Fe is all the Fe there is!
As an INTP, I would say that the INTP's inferior Fe is so from what you think it would be because we use Ti to copy and construct social interactions, so it looks as though we know how to interact socially: hello, thank you, good bye, and you're welcome copied, at least until you realize that hello and good bye are fundamental to communication (initiating and exiting). With customs, we would copy them (if they aren't too much trouble, like shaking hands) just so the other people don't get in a fuss. At least, this is true with me.
I hope what you say about Fe being copied to Ti is true. I seem to constantly construct imaginary conversations with someone I know in real life just so I can clarify my own thoughts and be more precise in my thinking, I even construct their questions or counter-points and try to answer them. I do this so often I struggle to sleep. I'm only trying to understand things, nothing personal against the other person.
yeah I generally just talk about my emotions like I'd talk about any theory or when I'm feeling a strong positive emotion I'll say "it's magical" in a very deadpan manner because I know I should show my appreciation (and I want to) but I just don't know how to
Célia Collet it’s funny you mention that (having a go-to phrase for the times you have a deep positive emotional reaction or feeling) - my INTP ex would always say “how touching” in the deadpan manner you describe when he was obviously feeling some feels & was uncomfortable acknowledging them any other way 😂 - INFP
I've wondered the same thing. I asks my sister what the personality type of her cat was, and she and I laughed a lot. But, then I was like, "no, really!"
Ironically, I know for sure two INTPs in my life. As an ENFP, we relate on our Ne and can have fantastic conversation about concepts, politics and science. Their logic helps reign in my lack their of and opposite my wild ideas can break some preconceived notions they never questioned. That being said, I honestly mis-typed both of them because I felt they were very emotional and understanding. Both were two of the nicest guys I knew, but I really felt like they were emotional and relatable on that level. I think their Fe, being the weakest of their four cognitive functions, means that they are aware of what others are feeling, but can't always make sense of it. Like they see it, but don't always understand why it is or just how to react to it.
I think I'm an INTP, and I can relate strongly with this. I also love how you guys also talked about our lower functions, which are often left out of our type profiles, further feeding into stereotypes. Great channel, been learning a lot from you two!
Finally a video specifically on INTPs! Felt like this type has been somewhat ignored on this channel, besides that guy you two think is actually an ISTP. Hopefully you are able to find a true unquestionably INTP type to converse with on this channel. Coming from an INTP male that has a 60/40 score on Thinking and Feeling. Definitely can relate to INFPs a bit. Also have a very dominant Ne cognition. Sometimes I relate to ENTPs as well.
I don't know if you guys know this channel, but it has some potential complement to points that you mention in this video (and is pretty interesting in general): - Communication is sometimes difficult between INTJs and INTPs: how INPs use/react to Ni ua-cam.com/video/CPpLC2S0m0A/v-deo.html (by mirroring the argument you have the same thing regading ITJs using Ti) - What Se feels like as a PolR function. Fi as a role function (awkward politeness is not the expression of Fe!): ua-cam.com/video/FhOhWaCvlek/v-deo.html All of that illustrating a bit the role of the so called shadow functions. One interesting thing Socionics says, is that INTPs and INTJs have the same strength in all functions (which makes them rather harmless to each other - can't push each other buttons when the PolR of one is the Inferior of the other). What differs between the two is which functions are valued, and which functions are conscious (valued: main, auxilary, teriary and inferior ; conscious: main, auxiliary, role and PolR). I think that while valuing different functions sometimes creates communication problems ("you're doing it wrong! No, you're missing the main point"), the difference in conscious functions probably is the reason for the fascination and mystery we feel for each another. At least for me, how Alex feels about Ti is exactly how I feel about Ni.
I really like those two videos and I'm glad that you mentioned them. Before I saw the one Leon did on INTPs and Ni, I thought my other intuition was, for lack of a better term, human intuition. I didn't know that my other intuition was Ni. Leon's great!
As an INTP I often feel I don't fit into any physical space... I am often overanxious about my surroundings or not paying attention at all 😓. It's very insightful from infp to capture that feeling
6:09 I think the word that you’re looking for is antidisestablishmentarianism. It’s an actual term. It had something to do with churches in the Middle Ages.
I have an anxiety disorder so I'm always caught in that rut where I can't think clearly and have to rely on my weaker functions and make irrational decisions and say dumb things, just to think about it a few minutes later and know what I should have done or said. It's torturous
Listen you derogatory piece of shit, it was the only option he mentioned so I assumed that he was saying that other methods wouldn't be as likely to work as meditation for most people with anxiety disorders, not that meditation is the only thing that works 100% of the time for everyone with anxiety disorders. And I meant that if that's the case, then I disagree with that since different methods may prove just as likely to be effective as meditation for some people. Anyway, I'm sick of people starting petty arguments that prove how small they are so get lost.
Haha lmao now you're just resorting to the old "accusing people of being emotional when they don't have anything left to say" trick. *yawn* I think it's clear by now that I've won. You can go cry into your mommy's lap now.
All I ever see with INTPs in comment sections is either conflicts, criticisms, a crazy long analysis of the video or trolling. While ENTPs can be like this, I find I get good laugh out of them -- they are able to make things more lighthearted. I see the positives to both of their communication styles though. These are just my observations from comment sections... have literally nothing against INTPs :)
Andrés Coar since we can't display our good looks on UA-cam comments, it has to be our brains. Not ideal but... But on a serious note, I think INTPs express themselves better in gifs and memes. Writing platforms are just an invitation to blab on for ages. Or say something cryptic, that only 2 people will understand. You know this could be an interesting topic: How each type behaves in the comments
I'll tell you why you notice this tendency. Intps highest goal is truth, and to find truth you must have clarity, and to have clarity you must use precise language. Many UA-cam videos are not sufficiently precise... so intps feel a need to use comments to clarify the pints of the video. Done poorly this can be seen as an attack.
Probably your dad has hit his head on a lot of doorframes. My dad is 6'4", and he has explained that he has learned to measure doorframes and ceilings while walking, so I think he looks awkward moving around sometimes. That might just be a tall person thing. 🤔
*sultry singing* Aaaaat laaaaast ~ (Also good way to get INTPs watching, have a cat. Should have made it the thumbnail.) Hanyway: I've just realized, of all types, I have a very strong interest in and fascination with INFPs and INTJs! And INTPs, but that's the usual self interest.. But yeah, I don't really know why, considering I feel like I would have a difficult time connecting to them? (Like seeing a cat and liking it, and wanting it to like you, BUT YOU CANT MAKE A CAT LIKE YOU. I'm just an INTP girl with zero volition and nothing but memes for jokes). I'm trying to figure out why these two in particular: Intuitive interests for one, that's already a pretty big field; social awkwardness, high independence, hidden wisdom... I dunno. Something. And Fi! I find myself really envying Fi users (doesn't have to be dom or aux), Fe feels like a bane to my life, I wish I didn't care T_T I spent my entire childhood thinking I was fake because I thought I had no actual identity beyond my social masks, which I now understand, but man; these issues are bound to show up somewhere, lol. I try to "perform" Fi sometimes, by being all "as with the heart, so with the eyes" and stuff, but I crumble as soon as anyone even begins to interact with me. Because heaven forbid they dislike me and we ***conflict*** But yeah, INFPs can do no wrong - so to speak - in my eyes. Like cats. They can destroy everything and I'll still find it adorable. INTJs are so intimidating, and confident and weirdly forceful (or maybe willful is a better word), buts its kinda hot? Like you get chills when you see them, but it's defo the good kind? I don't know how to explain this without it sounding creepy, so I'll end it there. Good one! This channel is a serious goldmine, so thanks :) Can't wait for the celebrity typing thing.
