So, Dana Sutcliff is the designer. I live in Delaware where this guitar originated. Dana used to to work at this guitar store in Peddler's Village in Christiana, DE( Suburb of Wilmington, DE). Use to see those guitars in that shop before they were a production model. Dana couldnt give them away. As a side note, I believe Dana helped design the Crate Blue Voodoo line of amps as well
Who doesn’t love a good old guitar story?! I actually think it’s a pretty sweet guitar, and I’m glad you got it back and kept it all these years later. It doesn’t have to be the best sounding or playing, but it represents some interesting parts of your life. It’s clearly meant to have a home in your home, even if just for nostalgic purposes and sharing a cool story with people who come to your house.
Yo man, Stev here...I totally remember when you got that thing! Alvarez also had a Dana offset bass and I used a fretless version on the Ockham's Razor recording. I also remember you put an X2N in whatever neon green guitar you had at the time and truth be told, it's why I put an X2N in the bridge of most guitars I buy these days. Also, that gig you mentioned before the Scoop got stolen - was that the Envy gig at The Rock that I played with you?
Speaking of the transitional time that was, all the bands that straddled the "hair band" era and the new era were really great. Jane's Addiction, Queensryche, GNR, The Cult, and others.
I love your review videos along with Mr Bollinger from premier guitar. I just wish I still had my old one or can keep one these days. Very hard this end. Keep up the good work with the videos sir.
Very cool. I did a similar thing and bought a 1992 Ibanez RG560 in candy apple red. I wasn't bothered by grunge, but these types of guitars definitely weren't in style anymore quite soon after we bought them. I've had it for 32 years now and, like you, will never let it go. It's not the guitar I play the most, but I still love it! Interestingly, a friend of mine had a white pearl Warlock!
Thanks for the great video. I actually quite like the sound it produces. Had a look at some of the other models and really love the look of the all black finish with the full maple neck / fretboard. I've always believed the right guitar finds you. And your experience with this one tends to validate that belief. Cheers from the Land Down Under.
While I could imagine that the cantilever might hurt it's capacity to stay in tune, It is still looks way larger than the neck, so probably plenty of strength to remain attached unless trying to hit something hard with it. Even at the smallest, it still looks barely under the size of a 2x4.
I love the Dana's, the Washburn's of the late 80s and a few others like Vester Maniac 2's. Quick edit, also very big on the 80s-90s Fernandes, especially the FGZ line.
I remember going to Front Porch guitars in Bakersfield CA. To see the demo of this guitar. They had one they where giving away. I always wanted one. First one I ever heard with the systaniac system.
It would be cool if the had built the guitar with some kind of metal brace stabilizing that where it could not break. But its different looking and 39 years of playing thats the first I ever seen if that guitar. Yeah I never seen that movie you mentioned. If I did see it, I don't remember it.
Alvarez also had some cool guitars that didn't have the scoop. One model had a Modulus carbon fiber neck on it if I remember correctly. I think it was called The Villian.
Love that axe! I came up in the late 80s / early 90s too, but never lost the metal bug. Do you know if they ever made left-handed variants? If so, I might try and hunt one down!
My first guitar was a Harmony acoustic with action so high my fingers would bleed. I was taught by a Nashville session player for 5 years. During that time my first electric guitar was a Silvertone with a hard case a built in tube amp.I sure wish I still had that. I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
I haven't seen one of those in years! I first saw one in a an issue of guitar player magazine around 92, then was fortunate to see 2 in a local music store. I thought it was the coolest thing at the time. It looked so radical and different than any guitar out there. Unfortunately I couldn't afford one and had to settle for a pawnshop special SG copy. Thanks for showing this lost and unusual piece of guitar history Phil.
This touched so close to home! Had two sweet Ibanez RG's I had sold twice and managed to get back years later. Sadly I had to sell 23 guitars out of my collection and my jcm900 a few years ago, total crusher. Thankfully I've still got my '86 PRS and Charvel model 1, the model 1 has a bill Lawrence in it 🤘 Love the dana you have!!
My "oldest" guitar is a 92 China Red B.C. Rich Warlock Platinum. I got it in 93. I had a kohler (not to be confused with the way more famous kahler, or whatever they're called) floyd rose added to it and swapped the bridge pickup out for the D'marzio pickup that George Lynch (And I think Steve Via) were pugging in the old Guitar for the Practicing Musician, and other magazines that are all just Guitar World now. Just thought it was funny that we both have red 92 crazy shaped guitars and started playing at the same time.
I started playing in '85 and I distinctly remember seeing a Dana Scoop u Guitar Player magazine in '92. I've always thought t looked incredibly cool. I've also always wondered why Alvarez and other acoustic brands (I remember Martin and Takamine) started selling electrics back then. Thanks for the explanation.
