Are you ever told “I thought you’d be more excited” when something happens and you don’t react super excited? You’re happy but you’re processing it, yet people take it as you’re not excited for them. It’s weird to feel so “even” and non responsive, but if something makes you feel passionate, nothing will stop you and you’re actually more vocal than others, which is shocking because you don’t understand why people are clamming up and not voicing anything towards injustice, or whatever seems unfair. I still don’t know what I am but this seems the closest.
(Waves late to the party flag) I have to fake my enthusiasm 99% of the time that something has my interest, which I probably shouldn't do. But it's part of the process of getting me to feel more socially in tune with my life. From what I can tell of my progress so far, it's nice but I still feel a bit out of touch. The purpose is to supposedly get people to know a bit more of my inner self based on my reactions, but if I'm effortfully pushing it, it's less genuine. Although there is some merit to it, such as my human body being less awkwardly expressing said genuine enthusiasm when the time comes.
See, sometimes when it comes to those scenarios where people want you to look excited, I tend to fake it: not because I'm not happy or not grateful, I just don't want to make them think that I didn't appreciate it. Opening Christmas presents can kinda be like that sometimes because I just don't know what to say or do so I put on a fake smile and pretend a little. Unless it's something really surprising, then it catches me off guard and I react. 😅
INFJ female here. I second the "not being in touch with my own feelings" thing. I can also compartmentalize / shut off my feelings / easily control how and when I actually feel my feelings. For example, if I find out about something really terrible in my personal life but have a lot of work to get done in a day, I will set aside the emotion until I have time and space to let myself actually feel it. I don't let it get in the way of finishing my work / getting things done that I need to. Love this video!! :) You are both adorable
It’s true for me as well , it can take us a while to know how we truly feel about someone....and yeah INFJs are more cold on the inside than most people think .
this sounds more like a intp. They truly can focus work in sh*t falling apart situations. Versus- Infjs - who feel deeply even if they are cool minded they still feel deeply, just before they need to overthink and overly analyze what they feel before they are certain what it is, but the emotions they accumulate don’t make it easy for them to work actually.
I 100% relate, and I did that compartmentalizing just an hour ago. There was a moment that made me feel sad/nervous and I was able to put it aside and move on. Otherwise, the “not computing emotions” thing is also something I have-it take me a while to realize I feel an emotion. In fact, I usually have to actively think about how I’m feeling to actually know
"INTJ's are colder on the outside, but INFJ's are colder on the inside..." LOL. Too true. Of course, it's nuanced, and one must factor in a delayed emotional response, as opposed to concluding a lack thereof because an emotional response isn't intense and immediate; but I know exactly what you meant, very well put haha. Also, dang, forgot your name INFP! But very well put on your understanding of the introverted function, whether F / T, being a central characteristic of self-identity and indicative of one's inner life, whereas the extroverted function is what is SEEN to characterise a person and may not necessary - especially if an Introverted type.
@@pucokie He. Inside I really really care, outside I act as if I really care, while at the time the emotions associated with caring are dead inside me (well, until ten years after the event, then I feel those emotions of caring at a time I've forgotten what those emotions were originally meant to be attached to, and that's when I die). A little bit Gandhi on the outside, and dash of Gandhi clothed with Hitlers jacket on the inside.
I know an infj that doesn't have a cutesy look at all. She's opposite! Very strong looks. But then her body movements are so feminine, bubbly and dainty its ridiculous😄. It is soooo cute! Lol. I love it.
interesting that the infp sees intjs as more 'bleeding heart' than infjs (who might seem so on the surface) -- totally agree. my ex bf is an intj and always accused me of being 'cold', although he isn't very emotionally expressive in social situations and & I am (and sentimental, almost). but the feelings he reserved for me were very deep & I couldn't match them.
My grandfather just passed away and because of covid I wasn’t able to be with my family. I wasn’t showing my feelings outwardly. It was only when I got on the phone and heard my fathers sadness that I was able to cry. I cry instantly when someone in front of me does, but if I am the only one effected by something, I almost never cry.
Yeah so true about being cold. I’ve had moments where I’ve had conflict with friends and they have asked me “do you care?” Because I’m trying to process what they’re saying in a logical way so I’m not demonstrating any emotions outwardly. Also, this has to do with what Pucokie alluded to: how it’s hard to determine the emotions I’m feeling at the moment. Lovely video!
Idk if this is an INFJ thing that anyone else can relate to but when I've gone through a really emotional situation (usually a panic attack of some kind that was built up over time), my emotions just suddenly shut off. It's like Ti takes over and says "you're done with this" and I just flatline. I had one of those the other night and I also realized that I just suddenly could not stop drinking water and that I was extremely cold but didn't feel like changing that. I think that was also Se taking over. Also, while I've never actually been broken up with, when I was younger, I was talking to someone who I thought was THE ONE and then one day, he just suddenly ended it. While I sort of saw coming a little, I never knew for sure because I have a hard time accurately using my Ni-Fe prediction for myself. The whole day after, I was talking to people about what happened and everyone was so worried that I wasn't okay and that I was devastated but I wasn't. I painted my wall that day and decorated it and actually kinda felt free. I told everyone i was okay because I felt completely numb and convinced myself I was happy because my "ex" was. Then all of the sudden, I listened to an emotional, romantic song and it hit me like a ton of bricks and suddenly I was consumed with just pure devastation. I didn't get over it for about half a year but I constantly kept shutting my feelings out and convincing myself that I wanted other people instead. Let me know if there are similar experiences out there. Also I was practically shouting "YES YES YES" at my screen at 11:39 idk how but I understood that.
The infj is both 'romanza' by andrea bocelli and 'hard knock life' by jay z. Thats probably the best way I could describe our emotion/coldness paradigm and the closest I could get someone to experience what infj emotions are like. We feel, even sporadically, deep emotion and romance in a simple leave on the ground in the fall or timelessness at the site of a once occupied and now empty room and yet at other times simply like bad mfs. Its conflicting. At least for me as a male infj.
@@DanielDavidAllenChannel haha I love this comment! Exactly; the meloncholy nature of an INFJ. Beautiful but sad. Beautifully sad perhaps. And yet not always. Mercifully a cold numb. Not a feeling. And then the pumped estp like side of us. Especially after coffee ;) but we are playful to. We enjoy people tremendously. Fe parent.
I relate to this completely. Some might see it as distant and out of touch, but i tend to see it as the opposite. We're more connected to things in a very strange way. Wouldn't agree with "Mercifully a cold numb", but "beautifully sad" hits it on the mark. We can see beauty in things most don't even seem to notice. It can be alienating at times, but i also relate to people more than anybody else i know. Contradictory would be an understatement.
This is a great video, again Calypso! I love how you edit, it really helps me maintain my focus. I laugh when people don't know which they are, INFx, however, I can see how people get them confused if they do not know the functions behind it. Although, dating an INFJ for four years and having an INFP sister.... I know better than many how very, very, very different the two are. This is a great conversation to watch because you both know the cognitive functions so well and can recognize it. Very fun to watch!
Michelle Wilson yet turns out your sister is ISFP , as you can see jumping to fast conclusions give wrong results , but i still understand , Ne like experiments and experiences more than deep truth based on good knowledge.
Interesting comparisons to infj and istp - there's definitely a lot of similarities. My sister is istp and even though we're really different as people and live our lives in very different ways, there's some deep shared understanding that underlies the two. Also, interestingly, Nardi's research on ECGs of brain types of differing mbtis showed that an older infj and istp, while very different brain functioning style when younger, are almost indistinguishable as age
Damnit why is there so few people in my life who understand MBTI well amd want to have conversations aboit it. I almost want to start a channel just so I can have conversations like this.... They're so damn interesting. Also when i saw the title for this video... I thought it was going to be a video about how she was typed wrong and i was like What!?!.... She as well... Nooooooooooooo
Is pucokie' s pattern of eye contact indicative of INFJs? I ask because I've noticed I also look up ALOT when I'm talking and thinking, and otherwise look all around when I'm talking, then every once in a while back to the person I'm talking to. However, when they're talking, my eyes are always fixed directly on them.
Oh no! The pair broke up. Well, she seems to be doing alright so I won't harp on it. Great interview. Like how you guys were looking at a scenario and comparing how you handle it. Very good way to see the difference. I find it funny that I related more to how she described dealing with emotions than the way you described it even though I'm ENFP.
To any INFJ’s out there. If you want to find a gathering place, look up INFJ Sanctuary Amino. Hope to see you all there and help you realize you’re not alone in how your weird mind works. Sincerely, Guardian Blade.
Care glow Not necessarily true. Harmony also means subjecting yourself and others to societal norms. A thousand years ago, that would mean intense homophobia, sexism and racism- all to “keep order”. Fi and authenticity on the other hand is built upon a strong internal framework of morals that don’t bend to the whims of society.
