I'm so glad that I grew up at a time when we only had 3 then later 4 TV channels showing, for the greater part, quality productions like this. Were it not for the BBC and early Channel 4, I wouldn't have been introduced to so much art, music and international cinema at an early age either.
Me too. There were also those late night Open University programmes. And BBC Radio 3 and 4 before they were meant to be more popular. It was a real education. Now it all depends on the internet and salvaged programmes on UA-cam.
Quite so, but there was some appalling shite back then too: Love Thy Neighbour, Terry And June etc etc. And some of the Plays For Today were quite dry and slow.
It wasn't so long ago when the BBC Worldservice was worth listening to, because of the many various dramatic productions on the different Channels - including 4 and 3.
What a lovely surprise to see a very young Brenda Blethyn. A wonderful actress. Now, in a great series ." Vera." Loved this play. Thank goodness times are changing for women .
On top of a riveting play, painfully exacting dialogue and direction, and totally convincing acting, out of nowhere Patricia Routledge presides. It can't get any better, frankly.
I’m really loving these old plays . Reminds me of my mother we liked things like this. I like that there all different subjects and eras . Picking out actors that we know now and how young they were .great writing . There like good books I have to watch another one.
Pat Routlidge can play anypart What an Icon she is. My Mother was 2nd scretary to Lord Lois Mounbatter. My Father always treated it like she was playing grownup and she's come to her snss??? She outranked him But still he didnt reconize her sarifice and War Work
Kathy had more spirit and understanding the all those "men" she came across in the film. What a tragedy she always seemed to them "awkward and difficult and angry"
Her conditioning came from her home life.... her father's superior attitudes and her mother's compliance and timidity with the husband... The boyfriend was a carbon copy of her father, so were all the officers and those in the war effort... and the pub owner who accussed her wrongly, & those soldiers in the pub drinking: I notice in my life, l have met people, good people who are completely misunderstood.... l don't know on whose side they are misunderstood their side or other people.
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I've virtually given up watching tv since I got a computer, now I can see more or less anything I want on UA-cam at the time I want to see it. Defund the BBC!
Always a power game, trying to exact the battle of the sexes. Sure there were great women alike that risked life and limb during Wartime, but the real tragedy is having and wanting to be part of it. Who needs plastic medals anyway ? learning to be individual is much more important. The power of the Pen never failed anyone.
Curiosity killed the cat, or could have done. She was lucky to have only got imprisonment. I'm surprised she was allowed anywhere near Intelligence with having spent time in Nazi Germany, and a father in the BUF. It clearly had a very feminist propagandist slant, and most of the men are the baddies; but only someone who was there at that time could say how truly it reflected the period. But, apart from those quibbles it was well acted with a realistic historical feel.
I'd say a 'feminist' slant is fair as it's at the crux of the story but 'propagandist' I don't agree with. Of course we weren't there ourselves but I'm sure Ian McEwan researched it well and I'd put good money on Patricia Routledge's speech on 'handling' women in the Services being based on written record. Such attitudes were truly indicative of the period.
So a play about her experience and reactions is a very feminist propaganda slant?? Best go back to every other thing you have ever seen or heard, from the limited point of view of men, because you believe that is neutral and never propaganda.
Elizabeth II was a mechanic and driver during WW II so I wonder how realistic this is. The female officer doesn’t need to be depicted as so dull and masculine.
I'm so glad that I grew up at a time when we only had 3 then later 4 TV channels showing, for the greater part, quality productions like this. Were it not for the BBC and early Channel 4, I wouldn't have been introduced to so much art, music and international cinema at an early age either.
Me too. There were also those late night Open University programmes. And BBC Radio 3 and 4 before they were meant to be more popular. It was a real education.
Now it all depends on the internet and salvaged programmes on UA-cam.
Why don't you turn off your television set and go do something less boring instead... They said..😂
Quite so, but there was some appalling shite back then too: Love Thy Neighbour, Terry And June etc etc. And some of the Plays For Today were quite dry and slow.
It wasn't so long ago when the BBC Worldservice was worth listening to, because of the many various dramatic productions on the different Channels - including 4 and 3.
@@jasondavis8886 Well done mate.
Brilliant piece of writing & Harriet Walter superb!
and so horribly RELEVANT to US politics at this time. Horrid reality reflected in the dialogue here.
And the blatant misogyny and narcissism of the men were portrayed accordingly.
What a superb play. The struggle of women against the patriarchal mindset is very well shown with all the little nuances!
What a lovely surprise to see a very young Brenda Blethyn. A wonderful actress. Now, in a great series ." Vera." Loved this play. Thank goodness times are changing for women .