9:57 Value: pretty comparable with that of an Ibanez EX370FM (also made in Korea). Not as valuable as a Japanese RG550 or 570 from that era, let alone a Radius or Saber. It sounds surprisingly good, despite the missing neck pickup.
I saw one of these when they were new, and the store I was at was having a promotional event that day, so they were really pushing it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't buy one, either lol. There was something about that hole being too close to the neck that screamed "gimmick, " and I didn't expect them to be around that long - I was right. There's a reason why certain body types stick around as long as they do - and some fade away.
Always wanted one as a teen in the mid 90s. The scoop was just cool, but i did not want to learn string changes on locking trems! The other guitar i thought was too cool, was the peavey vandenberg. And i was only interested in typical teen music of the time, grunge punk and alternative. Either of those guitars though had something cool about them!
So Lita Ford herself came out to my podunk town in Manteca, CA in like 1993 to promote and hold a little head cutting competition at Janis Music to win one of these sweet babies lol. I entered and lost, but I was only 16 or something haha. So close!
"he's never going to watch this anyway." As soon as he utters those words, somewhere on the other side of town someone is telling "God Damnit! I knew he was full of it."😂 It sounds pretty much like every 80s shred guitars with HO pickups. Actually you could use the guitar bows that are typically only useable on acoustic because you have to saw the bow up and down, perpendicular to the strings. With the scoop you could pull it off. I always thought the idea of a Floyd Rose equipped super strat with a 24¾" scale would be awesome, then i bought an old Kramer Nightswan… i just found them too slack, even with heavier strings. That said my problem with the Kramer was the really narrow nut and fretboard. I started playing right around the same time: 88 or 89, and yes i always thought the Allen wrenches on the back of the headstock were bad ass.
acoustic guitars have ran more new players away from guitar than anything else. Kid hears rock band thinks "I wanna do that!" Parents thought "welp, better get him a country and western guitar"
I remember those. I always thought they were ugly & stupid but I’ve never been a fan of pointy guitars or the “hair metal” looking designs of the time. I guess I was just more into grunge & blues at the time so the last thing I ever wanted was anything with a Floyd Rose and all that locking nut stuff.
I tried a couple in 1992/3. The curly maple one looked great but played like trash, the other one I tried was a black carbon or carbon fibre version and that is still one of the best guitars I've ever played. Didn't buy either as I just couldn't live with the look :)
Hey Phil, now you’re going to have to show us a pic of young Phil with hair!
I agree!
The flat bottom, while somewhat odd looking, is genius.
like the 2 strap buttons on the bottom of the Ampeg Dan Armstrong!
So, Dana Sutcliff is the designer. I live in Delaware where this guitar originated. Dana used to to work at this guitar store in Peddler's Village in Christiana, DE( Suburb of Wilmington, DE). Use to see those guitars in that shop before they were a production model. Dana couldnt give them away. As a side note, I believe Dana helped design the Crate Blue Voodoo line of amps as well
Who doesn’t love a good old guitar story?! I actually think it’s a pretty sweet guitar, and I’m glad you got it back and kept it all these years later. It doesn’t have to be the best sounding or playing, but it represents some interesting parts of your life. It’s clearly meant to have a home in your home, even if just for nostalgic purposes and sharing a cool story with people who come to your house.
Dana worked for St. Louis Music and he was our Ampeg rep in LA in the 90’s. He was the best.
Yo man, Stev here...I totally remember when you got that thing! Alvarez also had a Dana offset bass and I used a fretless version on the Ockham's Razor recording. I also remember you put an X2N in whatever neon green guitar you had at the time and truth be told, it's why I put an X2N in the bridge of most guitars I buy these days. Also, that gig you mentioned before the Scoop got stolen - was that the Envy gig at The Rock that I played with you?
Ah the Dana Scoop. Such sweet memories of the 80s silliness (even though this was made in the 90s - Alvarez showed up late for the hair metal era).
And a crate amp! Yeah! The guitar shop in my hometown that had those guitars had a bunch of crate amps. Those were the days
In the Why Do You Think They Call It Dope
music video by Love Hate 1990 the guitarist is using a black one.
Cool looking guitar. Love when manufactures think outside the box and not stuck in same shapes of the guitar.
Speaking of the transitional time that was, all the bands that straddled the "hair band" era and the new era were really great. Jane's Addiction, Queensryche, GNR, The Cult, and others.
I'd forgotten about those. Nice to see one again after all this time.
When hip hop started becoming big in the 90s, Phil sold the guitar and got a drum machine and briefly had a career as a street poet
I love your review videos along with Mr Bollinger from premier guitar. I just wish I still had my old one or can keep one these days. Very hard this end. Keep up the good work with the videos sir.
I always liked these Dana Scoop models. Never owned one but played one that a buddy of mine had
That was so much fun Phillip. Thanks for sharing this.
