I think it helps to think about these things in terms of contemplating the divine economy of salvation. That past obviously had hardly conformed to the will of God. But it has taken time for Christ to come into the world to tell us what God's will really is. Until now, as this conversation goes, it looks like that indeed things are complicated. Are we trying to think like God? Surely, we can never do that. For me, we have to entrust the final judgment to God. For now, we need to succumb to the Magisterium of the Church, which is admittedly hard to subscribe to due to difficult conditions and circumstances that render unclear what objective moral decisions might be held. To me, we need to more inclined to love in the interest of the "concerned party". In complicated medical cases, the expert doctor must be consulted without compromising the teaching of love of Christ through the Church.
Sounds very complicated. Is not a simple principle do not intentionally kill and in situations of intolerable pain that double effect approach should be applied if necessary i.e. pain-killing medication should be given even if there is a chance that the patient might die from it presupposing that the patient is terminally ill and no alternative medication is available. and he /she is asking to be relieved from intolerable pain and near death? Any form of intentional killing of innocent persons is murder. Appreciate your more nuanced and sensitive presentation of the end of life challenges.
I work in an assisted living facility. 50 percent are Catholic. Few families ask for a priest for their dying loved one. I think it is ignorance. This efficacious tradition needs to be retaught...lt is a matter of eternal salvation.
Ill have to vouch that physicians sometimes have no clinical bed side manner. And most arent Catholic. Most are in the atheist category. Ive seen this in my parents careers and mine.
If you don’t object to use the term “quality of life” you don’t know where the battle is fought and you’re already loosing mate. It’s a term used to propagandise a position in the mind of the public and accepting the term means loosing. Pro-Life redefined the terms to win. Do the same. Be more aggressive.
I agree it's a propaganda term. But at the same time does seem to articulate at least in a functionality and materialism form the way we experience comparing good lives to bad lives
I think it helps to think about these things in terms of contemplating the divine economy of salvation. That past obviously had hardly conformed to the will of God. But it has taken time for Christ to come into the world to tell us what God's will really is. Until now, as this conversation goes, it looks like that indeed things are complicated. Are we trying to think like God? Surely, we can never do that. For me, we have to entrust the final judgment to God. For now, we need to succumb to the Magisterium of the Church, which is admittedly hard to subscribe to due to difficult conditions and circumstances that render unclear what objective moral decisions might be held. To me, we need to more inclined to love in the interest of the "concerned party". In complicated medical cases, the expert doctor must be consulted without compromising the teaching of love of Christ through the Church.
Sounds very complicated. Is not a simple principle do not intentionally kill and in situations of intolerable pain that double effect approach should be applied if necessary i.e. pain-killing medication should be given even if there is a chance that the patient might die from it presupposing that the patient is terminally ill and no alternative medication is available. and he /she is asking to be relieved from intolerable pain and near death?
Any form of intentional killing of innocent persons is murder.
Appreciate your more nuanced and sensitive presentation of the end of life challenges.
I work in an assisted living facility. 50 percent are Catholic. Few families ask for a priest for their dying loved one. I think it is ignorance. This efficacious tradition needs to be retaught...lt is a matter of eternal salvation.
Ill have to vouch that physicians sometimes have no clinical bed side manner. And most arent Catholic. Most are in the atheist category. Ive seen this in my parents careers and mine.
If you don’t object to use the term “quality of life” you don’t know where the battle is fought and you’re already loosing mate.
It’s a term used to propagandise a position in the mind of the public and accepting the term means loosing.
Pro-Life redefined the terms to win. Do the same. Be more aggressive.
I agree it's a propaganda term. But at the same time does seem to articulate at least in a functionality and materialism form the way we experience comparing good lives to bad lives