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2018 Indian Scout Bobber Trask Intake Install
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2018
- Installing the Trask intake on the Bobber. All in all took about 3-4 hours. Basic hand tools required. Instructions were very good and helpful.
Here are some torque specs you will need.
*tank bolts - 18 ft/lbs
*frame tube through bolt- 35 ft/lbs
*frame tube rear bolts - 35 ft/lbs
*fame tube lower painted bolt - 19 ft/lbs
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Your video helped me tremendously today when I upgraded my air filter! Thanks for the assistance 😉😁 I couldn't smash the subscribe button fast enough.
That’s awesome. Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video, very helpful. If you don’t have a center stand, I used ratchet straps suspended from rafters in my buddy’s garage to lift the front of the bike up, then I used a jack to lift the engine. Ratchet straps kept the bike from tipping over. I’m not handy at all but that worked! Also, the bike makes a lot more noise after the install. Don’t be alarmed!
Most importantly, yes, there seems to be a slight bump in acceleration.
If it works. It was a good idea!
Got my Trask and Dynojet PV3 in the mail today. Thanks for this video. Bout to make my 2021 Bobber scream 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Oh man! Getter done
Where do you tube your carb at?
Hey Jay thanks doing the vids as I reference them for my mods.I did the trask air cleaner added slip exhaust and pcvx dynojet .Noticeable difference. .Also debadging and warbonnet decal clear coat over.keep em coming we do appreciate
James Spencer that’s awesome to hear! Look forward to seeing it. If you post it up on Instagram or something attach me so I can see it. @jay_fast
Awesome vid... Your vids help me with all the normal odds and ends. Now I know how to remove tank and access air filter. 😉😆
Cos127 that’s great to hear! Thanks for the support. I’m glad I could help.
Awesome video man, it’s been very helpful for me!
Harrison Stephens did you end up doing an intake?
Jay....thank you. I did this exact project last Saturday. Your video was very helpful, especially the way you recommended to remove the stock air box. I’m grateful.
I’m glad this worked out for you! How’s the bike sound now?
@@jay_fast You can definitely hear it breathing now. Now I have to figure out this Fuel Moto device to get the new tune downloaded and installed.
@@YouthReachInc it will completely change the bike!
Hi Jay, your great video helped me today to pass through all deinstalation and instation. Just took me a little bit longer. I use Remus exhaust and with Trask air intake not CPU tuning needed so far. I will see.
Vaclav Dostal if you have both an intake and an exhaust. You really should have the bike tuned. A proper tune will have the bike running so much better with a bunch more power.
So glad the video worked out for you! Thanks for checking it out.
Great content bro. Keep them coming. Just picked up my bobber a few days ago!
Jonathan Fantauzzi nice! What colour did you go with?
Thunder black smoke! Got it from the dealer with a few mods. V&H exhaust, air filter, and stage 1 tune. Just need the weather to get better.
Jonathan Fantauzzi boom! Ready to go!
Where about are you located
Jay Fast I’m in chicago!
Jonathan Fantauzzi ya. But more winter for ya. But soon!! I’m excited for ya! You are gonna love it.
Do you like the intake? Do you notice a big difference?
Got yourself a new subscriber :)
GOOSE really appreciate that! I’ll keep the videos coming
Great video. I am planning on installing the trask intake and dean speed slip ons next weekend. Can I ask what jack you are using? I have been looking at a few but don't know if they would be compatible with the scout.
I have a full motorcycle lift now. But at the time it was a motorcycle/arc lift from Canadian tire. I’m sure harbour freight or any other auto parts store would have them. Works well with the scouts as there is no frame rails to worry about. Just lift at the bottom of the motor. It’s a stressed member.
So I accidentally took the bolts off underneath the seat I think it holds the frame and now it shifted. I can’t put the bolts or the seat back on. What can I do?
You can put a Jack underneath the motor and lift or lower slightly to realign the bolt holes. Just be careful not to cross thread. The motor and frame are aluminum.