Very cool. I did a similar thing and bought a 1992 Ibanez RG560 in candy apple red. I wasn't bothered by grunge, but these types of guitars definitely weren't in style anymore quite soon after we bought them. I've had it for 32 years now and, like you, will never let it go. It's not the guitar I play the most, but I still love it!
Interestingly, a friend of mine had a white pearl Warlock!
Love it. I grew up wanting a black BC Ritch and Blackies flaming cod piece. Never apologize for owning that killer guitar.
Marc Ferrari ( Keel) was the guy in Wayne's World with that guitar
Thanks for the great video. I actually quite like the sound it produces. Had a look at some of the other models and really love the look of the all black finish with the full maple neck / fretboard. I've always believed the right guitar finds you. And your experience with this one tends to validate that belief. Cheers from the Land Down Under.
While I could imagine that the cantilever might hurt it's capacity to stay in tune, It is still looks way larger than the neck, so probably plenty of strength to remain attached unless trying to hit something hard with it. Even at the smallest, it still looks barely under the size of a 2x4.
The problem is the lack of continuity of the wood grain. It's way weaker than the neck for that reason.
It really helps if you look at the camera like you're talking to us instead of staring down at the monitor
I love the Dana's, the Washburn's of the late 80s and a few others like Vester Maniac 2's. Quick edit, also very big on the 80s-90s Fernandes, especially the FGZ line.
Ouch...A few of my newest guitars were acquired in the early 90s!
That color red looks AMAZING!! 😍
Dana Sutcliffe is a great guy and a hell of a luthier.
I owned so many different warlocks when i was younger that in my hometown they just call em jakes.
I actually thought the Dana scoop was a cool idea, but bought an Ovation GCA acoustic as a starter guitar.
For all that is worth I think that thing is kinda cool. Especialy with that origin story.
I remember going to Front Porch guitars in Bakersfield CA. To see the demo of this guitar. They had one they where giving away. I always wanted one. First one I ever heard with the systaniac system.
It would be cool if the had built the guitar with some kind of metal brace stabilizing that where it could not break. But its different looking and 39 years of playing thats the first I ever seen if that guitar. Yeah I never seen that movie you mentioned. If I did see it, I don't remember it.
Nice those X2N are bad ass I have a couple in my guitars. That shape except for the scoop looks like a Peavey Vandenberg.
Alvarez also had some cool guitars that didn't have the scoop. One model had a Modulus carbon fiber neck on it if I remember correctly. I think it was called The Villian.
Our local Craigslist had a white one of these for sale for quite a while. It was way overpriced.
I’ve been playing since 1985 and I still have never owned an acoustic guitar. Except for a few cigar box guitars, but that doesn’t count.
Love that axe! I came up in the late 80s / early 90s too, but never lost the metal bug. Do you know if they ever made left-handed variants? If so, I might try and hunt one down!
I remember always thinking they can't possibly be stable. Always pictured jamming and the neck snapping off.
I always wanted one with a carbon neck.
My first guitar was a Harmony acoustic with action so high my fingers would bleed. I was taught by a Nashville session player for 5 years. During that time my first electric guitar was a Silvertone with a hard case a built in tube amp.I sure wish I still had that. I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
The case had an amp inside...?
Cool...
I'm sure it sounded boxy...😅
Great story. Thankyou for sharing.
I haven't seen one of those in years! I first saw one in a an issue of guitar player magazine around 92, then was fortunate to see 2 in a local music store. I thought it was the coolest thing at the time. It looked so radical and different than any guitar out there. Unfortunately I couldn't afford one and had to settle for a pawnshop special SG copy. Thanks for showing this lost and unusual piece of guitar history Phil.
This woulda been a cool idea if the made a means of attachment, for neck pickup swapping in that area.
This touched so close to home! Had two sweet Ibanez RG's I had sold twice and managed to get back years later. Sadly I had to sell 23 guitars out of my collection and my jcm900 a few years ago, total crusher. Thankfully I've still got my '86 PRS and Charvel model 1, the model 1 has a bill Lawrence in it 🤘
Love the dana you have!!
Phil got so tickled he went crosseyed
I think the headstock is interesting. I 🤔 the guitar is cool especially since its your first.
My "oldest" guitar is a 92 China Red B.C. Rich Warlock Platinum. I got it in 93. I had a kohler (not to be confused with the way more famous kahler, or whatever they're called) floyd rose added to it and swapped the bridge pickup out for the D'marzio pickup that George Lynch (And I think Steve Via) were pugging in the old Guitar for the Practicing Musician, and other magazines that are all just Guitar World now. Just thought it was funny that we both have red 92 crazy shaped guitars and started playing at the same time.
I remember those! Yeah, they had some unique guitars in the late 80's
Bland sound but eye catching.