Neo D'Lehoko embrace your shadow Entj. It doesn't come often, and its exhausting but o boii its great. I think this correlates with 5 being Intp and Intj mainly. My claim would be that 5 Intj have a more direct aversion to physical reality whilst Intp 5 would feel overwhelmed by emotions of others. If you're interested check Conscious Tv youtube channel on enneagram. Specially Faisal Muqqadam and A.H Almaas.
Andrés Coar Yeah, you know, you'd think I'd be more interested in ENTJs, but somehow I'm not. Not intensely anyway. But I think with my Se and Fi being where they are... I mean Se can seem so immoral to me; which is interesting, I need to think about that some more. I don't really know enough about Enneagram to make much comment about it, but the books are in my cart so... soon. Do many INTJs relate to 5?
😅 the big five personality traits make so much more sense, whether you think or feel depends on your mood, high neuroticism might make you fall back on irrationality more and openness might too. When anyone is emotionally calm and stable they think rationally. Everyone thinks and feels!
A somewhat charitable (not that I'm complaining) -but- and quite informative presentation. Chuckled several times at the cat-induced distractions and thought "that cat would have to be a leopard to distract me" - so we have something in common. -intp
We won’t try to convince you because it’s pointless because everything is theoretical and ever changing and we don’t even have all the answers even tho we seek them so we feel it’s unfair to really push our half baked ideas out there to others as facts or important when we are still learning and studying... and there is just no simple answer for most questions.
08:18 - Heck yes. While no, I'm never at parties, I do this all the time at work. I work at a small highway hotel, and whenever I'm off work, I say bye to my fellow waiters, I go say bye to the kitchen and I go and say bye to the receptionists. THEN I can leave.
I'm not sure if I'm a hyper INTP, but I've never felt like I don't show my emotions so much as I don't feel much emotionally at all. I have no problem crying in front of people, but for some reason, I'm far more consistently moved by fictional stories (Pixar and such) than I am by real life. I was actually really depressed for a couple years because I felt like I was a spectator in my own life-- not because I couldn't control things, but because I was rarely truly excited, sad, or anything. I just learned to mimic behaviors. People assume I'm bottling things up, but while I have been getting better about actually feeling things, for the most part, I still feel like an android who's mostly confused by emotions. P.S. I'm a 22-year-old boy (for anyone wanting context.)
INTJ'S can give recommendations if a person needs help .INTP'S will tell you that it is inconsistent but will not give recommendations so that is one way to compare and contrast between INTJ'S and INTP'S.
Lol. I got the point where we actually looks that awkwardly on behaving. Cuz we truly have our own reality. Its like how u see ourselves in reality is totally different compared to how we define a look of ours.. in conclusion we dont even seem to fit in phisical world
Intp here today there’s a birthdayparty I really have to think about it I don’t want to go because I know I’ll be very exhausted after some time especially because I don’t know most of the people there but a small part in me wants to go idk
Before I knew anything about MBTI I used to explain to people that it's not a case of me not feeling things but that I have the ability to completely suppress and ignore my emotions, whether they are negative or positive. I could just think to myself "this thing hurts, fuck that" and I'd put it in a box, push it into the closet of bad thoughts and close the door. Easy, all gone. I could switch my thoughts to something else and go on with my life. There is of course the problem that you never actually solved the issue but just ignored it and that closet will slowly fill up more and more until the door that keeps them locked away comes flying off the hinges but that's a rare occurrence. The problem (for anybody in the surroundings) is that it doesn't have to be anything serious that triggers that explosion, it only has to be the last drop that overflows the entire lake and whoever is responsible for that last drop is going to receive everything. Also everything you have ever said or done since the beginning of time that I had pushed into that closet and just ignored is going to come out at the same time. You have probably forgotten 90% of the things, but I sure didn't.
Haha...it's verry true that INTP's interact with people in a thought way. For instance, I don't like party's...way too socially! But, I know how to react and what is suspected of a social interaction. It can be hard and sweaty ;)
At the intro..I was like ...”*serious mode* (and then) That’s a cat’s tail.....Oh! IT IS A CAT’S TAIL HELLOOOOoooO~ Kitty! Cute.” Love the video btw~ (From an INTP (๑･̑◡･̑๑))
@@aonaohafa Based on Jung there are only 4 functions: F,T,N,S and they can be pointed inwards (introverted) or outwards (extroverted). Jung invented the terms introverted and extroverted to speak about the 4 functions. INTPs usually point their iNtuition outwards. BTW, the term critic was coined by Dr. Bebee not by socionics.
I’m an INTP and I found an INTJ with two other ENTP and INTP friends in high school and my dad is an INTJ. In college I was friends with ESFJ’s ESFP’s ENFP’s and ENFJ’s cause I behaved more like an XNTP like ENTP. But now I think of myself as an INXP and so my INFP side has basically made me...feel like happy in the moment feelings I’m going insane please help lol
Sometimes I talk to people about simple theoreticals and randomly tie it in to any theory I have because I’m trying to create one perfect theory of everything so I may be telling you about plutonomy and relating that to Sacha Inchi oil and ultimately end up relating it to Gödel’s incompleteness theorem.
I met a Intp/Infp person today and I'm suposedly an Infp. Soo we went biking and all I heard was him talking to me from his bike and like it was difficult to hear much lol. I dunno but it was difficult to communicate in general. I hardly could understand that person. Towards the end he asked when I'll go back hiking and probably hinting he wanted to tag along but like we hardly talked or anything so even the thought of that person as a new friend.. well I couldn't connect to that. Felt bad but I just find our personalities didn't connect. Probably won't meet again but I was curious so I came here. @.@
INTP here. Gotta be honest (cuz that's what we do), I had to tap out of this video at the 3 minute mark. Listening to y'alls meandering rambling hurts my brain. Perhaps you made a point at the 14 min mark, I'll never know because I'm not a masochist. There is a slight chance that my prejudice caused me to miss out on something truly transcedent, but I'll bet a billion bucks I ain't wrong.
I like how these individuals kind of are the way they look. Like in cartoon theory, the character like a bully is easy to identify. This may be useless to others.