Okay, I'm not even finished with the video but I have to comment! I commented on one of your other videos and mentioned how I'm not even sure they're really an infj. But this chick, I can believe she's an infj! The way that when she's talking she doesn't look at who she's talking to, but rather kind of stares blankly or stairs up and to the side a little. It's because it feels almost impossible to look at somebody and engage in our thinking process at the same time. So our eyes disengage to think, and then re-engage with who were talking to when were done thinking so deeply, or when we're listening. I feel like it can be different though if we're talking about something we've already given a lot of thought to, because we don't actually have to think so deeply in the moment when we're talking about it. I actually feel kind of self-conscious about the fact that I do that, because after I'm done I recognize that did it, but even though I would like to improve that factor it feels impossible. Also how she's not afraid to express her emotion. Like a lot of people that are trying to be infj feel like they can't express their emotion or something. Which I think is a problem with the typology, because people accidentally start thinking, I'm this type therefore this is what I do, rather than I do this therefore I'm this type. Everyone needs to just be themselves and screw the types. And then whatever type you end up being by being yourself cool, use that to maybe help explain yourself better to somebody. I'm totally gonna go check out her channel! keep bein YOU!
This helps alot...Last year I was typed as INTJ and INFJ and after a year,as my MBTI obsessions(kinda😂) began,I always felt like I relate so much to traits of INFPs...so I checked around many sites and videos,took tests again and again,but I always got INFJ...but I just wanna clear this doubts,I just can't stop thinking it,it's always in my head...and this video helps alot alongwith the former video with the male INFJ...and what you mentioned,INFJs are colder than INTJs in the core really clears some of my doubts and guilts,because I always thought that's because I am a bad person,you know I am not really aware of what I really am before,so I ended up having sooo many guilts and blame myself for so much things that happened to me and people around me...I know it's kinda scattered but I wanna write it right now,sorry😁 I'm always in a war with myself between logic and feelings like I know I have to be rational and I know the right things to do,but I know what how it would effect others and the atmosphere,but I found myself more tending to my logical side sometimes,I guess I'm more of an NiTi than NiFe...omg I don't know how to say it,sorry for this scattered post....Thank you for this video...this kind of discussions really are helpful👍👍
You sound like the one infj guy friend of mine when he opens up and gushes about his finding himself revelations to me 😊✌ he grew up in a cultural standard he felt like conflicted with his true expression of himself. So he felt like he hadn't developed himself.
The Fe/Fi conversation and comparison you guys have here was super helpful for me! The mentions of INTJ also helped me understand some family members better. Thx guys!
I love Emily!!! I still relate to so much you both described about infj’s, but I’ve been testing as intj lately. I’m still on my path to self discovery, so this was definitely some useful information to take into account. You two are so cute together, so I’d love to see more videos like this on either channel!
This video reminded me of me (INFJ) and my INFP friend's analogies for the way we think. She told me I was like a powerful PC (high computing power) because I could perceive patterns in things that made me draw conclusions that a lot of times were correct (like multiple inputs processed to produce an output). To me, everything was connected. Continuing with the IT metaphor, I told her she was like a database or a search engine. She was a storehouse of feelings and memories, which makes her a formidable reservoir of information. To her (IMO), the world only makes sense through this huge database. She went on with this metaphor and said yeah, like Google, I need a prompt (search keywords) before I go on to access my data vault. I don't remember how it fit into the INFP functions though. As for the other parts of the video, I agree with most, if not all, of what both of them said. My INFP friend told me that I was the most rational feeler she knows but that I also knew how and when to adjust the mix of feelings and logic when talking to another person. I also have a lag time between understanding the effect of events on my feelings. I realized that it's better to bring it out in the open (talking to INFP friend, singing, journaling, reading articles about what happened) because it clutters my mind and that making sense of how I feel makes me know what to do about it (let it be, suppress, reduce, eliminate). Additionally, when I'm with other people, I tend to be more gregarious (more so when people are having fun), which is my Fe side coming out to play. I also agree that wanting and expressing the desire to be unique is more an Fi trait than an Fe one. While I liked that INFJs were supposedly rare, it was more of relief because it made sense now that I found it hard to find other people who had the same thought process as I do. My INFP friend admitted that she had (in her words) conflicting desires of wanting to be unique and wanting to be validated by people. I'm sorry for the overlong comment (post). I was just glad to see another INFJ and an INFP/INFJ dialogue and contrasting aspects of each. There are a few things that could be added though. The Ne-Ni differences and the Se-Si differences were barely mentioned. The Ti was discussed but there was no contrasting discussion for Te. I also wanted to hear more about INFJ stereotypes and boy, there are a lot. Nevertheless, I really loved and enjoyed the content of this video. Thanks a lot! 😁
Oh my God externalising my ideas is so relatable. I remember I had an idea come together for a new art piece and as soon as I knew it was formed I rang both my parents consecutively to share the good news I was so excited! I'm pretty sure I am infj. Thank you both for this video ❤️
Loved this!! Concise, and right on point, you really get the feel of the INFJ. About the over-emphasis on the INFJ as special dark angel snowflake, I think the stereotype of the INFJ is the INFJ type 4. Or maybe enneagram type 4s love to see themselves as INFJs?
Feelings? INFJ don't have personal feelings only personal thoughts. Ok kinda joking but Our feelings are in some ways the average of all people in that context. If context change INFJ will reflect that in their responses. But the timeline thing makes it so we don't forget the actual context as it relates to our collection of self including our Ti about the Se... also the timeline is oddly not escapable so its not fair that other types aren't burdened by this!
Good Morning Ladies and as always, it is a pleasure to listen to your channel. I'm newish to this and I am an INTJ female of "a certain age". I wander around the channels and enjoy watching such amazing and smart young people (s) lol, living in such an exciting time. When you two mention that INTJ's appear colder but INFJ's are perhaps colder inside (4:30 ) I recognized that and can see it, but as I understand the difference between us, the INTJ's and your INFJ types is that since our INTJ auxiliary function of Fe (valuing and belonging to the tribe) is not developed until our late 20's or maybe even the 40's for some of us, we will always be slightly immature in that regards. Once in a while, I get my feelings hurt and zoom! zwoosh!...I am ten years old again. Not logical but human. You guys have the advantage in that your feelings are mature and Te is also your instinctual cognitive skill set. Your Te or Thinking just needs time and experience. Plus the gift of hindsight, which is what I now have found and wish for all of you. Huzzah to a terrific toothsome twosome, and an awkward one-armed INTJ hug for everyone!
15:20 - "Ok I am done talking now" LOL....it is so weird to see someone else do that. I do that to. It is really hard for me to close out a conversation when I'm done.
Funny thing is I also can't compute until much later if someone dies, but if I watch a sad commercial I might cry unexpectedly haha. And I might also relate to the pattern of getting hurt by someone, and then the last straw comes and then it hits me unexpectedly. But on the other hand I might have some associations from the past. Bottom line people are beautifully complex. When you mentioned spider web like a tunnel, i could visualize it immediately in an abstract, nebulous way, but then it immediately made me think of a huge spider trying to spin me in a web, and I was filled with fear I've felt before.
@Psycho Pass this is where we need accuracy..... get to the real issue there... statistics say something but we choose to ignore some bias of these on purpose to get where we want to go... Most of the statistics I've seen aren't complete, it doesn't dismiss the principle of the statistic. Though, if we test all people on earth, it's not statistics anymore.... it's counting ;-D
People think that INFJ's cant be successful ? Lol what?? I can kind of understand why people might think that INFJ's arent ambitious. But being successful is a different thing than being ambitious. Doesnt INFJ's want people to realize their all talents, full capasity also help them doing that? So i think its really normal for an INFJ to do the same thing for herself/himself. (btw i think infj's can be ambitious too i just say that i can see why people might think the otherwise.)
I sometimes think of Ni as a downward spiral, but I like the interconnected web metaphor. I compose songs sometimes and it takes extra effort to figure out what I’m feeling to write lyrics. I imagine if I was an INFP, that would be an easier process. I’ve been to funerals and I feel kind of detached. Emotions always hit when I’m alone, well after the event that sparked it. I also use Ti quite a bit and was mistyped as ISTP 20 years ago. Anyhow, I love INTJ’s am I’m partnered up with one. I relate to INTJ’s and ENFJ’s the most.
the way I see my processing of emotions as an INFJ is something like this: something happens to cause an emotion in me --> without being able to put a name to it or, as calypso put it, "file" it somewhere internally, the outward expression of that emotion comes out --> i have thoughts running through my head that cause the outward emotions to continue --> after the whole event, i find myself still unable to address which emotion it was, and i can only remember a select few of the thoughts i was having that caused -AN EMOTION-, regardless of what the emotion actually was i wrote this specifically with negative emotions in mind, because i tend to cry very easily lol but the crying isn't caused from the emotion itself it's caused from the THOUGHTS, if that makes any sense
I personally think Emily is INTP (Ti/Si). 1. The focal point of the vast majority of her videos are related people, not things (sensory or concepts), and it's mostly about struggles between you and everyone else. "People related content" includes interviews. That focus on the struggles of people vs you is IxxP & ExxJ talk 2. It shows that she's struggled with people around her in the past (demon Fe) more than she has struggled with identity, or chaos or fear of control. Moreover, feelings are kinda strange to her. She needs reasons (T) for those feelings to make sense. She says things like "I know this is blunt/insensitive to ask someone, but I want to know why you think of me this way" in her videos. 3. She's quite solid on the facts, the known ones (Si). She doesn't do all these abstract paintings and when she tries she doesn't go on about them or push them (you can see that in the web/tunnel analogy here and her other videos). But her main struggle isn't so much loss of control or anything, she's balanced on that. Additionally, the majority of her videos are like fact reports: "this happened, and people said (this), and I did (this)." She doesn't jump to assumptions and again is very solid on her sensory Bottomline, Emily is very sure of her identity through reasons, struggled with understanding people's feelings in the past (it shows that she's a lot better at it now, though!), prioritises T over F, and is solid on her known facts (Si). She's quite calm and introverted, and she'll peacock about not being too serious sometimes in streams, haha. I think Emily is quite interesting and calming, please don't scold me for not thinking she's INFJ!