The motor is what’s considered a stressed member. We don’t have a traditional frame. The motor is part of the frame.
You haven’t wrecked anything.
Did this filter affect the sound of your bike at all? On mine it seems to get extremely loud when going 3/4 to full throttle.
Yes. 100%. You will definitely increase intake noise. The factory intake. A lot of the bulk was built to eliminate that noise from factory.
Do you need to get the bike tunes after you install the new air filter? If so where do you go? Indian wont tune for this
Isn’t the K&N replacement filter just as good for a lot cheaper?
dont know? could be.
Did anyone that did slip ons first notice that their scout was running lean prior to the air box and a tuner being installed?
Did you leave the stock rubber grommet with the adjustable clamp on from your stock airbox??
Arturo Gatti I cant remember. But I feel like I did.
Are these aftermarket or original bar end mirrors? Can find only glossy aftermarket ones :/ great vid as always, here for air intake tho :)
Stock mirrors. Try this website. It’s all stock Indian parts. They have everything.
www.indianpartsnation.com/oemparts/l/ind/5a3a907687a8660eb45eba15/2018-scout-bobber-all-options-n18mta00-mtb00-parts
Good video, thanks
Open Roader 😘
Why would you remove a forced air induction system for this type of filter being used? I would have kept the air box, and installed a K/N air filter..... Just my 2 cents.....,.
S S well. It’s def not forced air. Ram air maybe. Most cars are designed that way. Have a scoop behind a headlight. Or in a fender well. The scoop for the stock air box is behind the rad. So all that hot air after it’s passed through the rad is being picked up by the stock intake. Plus the stock intake has some restrictions in it. Baffling, ect to eliminate intake noise.
For me. It’s the better kit. Plus. That intake noise! 😍
Hey Jay, great video. Does the filter change the sound at all? can you hear any induction noise?
100%. Even with a modified exhaust you can hear it on a heavy pull.
@@jay_fast Appreciate you getting back to me bud!
@@Wildehyde absolutely. Ride safe
Where are u putting the jack to support bike?
I got that flash light
It’s a decent light. Still going strong.
Thanks for the helpful video, now I know what to look for when I tackle this job..after u installed the filter did u have to get the bike tuned? Or does the bike ride fine the way it is..
xbigdaddy77x I bought intake/exhaust/tuner all at once. So I didn’t get much time riding in. I did ride after doing the intake a few times and it seemed fine. But a week later I did the exhaust and the tuner at once. From what I’ve read it seams like you are fine with one mod. Either intake or exhaust and no tune. But not both. If you do run into a lean situation your ecu will trip a code. Talking to a guy on instagram she said he threw a code on his wife’s bobber after a slip on install. Code was for a lean condition. But then if you follow Brandon bicasso. He had slip ons with no issue. I think if you want to mod your bikes power level. Sooner or later you will need a tune.
@@jay_fast I just got a 2019 Indian bobber and it came with a twr (two brother racing) 2 to 1 exhaust with a tier 1 tuner on it (this all came on the bike). I got the bike brand new and only had 243 miles on the bike and already put 6 full tanks of gas and had to go back to the dealership and I and after the service dept manager tried to bs me saying the bike should only get 70 miles to a full tank, due to the curve of the tank and the half gallon of gas that is forward of the fuel pump in the curve....they ended working on it and up putting on the receipt... "tier 1 tuner is not designed to change large increments of fuel map. Flashed unit with stage 1 Indian Map. Tier 1 tuner will fine tune from there." So basically they nevered programmed the computer on the bike correctly and the tuner was just throwing fuel into the motor. Just a heads up I spoke with a Indian service dept in a different city and was told.. that it sounds like the dealership i got it from voided the Indian factory warranty when they put the aftermarket tuner and exhaust on because anything that changes the air gas mixture or exhaust on the bike voids Indian warranty on the drivetrain... have you had any problems or information regarding this?? I ask because I want to go ahead and do my air intake...and I was wondering about the tuner if you or anyone would know if I am going to need to go back to the dealership for it to be programmed for the air intake. Or not, the company tier 1 tuner is advertising saying it doesn't need human mapping put into it that it does it automatically.... self contained....thank you in advance and sorry for the long book for the post.
justin williams hit my up on Instagram DM @jay_fast. We can go more in depth there.