I dk about other intps but I understand intjs perfectly well - they just usually get lost when it comes to the logic aspect and that's where the communication error happens: the intj
You know you're an INTP when you think about ways of thinking better before you try and think about what you want to think about. Not sure if that's a 100% accurate but I'll resist the temptation to re-think it.
thapelo Kganakga i deeply thinking about the way you thinking of the way intp thinking, have the same way i as intp thinking and its make me thinking how i can measure similarity deggre of common intp thinking
Oh my god this is me. Hello, fellow intp
Nigh infinite capacity for metacognition (meticulously intricate articulations are fun). :3
I think about this a lot. I've been thinking of studying critical thinking and computational thinking and trying to make use of algorithmic thinking in order to help my thinking save energy and get further faster (and have more fun as a result with making and solving personal puzzles or just nerding out) and hopefully prevent ti-si loops by design especially in my practical everyday life and environment, but I'm not sure if this is the most helpful way to think about thinking right now in my life, and also it smells of Te, which worries me since I'm not sure if that'll actually be something I can use well without a lot of effort, though I have recently come to have immense respect for it surprisingly. If I don't see it as a framework and I see it as a tool or instructional toolkit that my Si can perhaps employ or mimic somehow via protocols and programs, then it's an efficient art form in a way. Idk. Bleh
You know you're an intp when I sat here and stared at your comment, trying to figure out what you meant.
We want people to like us so we don't have to deal with emotional conflict. Seems noble to want to be nice to everyone but internally it's a little more about strategically avoiding conflict 😂
Christian Rivera Are you an intp?
So accurate
true af
You're nice? Why? Avoid conflict by getting good at it.
Yes, drama stresses us out so we either try to get along with everybody or not connect at all.
“This has just turned into, like, the cat show.”
But this was already about INTPs.
I love seeing INTJs admitting to being intellectually intimidated by INTPs
Me an INTP: MUAHAHAHAHAHA
I knew it! To be fair I love an intj and also am intimidated by their insight
Yes! I find INTPs intimidating. No one intimidates me like an INTP 😭 they skewie
@@zulemaoregel2423 it's probably cuz we are suffering multiple realities at once and yet still able to come back around to the topic and get an "A" lmao
Same
As an INTP I can have very strong emotions, but it's hard to express them in a socially acceptable way. People who are very free in expressing their emotions cannot really understand what the INTP struggle is. My emotions get very strong simply because there's no outlet to express them. INTP's don't really trust emotions either. It's no way to judge something objectively. And, of course, we are always looking for objective truth in any matter.
So often I can be boiling inside, but others treat me like I don't care. Why? Because I'm not showing the emotion that they expect. I feel a lot of pressure to act out some emotion in order to appear engaged. This is difficult and makes me look weird or awkward because it's not a free flowing expression of emotion.
@Michael Jordan -- It's gotten better with age. From my experience I think that INTPs are emotionally immature and it takes a lot of time for them to develop in that area. It still seems to me that others around me just acquire this "adult" mentality at an early age, like a switch was flipped in them. That's something I never quite got a complete hold of. As difficult as that is I think that's something that INTPs just have to struggle with. Of course you can grow faster with painful experiences and taking chances on things outside of your comfort zone. Those things force you to grow up a little faster.
@Michael Jordan -- Well, women have a lot of experience with emotion and that helps them be very intuitive, but they are also a slave to their emotions (mostly). A mature women will be considerate and explain herself, but an immature one will "feel" justified in manipulating to get her way and will not be helpful in explaining emotions. Depending on someone else may be appealing, but it won't help your personal growth. I hope you can achieve that for yourself. It's very rewarding.
That's what us INTPs do. We keep digging and struggling until we get a satisfying answer. Good Luck!
@Michael Jordan -- I can only share my personal experiences. That might not be a good fit for every INTP. I've found that after a painful experience it was important for me to have some alone time to sort through my feelings... to figure out what happened and what it means. If I can't figure it out and am profoundly confused then the other person is often lying or misrepresenting themselves.
So many times I've discovered that other people are not seeking the truth. They want a cloud of confusion surrounding themselves so that you don't see their true intentions. Basically their evil and they hide behind lies and deceptions so they can keep getting away with their schemes.
It is a delight to find another person to share an intrest or someone who loves the truth. INTPs usually find few friends because it's hard to find those who are accepting of an INTP's nature.
I have to get to work now. If you have any more questions of me I'll answer you tomorrow. Have a great day!
Sounds like a potential serial Killer but yeah Word.
Personally I write, people say I’m good at pinpointing exactly what they’re feeling and somehow putting it into words.
Lol this is so true. I have often felt the need to say goodbye to everyone, so that no one gets offended, feels left out, or considers it rude...but since this is so exhausting and awkward, I have learned to suppress the urge of wanting to be polite and leave without saying goodbye, ...which is my personal preference anyway😂
This is 100.% accurate
Haha I can relate. Socially awkward yet very polite.
When hanging out with people makes you feel empty inside because you just deepen the belief that no one can understand you.
When I was young I'd get depressed at other people's brilliance. As I got older I learned to admire other peoples abilities but that was as I became more confident in what I am capable of.
Social stuff is hard. I remember my mum telling me (when I was a young teen) that I needed to pay attention to how people perceive me in order to be able to make favourable impressions. So, I tried (and still try) very hard to pay attention to others in order to learn how to effectively impersonate a normal, likeable human. Since I am basically mirroring what I have seen other people do, even when it becomes a practiced routine, it feels very performative... and exhausting. I can't keep it up for extended periods of time.
I'm like an onion in that layer after layer you will keep seeing the same thing and probably cry
Can't stop laughing. Thank you. -infp
@@ljubovv5610 lmfao same - infp
Wouldn't say anti-establishment as much as pro leave me alone.
World inside our mind probably so vivid because of a very high spatial i.q.
Thought process is like watching a movie with some narrating. Makes perfect sense in my mind, but hard to translate because i have to translate the mini movie into words. Probably why some people can't fully understand intp's sometimes. Problem interpreting the imagery.