I've never related more to anything then Pucokie talking about how you have to see a pattern of behaviour in order to work out your emotion in hindsight.
I definitely feel like INFJs and INFPs have great chemistry. The Ne from INFPs is so damn attentive to our Ni. I love it. It's interesting seeing the difference though with Ne parent in INTPs. It comes across as mean, especially when they stomp on one of my ideas!
You're both so cute really. I'm an INFJ, I know I knoww I'm rare :P I love your goofy personalities, this reveals how good-hearted you are. just subscribed hoped to see more of positive videos like this. chow adios I'm done :p
I got the same visual of the tunnel with the spider webs, except mine was one huge spider web. And I prefer INFP. So interesting to see the contrast between the INFJ and INFP types. :)
I never got the thing about INFJ's being 'so ultra rare', since the difference in amounts (percentages) compared to a lot of other intuitive types is so small. As far as the statistics are right at least least - since I find INFJ's much more common than for example ENFJ's in reality. I've asked about 8 people this same thing, and most of them knew more INFJ's than ENFJ's...Not that this means anything in terms of proove of course, but ...is there even anyone who knows more ENFJ's than INFJ's?
no but i have an enfj friend that says enfjs often mistype as infj because (according to her) enfj have more need of downtime/self time and are also very sensitive to how other extroverts act (very extroverted) so they get the idea that they are introverted even though by any outside measure they are clearly extroverted.
I'd second I think a few ENFJs do type as INFJs as besides the stereotypes ENFJs tend to be quite socially introverted give the specificity of Fe-Se and more divergent types are invested in their Ni-Ti (CPT). I'm a cognitive ENFJ (typed by CPT) and I've met very few ENFJs; slightly more INFJs but the difference is quite negligible in percentage. I think many think they can't be an ENFJ due to the misperception that Ti is somehow inferior when the reality is my FeTi axis is 50/50; if I hadn't have been typed I would've considered myself a Ti or Ni dominant. As Ni is the authority function I'm sure this can be conflated for being an Ni dom too
Such an interesting topic for me personally. I'm an INFJ my sister is INFP and mother is an ISTP Yes, infjs and istps are similar and often confused as the same on the outside give our quiet nature and physicality Se. An infj cant hang with the istp all day though if having to do physical labor because our Ni hero disrupts everything. Not like lazy but slower because we are in our head and our movents almost become meditative (our minds are turning a thought that is not a present situation) and istps are using Ti hero to problem solve and then jump on it with Se parent.
After multiple personality tests and UA-cam research I'm about 90% sure I'm an INFJ. Because it's apparently so rare (and with males even more) I dont think I'll ever truly feel I am so in touch with the emotion of others with a high level of emotional intelligence but strangely disconnected in how it translates to how I connect to it on a personal level. Because INFJs are very strong on values, basing decisions on how I connect to values vs emotion provides a security against the trend and keeps me free to internalize and translate my truth. Btw that ending was deliciously awkward.
I got types as an infj, but I looked more into the other types and I found a connection with infp and intj, I took the test again and got infj. Lol I secretly want to be an intj
I get that web of tunnel analogy. Its not just a tunnel, it is made from complex abstract informations that connects with each other to create that one vision of possibility.
I'm an ENFP and I also don't compute emotions straight away in a serious situation. It's like delayed; I can't register it. Also I really like INFJ's. This girl here, the INFJ, she seems so composed, but if you look closely she is shaking. She can seem cold, and partially is, but is feeling far more than you would believe just by looking at her. The way she squints her eyes to listen to what casual cognition has to say, like she's trying hard to memorise it so she can analyse it. She's fixating on an idea, while so many ideas are being thrown at her. That's a big difference between an INFJ and ENFP, is that an ENFP struggles to focus on a particular thing, this is why they can't seem composed, because they're always jumping back and forth on ideas. Whereas an INFJ has so many questions, so many thoughts, but can think of many things while simultaneously listening and fixating on something someone is saying; the ultimate multitaskers. This reminds me of a scene on Skins (UK version ofc). But us ENFP's do the analysing thing as well. We do the squinting thing to listen as well. XD She has such cold but such gazeful eyes, always searching which gives them their magic. She looks up as she's envisioning her ideas come to life so she can explain them, though she has such a feeling about them that she can't describe.
So insightful, so can identify with the young lady that is an Infj. I hate the saying the ( rare type). All people are unique and wonderfully formed. Glad to know that getting in touch with how I feel and express the emotions. It easy to interact with other feelings and emotions but connecting my own not so good.
How she keeps on saying, "I don't really know how to describe that" or "it's so hard to describe it" is actually really an INFJ thing... (and weak Fi in general).
Lol.. Same with me.. My grandpa died in Feb and I didn't actually realize he died until June even though I knew he died in Feb. Lol.. I feel like I'm a typical infj. I resonate with almost everything you say. And whenever I'm in emotional pain, I feel it, but once I'm done I actually can laugh about really easily.. Like it didn't even matter.
Its interesting to see how infj's can come across kinda cold and calculated in their youtube videos. You generally don't see how they would behave around people but this video gives you an insiggt into how they usually present themselves. She seems very social and warm here which is not something most people might exoect from infj's if you get your information from youtube. I recognise a lot of myself in her
so like i think i’m an infj, the thing about infj’s being more cold on the inside i understand it but i have a question. when you say it’s hard for us to feel emotions in the moment i get like yes sometimes i feel emotions from a commercial but then don’t feel them so much at a funeral per day. but i wonder why do you say that we don’t feel as deep on the inside? like the intj’s i know feel really deep just don’t express it, and we are sort of the opposite. but personally i feel like i feel really deep for those i love, like i can physically feel it and emotionally feel it, though i may not feel it at times and can be cold or not care after expressing it at times, i don’t think that deep feeling ever goes away it’s just i can turn it off. it’s not even a voluntary thing, i just feel like it gets overwhelming when i express it too much. but other times there is a need to express it when nothing has been done i just need to do it. does this make sense to anyone? or does anyone feel the same way?
I took several different personality tests and they all said I was an INFJ-T, That being said I don't think I'm some magical special person. I definitely think different than my friends, they have alot harder time comming to a solid conclusion most of the time. They can have like a million different thoughts at ounce but not really dive deep into any of them.They are more like surface level ideas and I'll take one of them I like the best and improve on it and give it back to them the way I would solve it! We seem to really benifit eachother in that sense! I'm not sure what type of personalities they have but from what I have studied ao far I believe that they are probably ENFP'S.
You're saying INTJ's are colder on the outside and I agree, but also I would like to add an extra argument to that. My sister is an INTJ and according to her INTJ's aren't really connected with their feelings UNTIL someone asks them about their feelings. Then she can suddenly feel so much and show it on the outside as well.
It's justifiable to feel hard done by as an INFJ. We get misinderstood, underestimated, exploited so often. There is this ungrounded assumption that all types are equal, I firmly do not believe that. Are we all equally intelligent, moral, strong, etc, etc, NO! Then why is MBTI different?
I’m always sceptical whenever people say they’re INFJ. As for the genuine ones, I don’t think they’re bad or anything but yeah, the whole snowflake thing is pretty annoying. And if an ENTP thinks someone is annoying... So refreshing to see one that has a sensible outlook (plus the inner coldness of Fe is so relatable!). Btw I would love if INTJ & INFP would watch Terrace House, I think it’d be like crack for you guys. I’m pretty sure I have some of the types down but a couple of the housemates elude me.
What type are you when your mind is constantly fixated on 3-4 past scenes either in memory or imaginary and they play on a reel for weeks to years, sometimes switching scenes out, and you see these scenes or things in your mind the same time you see the outer world?