I started playing in '85 and I distinctly remember seeing a Dana Scoop u Guitar Player magazine in '92. I've always thought t looked incredibly cool. I've also always wondered why Alvarez and other acoustic brands (I remember Martin and Takamine) started selling electrics back then. Thanks for the explanation.
My first electric was a '73 Ovation Breadwinner Deacon...I'd love to see you demo one!! Those Alvarez's are pretty cool!
I love the shape so much since I saw it in a magazine ad in 1992 that I own three originals and made a replica myself.
Well tbh I didn’t hate the way it sounds. Maybe kinda muted, not to bright and I’m listening through my earphones but it’s not terrible.
Lots to unpack in the first 40 seconds 😂🎸
Friend of mine had a black one in like 94. Cool.
I had a stunning Alvarez satin finish classical. Beautiful guitar. I actually cant remember what happened to it 😂
9:57 Value: pretty comparable with that of an Ibanez EX370FM (also made in Korea). Not as valuable as a Japanese RG550 or 570 from that era, let alone a Radius or Saber.
It sounds surprisingly good, despite the missing neck pickup.
Animal House was a classic and that axe is awesome.
That was awesome.
Fantastic guitar 👍👍
I saw one of these when they were new, and the store I was at was having a promotional event that day, so they were really pushing it. I didn't hate it, but I didn't buy one, either lol. There was something about that hole being too close to the neck that screamed "gimmick, " and I didn't expect them to be around that long - I was right. There's a reason why certain body types stick around as long as they do - and some fade away.
11:22 “A little aggressive?” X2N = AGGRESSIVE!!!!
I love those! Look for the see thru white with the ash body.
Always wanted one as a teen in the mid 90s. The scoop was just cool, but i did not want to learn string changes on locking trems!
The other guitar i thought was too cool, was the peavey vandenberg. And i was only interested in typical teen music of the time, grunge punk and alternative. Either of those guitars though had something cool about them!
I think it's awesome as hell.
So Lita Ford herself came out to my podunk town in Manteca, CA in like 1993 to promote and hold a little head cutting competition at Janis Music to win one of these sweet babies lol. I entered and lost, but I was only 16 or something haha. So close!
Itz got Mojo Phil! Thankz
very interesting guitar.👍👍👍
These were wild!
Sweet ride!
"he's never going to watch this anyway." As soon as he utters those words, somewhere on the other side of town someone is telling "God Damnit! I knew he was full of it."😂 It sounds pretty much like every 80s shred guitars with HO pickups. Actually you could use the guitar bows that are typically only useable on acoustic because you have to saw the bow up and down, perpendicular to the strings. With the scoop you could pull it off. I always thought the idea of a Floyd Rose equipped super strat with a 24¾" scale would be awesome, then i bought an old Kramer Nightswan… i just found them too slack, even with heavier strings. That said my problem with the Kramer was the really narrow nut and fretboard.
I started playing right around the same time: 88 or 89, and yes i always thought the Allen wrenches on the back of the headstock were bad ass.
I played a white Scoop during my first ever show.
As a 14 year old in '83, I wanted the Guild x79. Check it out.
Memories are the best
I've always wanted a Dana Scoop.
Damn! I remember those. So weird..
Wow. You put that guitar through too much and it still looks great 🙂
Maybe the next Harley Benton project? I like it! 😜
I always thought it was a cool design.
That is an awesome guitar! Yes I love outlandish silly vibrant shredder guitars. To cool
It looks like it just wants to be broken
My best friend has a gold hardware sunburst scoop
7:15 Kind of a Klingon JEM.
i want one
Great Story😊
acoustic guitars have ran more new players away from guitar than anything else.
Kid hears rock band thinks "I wanna do that!"
Parents thought "welp, better get him a country and western guitar"
Everyone should own a dumb guitar just for the memories. 😊
Long live the Scoop
Viva El Scoop
He got his in 95
What the..........
I had that model 😊
I remember those. I always thought they were ugly & stupid but I’ve never been a fan of pointy guitars or the “hair metal” looking designs of the time. I guess I was just more into grunge & blues at the time so the last thing I ever wanted was anything with a Floyd Rose and all that locking nut stuff.
I always thought the Dana Scoop was cool looking.
I just inherited enough money to buy a les paul studio.
but you invested in an out door movie projector because you're going to start a drive in movie theater
I tried a couple in 1992/3. The curly maple one looked great but played like trash, the other one I tried was a black carbon or carbon fibre version and that is still one of the best guitars I've ever played. Didn't buy either as I just couldn't live with the look :)
,,,,,remember these in music stores,,,all colors,in a line,...400 dollars,,,..in magazines,,,fad that faded,...
wait, you don't smash acoustic guitars on site? i been doing it all wrong?
didn't Trevor Rabin appear with one in a few videos?
Yep. That is a weirdo
That thing is stupid…I want one
Very airy sounding neck pickup, sorry I had to…🤭🤣👏