Randalph Miller thus memes
Spot on
So is this thought process not true of everyone? I'm am INTP but only recently started researching about it and am still trying to figure out what are unique traits
OMG THE MINI MOVIES PART SO ACCURATE I was waiting for someone to say that
U just spoke my mind😂
the last observation about how intp displays emotion non-emotionally (other than in stressful situations) is (obviously) accurate, and I wanted to give an example of that, and also kind of give an insight as to how that also affects how I am also more receptive to non-emotional displays that are similar to mine. I'm sure it probably has a lot to do with inferior Fe and how little I trust (especially overly) emotionally-led actions. I (female intp) tend to show my feelings for others through acts, gifts, or advice (and also through creativity, like visual artwork and writing those feelings through fiction). Nonverbal/indirect communication comes across to me as truer or safer to believe, untainted by the unpredictable or uncontrollable aspects of performed emotions. It seems to me (though I can't prove this is true) that people fake feelings a lot, which is frustrating. Additionally, my own emotions, particularly in times of stress, cloud my rational judgment and make my decisions and actions untrustworthy. So I'm really reluctant to give weight or believe emotions across the board, especially if I can't see a rational process behind the display. Likewise, if I can't trust others' emotions, including my own, I can't rightly expect them to trust mine! So I end up doing things in a roundabout, background way, not because actions speak louder than words-- I don't really want to be loud tbh-- but that actions more often convey an accuracy that is necessary for mutual understanding. I will rarely tell someone how I care about them verbally, because it sounds hollow, but I will give a gift that shows that I have been listening that their needs are important to me, which is a lot harder to fake. Similarly, I'll trust what people do far more than what they say, when it comes to the topic of feelings.
anyway sorry about the big ramble. thank you for the video, it let me analyze a few things about myself I hadn't considered, especially the.... lack of being present in a physical space rofl. the struggle is real.
What she said. Now imagine when a male INTP considers compliments to be irrational or an 'empty' endeavor. No wonder we prefer more often than not a solitary seclusion :D
U just spoke my mind. Gifts advice helping etc😂
I feel so represented by this comment that i can almost feel the emotional part of me crying in the depths of his dungeon
@@HoukaiBG I look at it that compliments are irrational lol to me a compliment is ALWAYS suspicious lmbo!
Damn that’s spot on
Intp here... I very much do tend to create my own terminology. This is almost always in service of providing clarity. I.e. I'll start to use a word on the fly (and if it seems needed, explicity define its meaning compared to other terms used in the discussion) so as to be able to talk about a precise aspect of the discussion.
breakingthemasks What you said about clarity was a good example itself. Fellow INTP.
Jordan Peterson is an INTP and talks about this. Always talks about truth and precise definitions. Same with Elon Musk if you watch some interviews.
I love ENTPs and INTPs, that Ne and Ti used in conjunction offers a lot of insight in that they observe the world and use logic to find patterns that I would never see.
I've met my acquaintance yesterday after quite a long time and made a "stupid" joke (for me it was quite normal one) about my own death. She was being terrified. I came here to reassure myself that I'm just the warmest robot and not some weird person.
Im an INTP, I love your video's, a nice way to relax because something about you is somewhat comforting lmao. Some problems I have as an intp is that I constantly run into contradictions about myself and type and leads to my mbt constantly being on my mind, my brain constantly needs stimulation even if it means socializing constantly, (mostly happens when I feel cluttered in an environment such as school and it's excessive) and also when the weekend rolls around I need so much alone time to do things that make me comfortable and recuperated that I forget to do homework
I think the way my INTP friend's Fe shows is when her favorite characters have something bad happen to them and she has the overpowering need to hold them and bake pastries for them.
That would be me. FYI, Leonodon is an INFP.
Lord_Of_The_Flies _ the people who read Coffee's comment section often already know, Mr. Fly
Apologies, Leo. And that is MS to you.
Here I thought you guys were going to contribute very thought provoking in-depth conversation, but no. I'm both relieved (since I won't have to think of something deep) and disappointed.
This is the INTJ of the trio. In case anyone was wondering.
Lord_Of_The_Flies _ you are LORD of the flies not LADY of the flies. Therefore you are Mr. Fly
the inferior FE part was very accurate. At work I get very exausted working customer Service because im overly polite, even to very rude people.
Trent Milner I work in costumer service as well and I do the same. My coworkers keep telling me I don’t have to apologize for everything, and but this awkward politeness is a habit for me.
Damn, and here I thought I was the only INTP foolish enough to work as a customer service. First 2 years were hell. Then I become dead inside. Now I simply do not give a single f :)
@@HoukaiBG ENTP working in a similar evironment and hate 90% of it. I cope via sarcasm. A lot of sarcasm. Pun after pun and being ever so cavalier.
As a server I've changed the pronunciation to my name completely to sound like the white version of Andrea so not to confuse ppl when they interact with me.. and down right work so hard I kinda crack when I get someone rude and it throws me off and I go to the bathroom and sometimes have to cry.... I don't get rude customers often. I'm so good at the fake short display... But it's eating me inside it seems. I've changed my name for you ppl... Wtf kind of nonsense is that? I don’t have time to be yelled at by a customer in such a tone for such a small mistake that a simple “I wanted this instead of that... can you fix?” Would have been easily handled with I’m sorry there are a lot of tables and it’s the rush and let me get your custom order in! Nah they have to yell at make me feel like garbage as if I’m the only one at fault for the worlds issues. I don’t have the energy for that kind of draining experience. Just give me the thing and let me fix it and move on. It’s so sad to me to know my name is Aun-dre-uh not Anne-Dre-uh but I felt so pressured to fit into their stupid world I just gave them the simple one so no one would have issues. It’s highly demeaning and sad.
wow intp in customer svc! sorry abt that
12:28 That is true. Basically reacting to things with fair analysis is natural to me. If I am under extreme stress, I no longer have the ability to analyze, so I have to unleash my raw emotions which is very scary... :/
All in all great vid
My friend is an INTP. He’s like Wes Anderson. Awkward creative genius. Has his own use of language, as you guys say. I think they have this hidden propensity for subservience (inferior Fe) that they try to hide. My friend only revealed this to me when we became quite close.
INTP here. This was very good for differentiation and contrasting us with other types. Especially the INFP here makes multiple points that ring so true and that I really haven’t seen expressed elsewhere.
Remove the cat, INFP can't focus. LUL.
@O.C. Sky the intp will likely explode and die
OMG THANK YOU!!
Almost all cats are INTP, it's the demonstration of the personality type ;)
I love cats.
Ikr
no FE in feline
#LINE 🐱
Apparently FE feline works quite well with ED edibles along with GI giggles...
INTPs and INTJs functions compliment each other. Basically, our strengths are perpendicular. INTPs are logos heavy, INTJs are ethos heavy. INTPs explore the abstract, INTJs apply the abstract. INTPs care about supporting people and so many other types aren´t aware that INTJs need such support (because they´re erroneously viewed as these cold, aloof people without feelings). But because INTPs also have trouble expressing their emotions, they´re more likely to identify INTJs Fi child.
INTPs and INFPs share an Ne parent, and so can explore ideas with each other (for literally hours). INTPs also appreciate the depth and passion that INFPs have.
I am so unhealthy that I watch this video to feel better about myself after hours of exhaustion from social anxiety
You know you're an INTP when all you can think about the entire time you're watching this is 'Why is the clock stopped?'
Nah.. an intp would have long figured out the battery probably went ded. They are smart cats
@@vizuz assuming it was even functional in the first place
@@Miloeren12 You think an intp will try to come up with a plethora of ideas of why someone would hang up a non functional clock on their wall?