Thanks for this video, it's been very enlightening for me. I've watched a number of yours and other people's videos on MBTI over the last few months. Two of your videos on S/N helped me finally figure out my last 2 functions, Ni and Se; that makes my 4 functions Ti, Ni, Se, Fe. How does one best go about determining the proper ordering? I looked at which 4 types have those 4 functions. I've watched a number videos on those 4 types, and ESTP is absolutely nothing like me. I've been completely certain my whole life that I'm an introvert, so I'm leaning to those types, although the ENFJ does resonate a bit with me. Some of the ISTP descriptions also resonate with me, but something about it just doesn't seem right. After watching this video, I'm really leaning towards INFJ now; never really paid that one any attention until now. I realize it's quite rare in men, but that makes quite a lot of sense to me. A lot of Emily's responses really resonate with me. I'd love to hear people's thoughts. Thx!
i’ve identified as infj for a while, but more accurate cognitive functions tests typed me as ISFJ.. so i don’t know. i feel like i’ve put myself in a box and i’m scared to figure out i don’t belong there lol. but everything i’ve seen people say about infjs i resonate with
This reminded of my infp friend and i interaction. She's naturally bubbly but when she's with me she becomes calm and somewhat serious lol. It frustrates me bc she changes when she's with me like "hey show me your silliness don't you like me?" You're quite composed here, Calypso. 😁
wow thank you for this video. ive been very frustrated with my inability to process my inner feelings. sometimes i wonder if i have any cause im mostly focused on what i should feel and i act according to that instead. but deep down i dont rly feel that way especially if its in the moment. i even attributed this to astrology (my capricorn moon). i feel validated somehow to have this experience put into words by someone else :) i also have a close infp friend who envied my ability to "not feel" because she feels much too intensely instead. i should so share with her this video xD
Y’all should get together with other NFS and SFS and talk about emotions. Maybe Sarah Isfp, Megan LeVota and her best friend and enfp, So chill ISFJ, and an ESFP and ESFJ if you can get them to.
I agree idk why I don’t feel anything abt animal testing or north koreans let alone kyoto animation incident but when I watch a video in memory of a hamster that I don’t even watch I start to tear up and watching a speech by a north korean I cried along with her but I dont know I just dont feel anything afterwards or do I actually?
I've just seen that you replied to one of my comments about Frank James and it's the 2nd time you've replied to me. Whenever I click one of your comments in my notifications though I can never actually get to your comment to reply so I don't know whether you're deleting them soon after writing. Anyway from the small part of it that I can see in my notifications you're trying to say that INFJs wouldn't speak up and say they doubt Frank James's type due to Fe. I disagree with that because it depends on the individual INFJ - I'm Enneagram 1w2 and I have no problems whatsoever speaking up in any situation in my life. It may be more the case for Enneagram 9s. Plus just having 2Fe doesn't mean that you care that much about what others think of you - that's more 1Fe.
This might sound somewhat unscientific, but I think I'm beginning to notice patterns in physical appearance of certain types. Lately I've seen quite a few INTJs who have large, expressive eyes and sometimes a slightly pointed chin, which can be the smaller end of a heart-shaped face in females. Anyone else see these patterns? Do you think there's any correlation or is it just a coincidence? P.S. ❤️ Maine Coon 🐈😻🐾
@potato psoas Interesting. That sounds feasible in the sense that many genes encode for multiple traits and there are few genes that affect only one trait and few traits affected by only one gene (which is of course part of why GMOs are so controversial, and also part of why the Human Genome Project got finished so quickly, now that I think about it... But I digress). So theoretically a single gene could encode for both an aspect of a facial feature and mirror neuron quantity in the brain, for example (the latter of which I think may be directly related to Fe). I wish there were more research on the subject.
@@pucokie Thanks for responding! I'm curious, do agree with Socionics on that theory? I haven't researched Socionics too thoroughly, but now that you mention it, I do recall some physical descriptions. Of course, that was before I figured out that an INTP is an INTj in socionics, so I was reading about INTp and it didn't seem entirely accurate. 😅
@@heatherbryant4197 yeah I know a lot about it, and it is definitely a challenging thing to get into because there is a lot things lost in translation due to the fact that most of the information was translated
I'm not sure what my type is. INXX, definitely lol. I'm really not sure if I use Fe or Fi more, I mostly prefer to have a harmonious environment but the weird part is it's not necessarily am empathetic thing but I know if other people are upset or in a conflict it'll take energy out of me to deal with, I don't like when people are upset around me the best way to describe it is like a pang in my chest, or a bad taste in my mouth. Especially to feel like I cant do anything about their pain. A lot of the time it is mostly toward people who I've deemed as not meeting my personal... I guess "You're one of the ones that I enjoy interaction with" meter. It's like I see people at their whole so it's hard for me to actually meet someone who meets my ideal. Maybe I am an unhealthy INFJ. I think the shadow functions are very relatable such as demon Si causing me to pull a laundry list out of anyone's flaws when they wrong me. In this video the way the INFJ girl described feeling and not computing immediately was really relatable. Usually if I experience a loss it doesn't truly upset me until I have to think about "wow... this person was so involved in my life and know they are gone". I usually can never describe my emotion either, so that was like wow pretty relatable.
Awwwwwwww Calypso I love this!!!!!!!
Can you go into more detail about what your loop would look like when someone challenges your ideas? I'm an INFJ btw
@@TheQdubb05 Very good question!!! I make a video about that!!!!
@@pucokie Awesome! I look forward to checking it out!
Are you ever told “I thought you’d be more excited” when something happens and you don’t react super excited? You’re happy but you’re processing it, yet people take it as you’re not excited for them. It’s weird to feel so “even” and non responsive, but if something makes you feel passionate, nothing will stop you and you’re actually more vocal than others, which is shocking because you don’t understand why people are clamming up and not voicing anything towards injustice, or whatever seems unfair. I still don’t know what I am but this seems the closest.
YES!!!!
(Waves late to the party flag) I have to fake my enthusiasm 99% of the time that something has my interest, which I probably shouldn't do. But it's part of the process of getting me to feel more socially in tune with my life.
From what I can tell of my progress so far, it's nice but I still feel a bit out of touch. The purpose is to supposedly get people to know a bit more of my inner self based on my reactions, but if I'm effortfully pushing it, it's less genuine. Although there is some merit to it, such as my human body being less awkwardly expressing said genuine enthusiasm when the time comes.
See, sometimes when it comes to those scenarios where people want you to look excited, I tend to fake it: not because I'm not happy or not grateful, I just don't want to make them think that I didn't appreciate it. Opening Christmas presents can kinda be like that sometimes because I just don't know what to say or do so I put on a fake smile and pretend a little. Unless it's something really surprising, then it catches me off guard and I react. 😅
The thing is things don’t really shock me as I see them coming up, I expect them
Ive always been typed as infp but i feel this 10000% so now im even more confused.
INFJ female here. I second the "not being in touch with my own feelings" thing. I can also compartmentalize / shut off my feelings / easily control how and when I actually feel my feelings. For example, if I find out about something really terrible in my personal life but have a lot of work to get done in a day, I will set aside the emotion until I have time and space to let myself actually feel it. I don't let it get in the way of finishing my work / getting things done that I need to. Love this video!! :) You are both adorable
Hahaha I'm glad I'm not the only one!!!
I am mostly beeing emotionally deatached either
It’s true for me as well , it can take us a while to know how we truly feel about someone....and yeah INFJs are more cold on the inside than most people think .
this sounds more like a intp. They truly can focus work in sh*t falling apart situations. Versus- Infjs - who feel deeply even if they are cool minded they still feel deeply, just before they need to overthink and overly analyze what they feel before they are certain what it is, but the emotions they accumulate don’t make it easy for them to work actually.
I 100% relate, and I did that compartmentalizing just an hour ago. There was a moment that made me feel sad/nervous and I was able to put it aside and move on. Otherwise, the “not computing emotions” thing is also something I have-it take me a while to realize I feel an emotion. In fact, I usually have to actively think about how I’m feeling to actually know
"INTJ's are colder on the outside, but INFJ's are colder on the inside..." LOL. Too true. Of course, it's nuanced, and one must factor in a delayed emotional response, as opposed to concluding a lack thereof because an emotional response isn't intense and immediate; but I know exactly what you meant, very well put haha.
Also, dang, forgot your name INFP! But very well put on your understanding of the introverted function, whether F / T, being a central characteristic of self-identity and indicative of one's inner life, whereas the extroverted function is what is SEEN to characterise a person and may not necessary - especially if an Introverted type.
Hahahahaha I'm glad you could relate to that!!!
@@pucokie He. Inside I really really care, outside I act as if I really care, while at the time the emotions associated with caring are dead inside me (well, until ten years after the event, then I feel those emotions of caring at a time I've forgotten what those emotions were originally meant to be attached to, and that's when I die). A little bit Gandhi on the outside, and dash of Gandhi clothed with Hitlers jacket on the inside.
I've always felt that INFJ is the most logical of the feeling types
I agree!!!
and the most extro out of the intro :D
I wonder what type is the most emotional type of the thinking types?
@@dafaazka102 istjs
Your score on Thinking/Feeling is personal, not type related.