I am no expert. Everything I’ve learnt has either been through research or personal experience.
In my experience. My local dealer has had zero issues with my bike and warrenty. I’ve sent it back for a few leaks and such. I made videos on both those. I modded my bike at 800km. Intake,tune and exhaust. I’ve never had a dealer issue where they wouldn’t warrenty anything.
Secondly. Your bike is still breaking in. Mileage will get better. You should get 100-120 miles to tank all day long.
A tune in its self will not increase mileage. What it may do is correct a fuel curve on a bike that’s running unnecessarily rich. By optimizing the fuel let’s say you pick up 5% fuel economy. Well on a 100mile range 5% is 5 miles on a tank. Hardly noticeable. In my opinion.
Now. The Indian tunes are garbage. It’s a canned tune meant to meet most needs. Thus it’s a very mild tune meant for all bikes. It’s basically adding more fuel because you are able to bring more air in with the intake and expell that air easier with an exhaust.
All the tuner does is allow you to write that tune to your ecu. Not all tuners are the same. I think the best tuner for the scout is the pvcx. It will allow you to actually write the tune directly to the ecu vs just tricking the ecu by modifying input signals from certain sensors like a EJK tuner that has to stay on the bike.
If you truely want the most from your bike. You will want an intake, exhaust and either a custom tune from a local dyno shop or a tune from fuel moto. My preference is a local dyno shop. Assuming they are competent enough. They will tune your bike. To your setup. With gas local to you. At your elevation.
This all maters. All said and done you should see 97hp and 71ft/lbs to the wheel. Give or take a few.
Even fuel moto who has a great reputation tuning the scouts. They are 800ft ish above sea level. This will effect the tube as your air density may be different if you are in higher country.
How do you put the stock seat back on? I’ve been trying for an hr. It does not just snap back on that metal piece.
RedPillFreedom that seems weird. I know the two little tabs on the back of the seat that slip under the rear fender. I’ve had wiring that kinda blocked the path of those tabs before. Make sure that’s clear. Make sure the seat is seated all the way rearward. And it should just be a push down. It’s a ball and socket design.
Unless your the socket part of your seat is damaged?
Do the two at least line up when you go to push it down?
Jay Fast I figured it out. The rubber grommet had come off the seat and gotten stuck on the metal tab. Took me forever to realize it.
RedPillFreedom nice! Glad you figured it out. That’s a new one for me. Ha. Shit. I would have been livid as well!
whats that extra hole from now that the stock intake was removed?
Is the front frame? 🤷just probably for quieting the intake noise
thats whats up! I been thinking of doing it to my scout 60. I already have a freedom performance 2 to 1 exhaust and I was wondering if it's safe to ride maybe 30 miles to the dealer for without a tune?
bjorn villaester loaded question. Yes and no. The bike may or may not ride poorly. The bike will probably suffer from a lean condition and ping. Will probably toss a code. You’d probably be fine if you took it easy. But a motor in a lean condition is just asking for trouble. Be cautious.
And yes. Do the intake!!
Jay Fast I'm definitely going to do it but I'll probably just tow the bike to the dealer lol!
bjorn villaester howd it go at the dealer? Get the tune ok?
@@bjornvillaester7586 yeah how’d it go with the tune etc. how much was it. Any difference in power?
Perfect video. Thank you for explaining each step. Does Trask say you are going to need a tune?
Joe Davis I rode for a bit without a tune. I have already installed the exhaust and since tossed a tune on. Don’t hold me to it but I’ve seen guys run exhaust with no tune. Intake with no tune. But if you run both you need a tune.