Maybe an Ne-dom would do that, just for fun as they enjoy coming up with ideas on the fly that have no utilitarian or logical point. INTP prefers logic over ideating so I think it's less likely an INTP would reach that far. Because an INTP ideates from the basis of logic, once an interal logical conclusion has been reached the ideating goes back on the back seat. Unless of course there are actual logical reasons that a person would hang a non-functional clock on their wall.
@@vizuz decoration, I also have a dysfunctional clock in my house the only purpose it serves it for decor
@@vizuz yes though, I also thought it was because the ran out and that seems like the most likely option, but it is also logical to consider decoration
I grew up in Salvador - Bahia, Brazil. A really dangerous place with a lot of deaths daily, the sound of bullets is a constant thing to hear there, and people who were born there grew up learning to be strong, smart and cold for surviving needs, for not being too good to be tricked. Everybody who lives there has seen a dead body for sure.
I considered myself a psychopath until the day I learned to be envious of people who connects deeply, emotionally, who expresses themselves expontaniously, before that I always thought people were always faking like me, but I saw the truth, saw that I was alone. So I learned to value these things. And fighted hard to become in touch emotionally ( probably I was not a psychopath, but I was narcissistic and untouched by my emotions for sure). Emotions for me with people, was only having fun, and superficial stuff to make me look good, or kind idk, I never cried for real that time. Nowadays I learned to feel more, I feel like wanting to hug people, I'm more expressive and quite sensitive, I became a social weirdo, sometimes I don't know how to act or feel emotionally.
I thought I used Fi because i'm more internal and private emotionally, but it's not like that, and i'm not the kind of person who has all this things like.. I like this, I don't like that.. I don't know what i like or do not like exactly, and if i say i like something is because of something else about this time, and some time later, i will change my idea of liking or not liking something :/
I always was very good in social stuff, understanding people and things and how to behave (these are some of the super powers that i lost and i'm missing), like a Fe dominant, but without.. The good heart and true emotional connection. So I thought I was a great Ti user but i think I'm not that analytical systemic guy, and also not so chilly, disconnected and unaware of the emotional ambient around me, also i'm not a jerk, like some stereotypes for ti dominant. BUT.. I'm not like an ENTP, i mean.. I'm not charming and stuff.. I'm more like an insecure weirdo, who doesn't know how to act or feel in some social moments.
Sometimes I'm so insecure that I'm shaky, and I don't know how to walk straight or where to look, totally avoid eye contact and I lose control of my thoughts and of myself.
I would say I use Ni, I always had this moments of knowing stuff I wouldn't know, I can always see when someone is lying, by seeing some incoherence or some face movement that seems suspect or smell fishy for me. I would say I am a strong Ni user, but because these things are not happening too much nowadays, I don't know what to conclude anymore.
Also.. I have this thing that I look at the person's face right in the moment that I met this person, and I have a little conclusion about this person's personality that in the end turns out that i was right, I don't know how I do this but is like unintentional, and I don't know if I compare to someone that I met in the past, but is very unconscious and I don't know who was the person that I met, and..
I also have this unconscious map of kinds of people, arround me people are usually in one of this groups, and I think that they're so common that it's hard not to classify them. That could be Si or Ni. I also have color grapheme Synesthesia, could be Si? And I remember saying on my childhood that the word "veia" (Veins), tastes like "aveia" (Quick oats), and i'm all this out of reality person who is not really good at staying in the moment. But I love action and I remember being a adrenaline lover in some moments of action, I love being outside, in natural places, I'm always looking at the nature beauty and my friends find that to be weird.. And i have a hard time trying to keep some values that I created, usually I forget about them.. And I have a really bad memory for stuff related to recent memory, but my childhood is something i think with nostalgia and love.
In MBTI, I concluded that I was a type but suddenly I forget how I got in this conclusion so I start all over again..
Is really hard for me to do this since i'm not that kind of person who was born with an instruction guide saying how it's personality is.
Help
Beautiful channel.. I'm addicting to your videos.. They have a good vibe and a really good and open way to give information about MBTI.
Oh.. And I also was good debater, a really good one, and was notorious in my school for being this person who asks questions, breaks the wall, debates and speaks. But now I'm just the social weirdo.
Sorry for the big text
Thank you for the atention and determination for reading all this.
Interesting information. Thanks for sharing your many thoughts.
I didn’t realize this Jungian personality type approach was making a comeback until a few days ago, so I’m really rusty at this, No one is limited to their personality type, people learn and can develop social skills beyond their type. How they internally feel about going outside of a comfort zone might not change until they get comfortable with it, but people can adapt.
I have social skills (when off the internet). I don’t shy away. Heck, I spent years in the US Army Infantry (promoted just a little more often than demoted), in my current job (Unix/Disaster Recovery) and I often speak publicly. I’m able to function in high stress environments that cause most people to lock up (once was providing first aid to a woman on the subway when she split her skull open to the bone, another was when a GF brought food into our tent during spring time... it was bear country... I literally had to take on a bear buck ass naked - really funny story in hindsight).
P.S. Overly expressing emotions, or lack of thinking something through, should not be considered a “good” thing. That’s what children do. Can you tell I’m INTP-A?
Oh i certainly can tell youre an INTP. Im an INTP-T. I was literally thinking the exact same thing you just said, throughout the whole discussion in this video and comment section. There's also this thing called "matured and immatured" type in each personality type that determines the kind of growth and adaptability you just described. Maturity also correlates with the need or want to get out of the comfort zone by realizing what side or quirk of one's personality isnt aiding to complete success which also includes- social, physical and personal. So, the more you take time to observe and WANT to learn how to do something the best way even if it "wasn't you" previously by understanding what youre doing, the more it creates growth in your personality and reaches you to higher levels of maturity. FYI, maturity doesnt depend on age. Im 19 and im the most logical and mature person in my entire family. Like im not even bragging right now because that is the literal truth. And im not surprised because ive had time living away from my family also, i make good use of the internet and ALSO im a healthy matured intp(now). XD
Would telling your partner you love them everyday be considered overly expressing emotions. Guess that depends on how people gauge expressing emotions in the first place, and if that's different for people it's not fair to judge.
I seriously have no idea if I'm INTP or INFP, I do a lot of the internal thinking stuff & am really analytical but I don't do the Fe thing really :x
I knew an intp in high school. He was incredibly intelligent but very absent minded. He was also very nice, like in a polite way but also into statistics and probability of things happening.