She is so cute. INFJ girls are always so uniquely cute. Hard to explain. Their eyes are always kind of glazed.
Aww thank you so much Timothy!!!
I know an infj that doesn't have a cutesy look at all. She's opposite! Very strong looks. But then her body movements are so feminine, bubbly and dainty its ridiculous😄. It is soooo cute! Lol. I love it.
"Hello Timothy, I find you delightfully amuzing."
Jusy some crap from the past ;)
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umm... our eyes are glazed ? ew. could you not? that's creepy. kk thx bai
interesting that the infp sees intjs as more 'bleeding heart' than infjs (who might seem so on the surface) -- totally agree. my ex bf is an intj and always accused me of being 'cold', although he isn't very emotionally expressive in social situations and & I am (and sentimental, almost). but the feelings he reserved for me were very deep & I couldn't match them.
Yes, I have experienced that with INTJs as well!!!
My grandfather just passed away and because of covid I wasn’t able to be with my family. I wasn’t showing my feelings outwardly. It was only when I got on the phone and heard my fathers sadness that I was able to cry. I cry instantly when someone in front of me does, but if I am the only one effected by something, I almost never cry.
I like infj's ability to teleport to different locations through out this video, is this indicative of all infj's? 🤔
Hehehehe you caught that
@@pucokie yes, i'm on to you infj's 😂
@@pixiee970 He's on to us, burn the files!
I can teleport to any spot in the world, except the North Pole...no Zoom there.
Guys, we’re not supposed to talk about our teleportation powers. Get back to looking aloof so no one else gets suspicious.
Yeah so true about being cold. I’ve had moments where I’ve had conflict with friends and they have asked me “do you care?” Because I’m trying to process what they’re saying in a logical way so I’m not demonstrating any emotions outwardly. Also, this has to do with what Pucokie alluded to: how it’s hard to determine the emotions I’m feeling at the moment. Lovely video!
5:56 I absolutely know what you're talking about. 🙊I didn't know it was an INFJ thing. Creepy. 😮
Same!
INFP girl reminds me of female version of me. INFP can seem more extroverted than INFJ's.
I think it depends on the person vs the type
I think ixfjs are but do you think infps can be more talkative and louder but infjs are more outgoing and interactive?
"I'm busy right now, I'll schedule my breakdown later"...That's how it seems for this Infj dude amyway...
Idk if this is an INFJ thing that anyone else can relate to but when I've gone through a really emotional situation (usually a panic attack of some kind that was built up over time), my emotions just suddenly shut off. It's like Ti takes over and says "you're done with this" and I just flatline. I had one of those the other night and I also realized that I just suddenly could not stop drinking water and that I was extremely cold but didn't feel like changing that. I think that was also Se taking over.
Also, while I've never actually been broken up with, when I was younger, I was talking to someone who I thought was THE ONE and then one day, he just suddenly ended it. While I sort of saw coming a little, I never knew for sure because I have a hard time accurately using my Ni-Fe prediction for myself. The whole day after, I was talking to people about what happened and everyone was so worried that I wasn't okay and that I was devastated but I wasn't. I painted my wall that day and decorated it and actually kinda felt free. I told everyone i was okay because I felt completely numb and convinced myself I was happy because my "ex" was. Then all of the sudden, I listened to an emotional, romantic song and it hit me like a ton of bricks and suddenly I was consumed with just pure devastation. I didn't get over it for about half a year but I constantly kept shutting my feelings out and convincing myself that I wanted other people instead.
Let me know if there are similar experiences out there.
Also I was practically shouting "YES YES YES" at my screen at 11:39 idk how but I understood that.
The infj is both 'romanza' by andrea bocelli and 'hard knock life' by jay z. Thats probably the best way I could describe our emotion/coldness paradigm and the closest I could get someone to experience what infj emotions are like. We feel, even sporadically, deep emotion and romance in a simple leave on the ground in the fall or timelessness at the site of a once occupied and now empty room and yet at other times simply like bad mfs. Its conflicting. At least for me as a male infj.
Ohhh that's very interesting!!!!
I've never heard Romanza before and I have to say- what a wall of emotion. I couldn't make it more than halfway without crying.
@@DanielDavidAllenChannel haha I love this comment! Exactly; the meloncholy nature of an INFJ. Beautiful but sad. Beautifully sad perhaps. And yet not always. Mercifully a cold numb. Not a feeling. And then the pumped estp like side of us. Especially after coffee ;) but we are playful to. We enjoy people tremendously. Fe parent.
I relate to this completely. Some might see it as distant and out of touch, but i tend to see it as the opposite. We're more connected to things in a very strange way. Wouldn't agree with "Mercifully a cold numb", but "beautifully sad" hits it on the mark. We can see beauty in things most don't even seem to notice. It can be alienating at times, but i also relate to people more than anybody else i know. Contradictory would be an understatement.
This is a great video, again Calypso! I love how you edit, it really helps me maintain my focus. I laugh when people don't know which they are, INFx, however, I can see how people get them confused if they do not know the functions behind it. Although, dating an INFJ for four years and having an INFP sister.... I know better than many how very, very, very different the two are. This is a great conversation to watch because you both know the cognitive functions so well and can recognize it. Very fun to watch!
Yes it was so funnnnnnnn!!!!
Really enjoyed this video- thanks!
Michelle Wilson yet turns out your sister is ISFP , as you can see jumping to fast conclusions give wrong results , but i still understand , Ne like experiments and experiences more than deep truth based on good knowledge.
"All Ne users should carry a pen and paper with them at all times" lol so true!
Hahaha yes!!!!
Interesting comparisons to infj and istp - there's definitely a lot of similarities. My sister is istp and even though we're really different as people and live our lives in very different ways, there's some deep shared understanding that underlies the two. Also, interestingly, Nardi's research on ECGs of brain types of differing mbtis showed that an older infj and istp, while very different brain functioning style when younger, are almost indistinguishable as age
That is interesting!!!!
Damnit why is there so few people in my life who understand MBTI well amd want to have conversations aboit it. I almost want to start a channel just so I can have conversations like this.... They're so damn interesting.
Also when i saw the title for this video... I thought it was going to be a video about how she was typed wrong and i was like What!?!.... She as well... Nooooooooooooo
hahahahah!!!
I feel you man! And, DO IT! :D
I wouldn't mind chatting with people about MBTI too. We could chat if you want. I don't know a topic yet.
Is pucokie' s pattern of eye contact indicative of INFJs? I ask because I've noticed I also look up ALOT when I'm talking and thinking, and otherwise look all around when I'm talking, then every once in a while back to the person I'm talking to. However, when they're talking, my eyes are always fixed directly on them.
INFP: Yes, her eye movement is consistent with dominant Ni and inferior Se users.
@@CasualCognition no it’s not.
ikr i have VERY similar eye movement
Oh no! The pair broke up. Well, she seems to be doing alright so I won't harp on it.
Great interview. Like how you guys were looking at a scenario and comparing how you handle it. Very good way to see the difference.
I find it funny that I related more to how she described dealing with emotions than the way you described it even though I'm ENFP.
I think ENFPs and INFJs understand each-other easily!!!
Broke up??
I hope breaking up doesn't mean the recent MBTI power duo. What hope is there for the rest of us?
@@allafields7667 what pair??
To any INFJ’s out there. If you want to find a gathering place, look up INFJ Sanctuary Amino. Hope to see you all there and help you realize you’re not alone in how your weird mind works.
Sincerely, Guardian Blade.
The girl that is an INFP changed from the last time she talked with the INFJ guy. I think she was so bubbly because she actually liked the guy.
It’s because she’s NOT an INFP. INFPs are not bubbly. Look her on type police- she’s an EXFP.
I think lots of people get typed the first time infj because a healthy person values harmony
You are probably right!
Care glow
Not necessarily true. Harmony also means subjecting yourself and others to societal norms. A thousand years ago, that would mean intense homophobia, sexism and racism- all to “keep order”. Fi and authenticity on the other hand is built upon a strong internal framework of morals that don’t bend to the whims of society.
Okay, I'm not even finished with the video but I have to comment! I commented on one of your other videos and mentioned how I'm not even sure they're really an infj. But this chick, I can believe she's an infj! The way that when she's talking she doesn't look at who she's talking to, but rather kind of stares blankly or stairs up and to the side a little. It's because it feels almost impossible to look at somebody and engage in our thinking process at the same time. So our eyes disengage to think, and then re-engage with who were talking to when were done thinking so deeply, or when we're listening. I feel like it can be different though if we're talking about something we've already given a lot of thought to, because we don't actually have to think so deeply in the moment when we're talking about it. I actually feel kind of self-conscious about the fact that I do that, because after I'm done I recognize that did it, but even though I would like to improve that factor it feels impossible.
Also how she's not afraid to express her emotion. Like a lot of people that are trying to be infj feel like they can't express their emotion or something. Which I think is a problem with the typology, because people accidentally start thinking, I'm this type therefore this is what I do, rather than I do this therefore I'm this type. Everyone needs to just be themselves and screw the types. And then whatever type you end up being by being yourself cool, use that to maybe help explain yourself better to somebody.