Didn't they make some great stuff back then! many thanks for this
On top of a riveting play, painfully exacting dialogue and direction, and totally convincing acting, out of nowhere Patricia Routledge presides. It can't get any better, frankly.
I’m really loving these old plays . Reminds me of my mother we liked things like this. I like that there all different subjects and eras . Picking out actors that we know now and how young they were .great writing . There like good books I have to watch another one.
What a wonderfully tense and excruciating play and a star making performance from Harriet Walter.
drives me crazy, indeed. painfully on point even now, how many years later.
some of the men come across as humourless little monsters
Absolutely brilliant and great quality. Thank you for uploading!
Oh the days of the seamed, suspenders-held stockings.
Pat Routlidge can play anypart What an Icon she is. My Mother was 2nd scretary to Lord Lois Mounbatter. My Father always treated it like she was playing grownup and she's come to her snss??? She outranked him But still he didnt reconize her sarifice and War Work
1:05:25
Kathy had more spirit and understanding the all those "men" she came across in the film. What a tragedy she always seemed to them "awkward and difficult and angry"
Or, by the prison officer at the end, "a very silly, silly girl."
I don't like violence, but kind of applauded her kicking that publican where it hurt.
Spot on self defense in my books.
It is a pity she stopped short of claiming self-defence.
Wow, that was really good!
Really good. A wonderful framing of a narrative around inequality.
Brilliant
Anothet excellent play.
Outstanding
I remember this one as a boy
It was hard watching her struggle, nobody understood her. I so wanted something good to happen to make her content, at least for a while.
WHEN HE SAID GALILO I STARTED TO SING GALILIO GALILO GALILO GALILO GALILO FIGARO LET ME GO OH OH OH! IM JUST A POOR BOY NOBODY LOVES ME
Excellent
40:18 That's Penny Smith from GMTV believe it or not.
It says it's Belinda Lang in the credits...
Amazing
I just hope she gets to Bletchley
Her conditioning came from her home life....
her father's superior attitudes and her mother's compliance
and timidity with the husband...
The boyfriend was a carbon copy of her father,
so were all the officers and those in the war effort...
and the pub owner who accussed her wrongly, & those
soldiers in the pub drinking:
I notice in my life, l have met people, good people who
are completely misunderstood.... l don't know on whose
side they are misunderstood their side or other people.
Perhaps most men in the film and the father simply didnt or didnt want to understand an independently minded woman.
26:07. Hyacinth Bucket !
No "candle-light suppers", though
Good looking lady. Yummy
Is that Brenda Blethyn? And Harriet Walter?
Check the credits at the end.
Vera
Similar to the 2014 film of the same name?
And was this about the character in that film played by Keira Knightly..."Joan Clarke"?
Horner done wrong !
Why she being punished for he put her in akward position he should have known better... I'm confused
Today far too many tv 📺📺📺channells showing mostly poor programmes there all really there for the advertising
Less tv 💻💻💻channells means less advertising and better tv 💻💻💻programmes like we had in the earlier days
Less is more ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I've virtually given up watching tv since I got a computer, now I can see more or less anything I want on UA-cam at the time I want to see it. Defund the BBC!
Always a power game, trying to exact the battle of the sexes. Sure there were great women alike that risked life and limb during Wartime, but the real tragedy is having and wanting to be part of it. Who needs plastic medals anyway ? learning to be individual is much more important. The power of the Pen never failed anyone.
Plastic? My Father’s medals were all some kind of metal!
Probably Tin @@velocepeyet
good Lord the prescience of this play for American citizens today . . . it's horrifying.
Curiosity killed the cat, or could have done. She was lucky to have only got imprisonment. I'm surprised she was allowed anywhere near Intelligence with having spent time in Nazi Germany, and a father in the BUF. It clearly had a very feminist propagandist slant, and most of the men are the baddies; but only someone who was there at that time could say how truly it reflected the period. But, apart from those quibbles it was well acted with a realistic historical feel.
I'd say a 'feminist' slant is fair as it's at the crux of the story but 'propagandist' I don't agree with. Of course we weren't there ourselves but I'm sure Ian McEwan researched it well and I'd put good money on Patricia Routledge's speech on 'handling' women in the Services being based on written record. Such attitudes were truly indicative of the period.
So a play about her experience and reactions is a very feminist propaganda slant?? Best go back to every other thing you have ever seen or heard, from the limited point of view of men, because you believe that is neutral and never propaganda.
You're all asleep.
Some people are just determined to be miserable.
Elizabeth II was a mechanic and driver during WW II so I wonder how realistic this is. The female officer doesn’t need to be depicted as so dull and masculine.