You start to see the world in a code this number equals this number which will lead to this it's interesting to watch and make it better but sometimes you forget to actually live
hello (intp here), this has nothing to do with anything you guys said in the video. Well kind of, but i'm mainly writing it here because i was inspired while watching your video. anyway, i noticed that people say intps are very detail oriented because we like to get to the root of the problem (saying we're more specialized). though to us, getting to the root means being lead to understanding it all. intps and intjs do the same thing (as far rhythm), but in a different way (as far as instruments).
intjs have many interests because they aren't likely to dig into the details, but will get into the "details" when it comes to applying something (physics) to a problem. they know the many ways to solve a problem in the physical world, but they may not be able to come up a theory to then apply. they are good at understanding how to apply, but not necessarily how to understand it.
intps get into the details of theory (metaphysics). both are detail oriented but in different ways. both enjoy being generalists but by different motivations. the intps motivation is because they get bored or have too many interests. whereas thee intjs motivation may be because they have many thing they want to get done, but they need to or would rather learn the skills themselves and take action. they are in love with how to apply it, not by being in love with the process. their fiery Ni-Te pushes them through with precision like a ball of fire. Ti-Ne engulfs with precision like an ocean of water.
as an INTJ the best satisfying conversation i have ever had was with a mature ISFJ.
As an INTP this video offends me on 3 levels. 1: the highly unorthodox color orientation of the puzzle cube in the preview. 2: I can tell on sight that that cube is unsolvable. And 3 that you made me engage in socializing via a UA-cam comment. Now my introvert battery will be depleted for the day. Lol thx😆
Yes this.
You know what the best trait about them is ? The one that appears on their forehead when you stop them in their argumentation saying "Ok, we agree to disagree".
My INTP Fe annoys my INTJ sister but otherwise, our relationship is great. I can be myself around INTJ. And, she's the smartest, funniest person I know.
Our father is ISTJ so when I'm with the two of them, my Fe is all the Fe there is!
All dads are istj's.
As an INTP, I would say that the INTP's inferior Fe is so from what you think it would be because we use Ti to copy and construct social interactions, so it looks as though we know how to interact socially: hello, thank you, good bye, and you're welcome copied, at least until you realize that hello and good bye are fundamental to communication (initiating and exiting). With customs, we would copy them (if they aren't too much trouble, like shaking hands) just so the other people don't get in a fuss. At least, this is true with me.
OML I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE
I hope what you say about Fe being copied to Ti is true. I seem to constantly construct imaginary conversations with someone I know in real life just so I can clarify my own thoughts and be more precise in my thinking, I even construct their questions or counter-points and try to answer them. I do this so often I struggle to sleep. I'm only trying to understand things, nothing personal against the other person.
INTJ is so cute she needs to give herself more credit, as an INFP my bestfriend is an INTJ and we are freakin inseparable
yeah I generally just talk about my emotions like I'd talk about any theory or when I'm feeling a strong positive emotion I'll say "it's magical" in a very deadpan manner because I know I should show my appreciation (and I want to) but I just don't know how to
Célia Collet it’s funny you mention that (having a go-to phrase for the times you have a deep positive emotional reaction or feeling) - my INTP ex would always say “how touching” in the deadpan manner you describe when he was obviously feeling some feels & was uncomfortable acknowledging them any other way 😂
- INFP
This channel has spot on examples man, other channels kind of just speculate what INTPs would be like whereas they have never seen one.
i'm intp, and while i was watching this video, i was wondering >>cats could be kind of intp in their ways no??
I've wondered the same thing. I asks my sister what the personality type of her cat was, and she and I laughed a lot. But, then I was like, "no, really!"
Ironically, I know for sure two INTPs in my life. As an ENFP, we relate on our Ne and can have fantastic conversation about concepts, politics and science. Their logic helps reign in my lack their of and opposite my wild ideas can break some preconceived notions they never questioned. That being said, I honestly mis-typed both of them because I felt they were very emotional and understanding. Both were two of the nicest guys I knew, but I really felt like they were emotional and relatable on that level. I think their Fe, being the weakest of their four cognitive functions, means that they are aware of what others are feeling, but can't always make sense of it. Like they see it, but don't always understand why it is or just how to react to it.
Michelle Wilson Do you want to participate on the open debate Thread?
Andrés Coar sure what's the link?
Michelle Wilson Its in one of the threads on this video.
Andrés Coar any way you could help narrow that down for me? There are like 200+ commentd
Michelle Wilson The best synthesis in my opinion would be watching the links in order.
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I think I'm an INTP, and I can relate strongly with this. I also love how you guys also talked about our lower functions, which are often left out of our type profiles, further feeding into stereotypes. Great channel, been learning a lot from you two!
Cool video. I'm a pretty emotionally expressive INTP : )
Finally a video specifically on INTPs! Felt like this type has been somewhat ignored on this channel, besides that guy you two think is actually an ISTP. Hopefully you are able to find a true unquestionably INTP type to converse with on this channel.
Coming from an INTP male that has a 60/40 score on Thinking and Feeling. Definitely can relate to INFPs a bit. Also have a very dominant Ne cognition. Sometimes I relate to ENTPs as well.
INFP: I interacted with an INTP in this video: ua-cam.com/video/AU3ZtRuyQ1E/v-deo.html&.
Timothy O If you wanna see Intp, Entp and Intj in action look at the debate thread (happy to have you if you wish)
Oh relating to entps is absolutely natural. I relate to entps a lot too. Im an intp-t
I don't know if you guys know this channel, but it has some potential complement to points that you mention in this video (and is pretty interesting in general):
- Communication is sometimes difficult between INTJs and INTPs: how INPs use/react to Ni ua-cam.com/video/CPpLC2S0m0A/v-deo.html (by mirroring the argument you have the same thing regading ITJs using Ti)
- What Se feels like as a PolR function. Fi as a role function (awkward politeness is not the expression of Fe!): ua-cam.com/video/FhOhWaCvlek/v-deo.html
All of that illustrating a bit the role of the so called shadow functions. One interesting thing Socionics says, is that INTPs and INTJs have the same strength in all functions (which makes them rather harmless to each other - can't push each other buttons when the PolR of one is the Inferior of the other). What differs between the two is which functions are valued, and which functions are conscious (valued: main, auxilary, teriary and inferior ; conscious: main, auxiliary, role and PolR).
I think that while valuing different functions sometimes creates communication problems ("you're doing it wrong! No, you're missing the main point"), the difference in conscious functions probably is the reason for the fascination and mystery we feel for each another. At least for me, how Alex feels about Ti is exactly how I feel about Ni.
I really like those two videos and I'm glad that you mentioned them. Before I saw the one Leon did on INTPs and Ni, I thought my other intuition was, for lack of a better term, human intuition. I didn't know that my other intuition was Ni. Leon's great!
As an INTP I often feel I don't fit into any physical space... I am often overanxious about my surroundings or not paying attention at all 😓. It's very insightful from infp to capture that feeling
I FUCKIN LOVE THIS CHANNEL. makes me wanna dance my funky dance
I'm and INTP, and my two best friends are an INFP and and INTJ
I don't relate to blind Se resulting in clumsiness though. I love dance classes, dancing anywhere. I feel very coordinated and graceful.
Cassella's Box its more about spacial unawareness if not concentrating.
Yes but, I am disagreeing with that. Spatial awareness is one of my gifts!
My experience of Se PolR has been more like what "TypeTips" has described (Lambert Caron posted a link to that video here in the comments).