I'm totally gonna go check out her channel! keep bein YOU!
This helps alot...Last year I was typed as INTJ and INFJ and after a year,as my MBTI obsessions(kinda😂) began,I always felt like I relate so much to traits of INFPs...so I checked around many sites and videos,took tests again and again,but I always got INFJ...but I just wanna clear this doubts,I just can't stop thinking it,it's always in my head...and this video helps alot alongwith the former video with the male INFJ...and what you mentioned,INFJs are colder than INTJs in the core really clears some of my doubts and guilts,because I always thought that's because I am a bad person,you know I am not really aware of what I really am before,so I ended up having sooo many guilts and blame myself for so much things that happened to me and people around me...I know it's kinda scattered but I wanna write it right now,sorry😁 I'm always in a war with myself between logic and feelings like I know I have to be rational and I know the right things to do,but I know what how it would effect others and the atmosphere,but I found myself more tending to my logical side sometimes,I guess I'm more of an NiTi than NiFe...omg I don't know how to say it,sorry for this scattered post....Thank you for this video...this kind of discussions really are helpful👍👍
Oh wow!! I'm so glad this was helpful for you!!!!
You sound like the one infj guy friend of mine when he opens up and gushes about his finding himself revelations to me 😊✌ he grew up in a cultural standard he felt like conflicted with his true expression of himself. So he felt like he hadn't developed himself.
@@mjade1673 👍👍 yeah The INFJ Revelation😁
The Fe/Fi conversation and comparison you guys have here was super helpful for me! The mentions of INTJ also helped me understand some family members better. Thx guys!
Awwww I'm so glad it was helpful!!!!
"INFJs are colder on the inside". HELL YES!!!! Such a great observation here!
not true we are very loving to every one!!
@@melanie.l6282 in relation to oneself yes, in relation to others no
I love Emily!!! I still relate to so much you both described about infj’s, but I’ve been testing as intj lately. I’m still on my path to self discovery, so this was definitely some useful information to take into account. You two are so cute together, so I’d love to see more videos like this on either channel!
Aww Christy!!! I think I said that you may be an INTJ, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if you are an INFJ either! It’s sometimes hard to determine!!
This video reminded me of me (INFJ) and my INFP friend's analogies for the way we think. She told me I was like a powerful PC (high computing power) because I could perceive patterns in things that made me draw conclusions that a lot of times were correct (like multiple inputs processed to produce an output). To me, everything was connected. Continuing with the IT metaphor, I told her she was like a database or a search engine. She was a storehouse of feelings and memories, which makes her a formidable reservoir of information. To her (IMO), the world only makes sense through this huge database. She went on with this metaphor and said yeah, like Google, I need a prompt (search keywords) before I go on to access my data vault. I don't remember how it fit into the INFP functions though.
As for the other parts of the video, I agree with most, if not all, of what both of them said. My INFP friend told me that I was the most rational feeler she knows but that I also knew how and when to adjust the mix of feelings and logic when talking to another person. I also have a lag time between understanding the effect of events on my feelings. I realized that it's better to bring it out in the open (talking to INFP friend, singing, journaling, reading articles about what happened) because it clutters my mind and that making sense of how I feel makes me know what to do about it (let it be, suppress, reduce, eliminate). Additionally, when I'm with other people, I tend to be more gregarious (more so when people are having fun), which is my Fe side coming out to play. I also agree that wanting and expressing the desire to be unique is more an Fi trait than an Fe one. While I liked that INFJs were supposedly rare, it was more of relief because it made sense now that I found it hard to find other people who had the same thought process as I do. My INFP friend admitted that she had (in her words) conflicting desires of wanting to be unique and wanting to be validated by people.
I'm sorry for the overlong comment (post). I was just glad to see another INFJ and an INFP/INFJ dialogue and contrasting aspects of each. There are a few things that could be added though. The Ne-Ni differences and the Se-Si differences were barely mentioned. The Ti was discussed but there was no contrasting discussion for Te. I also wanted to hear more about INFJ stereotypes and boy, there are a lot. Nevertheless, I really loved and enjoyed the content of this video. Thanks a lot! 😁
Oh that is interesting!!!
Hahahaha the animal show in the end! NFs... Nice video you two
hahahahahaha
I see introverted functions as vertical in a sense it is deep and focused whereas extroverted functions are horizontal, shallow and widespread.
I love that visualization of it.
That is a very cool way to think about the functions!!!
Oh my God externalising my ideas is so relatable. I remember I had an idea come together for a new art piece and as soon as I knew it was formed I rang both my parents consecutively to share the good news I was so excited! I'm pretty sure I am infj. Thank you both for this video ❤️
Loved this!! Concise, and right on point, you really get the feel of the INFJ. About the over-emphasis on the INFJ as special dark angel snowflake, I think the stereotype of the INFJ is the INFJ type 4. Or maybe enneagram type 4s love to see themselves as INFJs?
Feelings? INFJ don't have personal feelings only personal thoughts. Ok kinda joking but Our feelings are in some ways the average of all people in that context. If context change INFJ will reflect that in their responses. But the timeline thing makes it so we don't forget the actual context as it relates to our collection of self including our Ti about the Se... also the timeline is oddly not escapable so its not fair that other types aren't burdened by this!
Good Morning Ladies and as always, it is a pleasure to listen to your channel.
I'm newish to this and I am an INTJ female of "a certain age". I wander around the channels and enjoy watching such amazing and smart young people (s) lol,
living in such an exciting time.
When you two mention that INTJ's appear colder but INFJ's are perhaps colder inside (4:30 ) I recognized that and can see it,
but as I understand the difference between us, the INTJ's and your INFJ types is that since our INTJ auxiliary function of Fe (valuing and belonging to the tribe) is not developed until our late 20's or maybe even the 40's for some of us, we will always be slightly immature in that regards. Once in a while, I get my feelings hurt and zoom! zwoosh!...I am ten years old again. Not logical but human.
You guys have the advantage in that your feelings are mature and Te is also your instinctual cognitive skill set. Your Te or Thinking just needs time and experience.
Plus the gift of hindsight, which is what I now have found and wish for all of you.
Huzzah to a terrific toothsome twosome, and an awkward one-armed INTJ hug for everyone!
Oh wow!!!
15:20 - "Ok I am done talking now" LOL....it is so weird to see someone else do that. I do that to. It is really hard for me to close out a conversation when I'm done.
Funny thing is I also can't compute until much later if someone dies, but if I watch a sad commercial I might cry unexpectedly haha. And I might also relate to the pattern of getting hurt by someone, and then the last straw comes and then it hits me unexpectedly. But on the other hand I might have some associations from the past.
Bottom line people are beautifully complex. When you mentioned spider web like a tunnel, i could visualize it immediately in an abstract, nebulous way, but then it immediately made me think of a huge spider trying to spin me in a web, and I was filled with fear I've felt before.
Yup, Te blind spot doesn't trust statistics. Lol
It's funny how different yet similar this can look in INFJs and ISFJs =D
@@someonerandom713 It is interesting!!!!!
Poke it then..... you can trust statistics.....
Just in most cases you can't trust the one performing it
@Psycho Pass this is where we need accuracy..... get to the real issue there... statistics say something but we choose to ignore some bias of these on purpose to get where we want to go...
Most of the statistics I've seen aren't complete, it doesn't dismiss the principle of the statistic.
Though, if we test all people on earth, it's not statistics anymore.... it's counting ;-D
Im an ESTJ and i dont trust statistics either
Im not an infj but I also have that thing of not computing feelings concerning death or a break up
People think that INFJ's cant be successful ?
Lol what??
I can kind of understand why people might think that INFJ's arent ambitious. But being successful is a different thing than being ambitious. Doesnt INFJ's want people to realize their all talents, full capasity also help them doing that? So i think its really normal for an INFJ to do the same thing for herself/himself.
(btw i think infj's can be ambitious too i just say that i can see why people might think the otherwise.)
Yeah I agree, you would be surprised what people have said!!!!
I sometimes think of Ni as a downward spiral, but I like the interconnected web metaphor. I compose songs sometimes and it takes extra effort to figure out what I’m feeling to write lyrics. I imagine if I was an INFP, that would be an easier process. I’ve been to funerals and I feel kind of detached. Emotions always hit when I’m alone, well after the event that sparked it. I also use Ti quite a bit and was mistyped as ISTP 20 years ago. Anyhow, I love INTJ’s am I’m partnered up with one. I relate to INTJ’s and ENFJ’s the most.
the way I see my processing of emotions as an INFJ is something like this:
something happens to cause an emotion in me --> without being able to put a name to it or, as calypso put it, "file" it somewhere internally, the outward expression of that emotion comes out --> i have thoughts running through my head that cause the outward emotions to continue --> after the whole event, i find myself still unable to address which emotion it was, and i can only remember a select few of the thoughts i was having that caused -AN EMOTION-, regardless of what the emotion actually was
i wrote this specifically with negative emotions in mind, because i tend to cry very easily lol but the crying isn't caused from the emotion itself it's caused from the THOUGHTS, if that makes any sense
I personally think Emily is INTP (Ti/Si).