With exhaust/intake and tune you will hit 100hp at the wheel. This bone stock was 76hp or something? I have a video of the stock dyno run.
Mine is 2 weeks old and still breaking in. After watching I am definitely going to do both the intake and exhaust. I don't know which will be first.Thanks again
Joe Davis the exhaust video is next. Will edit it shortly and get it up.
Did you get it tuned from a dealer? Or just bought your own tuner?
What kind of tuner are you using? I ordered the power vision cx from dyno jet, going to be running trask slip-ons an a s&s intake.
Brad Smith I am also using the PVCX. I have mine custom tuned at a local (ish) shop. The stock DJ tunes will get you pretty darn close though.
Jay Fast how much power is it layin down now & what was the hp without tweaking the DJ tune?
Brad Smith follow me on instagram @jay_fast
It has all the latest info. I suck at editing so it takes me a bit to get videos out. But sitting at 96hp to the wheel.
Jay Fast dang how much power did u gain after dyno tuning it from the stock dj tune an is that without a exhaust?
Brad Smith I have a video out with the stock dyno run. I believe I was around 76hp. I did the exhaust/intake and DJ tune all at once over a weekend. It dyno‘ at 87ish. Then the custom tune got me to 96ish? I have been on the Indian forums and guys are getting over 100hp. So. We will see what’s next.
How does this intake compare to the Indian performance air intake??
You know. I can’t say from experience. But I would buy this one over the Indian performance one
Does it make much of a difference to the power you get, aside from what it says you get? Do you feel the difference? Worth the cost/hassle?
Photo Biker tough to say. I did everything pretty closely together. I did do a small grocery run after I did the Intake back in December. There is substantially more intake noise. Which I find pleasurable. It’s one of the power triangles. Exhaust gets more air out. Intake gets more air in. And the controller gets more fuel. An intake is definitely the cheapest power adder of the 3. I like to say I feel a difference but can’t say for sure. I 100% feel a difference with all three done! I will say though that a stock bike is very smooth and poise. With the intake,exhaust and tune. It’s a rumbling, vibrating, snarling beast. Not so smooth and poised now.
Sounds good. :-) For me, I think it already has plenty of power. My biggest issue is the ride, not the power. It may be something I can consider down the line, once I get the engine broken in.
My next though for mods would be shocks and suspension, to smooth out the ride a bit. It needs something for the damn potholes and speed ramps around this place.
Photo Biker 100% with you on that one. Really want to get the suspension dialed in to my weight and riding style.
Photo Bike
What do you think is the best way to support the bike without a bike jack?
I’ve seen guys use 2x4’s.
Could also use the Jack that comes with your car.
@@jay_fast I've been planning on doing that. Thanks for the advice, I'm going to try to get it done today!
@@gbC4mpos awesome!
Thanks for this Jay
Did you do it to your bike?
Hello. Great video. Why did you choose this intake?
trevor jarland honestly it was just the best deal I could get on Black Friday 2017.
Did you look into other intakes. Like the warbonnet screaming scout or zipper? Not finding much on those
trevor jarland I did look at them before purchasing the Trask. Being in Canada the international shipping is always an issue. The easiest and cheapest route was to go with Trask from revzilla.
I do quite like the zippers intake. People rate it quite high. Install would be the same as the Trask.
Jay Fast ok thanks. What the gas mileage like? I know your tune will be different from mine but I figured I’d ask
What did you use to support the bike in the middle?
King Gabbz Gabriola I’m not sure if I have the bike/atv lift at the time of this but it was either that or a small jack.
You can leave the bike on the side stand and support with a small jack. Even the small on from your car.
@@jay_fast Okay, thank you very much!
King Gabbz Gabriola no problem
is next on my list, and a PV CX. :p
Frommageface do it. Completely changes the bike.
8:46..... what did you just eat?
Basic_Psychology haha fuck. I don’t know. Probably just biting my nail. Or at least I hope.