Cassella's Box ok, I'll look at it thanks
ever thought maybe thats just you and not all intps are the same..
6:09 I think the word that you’re looking for is antidisestablishmentarianism. It’s an actual term. It had something to do with churches in the Middle Ages.
I have an anxiety disorder so I'm always caught in that rut where I can't think clearly and have to rely on my weaker functions and make irrational decisions and say dumb things, just to think about it a few minutes later and know what I should have done or said. It's torturous
Henry McQuilling meditation may help?
Unfortunately, meditation isn't always the answer. Different methods work for different people.
Listen you derogatory piece of shit, it was the only option he mentioned so I assumed that he was saying that other methods wouldn't be as likely to work as meditation for most people with anxiety disorders, not that meditation is the only thing that works 100% of the time for everyone with anxiety disorders. And I meant that if that's the case, then I disagree with that since different methods may prove just as likely to be effective as meditation for some people. Anyway, I'm sick of people starting petty arguments that prove how small they are so get lost.
Haha lmao now you're just resorting to the old "accusing people of being emotional when they don't have anything left to say" trick. *yawn* I think it's clear by now that I've won. You can go cry into your mommy's lap now.
As an INTP, the personality type of these girls is very appealing.
All I ever see with INTPs in comment sections is either conflicts, criticisms, a crazy long analysis of the video or trolling. While ENTPs can be like this, I find I get good laugh out of them -- they are able to make things more lighthearted. I see the positives to both of their communication styles though.
These are just my observations from comment sections... have literally nothing against INTPs :)
Kenny M They feel pressure to appear intellectual, haha. Or to appear like they rebel against said pressure. It's a losing game honestly.
Neo D'Lehoko why would you say that is?
Andrés Coar since we can't display our good looks on UA-cam comments, it has to be our brains. Not ideal but...
But on a serious note, I think INTPs express themselves better in gifs and memes. Writing platforms are just an invitation to blab on for ages. Or say something cryptic, that only 2 people will understand.
You know this could be an interesting topic: How each type behaves in the comments
Ikr I’m an intp but I noticed that too which is why I stopped commenting like that
I'll tell you why you notice this tendency.
Intps highest goal is truth, and to find truth you must have clarity, and to have clarity you must use precise language. Many UA-cam videos are not sufficiently precise... so intps feel a need to use comments to clarify the pints of the video.
Done poorly this can be seen as an attack.
Two seconds in, I could tell who is INFP and who is INTJ.
Probably your dad has hit his head on a lot of doorframes. My dad is 6'4", and he has explained that he has learned to measure doorframes and ceilings while walking, so I think he looks awkward moving around sometimes. That might just be a tall person thing. 🤔
they're great! INTPs also dislike small talk and would talk to you all day on the internet or irl if you ever do get the chance to meet one.
We walk weird like we're disconnected from our external bodies... I felt that.
INTP's role function is Fi so, yes, we display politeness. Apparently though, using it turns off our Ti. :(
Cassella's Box you mean Fe
Soooo true about understanding an INTP's process but having total different content we grapple with. - infp
*sultry singing* Aaaaat laaaaast ~ (Also good way to get INTPs watching, have a cat. Should have made it the thumbnail.)
Hanyway: I've just realized, of all types, I have a very strong interest in and fascination with INFPs and INTJs! And INTPs, but that's the usual self interest.. But yeah, I don't really know why, considering I feel like I would have a difficult time connecting to them? (Like seeing a cat and liking it, and wanting it to like you, BUT YOU CANT MAKE A CAT LIKE YOU. I'm just an INTP girl with zero volition and nothing but memes for jokes).
I'm trying to figure out why these two in particular: Intuitive interests for one, that's already a pretty big field; social awkwardness, high independence, hidden wisdom... I dunno. Something. And Fi! I find myself really envying Fi users (doesn't have to be dom or aux), Fe feels like a bane to my life, I wish I didn't care T_T I spent my entire childhood thinking I was fake because I thought I had no actual identity beyond my social masks, which I now understand, but man; these issues are bound to show up somewhere, lol. I try to "perform" Fi sometimes, by being all "as with the heart, so with the eyes" and stuff, but I crumble as soon as anyone even begins to interact with me. Because heaven forbid they dislike me and we ***conflict***
But yeah, INFPs can do no wrong - so to speak - in my eyes. Like cats. They can destroy everything and I'll still find it adorable. INTJs are so intimidating, and confident and weirdly forceful (or maybe willful is a better word), buts its kinda hot? Like you get chills when you see them, but it's defo the good kind? I don't know how to explain this without it sounding creepy, so I'll end it there.
Good one! This channel is a serious goldmine, so thanks :) Can't wait for the celebrity typing thing.
INFP: Had no idea so many INTPs like cats!
I hate cats
Neo D'Lehoko embrace your shadow Entj. It doesn't come often, and its exhausting but o boii its great.
I think this correlates with 5 being Intp and Intj mainly. My claim would be that 5 Intj have a more direct aversion to physical reality whilst Intp 5 would feel overwhelmed by emotions of others.
If you're interested check Conscious Tv youtube channel on enneagram. Specially Faisal Muqqadam and A.H Almaas.
Andrés Coar This poem is too deep, I don't understand
Andrés Coar Yeah, you know, you'd think I'd be more interested in ENTJs, but somehow I'm not. Not intensely anyway.
But I think with my Se and Fi being where they are... I mean Se can seem so immoral to me; which is interesting, I need to think about that some more. I don't really know enough about Enneagram to make much comment about it, but the books are in my cart so... soon.
Do many INTJs relate to 5?
😅 the big five personality traits make so much more sense, whether you think or feel depends on your mood, high neuroticism might make you fall back on irrationality more and openness might too. When anyone is emotionally calm and stable they think rationally. Everyone thinks and feels!
A somewhat charitable (not that I'm complaining) -but- and quite informative presentation. Chuckled several times at the cat-induced distractions and thought "that cat would have to be a leopard to distract me" - so we have something in common.
-intp
Yup. That's sounds right. Analysis of word origins leads to a use of words in ways that others don't naturally look at from the surface..
"because their fe is so low they will never try to convince you" please elaborate on this further.
Please yes, I gotta know
We won’t try to convince you because it’s pointless because everything is theoretical and ever changing and we don’t even have all the answers even tho we seek them so we feel it’s unfair to really push our half baked ideas out there to others as facts or important when we are still learning and studying... and there is just no simple answer for most questions.
@@emoXcore09 sometimes I try to convince people, but then if I succeed I feel kinda guilty.
Suppressing the urge to say “I told you so.” Story of the INTP
08:18 - Heck yes. While no, I'm never at parties, I do this all the time at work. I work at a small highway hotel, and whenever I'm off work, I say bye to my fellow waiters, I go say bye to the kitchen and I go and say bye to the receptionists. THEN I can leave.