1. The focal point of the vast majority of her videos are related people, not things (sensory or concepts), and it's mostly about struggles between you and everyone else. "People related content" includes interviews. That focus on the struggles of people vs you is IxxP & ExxJ talk
2. It shows that she's struggled with people around her in the past (demon Fe) more than she has struggled with identity, or chaos or fear of control. Moreover, feelings are kinda strange to her. She needs reasons (T) for those feelings to make sense. She says things like "I know this is blunt/insensitive to ask someone, but I want to know why you think of me this way" in her videos.
3. She's quite solid on the facts, the known ones (Si). She doesn't do all these abstract paintings and when she tries she doesn't go on about them or push them (you can see that in the web/tunnel analogy here and her other videos). But her main struggle isn't so much loss of control or anything, she's balanced on that. Additionally, the majority of her videos are like fact reports: "this happened, and people said (this), and I did (this)." She doesn't jump to assumptions and again is very solid on her sensory
Bottomline, Emily is very sure of her identity through reasons, struggled with understanding people's feelings in the past (it shows that she's a lot better at it now, though!), prioritises T over F, and is solid on her known facts (Si). She's quite calm and introverted, and she'll peacock about not being too serious sometimes in streams, haha. I think Emily is quite interesting and calming, please don't scold me for not thinking she's INFJ!
We won't scold you of course! (: Well some might, but they are not at ease with themselves or others.
She is an INFJ.
@@JonasAnandaKristiansson What makes you say she's INFJ?
I would definitely not say I’m solid on facts, but I take that you think I’m an INTP as a compliment!
Yeah, I get INTP, good.
@@rayw3332 Nice! You run a checklist too?
I've never related more to anything then Pucokie talking about how you have to see a pattern of behaviour in order to work out your emotion in hindsight.
Nice vid. Good chemistry :)
Thank you!!!!!!
I definitely feel like INFJs and INFPs have great chemistry. The Ne from INFPs is so damn attentive to our Ni. I love it. It's interesting seeing the difference though with Ne parent in INTPs. It comes across as mean, especially when they stomp on one of my ideas!
You're both so cute really. I'm an INFJ, I know I knoww I'm rare :P I love your goofy personalities, this reveals how good-hearted you are. just subscribed hoped to see more of positive videos like this. chow adios I'm done :p
Awww so sweet!!!
Listening to this convo between you two helped a lot to understand all of this better. Thank you very much :)
At long last, I've discovered I'm a disorganized INFJ hahaha. Not ENFP or INFP. Thanks helpful reddit user
I got the same visual of the tunnel with the spider webs, except mine was one huge spider web. And I prefer INFP. So interesting to see the contrast between the INFJ and INFP types. :)
It is interesting!
I never got the thing about INFJ's being 'so ultra rare', since the difference in amounts (percentages) compared to a lot of other intuitive types is so small. As far as the statistics are right at least least - since I find INFJ's much more common than for example ENFJ's in reality. I've asked about 8 people this same thing, and most of them knew more INFJ's than ENFJ's...Not that this means anything in terms of proove of course, but ...is there even anyone who knows more ENFJ's than INFJ's?
no but i have an enfj friend that says enfjs often mistype as infj because (according to her) enfj have more need of downtime/self time and are also very sensitive to how other extroverts act (very extroverted) so they get the idea that they are introverted even though by any outside measure they are clearly extroverted.
I'd second I think a few ENFJs do type as INFJs as besides the stereotypes ENFJs tend to be quite socially introverted give the specificity of Fe-Se and more divergent types are invested in their Ni-Ti (CPT). I'm a cognitive ENFJ (typed by CPT) and I've met very few ENFJs; slightly more INFJs but the difference is quite negligible in percentage. I think many think they can't be an ENFJ due to the misperception that Ti is somehow inferior when the reality is my FeTi axis is 50/50; if I hadn't have been typed I would've considered myself a Ti or Ni dominant. As Ni is the authority function I'm sure this can be conflated for being an Ni dom too
Such an interesting topic for me personally. I'm an INFJ my sister is INFP and mother is an ISTP
Yes, infjs and istps are similar and often confused as the same on the outside give our quiet nature and physicality Se. An infj cant hang with the istp all day though if having to do physical labor because our Ni hero disrupts everything. Not like lazy but slower because we are in our head and our movents almost become meditative (our minds are turning a thought that is not a present situation) and istps are using Ti hero to problem solve and then jump on it with Se parent.
Very neat!!! My Mom is an ISFP, so we share the Ni-Se, but I find that she gets annoyed of a lot of the things I do
@@pucokie haha really? Like what if you don't mind sharing? My grandpa is an isfp but I don't see hom too often. I'd probably annoy hjm too lol
After multiple personality tests and UA-cam research I'm about 90% sure I'm an INFJ. Because it's apparently so rare (and with males even more) I dont think I'll ever truly feel I am so in touch with the emotion of others with a high level of emotional intelligence but strangely disconnected in how it translates to how I connect to it on a personal level. Because INFJs are very strong on values, basing decisions on how I connect to values vs emotion provides a security against the trend and keeps me free to internalize and translate my truth. Btw that ending was deliciously awkward.
infj guy here
I got types as an infj, but I looked more into the other types and I found a connection with infp and intj, I took the test again and got infj. Lol I secretly want to be an intj
I get that web of tunnel analogy. Its not just a tunnel, it is made from complex abstract informations that connects with each other to create that one vision of possibility.
the awkwardness of saying goodbye... specially to a nfp friend... perfectly portrayed by pucokie😂
“..It’s almost like a tunnel was a web...” someone’s been hitting the herb
hahaha I've actually never done that before
Oh wow you’re so well behaved. Let’s make you naughty
5:47
"I've cried a lot about it, but ANYWAYS" ah yes the legendary 'anyways'
Very beautiful video 😊😊😊
I'm an ENFP and I also don't compute emotions straight away in a serious situation. It's like delayed; I can't register it.
Also I really like INFJ's. This girl here, the INFJ, she seems so composed, but if you look closely she is shaking. She can seem cold, and partially is, but is feeling far more than you would believe just by looking at her. The way she squints her eyes to listen to what casual cognition has to say, like she's trying hard to memorise it so she can analyse it. She's fixating on an idea, while so many ideas are being thrown at her. That's a big difference between an INFJ and ENFP, is that an ENFP struggles to focus on a particular thing, this is why they can't seem composed, because they're always jumping back and forth on ideas. Whereas an INFJ has so many questions, so many thoughts, but can think of many things while simultaneously listening and fixating on something someone is saying; the ultimate multitaskers. This reminds me of a scene on Skins (UK version ofc). But us ENFP's do the analysing thing as well. We do the squinting thing to listen as well. XD
She has such cold but such gazeful eyes, always searching which gives them their magic. She looks up as she's envisioning her ideas come to life so she can explain them, though she has such a feeling about them that she can't describe.
This really helped between Ne and Ni ty
Yay!!!
So insightful, so can identify with the young lady that is an Infj. I hate the saying the ( rare type). All people are unique and wonderfully formed. Glad to know that getting in touch with how I feel and express the emotions. It easy to interact with other feelings and emotions but connecting my own not so good.
Calypso was right, this was a very informative video. There was a lot of insight packed into a short amount of time.
How she keeps on saying, "I don't really know how to describe that" or "it's so hard to describe it" is actually really an INFJ thing... (and weak Fi in general).
Lol.. Same with me.. My grandpa died in Feb and I didn't actually realize he died until June even though I knew he died in Feb. Lol.. I feel like I'm a typical infj. I resonate with almost everything you say. And whenever I'm in emotional pain, I feel it, but once I'm done I actually can laugh about really easily.. Like it didn't even matter.
I’m sorry about you grandpa!!
@@pucokie thanks
Its interesting to see how infj's can come across kinda cold and calculated in their youtube videos. You generally don't see how they would behave around people but this video gives you an insiggt into how they usually present themselves. She seems very social and warm here which is not something most people might exoect from infj's if you get your information from youtube. I recognise a lot of myself in her
She is an infj!! A True infj can be any personality they choose to be!! We can make a bad situation better.
so like i think i’m an infj, the thing about infj’s being more cold on the inside i understand it but i have a question. when you say it’s hard for us to feel emotions in the moment i get like yes sometimes i feel emotions from a commercial but then don’t feel them so much at a funeral per day. but i wonder why do you say that we don’t feel as deep on the inside? like the intj’s i know feel really deep just don’t express it, and we are sort of the opposite. but personally i feel like i feel really deep for those i love, like i can physically feel it and emotionally feel it, though i may not feel it at times and can be cold or not care after expressing it at times, i don’t think that deep feeling ever goes away it’s just i can turn it off. it’s not even a voluntary thing, i just feel like it gets overwhelming when i express it too much. but other times there is a need to express it when nothing has been done i just need to do it. does this make sense to anyone? or does anyone feel the same way?
I took several different personality tests and they all said I was an INFJ-T, That being said I don't think I'm some magical special person. I definitely think different than my friends, they have alot harder time comming to a solid conclusion most of the time. They can have like a million different thoughts at ounce but not really dive deep into any of them.They are more like surface level ideas and I'll take one of them I like the best and improve on it and give it back to them the way I would solve it! We seem to really benifit eachother in that sense! I'm not sure what type of personalities they have but from what I have studied ao far I believe that they are probably ENFP'S.
I love how you guys described cognitive functions😂🕸 Btw...what kind of person dislikes these kinds of videos😑
Haahahahahaha the people that value statistics as fact!!!!
@@pucokie 😂😂I have only disliked one UA-cam video in my life...and I feel so bad still.
Hi , great talk! I am also an INFJ . Could you maybe type Anita Moorjani?
You're saying INTJ's are colder on the outside and I agree, but also I would like to add an extra argument to that. My sister is an INTJ and according to her INTJ's aren't really connected with their feelings UNTIL someone asks them about their feelings. Then she can suddenly feel so much and show it on the outside as well.
You two seem to get along so well! Wow
It's justifiable to feel hard done by as an INFJ. We get misinderstood, underestimated, exploited so often. There is this ungrounded assumption that all types are equal, I firmly do not believe that. Are we all equally intelligent, moral, strong, etc, etc, NO! Then why is MBTI different?
6:00 mark - I totally identify with this. I am almost 50, and have gone to funerals where I experienced this.
Very informative video. I love it!
"if a tunnel was a web" idk why but i understood tht and i understood the feeling of knowing tht people might misunderstand💀
I’m always sceptical whenever people say they’re INFJ. As for the genuine ones, I don’t think they’re bad or anything but yeah, the whole snowflake thing is pretty annoying. And if an ENTP thinks someone is annoying...
So refreshing to see one that has a sensible outlook (plus the inner coldness of Fe is so relatable!).
Btw I would love if INTJ & INFP would watch Terrace House, I think it’d be like crack for you guys. I’m pretty sure I have some of the types down but a couple of the housemates elude me.
Interesting!!!
What type are you when your mind is constantly fixated on 3-4 past scenes either in memory or imaginary and they play on a reel for weeks to years, sometimes switching scenes out, and you see these scenes or things in your mind the same time you see the outer world?
That sounds to me that you are in some sort of loop!!
@@pucokie Haha. I just can't figure out what kind of loopty-loop! I'm going with Si.
@@allafields7667 Hahahah maybe so!!!
Im infp and i do this. Or else im misunderstanding what you're describing.
@@allafields7667 Si is memory so that would mean your loop would be Ne or Exploration. What memory are you trying to explore and why, wink?
6:08 Finally! Someone said it. I always thought I was weird because of that
Please make a video for are you really an ENFP? Thanks
Is there any video like this but INTJ version?
That is good idea!!!
I've always felt that commenting on videos three years after they were made makes me morally superior to others
Thanks for this video, it's been very enlightening for me.
I've watched a number of yours and other people's videos on MBTI over the last few months. Two of your videos on S/N helped me finally figure out my last 2 functions, Ni and Se; that makes my 4 functions Ti, Ni, Se, Fe.
How does one best go about determining the proper ordering?
I looked at which 4 types have those 4 functions. I've watched a number videos on those 4 types, and ESTP is absolutely nothing like me. I've been completely certain my whole life that I'm an introvert, so I'm leaning to those types, although the ENFJ does resonate a bit with me. Some of the ISTP descriptions also resonate with me, but something about it just doesn't seem right.
After watching this video, I'm really leaning towards INFJ now; never really paid that one any attention until now. I realize it's quite rare in men, but that makes quite a lot of sense to me. A lot of Emily's responses really resonate with me.
I'd love to hear people's thoughts. Thx!
INFJ are awesome
-infp
INFP are awesome too
- INFJ
True. I can be very cold and very sensitive 🤔
So sad she broke up.
It is sad, but in the end I think it is what was best for both of us!
i’ve identified as infj for a while, but more accurate cognitive functions tests typed me as ISFJ.. so i don’t know. i feel like i’ve put myself in a box and i’m scared to figure out i don’t belong there lol. but everything i’ve seen people say about infjs i resonate with
This reminded of my infp friend and i interaction. She's naturally bubbly but when she's with me she becomes calm and somewhat serious lol. It frustrates me bc she changes when she's with me like "hey show me your silliness don't you like me?" You're quite composed here, Calypso. 😁
wow thank you for this video. ive been very frustrated with my inability to process my inner feelings. sometimes i wonder if i have any cause im mostly focused on what i should feel and i act according to that instead. but deep down i dont rly feel that way especially if its in the moment. i even attributed this to astrology (my capricorn moon). i feel validated somehow to have this experience put into words by someone else :) i also have a close infp friend who envied my ability to "not feel" because she feels much too intensely instead. i should so share with her this video xD
I'm glad this was helpful!!!!
INFJS can be depressed, but we are VERY driven.
Y’all should get together with other NFS and SFS and talk about emotions. Maybe Sarah Isfp, Megan LeVota and her best friend and enfp, So chill ISFJ, and an ESFP and ESFJ if you can get them to.
I agree
idk why I don’t feel anything abt animal testing or north koreans let alone kyoto animation incident
but when I watch a video in memory of a hamster that I don’t even watch I start to tear up
and watching a speech by a north korean
I cried along with her
but I dont know I just dont feel anything afterwards
or do I actually?
I've just seen that you replied to one of my comments about Frank James and it's the 2nd time you've replied to me. Whenever I click one of your comments in my notifications though I can never actually get to your comment to reply so I don't know whether you're deleting them soon after writing. Anyway from the small part of it that I can see in my notifications you're trying to say that INFJs wouldn't speak up and say they doubt Frank James's type due to Fe. I disagree with that because it depends on the individual INFJ - I'm Enneagram 1w2 and I have no problems whatsoever speaking up in any situation in my life. It may be more the case for Enneagram 9s. Plus just having 2Fe doesn't mean that you care that much about what others think of you - that's more 1Fe.
This might sound somewhat unscientific, but I think I'm beginning to notice patterns in physical appearance of certain types. Lately I've seen quite a few INTJs who have large, expressive eyes and sometimes a slightly pointed chin, which can be the smaller end of a heart-shaped face in females. Anyone else see these patterns? Do you think there's any correlation or is it just a coincidence?
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In Socionics they actually associate the types different features/expressions!!
@potato psoas Interesting. That sounds feasible in the sense that many genes encode for multiple traits and there are few genes that affect only one trait and few traits affected by only one gene (which is of course part of why GMOs are so controversial, and also part of why the Human Genome Project got finished so quickly, now that I think about it... But I digress). So theoretically a single gene could encode for both an aspect of a facial feature and mirror neuron quantity in the brain, for example (the latter of which I think may be directly related to Fe). I wish there were more research on the subject.
@@pucokie Thanks for responding! I'm curious, do agree with Socionics on that theory? I haven't researched Socionics too thoroughly, but now that you mention it, I do recall some physical descriptions. Of course, that was before I figured out that an INTP is an INTj in socionics, so I was reading about INTp and it didn't seem entirely accurate. 😅
@@heatherbryant4197 yeah I know a lot about it, and it is definitely a challenging thing to get into because there is a lot things lost in translation due to the fact that most of the information was translated
You're sort of describing what I look like and I'm an INTJ (mistyped as INFJ forever) 😊
Unambitious monks without success ... Sounds like infp. Coming from infp 😬😄😝😜
Lol😄😄👍
hahahahahah
She does not do the Ni eye movement you talked about at your earlier Video ;)
As an INTP i relate to infj feeling thing
I'm not sure what my type is. INXX, definitely lol. I'm really not sure if I use Fe or Fi more, I mostly prefer to have a harmonious environment but the weird part is it's not necessarily am empathetic thing but I know if other people are upset or in a conflict it'll take energy out of me to deal with, I don't like when people are upset around me the best way to describe it is like a pang in my chest, or a bad taste in my mouth. Especially to feel like I cant do anything about their pain. A lot of the time it is mostly toward people who I've deemed as not meeting my personal... I guess "You're one of the ones that I enjoy interaction with" meter. It's like I see people at their whole so it's hard for me to actually meet someone who meets my ideal. Maybe I am an unhealthy INFJ. I think the shadow functions are very relatable such as demon Si causing me to pull a laundry list out of anyone's flaws when they wrong me. In this video the way the INFJ girl described feeling and not computing immediately was really relatable. Usually if I experience a loss it doesn't truly upset me until I have to think about "wow... this person was so involved in my life and know they are gone". I usually can never describe my emotion either, so that was like wow pretty relatable.
Infj's are empaths!! I have learned to control all my emotions!!
I have given up on trying to accurately differenciate these two types via any kind of terminology or general concept.