INTP’s have good Ne but we’re kind of boring because unlike ENTP’s our Fe doesn’t come out as much to charm. It’s just exploration of truth.
I'm not sure if I'm a hyper INTP, but I've never felt like I don't show my emotions so much as I don't feel much emotionally at all. I have no problem crying in front of people, but for some reason, I'm far more consistently moved by fictional stories (Pixar and such) than I am by real life.
I was actually really depressed for a couple years because I felt like I was a spectator in my own life-- not because I couldn't control things, but because I was rarely truly excited, sad, or anything. I just learned to mimic behaviors. People assume I'm bottling things up, but while I have been getting better about actually feeling things, for the most part, I still feel like an android who's mostly confused by emotions.
P.S. I'm a 22-year-old boy (for anyone wanting context.)
I definitely make up my own words or phrases a lot.
My username is one...my name's Bonnie do when I feel all over the place, yep.
INTJ'S can give recommendations if a person needs help .INTP'S will tell you that it is inconsistent but will not give recommendations so that is one way to compare and contrast between INTJ'S and INTP'S.
11:12 cat ear looks like bug on screen . Ah!! Get it off
Oh god i was thinking same Lmfao
I see, I guess this is why I am more popular with older people than with my peers, they often tell me that I am too formal, or overly polite.
Lol. I got the point where we actually looks that awkwardly on behaving. Cuz we truly have our own reality. Its like how u see ourselves in reality is totally different compared to how we define a look of ours.. in conclusion we dont even seem to fit in phisical world
I like you guys both INTJ and INFP:) you are cool people
Intp here today there’s a birthdayparty I really have to think about it I don’t want to go because I know I’ll be very exhausted after some time especially because I don’t know most of the people there but a small part in me wants to go idk
I only noticed the cats tail, what was the video about?
Who belongs to the cat? What is the cat's name? Tell me more about your charismatic, click-bait cat. Will cat be back for more episodes? :-)
INFP: I hope Odessa will be back! Though she's most likely an ESFP so it's really up to her :)
Who belongs to the cat? I don't know if you said that on purpose but I found it actually hilarious!
Am I wrong to assume you 2 are making this video in front of others? I guess possibly camera operators or just spectators?
I think intp's are aware but don't care. If someone is not interested, or doesn't have time, will say so.
The INTP turned this off when they started talking to the cat 20 seconds in
Before I knew anything about MBTI I used to explain to people that it's not a case of me not feeling things but that I have the ability to completely suppress and ignore my emotions, whether they are negative or positive.
I could just think to myself "this thing hurts, fuck that" and I'd put it in a box, push it into the closet of bad thoughts and close the door. Easy, all gone. I could switch my thoughts to something else and go on with my life.
There is of course the problem that you never actually solved the issue but just ignored it and that closet will slowly fill up more and more until the door that keeps them locked away comes flying off the hinges but that's a rare occurrence.
The problem (for anybody in the surroundings) is that it doesn't have to be anything serious that triggers that explosion, it only has to be the last drop that overflows the entire lake and whoever is responsible for that last drop is going to receive everything.
Also everything you have ever said or done since the beginning of time that I had pushed into that closet and just ignored is going to come out at the same time.
You have probably forgotten 90% of the things, but I sure didn't.
Haha...it's verry true that INTP's interact with people in a thought way. For instance, I don't like party's...way too socially! But, I know how to react and what is suspected of a social interaction. It can be hard and sweaty ;)
The cat is definitely the best part of the video. INTPs are pretty much like cats tho
At the intro..I was like ...”*serious mode* (and then) That’s a cat’s tail.....Oh! IT IS A CAT’S TAIL HELLOOOOoooO~ Kitty! Cute.”
Love the video btw~ (From an INTP (๑･̑◡･̑๑))
It sucks being a jumper, nobody talks about your type... I'm still considered an INTP but I'm Ti/Ni not Ti/Ne...
INTP usually have a good Ni though. It's their critic/6th function based on Socionics.
@@aonaohafa Based on Jung there are only 4 functions: F,T,N,S and they can be pointed inwards (introverted) or outwards (extroverted). Jung invented the terms introverted and extroverted to speak about the 4 functions.
INTPs usually point their iNtuition outwards.
BTW, the term critic was coined by Dr. Bebee not by socionics.
I think we tend to reach the same conclusions by taking opposite pathways.
People will hate me in real life lmao
I'm a dog person... but I like cats anyways too so oh well lol.
Also I'm an INTP too and this vid makes me so happy internally haha ^_^
I’m an INTP and I found an INTJ with two other ENTP and INTP friends in high school and my dad is an INTJ. In college I was friends with ESFJ’s ESFP’s ENFP’s and ENFJ’s cause I behaved more like an XNTP like ENTP. But now I think of myself as an INXP and so my INFP side has basically made me...feel like happy in the moment feelings I’m going insane please help lol
Sometimes I talk to people about simple theoreticals and randomly tie it in to any theory I have because I’m trying to create one perfect theory of everything so I may be telling you about plutonomy and relating that to Sacha Inchi oil and ultimately end up relating it to Gödel’s incompleteness theorem.
This is so weird
My sister is an intj and I'm an intp and we're both very similar
It's kind of funny to see how she sees me
Apparently FE feline works well with ED edibles along with GI giggles...
Informative but hard to take seriously.
I'm an INTJ who's been waiting for my fellow INTJ to reply to my messages, it's because i just got one tick
I'm an INTP, an in my opinion, INTJs are so cool, and INFPs are fucking adorable :)
I met a Intp/Infp person today and I'm suposedly an Infp. Soo we went biking and all I heard was him talking to me from his bike and like it was difficult to hear much lol. I dunno but it was difficult to communicate in general. I hardly could understand that person. Towards the end he asked when I'll go back hiking and probably hinting he wanted to tag along but like we hardly talked or anything so even the thought of that person as a new friend.. well I couldn't connect to that. Felt bad but I just find our personalities didn't connect. Probably won't meet again but I was curious so I came here. @.@
!I COULDN'T FOCUS! Sorry, but I couldn't complete the first 3 minuets
I can’t watch this. I don’t know why but I’m annoyed by high voices.
Oh yeah that's a real thing in psychology. My social skills counsellor told me about it.
INTP here. Gotta be honest (cuz that's what we do), I had to tap out of this video at the 3 minute mark. Listening to y'alls meandering rambling hurts my brain. Perhaps you made a point at the 14 min mark, I'll never know because I'm not a masochist. There is a slight chance that my prejudice caused me to miss out on something truly transcedent, but I'll bet a billion bucks I ain't wrong.
Is the cat an INTP?
I like how these individuals kind of are the way they look. Like in cartoon theory, the character like a bully is easy to identify. This may be useless to others.
I dk about other intps but I understand intjs perfectly well - they just usually get lost when it comes to the logic aspect and that's where the communication error happens: the intj
Can u be both INTP and INTJ? Coz i feel like im in between... Im really unsure :/